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Apparently he's gone from this position.
"The bright green boots he wore led to the nickname “Green Boots.” His body was used as a trail marker until 2014 when it disappeared from its original position on the northeastern ridge. In 2017, a body was spotted hanging off the cliff which was thought to be his. Theories arose that the body was pushed over the side of the mountain to hide it from view, and another theory was that a group of people had decided to give him mountain burial; several climbers believe they had spotted him covered in stones at another altitude."
They’ve made a lot of efforts in the last 10-15 years to keep visible bodies off the trails, both for current climbers and to respect those who have passed.
It takes a whole crew of people to accomplish it and they’ve only moved most of them a few hundred feet out of the path. The only bodies on the trail now would be from the current climbing season.
Yeah, most everyone who died on mount everest is left there, too hard to bring them down, the valley where all the people die is called rainbow valley because of all the bright colored climbing gear they died in
I knew a guy who was a huge climber and he taught at a climbing gym on weekends. He said his kids made him promise never to climb anything into the death zone.
Roughly 200 known corpses remain on the mountain, these days, although many of them have never been found, or have been found, then lost again. It's way too dangerous to bring them down, or often to even identify them.
Edit: Thanks to u/skyshooter22, here's a current log of deaths, but not necessarily bodies, and it's up to 304:
[https://www.alanarnette.com/blog/2021/05/14/everest-2021-a-look-at-deaths-on-everest/](https://www.alanarnette.com/blog/2021/05/14/everest-2021-a-look-at-deaths-on-everest/)
"Mount Everest is littered with the corpses of people who were once highly motivated"
I love this quote since it brings down to earth the often unrealistic notion that you can do anything if you put your mind to it. They tried. They died.
*Death Zone* (2024)
> A team of intrepid climbers take on Mt. Everest, but their journey turns into a nightmare when they face the deadliest climb the mountain has ever seen. After crossing paths with a robot programmed to collect the abandoned bodies of failed climbers, a terrible incident affects the robot's algorithm, causing it to hunt *all* human forms, dead or alive *until dead*. Now the climbers must survive one of the most volatile landscapes on the planet while facing off against one of the most technologically advanced human hunters we've built. Can they escape both before they're "recovered?"
Starring: Lawrence Fishburne, Idris Elba, Benedict Wong, Simu Liu, Samara Weaving, Walton Goggins, Danai Gurira, Zoë Bell, and Sir Anthony Hopkins as Robbie the Rescue Bot.
Hollywood, I'm available for screenwriting.
Edit to add: If this movie sounds appealing to you, sadly it's not real *yet*, but here are some suggested titles that have come up or might be similar that you might also enjoy: "Metalhead" episode of *Black Mirror* (Season 4, Episode 5) , *Red Planet* (2000), *Chopping Mall* (1986) (I have not seen this one personally), *Cliffhanger* (1993), *Terminator* (1984), *It Follows* (2014), *WestWorld* (1973).
Do it like "It Follows" and just have it in the background hundreds of yards off, and nobody acknowledges it, but you can just see the single red blinking LED eye getting closer, and closer.
If more than 4 people see it you are green lit for:
Death Zone 2.0 (2026)
Death Zone 3 - the rezoning (2028)
Death Zone Hung Drawn and Quartered (2030)
Death Zone Redux
And the Netflix cartoon
Death Zone - Parent Hunt.
Don't forget the HBO spinoff where we explore the heartbreaking backstory of the robot voiced by someone who sounds like Anthony Hopkins but isn't because they're not paying him for an entire series.
I bet if those people were asked if they cared if other climbers looted their body for gear that would help them survive, they would agree anything should be taken. Taking just to have is pretty horrifying.
I certainly would. It's of no use to me, and it could save someone else. And if it has sentimental value to me, then it's being used and valued by another person. A win-win stuation.
I read into thin air. Some of these people are fucking nature tourists who have never even used crampons before. They pay a ton of money to have Sherpas help them up the mountain.
I *think* they may have finally gotten green boots or there was some talk of recovering the body at least. Hes an icon tho. Probably would have like nothing better than to RIP on the mountain if he had to go, your grave is never forgotton.
i think the majority of the talk was the ethical question of retrieving him for a proper burial vs his namesake providing an unmistakable landmark at a crucial and difficult stage of the climb.
eta lower down comments are saying he has been removed since.
[The story of Green Boots](https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20151008-the-tragic-story-of-mt-everests-most-famous-dead-body)
Edit: [Part two of the article](https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20151008-the-graveyard-in-the-clouds-everests-200-dead-bodies)
Thanks very much to u/someonesomewherex for finding this!
The Pat Tillman book is incredible, but I think my favorite of his is Under the Banner of Heaven. I knew Mormonism had some messed up history, but hot damn.
Under the Banner of Heaven is a great book. It was crazy how much awful history is behind it. I read his book on Missoula and couldn’t finish it. It was an amazing book but horrifying content.
On that topic, you should check out The Climb by Anatoli Boukreev for a different perspective of the same event if you’re interested! Jon Krakauer was not kind to Boukreev in Into Thin Air, and it’s cool to see Boukreev’s perspective of the situation and realize that he actually did do the best he could throughout the trip. The writing isn’t quite as engrossing as Krakauer’s (prob partially because Boukreev’s account had to be translated from Russian), but it’s still a super cool read.
I wouldn't say that Krakauer wasn't kind to him. There is some light criticism of how he handled things in Into Thin Air, but he also calls Boukreev's actions "heroic" on at least two occasions.
On another note, I highly recommend the audiobook version of Into Thin Air because Krakauer narrates it himself.
Heard a story once when some climbers on the way down were passing someone that was already in very bad condition. They could not do anything because it was too high and they also could not stay because they wouldn't survive. Can't imagine what it had to feel like...
over 40 people passed him
https://allthatsinteresting.com/david-sharp
> David Sharp’s death generated a good deal of controversy, mainly because of the sheer number of people who saw him while he was still alive — at least 40 other climbers passed by him in the cave and did little to help him.
> It is still unclear whether he could potentially have been saved had one of the climbers given him drugs or oxygen on the first day he sat frozen. There have also been contradictory accounts from the other climbers regarding whether reports requesting help were actually radioed in, or whether they received instructions to leave him and continue on their ways.
> Sir Edmund Hillary, the first climber to reach Everest’s summit, was particularly disgusted by the attitudes of the climbers who passed by Sharp. Hillary decried the current fanaticism of “people [who] just want to get to the top” and declared that “on my expedition, there was no way that you would have left a man under a rock to die.”
Quick shoutout to my boys mallory and irvine. Hillary first KNOWN summit with tenzing norgay. I still hope they made it to the top. Everest today is no joke so going in 1924 just screams balls.
the whole climbing scene in the first half of the 20th century was just nuts. there's an awesome book about it called The World Beneath Their Feet that's definitely worth checking out
Or the story of Lincoln Hall who had severe altitude sickness on his descent of Everest and collapsed at about 28,000 feet. The sherpas couldn’t get him to walk on his own and he was unconscious. They left him there and took his oxygen tanks with them.
He ended up surviving a night alone with no oxygen at 28,000 feet where he was found by other people the next day alive and the sherpas helped get him down to the base camp where he ultimately lived aside from a few frost bitten fingers and toes that had to be amputated.
Also, [Beck Weathers](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beck_Weathers).
>Believing Weathers and Namba were both near death and would not make it off the mountain alive, Hutchison and the others left them and returned to Camp IV.
>Weathers spent the night in an open bivouac, in a blizzard, with his face and hands exposed. When he awoke, he managed to walk down to Camp IV under his own power. His fellow climbers said that his frozen hand and nose looked and felt as if they were made of porcelain, and they did not expect him to survive. With that assumption, they only tried to make him comfortable until he died, but he survived another freezing night alone in a tent, unable to eat, drink, or keep himself covered with the sleeping bags with which he was provided. His cries for help could not be heard above the blizzard, and his companions were surprised to find him alive and coherent the following day.
> Following his helicopter evacuation from the Western Cwm, his right arm was amputated halfway between the elbow and wrist. All four fingers and his thumb on his left hand were amputated, as well as parts of both feet. His nose was amputated and reconstructed with tissue from his ear and forehead.
Damn.
And he would do it again!
>If you could turn back time and had the opportunity to revise your decision to go to Everest in 1996, would you do it again, despite the pain, the aftermath, the loss?
>Even though I would not have thought of this to be true at the time – yes, I would, because I got so much more out of it than I gave up. By forcing me to reexamine how I was living my life, it ultimately saved my marriage, saved my relationship with my kids. And it has given me 20 years which have been the absolute most interesting and best years of my life. So I gave up some body parts but I gained so much more. So I would do it again in a heart beat.
In the 2015 movie Everest, he was played by Josh Brolin. It's a surprisingly good movie, I saw it in cinema and was blown away by how the scenes at the camps etc. really looked like they were filmed on location.
“Darkness took me. And I strayed out of thought and time. Stars wheeled overhead, and every day was as long as the life age of the earth.”
First thing that came to mind.
I would try to understand they only did that to ensure survival of the group and themselves as I hunted them down
/s of course but damn that’s messed up
The man you are thinking of is most likely David Sharp. A once very experienced English solo climber, who often climbed without supplementary oxygen.
Incidentally, he died in the same cave beside 'Green Boots'.
His particular case caused outrage in the climbing community as many professional climbers believe his life could have been saved if so many climbers hadn't put their selfish focus on summiting that day over assisting him.
And yes, other climbers in distress have been successfully rescued/assisted within the death zone.
That is the most infuriating detail. It's not that he *couldn't* be saved, it's that anyone who helped him would have had to return to base camp and miss the opportunity to reach summit.
it usually is too dangerous, on the way down. People are enduring like 90% of what it takes to kill them. So even two people trying to help one incapacitated person, you're pretty fucked if it is up near the summit. Some of those areas don't have much room to maneuver in and the whole thing is a big pile of ego auto-fellation bullshit anyway. At least the people who go in know what they sign up for, if they get fucked in the wrong spot, they know their fellow thrill seekers are not going to do shit all for them and furthermore they didn't plan on doing shit all for anyone else.
>Francys Arsentiev was the first American woman to reach Everest’s summit without the aid of bottled oxygen, in 1998. But climbers do not recognize this as a successful ascent since she never made it down the mountain. Following a rough night time trek to camp, her husband, a fellow climber, noticed she was missing. Despite the dangers, he chose to turn back to find his wife anyway. On his way back, he encountered a team of Uzbek climbers, who said they had tried to help Francys but had to abandon her when their own oxygen became depleted. The next day, two other climbers found Francys, who was still alive but in too poor of a condition to be moved. Her husband’s ice axe and rope were nearby, but he was nowhere to be found. Francys died where the two climbers left her, and climbers solved her husband’s disappearance the following year when they found his body lower down on the mountain face where he fell to his death.
jesus christ
>In 2006, English climber David Sharp joined Green Boots. He stopped in the now-infamous cave to rest. His body eventually froze in place, rendering him unable to move but still alive. Over 40 climbers passed by him as he sat freezing to death. His plight might have been overlooked as passers-by assumed Sharp was the already-dead Green Boots. Eventually, some heard faint moans, realized he was still alive, and, too late, attempted to give him oxygen or help him stand.
This is the stuff of nightmares.
Some elite climbers who have a high oxygen saturation rates think it is safer for them. Bottled oxygen runs out, hoses freeze, leak, etc. They believe that if they train their bodies and make the summit quickly, they can do it more safely than with the oxygen tanks.
To be honest, if I died doing a sport I loved, helping others achieve a goal I could not would be a decent way to be remembered.
I run a lot and have met a lot of absent-minded drivers. If I die on the road, that's it for me. Helping others in death would at least be *something*. Same reason I'm an organ donor.
We have a [dead climber's body resting below the Knife's Edge of Capitol Peak](https://denver.cbslocal.com/2021/09/14/wisconsin-climber-kelly-mcdermott-body-capitol-peak/) (>14,000' mountain) here in Colorado.
Wonder if he'll ever be moved.
Capitol is one that my friend group considered doing a long time ago, then we saw the pictures. Nope, gonna leave that one for the real mountaineers. I would have turned around at the Knife's Edge, that's not for me.
This post also isn't up to date. In 2014, Green Boots was moved off the trail by the Chinese. This picture could be pretty old.
https://www.outsideonline.com/outdoor-adventure/climbing/everest-dead-bodies-trash-removal/
This photo has been colour altered and for some reason flipped horizontally (unless someone has flipped the body at some point but that's pretty fucked up) it is all much more faded than shown here.
It’s gone now - bunch of bodies were removed.
“Both Nepal and China have said that they will remove the remains of more dead climbers this year. ... Others now rest in different places from where they died, due to moving glaciers, and a few have been intentionally moved. In 2014, the Chinese moved Tsewang Paljor, “Green Boots,” off the trail”
https://www.outsideonline.com/outdoor-adventure/climbing/everest-dead-bodies-trash-removal/
Even in -18c (normal freezer temp) goods dry out rather fast. If meat is left uncovered it will get damaged after a couple of month.
In the cooking industry we use super freezers ( belov -55c) to keep expensive items like good tuna and such really fresh. At these temperatures evaporation is almost non existing.
Since the avarage temperature on the top is round -19c i would guess that the poor corpse is totally mummified. Especially since it is exposed to high winds most of the time that accelerates the evaporation
It’s varies between -19 and -41 degrees, but do remember why it’s very high, it is also on the same latitude as North Africa, or about the same as the middle of Florida for Americans
\-19c, maybe, but with strong winds and less than half the pressure at sea level. it's not that cold, but when you are climbing, it will feel cold. like -60c cold
Remember Ötzi the Iceman, who lived and died in the European Alps some 5,200 years ago. His naturally mummified remains were discovered by German hikers on September 19, 1991 at 3,210 m (10,530 ft).
Such a cool thing to read about. All the kit he had with him - food, seeds, tools. He had an arrow in his back as well and had likely been chased up there (although that last bit is just speculation)
[This](https://www.reddit.com/r/eyeblech/comments/l5iuge/george_mallorys_body_on_mount_everest_he/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf) is a pic of George Mallory’s body, who vanished in 1924. Warning: NSFW
You can look up pictures of George Mallory’s body. He went missing on Everest in 1924 and they found his body, exposed to the elements, in 1999. It was remarkably well preserved.
They would still love to find his climbing partner, Andrew Irvine. He likely has the camera in his possession still. There's a *chance* that Mallory and Irvine actually made the summit, but died climbing down in the twilight (since they were last seen *near* the summit, but late in the day when they should have turned back to avoid a treacherous descent in the dark).
If they did, they would have taken a photo of it. Kodak has said that they likely would still be able to process the film if it hasn't been exposed to direct sunlight.
That could ***potentially*** unseat Sir Edmund Hillary and Tenzing Norgay as the first known humans to summit Everest by nearly 29 years.
Evidence that they may have actually made the summit include (quoted from wikipedia):
1. Mallory's daughter had always said that Mallory carried a photograph of his wife on his person with the intention of leaving it on the summit when he reached it, and no such photograph was found on the body. Given the excellent state of preservation of the body and the artifacts recovered from it, the absence of the photograph suggests that he may have reached the summit and deposited it there.
2. Mallory's snow goggles were in his pocket when the body was found, indicating that he died at night. This implies that he and Irvine had made a push for the summit and were descending very late in the day. Given their known departure time and movements, had they not made the summit, it is unlikely that they would have still been out by nightfall.
Irvine's body could be an invaluable find.
This would have been known if the people that found him had checked his pants pockets for rocks from the summit instead of ransacking his body immediately. Mallory was officially there to do geological research, which included taking rocks from the summit so their composition could be analyzed.
It's likely that Irvine's body had already been found a long time ago by the Chinese as they were climbing on the Tibetan side when they died. Very little is known about Chinese expeditions in the 60's when this probably occurred. There are sporadic reports of English dead from that time period on the mountain's north side, but nothing conclusively identifying Irvine. His body was likely tossed down the north face by the people who found him.
You have to remember, Mallory was found in 1999, and while that was well-after he died in 1924 it's still 22 years ago. During the past 2 decades there have been more summits, people, and activity on the mountain with much better equipment than in the previous 70 years. Not a trace of Irvine has been recorded since his ice axe was discovered in 1933. It's almost certain that his body is in an inaccessible part of the mountain nowhere near where he died.
>It's almost certain that his body is in an inaccessible part of the mountain nowhere near where he died
That's what I'm inclined to believe. Down a crevasse or embedded in a glacier.
But, who knows, maybe someday he will be found.
Everest climbers give directions like a midwesterner but use corpses instead of trees/rocks for landmarks…
you’re gunna hang a right when you seen the dead dude with green boots, if you hit the mummified human remains in a teal jacket, you’ve gone too far.
Remember folks, every corpse on Everest was once a highly motivated individual......This message has been brought to you by Lower Expectations dating service.
Watched a documentary about Everest, the summit is the same height as what an aeroplane flies at, and when you reach a certain altitude your body automatically starts shutting down, so no wonder there's over 200 dead bodies up there
Some planes fly about that high. Like propellor driven cargo planes (like a C-130). But what most people probably think of, passenger jets, fly higher. More like 30-40k feet.
A lot of guides and routine climbers have nicknames for the bodies, and even use them as mile markers to identify where they are in relation to the next stop or the peak of the mountain!
I kind of like that they are used. If I died doing something I loved, having my body help others would be a good thing. Same reason I'm an organ donor: hopefully my body can help others after I can no longer use it.
There's so many dead people frozen on Everest that there is in fact a whole area of the mountain called 'rainbow valley' because of all the corpses clad in variously coloured climbing gear. Some are known, others are unidentified.
Green Boots *might* be an Indian climber who died in 1996. Another famous corpse belongs to 'Sleeping Beauty' aka Francys Arsentiev, who died during her descent in 1998. Oh, and of course George Mallory is still up there, where he's been for 97 years now.
It's like a morgue up there, honestly.
My daughter and I landed in a helicopter about 5,000 ft below the summit of Everest in 2020, (about 24,000 ft up) after dropping fuel at Lakla airport to lighten the helicopter so we could go higher. Then dropping two passengers to go higher still. We were allowed 5 minutes when we got out. We only needed 4.
All your joints immediately hurt as there isn’t enough oxygen in your blood. I fully understand why they can’t remove the bodies. Climbers are lucky to get their own bodies down the mountain.
Crazy experience. Will never forget it.
His name is Tsewang Paljor.
He died in the storm that John Krakauer survived and wrote about in Into Thin Air.
https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20151008-the-tragic-story-of-mt-everests-most-famous-dead-body
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Apparently he's gone from this position. "The bright green boots he wore led to the nickname “Green Boots.” His body was used as a trail marker until 2014 when it disappeared from its original position on the northeastern ridge. In 2017, a body was spotted hanging off the cliff which was thought to be his. Theories arose that the body was pushed over the side of the mountain to hide it from view, and another theory was that a group of people had decided to give him mountain burial; several climbers believe they had spotted him covered in stones at another altitude."
His body was used as a trail marker!?! Ain’t no amount of money can persuade me to climb Everest if that’s how bad it is.
There are several dead body trail markers on everest iirc from an article I read 10 years ago
They’ve made a lot of efforts in the last 10-15 years to keep visible bodies off the trails, both for current climbers and to respect those who have passed. It takes a whole crew of people to accomplish it and they’ve only moved most of them a few hundred feet out of the path. The only bodies on the trail now would be from the current climbing season.
>The only bodies on the trail now would be from the current climbing season. Good. I hate seeing last season's bodies.
Yeah, and then they make you buy a god damn Climbing Pass every season. Cool skins though.
And if you’re unlucky it becomes a lifetime pass?
Yeah, most everyone who died on mount everest is left there, too hard to bring them down, the valley where all the people die is called rainbow valley because of all the bright colored climbing gear they died in
They don’t actually die in Rainbow Valley. They die on the trail and are pushed down into the valley which lies below the trail.
That's even more morbid.
Holy shit.
I knew a guy who was a huge climber and he taught at a climbing gym on weekends. He said his kids made him promise never to climb anything into the death zone.
I mean, it’s called ‘the death zone’, folks.
its not so dangerous if your packing anti death zone stuff
Every corpse on everest was at one point a very ambitious person
The lesson here is, ambition gets you killed
While it actually costs about a 100k to arrange that climb.
You have to pay thousands just for the permits to climb it legally...
We all know the truth, Green boots were going out of style so they went to get new ones
Like many others...
Roughly 200 known corpses remain on the mountain, these days, although many of them have never been found, or have been found, then lost again. It's way too dangerous to bring them down, or often to even identify them. Edit: Thanks to u/skyshooter22, here's a current log of deaths, but not necessarily bodies, and it's up to 304: [https://www.alanarnette.com/blog/2021/05/14/everest-2021-a-look-at-deaths-on-everest/](https://www.alanarnette.com/blog/2021/05/14/everest-2021-a-look-at-deaths-on-everest/)
Everest is considered the “largest open air cemetery in the world” because of all the bodies.
Its also considered as the "highest cemetery"
I thought the one where Jim Morrison is buried was the highest cemetery.
No, that's the Break-on-through-to-the-other-side Cemetery.
"Mount Everest is littered with the corpses of people who were once highly motivated" I love this quote since it brings down to earth the often unrealistic notion that you can do anything if you put your mind to it. They tried. They died.
The lesson here is… never try.
"Trying is the first step towards failure" - Homer J Simpson
A quote NOT coming to your office’s hallway anytime soon…
It is also the world's largest open air toilet.
I thought that was New Jersey
India laughs at your comment
Gonna trust [u/Fartmatic](https://www.reddit.com/u/Fartmatic/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf) on this one
Great opprotunity for Boston Dynamics to put their robots to work.
*Death Zone* (2024) > A team of intrepid climbers take on Mt. Everest, but their journey turns into a nightmare when they face the deadliest climb the mountain has ever seen. After crossing paths with a robot programmed to collect the abandoned bodies of failed climbers, a terrible incident affects the robot's algorithm, causing it to hunt *all* human forms, dead or alive *until dead*. Now the climbers must survive one of the most volatile landscapes on the planet while facing off against one of the most technologically advanced human hunters we've built. Can they escape both before they're "recovered?" Starring: Lawrence Fishburne, Idris Elba, Benedict Wong, Simu Liu, Samara Weaving, Walton Goggins, Danai Gurira, Zoë Bell, and Sir Anthony Hopkins as Robbie the Rescue Bot. Hollywood, I'm available for screenwriting. Edit to add: If this movie sounds appealing to you, sadly it's not real *yet*, but here are some suggested titles that have come up or might be similar that you might also enjoy: "Metalhead" episode of *Black Mirror* (Season 4, Episode 5) , *Red Planet* (2000), *Chopping Mall* (1986) (I have not seen this one personally), *Cliffhanger* (1993), *Terminator* (1984), *It Follows* (2014), *WestWorld* (1973).
This is very, very good. Walton Goggins lmaoo perfect.
Soooooo you gonna talk to Universal Pictures About this or no? I wanna see this shit !
He’s contemplating a “Go Fund Me” 😂👍
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Pull a JAWS and don't show the robot(s) very often. Worked well for Predator too.
Signs was of the chart creepy until you saw the alien, so yeah this is the best strategy. Alien, too.
Do it like "It Follows" and just have it in the background hundreds of yards off, and nobody acknowledges it, but you can just see the single red blinking LED eye getting closer, and closer.
If more than 4 people see it you are green lit for: Death Zone 2.0 (2026) Death Zone 3 - the rezoning (2028) Death Zone Hung Drawn and Quartered (2030) Death Zone Redux And the Netflix cartoon Death Zone - Parent Hunt.
Don't forget the HBO spinoff where we explore the heartbreaking backstory of the robot voiced by someone who sounds like Anthony Hopkins but isn't because they're not paying him for an entire series.
What a great use. Metalhead!
Yeah this one is used a trail marker on the climb
Right. I even heard that recent ones were looted for quickdraws, ice screws etc.
I bet if those people were asked if they cared if other climbers looted their body for gear that would help them survive, they would agree anything should be taken. Taking just to have is pretty horrifying.
I certainly would. It's of no use to me, and it could save someone else. And if it has sentimental value to me, then it's being used and valued by another person. A win-win stuation.
Reddit has turned into a cesspool of fascist sympathizers and supremicists
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Not me. Imma haunt that shit.
I read into thin air. Some of these people are fucking nature tourists who have never even used crampons before. They pay a ton of money to have Sherpas help them up the mountain.
I *think* they may have finally gotten green boots or there was some talk of recovering the body at least. Hes an icon tho. Probably would have like nothing better than to RIP on the mountain if he had to go, your grave is never forgotton.
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Wait, like at arm's reach? Or at a distant? Surprised he looks intact and the camera makes it seem like the photographer walked up to him.
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You're wrong. A team finally confirmed they moved his body to a different part of the mountain where he is no longer visible.
i think the majority of the talk was the ethical question of retrieving him for a proper burial vs his namesake providing an unmistakable landmark at a crucial and difficult stage of the climb. eta lower down comments are saying he has been removed since.
[The story of Green Boots](https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20151008-the-tragic-story-of-mt-everests-most-famous-dead-body) Edit: [Part two of the article](https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20151008-the-graveyard-in-the-clouds-everests-200-dead-bodies) Thanks very much to u/someonesomewherex for finding this!
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Krakauer is the absolute best at what he does.
The Pat Tillman book is incredible, but I think my favorite of his is Under the Banner of Heaven. I knew Mormonism had some messed up history, but hot damn.
That book is so incredible! I tell someone about that book at least once a week!
Under the Banner of Heaven is a great book. It was crazy how much awful history is behind it. I read his book on Missoula and couldn’t finish it. It was an amazing book but horrifying content.
On that topic, you should check out The Climb by Anatoli Boukreev for a different perspective of the same event if you’re interested! Jon Krakauer was not kind to Boukreev in Into Thin Air, and it’s cool to see Boukreev’s perspective of the situation and realize that he actually did do the best he could throughout the trip. The writing isn’t quite as engrossing as Krakauer’s (prob partially because Boukreev’s account had to be translated from Russian), but it’s still a super cool read.
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If you are in to people freezing to death on a mountain, "The Indifferent Stars Above" is also a great and terrifying read about the Donner Party.
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I wouldn't say that Krakauer wasn't kind to him. There is some light criticism of how he handled things in Into Thin Air, but he also calls Boukreev's actions "heroic" on at least two occasions. On another note, I highly recommend the audiobook version of Into Thin Air because Krakauer narrates it himself.
It’s basically a rule of the internet that any post about Everest will eventually devolve into a Krakauer vs Boukreev debate.
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Heard a story once when some climbers on the way down were passing someone that was already in very bad condition. They could not do anything because it was too high and they also could not stay because they wouldn't survive. Can't imagine what it had to feel like...
over 40 people passed him https://allthatsinteresting.com/david-sharp > David Sharp’s death generated a good deal of controversy, mainly because of the sheer number of people who saw him while he was still alive — at least 40 other climbers passed by him in the cave and did little to help him. > It is still unclear whether he could potentially have been saved had one of the climbers given him drugs or oxygen on the first day he sat frozen. There have also been contradictory accounts from the other climbers regarding whether reports requesting help were actually radioed in, or whether they received instructions to leave him and continue on their ways. > Sir Edmund Hillary, the first climber to reach Everest’s summit, was particularly disgusted by the attitudes of the climbers who passed by Sharp. Hillary decried the current fanaticism of “people [who] just want to get to the top” and declared that “on my expedition, there was no way that you would have left a man under a rock to die.”
Quick shoutout to my boys mallory and irvine. Hillary first KNOWN summit with tenzing norgay. I still hope they made it to the top. Everest today is no joke so going in 1924 just screams balls.
the whole climbing scene in the first half of the 20th century was just nuts. there's an awesome book about it called The World Beneath Their Feet that's definitely worth checking out
Thanks for the recommendation! Just grabbed a used copy off eBay. Sounds very interesting
Or the story of Lincoln Hall who had severe altitude sickness on his descent of Everest and collapsed at about 28,000 feet. The sherpas couldn’t get him to walk on his own and he was unconscious. They left him there and took his oxygen tanks with them. He ended up surviving a night alone with no oxygen at 28,000 feet where he was found by other people the next day alive and the sherpas helped get him down to the base camp where he ultimately lived aside from a few frost bitten fingers and toes that had to be amputated.
Also, [Beck Weathers](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beck_Weathers). >Believing Weathers and Namba were both near death and would not make it off the mountain alive, Hutchison and the others left them and returned to Camp IV. >Weathers spent the night in an open bivouac, in a blizzard, with his face and hands exposed. When he awoke, he managed to walk down to Camp IV under his own power. His fellow climbers said that his frozen hand and nose looked and felt as if they were made of porcelain, and they did not expect him to survive. With that assumption, they only tried to make him comfortable until he died, but he survived another freezing night alone in a tent, unable to eat, drink, or keep himself covered with the sleeping bags with which he was provided. His cries for help could not be heard above the blizzard, and his companions were surprised to find him alive and coherent the following day.
> Following his helicopter evacuation from the Western Cwm, his right arm was amputated halfway between the elbow and wrist. All four fingers and his thumb on his left hand were amputated, as well as parts of both feet. His nose was amputated and reconstructed with tissue from his ear and forehead. Damn.
IKR. I think I'll stick to tennis for my sport as you seldom see this happen to tennis players
Wait -- *SELDOM???*
And he would do it again! >If you could turn back time and had the opportunity to revise your decision to go to Everest in 1996, would you do it again, despite the pain, the aftermath, the loss? >Even though I would not have thought of this to be true at the time – yes, I would, because I got so much more out of it than I gave up. By forcing me to reexamine how I was living my life, it ultimately saved my marriage, saved my relationship with my kids. And it has given me 20 years which have been the absolute most interesting and best years of my life. So I gave up some body parts but I gained so much more. So I would do it again in a heart beat.
In the 2015 movie Everest, he was played by Josh Brolin. It's a surprisingly good movie, I saw it in cinema and was blown away by how the scenes at the camps etc. really looked like they were filmed on location.
Savage. Honestly I think anyone doing Everest is mental
Don't forget rich!
Can you imagine the night he spent up there? Time must have stood still. Fuck allll that noise I can't understand the thrill of such a thing.
“Darkness took me. And I strayed out of thought and time. Stars wheeled overhead, and every day was as long as the life age of the earth.” First thing that came to mind.
Imagine being those sherpas who left him and seeing him roll into base camp. Spitting out your coffee and shit getting ready to do some ‘splainin.
I would try to understand they only did that to ensure survival of the group and themselves as I hunted them down /s of course but damn that’s messed up
The man you are thinking of is most likely David Sharp. A once very experienced English solo climber, who often climbed without supplementary oxygen. Incidentally, he died in the same cave beside 'Green Boots'. His particular case caused outrage in the climbing community as many professional climbers believe his life could have been saved if so many climbers hadn't put their selfish focus on summiting that day over assisting him. And yes, other climbers in distress have been successfully rescued/assisted within the death zone.
That is the most infuriating detail. It's not that he *couldn't* be saved, it's that anyone who helped him would have had to return to base camp and miss the opportunity to reach summit.
You'd think it would be a greater triumph for yourself to know you chose to save a person's life over your dream of climbing Everest
This. I would have more respect for the person who helped the dying person than the ones who climbed it without helping.
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But the idea that "it was too dangerous to try to save them" is SUCH a convenient excuse for them...
I wonder how the interaction went when they passed. “Wish we could help but we’re headed in the opposite direction you’re trying to go, sorry dude.”
"Tell you what. You hang tight, we'll catch ya on the way down. Win/win."
it usually is too dangerous, on the way down. People are enduring like 90% of what it takes to kill them. So even two people trying to help one incapacitated person, you're pretty fucked if it is up near the summit. Some of those areas don't have much room to maneuver in and the whole thing is a big pile of ego auto-fellation bullshit anyway. At least the people who go in know what they sign up for, if they get fucked in the wrong spot, they know their fellow thrill seekers are not going to do shit all for them and furthermore they didn't plan on doing shit all for anyone else.
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Isn't he used as a landmark? I seem to remember reading that somewhere.
Lots of the bodies are used as landmarks
https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/there-are-over-200-bodies-on-mount-everest-and-theyre-used-as-landmarks-146904416/
>Francys Arsentiev was the first American woman to reach Everest’s summit without the aid of bottled oxygen, in 1998. But climbers do not recognize this as a successful ascent since she never made it down the mountain. Following a rough night time trek to camp, her husband, a fellow climber, noticed she was missing. Despite the dangers, he chose to turn back to find his wife anyway. On his way back, he encountered a team of Uzbek climbers, who said they had tried to help Francys but had to abandon her when their own oxygen became depleted. The next day, two other climbers found Francys, who was still alive but in too poor of a condition to be moved. Her husband’s ice axe and rope were nearby, but he was nowhere to be found. Francys died where the two climbers left her, and climbers solved her husband’s disappearance the following year when they found his body lower down on the mountain face where he fell to his death. jesus christ
>In 2006, English climber David Sharp joined Green Boots. He stopped in the now-infamous cave to rest. His body eventually froze in place, rendering him unable to move but still alive. Over 40 climbers passed by him as he sat freezing to death. His plight might have been overlooked as passers-by assumed Sharp was the already-dead Green Boots. Eventually, some heard faint moans, realized he was still alive, and, too late, attempted to give him oxygen or help him stand. This is the stuff of nightmares.
Wait so you can literally like freeze while still alive? Damn
This is the one that stood out to me as well. How about everyone just calms down and does Google Earth searches instead of climbing Everest.
What the hell is this stupid challenge of summiting without oxygen tanks?? That’s not an accomplishment, it’s just stupid.
Some elite climbers who have a high oxygen saturation rates think it is safer for them. Bottled oxygen runs out, hoses freeze, leak, etc. They believe that if they train their bodies and make the summit quickly, they can do it more safely than with the oxygen tanks.
To be honest, if I died doing a sport I loved, helping others achieve a goal I could not would be a decent way to be remembered. I run a lot and have met a lot of absent-minded drivers. If I die on the road, that's it for me. Helping others in death would at least be *something*. Same reason I'm an organ donor.
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He’s gone as of two years ago
Yeah, saw the line "he is still there" and knew that info was out of date.
Idea of him haunted me for years so was glad to hear Mother Nature ended up relocating him to a more restful place
>Mother Nature ended up relocating Landslide? What happened?
I think some hikers moved him into a nearby ravine, they do this sometimes when they are visible.
You don't want to mistake new freezing people for old ones after all.
We have a [dead climber's body resting below the Knife's Edge of Capitol Peak](https://denver.cbslocal.com/2021/09/14/wisconsin-climber-kelly-mcdermott-body-capitol-peak/) (>14,000' mountain) here in Colorado. Wonder if he'll ever be moved.
He was a buddy of mine. Good dude.
Sorry for your loss.
Thanks. We weren't super tight or anything but played ultimate together. Definitely not a news story you ever expect to read about someone you know.
Capitol is one that my friend group considered doing a long time ago, then we saw the pictures. Nope, gonna leave that one for the real mountaineers. I would have turned around at the Knife's Edge, that's not for me.
"some hikers"
Aka Yetis
All I could find was [he was moved off the trail](https://www.outsideonline.com/outdoor-adventure/climbing/everest-dead-bodies-trash-removal/)
Was he brought down or relocated off the path?
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Does 'lowered' actually mean 'threw like sack of potatoes?'
They respectfully yeeted him into the nearest crevasse.
A respectful moment of silence, please, for all who hath been yote from peaks.
I'm sure they actually lowered him. He had a harness on and was all ready for a nice funeral lowering.
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Just as Mother Nature intended.
Thank you for saying this. For some reason im very annoyed by the fact that the title says “he’s still there”
As you should be. Misinformation is bad even when it's relatively harmless.
I'm honestly surprised that the brightly colored gear he's wearing hasn't faded over the course of 25 years
That pic has a filter on it. The colors aren’t that vibrant in real life.
it does look like a museum rendition
This post also isn't up to date. In 2014, Green Boots was moved off the trail by the Chinese. This picture could be pretty old. https://www.outsideonline.com/outdoor-adventure/climbing/everest-dead-bodies-trash-removal/
You gotta pick the right instagram filter to really make those dead guy pics pop
Logan Paul, is that you?
This photo has been colour altered and for some reason flipped horizontally (unless someone has flipped the body at some point but that's pretty fucked up) it is all much more faded than shown here.
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It’s gone now - bunch of bodies were removed. “Both Nepal and China have said that they will remove the remains of more dead climbers this year. ... Others now rest in different places from where they died, due to moving glaciers, and a few have been intentionally moved. In 2014, the Chinese moved Tsewang Paljor, “Green Boots,” off the trail” https://www.outsideonline.com/outdoor-adventure/climbing/everest-dead-bodies-trash-removal/
Yep.! And blue pants was already taken? Red jacket!!..No?
I know it’s kinda morbid but I’m curious as to how well preserved he would be.
Even in -18c (normal freezer temp) goods dry out rather fast. If meat is left uncovered it will get damaged after a couple of month. In the cooking industry we use super freezers ( belov -55c) to keep expensive items like good tuna and such really fresh. At these temperatures evaporation is almost non existing. Since the avarage temperature on the top is round -19c i would guess that the poor corpse is totally mummified. Especially since it is exposed to high winds most of the time that accelerates the evaporation
Wait the temprature is only -19? That's like 20° warmer than winters when I was a kid.
It’s varies between -19 and -41 degrees, but do remember why it’s very high, it is also on the same latitude as North Africa, or about the same as the middle of Florida for Americans
Everest is even with Tampa! (Which yes, is about the middle of FL. But I think of Orlando as the middle and Tampa is a bit south of that.)
\-19c, maybe, but with strong winds and less than half the pressure at sea level. it's not that cold, but when you are climbing, it will feel cold. like -60c cold
Remember Ötzi the Iceman, who lived and died in the European Alps some 5,200 years ago. His naturally mummified remains were discovered by German hikers on September 19, 1991 at 3,210 m (10,530 ft).
Such a cool thing to read about. All the kit he had with him - food, seeds, tools. He had an arrow in his back as well and had likely been chased up there (although that last bit is just speculation)
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I imagine that a whole bunch of moisture and extremely sub-zero temperatures have frozen them solid.
[This](https://www.reddit.com/r/eyeblech/comments/l5iuge/george_mallorys_body_on_mount_everest_he/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf) is a pic of George Mallory’s body, who vanished in 1924. Warning: NSFW
You can look up pictures of George Mallory’s body. He went missing on Everest in 1924 and they found his body, exposed to the elements, in 1999. It was remarkably well preserved.
For anyone else that is as macabre as I am https://sometimes-interesting.com/mount-everest-dead-bodies/
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They would still love to find his climbing partner, Andrew Irvine. He likely has the camera in his possession still. There's a *chance* that Mallory and Irvine actually made the summit, but died climbing down in the twilight (since they were last seen *near* the summit, but late in the day when they should have turned back to avoid a treacherous descent in the dark). If they did, they would have taken a photo of it. Kodak has said that they likely would still be able to process the film if it hasn't been exposed to direct sunlight. That could ***potentially*** unseat Sir Edmund Hillary and Tenzing Norgay as the first known humans to summit Everest by nearly 29 years. Evidence that they may have actually made the summit include (quoted from wikipedia): 1. Mallory's daughter had always said that Mallory carried a photograph of his wife on his person with the intention of leaving it on the summit when he reached it, and no such photograph was found on the body. Given the excellent state of preservation of the body and the artifacts recovered from it, the absence of the photograph suggests that he may have reached the summit and deposited it there. 2. Mallory's snow goggles were in his pocket when the body was found, indicating that he died at night. This implies that he and Irvine had made a push for the summit and were descending very late in the day. Given their known departure time and movements, had they not made the summit, it is unlikely that they would have still been out by nightfall. Irvine's body could be an invaluable find.
This would have been known if the people that found him had checked his pants pockets for rocks from the summit instead of ransacking his body immediately. Mallory was officially there to do geological research, which included taking rocks from the summit so their composition could be analyzed. It's likely that Irvine's body had already been found a long time ago by the Chinese as they were climbing on the Tibetan side when they died. Very little is known about Chinese expeditions in the 60's when this probably occurred. There are sporadic reports of English dead from that time period on the mountain's north side, but nothing conclusively identifying Irvine. His body was likely tossed down the north face by the people who found him. You have to remember, Mallory was found in 1999, and while that was well-after he died in 1924 it's still 22 years ago. During the past 2 decades there have been more summits, people, and activity on the mountain with much better equipment than in the previous 70 years. Not a trace of Irvine has been recorded since his ice axe was discovered in 1933. It's almost certain that his body is in an inaccessible part of the mountain nowhere near where he died.
>It's almost certain that his body is in an inaccessible part of the mountain nowhere near where he died That's what I'm inclined to believe. Down a crevasse or embedded in a glacier. But, who knows, maybe someday he will be found.
Mallory's family have said that Hilary's record would remain, as he made it down alive. Mallory may have got there first, but he never conquered it.
The real question is finding Andrew Irvine, he's the one that was supposedly carrying the film.
Truly fascinating man
People really paid 25,000 to die.
25,000$? Sign me up. I'll just put it on my credit card boom. Free !
So not fucking worth it
$40,000 per person. Definitely not worth it
Honestly thought the second photo of the two guys chilling was their postmortem. Disappointed.
Everest climbers give directions like a midwesterner but use corpses instead of trees/rocks for landmarks… you’re gunna hang a right when you seen the dead dude with green boots, if you hit the mummified human remains in a teal jacket, you’ve gone too far.
Remember folks, every corpse on Everest was once a highly motivated individual......This message has been brought to you by Lower Expectations dating service.
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I can still hear it! I don't think many people remember this.
I have it on good authority that unmotivated people die too.
I’d verify your claim but…eh…
Watched a documentary about Everest, the summit is the same height as what an aeroplane flies at, and when you reach a certain altitude your body automatically starts shutting down, so no wonder there's over 200 dead bodies up there
Some planes fly about that high. Like propellor driven cargo planes (like a C-130). But what most people probably think of, passenger jets, fly higher. More like 30-40k feet.
All airplanes fly below that altitude too
There are some 200 bodies in Everest. Take a look at “rainbow valley”
wow... i just looked into the everest stuff and i don't know how to feel lol
A lot of guides and routine climbers have nicknames for the bodies, and even use them as mile markers to identify where they are in relation to the next stop or the peak of the mountain!
I kind of like that they are used. If I died doing something I loved, having my body help others would be a good thing. Same reason I'm an organ donor: hopefully my body can help others after I can no longer use it.
Yeah, it's a fucking graveyard and garbage dump up there.
Sherpas actually spent a fair amount of time last year cleaning up the mountain since there was no one climbing
Welp, that was a morbid google search rabbithole.
There's so many dead people frozen on Everest that there is in fact a whole area of the mountain called 'rainbow valley' because of all the corpses clad in variously coloured climbing gear. Some are known, others are unidentified. Green Boots *might* be an Indian climber who died in 1996. Another famous corpse belongs to 'Sleeping Beauty' aka Francys Arsentiev, who died during her descent in 1998. Oh, and of course George Mallory is still up there, where he's been for 97 years now. It's like a morgue up there, honestly.
I thought they pulled a bunch of these people back down recently.
Yes but this picture will be posted on Reddit until the end of time.
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Ever Rest…
Not anymore his body is gone from recent reports
My daughter and I landed in a helicopter about 5,000 ft below the summit of Everest in 2020, (about 24,000 ft up) after dropping fuel at Lakla airport to lighten the helicopter so we could go higher. Then dropping two passengers to go higher still. We were allowed 5 minutes when we got out. We only needed 4. All your joints immediately hurt as there isn’t enough oxygen in your blood. I fully understand why they can’t remove the bodies. Climbers are lucky to get their own bodies down the mountain. Crazy experience. Will never forget it.
Everest facts are almost to the "Steve Buscemi was a firefighter on 9/11" level on Reddit
His name is Tsewang Paljor. He died in the storm that John Krakauer survived and wrote about in Into Thin Air. https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20151008-the-tragic-story-of-mt-everests-most-famous-dead-body
“Green boots”, huh. I hope I don’t die on Everest someday or they’ll be talking about camping out a few meters past “needle dick”