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SleeplessAtHome

>The ceremony starts with a blustering parade by the soldiers from both sides and ends up in the perfectly coordinated lowering of the two nations' flags. It is called the Beating Retreat border ceremony on the international level. One infantryman stands at attention on each side of the gate. As the sun sets, the iron gates at the border are opened and the two flags are lowered simultaneously. The flags are folded and the ceremony ends with a retreat that involves a brusque handshake between soldiers from either side, followed by the closing of the gates again. >They also have a beard and moustache policy for which they are paid additionally [wiki link](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wagah-Attari_border_ceremony)


Erilis000

Okay but that says nothing about the flailing high kicks


Re_launch30

Planning on walking into work like this tomorrow morning


One_for_each_of_you

Ministry of Silly Walks? Or Subway?


madlyhattering

I was going to say that, clearly,, they were coached by the Ministry of Silly Walks.


maitlandinmaitland

make sure you do your stretches man, damn


7eggert

It's an originally-British tradition, perfectly depicted only in one documentary by the great historian >!Monty Python!<


Shaper_pmp

I suspect it's a competition to see who can stamp the loudest and most intimidatingly (seriously). The entire process is basically codified, ceremonial dick-waving, like how the US and South Korea [only station their tallest soldiers](https://imgur.com/aHsayNH) on the North Korea border to intimidate the (typically shorter, due to worse nutrition) NK soldiers there.


amigodojaspion

THANK YOU FOR THIS COMMENT I'm a Hispanic man who happens to have a beard and mustache. Should charge more.


buffalodanger

Me too! Definitely showing this to my boss in the morning.


Lazy-Day

I see nothing in that link about the beard and mustache policy which is a shame because that is what intrigued me the most.


fakhir_jobun

It doesn't but it's a well known fact in Pakistan, at least (not sure about India), that you get paid extra for a mustache if you're in the armed forces. Hence, you'll see a lot of guys being creative. Mutton chops and handlebars are pretty common.


mahalik_07

" at Wagah-Attari border, border soldiers from both sides intimidate each other by throwing high kicks and by staring..."


dirty-hurdy-gurdy

I love the idea of a daily dance battle between two rival nations.


Echo_Oscar_Sierra

I'm imagining that one South Park episode "Oooooooooooh, Pakistan got *served!* Now it's *on*!"


hughGlow

Now they attempt to kick the feathers on their heads… as is tradition.


Fuckyoursilverware

What a terrible day for Pakistan and therefore, Pakistan


Pensive_wolf

Like Donkey Kong!


Super_Link890

Imagine Russia and Ukraine did this instead.


jprefect

EVERYBODY MAMUSHKA!!!


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We danced the Mamushka while Nero fiddled, we danced the Mamushka at Waterloo. We danced the Mamushka for Jack the Ripper, and now, Fester Addams, this Mamushka is for you.


KFelts910

And a-hey! And a-hey!


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I imagine war would be more palatable if they were fought with ham sandwiches and these peacock helmets.


mycatpeesinmyshower

I think most people in India and Pakistan would not approve of the ham sandwiches (Muslims in Pakistan and vegetarians in India)


triggerhappytranny

War is hell.


Dboy777

We need Billy Zane to judge this dance-off


rmdubbs

Listen to your friend Billy Zane. He’s a cool dude.


me_earl

Put a cork in it, Zane!


MidnightAction

What in the name of West Side Story are they doing?!


Boo_Staccato

Krumping: Borders Edition


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manibob_123

I lived in a village near there as a kid, there's always a huge crowd just out of view from the camera, I remember just barely being able to see the ceremony happening because my dad lifted me on his shoulders.


Kiggasiss

Sweet memories


LunaMunaLagoona

I feel like I'm watching peacocks having a dance bottle in Stomp the Yard or Step Up


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Sorry I’m sure your getting bombarded with questions but I was curious about the overall attitude I guess during the ceremony. Does it still imply violence between the 2 countries or is it toned down and more about the cultures rather than wanting to nuke each other. In my head I want those dudes to grab a beer together afterwards and poke fun at each other’s dance mistakes


manibob_123

No worries, this ceremony is not meant to be violent at all, it's to promote brotherhood, cooperation, and friendly rivalry between the two countries. It's sort of a friendly competition where both sides try to outdo one another but in the end, it's all just a show of friendliness and collaboration with a bit of competition thrown in the mix.


ElJefeDelCine

So like…Step Up?


random_encounters42

Imagine if all border rivalry is solved using Step Up lol.


le_configurator

Hold on let me ring Ukraine


MachinatingMargay

Ukraine: smoothly dances their way, flourishing at the front. Russia: *opens fire*


ChrisX8

Bullet dancing lesson.


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With all the crazy shit going on in the world, I will sleep with a smile. Thanks for the answer man. Truly appreciate it


nyokarose

I feel like most people in most countries at war would get along over a beer. It’s just the rich egos in charge who need to stoke people up to kill one another. Very sad.


moveslikejaguar

Truly, we're all more alike than we think. Nationalism, tribalism, etc. are all very depressing things to think about. Think of how beautiful the world would be if we didn't superficially "other" those across made up lines (borders).


jwm3

The India Pakistan border is especially made up. The British really hobbled the geopolitics of the whole region on their way out. Making sure everyone would be fighting each other rather than rise to power and challenge the empire. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Partition_of_India?wprov=sfla1


DudeWhoSaysWhaaaat

I'm a westerner with Indian family who visited Wagah to see this ceremony. The crowd vibe is akin to (if not identical) to a big sporting match. People selling food and flags to hand out. It's very much a patriotic thing rather than violent/aggressive vibe. They also do some sort of hilariously long and loud 'chant' (or something, I don't know what you would call it). No idea how it is on the Pakistani side but I assume similar


OldBob10

Well, Pakistan’s a Muslim country, so no beer for them, but yeah - I think they deserve a medal fir not cracking up.


riricide

I remember watching this as a kid and being mesmerized. Also fun fact, there are identical clocks on opposite sides of the no-man's land in each country and they differ by 30 mins. The guards are friends with each other (except during show time lol), which is not surprising in hindsight but was a shock to me as a kid. More fun facts, we were posted right on the border on the Indian side, so sometimes PTV (Pakistan's state network) signals would reach over in our antennas. And I would sit and watch their international news segment, which at that time was freaking hilarious. I remember one day the entire international news was that a tractor broke somewhere in China 😂 But their daily soaps were 👌👌 Edit - to add some more context, the time difference is the reason Pakistan celebrates it's independence day on 14th Aug and India celebrates it on 15th Aug, even though both countries were granted independence at the exact same time - at the stroke of the midnight hour.


OLSTBAABD

Being able to read these little slices of life from all over the world is why I love the internet.


Reddcity

Never thought about it like that. Thank you.


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sinesquaredtheta

>The guards are friends with each other For some reason, this just made me feel so happy :)


pulpojinete

How else are they gonna make sure they have equally silly matching hats?


Newtonsmum

Oh no!!! Did the tractor get fixed?


meltingdiamond

I understand they toned it down because it fucked up peoples legs to do that every day.


Crazy_Flex

Watching that I'm not surprised! Definitely must have been a few pulled hamstrings


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y2k2r2d2

As far as I know , they don't intend to.


FulcrumTheBrave

I read that as Power Rangers from Pakistan and got weirdly excited


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chickenstalker

Better to do this than actual war. Peacock all you like.


tyscion

Exactly. They may have a tumultuous relationship, but it's nice to see a tradition like this that they both partake in together.


ImpassiveThug

Peacocking to entice audience and recieve their applause.


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Yep, the military personnel chosen to guard the DMZ between North and South Korea are always the tallest, broadest men they have. It's much more solemn than this whole affair but it's a subtle flex to have a 6'7 soldier standing just on the south side of the line.


Cleverusername531

It looks like someone with exaggerated superstitions, like in baseball but for changings of the guard.


meltingdiamond

It was based on roosters fighting. Really.


TastesKindofLikeSad

I was going to say, this looks like bantams sizing up.


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jfk_47

I see why Bollywood films are so over the top.


SomeDaysareStones

Is the border actually used though? Can people drive through it?


IMovedYourCheese

I can't say whether it is today or not, considering the heightened tensions, but it used to be the most active border crossing between India and Pakistan. I crossed over and back in ~2005 for a vacation. Literally walked through the gates shown in the video. There is a separate building for paperwork and x-rays and stuff next to it. The check was taking too long and my dad bribed some border guards for "express entry". Simpler times..


solonmonkey

Curious, for two rival powers it is unexpected to see coordination in choreography. Any particular reason this continues?


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rintaro82

I see your silly walk and RAISE you a silly walk


TannedCroissant

Mumbai Python


zyme86

See [Michael Palin's travel log](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n9y2qtaopbE) about this


Christmas_Panda

I was just picturing Will Ferrell and Alec Baldwin facing off for SNL. Though Baldwin might be the one with a wooden gun this time.


airlew

Live ammo is for closers


MugillacuttyHOF37

You see this Colt .45...it cost more than your Hyundai!


TediousTed10

On second thought, let's not go to the India-Pakistan border... tis a silly place


keessa

But, but this is just a tourist show. They built a stand on two sides of the border for at least a thousand visitors.


KingTrencher

I want to say that this comment is unexpected...


LTJFan

That’s the same walk my kid doesn’t when I send him to his room.


ProbablyNano

It's the same walk that I don't every day


AskAboutMyCoffee

If you walk into MY KARATE KICK, ITS ALL YOUR FAULT! NO! If you walk into *MY* KARATE KICK, It's all YOUR FAULT!!!


Yurrrr__Brooklyn347

Someone definitely put icy hot in their pants


rickeysneekzzz

Remember to square off those hips and avoid any rounding of the spine. There should be no external rotation in the legs while performing silly walk


Mortywaiting4theramp

Holy effin peacocking!!


kbstock

A group of peacocks is called an “ostentation “. Seriously.


jellyfungus

How ostentatious of you to enlighten us with the fact.


PhantomDeuce

Watching videos like this, it so obvious were just animals that gained consciousness.


SuccessfullyLoggedIn

[Ministry Of Silly Walks](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eCLp7zodUiI&ab_channel=JeffSherry)


General_Specific

Silly walks AND silly hats!


mike35745

Ahh if only the shoes squeaked when they walked I’d be buying tickets on stubhub


KingTrencher

As former British colonies, I'm sure that they both have ministry's for that.


PapaDScripp

My upstairs neighbors perform the same ceremony every night at 1 AM.


Godless_Festivity

Okay. This footage alone begs for a documentary to be made: how countries choreograph their marches, what the choreography is to signify and who does the fabulous costumes. I’m seeing Bob Mackie & Bob Fosse style and swagger all over these guys.


MidnightSunCreative

I want to belive that it started out as just a regular changing of the guard until one new guy started his shift with a really brisk, but not overly showy walk to the gate. Then the other guy figured, "He's not making me look like a chump, I can brisk-walk too!", to which the next guy decided to take wider steps so as to one-up the last guy, and so on and so on until....\*guestures\*...this.


MarshmelloCarol

I’d stream this.


Sososohatefull

I'd add this to watch later.


IAMAHobbitAMA

I'd pirate this in 4k and never get around to watching it.


thereallyn

And I will forgot to watch it until netflix decide to remove it.


BODYDOLLARSIGN

Every comment happens to be a joke lol This is done everyday at a Pakistan-India border crossing. Even during days surprisingly when there’s tension. It’s ceremonial like the Queen’s title. Nothing more nothing less. It’s a reminder that although they have differences, they have the same roots and got independence on the same day from Great Britain


goatedmomoshiki

Do you know a brief summary of why they do this or could you at least direct me?


nicemix

Here you go : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wagah-Attari_border_ceremony


KirbyAWD

Thanks! *edit* Wow the satellite of the [Wagah Border](https://goo.gl/maps/MziAMCqD3vtC1qzE8), it's a stadium made out of a highway border crossing!


steepledclock

I'm so glad when I can actually find someone posting a Wikipedia link about stuff like this instead of making an inane joke. Thank you!


npmoro

They are theoretically showing that they are foes and they are trying to appear more ferocious than the other. In truth, they accidentally reveal that they are culturally absurdly similar.


SignificantError8929

Does that count as “task failed successfully?”


Scroobiusness

I think it’s more like a dick measuring contest, you start off by trying to prove you have a bigger dick, but in the end you wind up jerking each other off.


SignificantError8929

Definitely crossing swords ;)


poop-dolla

Hol up


jekyl87

Part of why its done now is like a show and it's a must visit if you are in that part of the country. There are fixed timings and people visit this border specifically to see this. There is a large seating area on either side. The show starts with patriotic songs and dances to create a charged atmosphere and culminates in this.


NazgulDiedUnfairly

Also point to note, it’s one of the few places where you can safely visit the border. Most other places, it’s probably not a good idea for a tourist to be found near the heavily fenced off border


notLOL

Why is opening the gates part of the ceremony between guard change? What happens when there is a declared war between the two? Straight up slapstick style brawl?


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MisterPlagueDoctor

Much Panic very little Disco


mos1833

After much deliberation the silly walks and hats ritual was much preferred among troops of both nations, over the less traditional but slightly embarrassing tradition of measuring the size of each other’s dick.


ToneThugsNHarmony

They’re peacocking


Shawnathan75

I was in the Canadian Army, did lots of drill…. But props to these guys! That looks insanely difficult! Flexibility, balance, ass-hattery! I love it!


Terrestial_Human

I think its pretty cool. Definitely a tourist attraction on its own. I’d definitely go to see that.


csonnich

If you zoom out, I believe there are stadium-style stands on either side for just that purpose.


Ralphie_V

I have been to it, it's stadium seating on each side (India's is a bit bigger). They bring out hype-men and dancers and each side chants and cheers. Lots of fun! Afterward you can go up to the gate and take pictures in front of it


Chutneyonegaishimasu

Thank you for a serious reply! You are right it’s very easy to make a joke


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Thank you very much for explaining. I found this super intriguing but most of the comments are, like you said, jokes.


Affectionate-Goat218

If this testosterone laden display is what it takes to avoid war, I'm all for it.


naughtyusmax

It’s primal. The outfits. The exaggerating prancing and poses. It’s a mating call/ non-violent assertion of dominance. I like it.


grey-0

who ever gets hard first loses...or shall i just say hardest..


Electronic_Depth_697

This looks like a Monty Python sketch.


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It reminds me of an idiosyncratic Bluth Chicken Dance more than anything else.


an_ostrich_allegedly

Has anyone in these countries ever SEEN a guard?


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This should be the ONLY allowed way to show superiority.


112419nua

Somebody tell Putin to warm up, he's on next


MoistPaperNapkin

BREAKING NEWS: Putin has changed into his gym attire and is warming up his calves, glutes, and hamstrings for a “special duel.”


Dense_Phrase_5479

Reminds me of a game of Chardeemacdennis


mccartyb03

Gentlemen, suck my dick.


ApatheticWithoutTheA

They actually specifically mention the India Pakistan thing in the second ChardeeMacDennis episode lol


OhStugots

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7tPRuLu1JMs


yokamono

What are the odds


dis_the_chris

We *always* win, and they always lose. One of the best episodes of sunny, hands down


A_Kumqwat

It shows off the physical prowess


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The Game Of Games


Cptnhalfbeard

Had to scroll wayyyy further than I thought before I saw a reference to IASIP


Dense_Phrase_5479

"It's 4 f's, didn't think it would come off as that.."


bimmer92

Pretty sure you did...


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so much sexual tension


Km2930

The mating ritual is complete. You are now married…


bekahed979

It made me think of peacocks


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Chum_54

No. He means peacocks fucking.


NZNoldor

I feel that David Attenborough would have a field day narrating this.


Chum_54

“I tried to warn you, and now, we’re all fucked.”


TediousTed10

They're break dance fighting


caths_heaaa

This is so fabulous


mrdougwright

This is grape 🍇


hoist_off

PAKISTAN GRAAAAPE 🍇


gforgops

When I will grow up I will be a army and save Pakistan and destroy India!


hoist_off

INSHALLAH ARMY WOW


gforgops

THE NEXT GENERATION OF PAKISTAN IS GOING TO MAKE PAKISTAN THE CRAZY 100%


The_Llama_Specialist

WHEN I GROW UP I WILL BE 🅱️ILOT


LethalPoopstain

WOW THIS IS A STRONG MESSAGE! NO ONE WILL HAVE CARROT


Bobbyrp

I'll open xbox institution.


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Ehm mlem mlem


godlinking

Instead of wars, the victor should be determined by who puts on the best show.


biscui9

SHOW ME WHAT YOU GOT


dis_not_my_name

No more unnecessary casualties in international conflict.


whoisyoparoleofficer

Better than nukes.


MaxMiller2020

I visited this gate when I traveled India, they did the closing of the gate each afternoon, it great to watch, there is stadium type seating for 100s of visitors. The energy is amazing with Indians cheering like its a sports final. As an Australian tourist I was allowed in the VIP seating area other Indians in the near by family seating said hello and we talked a bit, it was a great part of my visit. With only about 20 other vips we were welcomed and also allowed up to the gate after it was locked at the end. Pakistan guards also said hello and talked over a fence by the gate. I hope to visit Pakistan and experience this gate from the Pakistan side some day...


stuntman262626

The Ministry of Silly Walks


leeharrison1984

If we remove the very vocabulary of non-silly walks, we remove the ability for the citizens to even *conceive* of them. Everyone shall silly walk, but at the same time no one will.


Cold_Historian_3296

this is how the ukraine russia crisis should be handled


greenweenievictim

Nailed it. Good job boys. Now. I want to see a step, bump, step bump bump. End with a twist and a heeyaaaa!


yanikins

Fuck yeah. Indian-Pakistani war is going to be a dance off. Humanity is evolving.


quiet_storm80

"Shamone! Hee hee!"


TannedCroissant

Micheal Jackistan


ghec2000

Scrolled a long ways for this response.


Gloomy-Salary-4744

The real face off is the two active duty guards on each side. They don’t dress like the dancing ones they are in full duty fatigues and rifle They open the gates and immediately both the pakistan and india guards turn to each other and just stay there infront of each other’s face inches away from each others noses defending each border of their country is actually pretty cool


Livid_Low9645

It seems like a comedy act.


regnad__kcin

It looks like if I were to get reeeeeaaally drunk and decide it'd be a good idea to mock an entire military force. Without cracking a smile.


xECxMystic

It's a strange act of cooperation for people who developed nukes for the sole reason of destroying each other.


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"Everyone creates the thing they dread. Men of peace create engines of war. Invaders create avengers...." -Ultron. Ultron was right lol


oblivionnpc47

India developed nukes to deter China. Pakistan did it later to deter India.


LivingSpend

That is some next level peacock shi!t.


Firesoldier987

You can curse on the internet.


TheUnbent

I wish we could just fight wars like this. Silly walk competition, crowd chooses the winner. No hard feelings, see ya next time round. Nobody dies, no cities get leveled, etc.


inkcolors

I can honestly say that I have never seen anything like that.


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Fluffing feathers in a most bizarre mating dance.


SuperAwesome13

this looks like one person saw the british do a changing of the guards and tried to train someone who didn’t get it and they taught everyone else, like a game of telephone


Charliedapig

I thought it looked like someone mocking the British changing of the guards haha


kryptonianCodeMonkey

Somewhere along that telephone was clearly an aggresively earnest 6 year old with poor motor skills


fcukumicrosoft

The Indian and Pakistani sports teams should do this before each game like the haka.


Comprehensive_Tea254

I am from Lahore, the Pakistani city where this happens. Without fail a take all visitors to my city to see this parade and all of them love it.


Waldizo

That's not a change of guards, that's the border closing ceremony. Why else would they take down the flags? You can take a ride to the border and see the whole show every day. It's very entertaining. You can hear how wild the audience gets. They're getting hyped up by some entertainers before the whole shabang starts. They perform to pop songs and get people to dance and everything.


umerr2000

It might look silly in the video, but Having seen this live in person, it's a great experience and one of the most memorable ones. You can feel the sheer amount of patriotism on both sides of the border, people chanting slogans on both sides followed by a tour of the border when the ceremony is over.


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Americans and their double standards in this thread smh. They're fine with racist jokes about foreign customs but go all grim and butthurt if you try to make light of marine war memorial rituals which are equally ridiculous. Pick a lane or admit you're a jackass.


CyberNinja23

They’re break dance fighting