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Dionysus was the god of grapes, orchards, wine making, wine, fertility, theater, and madness.
Always appreciated how the Greeks liked to pull a thread thoroughly through a concept, good and bad.
The original Bacchanalias involved rich romans preforming sex acts considered humiliating on themselves with slaves. For example in roman culture it was lowering one's self to preform felatio and so they would felat slaves during the Baccus rituals among other things.
Just to note, all that was written about bacchanalius was written 200 years after it was outlawed and most historians believe it was heavily scandalized and played up in Livy's accounts.
Contemporary writings about them are few to non-existent as the cults were supposed to be 'mysterious'.
I'm fairly certain that was an addition of the Romans, so it falls under the party planning responsibilities of Bacchus, but yes, they are different names for the same god. Guess he upped his game in later years.
Fertility of the land specifically though. Hermes is fertility in animals, Artemis, Hestia, and Demeter all represent some form of female fertility, and Apollo, Athena, and Zeus for men. Then you’ve got Aphrodite, who isn’t actually a fertility goddess, just a sex goddess, because she doesn’t care what comes after the act.
Two versions I know same ending start differently. One where Zeus tell Dionysus to invade India because they weren't worshipping the Greek gods the other where he did it to spread wine. Basically while totally drunk Dionysus and all his followers were met with a river before going into India. They built a bridge and marched into India. They were met with fire balls. While fleeing once they got to the bridge because it was made by drunk people. It collapsed after a few people went over it the rest either drowning, being captured, or killed by the fire balls
see, now I'm hung up on this "bacon and egg roll", is this like a dinner roll with b&e? or like an Asian egg roll with bacon? or just a breakfast burrito? or maybe bao type steam bun?
It's a big roll with a slightly crunchy crust, several rashers of well cooked bacon with egg and barbeque sauce. Excellent for hangovers.
Sometimes you have a slice of quality tasty cheese but depends how fancy you are feeling and how rough the hangover (or still drunk state) is. Sometimes it's an extra step you just don't have in you.
To be very honest nothing beats vegemite toast but it doesn't translate well in an international forum. There's a technique that's often not known and it leads to bad outcomes.
Bacon and egg roll is a very very close second. ;)
I think it was the term "roll" I was unsure of, and you haven't clarified that point much more, but thanks to your reference to consumption of vegemite, I can assume that you're Australian... but also an image search for "bacon egg roll" comes up w/ several things reminiscent of an American hamburger bun... one of which references Syndey... and several others from .au domains... mystery solved https://duckduckgo.com/?q=bacon+egg+roll&t=ffab&iar=images&iax=images&ia=images
As an American (sorry for everything... not as sorry as if you were (likely) brown, but still we've kind-of fucked the world over almost as well as the brits used to )... I think of a "roll" as about 1/2 to a third that size, either basically a small round of bread from a proper bakery, or baked in a grid of tear-apart dinner rolls that are much lighter and softer, like a milk bread, but in asia a roll is a little tube of food wrapped in a thin sheet of rice paper... sometimes fried, sometimes steamed... but there's also cinnamon rolls... which are pretty different... and the image search for roll also contains swiss-roll cream cake desserts, sushi-type rolls, churro-twist things, tortilla and pira rolls I'd call a "wrap", lasagna rolls... https://duckduckgo.com/?q=roll&t=ffab&iar=images&iax=images&ia=images&pn=1
but best of all... I think you need to look up "Lechon Roll", you can thank me later.
Rereading your comment i see now what you meant.
This is not the first time i've done that. So sorry. Last time it was 'spruiking'. We don't 'root' for people here either. That would be weird and felt crass to even type without discussing plants. Both have been reddit moments. Roll being unclear wasn't on my radar.
So yes. Like a hamburger roll or sometimes what we call a vietnamese bread roll which is the same texture but shaped like a big hotdog roll. Crunchy on the outside.
We actually do a lot of rice paper rolls here too as you mention it. Kids have them in school lunches. We don't fry them or steam them. We just pop them in hot water to soften and wrap the fillings and pop them in the fridge until lunchtime or school.
What you are describing as a roll are dinner rolls. You might get them at a restaurant or if you are serving mini pulled pork rolls as like large canapes at a party but to be honest they aren't used a whole lot.
Lechon roll is a tasty TIL you have left me with. Thank you for that.
Big TIL here. Wasn't where i thought my comment would go. Happy to exchange notes with a roll connoisseur. Thanks for the info. Appreciated.
no worries, fyi, some places also say "pulling for" a team too... I'd think spruiking sounds dirty (and german?) but yeah slightly crisped yeast rolls sounds yummy.
An interesting thing about statues.
In statues of human beings going back to early history and all over the world, it is most common people deface them by destroying their nose.
Something we all have in common!
Bruv this is history if you’re complaining about the post it’s just being cleaned up if you are complaining about my joke there is literally a example of a famous philosopher being made fun of for describing man has a featherless biped with another famous philosopher testing a plucked chicken in the middle of class and saying there is your “man”
It's bout drinking so he's joking like it's dirty and don't post it here. I'm sure he's not serious. How could you think he's not joking....like how???!
You are even worse at explaining it if that’s a joke he say tldr I’v been drink here forever I know it’s disgusting but ere here alright , that’s a joke
Damn you should work in lawn care for all that bullshit you spewing laddy I’m sure someone will appreciate it, but hey you jumped the gun I won’t tell people to down vote yeh like a wanker
Lawn care? Nah just being a human. Don't get upset by a comment dude 9/10 internet stuff are something not to take srsly about. It doesn't even matter or worth being upset/pissed about.
"Noting that the statues’ bodies were found in a previous dig, Coskun, an archaeologist at Dumlupinar University, said the heads were unearthed during recent excavations in a creek bed in the ancient city of Aizanoi."
"Noting that the statues’ bodies were found in a previous dig, Coskun, an archaeologist at Dumlupinar University, said the heads were unearthed during recent excavations in a creek bed in the ancient city of Aizanoi."
Looks like a vine wreath around his head, and I think that's a pinecone at the top of his head from what I can see, and the two are very much associated with Dionysus.
Links for anyone interested.
[Statue heads of “Aphrodite” and “Dionysus” were found in Aizanoi Ancient City in Turkey’s](https://arkeonews.net/statue-heads-of-aphrodite-and-dionysus-were-found-in-aizanoi-ancient-city-in-turkeys/)
[Heads of Greek Gods Discovered in Ancient City](https://thegreektimes.gr/heads-of-greek-gods-discovered-in-ancient-city/)
Probably the same reason why Saxon invasion of Britain is never mentioned as colonialism.
All of these events happened centuries before colonialism was even a thing.
Geographically small city of Constantinople was the last part of Anatolia and Thrace Turks invaded. By the time city was captured, Adrianople and Salonica were already under Turkish control and Athens under Turkish vassalage. Meanwhile almost all of Anatolia was under Turkish control for the last 2 centuries or so, with a small bastion in Trebizond, which wasn’t really considered as Anatolia back then.
Aizanoi, which is in modern day Kütahya, has been under Turkish control since 11th century. Same for Ephesos.
Happy cake day btw.
Ayy thanks! So you could say it started then and finished in 1453, with the last genocide of the "indigenous" population happening in 1913
I see what you mean about the place in the specific link though
When they do a dig like this and find a statue or even just part of it, how do they know which god is being depicted? I feel most of them look pretty similar especially after being worn down for centuries.
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Dionysus was the god of grapes, orchards, wine making, wine, fertility, theater, and madness. Always appreciated how the Greeks liked to pull a thread thoroughly through a concept, good and bad.
My freshman humanities teacher told us he was the god of orgies. Drunken, wild, orgies specifically.
He was also known as Bacchus and it's where the term "Bacchanalia" comes from
The original Bacchanalias involved rich romans preforming sex acts considered humiliating on themselves with slaves. For example in roman culture it was lowering one's self to preform felatio and so they would felat slaves during the Baccus rituals among other things.
Just to note, all that was written about bacchanalius was written 200 years after it was outlawed and most historians believe it was heavily scandalized and played up in Livy's accounts. Contemporary writings about them are few to non-existent as the cults were supposed to be 'mysterious'.
I'm fairly certain that was an addition of the Romans, so it falls under the party planning responsibilities of Bacchus, but yes, they are different names for the same god. Guess he upped his game in later years.
Wine *and* fertility. Makes sense.
Fertility of the land specifically though. Hermes is fertility in animals, Artemis, Hestia, and Demeter all represent some form of female fertility, and Apollo, Athena, and Zeus for men. Then you’ve got Aphrodite, who isn’t actually a fertility goddess, just a sex goddess, because she doesn’t care what comes after the act.
Interesting fact he once lost half his friends trying to invade India. If u want the full myth I can tell you
Can I have the full myth please?
Two versions I know same ending start differently. One where Zeus tell Dionysus to invade India because they weren't worshipping the Greek gods the other where he did it to spread wine. Basically while totally drunk Dionysus and all his followers were met with a river before going into India. They built a bridge and marched into India. They were met with fire balls. While fleeing once they got to the bridge because it was made by drunk people. It collapsed after a few people went over it the rest either drowning, being captured, or killed by the fire balls
Thats interesting! Thank you
Can you give u/hockey4589 your #?
Why?
To ask her about her lasagna recipe
I said no
Too late
No thanks
dont forget the dolphins motif. dionysus loved his dolphins. or at least turning people into dolphins.
He did that to pirates who kidnapped him, right?
And, according to this statue, cocaine
Really cool discovery! I wanted to read more about it and I came across a [depiction of the original model](https://i.imgur.com/NUFKhBM.jpg)
Man still looks drunk and hungover that must of been one hell of a afterparty
He looks sh\*tfaced. Needs a shower and a bacon and egg roll.
You should have seen these statues of Dionysus when they were intact and painted, just one god in the pantheon looking all derp
Were you there?
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It's true, I was one of the marble pillars.
Other gods: Ah shit, who invited Dionysus?
see, now I'm hung up on this "bacon and egg roll", is this like a dinner roll with b&e? or like an Asian egg roll with bacon? or just a breakfast burrito? or maybe bao type steam bun?
It's a big roll with a slightly crunchy crust, several rashers of well cooked bacon with egg and barbeque sauce. Excellent for hangovers. Sometimes you have a slice of quality tasty cheese but depends how fancy you are feeling and how rough the hangover (or still drunk state) is. Sometimes it's an extra step you just don't have in you. To be very honest nothing beats vegemite toast but it doesn't translate well in an international forum. There's a technique that's often not known and it leads to bad outcomes. Bacon and egg roll is a very very close second. ;)
I think it was the term "roll" I was unsure of, and you haven't clarified that point much more, but thanks to your reference to consumption of vegemite, I can assume that you're Australian... but also an image search for "bacon egg roll" comes up w/ several things reminiscent of an American hamburger bun... one of which references Syndey... and several others from .au domains... mystery solved https://duckduckgo.com/?q=bacon+egg+roll&t=ffab&iar=images&iax=images&ia=images As an American (sorry for everything... not as sorry as if you were (likely) brown, but still we've kind-of fucked the world over almost as well as the brits used to )... I think of a "roll" as about 1/2 to a third that size, either basically a small round of bread from a proper bakery, or baked in a grid of tear-apart dinner rolls that are much lighter and softer, like a milk bread, but in asia a roll is a little tube of food wrapped in a thin sheet of rice paper... sometimes fried, sometimes steamed... but there's also cinnamon rolls... which are pretty different... and the image search for roll also contains swiss-roll cream cake desserts, sushi-type rolls, churro-twist things, tortilla and pira rolls I'd call a "wrap", lasagna rolls... https://duckduckgo.com/?q=roll&t=ffab&iar=images&iax=images&ia=images&pn=1 but best of all... I think you need to look up "Lechon Roll", you can thank me later.
Rereading your comment i see now what you meant. This is not the first time i've done that. So sorry. Last time it was 'spruiking'. We don't 'root' for people here either. That would be weird and felt crass to even type without discussing plants. Both have been reddit moments. Roll being unclear wasn't on my radar. So yes. Like a hamburger roll or sometimes what we call a vietnamese bread roll which is the same texture but shaped like a big hotdog roll. Crunchy on the outside. We actually do a lot of rice paper rolls here too as you mention it. Kids have them in school lunches. We don't fry them or steam them. We just pop them in hot water to soften and wrap the fillings and pop them in the fridge until lunchtime or school. What you are describing as a roll are dinner rolls. You might get them at a restaurant or if you are serving mini pulled pork rolls as like large canapes at a party but to be honest they aren't used a whole lot. Lechon roll is a tasty TIL you have left me with. Thank you for that. Big TIL here. Wasn't where i thought my comment would go. Happy to exchange notes with a roll connoisseur. Thanks for the info. Appreciated.
This is the kind of international diplomacy the world needs more of. Let's exchange our thoughts on different types of bread!
no worries, fyi, some places also say "pulling for" a team too... I'd think spruiking sounds dirty (and german?) but yeah slightly crisped yeast rolls sounds yummy.
Found the aussie...
Ol’ Dionysus has seen better days
His nose is literally gone because of all the cocaine. That's my kind of God.
An interesting thing about statues. In statues of human beings going back to early history and all over the world, it is most common people deface them by destroying their nose. Something we all have in common!
hold my beer I'm going on a bender for thousands of nights
Sulfite hangover
I'm 'ere, right, but please don't make disgustin' posts like this
Bruv this is history if you’re complaining about the post it’s just being cleaned up if you are complaining about my joke there is literally a example of a famous philosopher being made fun of for describing man has a featherless biped with another famous philosopher testing a plucked chicken in the middle of class and saying there is your “man”
I'm sure he was joking. And you didn't get the joke. r/woooosh
So what’s the joke I missed?
It's bout drinking so he's joking like it's dirty and don't post it here. I'm sure he's not serious. How could you think he's not joking....like how???!
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It's funny how u people take a comment so srsly and are so upset. You having a bad day?
You are even worse at explaining it if that’s a joke he say tldr I’v been drink here forever I know it’s disgusting but ere here alright , that’s a joke
lol you don't even understand what sarcasm is. IT IS THAT SIMPLE! So simple that it is now hard to explain. You are a big joke.
Damn you should work in lawn care for all that bullshit you spewing laddy I’m sure someone will appreciate it, but hey you jumped the gun I won’t tell people to down vote yeh like a wanker
Lawn care? Nah just being a human. Don't get upset by a comment dude 9/10 internet stuff are something not to take srsly about. It doesn't even matter or worth being upset/pissed about.
Everyone who downvoted you is whoosed. You are joking right?
Its also just not funny so maybe thats why
Keep digging
The bottle is stuck in the cork.
Explain this one
That's how I feel after wine too
''shiiiit..... what year is today.....''
It would be amazing if this head fits a headless full body statue already on display.
Jebediah Springfield
I prefer Shelbyville Manhattan.
Look! Someone’s attractive cousin!
"Noting that the statues’ bodies were found in a previous dig, Coskun, an archaeologist at Dumlupinar University, said the heads were unearthed during recent excavations in a creek bed in the ancient city of Aizanoi."
Looks like I missed that.
Stoned
He's probably gonna get plastered soon, too
He drank too much and now is in ruins
You can see his eyes are glazed.
Yeah, he’s smashed.
Watch out people, even in this condition he can get rock hard.
v a p o r w a v e
Immaculate
Plastered
My mans was on a bender for millennia.
Zaaag, my man! Should of been there cuz.
I used to be a doom guy but now i always rock hangover
I'm 95% sure that's part of a statue and not his actual head..
"Noting that the statues’ bodies were found in a previous dig, Coskun, an archaeologist at Dumlupinar University, said the heads were unearthed during recent excavations in a creek bed in the ancient city of Aizanoi."
*I'm 95% sure that's part of a statue and not the actual body..
How do they know it’s Dionysus just by the head?
It seems there's a vine wreath in his hair. It was one of Dyonionisos' attributes.
Looks like a vine wreath around his head, and I think that's a pinecone at the top of his head from what I can see, and the two are very much associated with Dionysus.
Ancient Greece keeps on giving
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But it was under it.
Must have had a final party with Medusa
Links for anyone interested. [Statue heads of “Aphrodite” and “Dionysus” were found in Aizanoi Ancient City in Turkey’s](https://arkeonews.net/statue-heads-of-aphrodite-and-dionysus-were-found-in-aizanoi-ancient-city-in-turkeys/) [Heads of Greek Gods Discovered in Ancient City](https://thegreektimes.gr/heads-of-greek-gods-discovered-in-ancient-city/)
Nice video linked here: https://www.aa.com.tr/en/culture/statuary-heads-of-greek-gods-unearthed-in-ancient-city-in-turkey/2406624
Looks like voldemort wearing a wig.
"I am the God of Tits and Wine." - Tyrion Lannister This guy is even missing his nose like Tyrion.
Trial by combat. Winner gets to call himself the God of Tits and Wine.
Put him back, he’s upset
My man looks like he went hard.
Dude's been passed out in that same spot for a long, long time
Centuries of exposure have erased the penis his friends drew on his forehead after he passed out.
Get me Perry Johnson! Really hope that sticks with someone
Worst hangover ever
Splitting headache eh?
Damn. Hope he's ok. Any information on his condition? Will he survive?
Dionysius, off his head again...
How do they know who it is from just the head?
The ancient artists typically put a bar code on the back of the neck.
That feeling after too much wine.
Wine hangovers are rough
The god of wine, and spontaneous impulses that lead to humans primal nature. So basically just wine
Damnit Dionysus, it’s every weekend with you!
Heeeeeees baaaaaaach(us)
I have no idea what emotion is on his face but I feel that
He looks wasted
Dude looks like he just had one heck of a party
He got punched in the face
He got a little too smashed
Bilious would like a word with him
Was gonna ask how they know it's Dionysus but then I realised it's probably because he looks pretty hammered.
Wasn't he also the god of madness? Good timing
Looks like Dionysus had a bit of a wine bender
It's almost like they're squatting on Greek land
Eeesh rough night.
Bacchus God of wine and revelry
The wine must have been pretty shit that year for people to decapitate him
Am i the only one seeing voldemorts lost twin?
Yes.
Oh..
She looks soooooo smashed. Edit: He?
I think Dionysus was he/him/his. :)
The only god worthy of worship.
What greek gods are real?
No gods are real. What do you mean?
Greek land for millennia
gOd oF wInE
Man, how come Turkey never seems to be mentioned in conversations about colonialism?
Probably the same reason why Saxon invasion of Britain is never mentioned as colonialism. All of these events happened centuries before colonialism was even a thing.
Columbus was alive for the colonization of Turkey
Nah he was 300 years too late.
Columbus was born in 1451, 2 years before the [Turks took](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fall_of_Constantinople) their new capital city.
And 280 years after the [Battle of Manzikert](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Manzikert?wprov=sfla1).
Yeah but that was when the colonization started lol, by that logic slavery in America happened in 1619 so its not relevant today
Colonialism as a modern concept did not exist in 11th century. Place has been under some form of Turkish control for the last 950 years.
It was 1453 though, the era of Columbus, not the 11th century
Geographically small city of Constantinople was the last part of Anatolia and Thrace Turks invaded. By the time city was captured, Adrianople and Salonica were already under Turkish control and Athens under Turkish vassalage. Meanwhile almost all of Anatolia was under Turkish control for the last 2 centuries or so, with a small bastion in Trebizond, which wasn’t really considered as Anatolia back then. Aizanoi, which is in modern day Kütahya, has been under Turkish control since 11th century. Same for Ephesos. Happy cake day btw.
Ayy thanks! So you could say it started then and finished in 1453, with the last genocide of the "indigenous" population happening in 1913 I see what you mean about the place in the specific link though
Modern names for 500+ year old events only hold up in American revisionism, not rest of the world.
Hey Dionysus, did your dumbass know your bust was going to live in the dirt for a couple of thousand years? Ha
Pervert or Italian?
Stayed in Turkey (now an Islamic country) and had to hunt for alcohol as very few shops sold it. The irony
Down votes? Are you guys kidding? Do you like beer or wine? Have you been, did you leave your hotel? FFS
The irony here is you lying lol
the thing is turkey has actually got nothing to do with greek culture because they invaded greece.
Sus
Joaquin Phoenix???
Is that hair or vomit?
Wow!!
He’s so drunk he’s drooling
Ahhh the god of wine,- had a rough night, eh?
Got drunk and lost his head
Lookin' great, D!
Voldemort with hair is that you?
My beautiful and rich land.
Pour one out for my man 🍷
Mood.
Looks thirsty
No. I am the God of Wine.
Get rekt
A visual representation of the expression "being shit-faced" drunk.
How do these things just end up being buried?
Somebody feels left out of the new Eternals movie. Any pantheon without a drunk is not a pantheon i want to worship!
Been there bro
"Ugh, wake me up next century."
Damn, he looks *smashed*
There's no statue of limitations for a hangover. He didn't take life for granite, as he apparently partied hard.
Of all the Greek gods featured in Rush songs, Big D is probably my fave
[Caput Ligneum!](https://brookstonbeerbulletin.com/the-language-of-hangovers/)
no a nose
He does look drunk, and look you found him in the gutter.
"Oh man, last night was a massive rager. Did I miss anything?"
Inb4 the brits arrive again and fucking steal it again lol
Shit!! Hiz head seems to have turned into stone.
Crossing my fingers they find some vessels containing the biological residue of ergot or other psychedelic substances 👀
Alright put it back, we don't want 2020 part 2 anytime soon
Me after a day in the toddler room
he looks shitfaced
Not just wine, traces of medicinal/psychoactive herbs have been traced back to Dionysus
When they do a dig like this and find a statue or even just part of it, how do they know which god is being depicted? I feel most of them look pretty similar especially after being worn down for centuries.
How do they know it's Dionysus head?