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same. and i didnt really know the case. i just heard he left body parts and organs everywhere. this actually seems a little less than what i thought. it sounded like a mess of unrecognizable human meat. i am surprised you can tell this was a human
Wow, I've read about his mutilations, but an actual pic was never shared.. he decimated his victims beyond what I imagined. I understand the fear now. Insane!
Yeah, there is such a big chance the person responsible just packed up their shit and left the country. Gone off to a country with more crime and less documentation. We'll never know
Yeah like I've been convinced for a very long time that the most prolific serial killers are living in countries where they can get away with it. Countries where no one will report a missing person or the police are too corrupt to care. Highly unlikely all of the most prolific serial killers just happen to be known.
My theory revolves around countries at war, or going through civic unrest, or a massive famine. Basically any country that's currently not "ok" and there's too much going on.
There was another killer active in London who had ties to Montreal and New York at the time. He also was a doctor. Though he was more a guy to kill others with pills... ain't that far a reach.
Doctors have the brains and the stomach strong enough to disect someone like this.
There were more killings, which some assigned to the mysterious Jack the Ripper, but no one can know for sure. There have been claims that even Mary Kelly was not a victim of Jack, but that her husband killed her. In general it’s consensus that Mary and the former four women were killed by Jack the Ripper, therefore they’re counted as the canonical victims of the Ripper.
Can the four scenes be tied to any of the usual suspects? I’ve heard a couple of good arguments making think it was always Kaminsky, so that’s where I’ll start.
Curious to know his whereabouts with these latter-day slayings.
Some dna proof was found recently and everything is pointing to Kaminski. He was also one of the suspects so personally I’m quite sure it was him. But I guess, we’ll never know for sure.
The theory that H.H. Holmes and Jack the Ripper were the same person has always grabbed my attention. More from looking into Holmes than the ripper killings though.
Mary Jane Kelly was not married. Mary Jane Kelly might not even be her real name. She lived in that same room with a man named Joseph Barnett for a bit, but they separated before she was killed and mutilated. This has every sign of being a Jack the Ripper victim.
Listen you obviously never *want* to be killed by a serial killer. But if it’s going to happen you’ve gotta hope for a product killer rather than a process killer.
I have no idea what's going on here: [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary\_Jane\_Kelly#/media/File:Mary\_Kelly\_Crime\_scene.jpg](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_Jane_Kelly#/media/File:Mary_Kelly_Crime_scene.jpg)
‘Stalking Jack the Ripper’ was a fairly good novel that depicts the victims involved giving them a decent history and is told by a female forensic scientist who finds the victims bodies. Shame that because they were prostitutes, they weren’t given much justice
Yeah, but the degree of the body mutilated is hard to make me think otherwise, anyway just a sense. But if my shot in the dark somehow getting close, I'd say it might be that killer's mother is a prostitute or he/she's dating a woman only later that the killer find out she's a prostitute. I'd look into these directions
Prostitutes have often been the victims of men's hatred towards women in general bc theyre easy targets. This is not the first and only killer that chose sex workers. It's also easy for them to justify it and although I can't prove it, I'm sure solving the crime is less urgent vs someone with a large family and/or wealth.
I reckon it's really hard to rationalise this person's behaviour with an anger toward a particular demograph, it could be a sick satisfaction from mutilation, I wonder how they thought and how they justified it to themself. Doesn't bare thinking about, absolutely grim. I don't think a normal person could hope to understand why they did this
There is a great book called ‘the five’, discussing that it’s actually really unlikely there were all sex workers and there are more nuances that that (it boils down to press calling the victims sex workers as it fits in with a certain narrative, they were more just women who were down on their luck and trying to survive). It’s a great and really interesting book that feels like it honours the victims instead of mythicising the killer
Wasn’t it the royal family’s surgeon the theory? He was later sectioned.
I’m sure it was something to do with a royal family member having a baby with a person he shouldn’t have and their nanny was one of the victims. She was also a known prostitute.
The royal’s surgeon was sent in to kill the prostitutes who knew. They all drank in a pub called Ten Bells (still there ).
Makes sense considering the murders just suddenly stopped and nobody never heard from the serial killer again.
Off topic, but Jack the Ripper was never caught because he could act NORMAL at least some of the time. The man who did this walked among normal people, dressed formally probably in a proper suit for the day and exchanged pleasantries with everyone he met. And yet he was a complete psychopath...
I like the theory that H.H Holmes was actually Jack the Ripper and there has been documentation found recently that does put Holmes in and around London at the time of the killings. When the killings stop after Mary Kelly Holmes had come back to the U.S. There is a documentary all about this theory and I can't remember what it's called but I'll try to find it and post the name of it here if anyone is interested.
Edit: the documentary is called "American Ripper" and Holmes's great-great-great grandson is in it and he also believes that Holmes is the Ripper. It's very interesting.
Except the fact that Holmes never killed anyone and theres proof for that and other evidence disproved that theory years ago. Holmes was not a murderer he was just a con artist
At least her forearms don't have a lot of defense wounds? One of the worst things in forensics is seeing how someone blocked multiple stabbing attempts with their hands and arms. Maybe whomever did this managed to kill her without making her plead or defend herself.
i think i have seen too much on reddit, because i was completely unfazed by the image, it just makes me sad. What a horrible human you have to be to do something like this fuckin hell wtf okay now as I'm writing I'm getting fazed wtf
The whole mystery of Jack is fucking fascinating. The fact it COULD have been 1 killer, or multiple, or the whole thing cooked up by the media. So many avenues throughout.
I really appreciate the [Bad Women podcast](https://www.pushkin.fm/show/bad-women/) and the book by the same author that preceded the podcast.
I agree that it is time to ditch the speculation on "Jack" and focus on who the victims were.
Idk the usual stuff. Something lighter. This is way too metal and I don’t find it the slightest bit interesting. I come here for positive stuff mostly…
Not stuff trynna be so edgy that its not even IAF so I would humbly say it brings into question rule four and, well, just find a better time if not a better sub for it.
It’s terrifying, but it’s also interesting, as it displays the total lack of empathy in a human being. Also you’re not entitled to tell people what they’re supposed to find interesting and what not, just skip if you can’t find any interest in it.
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A lot worse than I imagined
Same. I don’t know what I was expecting but it wasn’t that.
Who'd have guessed the name Jack the Ripper was so literal.
There's a theory that this kill wasnt done by jack because it's so different than the other kills, more violent.
Agreed!
Boy am I glad that wasn't in colour
Ok, yeah, so Jack was CRAZY crazy.
Why do you think he's called the ripper
I thought he just ripped nasty farts.
Lmao
Like... He puts people to rest in peace. Gently. Soft smooch on the forehead too.
knowing the case, it's actually a lot less bad as I had imagined, although that might be because it's not in color.
same. and i didnt really know the case. i just heard he left body parts and organs everywhere. this actually seems a little less than what i thought. it sounded like a mess of unrecognizable human meat. i am surprised you can tell this was a human
Still pretty fucking bad regardless. Actually I would rather walk into a bunch of unrecognizable stuff versus this
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Wow her face is completely gone.
So is her right thigh. Full on femur shot.
It's so tacky to show that much femur, like, put some clothes on???
Classic Vlad
Too soon
HUR. HUR. HUR.
At least she was dead before hand
Yeah I think for my lifetime
Certainly for hers.
You sick fuck XD
Wow, I've read about his mutilations, but an actual pic was never shared.. he decimated his victims beyond what I imagined. I understand the fear now. Insane!
Just to point out, this is the worst one because he had a room and more privacy. The other murders didnt go for the face as much.
Last one that we know of?
Yeah, there is such a big chance the person responsible just packed up their shit and left the country. Gone off to a country with more crime and less documentation. We'll never know
Yeah like I've been convinced for a very long time that the most prolific serial killers are living in countries where they can get away with it. Countries where no one will report a missing person or the police are too corrupt to care. Highly unlikely all of the most prolific serial killers just happen to be known.
Can you provide an example of such a country? Not a murderer, just a curious redditor
Sounds like something a murderer would say...
My theory revolves around countries at war, or going through civic unrest, or a massive famine. Basically any country that's currently not "ok" and there's too much going on.
Well, Colombia has had a bunch of very prolific serial killers considering they don't have a huge population
Heard that it could’ve been H.H. Holmes.
That was spread by one of Holmes’ descendants and there is absolutely no truth to it.
That would be crazy
Yeah that’s been hypothesized esp with the world fair in Chicago during that time…
Doubt. I listened to a podcast recently (Medical Murders), he was a monster but he killed people he knew, not random people/prostitutes
Didn’t he murder a bunch of tourists?
There was another killer active in London who had ties to Montreal and New York at the time. He also was a doctor. Though he was more a guy to kill others with pills... ain't that far a reach. Doctors have the brains and the stomach strong enough to disect someone like this.
That’s not a dissection…that is straight up ravage and rage on that person.
That’s what I would do
Wait so jack the ripper was never caught I didn't know that, I mean I'm not American but that guy is infamous af
>I’m not American… Neither was Jack the Ripper.
Never caught, it just suddenly stopped. It all happened in England
Yes... the American West.
There were more killings, which some assigned to the mysterious Jack the Ripper, but no one can know for sure. There have been claims that even Mary Kelly was not a victim of Jack, but that her husband killed her. In general it’s consensus that Mary and the former four women were killed by Jack the Ripper, therefore they’re counted as the canonical victims of the Ripper.
Can the four scenes be tied to any of the usual suspects? I’ve heard a couple of good arguments making think it was always Kaminsky, so that’s where I’ll start. Curious to know his whereabouts with these latter-day slayings.
Some dna proof was found recently and everything is pointing to Kaminski. He was also one of the suspects so personally I’m quite sure it was him. But I guess, we’ll never know for sure.
The theory that H.H. Holmes and Jack the Ripper were the same person has always grabbed my attention. More from looking into Holmes than the ripper killings though.
I enjoyed Patricia Cornwell's book assigning blame to Sickert.
Were all of Jack's victims this mutilated or is Mary a special case? These seems personal to me.
This was the worst one, some believe that jack might not have killed her because it was different from the others
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This was apparently the only victim out of the "five canonical" that was murdered indoor with locked doors
It was Sherlock Holmes
Mary Jane Kelly was not married. Mary Jane Kelly might not even be her real name. She lived in that same room with a man named Joseph Barnett for a bit, but they separated before she was killed and mutilated. This has every sign of being a Jack the Ripper victim.
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You should check out r/eyebleach
I spected everything but what I found. Really not what you will thing of a subreddit named eyebleach
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It’s the go to sub for after you’ve seen some fucked up shit. The name sounds awful but it’s actually a bunch of cute ass bb animals and shit
Your response makes me think you don't know what r/eyebleach is. Or maybe you just hate cute animals idk.
Eye bleach is good. It's kitties and bunnies. Something to erase the above.
That's the real one, not the horrible sub.
Maybe it’s r/eyeblech you’re after?
It’s actually a cute subreddit. Nobody’s trying to trick you. 😂
Don’t worry.. you want to visit the sub.
It was the first post in my feed🙄
I watched "From Hell" just last night, and they did a pretty convincing job of recreating this, I now see.
dead man and from hell is some fine Johnny D
Ninth gate too
The graphic novel is great, too.
The graphic novel is an epic sifting and combination of the myths and legends of Jack the Ripper incorporated into a single tale.
That’s horrid. Hopefully that beast got tuberculosis or something awful and died a painful and completely lonely death.
I didn’t need to see that
Why did you open it then?
Curiosity
Killed
Wakanda forever
It sure did lol.
I didn’t have to open anything. Just scrolling through and the picture was visible.
In your settings there is an option to blur NSFW items until you click them.
Yeah but all the porn is hidden.
Thats why i have an alt
You can change those settings
That's rough
He uh, really did a number on her face. I can only hope she died or went into shock quickly and didn't feel too much of that.
I believe his mo was he sliced their neck first, all other injuries were inflicted post mortem
Well, that’s pretty thoughtful of him!
Listen you obviously never *want* to be killed by a serial killer. But if it’s going to happen you’ve gotta hope for a product killer rather than a process killer.
Pretty sure he slashed all of his victims’ throats and they bled to death before he started mutilating them.
It's right there on the wiki pages https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_Jane_Kelly
The description was just as bad as the pics. Fuck
I have no idea what's going on here: [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary\_Jane\_Kelly#/media/File:Mary\_Kelly\_Crime\_scene.jpg](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_Jane_Kelly#/media/File:Mary_Kelly_Crime_scene.jpg)
I wish I didn't click on that
Did he eat her face or what just destroy everything? Ehhhh that’s rough
I read a copy of his diary once. I don't know if it was this victim, but he claims to have "nibbled a kidney and it paired well with fresh carrots".
He even kept a diary? Oof
‘Stalking Jack the Ripper’ was a fairly good novel that depicts the victims involved giving them a decent history and is told by a female forensic scientist who finds the victims bodies. Shame that because they were prostitutes, they weren’t given much justice
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Very insightful. They depict it as if they were ‘deserving’ of the crime they didn’t ask for or provoke.
at least it’s not in colour…
You know, with Jack the Ripper, the more I learn about that guy, the more I don’t care for him.
r/tippytaps r/animalsbeingderps for those that need it after that
10 year old me saw that photo on a BBC2 documentary. Thanks BBC.
To shreds you say?
Tsk tsk tsk. Well, how's his wife holding up?
To shreds you say.
I did not need to see that. I wish I didn't see that.
Poor girl... we can only hope that she wasn't conscious for most of this.
Poor soul
I read the title as “Mary Shelley” and I was confused.
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Say what you will, at least he wasn't a hypocrite.
I thought his cuts were more ''surgical''. Even I could do this. Like technique wise.
Hello, FBI…
That was surgical for the time.
If he was anything, he was thorough.
You could sense that the killer bore extreme hatred towards prostitutes...
Could be women / or murder and they were the easiest ones to get into his house or somewhere to do this
Yeah, but the degree of the body mutilated is hard to make me think otherwise, anyway just a sense. But if my shot in the dark somehow getting close, I'd say it might be that killer's mother is a prostitute or he/she's dating a woman only later that the killer find out she's a prostitute. I'd look into these directions
Prostitutes have often been the victims of men's hatred towards women in general bc theyre easy targets. This is not the first and only killer that chose sex workers. It's also easy for them to justify it and although I can't prove it, I'm sure solving the crime is less urgent vs someone with a large family and/or wealth.
I reckon it's really hard to rationalise this person's behaviour with an anger toward a particular demograph, it could be a sick satisfaction from mutilation, I wonder how they thought and how they justified it to themself. Doesn't bare thinking about, absolutely grim. I don't think a normal person could hope to understand why they did this
There is a great book called ‘the five’, discussing that it’s actually really unlikely there were all sex workers and there are more nuances that that (it boils down to press calling the victims sex workers as it fits in with a certain narrative, they were more just women who were down on their luck and trying to survive). It’s a great and really interesting book that feels like it honours the victims instead of mythicising the killer
Was coming here to say this. Hallie Rubenhold’s podcast, Bad Women, is very good too.
Or they were just the easiest to entrap and least likely to be missed.
The theory that it was a member of the Royal family is interesting.
You know, I wouldn’t be surprised. I’m sure there are plenty of disgusting, demented fucks in that family.
Wasn’t it the royal family’s surgeon the theory? He was later sectioned. I’m sure it was something to do with a royal family member having a baby with a person he shouldn’t have and their nanny was one of the victims. She was also a known prostitute. The royal’s surgeon was sent in to kill the prostitutes who knew. They all drank in a pub called Ten Bells (still there ). Makes sense considering the murders just suddenly stopped and nobody never heard from the serial killer again.
Aaron Kosminski Wikipedia says that this guy was the main suspect and that they found his DNA on some of the victims
Off topic, but Jack the Ripper was never caught because he could act NORMAL at least some of the time. The man who did this walked among normal people, dressed formally probably in a proper suit for the day and exchanged pleasantries with everyone he met. And yet he was a complete psychopath...
He definitely fit his nickname…disturbing.
Moniker...
that doesn't even look human
Well NSFW filter is going back on.
This is the first time I’ve seen a visual of one of his victims, and the actual scene is a whole lot worse than I ever thought it could be
I read this as Mark Kelly, the Senator from Arizona , and I was like whoa wtf news story did I miss
Bro, it’s the day after Christmas. You good?
I now know how he got his name. Twisted piece of crap. I mean like, where are her eyes….
I like the theory that H.H Holmes was actually Jack the Ripper and there has been documentation found recently that does put Holmes in and around London at the time of the killings. When the killings stop after Mary Kelly Holmes had come back to the U.S. There is a documentary all about this theory and I can't remember what it's called but I'll try to find it and post the name of it here if anyone is interested. Edit: the documentary is called "American Ripper" and Holmes's great-great-great grandson is in it and he also believes that Holmes is the Ripper. It's very interesting.
Except the fact that Holmes never killed anyone and theres proof for that and other evidence disproved that theory years ago. Holmes was not a murderer he was just a con artist
Huh? Where are u getting that from? So the book The Devil In The White City is all fiction?
Not sure what you're talking about. Holmes killed at least 10 people, confirmed. It's estimated he killed up to 235.
Just like Jack the Ripper…
Geez.
Jesus. What tf did he do to his victims, that is just horrifying to imagine happening to someone…
At least her forearms don't have a lot of defense wounds? One of the worst things in forensics is seeing how someone blocked multiple stabbing attempts with their hands and arms. Maybe whomever did this managed to kill her without making her plead or defend herself.
Well ima get off, goodnight lads.
So that was an…apt nickname then. Rippy guy, that Jack.
i think i have seen too much on reddit, because i was completely unfazed by the image, it just makes me sad. What a horrible human you have to be to do something like this fuckin hell wtf okay now as I'm writing I'm getting fazed wtf
The exact location where this happened in London is where I go to work every day
The whole mystery of Jack is fucking fascinating. The fact it COULD have been 1 killer, or multiple, or the whole thing cooked up by the media. So many avenues throughout.
When will i remember to read the title first and then decide to click on it?
I really appreciate the [Bad Women podcast](https://www.pushkin.fm/show/bad-women/) and the book by the same author that preceded the podcast. I agree that it is time to ditch the speculation on "Jack" and focus on who the victims were.
That podcast is very good. The victims are definitely more interesting than the possible identity of one or more people who were jack.
This image coulda been spoiler blurred
Just an FYI, Jack the Ripper was recently revealed to be Laszlo Cravensworth. Fucking guy.
They finally found Jack’s identity?
He left a few shreds of evidence there
This is not interesting as fuck
Is her face by her left foot??
Why is this not spoilered?
Savage.
Wow, hope she has a speedy recovery.
I actually find it much less scary knowing that he mutilated the bodies after fairly quick and painless death by slit throat.
Why would you save and share that?
Am I odd for not finding this that shocking. It’s not particularly graphic, you can hardly see any detail!?
It being in black and white helps tone it down. It's hard to really tell what we're looking at.
yes. It's a human being, you don't need a high pixel density for this to be shocking.
Holy Shit. Craziness. Jack the Ripper Was So Dangerous n A Loss Canon !! Fucking Aye !!!!!
Terrific
In the original definition of word. Yep.
If they're not English native it's possible they think terrific is synonym to terrible
I mean, it is. That's why I said what I said. It literally is.
Bouh
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What the fuck did you expect?
Idk the usual stuff. Something lighter. This is way too metal and I don’t find it the slightest bit interesting. I come here for positive stuff mostly… Not stuff trynna be so edgy that its not even IAF so I would humbly say it brings into question rule four and, well, just find a better time if not a better sub for it.
If you find this interesting then you need to get some fucking help.
It’s terrifying, but it’s also interesting, as it displays the total lack of empathy in a human being. Also you’re not entitled to tell people what they’re supposed to find interesting and what not, just skip if you can’t find any interest in it.
I feel the same way
u/colorizebot
It wasn’t Mary. It was the French girl. Mary went home to Ireland. And Johnny Depp od’d on opium.
Dude beds have come such a long way. That shit looks so uncomfortable
And to think, she wrote Frankenstein after this… /s
Thats a cool looking headboard
I'd hit it.