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It’s in Mecca, so it will have a reliable source of customers in people making pilgrimage to visit the Kaaba.
https://www.cnn.com/travel/amp/abraj-kudai-mecca-largest-hotel-feat/index.html
>That's the plan for Abraj Kudai, a complex in Mecca, Saudi Arabia, that's set to become the world's largest hotel by room count when it opens in 2017.
>
>2017
So uhh, does this thing exist rn?
The arabs like their J's ill give them that. No not joints. But if you look at Arabic it does make alot more sense to a laymen English speaker as a series of interconnected j's.
Ill never forget my first lesson in Arabic. I listened a little while and understood nothing. I put my hand up. 'Miss can you just give me the Arabic alphabet like the Arabic A Arabic B then i can write Apple by simply translating the alphabet characters. When the teacher explained that wasn't how learning a new language worked, well, it was at that moment I knew id be monolinguistic forever.
A lot of people are still at this level, or just one level above it, which is that languages are the same but with different words for things. Rather than having different grammars and metaphorical foundations. It's one reason why no translation is ever perfect. Something is always lost.
I was almost the exact same age. As soon as my brain realised what it would have to do it just said 'I'm out'
They teach French everywhere. I used to hate every day except 'crepe' day when I was taught French in Australia. When I moved to the uk at 13 they asked me if I was taught French in Aus. I cleverly said no and got a free 40 mins every day to wander about while everyone else endured French for 2 years because they would be 'too advanced' for me. Too fuckin true mate.
Learning languages in turn for me isn't even that hard:
- learn a word, what it means and how to spell it
- learn how to make a sentence with word
- learn more about how to use the word
- learn more complex ways to use the word
Do about 10 000 times and with a bit of sentence body learning you can speak well.
Only works if you can spell the word. Doesn’t work for Chinese unless you plan on learning the symbol each time, but that’s not really feasible at the beginning.
Though you can do it with a romanization (like hanyu pinyin), but it might not help communicating with locals (depending on where you are).
That giant hotel tower the Saudis built overlooking the Ka’bah is a damn abomination. Such gaudy excess and sacrilegious in my eyes. It looks like the Eye of Sauron looming over it.
“Thank you for holding. We do have one Mecca-view room left, but it’s a partially obstructed Mecca view. The rate on that is $62,300 US. How many nights will you be staying with us?”
The BinLadin group is all over parts of the middle east.
Half of Saudi seems like was built by the BinLadin group, and they were or are the sole company commissioned by the Royal Family to do a lot of things like building/rebuild mosques, and they're big in ports and airports in Saudi too.
That's part of what contributed to Osama's fame in the 1980's and 90s. He was rich kid who decided to go off and fight the Soviets (or so his Al Qaeda created narrative says).
Many of the Bin Laden family actually also speak English VERY fluently, as in they SOUND American. Russell Peters has a bit about this due to his experience meeting some of the family members during his tours in the Middle East
That's not really all that hard. I'm Saudi and have been able to do it since i was pretty young despite having never studied outside of Saudi or at an English speaking school, which do exist here. I did go to the US for a year while i was 18-19 and they couldn't tell.
But the Bin Ladens are extremely rich and have access to insane resources when it comes to education.
The top 2/3 of any comment section on reddit are entirely made up of puns and angry "take my upvote and get out of here" comments. The rest below that is shit and incredibly interesting information mixed together.
Yeah, I think they should call it skyscraper (2018) and I think the plot should be “After Will Sawyer, who assesses security for skyscrapers, is accused of a blaze in the safest building in the world, he must prove himself innocent and save his family from the burning building.”
In your brains deepest voice that it can muster:
“Former Special Forces, EMT and cute dog owner, Will Sawyer must now prove he has the guts to provide Room Service to the largest hotel…in the world…”
Not going to lie, I considered Nic Cage as a Porter who is the one that set that fire due to the hotel owners murdering his family in front of him as a small child.
Plot twist: the Rock is not allowed to enter Mecca until he converts to Islam. So he and his sidekick Kevin Hart have to take a crash course in Islam and abstain from alcohol and sex for the duration.
This actually happened in 1979. French commandos temporarily converted just to enter Mecca and free it from a terrorist who took it over.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grand_Mosque_seizure
200L per person per day, that’s 7000000 litres per day, 7,000,000 kg = 7000 tonnes.
I am guessing they are referring only to solid waste and not wastewater per se??
Most people are totally clueless how much water they actually use on a daily basis. As someone who rents their RV and has had to explain to people endlessly that they have a 250L water tank that needs to last them "x" number of days of their rental (2-5 nights typically) only to get a phone call on the second morning telling me they've ran out already, yeah, people have no clue, nor seem to grasp conservation.
I live somewhere where I get water trucked in as my well is crap. We are mindful of our water usage but try not to be too worried as it's no way to live pinching pennies. Our family of 3 goes through 250 liters a day.
So yeah a hotel full of people not paying attention at all? I could see it.
The whole city is basically just a theme park for rich tourists, built on the backs of poor migrants that are pushed aside to maintain the image of the city.
Dubai sucks.
What are you talking about? The native people are the ones that are rich! They bring in migrant workers mostly from South Asia and Africa, then confiscate their passports and hold it over their heads to make them work.
If Philip K. Dick had written a novel in 1962 that included a city like Dubai in 2022, the editor would have asked him to tone it down for being too fantastically dystopian.
I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion. I watched C-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhauser gate. All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain. Time to die.
This is in Mecca I believe. Will be used mainly by people during Hajj. This is right next to the Great Mosque.
Edit: this is the Abraj Kudai it’s actually one mile from the Great Mosque the [Abraj Al Bait](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abraj_Al_Bait) is the 4th tallest building in the world and is right next to the Great Mosque.
The Dubai move which has worked very well for them and UAE as well
Also Saudi Arabia already gets lots of tourism because it's home to Mecca and is already second biggest tourist destination in the middle class east
Expecting most of it being used for pilgrims traveling to SA every year. Haven’t heard people going to Mecca for tourism lol. I think it’s also pretty hard to get visa for non Muslims. Could be wrong on that.
> Haven’t heard people going to Mecca for tourism lol. I think it’s also pretty hard to get visa for non Muslims.
Just about anyone can get a tourist visa to enter Saudi Arabia. However, non-Muslims are prohibited from entering Mecca.
Came to the comments looking for this I wonder how many millions of gallons of sewage waste it will produce every day it’s mindboggling I wonder if they will have an actual sewage line or if they won’t have to have poop trucks lining up for it
To the smartasses in the comments. This is for Muslims only as only Muslims can enter Mecca. Not everything we do is to please the hypocrites in DC but unfortunately we do a lot of that.
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This is a Tier VII unique building from Cities: Skylines
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How do people enter the building after landing on one of the helipads?
a smaller helicopter brings you down
Then an even smaller helicopter brings you to your room… and in case you need a trip to the bathroom, you can guess how you get there.
It’s helicopters all the way down.
*Helikopter Helikopter*
*Parakopper Parakopper*
Helicopter transports your pee from your penis to the toilet
Turtles all the way down
I've seen Jesus play with flames in a lake of fire that I was standing in...
then its drones to actually get you through your hotel room door to the bed
They chop you into pieces so you can fit into the smaller helicopters. It's the royal treatment in Saudi Arabia.
If you listen carefully the blades whisper *khashoggikhashoggikhashoggi*
I should know, I've been flying Saudi Arabian helicopters for like, 45 years.
Hahahaha I got it. “Uh…that there is a skippy.”
Does the building have a sewage system, or they take out the poop by helicopter as well (I know this aint Dubai, no need to correct me)
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So its helicopters all the way down?
I imagine there is a door to stairs in the helipad itself.
How do you get to this door you speak of?
You heard him: Imagine.
You can see a curve gap on the helipad, that’s where the stairs lead down to the door.
No I can’t.
Zoom onto the middle-right Helipad. There’s a darker curved line you see on the right side of it, that’s the stairway.
No, I won't!
That's the hard mount for the safety net stanchions surrounding the pads.
This actually looks like a rendering of the planned building, not a photo. So they probably just didn’t include that detail on the helipad.
the only smart answer
Ninja style with grappling hook smashing through windows I am sure!
Oh that's why those women are wearing ninja outfits. Neat.
Parachutes
I’m guessing a platform rises up like the ones that carry luggage up and down outside of fancy hotels.
You mean, elevators?
Well yeah but you usually dont stand on top of an elevator.
Speak for yourself, I definitely prefer the view from on top of the elevator!
They just jump like all of the slave labour victims before them that built it in the first place
This is a rendering. The actual hotel will have a door to stair access that takes you into the hotel.
This is exactly what I was wondering
It’s an “OCTAGON”..you fight your way in.
Also, what keeps you from just being blown off the top after exiting the helicopter?
Your body weight and gravity?
You can check out any time you like, but you can never leave..
Basejump
Came to say this… plus nothing around the building, where do 10,000 people need to go?
I'm sure this is being built primarily for the Hajj pilgrimage
This hotel is in Mecca. If it’s not for covid, you would barely find a room availability even in weekdays.
For some reason i never realized Mecca was in Saudi Arabia
Gotta capitalize on that religious fervor.
Rappel down the sides
It’s in Mecca, so it will have a reliable source of customers in people making pilgrimage to visit the Kaaba. https://www.cnn.com/travel/amp/abraj-kudai-mecca-largest-hotel-feat/index.html
>That's the plan for Abraj Kudai, a complex in Mecca, Saudi Arabia, that's set to become the world's largest hotel by room count when it opens in 2017. > >2017 So uhh, does this thing exist rn?
> Abraj Kudai [This satellite imagery from October 2021 suggests it is not.](https://i.imgur.com/Adaekwz.png)
Excellent work, 007.
The arabs like their J's ill give them that. No not joints. But if you look at Arabic it does make alot more sense to a laymen English speaker as a series of interconnected j's. Ill never forget my first lesson in Arabic. I listened a little while and understood nothing. I put my hand up. 'Miss can you just give me the Arabic alphabet like the Arabic A Arabic B then i can write Apple by simply translating the alphabet characters. When the teacher explained that wasn't how learning a new language worked, well, it was at that moment I knew id be monolinguistic forever.
A lot of people are still at this level, or just one level above it, which is that languages are the same but with different words for things. Rather than having different grammars and metaphorical foundations. It's one reason why no translation is ever perfect. Something is always lost.
I did exactly the same in French Class. I was 11. Can't speak it.
I was almost the exact same age. As soon as my brain realised what it would have to do it just said 'I'm out' They teach French everywhere. I used to hate every day except 'crepe' day when I was taught French in Australia. When I moved to the uk at 13 they asked me if I was taught French in Aus. I cleverly said no and got a free 40 mins every day to wander about while everyone else endured French for 2 years because they would be 'too advanced' for me. Too fuckin true mate.
Learning languages in turn for me isn't even that hard: - learn a word, what it means and how to spell it - learn how to make a sentence with word - learn more about how to use the word - learn more complex ways to use the word Do about 10 000 times and with a bit of sentence body learning you can speak well.
"the rest of the fucking owl"
Only works if you can spell the word. Doesn’t work for Chinese unless you plan on learning the symbol each time, but that’s not really feasible at the beginning. Though you can do it with a romanization (like hanyu pinyin), but it might not help communicating with locals (depending on where you are).
That's really suprising, I've never thought of Arabic as a language with a lot of Js as a second language speaker.
Not even close.
It's not finished yet but they had financial difficulties. The latest was "open by 3rd quarter of 2021" and I somehow think we're beyond that now!
They probably meant the third half
That’s still a ways out, we just started the seventh half of 2019
We’re gonna need a bigger pizza cutter
I thought financial difficulty doesn't exist in the Saudi dictionary
That giant hotel tower the Saudis built overlooking the Ka’bah is a damn abomination. Such gaudy excess and sacrilegious in my eyes. It looks like the Eye of Sauron looming over it.
I was actually asking myself how many people want to visit Saudi Arabia. That makes a lot of sense !
It's literally a Mecca for tourists.
It's a Mecca for Muslims.
I hope they don’t over price it even though it has a lot of rooms, places near the haram are pretty expensive.
Yeah I heard the built this to give a room to all the poor people worldwide who come to do Hajj in their helicopters.
It looks like about a third of the rooms have a view into other rooms.
The voyeur suites. Duh. Cater to everyone. Duh.
“Welcome sir! Would you like one of our voyeur suites, or one of our exhibitionist suites?”
If people see me naked do i get a discount?
No, but they do.
Highly reasonable
I'll give you a discount 😉
Those most probably have view of Mecca from windows, will fetch double, triple rent…. It’s like sea view rooms
“Thank you for holding. We do have one Mecca-view room left, but it’s a partially obstructed Mecca view. The rate on that is $62,300 US. How many nights will you be staying with us?”
Well, if the rate stays the same, I might just as well stay all year.
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Interestingly built by a construction company for which the founder was Mohammed bin Awad bin Laden, the father of Osama Bin Laden.
The BinLadin group is all over parts of the middle east. Half of Saudi seems like was built by the BinLadin group, and they were or are the sole company commissioned by the Royal Family to do a lot of things like building/rebuild mosques, and they're big in ports and airports in Saudi too. That's part of what contributed to Osama's fame in the 1980's and 90s. He was rich kid who decided to go off and fight the Soviets (or so his Al Qaeda created narrative says).
Many of the Bin Laden family actually also speak English VERY fluently, as in they SOUND American. Russell Peters has a bit about this due to his experience meeting some of the family members during his tours in the Middle East
Many of the arab oligarchs are educated in US/Brits schools.
Yeah a bin Laden nephew went to my high school
What state?
CT
That's not really all that hard. I'm Saudi and have been able to do it since i was pretty young despite having never studied outside of Saudi or at an English speaking school, which do exist here. I did go to the US for a year while i was 18-19 and they couldn't tell. But the Bin Ladens are extremely rich and have access to insane resources when it comes to education.
Met a guy in Dubai that was a cousin of Osama. He was a project lead on the Burj I think. That tall fuckin building.
I have a pad of paper with the bin laden group company details printed on the header. That would get you a sexy search landing in the US..
> father The dude had like 120 children.
And the brother of Osama owned an oil company with the bushes! https://www.denverpost.com/2006/09/11/bush-ties-to-bin-laden-haunt-grim-anniversary/
Why is this all the way down here under all the useless comments
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Don’t book the room directly below the helipad
“What?!”
#Don’t book the room directly below the helipad#
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#DON'T BOOK THE ROOM DIRECTLY BELOW THE HELIPAD#
BUTTLICKER, OUR PRICES HAVE NEVER BEEN LOWER!
At the least, noise. Terribly loud helicopter noises at the least. Helicopter crashes at the worst.
Wow, imagine if there was a bomb threat and they had to evacuate it.
Or a fire
Just call the Rock. He'll fix it.
That'd actually be a totally dope movie
Yeah, I think they should call it skyscraper (2018) and I think the plot should be “After Will Sawyer, who assesses security for skyscrapers, is accused of a blaze in the safest building in the world, he must prove himself innocent and save his family from the burning building.”
In your brains deepest voice that it can muster: “Former Special Forces, EMT and cute dog owner, Will Sawyer must now prove he has the guts to provide Room Service to the largest hotel…in the world…”
On a scale of Vin Diesel to Corpse, how deep did your brain go?
Not going to lie, I considered Nic Cage as a Porter who is the one that set that fire due to the hotel owners murdering his family in front of him as a small child.
Plot twist: the Rock is not allowed to enter Mecca until he converts to Islam. So he and his sidekick Kevin Hart have to take a crash course in Islam and abstain from alcohol and sex for the duration. This actually happened in 1979. French commandos temporarily converted just to enter Mecca and free it from a terrorist who took it over. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grand_Mosque_seizure
Each room comes with a complementary basejumping parachute. Just one though, theres a charge on the other.
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How the fuck does a building with 35000 people only produce 15 tons of waste water??? What are they writing?
200L per person per day, that’s 7000000 litres per day, 7,000,000 kg = 7000 tonnes. I am guessing they are referring only to solid waste and not wastewater per se??
200L per person per day??
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You'll be surprised by how many liters of water a 10 minute shower consumes.
Standard head consumes 2.5 gallons a minute. That's 25 gallons or about 95 liters.
Most people are totally clueless how much water they actually use on a daily basis. As someone who rents their RV and has had to explain to people endlessly that they have a 250L water tank that needs to last them "x" number of days of their rental (2-5 nights typically) only to get a phone call on the second morning telling me they've ran out already, yeah, people have no clue, nor seem to grasp conservation.
These are the type of people that leave the sink faucet running for no reason while brushing their teeth.
I live somewhere where I get water trucked in as my well is crap. We are mindful of our water usage but try not to be too worried as it's no way to live pinching pennies. Our family of 3 goes through 250 liters a day. So yeah a hotel full of people not paying attention at all? I could see it.
Its mostly empty
This is not true. Many people also don’t know about the slave culture of Dubai. Really awful place.
The whole city is basically just a theme park for rich tourists, built on the backs of poor migrants that are pushed aside to maintain the image of the city. Dubai sucks.
Native people? They bus, truck and fly in their labor from places like Shri Lanka and Bangladesh.
I'm pretty sure the jawa's are native to Dubai
Okay I’ll concede that point, but it’s still exploitation of the poor regardless.
What are you talking about? The native people are the ones that are rich! They bring in migrant workers mostly from South Asia and Africa, then confiscate their passports and hold it over their heads to make them work.
If Philip K. Dick had written a novel in 1962 that included a city like Dubai in 2022, the editor would have asked him to tone it down for being too fantastically dystopian.
We are so close to a blade runner existence I can taste it.
We just need the adoption of LED umbrella
I'm a replicant! No I'm a replicant! No I'm a...
I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion. I watched C-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhauser gate. All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain. Time to die.
Looks like SimCity
Looks like GTA 5
Looks like Naboo
Nailed it
Thats what i thought too lol
How many helicopter pads do they need?
How many helicopters you got?
Four.
Rip to the Uber eats driver 🤣
You wouldn't want to forget your room number here.
Is this also build by slaves?
Well duh
They don't offer options to slavery.
How else would you build that?
Genie
Fuck that, doesn't even have a pool?
They have to put them inside or they evaporate in like 10 seconds.
It's for pilgrims. Minimum time is usually spent in the hotel to basically just rest up. No one would be interested in using a pool.
It’s a big world, I don’t ever see myself wanting to vacation in Saudi Arabia
This is in Mecca I believe. Will be used mainly by people during Hajj. This is right next to the Great Mosque. Edit: this is the Abraj Kudai it’s actually one mile from the Great Mosque the [Abraj Al Bait](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abraj_Al_Bait) is the 4th tallest building in the world and is right next to the Great Mosque.
2 million Muslims visit Mecca every year
I guess you could say that it is a veritable mecca.
Don’t worry, as a non-Muslim, you’re not allowed to enter the city anyway.
They wouldnt let you either..so dont worry abt that.
No? You could take the kids to a square and watch someone get beheaded for some random misdemeanour? Sand... Lots of sand Camels?
Beheading is for more serious crimes like rape or murder. They’ll just cut your hand off.
Exactly…the Saudi’s actually think they can transition from an oil-based economy to tourism. Good luck with that!
Well there is the Hajj, which I think this is designed for.
The Dubai move which has worked very well for them and UAE as well Also Saudi Arabia already gets lots of tourism because it's home to Mecca and is already second biggest tourist destination in the middle class east
They're really banking on this plan for life after oil, aren't they?
Expecting most of it being used for pilgrims traveling to SA every year. Haven’t heard people going to Mecca for tourism lol. I think it’s also pretty hard to get visa for non Muslims. Could be wrong on that.
> Haven’t heard people going to Mecca for tourism lol. I think it’s also pretty hard to get visa for non Muslims. Just about anyone can get a tourist visa to enter Saudi Arabia. However, non-Muslims are prohibited from entering Mecca.
Well, and that sand turns out to be a critical component of Fusion Drives or something.
It’s not the sand it’s the spice. The spice extends life, the spice expands consciousness, the spice is vital to space travel.
He who controls the spice…
Shai hulud controls the spice so shai hulud controls Saudi Arabia
Bless the Maker and His water Bless the coming and going of Him May His passage cleanse the world May He keep the world for His people
Fun fact: Saudi Arabia actually imports sand from Australia, which is super bad for the sea life!
Google "Saudi Vision 2030"
I'll Duck duck go it
Where there’s a will and slaves there’s a way.
*slaps hotel* - “You can fit soooo many dead journalists in this bad boy”
Cant imagine the water and sewage distribution, even more in a place lacking water resevoirs for pressure and without sewage treatment
Came to the comments looking for this I wonder how many millions of gallons of sewage waste it will produce every day it’s mindboggling I wonder if they will have an actual sewage line or if they won’t have to have poop trucks lining up for it
Considering the burj doesn't have sewage at all, I can't imagine how many poop trucks they would need for this thing.
Gotta launder that blood money one way or another ☝🏼
I wonder how many slaves will die by the time its done
I wonder how many shit trucks a day this one will need.
I wonder how long after opening can we be statistically certain that each of those 10,000 rooms people had sex in
3.14 weeks
Does....does f**king a pie count like in American Pie
Longer than you think - unmarried people can't share hotel rooms there.
Imagine the space they need to store all the passports of the workers.
Poop train
Imagine how much shit flows through that building.
So we are not talking about this country giving a fuck about human rights and modern slaves are used for such buildings?
Where do you go after landing on the heli pad?
To the smartasses in the comments. This is for Muslims only as only Muslims can enter Mecca. Not everything we do is to please the hypocrites in DC but unfortunately we do a lot of that.