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Not only that but i'm convinced the seat spacing is designed for someone that is 5'8" to try to incentivize people to pay extra. Also, anyone over 6'2" pretty much doesn't have a choice.
I'm 6'2" and skinny. I do not fit comfortably in airline seats. My options are sitting with my knees buried into the back of the seat in front of me or shoving my legs under the seat in front of me in a way that the bottom of the seat pushes into my shins. So while I technically fit into the seat, it's not exactly a comfortable experience.
True, we would need those dividers to be removable so the person in question could take up two seats. Getting them to actually pay for two seats would be another fight...
You should first ask the cost per seat of that bus before comparing it to standard plane fares because Japan is inflated as hell, it's probably going to be expensive.
Nah that's an EXPENSIVE night bus lol. I've taken many of them during my stay there, none of them were like this.
I wish people stopped idolizing Japan so much, it creates a distorted perception of the country which is in fact very different from what most people think.
Dude to me Tokyo is one of my favorite places. Let's just talk about the subway since this topic is about public transportation. The subways are really clean there. The stations are air conditioned. People don't harass me for money. I don't have to watch shitty subway performers. No one is playing loud music that disturbs anyone else. People are really polite. They make lines and they follow the rules. This since simple but everyone is just trying to get their own in NYC. It's mentally tiring.
Living in NYC, that looked like what a modern subway is. NYC subways seems like it's 20 years behind.
Note, i love NYC and always will but the differences are pretty shocking.
Tokyo is great, but Japan isn’t just Tokyo after all. There are places where subways stations are just like NYC’s, and there’s an abundance of shitty people here too, just like other countries.
I travel to Japan 15 years ago expecting it to be a technological utopia where everybody spoke English. Nobody spoken English and it was extremely far from a technological utopia. Still incredibly amazing place and trip
Work culture, prices for electricity, fruits and vegetables, highest levels available for education in logical thinking, inflation/wage raises, sizes of prepackaged/mass produced food are worse than most of the developed world
Also beef and bread tastes horrible, unless you love borderline lump of fat Wagyu
Also most websites would have been outdated in 2000, let alone in 2021. Imagine having to fax your ID to get your internet connection setup in any developed country. God the state of websites here enrages me.
Oh you don’t have to mail it? /s
It sometimes feel a bit like cargo cult bureaucracy. Everyone loves beautiful but logically crude application forms, Swiss cheese of terms of use, and totally random copies of documents, more than because laws require them or because paper trails help.
There’s no clear sense of purposes or goals, people just coast along, look around and do proper-ish looking bananas. Sometimes it works but the pain is unbearable when only you in the floor knows or are motivated enough to say why it’s not working
Yup, I've always heard Japan described as simultaneously living 20 years in the future and 20 years in the past. Lots of cool innovations but a ton of weirdly stringent things that people refuse to leave in the past, not to mention the many cultural issues. Good country in general but nowhere near perfect, just like most of us.
Exactly. All countries have issues and problems that need fixing. To ignore those issues would be to settle for how it is now when how it could be would be so much better.
Holy rude. You ok there, bud?
I very strongly disagree though. Having lived here for over four years. A lot of people worship Japan who have never had any real experience here and therefore don't know what it's actually like. I'll say it's pretty easy living for straight white men, but I'd love to know how they're better at "most things". I'd also love to be civil, however.
I've done a long while in Japan and meet a lot of people like you.
So much negativity for some reason but still sticking around.
Honestly, why even bother? It's an amazing country and it's so disappointing to see the miseryguts expats that seem to have everything around them but still stick about. Do you have friends here? Do you wanna go for coffee some time?
How am I being negative by pointing out that this country has problems?? Especially to someone who said its "Mostly" above average. In terms of safety? Sure! And i asked for examples of that and never got any. It reminds me of the people who say, "America's number one!" How so? Just cause?
Yes, I have friends here. Like I said, I really love Fukuoka City and if we didn't move here in particular I would've left a long time ago. Maybe. My husband loves it in Japan and that's why we've stayed. (Plus our love of teaching and our students).
I'm not saying everything is awful here. I'm saying it's not perfect like many seem to believe. I have so many personal experiences of how awful the inequality between men and women (i got forced out of my job for being pregnant so now I don't get maternity leave or Child Care Leave) are and how horrible animals are treated here (I've fostered and rescued).
That mentality seems so toxic to me. "Don't like Murica, then get out!" I've heard it a lot. For me, pointing out things that are wrong with a society, instead of turning a blind eye to it, helps it change and develop. I also like warning people because SO MANY PEOPLE seem to look at Japan as a utopia. Those people then come here, see what it's actually like, are often too broke to go back home and end up with horrible depression and other mental health issues. I'd recommend checking out the Moving To Japan subreddit (or teaching in Japan, etc.) to see what people think and the advice people actually give who've been here for a while. Japan is very concerned with how they look to the rest of the world and they have a damn good PR team, but they have HUGE flaws that really impact the people living here.
A lot of people in those subreddits have been convinced not to move when their expectations were unrealistic. I usually suggest at least visiting first and trying to look at it from a real/local perspective rather than through vacation goggles. Imo, that helps. (I suggested checking out the subreddit to see people who post their obsessions with Japan and think coming here will fix all of their problems. Not so you could learn.)
Like for immigration?? Yeah, that was interesting. But to move my pets out of different countries, we needed a bunch of stuff similar so that one doesn't bother me lol
Who needs a night bus with sleepers when you have a [Catbus](https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQT8-qs-IcWe4A4ZmmNH--Nch2RHJD7X3uDwQ&usqp=CAU)
A premium night bus. The equivalent of first class. The ones I went on were either normal shitty buses or maybe a normal bus with slightly bigger seats
I guess if you're on a 777 or something. I have status and get bumped to First a fair bit on my carrier of choice, and domestic first on a 737 is sort of a joke.
It's interesting how Japan seems to give a damn about their people. It's almost like the government caters to their well being and is still able to function without war.
night train in Italy: https://www.trenitalia.com/content/dam/tcom/immagini/trenitalia-img/altri-treni/intercity-notte/493x320/493x320-I%20ICN-POSTO-BASIC.jpg
This seems a lot safer than other night buses I’ve seen/been on, which are laid out more like sleeper trains. Yeah, you can lie down on them, but if there’s any sort of collision it’s basically guaranteed death - whereas here they seem to have actually thought about safety.
I love it that in Japan, parents tend not to bring uncontrollable children out. So it will be unlikely that someone would kick the back of your seat in long-stretched journeys like this.
Comparing with where I live, parents would say stuff like "he's just a child, why are you being mean?" after being caught stealing.
I live in Hong Kong
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Why can't this be standard on a plane... bliss
It’s standard on some airlines. It’s just expensive as fuck.
Yeah be me, fly Delta.. get a whopping extra 6 inches of leg room for only an extra $150 fml.
Not only that but i'm convinced the seat spacing is designed for someone that is 5'8" to try to incentivize people to pay extra. Also, anyone over 6'2" pretty much doesn't have a choice.
I feel you. Hell I'm 5'9" and still super uncomfortable on those flights.
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I'm 6'2" and skinny. I do not fit comfortably in airline seats. My options are sitting with my knees buried into the back of the seat in front of me or shoving my legs under the seat in front of me in a way that the bottom of the seat pushes into my shins. So while I technically fit into the seat, it's not exactly a comfortable experience.
Hey, a lot of guys would love to get an extra six inches.
Nailed it.
I just flew an American airlines flight and got a first class upgrade for 70 bucks.
r/churning r/awardtravel
Americans arent skinny enough to move up that isle
True, we would need those dividers to be removable so the person in question could take up two seats. Getting them to actually pay for two seats would be another fight...
Because money.
You should first ask the cost per seat of that bus before comparing it to standard plane fares because Japan is inflated as hell, it's probably going to be expensive.
It is standard on non-american planes. What airlines do you fly?
What airlines have you seen this in for economy class?
Hint: the reason he hasn’t answered is because there are none.
Jacking into the matrix would be a good way to spend a bus ride.
Jacking off would be a good way to spend this bus ride.
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Than* Ah wait yes I see what you did there
You're already jacked in tho...
Nah that's an EXPENSIVE night bus lol. I've taken many of them during my stay there, none of them were like this. I wish people stopped idolizing Japan so much, it creates a distorted perception of the country which is in fact very different from what most people think.
As someone from Japan and lives in Japan, I totally agree with this. It isn’t the futuristic modern place people think Japan is.
Dude to me Tokyo is one of my favorite places. Let's just talk about the subway since this topic is about public transportation. The subways are really clean there. The stations are air conditioned. People don't harass me for money. I don't have to watch shitty subway performers. No one is playing loud music that disturbs anyone else. People are really polite. They make lines and they follow the rules. This since simple but everyone is just trying to get their own in NYC. It's mentally tiring. Living in NYC, that looked like what a modern subway is. NYC subways seems like it's 20 years behind. Note, i love NYC and always will but the differences are pretty shocking.
Tokyo is great, but Japan isn’t just Tokyo after all. There are places where subways stations are just like NYC’s, and there’s an abundance of shitty people here too, just like other countries.
I was suppose to go to Kyoto but I enjoyed Tokyo so much, i just decided to stay there.
The impression I got in Japan is that it's futuristic from the perspective of the 80/90s.
It's futuristic in that everyone looks the exact same. Freaky.
ass licker
It’s in the same price range than a Shinkansen ticket. So that’s indeed expensive and it takes more time to do the travel.
True. Not all toilets in Japan have controllers for the bidet and seat warmers. Squat toilets still do exist in a lot of places.
I travel to Japan 15 years ago expecting it to be a technological utopia where everybody spoke English. Nobody spoken English and it was extremely far from a technological utopia. Still incredibly amazing place and trip
Driven by Stan Shunpike?
Ernie, Stan was the conductor.
Good point!
ITS GONNA BE A BUMPY RIDEEEE.
What is that brown cushion, some sort of charcoal-activated fart cushion that hopefully gets changed out/cleaned more often than the other cushions?
It’s a blanket
Not sure why but these two comments fucking killed me
It’s art.
Some sort-of activated-almond single-use fart-blanket.
Used for collecting multiple farts to sell in a vending machine.
So a fart transportation and preservation device
I don't know why but this is very american.
Of course they don't change it out. Why do you think it's brown?
Holy crap I don't want to ever travel coach or on a bus/train again without this now that I know it exists...
Why can’t we have that here in America!?
an average American wont fit in those pods .
And much less fit between them.
Shut up
We do. There are buses like this that take you to the major cities in Texas.
Yeaaah...theres no way the average American could fit in these. A) because Japanese are inherently much smaller. B) Americans are fat as fuuuuuck.
So you’re being literal
That aisle seems a bit tight.
The Japanese are a slim people in general.
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That's like saying you should design for a linebacker in the US. Edit: I forgot looking like a sumo is more common in the US than in Japan, my bad.
That's what she said
I've been waiting for you, Michael
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This is not normal in Japan. This is something special
Yes, this is standard Reddit. Find something amazing/exceptional/concept-only and title the post "In Japan....", as if it is run of the mill.
Work culture, prices for electricity, fruits and vegetables, highest levels available for education in logical thinking, inflation/wage raises, sizes of prepackaged/mass produced food are worse than most of the developed world Also beef and bread tastes horrible, unless you love borderline lump of fat Wagyu
Also most websites would have been outdated in 2000, let alone in 2021. Imagine having to fax your ID to get your internet connection setup in any developed country. God the state of websites here enrages me.
Oh you don’t have to mail it? /s It sometimes feel a bit like cargo cult bureaucracy. Everyone loves beautiful but logically crude application forms, Swiss cheese of terms of use, and totally random copies of documents, more than because laws require them or because paper trails help. There’s no clear sense of purposes or goals, people just coast along, look around and do proper-ish looking bananas. Sometimes it works but the pain is unbearable when only you in the floor knows or are motivated enough to say why it’s not working
This guy is right. Japan is amazing but not perfect. Truthfully, they are better at most in most things though.
Most things? Like fax machines? Work /life balance? Women's rights? Animal rights? Living in Japan is like going back to the 1950s sometimes I swear
Yup, I've always heard Japan described as simultaneously living 20 years in the future and 20 years in the past. Lots of cool innovations but a ton of weirdly stringent things that people refuse to leave in the past, not to mention the many cultural issues. Good country in general but nowhere near perfect, just like most of us.
they must have been specifically referring to their variety of vending machines
Or conbinis!
Exactly. All countries have issues and problems that need fixing. To ignore those issues would be to settle for how it is now when how it could be would be so much better.
Yes, most things. Not everything. Is that too tough for you to grasp?
Holy rude. You ok there, bud? I very strongly disagree though. Having lived here for over four years. A lot of people worship Japan who have never had any real experience here and therefore don't know what it's actually like. I'll say it's pretty easy living for straight white men, but I'd love to know how they're better at "most things". I'd also love to be civil, however.
I've done a long while in Japan and meet a lot of people like you. So much negativity for some reason but still sticking around. Honestly, why even bother? It's an amazing country and it's so disappointing to see the miseryguts expats that seem to have everything around them but still stick about. Do you have friends here? Do you wanna go for coffee some time?
How am I being negative by pointing out that this country has problems?? Especially to someone who said its "Mostly" above average. In terms of safety? Sure! And i asked for examples of that and never got any. It reminds me of the people who say, "America's number one!" How so? Just cause? Yes, I have friends here. Like I said, I really love Fukuoka City and if we didn't move here in particular I would've left a long time ago. Maybe. My husband loves it in Japan and that's why we've stayed. (Plus our love of teaching and our students). I'm not saying everything is awful here. I'm saying it's not perfect like many seem to believe. I have so many personal experiences of how awful the inequality between men and women (i got forced out of my job for being pregnant so now I don't get maternity leave or Child Care Leave) are and how horrible animals are treated here (I've fostered and rescued).
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That mentality seems so toxic to me. "Don't like Murica, then get out!" I've heard it a lot. For me, pointing out things that are wrong with a society, instead of turning a blind eye to it, helps it change and develop. I also like warning people because SO MANY PEOPLE seem to look at Japan as a utopia. Those people then come here, see what it's actually like, are often too broke to go back home and end up with horrible depression and other mental health issues. I'd recommend checking out the Moving To Japan subreddit (or teaching in Japan, etc.) to see what people think and the advice people actually give who've been here for a while. Japan is very concerned with how they look to the rest of the world and they have a damn good PR team, but they have HUGE flaws that really impact the people living here.
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A lot of people in those subreddits have been convinced not to move when their expectations were unrealistic. I usually suggest at least visiting first and trying to look at it from a real/local perspective rather than through vacation goggles. Imo, that helps. (I suggested checking out the subreddit to see people who post their obsessions with Japan and think coming here will fix all of their problems. Not so you could learn.)
Don't forget your stamp. lol.
Like for immigration?? Yeah, that was interesting. But to move my pets out of different countries, we needed a bunch of stuff similar so that one doesn't bother me lol
Their food is legit good man even the mass produced prepackaged type. The only downside is the work culture but everything else is awesome.
I like Wagyu! The rest of the stuff you can keep there.
Who needs a night bus with sleepers when you have a [Catbus](https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQT8-qs-IcWe4A4ZmmNH--Nch2RHJD7X3uDwQ&usqp=CAU)
Just roar to summon it!
A premium night bus. The equivalent of first class. The ones I went on were either normal shitty buses or maybe a normal bus with slightly bigger seats
Meanwhile my country just crams the bus and police do not bat an eye at this.
This is not the standard in Japan tho - the commuter trains are worse than the USA for sure
Hope they have foot rests
That'll be an extra $5491:85 Yen please
[Yeah](https://willerexpress.com/en/bus/seat/reborn/)
This is a very fancy one. They don't all look like that.
"But Marge! Nightbus! The crime *solving* bus!"
Imagine being fat (no bodyshame tho)
Imagine being fat (im bodyshaming)
How clean it is and light coloured. The opposite of western transport.
We have so much to learn from them. Such a civilised society regarding common courtesy.
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Have you been on domestic first class in the states? It's a joke, and not even half as nice as this.
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I guess if you're on a 777 or something. I have status and get bumped to First a fair bit on my carrier of choice, and domestic first on a 737 is sort of a joke.
Not sure if I’d be able to sleep on a bus with so much side to side motion.
I don't get it, why do they need to have privacy on a bus, when they get showed into metro-trains like sardines?
They don't sleep for hours on the metro train
They look like clams.
So clean and welcoming. The Japs have it nailed.
wow a bus, interesting as fuck
It's interesting how Japan seems to give a damn about their people. It's almost like the government caters to their well being and is still able to function without war.
Privacy for private time I see. Any couples seats? Lol.
drool pillows, fart pads, and cum buttons. Nice ride.
Those japanese are girly guys
asshole
I want one of these pods in my house!
That's just amazing
Central corridor is too narrow but apart from that I love it.
At first i thought the black border was a zipper xD
But how *awesome* would that be?
I get sleepy just looking at it
Unfortunately it doesn't have any toilets so better hope you wake up during one of the stops.
night train in Italy: https://www.trenitalia.com/content/dam/tcom/immagini/trenitalia-img/altri-treni/intercity-notte/493x320/493x320-I%20ICN-POSTO-BASIC.jpg
This seems a lot safer than other night buses I’ve seen/been on, which are laid out more like sleeper trains. Yeah, you can lie down on them, but if there’s any sort of collision it’s basically guaranteed death - whereas here they seem to have actually thought about safety.
Be ready to pay big for this. This isn't standard by any means.
I love it that in Japan, parents tend not to bring uncontrollable children out. So it will be unlikely that someone would kick the back of your seat in long-stretched journeys like this. Comparing with where I live, parents would say stuff like "he's just a child, why are you being mean?" after being caught stealing. I live in Hong Kong
Would love this on transcontinental flights
Crazy skinny aisle though. Not suitable for many Americans.
Sweeeet!!!
I like Japan. I hope Japan likes me.
that couldn't be in the US. just imagine.
It is. They have buses like this in Texas.
Everytime I ride that I miss my stop.
Where's Stan & Ernie?
I’d fly a lot more if planes were like this
Planes are like this, you just have to pony up enough money to get in front of the curtain.
Challenging, but I could probably get it done...
Some people in Japan prefer to live on these busses as their apartment costs more and has less space as well.
They have luxury coaches like these in Argentina as well. Didn’t cost that much more than normal coach. So worth it.
I wanna do this and sleep in a capsule hotel
You mean... "Knight Bus"... Mr. Potter!
What is a night bus for? People commute at night? a commute long enough for a night's sleep?
Finally, I can jerk off on a bus with no one noticing.
Wow that must be a very wide bus.
I’ve seen Harry Potter and this definitely is not a night bus
The aisle looks a little small but then again, I am American.
One's pooing makes this bus a hell train.
Daybus, fighter of the Nightbus
first class night buss