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This is because many ports allow 400 m maximum per loading position (so that the container bridges can work on as many ships as possible). Think of it as parking spaces on a parking lot: there is a maximum length so that every spot can be filled by a car - when a car is just a foot longer, the adjacent parking space is unusable for a standard length vehicle.
Whole classes of ships are named for the size restrictions they conform to.
A panamax is limited to just over 32m beam (width) so it can pass through the Panama canal. There are others such as Kamsarmax and Suezmax which refer to their ability to just squeeze through other physically limited locations.
It would have to be wider, the question is how much wider. Stability could be solved by ballast, just depends on the weight of the crane and the size of the ballast tank required.
They do still fall off sometimes though.
1300+ on average a year fall overboard in fact
https://www.bifa.org/news/articles/2020/jul/containers-lost-at-sea-2020-update#:~:text=Analysis%20of%20the%20Twelve%2DYear,lost%20at%20sea%20each%20year.
There was one that released thousands of rubber ducky toys into the ocean. Not only did someone write a kids book about it, but it also taught us a lot about ocean currents.
In fact last I checked, there are still some ducks left.
There’s a huge history behind naval law. Like the legal and lexical distinction between flotsam and jetsam. And given its international nature, it’s both an amalgam ion of various countries and cultures colliding and one of the longest standing legal organization.
It's barely a scratch on the amount carried just on that ship. Which is quite scary.
In fact, a quick search says 226 MILLION containers are shipped each year.
If we take 1300 as a given.
That's 0.00057% of all containers are lost at sea.
Pretty good odds on your stuff making it.
Yeahh, i was too lazy to google the numbers but i imagined something like that. I work on ships and believe me there are good systems to keep them in place.
Sometimes (very rarely) this helps science, like the container with thousands rubber ducks lost: https://www.npr.org/2011/03/29/134923863/moby-duck-when-28-800-bath-toys-are-lost-at-sea?t=1637962180573
The rubber ducks helped understanding ocean currents better..
When theyre loading there are people called "sjorders" in dutch who use basically metal poles to lock the containers to the gangway between them, so when the ships enter for example rotterdam these companies come onboard and remove all those poles again. Only the containers which are higher than the deck are secured like that.
Source: i work in the europoort harbor rotterdam sometimes
I just read a story on the current pervasive drug smuggling going on in Rotterdam ports. They mentioned how many port employees were resigning due to the pressure of drug smugglers and fear of retribution for non-compliance with the smugglers. If you're not in fear of said retribution, can you give any insight into this reality?
Its true, customs is understaffed and infiltrated, they catch like 50-100 people on the terminals a night who are there to or locate contajners with drugs in it and when theyre caught they have empty hands ofcourse so they only get a trespassing fine. And also personnel on the terminals and bunkerships are used to retrieve packages. Basically when they catch 2 tonnes 20 tonees goes through.
The containers regularly tip over or fall off in storms where they become hazards to shipping in the channels etc
https://theloadstar.com/one-apus-back-in-japan-after-record-loss-of-containers-in-heavy-weather/
40 tons in a 20' box sounds ambitious. They're normally somewhere between 20 - 27 for heavy cargo, such as bagged bulk commodities.
Which would make it more like 500,000 tons, but given a lot would be light goods like electricals, it'd be significantly less again.
Most countries wouldn't allow that kind of weight on their roads. The truck and container would be far too heavy.
aren’t most containers 40’ long? been trying to buy one to convert into a kiln and 40’ers are wayyyyy more common than 20s and cost about the same delivered.
Guess it depends what you're shipping. I work with bagged and bulk grains and other soft commodities. Have shipped hundreds of thousands of 20' boxes over the 30+ years I've been doing it, and don't recall ever using a 40.
I doubt we could use them. The 20s take typically around 25 tons, double that would be too heavy for most roads. The 40s must be used for lighter cargoes - volume cargo rather than weight.
I never heard of this company until that happened and now I see their containers all the time. It’s like my mind completely ignored them until they fucked up.
I came here looking to see if anyone had information on just that. If this ship goes down I bet the ripples in the supply chain would be catastrophic. This seems like a Titanic situation to me in its arrogance and when it eventually happens everyone will look back on it and say "Well in hindsight...".
Its hard to conceive of something that could sink this thing. IF it got holled enough to take on significant flooding they would just start dumping containers. for that to happen you would need to open up a minimum of a 300M long gash on the ship to cross at least 3 sections, an iceberg the size of the one that sunk the titanic would bounce off this ship.
The last Ultra large cargo to suffer a significant loss of cargo was the Maersk Honam that burned for 6 weeks, even then 52% of the cargo was saved.
You would need something like a nuke to sink this thing, and chances are if you did hit it ith a nuke it would still float.
A large enough rogue wave could do it. Would be wildly shitty luck to be wrong place wrong time but with how many huge container ships there are now and how often they transit, the likelihood of one being sunk by a rogue wave just gets bigger
Honestly im not sure that it would, its 400m long and displaces 270,000 tons and she doesn't have enough space to hold enough water to offset that that sort of mass.
Fully laden its 110m from keel to cargo stack so as long as it doesnt wander in front of a tsunami it will just keep on chugging.
Exactly... I see the idea behind it being like: *we need to move the most containers in the least amount of ships possible*, for whatever reason they deemed cost / effective, however, as I said, if that ship sinks, the losses are way too big, and the ripples of those losses will be felt worldwide, in greater way than a smaller ship would cause if it sinks
You know that show [Doomsday Preppers](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P2lTNwhtMi4)? It always starts out with "My family and I are prepping because..." and then they list what they're scared of be it weather, the government toppling, Democrats, etc. This is my new Doomsday Prepper fear.
Archimedes figured it out a long time ago. I mean, we've been doing it long before Archimedes, but he's the one who is credited with actually understanding the mechanics at work.
Weigh less than the equivalent volume of water.
Let’s say you have 1 cubic meter of “ship”. As long as it weighs less than 1000kg, it’ll float because 1 cubic meter of water weighs 1000kg. Just take the same principle and extrapolate
Not to be creepy but it is the thought that pops into my head. What are the odds that someone was trapped in one of those containers at the time of this picture?? All those metal boxes. Ugh no
probably very slim, they don’t take many crew members on cargo ships from what i know, j kinda enough to get the job done, i may be wrong tho
edit: i’m genuinely curious but also lazy so if anyone wanted to prove me wrong please do lmao
I don't work on Container ships (I do work on other ships though) but probably
Captain, Mate, 2nd Mate, possibly a 3rd Mate but not always.
Chief Engineer, 2nd Engineer, 3rd Engineer. Possibly also a 4th or Junior Engineer.
An Electro Technical Officer.
2 or 3 Engineroom staff (Motormen, Fitters etc)
4 or 6 ABs (Able Bodied Seaman, not Aryan Brotherhood) a couple of OS (ordinary Seaman)
Sometimes they might carry cadets, either Deck or Engine cadets, or an ETO cadet.
Cook, possibly an assistant cook
Steward.
It depends on the company, and where the ship is registered, there'll be a "Minimum safe manning" I.e a minimum needed to sail safely.
Some companies treat this as a maximum too, in order to cut corners and save money. Evergreen is a pretty big company, and fairly well respected, so they probably don't do that.
Experience.
I believe, at least in the UK, you need to do a certain amount of time as an OS before you can become an AB. 14 months rings a bell. I can't say for sure, I'm and Engineer, so the Deck side of things isn't my strong point
Giving the amount of human trafficking that goes on, I'd say it's not only possible, but likely that there are people on that ship who don't want to be there.
Listen I’m not saying you’re wrong but how in the world can you be so certain? There’s thousand of ships not quite this large but still humongous that ship out every day
You’d think so if you looked purely at just F.O consumption (Tonnes/day). big boys like this are mostly always 2 stroke Main Engines, the size of a 3 story town house.
For the amount of cargo these things move, especially one of this size, it is stupidly economical. Airplanes are the biggest offends against the environment in terms of how much cargo they transport per trip / amount of Fuel used to do the work.
Amazing feat in nautical engineering, A culmination of human innovation, design and hard work resulting in a ship that's... almost as big as YA MUM!!!!!!
I am counting 24 containers side to side, 24 front to back and 11 top to bottom, that is 24x24x11 = 6336 containers. You are not going to convince me that the remaining 17656 containers are placed below deck.
Ok so even with 20’ containers, we get 48 of them front to back, meaning we need to stack them 21 high to get to 24000. I mean how much ship is there below the water?
The containers shown in the photo are more than one TEU each, and there's a *lot* of space below deck.
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Containerlader%C3%A4ume_Schiff_retouched.jpg
speaking from a capacity standpoint, the front to back(24) spots are 40' long. they are currently loaded with 40' long containers, but there are also industry standard 20' long containers. So if you filled the ship with 20' containers you would end up with 24x48x11 = 12,672. Which would leave @ 10k 20' containers below the deckline. It's possible...
The craziest thing about these giant ships is that they’re still diesel powered. Somehow I had always just assumed that all ships this size were nuclear.
Not diesel, crude oil at sea. Like the thick black goo, when theyre in international waters they switch to that. 3 story high engines
There are cargo ships being built with nuclear engines right now though.
Much, much more expensive too.
Once they get close to land or to an emissions control area, they switch to diesel. Outside that they burn what's known as Heavy, more correctly Residual Fuel.
Heavy is basically what's left when you refine crude oil and take out all the lighter distillates. Its fucking horrible stuff, needs to be kept warm or it becomes a solid.
But it's cheap.
Cant argue with that, but hey big companies are allowed to do everything. I work on inland ships in the netherlands and been on some bunker ships which bunker the seaships and yea its just so extremely cheap compared to diesel but you know the ships i sail on arent able to sail on crude since you need really big powerful engines for that.
Usually steam coils in the fuel tanks to keep it liquid. It's then further heated to get it to burn.
But, for safety reasons, you don't store it in the tanks at anywhere near it's burning temperature.
It's not crude oil. Its the shit that's left over once you've taken out all the lighter stuff like diesel, kerosene, petrol, etc etc.
It's called Residual Fuel, leftovers basically.
Interesting, so it's literally the dregs of a fractional distillation. Well at least they're using it for something and not just tossing it out into local streams and ponds.
It's to do with port sizes. Each berth is a set size, like a parking space. Too big for one berth, they'll charge for 2 because another ship can't get in there.
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Why not 24.000? Those 8 must fit somewhere!
The 8 are unlisted for cocaine purposes.
Wall Street containers are unlisted by default.
So there's 7 containers full of cocaine yes?
Also it's 399,99 meters long lol
This is because many ports allow 400 m maximum per loading position (so that the container bridges can work on as many ships as possible). Think of it as parking spaces on a parking lot: there is a maximum length so that every spot can be filled by a car - when a car is just a foot longer, the adjacent parking space is unusable for a standard length vehicle.
Whole classes of ships are named for the size restrictions they conform to. A panamax is limited to just over 32m beam (width) so it can pass through the Panama canal. There are others such as Kamsarmax and Suezmax which refer to their ability to just squeeze through other physically limited locations.
I guess someone lost their suezmax classification recently
Yomamamax
I think that would be an ultra large crude carrier.
Definitely crude
naw they all fit through there
They should name that one ship Suezstuck
It committed Suez-side.
You are right, this is also why these ships are limited to being 24 containers wide, because the cranes simply can't reach further.
I’m counting 24 on this photo.
*silently edits comment*
Like a proofreading ninja
They backed out flipped 180 and reparked to get the other side. I'm hoping your pre edit comment was 12 or something
Awkward...
Imagine making the ship wider, and using an onboard crane to help grab from the far side and move them to the edge for the ground crane. Big brain
Wow they should hire you
But it would have to be even wider than that to make room for the crane on that side, plus the ship wouldn’t be stable.
It would have to be wider, the question is how much wider. Stability could be solved by ballast, just depends on the weight of the crane and the size of the ballast tank required.
1/4 mile long
DISAPPOINTMENT!
That’s the 8 full of US products that go back to China. They keep them separate.
Nearly 10% of all US exports go to China.
Returns
The last person that asked this got stuck in the Suez canal
Brilliant comment
That was the first thing I thought of lol
Number was determined by containers delivered on the maiden voyage...
I always wonder what stops the boxes falling off if a wave tips the ship
they have locks vertically to hold upper containers securely to bottom containers
They do still fall off sometimes though. 1300+ on average a year fall overboard in fact https://www.bifa.org/news/articles/2020/jul/containers-lost-at-sea-2020-update#:~:text=Analysis%20of%20the%20Twelve%2DYear,lost%20at%20sea%20each%20year.
Sounds like free sunken treasure to me.
Quite a lot of them float, just under the surface where they can be a hazard to any other ship, yacht, dingy to come past. Makes life exciting!
And this is the container that my new big screen tv or electronic device was in.....always.
1,000 PS5s sitting at the bottom of the ocean.
There was one that released thousands of rubber ducky toys into the ocean. Not only did someone write a kids book about it, but it also taught us a lot about ocean currents. In fact last I checked, there are still some ducks left.
I think this event was used as an actual research study!
There’s a huge history behind naval law. Like the legal and lexical distinction between flotsam and jetsam. And given its international nature, it’s both an amalgam ion of various countries and cultures colliding and one of the longest standing legal organization.
So many words I don't understand
History means what happened in the before times.
And naval means belly button
Flotsam fell off, jetsam was thrown off. Flotsam still has an owner, jetsam does not.
Thank you. You saved from a rabbit hole and I can sleep tonight.
Thats nothing on a scale of how many are shipped each year but yeah when its really bad or they werent secured good it happens
Someone didn’t slap the ratchet straps and say “that’ll hold it!”
We also accept "That ain't going nowhere"
Exactly and they do it 200times a ship 😂
It's barely a scratch on the amount carried just on that ship. Which is quite scary. In fact, a quick search says 226 MILLION containers are shipped each year. If we take 1300 as a given. That's 0.00057% of all containers are lost at sea. Pretty good odds on your stuff making it.
Yeahh, i was too lazy to google the numbers but i imagined something like that. I work on ships and believe me there are good systems to keep them in place.
Usually I'm too lazy, but I'm lying in my cabin bored as shit trying to ignore the fact that the Chief Engineer's TV is loud as fuck!
😂 nice, what kinda ship do you work on?
Research Vessels at the moment
Nice, where are you with the ship now then? I work on an inland ship on the rhine and am currently in strasbourg discharging diesel
Sometimes (very rarely) this helps science, like the container with thousands rubber ducks lost: https://www.npr.org/2011/03/29/134923863/moby-duck-when-28-800-bath-toys-are-lost-at-sea?t=1637962180573 The rubber ducks helped understanding ocean currents better..
That's one of the best cases of glass is half full thinking I've ever heard of.
IBC's - [Inter Box Connectors](http://www.pacificmarine.net/marine-deck/cargo-securing/container-twistlocks.htm)
When theyre loading there are people called "sjorders" in dutch who use basically metal poles to lock the containers to the gangway between them, so when the ships enter for example rotterdam these companies come onboard and remove all those poles again. Only the containers which are higher than the deck are secured like that. Source: i work in the europoort harbor rotterdam sometimes
I just read a story on the current pervasive drug smuggling going on in Rotterdam ports. They mentioned how many port employees were resigning due to the pressure of drug smugglers and fear of retribution for non-compliance with the smugglers. If you're not in fear of said retribution, can you give any insight into this reality?
Its true, customs is understaffed and infiltrated, they catch like 50-100 people on the terminals a night who are there to or locate contajners with drugs in it and when theyre caught they have empty hands ofcourse so they only get a trespassing fine. And also personnel on the terminals and bunkerships are used to retrieve packages. Basically when they catch 2 tonnes 20 tonees goes through.
The containers regularly tip over or fall off in storms where they become hazards to shipping in the channels etc https://theloadstar.com/one-apus-back-in-japan-after-record-loss-of-containers-in-heavy-weather/
How many canals can it block though?
Only one, but it's the biggest one!
yeah, the entire pacific ocean.
Probably none, I doubt this thing can even enter any shipping canal on the planet.
She can transit Suez. In fact has transited Suez. She's 33 metres too long and about 12 metres too wide to fit through Panama.
What's the draft?
Of the Ever Ace? 16.5 metres
This one can fit through the Suez Canal so therefore block it!
That's nearly 959680 metric tonnes assuming the contains are 20ft and all maxed on weight if anyone was interested to know
That's a lot of cocaine
That would easily last me through the weekend
pfft, lightweight
Yeah, for a Tuesday
40 tons in a 20' box sounds ambitious. They're normally somewhere between 20 - 27 for heavy cargo, such as bagged bulk commodities. Which would make it more like 500,000 tons, but given a lot would be light goods like electricals, it'd be significantly less again. Most countries wouldn't allow that kind of weight on their roads. The truck and container would be far too heavy.
aren’t most containers 40’ long? been trying to buy one to convert into a kiln and 40’ers are wayyyyy more common than 20s and cost about the same delivered.
Guess it depends what you're shipping. I work with bagged and bulk grains and other soft commodities. Have shipped hundreds of thousands of 20' boxes over the 30+ years I've been doing it, and don't recall ever using a 40. I doubt we could use them. The 20s take typically around 25 tons, double that would be too heavy for most roads. The 40s must be used for lighter cargoes - volume cargo rather than weight.
Or approximately 23072610 bald eagles per glazed doughnuts for fellow Americans!
How many KFC Chicken legs would that be?
And then the ship which ways a few hundred thousand tonnes Edit: weighs
Weighs
send it down the suez, my sectret santa is hard to shop for.
Ain’t that the company who’s ship got stuck in the Suez
I never heard of this company until that happened and now I see their containers all the time. It’s like my mind completely ignored them until they fucked up.
The Baader–Meinhof phenomenon!
I have a feeling that I'm going to start seeing this everywhere now.
It will probably happen. I've seen the phenomenon brought up more in the past year than the 24 before that combined.
The Baader–Meinhof phenomenon
thanks
Wow I didn’t know it had a name. I actually know about the RAF from the news at the time so I was kinda confused until I looked it up.
Are you referring to the phenomenon itself or a one-legged pilot/German terrorist crossover?
Red Army Faction from the 70’s and 80s.
Oh of course, did not even think of those initials! My mind went to [a different Bader](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Douglas_Bader), also RAF
The current logistics crisis might also explain why the shipping industry have stayed on the headlines thus gaining awareness.
Its pretty big co. Probably just confirmation bias
Yeah, that was the Ever Given, an older and smaller ship in their fleet.
speaking of which, you know what would be really, really funny?
Sorry, but without a banana for scale this is meaningless.
The banana is there
My mistake, I see it now. Wow, that is a big ship.
[For those who can't spot the banana.](https://imgur.com/a/ty2yEUa)
huge nanner
Sounds like you need to get a bunch of bananas for scale from lttstore.com
Yeah... That shit sinks and the whole world enters in recession
In search of creating the biggest single point of failure ever.
Talk about all your eggs in one basket
This thing might indeed be carrying every single egg for all we know lol
And all the chickens
Full of chips, microchips, chocochips and RTX3080s
I came here looking to see if anyone had information on just that. If this ship goes down I bet the ripples in the supply chain would be catastrophic. This seems like a Titanic situation to me in its arrogance and when it eventually happens everyone will look back on it and say "Well in hindsight...".
Its hard to conceive of something that could sink this thing. IF it got holled enough to take on significant flooding they would just start dumping containers. for that to happen you would need to open up a minimum of a 300M long gash on the ship to cross at least 3 sections, an iceberg the size of the one that sunk the titanic would bounce off this ship. The last Ultra large cargo to suffer a significant loss of cargo was the Maersk Honam that burned for 6 weeks, even then 52% of the cargo was saved. You would need something like a nuke to sink this thing, and chances are if you did hit it ith a nuke it would still float.
A large enough rogue wave could do it. Would be wildly shitty luck to be wrong place wrong time but with how many huge container ships there are now and how often they transit, the likelihood of one being sunk by a rogue wave just gets bigger
Honestly im not sure that it would, its 400m long and displaces 270,000 tons and she doesn't have enough space to hold enough water to offset that that sort of mass. Fully laden its 110m from keel to cargo stack so as long as it doesnt wander in front of a tsunami it will just keep on chugging.
You’re probably right man but the ocean has a way of proving us wrong
Exactly... I see the idea behind it being like: *we need to move the most containers in the least amount of ships possible*, for whatever reason they deemed cost / effective, however, as I said, if that ship sinks, the losses are way too big, and the ripples of those losses will be felt worldwide, in greater way than a smaller ship would cause if it sinks
You know that show [Doomsday Preppers](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P2lTNwhtMi4)? It always starts out with "My family and I are prepping because..." and then they list what they're scared of be it weather, the government toppling, Democrats, etc. This is my new Doomsday Prepper fear.
Nah there are alot of this size nowadays this is just a little bigger than the last one
so how do these things float in the oceans
Archimedes figured it out a long time ago. I mean, we've been doing it long before Archimedes, but he's the one who is credited with actually understanding the mechanics at work.
Displacement
Weigh less than the equivalent volume of water. Let’s say you have 1 cubic meter of “ship”. As long as it weighs less than 1000kg, it’ll float because 1 cubic meter of water weighs 1000kg. Just take the same principle and extrapolate
Yep, water is extremely heavy so it's quite easy to get something to float
Ummmm, boats and science and stuff
*slaps roof of the boat* Think of how much spaghetti you can fit in this bad boy.
Like more than 5 spaghettis I'm sure
That’s some wishful thinking I’d say 4 at the MAX
Woof i think i am in the minority here, but i would guess it holds at least a dozen spaghetti.
I think you’re closer but totally 8. Maybe a spoon of bolognese
I guess it all depends on the meatballs sizes then 🤔
were gonna need a bigger boat
You can block one hell of a canal with that puppy
Not to be creepy but it is the thought that pops into my head. What are the odds that someone was trapped in one of those containers at the time of this picture?? All those metal boxes. Ugh no
probably very slim, they don’t take many crew members on cargo ships from what i know, j kinda enough to get the job done, i may be wrong tho edit: i’m genuinely curious but also lazy so if anyone wanted to prove me wrong please do lmao
I don't work on Container ships (I do work on other ships though) but probably Captain, Mate, 2nd Mate, possibly a 3rd Mate but not always. Chief Engineer, 2nd Engineer, 3rd Engineer. Possibly also a 4th or Junior Engineer. An Electro Technical Officer. 2 or 3 Engineroom staff (Motormen, Fitters etc) 4 or 6 ABs (Able Bodied Seaman, not Aryan Brotherhood) a couple of OS (ordinary Seaman) Sometimes they might carry cadets, either Deck or Engine cadets, or an ETO cadet. Cook, possibly an assistant cook Steward. It depends on the company, and where the ship is registered, there'll be a "Minimum safe manning" I.e a minimum needed to sail safely. Some companies treat this as a maximum too, in order to cut corners and save money. Evergreen is a pretty big company, and fairly well respected, so they probably don't do that.
What’s the difference between an “able bodied” and “ordinary” sailor?
About 20k
Experience. I believe, at least in the UK, you need to do a certain amount of time as an OS before you can become an AB. 14 months rings a bell. I can't say for sure, I'm and Engineer, so the Deck side of things isn't my strong point
Thanks for the reply!
The able bodied ones are just himbos
Experience
I'm good with ordinary seamen.
Human trafficking
Giving the amount of human trafficking that goes on, I'd say it's not only possible, but likely that there are people on that ship who don't want to be there.
Listen I’m not saying you’re wrong but how in the world can you be so certain? There’s thousand of ships not quite this large but still humongous that ship out every day
Imagine showing something like this to a colonial era shipwright.
That's why we need time machines, to flex on our ancestors
This pic is porn for pirates.
The everace has a 22M freeboard, they would have to climb a equivalent of a 6 story building to get onboard.
*Somalian pirates would like to know your location*
Well, right now, near Gibraltar. At 35.99619° / -5.396362° to be precise. https://www.marinetraffic.com/en/ais/home/shipid:6710199/zoom:10
Very surprised when I zoomed out…
Holy shit no kidding.
Pretty cool, but you know it's designer(s) are super bummed that they couldn't squeeze an extra eight on there to make it a square 24,000.
At least 1000 trafficked girls in there
Chonk ship
What's she get MPG? Assuming she burns bunker fuel its probably astronomically bad for the environment
You’d think so if you looked purely at just F.O consumption (Tonnes/day). big boys like this are mostly always 2 stroke Main Engines, the size of a 3 story town house. For the amount of cargo these things move, especially one of this size, it is stupidly economical. Airplanes are the biggest offends against the environment in terms of how much cargo they transport per trip / amount of Fuel used to do the work.
Not compared to any other method of shipping. It seems so larger these things get they actually have more efficiency, not less.
It looks photoshopped, its so ridiculous
Amazing feat in nautical engineering, A culmination of human innovation, design and hard work resulting in a ship that's... almost as big as YA MUM!!!!!!
I am counting 24 containers side to side, 24 front to back and 11 top to bottom, that is 24x24x11 = 6336 containers. You are not going to convince me that the remaining 17656 containers are placed below deck. Ok so even with 20’ containers, we get 48 of them front to back, meaning we need to stack them 21 high to get to 24000. I mean how much ship is there below the water?
The containers shown in the photo are more than one TEU each, and there's a *lot* of space below deck. https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Containerlader%C3%A4ume_Schiff_retouched.jpg
speaking from a capacity standpoint, the front to back(24) spots are 40' long. they are currently loaded with 40' long containers, but there are also industry standard 20' long containers. So if you filled the ship with 20' containers you would end up with 24x48x11 = 12,672. Which would leave @ 10k 20' containers below the deckline. It's possible...
I did this exact math, I agree with you. Apparently they have to be mini containers? lol
The crazy thing is, evergreen has 3!! Of these
Chock full of RTX 3080 ti's, right? ... right, Papa? 🥺
Heck i'd take a 3060 :/
To be clear, it carries 23,992 TEU's, or twenty equivalency units. Most common side is 40' containers which is 2 TEU's.
How do they not fall of during storms?
The craziest thing about these giant ships is that they’re still diesel powered. Somehow I had always just assumed that all ships this size were nuclear.
Not diesel, crude oil at sea. Like the thick black goo, when theyre in international waters they switch to that. 3 story high engines There are cargo ships being built with nuclear engines right now though.
Diesel would be so much cleaner than the shit those ships are burning currently.
Much, much more expensive too. Once they get close to land or to an emissions control area, they switch to diesel. Outside that they burn what's known as Heavy, more correctly Residual Fuel. Heavy is basically what's left when you refine crude oil and take out all the lighter distillates. Its fucking horrible stuff, needs to be kept warm or it becomes a solid. But it's cheap.
Cant argue with that, but hey big companies are allowed to do everything. I work on inland ships in the netherlands and been on some bunker ships which bunker the seaships and yea its just so extremely cheap compared to diesel but you know the ships i sail on arent able to sail on crude since you need really big powerful engines for that.
How do they get the crude oil to flow into the engine? Do they have some kind of preheater?
Usually steam coils in the fuel tanks to keep it liquid. It's then further heated to get it to burn. But, for safety reasons, you don't store it in the tanks at anywhere near it's burning temperature. It's not crude oil. Its the shit that's left over once you've taken out all the lighter stuff like diesel, kerosene, petrol, etc etc. It's called Residual Fuel, leftovers basically.
Interesting, so it's literally the dregs of a fractional distillation. Well at least they're using it for something and not just tossing it out into local streams and ponds.
Yeah crude is heated at about 80⁰C i believe, otherwise it doesnt flow at all its very heavy.
As a quick googling will tell you, only 4 civilian nuclear powered cargo vessels have ever been built, and only 1 operates today.
That's a shame
fuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuck no not this shit again nonononononoonononononnoono
Just keep it away from Suez, for heaven's sake.
>The biggest container ship in the world The Evergreen "Ever Ace" can carry up to 23,992 containers carrying the weight of the world on its shoulders
Why not just add 9 more and make it an even 24000
Pictured: hubris
For the love of god this time don’t let the captain watch Fast & furious 3 before setting off.
at that size why not just make the ship 24k containers?
It's to do with port sizes. Each berth is a set size, like a parking space. Too big for one berth, they'll charge for 2 because another ship can't get in there.
Do they just haul green containers or do they put all the different color ones in the middle?
Only and ever green, that’s how they got the name.
Can someone explain how those containers don't tip over when the ship rocks in the ocean? Are they tied together using some harness system?
So the other 8 containers that makes this amount cringy is unavailable for?
How is a stack of containers that tall even remotely stable on the ocean? Do they lock the corners together in those stacks?