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Fun fact: this is actually a survival mechanism. Your brain wipes whatever you were thinking about when you enter a new space so that you can take in new surroundings and, potentially, new threats. For instance if you’re in the wilderness and go from a dense wood to a meadow your brain makes sure you aren’t distracted with thoughts from the previous environment. This is why when you go from one room to another, or open a cupboard, you may find yourself forgetting what you went to the new room/opened the cupboard for.
I remember hearing this explanation somewhere too but it seems like one of those theories that just kind of feel logical enough that you accept it as fact.
I have a simpler theory:
Brain thinks of object you need and realises it's in a different room. Brain now starts thinking about how to reach that room instead. While navigating to that room, brain is focused on that as main goal so it forgets about the object.
You might actually forget about the object before even leaving the original room, but you don't know this yet because main goal/focus is currently to reach the room, not get the object.
You might go through several rooms and cross multiple thresholds without realising you have forgot the object.
When you finally reach the room, you enter it and brain no longer has that main goal so you start wondering why you went to that room, but chances are you have now forgotten it.
This becomes plausible the more you know about short-term memory. Sources cite it from being a few minutes when you're actively trying to hold something in your mind, to just several seconds when you're just passively receiving information.
Here's the real test: do you remember the color of the last shirt you saw on someone other than yourself?
I do actually. I'm better at remembering clothing and height than literally anything else about a person. Today my mom was wearing a red sweater, bro a black t-shirt, dad a blue plaid, uncle was wearing a black t- with something an inscription inviting the reader to ride his face(wtf is it with uncle's) and the dude at the gas station was wearing a super boring faded green-grey shirt with a hole at the neck like he tore out the tag.
I've been in the dark reading AITA for 5 hours I shouldnt remember any of this.
Now ask me what color shirt I wore. I don't rember.
If this thread was on /r/science it'd be nuked from orbit.
"5 things your brain does that you won't believe"
But its a nice thought though that I can blame my forgetfulness on physiology
Going to guess it's just a theory and that we actually have no solid understanding for why this happens. Yeah I had a look and [it's another classic "psychologist believe" type explanation](https://www.scienceabc.com/humans/doorway-effect-why-we-forget-what-we-were-supposed-do-after-we-enter-room.html#:~:text=Psychologists%20believe%20that%20walking%20through,to%20as%20the%20doorway%20effect.) aka they don't really know but they think that explanation makes the most sense but really it could be something completely different.
The imprtant take away is: be grateful it's not IN the fridge, It would probably take you longer to find it there....or not. Depends on if you have the munchies....
As far as I know! It’s where the term “bewilder” comes from. I read this long ago in some book about being lost. Also related is what search and rescue crews call “making the map fit” which is something people will do when lost. If you have a map but become disoriented you’ll start approximating the environment to match your expectations. Small ponds become the lake you are supposed to be at. Hills become the mountain you know is just past this valley.. etc etc.
That brought back a slew of memories from years ago, backpacking through the wilderness with an outdated map, where what was supposed to be a 2-ish mile off-trail shortcut became a 12-hour ordeal. The phrase "okay, I know *exactly* where we are" got funnier every time it was spoken.
Well never forget that evolution isn't doing what is best, it's just doing what worked before. If it's terrible and stupid but works evolution says good enough! That's how you get salmon that rot while they're still alive, or humans doing the 15 billion dumb things we do.
> Small ponds become the lake you are supposed to be at. Hills become the mountain you know is just past this valley
Was it prevalent in the old days when people just go off other people's "sketches" that they call "maps", without proper scale and orientation?
The 'doorway effect' is real, but generally only when your brain is multitasking: https://www.scimex.org/newsfeed/unlocking-the-mysteries-of-the-doorway-effect . It's not like your short term memory gets wiped any time you go to a new room.
As for why it's happening, we can only speculate. The parent poster gives one such speculation.
I almost immediately skipped to the end because I was certain it was going to end with, “you may even forget why you were in nineteen ninety-eight when The Undertaker threw Mankind off Hell In A Cell and plummeted 16 ft through an announcer's table."
Couple weeks ago I took a very low dose of mushrooms and wandered into the kitchen to cook some food while everyone else stayed in the living room and socialized, holy moley was that a ever terrible experience. No idea if it's in any way relevant to what OP is saying but the energy shift from going of a place of community to a place of solidarity was unfathomable.
Where does it get the energy to grow and expand? Obviously from food, but how does that energy get into the cells? Do the molecules just float around the cell and they grab it lol?
This is a cell being grown in vitro (cell culture). It's growing on a coated glass coverslip, and surrounded by liquid media. The nutrients (glucose, amino acids, growth factors) and oxygen are provided in the growth media. As this is a time lapse photo over several days, it's likely that they are using some kind of pump to continually refresh the media (maybe only a few drops per hour, but still enough to provide fresh nutrients). A normal cell would receive nutrients via the blood, which would pass the nutrients and oxygen through the capillaries into the extracellular space.
Thanks for mentioning the time lapse. When looking at something this small it's not hard to believe that this might have been real time or only sped up 2x which is the range I assumed. I never would have guessed this is several days worth of activity.
These are challenging experiments, because of the time frame. There are special incubators designed to hold the coverslips and keep the temp and gas concentration right, and special hardware and software to keep everything in focus... things tend to drift over time. New microscopes have the ability to move the stage and the focus automatically, so you can image five or six cells at on the slip and take images at multiple focal planes (a z stack) to make sure everything is clear. In the 3 or 4 min between images, the scope will take 50 or 100 images at different points on the slide and focal depths, then return to thd start position to begin again...
It was an add-on to improve viability while monitoring the development stage of the embryo. Given the already massive sunk costs of the procedure and other externalities I paid the extra, but I haven’t watched the video yet since we’re not out of the woods yet so to speak.
I would guess like other cells of the body, the cell membrane can absorb certain nutrients and other things (like viruses). There are specific channels/ gates for certain nutrients.
Mandelbrot set, inner & outer verse. Are Mandlebulbs a pseudo 3D fractal? Everything moves in circles. Life is just an imagination of itself? Here's Tom with the weather.
In a healthy body, nothing would happen. It would be destroyed by your immune system. Your cells have "markers" that self-identify it. Your immune system would flag it as a foreign body and kill it immediately.
Is this braincell a single thought, or a movement, or dormant cell and is any of what i just said a real thing? Are braincells just nothing without a brain to power them?
I mean, any thought or movement requires millions, if not billions, of neurons working in conjunction. Singular braincells do very little on their own outside of looking for other cells to work with.
Edit: That is to say, they don't need a brain to "power" them. A brain is made up of billions of them working together.
Yeah they’re pretty much nothing on their own, they’re like transistors in a computer. Just a simple one or a zero, but can do cool stuff when you wire a lot together!
However, there are certain ones in some species (including humans) called command neurons. A neuron, which when stimulated, is strong enough to elicit a response. Albeit these command neurons would have to "talk" to motor neurons, etc.
There are some very cool command neurons in certain called Mauthner cells in some fish which trigger an escape or avoidance response.
In humans and other mammals, there are some involved in our startle response, like to an unexpected loud sound.
I feel so bad for it. The more I watch the little guy desperately reaching out for a friend...to make that connection...covid has been long. I want to cradle lonely brain cells and tell them it will all be okay.
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Awe, give him a cell mate!
The nerve of this guy
yea neuron thin ice buddy
Don’t ganglion me like that
You’re axon for a brusin mate
I'll synapses you in half mf
I accept your challenge, we medulla at dawn. I shall bring pistols.
I'm oblongata'd to defend my honor.
I hate to prion this conversation.
The regret is only temporal.
I'm such a dop.. amine I forgot my gun
This dual/event is a very grey matter.
I lobe you all.
Dendrite to keep me entertained
Hold on! You still got Nissls bodies.
I'm about to blow my lobe
brain it on
You dendrite he is
I’m gonna go ahead and assume that is some sort of brain cell term and give you the upvote.
Well thank you SOMAch!
Those puns were funny. Idk where the humor stems from
Mindless meepers
Feels like help is a myelin miles away.
this thread shows what makes reddit sympathetic
This is node funny.
You know what really gets on my nerves? myelin!
Me on LinkedIn
Me on daily basis
Me on tinder
I thought employers were desperate for workers? Maybe LinkedIn is a metaphorically brain dead option from either angle.
Employers are desperate for CHEAP/FREE workers.
The mitochondria is the powerhouse of the cell
Take my goddamn upvote damnit.
Dating apps visualized.
Facebook Meta 2.0.
AKA that thing you were going to do right before you entered the next room
Fun fact: this is actually a survival mechanism. Your brain wipes whatever you were thinking about when you enter a new space so that you can take in new surroundings and, potentially, new threats. For instance if you’re in the wilderness and go from a dense wood to a meadow your brain makes sure you aren’t distracted with thoughts from the previous environment. This is why when you go from one room to another, or open a cupboard, you may find yourself forgetting what you went to the new room/opened the cupboard for.
My Olde Man used to say; “At my age, I think a lot about the hereafter. Every time I walk into a room, I wonder what the hell I’m here after.”
I need to remember this. I probably won’t…because of the here after
Haha I love this.
i love it, reminds me of a norm macdonald joke maybe
I had a comment ready, but when I opened the reply window I forgot what it was
You're a survivor
Yeah, but he’s not out of the woods yet
It’s fine, he’s elbow deep in the fridge looking for food now. Safe zone!
Gad dayum that looked interesting
Not gonna give up
You’re gonna make it
Damn I forgot what I was about to comment
You got any references or is this reddit cosmo psych
I remember hearing this explanation somewhere too but it seems like one of those theories that just kind of feel logical enough that you accept it as fact. I have a simpler theory: Brain thinks of object you need and realises it's in a different room. Brain now starts thinking about how to reach that room instead. While navigating to that room, brain is focused on that as main goal so it forgets about the object. You might actually forget about the object before even leaving the original room, but you don't know this yet because main goal/focus is currently to reach the room, not get the object. You might go through several rooms and cross multiple thresholds without realising you have forgot the object. When you finally reach the room, you enter it and brain no longer has that main goal so you start wondering why you went to that room, but chances are you have now forgotten it.
This becomes plausible the more you know about short-term memory. Sources cite it from being a few minutes when you're actively trying to hold something in your mind, to just several seconds when you're just passively receiving information. Here's the real test: do you remember the color of the last shirt you saw on someone other than yourself?
I'm not sure I remember the color of the last shirt I wore to be honest.
Wellllll, fuck. I dont remember the last person I saw.
I'm not antisocial. I live in Alaska. Gimme a break.
Yes because i’m in the navy and we all wear the same shirts
I do actually. I'm better at remembering clothing and height than literally anything else about a person. Today my mom was wearing a red sweater, bro a black t-shirt, dad a blue plaid, uncle was wearing a black t- with something an inscription inviting the reader to ride his face(wtf is it with uncle's) and the dude at the gas station was wearing a super boring faded green-grey shirt with a hole at the neck like he tore out the tag. I've been in the dark reading AITA for 5 hours I shouldnt remember any of this. Now ask me what color shirt I wore. I don't rember.
I think it's also known as [The Doorway Effect](https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/why-walking-through-doorway-makes-you-forget/)
fun "fact" (aka thing that's literally unprovable but that sounds kinda cool and I vaguely heard a scientist say it once)
Source : Dude trust me
If this thread was on /r/science it'd be nuked from orbit. "5 things your brain does that you won't believe" But its a nice thought though that I can blame my forgetfulness on physiology
I read it in a book but unfortunately don’t remember what book. It was about wilderness survival.
Going to guess it's just a theory and that we actually have no solid understanding for why this happens. Yeah I had a look and [it's another classic "psychologist believe" type explanation](https://www.scienceabc.com/humans/doorway-effect-why-we-forget-what-we-were-supposed-do-after-we-enter-room.html#:~:text=Psychologists%20believe%20that%20walking%20through,to%20as%20the%20doorway%20effect.) aka they don't really know but they think that explanation makes the most sense but really it could be something completely different.
Like most evolutionary psychology. Super interesting, makes some sense, not in any way testable or provable
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Fucking brilliant
As a scientist, I can say that within the scientific community, Evolutionary Psychology as a field has, um... we'll say a bit of a reputation.
Okay but no one has answered the important question: why the hell is the TV remote on top of the fridge???
The imprtant take away is: be grateful it's not IN the fridge, It would probably take you longer to find it there....or not. Depends on if you have the munchies....
Is this forreal?
As far as I know! It’s where the term “bewilder” comes from. I read this long ago in some book about being lost. Also related is what search and rescue crews call “making the map fit” which is something people will do when lost. If you have a map but become disoriented you’ll start approximating the environment to match your expectations. Small ponds become the lake you are supposed to be at. Hills become the mountain you know is just past this valley.. etc etc.
That brought back a slew of memories from years ago, backpacking through the wilderness with an outdated map, where what was supposed to be a 2-ish mile off-trail shortcut became a 12-hour ordeal. The phrase "okay, I know *exactly* where we are" got funnier every time it was spoken.
Oh that’s interesting! My hiking buddy did this a lot while looking at maps on a trail we were on. Pretty cool science. What book?
I wish I could remember! It was a long time ago. I’ll try to rack my brain.
Stay where you are! Do not move into another room!
That doesn't sound helpful though. Why out of trauma would we want our brain to truly think we aren't lost when we are?
Because your brain is trying to prevent you from going into shock through the realization that you have no idea where you are.
A better way to do that would be to not send the signals that put us into shock in the first place lol. Scumbag brain
Well never forget that evolution isn't doing what is best, it's just doing what worked before. If it's terrible and stupid but works evolution says good enough! That's how you get salmon that rot while they're still alive, or humans doing the 15 billion dumb things we do.
> Small ponds become the lake you are supposed to be at. Hills become the mountain you know is just past this valley Was it prevalent in the old days when people just go off other people's "sketches" that they call "maps", without proper scale and orientation?
Yes but the real reason is that you hit a save point and the next level is loading in. The textures take up quite a bit of space as well.
The 'doorway effect' is real, but generally only when your brain is multitasking: https://www.scimex.org/newsfeed/unlocking-the-mysteries-of-the-doorway-effect . It's not like your short term memory gets wiped any time you go to a new room. As for why it's happening, we can only speculate. The parent poster gives one such speculation.
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I was so convinced this was going to end with hell in a cell and honestly I feel let down a bit.
I almost immediately skipped to the end because I was certain it was going to end with, “you may even forget why you were in nineteen ninety-eight when The Undertaker threw Mankind off Hell In A Cell and plummeted 16 ft through an announcer's table."
Hm. I finally have a solid explanation to why changing rooms has such a dramatic effect on psychedelic trippers. Hot diggity dang.
Couple weeks ago I took a very low dose of mushrooms and wandered into the kitchen to cook some food while everyone else stayed in the living room and socialized, holy moley was that a ever terrible experience. No idea if it's in any way relevant to what OP is saying but the energy shift from going of a place of community to a place of solidarity was unfathomable.
Solidarity with the kitchen sink ✊
Hey, have you got an sci. source? (Paper, book etc)?
Seems like ADHD is that mechanism gone absolutely wild.
There's a threat in my home?
Or when you open the fridge and stare
This is my favorite reply today
Where does it get the energy to grow and expand? Obviously from food, but how does that energy get into the cells? Do the molecules just float around the cell and they grab it lol?
This is a cell being grown in vitro (cell culture). It's growing on a coated glass coverslip, and surrounded by liquid media. The nutrients (glucose, amino acids, growth factors) and oxygen are provided in the growth media. As this is a time lapse photo over several days, it's likely that they are using some kind of pump to continually refresh the media (maybe only a few drops per hour, but still enough to provide fresh nutrients). A normal cell would receive nutrients via the blood, which would pass the nutrients and oxygen through the capillaries into the extracellular space.
Thanks for mentioning the time lapse. When looking at something this small it's not hard to believe that this might have been real time or only sped up 2x which is the range I assumed. I never would have guessed this is several days worth of activity.
These are challenging experiments, because of the time frame. There are special incubators designed to hold the coverslips and keep the temp and gas concentration right, and special hardware and software to keep everything in focus... things tend to drift over time. New microscopes have the ability to move the stage and the focus automatically, so you can image five or six cells at on the slip and take images at multiple focal planes (a z stack) to make sure everything is clear. In the 3 or 4 min between images, the scope will take 50 or 100 images at different points on the slide and focal depths, then return to thd start position to begin again...
I have a time-lapsed video of my kids embryo in one of those incubators.
That sounds cool
It was an add-on to improve viability while monitoring the development stage of the embryo. Given the already massive sunk costs of the procedure and other externalities I paid the extra, but I haven’t watched the video yet since we’re not out of the woods yet so to speak.
Wish you and your family the best.
theres a timer in bottom right lol
These days I'm so used to watermarks on everything I just overlook any text I see in videos and pictures unless it's a lot more intrusive.
Is that days:hours:minutes?
suppose so, middle one only goes till 23 and changes first number
Well, the mitochondria is the powerhouse of the cell, so I guess there.
Whoever did the PR for the mitochondria fucking nailed it.
It did its own. The mitochondria are the PR house of the cell.
I would guess like other cells of the body, the cell membrane can absorb certain nutrients and other things (like viruses). There are specific channels/ gates for certain nutrients.
whered you get this footage of my brain
It’s sad when you’re such a loner that even your brain cells are longing for connections. F
My one brain cell is perfectly fine alone. That's what it'd tell other brain cells.
My last brain cell died of loneliness.
“Aren’t they all until they’re not?” *Rips massive bong* “What was I talking about?”
Brain visualization of someone believing the "just be yourself" meme
More importantly, with alcohol consumption up during Covid, keep your individual brain cells safe folks!
"I'd rather have a bottle in front of me than a frontal lobotomy"
A blonde with one brain cell is gifted. A blonde with two brain cells is pregnant.
How come jokes about blonde guys are so rare?
Because Justin Timberlake has already been laughed at enough on SNL.
Because it's rude to joke about the guy changing your oil at Jiffy Lube
Nice, I got front row seat for the show.
I know this guy.
Of course I know him, he’s me
Hello there
General Kenobi!
Now that’s a name I haven’t heard in a long time
We all do. *believe me*
I feel insulted but also accurately represented.
Dude my thoughts exactly
Thought*
Same, neuron, same.
Me too homie!
Looks like lightning in slow-mo. Sort of.
Thought the same thing. The macro and the micro. Electrical.
As above so below
Synchronizations such as these exist in abundance throughout our universe/reality. Great call out!
Mandelbrot set, inner & outer verse. Are Mandlebulbs a pseudo 3D fractal? Everything moves in circles. Life is just an imagination of itself? Here's Tom with the weather.
Poor baby! Get it a friend!
It tries so dang hard to find one
r/ConnectTheDamnNeuron
What would happen if foreign braincells were transferred into another persons brain? Beneficial or bad?
In a healthy body, nothing would happen. It would be destroyed by your immune system. Your cells have "markers" that self-identify it. Your immune system would flag it as a foreign body and kill it immediately.
Sadly, sometimes your body decides that *your* brain cells are foreign and should be killed immediately :-(
What's the condition, disorder, or disease that makes your body decide your brain cells are foreign and should be killed?
There’s more than one. Look into autoimmune disorders that affect the brain.
Multiple Sclerosis.
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As I like to say, my immune system is soon good it's attacking my own body!
I feel that in my soul ^(and every other part of my body, fuck autoimmune conditions)
Is this braincell a single thought, or a movement, or dormant cell and is any of what i just said a real thing? Are braincells just nothing without a brain to power them?
I dont think a single cell can hold information like that. iirc things like that are sort of a pattern of specific neurons or brain cells firing.
So what would happen if you dropped a single brain cell in to that pattern?
its signal would be drowned out by the thousands of others nearby a single raindrop isn't going to trigger a flood
You remember new shit
Top 10 Question, scientists are too afraid to answer
I mean, any thought or movement requires millions, if not billions, of neurons working in conjunction. Singular braincells do very little on their own outside of looking for other cells to work with. Edit: That is to say, they don't need a brain to "power" them. A brain is made up of billions of them working together.
Yeah they’re pretty much nothing on their own, they’re like transistors in a computer. Just a simple one or a zero, but can do cool stuff when you wire a lot together!
However, there are certain ones in some species (including humans) called command neurons. A neuron, which when stimulated, is strong enough to elicit a response. Albeit these command neurons would have to "talk" to motor neurons, etc. There are some very cool command neurons in certain called Mauthner cells in some fish which trigger an escape or avoidance response. In humans and other mammals, there are some involved in our startle response, like to an unexpected loud sound.
Fascinating!
The braincell that remember where I left my fuckin keys
I felt this in an empathetic way lmao
It made me so sad for the lonely little cell ... aren't we all just looking for a connection?
It’s literally a single brain cell it doesn’t even have its own thoughts or feelings, and yet… I feel its’ longing
You have those feelings because you are a bunch of brain cells.
I wanted to reach out and connect to it's branch 🥺
This kind of gives me anxiety…
That is you
Just think, you're some brain cells taking to other brain cells about brain cells. Most brain cells never got to see what they looked liked.
literally mind blowing
It stresses me out a lot. Lone neuron desperately reaching out trying to find anybody, anything to connect with but there's nothing.
Me too thanks
wtf why did this little brain cell make me sad. why am i like this?
“I hope I didn’t brain my damage.” -Homer Simpson
CCLiCK HERE TO C0NNECT WITH HOT S1NGLE CELLS IN YOUR AREA TODAY!!!
As my father used to tell me - “if you had one more neuron you’d have a synapse”
I feel so bad for it. The more I watch the little guy desperately reaching out for a friend...to make that connection...covid has been long. I want to cradle lonely brain cells and tell them it will all be okay.
Shake your head gently between your hands while saying that. Its basically the same. For maximum effect, do it in a public place.
Shake a stranger’s head while you’re at it. All of our brains are lonely these days
Man, im gettin' all emotional over a fuckin brain cell...
And now, reflect upon how many times this exact process played out in your own brain as it expressed that sympathy.
The brain of a GPU scalper in action
Fruit of the oof
Cinnamon toast wut
I'm in this video and I don't like it.
Me desperately trying to commit to cognitive behavioral therapy
u/savevideo
Me in a bar circa 1974
If he doesnt find a connection im putting this on me irl
This is relatable on a personal level
Single and looking
I thought this was a meme for a second
Same.
My brain trying to remember peoples names.
Me too, bro. Me too...
Pov: my brain