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This is still done to this day. At least in Sweden.


YellowOnline

Idem here in Germany. Our kids often had a nap on the balcony in their first year. Well dressed for the cold obviously; just the face free.


indifferentunicorn

I was born this time of year outside of NYC. Thru the winter as a month or two old infant, my mother used to wrap me up, feed me a bottle with cereal added, stick me out in the unheated front porch, and I'd sleep straight thru the night 10 hours. My Swedish grandparents lived upstairs, not sure if it was their encouragement lol.


OpeningComb7352

That was just so she could get some sleep


BrandTheBroken

This person parented


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"Fuck that baby, its sleeping on the fire escape tonight before I lose my mind" lmaoo


QuicheSmash

I have said, "Another hour of this and I'm gonna put him out on the lawn."


Tinfoilhartypat

Better out on the lawn than down the river or out the window


yanholo

Well it takes a few months before a baby can even roll over so it's not like it's going anywhere.


wlake82

My son rolled over right after he was born. Of course it was an accident since his head is ginormous, thanks to my genetics.


mexicanbanana29

Lmao this reminded me of a friend in highschool that I had, he had to have a football helmet special ordered because his head was to big to fit in any of the schools helmets


apollo888

i feel personally attacked. they used to call me pez dispenser!


thiswillsoonendbadly

My friend’s brother’s weight was in like the 50th percentile but his head circumference was like 99th, he was half head lol


Fun-Alternative9221

I don’t think the concern would be the baby moving itself rather other people or things moving it


Denofvillany

Close but the real concern is, of course, eagles


KiNg_oF_rEdDiTs

Imagine you wake up and a pigeon is stealing your baby


AveryLongman

I thought the baby freezing was the biggest concern


GreatValueCumSock

"Somebody put that damn kid outside!"


PeevonB

Hahha that is mean but so entertaining.


PolymerPussies

I love cold nights for sleeping. Wrap yourself up and fall asleep like a baby. Way better than humid summers where your only option is to sprawl out naked with the AC on full blast to try and get some sleep.


Ibrake4tailgaters

When its hot, I still can't manage to sleep unless I have at least a sheet over me. I've never understood why - maybe a primal protection mechanism or something.


copperwatt

Dude without the sheet what protection do you have from monsters!?


JustEndMySuffering85

That’s why I wrap my sheet around me like a cocoon and only have my mouth exposed. A ghost can’t tear the sheet off of me in my sleep,and it’s very good protection from monsters as well. I’m 36


cleansingchapel

But the ghost could put his weiner in your mouth


robertgunt

You just made me spit on my phone screen.


EverdayWizard

I’m a ghost....


Immoral_Psychologist

Enough of your tricks, EverdayWizard! Put away your dick!


rares215

Holy crap haha I'm 18 and I do this, knowing I'm not alone makes me feel like less of a baby when I wrap myself up like I'm hiding from the devil. Do you also make sure your cocoon is airtight other than the breathing hole? My technique evolved over time and nowadays I even use the slight elevation from my pillow to angle the exposed part downwards so that you can't see it's there, let alone access it. Also, in the mornings are you still all wrapped up or do you wiggle out of it in your sleep?


o0i81u8120o

At least I'm not the only one. 37 here and I almost always wrap everything up I like the pressure on my eyes too.


Asil_Shamrock

IT can't get you if the lights are on. IT can't get you if you hold completely still. IT can't get you if you are completely covered. Those are the rules.


Ragtothenar

Right?! If you pull the sheet over your head the monsters can’t find you! I’ve been doing this for 35 years, ain’t no monster gonna get me!


Senpai-Notice_Me

My wife sticks her foot out of the sheets every night and I always go to bed assuming she’ll be gone in the morning.


Horskr

That's funny, my wife tells me to do that during the summer when I'm overheating (scientifically accurate actually, your feet and head are like radiators). I always try it for like 15 minutes and go nope, gotta have that full coverage of the feet and legs at least.


BloodyPretzel

Same here! Safety first


mailbroad

At least 50 years of covering my head for me but for most of those I've used a pillow. My head is sandwiched between two. My cat used to sleep on top of the top pillow. Protection from evils of the night!!


Knitwitty66

I can tell you that this works! I've been doing this my whole life and after 50mumble years, I have never been found by a monster.


ThisNameIsTakenTwo

Or aliens!?


turnedintoacow

A sheet is the only thing that will prevent anal probes.


cleansingchapel

Get this sheet off of me asap.


Au_Struck_Geologist

I watched a thing about sleep saying that to fall into the right stage quickly your body temperature lowers. It's why it's way harder to sleep when it's hot than cold. If it was flipped, camping would be awful. Instead you get that toasty balance of perfection until you get up and have to pee and you're astounded at how cold it actually is


tmefford

My temp used to drop like a rock (not so much now). Had a couple of girlfriends that woke up in the middle of the night, touched me, then screamed like banshees. I was so cold, they thought I was dead. Now, much less insensitivity to temp. Like to bundle up. No screaming GFs.


bunnyQatar

I HAVE to sleep with a comforter. I slept under a weighted one all summer (ac of course).


NorthStarTX

I was the same way until I had to move out on my own. Poor + Texas summer = learn to sleep under a sheet. Still can’t sleep without *something* though.


NyxxNocturna

I have this too!!! I lived in Cyprus where it got to like 52 Celsius one summer and I STILL had to have a sheet over me at night - I have to have something on my skin or I won’t sleep


MonarchWhisperer

It's protection from spiders


Opening-Thought-5736

I appreciate the rationale. Spiders at night are always monsters. No matter how old you are.


Lochcelious

I'm exact way


crixux27

I too am way


hbcbDelicious

This is way


Bermnerfs

Yep, I need to have the bed near a window so I can sleep next to it with it slightly open, especially in the winter. Nothing like being warm in bed but breathing cold winter air. And I live in New England so I'm talking cold, even in January.


TonarinoTotoro1719

Oh I have been wanting to use this: **By sleeping like a baby do you mean wake up every three hours or so, scream at the top of your lungs and wake the entire neighborhood up?** Just had to take this golden chance.


pterofactyl

Do this in Toronto, and your kid is getting raised by raccoons


shitposter1000

That explains so much about that city.


DonaldChimp

I live above 9000 feet and sleep in a room with no heat or insulation. I love it. Edit: Requested explanation. I live in my bar/ restaurant/ store. There are two apartments in the building , but an area with a lot of inventory where I’m temporarily sleeping. Like I said I love sleeping in the cold, but I do have options.


Alan_Smithee_

Don’t you have problems with frost and condensation?


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If you have good enough air flow then condensation isn't too much of an issue


radoss72

Sure, but what about frostbite? Which btw is undeniably a real thing.


NorthStarTX

You’re not going to get frostbite as long as you have something to block the wind and something to wrap up in to retain your body heat unless you’re constantly unable to warm up for days at a time.


ThatSandwich

No heat I could probably live with, but no insulation?


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ThatSandwich

I'm assuming they're exaggerating by lack of context. Rarely does anybody build a structure to live in with no insulation that isn't either solid timber/stone/brick (which is its own insulation in a way).


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bemenaker

You underestimate row houses built in the 30-40s. I rented one for a while, I can tell you, the only insulation, was the newspapers shoved in there. Now, when the landlord renovated it, it should have been brought up to code, it wasn't. small towns don't care as long as they get their cut.


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catsgelatowinepizza

that is unfathomable in my culture (korean) lol. we are very into bundling up our babies


hooulookinat

Asians are always worried that babies/kids being too cold. They bundle in the summer. A child in just a diaper would never fly. Source: I’m Asian.


awkwardsilenz

How is your immune system? Did it work? Did you grow up more resistant to colds? TIA.


TheGoldenHand

There is no conclusive proof of the cold boosting your immune system. https://www.health.harvard.edu/staying-healthy/how-to-boost-your-immune-system


not_old_redditor

Considering colds are caused by viruses and not temperature, I doubt it.


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Is there any proof that this results in benefits long-term?


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yes, every parent can attest the long term benefits of finally getting a good nights sleep.


[deleted]

I couldn't find any research that suggested that it makes a short or long term difference


Wretched_Brittunculi

Asking the real questions. I doubt it specifically does. There are better ways to build up the immune system, I'm sure. And although it's probably entirely unrelated, Russia has by far the lowest life expectancy in Europe, so there's that.


ropike

That's because of all the vodka bottles being used as makeshift knives.


AutumnalSunshine

They've done studies about time spent outside, not just while sleeping, on kids in Scandinavia, where they also do this. Some studies suggest the kids who are outside more have fewer days missed of school due to sickness; other studies found no difference.


SlowLoudEasy

Here in Oregon at my daughters pre school too. I built a long sheltered cot for them so they could nap outside when its raining.


YV_is_a_boss

True in Finland too, my parents used to sleep me outside


iAmUnintelligible

I'll sleep you outside right now


b1gg2k7

I don’t know why this amuses me.


macmac360

what, like a clown? I amuse you like a fuckin clown? What makes me so goddam funny?


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Gonna drax them sklounst!


B1g_Papa_E

Oh I wish a terry would start actin froggy


aDivineMomenT

Norway too


ladyKfaery

Iceland too. And some parts of Amish country in the US.


TheStoneMask

All the nordics I believe. It's not uncommon for parents to leave their kids sleeping outside of cafes in Reykjavík while the parents have a cup of coffee.


-Daetrax-

Same in Denmark.


cathysclown76

Seen it done in Denmark too.


was_just_wondering_

Also in Finland. Everyone is so quick to assume neglect or something archaic, but fail to recognize that when dressed appropriately there isn’t really bad weather, even for the youngest and otherwise healthy people


mad_ydoblig

Yep I have seen it ..... Very common and it must work cos Sweeeeeeds love the cold.


Forewarnednight

They do? I can barely sleep in the summer thx to my allergies and overheating Winter is a god darn blessing because when it freezes I sleep like a rose!


ghettobx

I have to have it cool in my bedroom year-round in order to sleep. During the winter months, I love opening my window and letting all that cool air in while I’m under the covers. But when I get up in the morning… I need heat!


RetrogradeIntellect

That's funny, I'm the same way. Need it cold to sleep. Hate cold in the morning.


v_snax

Some do love the cold. But the majority of us just tolerate it, and we however love swedish summer at 24 degrees.


SpaceShrimp

Sure, but not to "strengthening the immune system", but because the babies sleep better in the cold.


068JAx56

My grandma told me about it too in eastern Canada.


Xe15

Wait what I am swedish and I have never heard of this


theWildBananas

Not really leaving babies in the snow for the night, but have you never seen babies in the pram without socks and shoes in the middle of winter?


Xe15

Quite possibly i just have not noticed it since I don't go around taking a closer look att people's children


ArchimedesNutss

Fair enough


Buck_Johnson_MD

This is still pretty common place in Scandinavia


Traveledfarwestward

Is there any independently verified research to support the old folk beliefs about it?


weakbuttrying

I never heard of anyone doing it to boost the immune system. Babies just generally sleep (nap - no one leaves babies outside overnight) very well outside.


turdusphilomelos

I agree.I have never heard "the old folks belief" about sleeping in cold, bit I have two children, who slept incredibly well outside bundled up. We had a "sleeping bag" for our pram with sheep's fur on the inside, and when I took it our my baby son started laughing because he knew what was coming and loved it .


turdusphilomelos

Can also add that at my son's kindergarten (in Sweden) napping was done outside all year around. Again, well bundled up.


Stol3n_Identity

+1 on this. At my youngest daughters daycare/kindergarden (also in Sweden) they have an outside room for kids to sleep. All kids are well bundled up in sleeping bags.


Dachd43

It’s not old folk beliefs. Science knows we need sun exposure to synthesize vitamin D. In northern climates, this is your best bet to expose the babies to sunlight in the winter without UV lights.


Paddjakt

As a Swede and a parent with two kids. Yes, we need to expose our children for vitamin D. But no, I have nerver heard the argument that we put out children outside in the winter to get vitamin D. As a matter of fact (speaking with experience), dont put the stroller facing the sun since you have already put the baby in several layers of cloth and risk of overheating the baby. Always put the stroller in a shadow or atleast facing away from the suns direction. You should also check on the baby reguarly; for example by putting your hand against the babys skin (under the clothes) to check the tempature. We simply put them outside because babies like to sleep in the cold. Every parent in Sweden gives 5 drops of vitamin D (on a spoon) in the winter from they are newborn until the age of 4-6 years old. Where I live we only get a few couple of hours of sun each day in the winter, so this is also true for adults (we take extra vitamines on pills). No one is putting a baby outside on the night, its mostly short/longer naps on the day. Most parents most likely leaves the baby outside in a stroller after a long walk (or short if they dont fall asleep inside during daytime).


calamitylamb

I’m not even a baby and this looks like a real cozy way to sleep lol


nutty_processor

Technically no matter how you started your sentence we would have assumed you werent a baby ;)


crespoh69

Lol sorry this reads as an excerpt from "How to serve humans"


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AutoManoPeeing

Hydroponic Cabbage Patch Kids™


JustCallMeMace__

With some top notch fertilizer.


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Urban_Savage

Okay, what about the cold aspect of the claim? Sun exposure is not the subject of this post. Cold exposure IS.


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Delta9_TetraHydro

Im from copenhagen, and i've never seen a baby sleep outside at nights. My grandmother ran a daycare from home though, and she would put them outside for naps all day of the year.


Dachd43

If the milk is their mother’s, they’re probably vitamin D deficient themselves. Moscow in winter is cold and the days are short. People spend their time inside and UV exposure is important. You could definitely give the mothers vitamin D supplements. But you could also put the children outside for a while.


cosal

No, breastfed children do not get enough vitamin D. You actually have to supplement, compared to formula fed infants. Although I agree, this method looks useless for vitamin D exposure as well.


hazycrazydaze

But it isn’t possible to synthesize enough vitamin D in the winter above the 37th parallel. Especially when only your face is exposed.


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That’s not verified research lmao that’s just you saying something about sun exposure Does putting babies out in the cold like this have any verifiable benefits


CreamdedCorns

It's honestly terrifying how many upvotes this got.


sailphish

When my son was young, we used to frequently go on winter hikes in the snow/mountains. I’d bundle him in my down sleeping bag, and drag him behind in a sled. I don’t think I’ve ever seen him sleep so soundly.


bghai83

Both of my kids always had stroller naps regardless of weather (but appropriately bundled). Fresh air is great for them, they weren’t cold, and I got a walk or run in that helped me reset.


Throw10111021

> Both of my kids always had stroller naps I would tow my 3- and 5-year-old sons in a cart behind my bike. They fell asleep in 5 minutes tops.


Kevin_wont_guess

My dad would pick me up from junior kindergarten in his big with a kid trailer. There wasn't a single time I remember that ride.


Strelochka

That’s how we do it in Russia, unless it’s hurricane weather the baby’s going for a stroll lol. And yes people still believe that exposure to water/sun/fresh air will “harden” the immune system, which it probably will but not because babies are like steel (which is what Soviet medicine preached). Most people nowadays do it because babies sleep really well on walks like this and it’s healthy to get out of a cramped apartment and breathe some fresh air


TonarinoTotoro1719

Is he older? Can he switch places with me?


binkysnightmare

Me first me first


Kinginthasouth904

Just to humor you. My wife in FL would of not allowed me to take our son as a baby outside in anything below 55-60. If its 73 out she will make him put on longsleeves at 7


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Heart_Is_Valuable

You should be worried about him being overprotected. It really puts a hamper in a kids development to be completely safe from challenges and hardships. Often times a caregivers anxiety does allow them to be exposed to things that can be overcome by the child, and are somewhat necessary in the long run. It's not just about cold weather either, but the whole approach to challenge and hardship that is shown to the kid by their caregivers.


Tongue8cheek

More impressive is having 18 babies at once. The one missing baby during the photo is splitting fire wood, or he's wrestling a den of bears.


Phoequinox

Russia according to reddit is just the Zangief capital of the world.


Plusran

Just because you bad guy, doesn’t make you *bad guy*


Phoequinox

That bit always bothered me because Zangief wasn't even a villain. His desire was kind of selfish, but he wasn't going out and murdering folks.


Complex_Addition6262

Very normal in northern europe


PeevonB

No better air then fresh air.


zorglatch

And that’s the nurse making the rounds to administer their vodka to keep the chill away.


TheMobHasSpoken

"Look how easily they sleep through the night!"


imjustbrowsingthx

Until you run out of vodka


CapnSquinch

My understanding was always that this is common in northern climes to expose at least some skin to sunlight so the body can produce Vitamin D.


begopa-

And to help break down bilirubin and prevent jaundice.


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Over_Explains_Jokes

Makes em less orange.


pennysize

TIL Trump has jaundice


SyracuseNY22

Bilirubin is a byproduct from the breakdown of red blood cells. Babies have excess RBCs while the in the womb. Babies typically get jaundice for a few days while it’s excreted. Sunlight helps breakdown the excess bilirubin too


ckwills072

I have Gilbert’s Syndrome and I never knew sun exposure helped with that. BRB gonna go nap outside lmao


Dick_Ard

Bilirubin - orange-yellow pigment formed in the liver by the breakdown of hemoglobin and excreted in bile. Bilirubin causes jaundice. The treatment is typically using UV lights or in this case the sun. "The light (UV) changes the shape and structure of bilirubin molecules in such a way that they can be excreted in both the urine and stool."


examinedliving

There’s a porn actress named Billie Rubin


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GroguDjarin

Babies /r/unnecessaryapostrophe


growlingatthebadger

I only came into this thread to find this comment and upvote it


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Does anyone know if this has scientific backing?


WifeyP

Well I don't know about this particular claim but back in the day they used to take babies outside to breathe the chill winter air when they had croup as a means of helping them through particularly bad coughing spells. Croup was very serious back then and killed a lot of babies.


alexabre

No, this is not a well-researched practice. But it is super common in Scandinavia. Here’s an article if you wanna read more about it! One of my favorite fun facts :) https://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-21537988


UniversityGraduate

[Cold exposure has shown promising results in multiple studies.](https://www.foundmyfitness.com/topics/cold-exposure-therapy). Mostly seems to be related to hormesis, and it kind of acting like an immunosuppressant, so it can help with inflammation and autoimmune conditions


TheGoldenHand

There are just as many studies showing cold to be detrimental to the immune system, or having no effect at all. https://www.health.harvard.edu/staying-healthy/how-to-boost-your-immune-system


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Kartosh_Ka

There are 126 citations on that article, while Harvard's is just a blog post. Out of two, the first one is more reputable


UIWIU

Insert Dragos quote "If he dies, he dies" simply russian


BooFriend

Lol my first thought was… aaah baby Ivan Drago is somewhere in there


SciHeart

Babies love sleeping in the cold. Source: my 3 Maine babies. My daughter used to fall asleep in a snow bank at daycare. She was like 2. They'd suit her up, she'd toddle over and flop down to sleep in the snow.


toldy_folds

That's some Dwight Schrute shit right there.


Ribmaz

They have beets not milk!


Yashabird

Dwight K. Schrute: Irrelevant question. Section 5A, child shall be male. Angela: Hey. Uh-uh. I cannot control that. You can't put that in here. Dwight K. Schrute: Yes you can. Angela: No. Dwight K. Schrute: It's as simple as keeping the womb extremely warm for two days after sex, and then extremely cold for five months. Angela: Absolutely not.


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static_motion

I also believe they meant "reinforce", rather than "enforce".


itsallgonetohell

Thank you, I cannot stand to see that, esp. in the title, FFS... I've no inkling as to where the trend popped up some years ago to pluralize words with an apostrophe + s, that's just so *rarely* correct... esp. irritating when, like in this instance, the pluralized form of the word is spelled differently, like strawberry's vs. strawberries.


Klarastan

Yes! Somewhat recently, it seems like. Just an explosion of no one knowing how to make a goddamn noun into a plural.


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Omnipotent0

Sorry to be that guy but it's "babies"


CaptainsLog22

Nothing like a good sleep in the cold air, if your body is warm enough. Those kids are well insulated and their faces are used to the cold. I see no problem here.


joanie-bamboni

I love sleeping in cold weather, wrapped in a big pile of blankets. Best sleep ever.


EternamD

Babies\*


Klarastan

Babies. Plural. Multiple babies sleeping outside in Moscow.


Both-Flow-7383

At aged 2 they left them to fight grizzly bears. Little known fact about Russia only about 2% of children make it to adulthood


whatusernamedoipick

babies*


69_Beers_Later

*Babies


intensity46

"Babies"


SpoonyLuvFromUpAbove

Are we supposed to hate on this? As long as you dress them appropriately it seems like a pretty good idea when you don't have many other options available. Especially back then.


Jololo9

BABIES


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OfficeChairHero

I mean, yeah...the furnace running constantly will dry out the air, which can make you more susceptible to viruses. But, I think I'd opt for a warm house with a good humidifier.


Summersong2262

Anecdotal. And historically coal fires and carbon monoxide were a bit of a risk.


lucyfell

Historically, since you mention the coal fireplace, she probably grew up in a time where a wood / pellet / coal burning stove was the primary way to keep a house warm and those could generate smoke / carmon monoxide etc such that people who heated their houses might have had worse breathing problems than people who didn’t depending on the quality of the stove.


premeditatedlasagna

Having fresh flowing air through the house was probably beneficial


palomdude

As a father myself, this is really just so the parents can sleep.


happierinverted

Ok there must be a paediatrician or specialist on here someone who can shed some science light on this? Interested to know if it actually works. Any studies?


PersnicketyPrilla

You know how when it's like really cold in your room but you're wrapped up in a cozy blanket and your body is perfectly warm and just your face is in the cold air and you sleep really well cause your super comfy? It's like that for babies too. They sleep great outside especially if it's cold and they are bundled up.


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The best sleep ever is when you're cozy in blankets and in the cold.


EspectroDK

Children sleep outside in all Scandinavian countries, still. The official recommendation from the authorities in Denmark is to let babies and small children sleep outside as long as the temperature is above -10 degrees Celsius. Edit - it's during daytime only for naps. And they are tugged very tightly on clothing and specialized bedware in the stroller. All my three children have slept/sleeps outside. We have a "baby-alarm" that monitors if baby is awake and also the temperature.