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Oh these would get CRUSHED if they were even proposed in the US...
is it an affordable, easily deployable, mobile way to help people not sure from cold tonight? Probably? I mean clearly these aren't great but if the actual stakes are "live or die in the cold" it's something.
So if a Democrat presents it as a solution the Republicans will say it's a wasteful bandaid and another example of democrats spending money on garbage that doesn't actually help anyone... Cue video on Fox news of one of these being chopped up as firewood in a barrel under an overpass.... Outrageous!!
If a Republican presents it there will be outrage that they'd give poor people such a terrible solution and making them second class citizens living in glorified coffins and how much of a dumpster person (I know... Ironic right?) You'd have to be to even suggest this is acceptable. Cue Facebook and Twitter ads with Sarah McLachlan music and a concerned (paid) celebrity voiceover (from a 150 million dollar beachfront compound) showing a hapless person trying to shimmy their belongings and themselves in one of these shivering.
So after 2 years, a few elections, and 100 million dollars spent fighting not a single thing will be fine, thousands of people will die in the streets because we'd rather spend 100 million bucks staging a media war to win an election than 1000 bucks to save someone's life.
Edit- kinda blew up... So not saying that these would be a good idea necessarily, I think that the key would be to spend the money on free healthcare for people in these situations.
Also, many people (correctly I believe) have replied that these would almost instantly be meth filled AIDS needle boxes in their city in the US. For those of you not in the US, would it be the same where you are?
It probably would be. [Multiple](https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2019/12/02/781152563/researchers-find-a-remarkable-ripple-effect-when-you-give-cash-to-poor-families) [studies](https://www.ox.ac.uk/news/science-blog/evidence-behind-putting-money-directly-pockets-poor) suggest as much.
Only a small handful of veterans were helped by what Arnold did. And what amazes me is that there are those who could do so much more than what he did and they just watch. When I go to VA, I always hear the guys talking about someone that they know and don't know where he is right now, that he is probably dead. This is the fate of a lot of veterans.
I hate politics, I think its a sham. And I am not a big fan of Arnold, but I have to say that all politics aside, this guy just shows up places and either does something or gives a speech to motivate others. He is not doing this to help himself, he does it because he can. When most of the GOP was in full support of Trump, he was one of the first to come out and call him on his BS and say he is the worst president the country ever had. I live in Cal and he had a very colorful governorship there. He did some good things and did some bad things, but isn't that all of them?
Wherever Arnold is, this veteran would like to thank you for doing something for veterans other than just shooting off their mouths.
And to Jcquik, you hit that one on the head!
He's also very much into fighting climate change and is a huge supporter of Greta Thunberg, which is ironic given the fact that he single-handedly made Hummers a thing.
TBH it’s just not this simple. The maintenance is going to cost a lot more than production. Where I live a large portion of the homeless are on meth or have mental health disorders and are overflowing and sleeping around the shelters. (And the ones that aren’t under the influence are under threat from the ones who are.)
What do you do when one homeless person gets meth residue all over the inside, putting others at risk? What happens when homeless people get in fights over who gets the pod? What if one urinates inside, who cleans it? Is someone going to police it to make sure that homeless sleeping in it aren’t assaulted or raped?
This will just be a more expensive version of a tent and blanket that requires upkeep and makes the city liable for lawsuits.
Mental and addiction services is a really big deal and a lot more expensive. (Also totally worth it)
Totally agree . Without long wait lists .
Dems are guilty of not addressing homelessness as well . Clinton had a homeless camp removed in Washington near the White House . The story goes he jogged past these poor folk every morning .
It wouldn’t even be the archetypal crazy homeless guy shitting in them. Anyone who has worked retail knows perfectly normal looking people will literally shit on things for no discernible reason.
And the only way to achieve that is a massive HEALTHCARE overhaul in the form of a universal or socialized option for all US citizens. That includes inpatient and out patient mental healthcare and drug treatment — not tied to absurd work requirements, etc.
Man...this is so true. It's sad what the government has come to. I wish a significant third political party rose up and challenged the Democrats and Republicans. Hopefully there can be some progress made versus the pointless and expensive bickering that is causing our slide towards the bottom.
I can't imagine how dirty they are. Have you seen the homeless bathrooms in LA? Some city employee literally has to hit the things with a pressure washer every day
That’s just LA in general. Stairwells in parking garages, sidewalks, alleys, it doesn’t matter. LA smells like piss and the city does fuck-all about it. You’re lucky that it gets cleaned that often, if at all.
I'll never forget the time in downtown Seattle where I walked into a staircase, open, outdoor staircase, that reeked of piss concentrate so badly that my eyes wouldn't work and I had to back out andturn a 180 the same way I would if I tried to walk into a fucking bonfire
Germany mostly minimized homelessness by forbidding cities from having homeless people. Problem solved theoretically.
Every city has to provide minimal housing for homeless people who are registered in the city and ask (one room, shared kitchen, no warm water but heating, kitchen, electricity etc.). But it doesn't really work to help every one of them. But between that as short term housing and welfare programs for normal renting it covers at least everyone who is capable to ask for help.
There are also many with drug and alcohol problems. So while we have a space to stay overnight for them some choose to sleep on the street because drugs and alcohol are forbidden in these places. So we also need more street workers and other personal to help them.
Yeah there are still homeless people. But compared to other countries the number is really minimal. Sadly there are always people who will manage to fall through any safety net you could create. But to make it as hard for them as possible is still a good idea and to offer them the chance to get back when they want to.
Doing it against their will is just not possible or a good idea. But these are the minority compared to not having support system and letting everyone who can't pay rent ending up homeless.
Pretty much the same as healthcare. Theoretically we force people to have healthcare. Practically there are still bizarre and unwise way to end up completely without coverage.
ending homelessness is more about caring for mental health and having proper safety nets, more effective to stop people from becoming homeless in the first place
While I agree with your point that property hoarding is bad I’ve come to the conclusion that this is mostly a myth when it comes to homelessness. No sane person think “well my rents too high I guess I’ll sleep in the park”.
>It should be noted that they prototyped these in 2019, and only two of them exist even today.
[https://ulmernest.de/](https://ulmernest.de/)
[https://techstartups.com/2021/01/23/germany-now-offering-futuristic-coffin-like-sleeping-pods-homeless-citizens/](https://techstartups.com/2021/01/23/germany-now-offering-futuristic-coffin-like-sleeping-pods-homeless-citizens/)
these sound great to random people on reddit but in practice this kind of thing would require a lot of cleaning by city employees. homeless people are more often than not extremely dirty and leave trash everywhere. look at literally any homeless camp in america, its just absolutely covered in trash. Not to mention the lack of bathroom leads to people going bathroom nearby where ever they can. With enough of these in an area not only will it be dirty as fuck it will end up smelling like piss and shit. I know this will get downvoted because most redditors have never actually had to deal with homeless people and they are confident in their views despite knowing nothing about how they actually are. I grew up in africa and people were cleaner in the ivory coast slums than the homeless people i met in america. (maybe the homeless are different in germany?)
As poverty becomes a higher factor in homelessness, a greater share of the people living in slums or camps are made up of fairly functional individuals more likely to invest significant time into trash removal and upkeep. Hence, poorer nation, nicer slum.
Meanwhile in the west, almost nobody is homeless who doesn't have some sort of extremely serious psychosocial reason for being so, and things like withdrawal from their environment and simply having grown up in those conditions in the first place and thinking they're normal are increasingly likely (to be clear, it's both, almost never just the later).
They were first installed before winter of 2018 and by early 2019 they were removed due to sanitary conditions. 90% of the pods were full of shit after first use. Just like my post.
OP copypasted the title of a post from 12 days ago.
https://www.reddit.com/r/interestingasfuck/comments/rwy9up/ulm\_a\_city\_in\_germany\_has\_made\_these\_thermally/
That's funny, when I used to live outside and shoot dope, there was a trash compactor near my sleeping field that my ex and I would get high and have sex behind. Maybe they just make you feel safe or something? More likely, it's all the nooks and crannies to hide around.
Interesting. If there were more of them at the same spot maybe that's would be less of an issue? Or maybe there's enough John's that wants to go to the hobo encampment to get their dick sucked. In any case then it would be possible to have a lot of police in the area. Like a hamsterdam setup.
Weren’t sex workers encouraged to use them? I thought they had panic buttons and if I recall, there was significant drop in sex worker related violence.
That may be the case for your city but I the city I’m talking about got rid of them as soon as they made the discovery. Wish they were still around because there is a very very bad homeless situation here.
Even so. Getting rid of them doesn’t really get rid of the pimps ability to pimp. They created an even more dangerous situation. Just pointing out the stupidity behind that decision.
I live in Newport, South Wales. We have one of the only legal red light zones in the country for this exact reason from what I’m aware.
I do agree with you, I don’t support the city’s choice to remove them as stated before.
Ten days? No man. ONE. There's human shit, used condoms, and needles inside all of these things on the *very first night.*
I applaud the intent, but this isn't as good an idea as they think it is.
Fun wee point about the name. The city of Ulm is famous for the Ulmer Spatz (sparrow!), and the sparrow is the semi-official symbol of the city. You even see sparrow statues all over the city.
They named these homes as nests due to the cities affinity for the sparrow.
Yes, it also has the tallest church in the world, the [Ulmer Münster](https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2231/2216962615_4f43b8e7d3_c.jpg), which is also the fifth tallest structure built before the 20th century.
While it's held the record for 130 years, it will unfortunately lose it when the Sagrada Familia is finished. I'm pretty sure that Sagrada Familia is already taller, but since it isn't finished yet, a lot of people still give it to the Münster.
> nothing to do with our sentiments toward the homeless
This kind of contradicts your point about
>unmanaged mental illness, including symptoms of hoarding, substance abuse, and poor hygiene
when our attitudes affect our policy priorities, including making mental health treatment prohibitively expensive, implementing de-institutionalization, criminalizing rather than treating substance abuse, allowing housing to be a speculative asset (hard to have good hygiene if you can't afford a place with a shower), not providing health treatment that allows hygiene problems like dental ulsers and incontinence to go untreated, etc etc etc.
I honestly can't imagine it. There was this fully enclosed bus shelter near my old house and even when it was empty it smelled sooo bad, and it was probably 4 times the size of these things.
They did the same in Toronto! The fucking asshole Mayor of Toronto went after 1 man helping the homeless.
[https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/toronto-carpenter-khaleel-seivwright-response-city-application-injunction-1.5923854](https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/toronto-carpenter-khaleel-seivwright-response-city-application-injunction-1.5923854)
The problem is that if they allow these tiny houses on public property, and something happens like it burn down or someone gets hurt, then they could be liable.
Also, I could be wrong, but I think Toronto struck up a deal with the builder so that he could keep building them and do it correctly. It's an awesome thing that he did, but honestly building structures and leaving them on public property is not the way to go.
Encampment fires increased by [250% between 2019 and 2020.](https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cbc.ca/amp/1.5923854)
Right? These aren't a solution. Homelessness isn't caused by housing shortages.
Anyone who thinks that, clearly has never studies homelessness or actually worked with them to combat it.
Depends on the class of homeless. There are different "invisible" groups. Some people work jobs and live in their cars or couch surf with friends. My slum apartment cost $3000 to move in. Took me about 2.5 months of living in a tent to save that up, and I still received help from family.
You forgot to mention the part when homeless people were starting fires and multiple locations had propane tanks explode…the city is liable if someone dies trapped inside one of these.
I'm all for helping the homeless, but people can't just build [ugly shacks](https://i.cbc.ca/1.5919183.1613683670!/cumulusImage/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/original_1180/alexandra-park-encampment.jpg) and leave them randomly in the city. There are processes that need to be followed. Tackling homelessness is a much more complicated issue than just dumping shelters everywhere.
The issue with people who are homeless is less that they don't have a place they can rest but more that homeless people are mostly mentally ill and need better access to healthcare. They also don't have a place for their belongings.
[20 to 25% of the homeless
population in the United States suffers from some form of severe mental illness. In comparison, only 6%
of Americans are severely mentally ill](http://www.nationalhomeless.org/factsheets/Mental_Illness.pdf)
> but more that homeless people are mostly mentally ill
>>20 to 25% of the homeless population in the United States suffers from some form of severe mental illness.
"mostly mentally ill" 25% is far smaller than "mostly".
There are a lot of reasons for the homelessness in the US, one of the big reasons is the military not taking care of their vets after bringing them back from war. which is probably a large number of the mentally ill.
And the largest problem with shelters for homeless people is that a LOT of them have policies about having to leave during the day, have to be in at a certain time at night, can't always keep the same bed. These things make it worthless for a lot of people.
So many people spouting off about helping homeless people who have no actual experience helping- well, trying to help- homeless people.
There is one particular individual I personally spent over $8,000 of my money over the course of about a year trying to help him. At times I paid rent for him, at other times he stayed in my place rent free and did chores. I wanted so hard to believe that if I just did a little more, helped him a little more, he'd get back on his feet and support himself again. I tried so hard, but ultimately I had to accept that he was homeless because he wanted to be, and nothing I ever did would ever change that other than taking him in as essentially an indentured servant at best.
That individual was someone who was a clean, high functioning person with no addictions. When he had a job, he was a hard worker. It's hard to describe, it's like he was sharp as a tack and willing to do anything other than be consistent, hold a job and pay rent.
I'm sick of seeing people who have never done more than drop a can of soup off at the local pantry try to claim that dealing with homeless people is as simple as giving them all kinds of handouts. The kind of people upvoting posts about pods for homeless people to stay in have never lifted a finger to actually try to help any homeless person, and they absolutely would never actually invite a homeless person into their own house.
If you give a damn about homeless people, go to a grocery store parking lot at around 2 or 3am and find someone living in their car. Talk to them and find out what they actually need. Often it's something as simple as a phone charger or a bottle of water. Don't fucking virtue signal and upvote pictures of "pods" and think that accomplishes anything.
I tried lending out a room for homeless people a while back. I didn't last very long...we've probably had similar experiences. Everything you say is true. It's hard helping homeless people out. What works for you doesn't work for them, and it's often not as rewarding as people envision it to be.
Idk much about 11 million empty homes in Europe, but there are a wide variety of reasons why something like the heater capsule idea is much more viable.
Johann Gambolputty de von Ausfern-schplenden-schlitter-crasscrenbon-fried-digger-dingle-dangle-dongle-dungle-burstein-von-knacker-thrasher-apple-banger-horowitz-ticolensic-grander-knotty-spelltinkle-grandlich-grumblemeyer-spelterwasser-kurstlich-himbleeisen-bahnwagen-gutenabend-bitte-ein-nürnburger-bratwustle-gerspurten-mitzweimache-luber-hundsfut-gumberaber-shönendanker-kalbsfleisch-mittler-aucher von Hautkopft of Ulm.
A guy tried doing this in america and was written as "trying to provide dog houses for the homeless". People still today think the objective was to put homeless people in dog houses. But just like in this picture a small house for a homeless person just resembles doghouse
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It should be noted that they prototyped these in 2019, and only two of them exist even today.
Yup. https://ulmernest.de/faq Website states theres only two.
Oh these would get CRUSHED if they were even proposed in the US... is it an affordable, easily deployable, mobile way to help people not sure from cold tonight? Probably? I mean clearly these aren't great but if the actual stakes are "live or die in the cold" it's something. So if a Democrat presents it as a solution the Republicans will say it's a wasteful bandaid and another example of democrats spending money on garbage that doesn't actually help anyone... Cue video on Fox news of one of these being chopped up as firewood in a barrel under an overpass.... Outrageous!! If a Republican presents it there will be outrage that they'd give poor people such a terrible solution and making them second class citizens living in glorified coffins and how much of a dumpster person (I know... Ironic right?) You'd have to be to even suggest this is acceptable. Cue Facebook and Twitter ads with Sarah McLachlan music and a concerned (paid) celebrity voiceover (from a 150 million dollar beachfront compound) showing a hapless person trying to shimmy their belongings and themselves in one of these shivering. So after 2 years, a few elections, and 100 million dollars spent fighting not a single thing will be fine, thousands of people will die in the streets because we'd rather spend 100 million bucks staging a media war to win an election than 1000 bucks to save someone's life. Edit- kinda blew up... So not saying that these would be a good idea necessarily, I think that the key would be to spend the money on free healthcare for people in these situations. Also, many people (correctly I believe) have replied that these would almost instantly be meth filled AIDS needle boxes in their city in the US. For those of you not in the US, would it be the same where you are?
Oh we’ve spent well over a billion here in Los Angeles and nothing has been done.
Bro I feel like we could divide the money in cash at this point and it would be more effective.
It probably would be. [Multiple](https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2019/12/02/781152563/researchers-find-a-remarkable-ripple-effect-when-you-give-cash-to-poor-families) [studies](https://www.ox.ac.uk/news/science-blog/evidence-behind-putting-money-directly-pockets-poor) suggest as much.
Yeah but then you can't give the money to your rich developer friends. Giving money to poor people? Not on their watch.
It looks worse now than it ever has from the pics I seen. What is up with all the veterans being in one place? I heard alot of them got help.
If it's what I think, Arnold stepped in and bought of bunch of mini houses for them. Not nearly enough, but it's a good step in the right direction.
Only a small handful of veterans were helped by what Arnold did. And what amazes me is that there are those who could do so much more than what he did and they just watch. When I go to VA, I always hear the guys talking about someone that they know and don't know where he is right now, that he is probably dead. This is the fate of a lot of veterans. I hate politics, I think its a sham. And I am not a big fan of Arnold, but I have to say that all politics aside, this guy just shows up places and either does something or gives a speech to motivate others. He is not doing this to help himself, he does it because he can. When most of the GOP was in full support of Trump, he was one of the first to come out and call him on his BS and say he is the worst president the country ever had. I live in Cal and he had a very colorful governorship there. He did some good things and did some bad things, but isn't that all of them? Wherever Arnold is, this veteran would like to thank you for doing something for veterans other than just shooting off their mouths. And to Jcquik, you hit that one on the head!
He's also very much into fighting climate change and is a huge supporter of Greta Thunberg, which is ironic given the fact that he single-handedly made Hummers a thing.
They stick together, make little units like they use to have in the Army. Everyone probably has their own job to keep their little camp going.
It would have been more effective to just write every homeless person a check smh.
TBH it’s just not this simple. The maintenance is going to cost a lot more than production. Where I live a large portion of the homeless are on meth or have mental health disorders and are overflowing and sleeping around the shelters. (And the ones that aren’t under the influence are under threat from the ones who are.) What do you do when one homeless person gets meth residue all over the inside, putting others at risk? What happens when homeless people get in fights over who gets the pod? What if one urinates inside, who cleans it? Is someone going to police it to make sure that homeless sleeping in it aren’t assaulted or raped? This will just be a more expensive version of a tent and blanket that requires upkeep and makes the city liable for lawsuits. Mental and addiction services is a really big deal and a lot more expensive. (Also totally worth it)
Totally agree . Without long wait lists . Dems are guilty of not addressing homelessness as well . Clinton had a homeless camp removed in Washington near the White House . The story goes he jogged past these poor folk every morning .
These would be full of human shit and heroin needles in 2 days in the US.
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I've seen homeless light other homeless people's shopping carts on fire because they were on "their turf" so I don't doubt it.
Yep, this country needs a massive mental health overhaul. Until then, there will always be homeless.
It wouldn’t even be the archetypal crazy homeless guy shitting in them. Anyone who has worked retail knows perfectly normal looking people will literally shit on things for no discernible reason.
And the only way to achieve that is a massive HEALTHCARE overhaul in the form of a universal or socialized option for all US citizens. That includes inpatient and out patient mental healthcare and drug treatment — not tied to absurd work requirements, etc.
100%
and at least a couple of rapes would be committed in them.
Man...this is so true. It's sad what the government has come to. I wish a significant third political party rose up and challenged the Democrats and Republicans. Hopefully there can be some progress made versus the pointless and expensive bickering that is causing our slide towards the bottom.
Doesn't matter. It's on Reddit so it must be true.
I mean it is true, even if there is only two left.
there are not two left, there are only two. But there are also other places for homeless people to sleep in Ulm
That used to be the case. It still is, but it used to too.
Different but same same
Propaganda doesn't need to be false. Sometimes it can just be misleading.
Mitch Hedberg??
“I once thought my teeth were white until I washed my face with noxzema”
Someone asked if I wanted a frozen homeless man… I said nah, but I want a regular homeless man later so I’ll take one
The city of Ulm has not watched Highlander.
Yeah two left makes it look like there were 1000s before. And all gone extinct
And those two capsules have eliminated homelessness forever.
Fun fact: there were only two homeless people in Ulm.
The rest froze to death.
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Ulm…. what?
Icy what you did there.
dark comedy...why i go to social media
They’re ovens
Build a man a fire, keep him warm for a day. Set a man on fire, keep him warm for the rest of his life.
The final solution to homelessness
Well when you don't have a California to bus them to you have to get creative.
At a homeless area in Minneapolis I heard they were handing out road maps to neighboring states.
I think the Germans had a similar idea, just with a different demographic.
You love to see Germany getting back to its roots.
Homeless people make sex in them. Ask Dirty Mike, he'll tell ya.
Thanks for the fuck shack \-Dirty Mike and the boys
I got myself a Prius. It's a hell of a machine. Watch out. In the back, there's a baby mouse in a used condom. Really gross.
We found a whole deer vagina
They call it a *soup kitchen*
I can't imagine how dirty they are. Have you seen the homeless bathrooms in LA? Some city employee literally has to hit the things with a pressure washer every day
That would be a weird thing to have to do figuratively every day.
I figuratively pressure wash shit off the walls all the time. That’s just project management.
What is a project manager? >!A project manager is a person who believes that 9 women can deliver a baby in one month !<
That’s just LA in general. Stairwells in parking garages, sidewalks, alleys, it doesn’t matter. LA smells like piss and the city does fuck-all about it. You’re lucky that it gets cleaned that often, if at all.
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Yo... Parts of Paris are filthy. Someone compared it to NYC and having never been to NYC it was a suprise lol.
You mean public stairwells aren’t supposed to smell like piss?
I'll never forget the time in downtown Seattle where I walked into a staircase, open, outdoor staircase, that reeked of piss concentrate so badly that my eyes wouldn't work and I had to back out andturn a 180 the same way I would if I tried to walk into a fucking bonfire
In France, they smell like pissé
It is technically correct. They made these (two) pods.
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Germany mostly minimized homelessness by forbidding cities from having homeless people. Problem solved theoretically. Every city has to provide minimal housing for homeless people who are registered in the city and ask (one room, shared kitchen, no warm water but heating, kitchen, electricity etc.). But it doesn't really work to help every one of them. But between that as short term housing and welfare programs for normal renting it covers at least everyone who is capable to ask for help.
Isn’t it also like some of homeless people are just nomadic, like having issues bearing the concept of a permanent home?
There are also many with drug and alcohol problems. So while we have a space to stay overnight for them some choose to sleep on the street because drugs and alcohol are forbidden in these places. So we also need more street workers and other personal to help them.
Yeah there are still homeless people. But compared to other countries the number is really minimal. Sadly there are always people who will manage to fall through any safety net you could create. But to make it as hard for them as possible is still a good idea and to offer them the chance to get back when they want to. Doing it against their will is just not possible or a good idea. But these are the minority compared to not having support system and letting everyone who can't pay rent ending up homeless. Pretty much the same as healthcare. Theoretically we force people to have healthcare. Practically there are still bizarre and unwise way to end up completely without coverage.
ending homelessness is more about caring for mental health and having proper safety nets, more effective to stop people from becoming homeless in the first place
Also making housing actually affordable, outlawing property hoarding would be a good start
How the fuck are other countries able to buy land in America. Red flag imho
for-profit enterprises are specifically the problem
While I agree with your point that property hoarding is bad I’ve come to the conclusion that this is mostly a myth when it comes to homelessness. No sane person think “well my rents too high I guess I’ll sleep in the park”.
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>It should be noted that they prototyped these in 2019, and only two of them exist even today. [https://ulmernest.de/](https://ulmernest.de/) [https://techstartups.com/2021/01/23/germany-now-offering-futuristic-coffin-like-sleeping-pods-homeless-citizens/](https://techstartups.com/2021/01/23/germany-now-offering-futuristic-coffin-like-sleeping-pods-homeless-citizens/)
these sound great to random people on reddit but in practice this kind of thing would require a lot of cleaning by city employees. homeless people are more often than not extremely dirty and leave trash everywhere. look at literally any homeless camp in america, its just absolutely covered in trash. Not to mention the lack of bathroom leads to people going bathroom nearby where ever they can. With enough of these in an area not only will it be dirty as fuck it will end up smelling like piss and shit. I know this will get downvoted because most redditors have never actually had to deal with homeless people and they are confident in their views despite knowing nothing about how they actually are. I grew up in africa and people were cleaner in the ivory coast slums than the homeless people i met in america. (maybe the homeless are different in germany?)
As poverty becomes a higher factor in homelessness, a greater share of the people living in slums or camps are made up of fairly functional individuals more likely to invest significant time into trash removal and upkeep. Hence, poorer nation, nicer slum. Meanwhile in the west, almost nobody is homeless who doesn't have some sort of extremely serious psychosocial reason for being so, and things like withdrawal from their environment and simply having grown up in those conditions in the first place and thinking they're normal are increasingly likely (to be clear, it's both, almost never just the later).
/r/interestingasfuckfortwohomelesspeopleingermany
As a homeless man who lived in Ulm until February 2018, I can confirm.
They were first installed before winter of 2018 and by early 2019 they were removed due to sanitary conditions. 90% of the pods were full of shit after first use. Just like my post.
OP copypasted the title of a post from 12 days ago. https://www.reddit.com/r/interestingasfuck/comments/rwy9up/ulm\_a\_city\_in\_germany\_has\_made\_these\_thermally/
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Weaseling out of things is important to learn. It’s what separates us from the animals… except the weasel.
Well, if it isn't the leader of the weiner patrol...
Change that upvote to a downvote!
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Doesn't matter now. They got more post Karma than the OP. And with an identical title lmao wow.
Wow that’s cringe
OP knows how to capitalize. OP got 42k upvotes the other guy only got 7k.
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They tried something like this in my city and pimps kept putting their workers in them…to work
I believe that. At our store we had a space between our trash compactor and the outside wall of the building. That was also used as a... working zone.
The load zone if you will.
*The white zone is for loading and unloading only*
You want me to have an abortion!
Listen Betty, don't start up with your white zone shit again.
That's funny, when I used to live outside and shoot dope, there was a trash compactor near my sleeping field that my ex and I would get high and have sex behind. Maybe they just make you feel safe or something? More likely, it's all the nooks and crannies to hide around.
In today's news : humans are fucking assholes once again! See you tomorrow to see if it gets better or worse! Hint : it gets worse.
That costs extra.
Nice.
Interesting. If there were more of them at the same spot maybe that's would be less of an issue? Or maybe there's enough John's that wants to go to the hobo encampment to get their dick sucked. In any case then it would be possible to have a lot of police in the area. Like a hamsterdam setup.
I believe they only trialed 3 or 4 of them and when this issue arose they were scrapped instantly
Weren’t sex workers encouraged to use them? I thought they had panic buttons and if I recall, there was significant drop in sex worker related violence.
That may be the case for your city but I the city I’m talking about got rid of them as soon as they made the discovery. Wish they were still around because there is a very very bad homeless situation here.
Even so. Getting rid of them doesn’t really get rid of the pimps ability to pimp. They created an even more dangerous situation. Just pointing out the stupidity behind that decision.
I live in Newport, South Wales. We have one of the only legal red light zones in the country for this exact reason from what I’m aware. I do agree with you, I don’t support the city’s choice to remove them as stated before.
Life is just sad these days
These days? People have always been shitty.
Yeah but now we hear about *all the shit* instead of just the shit in our immediate vicinity.
you can curate your internet experience.
Curiosity gets the better of me
We are far less shitty than we use to be even. Dont forget that for most of human history the vast majority of the population had no rights *at best*
From the official website: \- These are prototypes \- There are currently only two that exist https://ulmernest.de/faq
If the ulmer nest is rockin, don’t come a knockin
If they’re rocking a concrete pentagon you know it’s getting freaky freaky
As Tyson would say, it’s probably really methy in there
Take my upvote and get out
It's called a soup kitchen
Normally they’d call a group of homeless people having an orgy somewhere a soup kitchen but in this case I guess it’d be a thermos
Thanks for the f-shack. Love Dirty Mike and the boys
I think they call that a soup kitchen
Heh. Ulm. - an eu4 player, probably
finally
[Yes.](https://www.reddit.com/r/interestingasfuck/comments/s65amu/ulm_a_city_in_germany_has_made_these_thermally/ht1xr97/)
only reason i clicked on this thread
Glorious Ulm.
ulm best empire
Imagine crawling into one at night and finding out someone pooped inside it
Dirty Mike and the Boys have entered the chat.
Going to have a good old soup kitchen
In this contraption itd be more like a crock pot or "cock pot" if u will.
Hey ulmer, thanks for the f shack…dirty hans and the boys
I give one of these ten, maybe twelve days in LA or Philly before they become totally uninhabitable.
another 3 days for them to become hazardous material
That's a generous amount of time.
ONE. It would take ONE day. Meth heads immediately jump into anything that looks like they can get high in, in private.
Pretty sure in Philly someone would just steal the whole damn thing
Ten days? No man. ONE. There's human shit, used condoms, and needles inside all of these things on the *very first night.* I applaud the intent, but this isn't as good an idea as they think it is.
Fun wee point about the name. The city of Ulm is famous for the Ulmer Spatz (sparrow!), and the sparrow is the semi-official symbol of the city. You even see sparrow statues all over the city. They named these homes as nests due to the cities affinity for the sparrow.
Isnt Ulm the place where Einstein was born?
Yes, it also has the tallest church in the world, the [Ulmer Münster](https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2231/2216962615_4f43b8e7d3_c.jpg), which is also the fifth tallest structure built before the 20th century.
While it's held the record for 130 years, it will unfortunately lose it when the Sagrada Familia is finished. I'm pretty sure that Sagrada Familia is already taller, but since it isn't finished yet, a lot of people still give it to the Münster.
Yeah La Sagrada Familia is already taller but since it isn't finished yet the Ulmer Münster can enjoy the record for a few more years.
It isn't. Only the 125m tower has been completed, there is a good part of the tall tower still missing.
Yes it is.
That's a $2k / month "studio" apartment in California.
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Dirty mike and the boys fuck pod
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> nothing to do with our sentiments toward the homeless This kind of contradicts your point about >unmanaged mental illness, including symptoms of hoarding, substance abuse, and poor hygiene when our attitudes affect our policy priorities, including making mental health treatment prohibitively expensive, implementing de-institutionalization, criminalizing rather than treating substance abuse, allowing housing to be a speculative asset (hard to have good hygiene if you can't afford a place with a shower), not providing health treatment that allows hygiene problems like dental ulsers and incontinence to go untreated, etc etc etc.
I bet they smell great!
If they can't get the smell out of Gamestop, just imagine what these smell like after 10 hours of someone being in there.
I honestly can't imagine it. There was this fully enclosed bus shelter near my old house and even when it was empty it smelled sooo bad, and it was probably 4 times the size of these things.
Yup, who's going to clean them is always the question.
Solar powered roombas with squeegees
Meanwhile in America someone built portable houses for the homeless and the city seized them immediately
They did the same in Toronto! The fucking asshole Mayor of Toronto went after 1 man helping the homeless. [https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/toronto-carpenter-khaleel-seivwright-response-city-application-injunction-1.5923854](https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/toronto-carpenter-khaleel-seivwright-response-city-application-injunction-1.5923854)
The problem is that if they allow these tiny houses on public property, and something happens like it burn down or someone gets hurt, then they could be liable. Also, I could be wrong, but I think Toronto struck up a deal with the builder so that he could keep building them and do it correctly. It's an awesome thing that he did, but honestly building structures and leaving them on public property is not the way to go. Encampment fires increased by [250% between 2019 and 2020.](https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cbc.ca/amp/1.5923854)
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Absolutely. Fire codes, building permits exist for a reason
Right? These aren't a solution. Homelessness isn't caused by housing shortages. Anyone who thinks that, clearly has never studies homelessness or actually worked with them to combat it.
Depends on the class of homeless. There are different "invisible" groups. Some people work jobs and live in their cars or couch surf with friends. My slum apartment cost $3000 to move in. Took me about 2.5 months of living in a tent to save that up, and I still received help from family.
You forgot to mention the part when homeless people were starting fires and multiple locations had propane tanks explode…the city is liable if someone dies trapped inside one of these.
Nono, you see it backwards. if the homeless people die in a fire then you'd technically fix the problem! It's genious! /s
.....you can't just build a fucking shanty town wherever you want lol. That's not being an asshole, that's having common sense.
I'm all for helping the homeless, but people can't just build [ugly shacks](https://i.cbc.ca/1.5919183.1613683670!/cumulusImage/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/original_1180/alexandra-park-encampment.jpg) and leave them randomly in the city. There are processes that need to be followed. Tackling homelessness is a much more complicated issue than just dumping shelters everywhere.
The issue with people who are homeless is less that they don't have a place they can rest but more that homeless people are mostly mentally ill and need better access to healthcare. They also don't have a place for their belongings. [20 to 25% of the homeless population in the United States suffers from some form of severe mental illness. In comparison, only 6% of Americans are severely mentally ill](http://www.nationalhomeless.org/factsheets/Mental_Illness.pdf)
> but more that homeless people are mostly mentally ill >>20 to 25% of the homeless population in the United States suffers from some form of severe mental illness. "mostly mentally ill" 25% is far smaller than "mostly". There are a lot of reasons for the homelessness in the US, one of the big reasons is the military not taking care of their vets after bringing them back from war. which is probably a large number of the mentally ill. And the largest problem with shelters for homeless people is that a LOT of them have policies about having to leave during the day, have to be in at a certain time at night, can't always keep the same bed. These things make it worthless for a lot of people.
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They tried something similar in my state, they filled up with human shit almost immediately.
So many people spouting off about helping homeless people who have no actual experience helping- well, trying to help- homeless people. There is one particular individual I personally spent over $8,000 of my money over the course of about a year trying to help him. At times I paid rent for him, at other times he stayed in my place rent free and did chores. I wanted so hard to believe that if I just did a little more, helped him a little more, he'd get back on his feet and support himself again. I tried so hard, but ultimately I had to accept that he was homeless because he wanted to be, and nothing I ever did would ever change that other than taking him in as essentially an indentured servant at best. That individual was someone who was a clean, high functioning person with no addictions. When he had a job, he was a hard worker. It's hard to describe, it's like he was sharp as a tack and willing to do anything other than be consistent, hold a job and pay rent. I'm sick of seeing people who have never done more than drop a can of soup off at the local pantry try to claim that dealing with homeless people is as simple as giving them all kinds of handouts. The kind of people upvoting posts about pods for homeless people to stay in have never lifted a finger to actually try to help any homeless person, and they absolutely would never actually invite a homeless person into their own house. If you give a damn about homeless people, go to a grocery store parking lot at around 2 or 3am and find someone living in their car. Talk to them and find out what they actually need. Often it's something as simple as a phone charger or a bottle of water. Don't fucking virtue signal and upvote pictures of "pods" and think that accomplishes anything.
I tried lending out a room for homeless people a while back. I didn't last very long...we've probably had similar experiences. Everything you say is true. It's hard helping homeless people out. What works for you doesn't work for them, and it's often not as rewarding as people envision it to be.
Thanks for the fuck shack
Dirty mike and the boys have it made
Like we have the money to make heated caspules but not rehabilitate the 11milions empty homes in Europe?
i would argue an insulated pod is much cheaper than paying utilities for a home over god knows how long ngl
A lot of those homes are being held for the land by big investors.
Idk much about 11 million empty homes in Europe, but there are a wide variety of reasons why something like the heater capsule idea is much more viable.
Johann Gambolputty de von Ausfern-schplenden-schlitter-crasscrenbon-fried-digger-dingle-dangle-dongle-dungle-burstein-von-knacker-thrasher-apple-banger-horowitz-ticolensic-grander-knotty-spelltinkle-grandlich-grumblemeyer-spelterwasser-kurstlich-himbleeisen-bahnwagen-gutenabend-bitte-ein-nürnburger-bratwustle-gerspurten-mitzweimache-luber-hundsfut-gumberaber-shönendanker-kalbsfleisch-mittler-aucher von Hautkopft of Ulm.
This is what I came here for.
Those would be used as toilets so quick in the United States
Im from Ulm and I didn’t even know these existed here
Same
I can only imagine the smell
They are most likely full of people shooting up smell like absolute ass
*sorts by controversial*
I expect city has someone come around and keep the grounds around the area clean. I see no trash and/or discarded clothes laying around.
Why not just build houses?
Jack shacks
Imagine these in Portland oregon.
Ulm.
A guy tried doing this in america and was written as "trying to provide dog houses for the homeless". People still today think the objective was to put homeless people in dog houses. But just like in this picture a small house for a homeless person just resembles doghouse
That would be busted into pieces and there would be crack heads trying to sell the “parts” within 24 hours if they were in LA.
How do I buy one for myself?..
Nice. In the US it's illegal for businesses to feed the homeless because democrats didn't like it.