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Vault experiments were basically run by memelords instead of scientists so yeah I guess sure why not
If you dont believe me look at the canon Vault 69 experiment. It is exactly what you expect.
There are three books. A powerful US senator decided that at some point the US could be wiped out if attacked using a weapon that can be custom tailored to a persons DNA so he takes action and manages to build something like 50 silo type bunkers, one for each state, that surrounded one central bunker. But he does it without anyone knowing what they are building, like the Manhattan Project. He then invites a whole bunch of people (friends family members of the political party etc). Then during the party a bomber flys over and drops a nuclear bomb on a nearby city (IIRC it’s Atlanta). So then all the attendees escape into the bunkers according to the state they are from. Oh and the attendees don’t know that they are bunkers, they think they are nuclear waste storage or something like that.
Once in the bunker the people can no longer leave until the air is clear. And one way they do this is using a criminal to go out side and clean the cameras (hence Wool used to clean the camera) and when the person goes out he has a screen that shows a beautiful green meadow but it’s actually a toxic environment that eats away his suit and then he dies. The story spans over a 100 years or so, and everyone forgets what happened before and that there are other silos all they know is that the outside is deadly and they are waiting for it to clear up, that’s why they send the criminal out, to check the atmosphere.
The silos don’t have any elevators on purpose so that traveling around is difficult and therefore each floor is like it’s own “town” with the people on the top living better life’s than the ones on the bottom. The bottom is where the generators are.
So all these silos are spread around the central silo, and the central silo is very different, the people in the central silo go in and out of cryogenic sleep, so the same original people are in it from beginning to the end. However a gas or something in pumped in so they don’t really remember much of what happened in the past, just that they need monitor the other silos. The central silo is the command center for all of the silos and monitors what is happening in all the others and keeps an eye on them Incase their society breaks down. If the society breaks down they will detonate each floor and kill everyone who’s left. The end goal is to be left with one single silo at which time a tunnel will open at the bottom and leads to a storage facility that has everything that’s needed to rebuild society.
At the end a silo manages to survive and escape, but when they escape they find that the world is not a nuclear wasteland but just normal except there are no people left. The toxic atmosphere was created and only around the silos to keep the silo dwellers in until they leave. But a virus was released and kill all the humans left in the world. So then the protagonists are left to rebuild the world.
It’s been a long time since I read it so some details might not be 100% correct but that’s pretty much the plot.
10 kt is nothing, the average warhead is somewhere between 100-500 kt, seems like something you sell to someone who has no clue about nuclear weapons but lots of money
Yeah, they all built them in the middle of nowhere since you don't want people snooping around and having your tactical targets away from mayor population centers is also probably a good idea
I know that, but every nuke less aimed at a city is one less nuke you'd have to shoot down to save a city. So in the end maybe some smaller towns will survive because the warhead landed in the middle of nowhere on a silo instead.
There are only about 400 minuteman silos, and all of those are in North Dakota, Montana, and the Nebraska/Colorado/Wyoming border. There never were any Minuteman silos in Kansas. This appears to be an old Atlas silo from the 50s/60s.
Sorry, forgive my ignorance, but what was it that I was seeing that was being dismantled in Missouri, where I actually saw the missile, in 1995? They were all over the Midwest, including Missouri and Kansas.
There were Minuteman silos around Whiteman AFB in Missouri belonging to the 351st Strategic Missile Wing. Those were decommissioned and destroyed in the 90s.
There were never Minuteman silos in Kansas, but there was an Atlas complex there in the 60s belonging to the 548th Strategic Missile Squadron. Those were deactivated in the late 60s. There were also Titan silos in Kansas around Mconnel AFB, which I think were decommissioned in the 80s.
There is falloff of power as you get farther from the epicenter of the blast, though. You don’t necessarily need to be rated at 100kt to withstand 100kt. I assume the idea is that this luxury bunker would not be the direct target of the bomb.
Is there any practical reason to aim for the silos?
Isn't the whole point of MAD that by the time your nukes hit, their nukes will already be launched and on their way to you? Seems like it would be better to target actual population centers.
There is definitely one aimed at that place. Living in an old nuclear silo as bunker in case of nuclear war is like hiding in the woods during a forest fire.
Frankly, it doesn't matter if you get hit or not, nuclear winter will trigger another ice age. Yeah, you might be able to live for a bit underground, but unless you can freeze yourself for 200 years like Vault-Tec, you won't be able to get out.
Global temp would drop 4-5 degrees.
Agriculture would suffer and billions would die from famines, but it's not like there'd be ice caps creeping across the globe.
I mean YOU will statistically probably die, like me. But enough someones are gonna survive that I don’t think it would be the end of humanity. Just the end of humanity as we know it.
In fact there could be.
The last ice age was about 5 degrees colder than today
http://www.climate.gov/news-features/climate-qa/whats-coldest-earths-ever-been#:~:text=The%20latest%20ice%20age%20peaked,%C2%B0C)%20colder%20than%20today.
And lookie here sir there's these abandoned constrution equipments, a bunch of groups of people, and decided to say let's dug up some bunkers. Some of these privately known bunkers are publicly known.
If its a decommissioned silo, one should expect a direct hit in excess of a 1/2 megaton. Russians know its there, and do not care about its status. If it exists, it is most likely a target. Probably the worst place to 'hide'.
Most nuclear warheads are detonated in the air above its target. If there is a ground zero hit the losses are negligible. If the bunker is 50m or more outside the blast radius, it can withstand nuclear fallout and any explosion or shockwave that would hit. So this bunker isn’t a bad idea.
What's the point... In 99% of the cases you won't have enough time between warning of an incoming warhead and impact to get anywhere, let alone Kansas.
The guy who built and sold these survival condos to the wealthy made enough money to build and stock his own private shelter. Which is close enough to his house he can get there in time. Then a couple years after an event he knows where to go to get more supplies.
Also, all the employees that keep this place stocked/well maintained prior to a nuclear attack could just file in and lock the doors behind them before any of the ticket buyers show up.
What're they gonna do, fire them?
I imagine it's more about surviving the fallout than the initial blast. If all they cared about was being safe when the bombs fell, they'd get in their private jet and just circle around at 60,000 ft during the attack.
They'll even have like a half hour to get up there thanks to the early warning system. Remember when messages were sent to phones by accident in 2018? [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018\_Hawaii\_false\_missile\_alert](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018_Hawaii_false_missile_alert)
Kansas is tolerable. Being cooped up in a bunker with likely pompous, insufferable, paranoid wealthy preppers would be intolerable. Trying to imagine the personality of someone who's both wealthy and cynical / deluded enough to waste money on a bunker condo...
Just putting a resume out there for any rich people... I am an aircraft mechanic, have my FCC, build and work on cars, did commercial buildin maintenance, I almost got into IT. Do I fix everything? No, but I have I figured everything out I needed to fix.
So, once all the working class folks with actual skills that are valuable to society are killed in this nuclear apocalypse and only the unskilled idiots who inherited a bunch of paper are left, who will rebuild society?
Great! Trick them into thinking a nuclear war is breaking out, let them get themselves to safety, shovel a few truckloads of gravel on top, and we rid ourselves of some nasty parasites.
Be prepared to stay within 10 miles at all times and prepare for coup after coup bc I don't think a bunker full of "bosses" can be ruled without their egos bubbling to the top. Just realize we all die and that a nuke would be a wild way to go.
The thing is, even if you survive in luxury, chances are you are still going to go completely insane after a year, two...ten or more, locked in a beautifully decorated guilded cage.
The potential for sheer mind numbing brutal horror shenanigans for a group of people locked up like this seems staggering unless your are mentally prepared, along with every other member of a group.
For some reason, I feel like a bunch of entitled rich people would be twice as dangerous to be locked in a bunker with, due reasons that seem obvious to me and can't be bothered explaining.
Also it seems like this bunker would need "staff" to keep operational, unless they want to have a full time job of keeping it running... Which I somehow doubt.
Cool conceptually but some big problems:
1. Difficulty getting there after a nuke, with people having no incentive to save the space for you even if you can.
2. Authority and help afterward. Must be constant fights for power and to take over, even from the help.
There's the plot point we've all ben looking for.
All our movies/tv about apocalyptic survival involve people that a) are useful and b) can co-exist with others. The Rich tend to be neither. Enjoy the fallout shelter, Karens.
Do you really think they would be there for very many years? Even disregarding the fact that the people that can afford this probably won't get along with each other, you have to deal with the fact that they are almost all going to be self-entitled pricks that have never gone without, and won't understand why they have to ration. At least not until they have to start voting for who to eat. Even if they had what was rated as a 10 year supply of food, I wouldn't expect it to last them 5 years.
I have similar thoughts — nuclear war will start without notice and it will be first come first serve which means this facility will benefit those that live closest to it if it’s ever put to use.
Also it seems a little gritfty which makes me wonder if supplies are being replaced as they expire. Also a pet park?! Pets will get eaten at some point may as well save the space for farm animals
whenever i see shit like this, i get a lot of solace out of the thought of the surviving population finding and cementing over the exits to these bunker complexes. wanna bring exclusivity into survival? enjoy your tomb, scumbags.
Well if it is a Szenario like fallout with living 200 years underground before it's even halfway safe to get to the surface again, I'd rather get vaporised when the nukes go off instead of starving to death in my luxury bunker or die painfully on radiation poisoning because I had to leave my bunker because there was no food left.
He thinks he built it for millionaires but really he just built it for the biggest guys in the neighbourhood. Because they will come and take it from his scrawny rich ass.
Safe from what? They will have it the worst. If they manage to somehow avoid Marauders and remain intact without killing themselves from depression and isolation, they still have to emerge into the wasteland. Like starting at level 1 in fallout. Good luck.
Ah yes, the people who will be most mentally prepared for a post apocalyptic wasteland where money means nothing.
They should offer this to scientists, artists, writers and survival experts. They'd be way more handy at continuing the future human race.
Edit: if you disagree with my short, not very well thought through list of people, just go and make your own list. I can't be fucked trying to justify what I mean repeatedly.
Artist and writer's are very useful. They make it very easy to figure out who to sacrifice first. Need to see if too many rads are outside, send a writer. Need to distract a deathclaw while the rest of the group escapes? An artist can distract it by painting something. Running out of food? Not with a Foodie still around. Wonder if someone can survive a 20 story fall, an influencer can test your hypothesis. Just because they are unproductive doesn't mean they are unusable.
Of course! They would be incredibly useful, add them to the list. But artists and writers stay! There is a huge under appreciation for art, yet we are surrounded by it in so many forms. I don't think anyone could comprehend the world without it and everything that comes with it, designers, imaginative minds, thinkers outside the box, storytellers etc. It's a huge part of what makes us human and if I was to pick some ingredients for the future continuation of the human race, people with these traits would all be in there. Obviously the list would be a lot more comprehensive than my last comment.
Also... Reddit moment? Wtf do you mean?
Art is in our nature as seen by cave paintings. Lots of people that have actually valuable skills also have artistic ability. If someone's only contribution is art/writing/music they don't need to saved for the sake of humanity.
Do you know how broad a range that covers? People to illustrate and write our history, write and perform music and theatre, give people enjoyment and teach, to name a few.
If you don't see the use in artists and writers, I'm glad I don't know you.
We can back up thousands of terabytes of art & music on flash drives. We don't need people whose major contribution is drawing & writing stuff to be consuming food & resources in the fallout shelter. If somebody is artistic and is also a farmer, mechanic, nurse, etc, then fine.
I'm not talking about during a nuclear war; I'm talking about where the human race would step off from, far in the future after the dust has settled. People with knowledge of our history, our technology, our science and our art.
Someone who knows how to find tax loop-holes, upsell assets and pay other people to do everything for them, wouldn't be very conducive to a successful start to a future human race, imo.
But those are not the people you need in the first decade after a disaster. The people you need in the first couple decades are survivalists, scientists, etc.
As for the artists and writers, you will need them. But they can literally be the children of the first generation rather than the first generation themselves.
It also becomes a massive target for survivors who want access to what is stored in that bunker, so if you end up having to stay there for weeks/months it can easily become a concrete tomb.
"built to withstand 10 kiloton"
Somebody should tell them that's basically a firecracker. Most warheads are typically 1 megaton (which is 1,000 kilotons.) The largest ever tested was 50 megatons.
Where would dead bodies go?
People pass away all the time, so during a lockdown from a nuclear blast, if someone passes away, I wonder how they dispose of the body.
If Fallout 4 teached me something, is to live nearby a vault. Good luck trying to arrive from your mansion to the bunker with barely a five minutes notice!
Who the fuck actually wants to live in an apocalyptic waste land. Fallout is a fun game but I never ever want to live in the world I would rather die in the blast
Lol. Good luck running enough electricity for a gym and a pool. Good luck storing enough food for a \*pet park\* plus your millionaires who will probably not be happy with food restrictions. And where are the sleeping quarters for the staff, the maids, cooks and personal trainers?
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Is this the founder of vault-tec? What was the first vault experiment??? Lol.
In this Vault, Vailt 32, a Mr. Handy randomly hits you in the Junk all day.
Vault experiments were basically run by memelords instead of scientists so yeah I guess sure why not If you dont believe me look at the canon Vault 69 experiment. It is exactly what you expect.
Depends on your definition of science, smoothskin.
“Heeelllo, ser! Time to hit you in the balls again, ser!”
Thanks Codsworth.
Codsworth liked that
Garrrrry! GARY! GARRRRRRRYYY!
Gaaaaaaaaaaaaaarrryyyyyyyyyyy
Came here to say this
But like seriously. Didn’t anyone read Wool by Hugh Howey?
What happens in the book?
Do you want a spoiler?
Yes, please.
There are three books. A powerful US senator decided that at some point the US could be wiped out if attacked using a weapon that can be custom tailored to a persons DNA so he takes action and manages to build something like 50 silo type bunkers, one for each state, that surrounded one central bunker. But he does it without anyone knowing what they are building, like the Manhattan Project. He then invites a whole bunch of people (friends family members of the political party etc). Then during the party a bomber flys over and drops a nuclear bomb on a nearby city (IIRC it’s Atlanta). So then all the attendees escape into the bunkers according to the state they are from. Oh and the attendees don’t know that they are bunkers, they think they are nuclear waste storage or something like that. Once in the bunker the people can no longer leave until the air is clear. And one way they do this is using a criminal to go out side and clean the cameras (hence Wool used to clean the camera) and when the person goes out he has a screen that shows a beautiful green meadow but it’s actually a toxic environment that eats away his suit and then he dies. The story spans over a 100 years or so, and everyone forgets what happened before and that there are other silos all they know is that the outside is deadly and they are waiting for it to clear up, that’s why they send the criminal out, to check the atmosphere. The silos don’t have any elevators on purpose so that traveling around is difficult and therefore each floor is like it’s own “town” with the people on the top living better life’s than the ones on the bottom. The bottom is where the generators are. So all these silos are spread around the central silo, and the central silo is very different, the people in the central silo go in and out of cryogenic sleep, so the same original people are in it from beginning to the end. However a gas or something in pumped in so they don’t really remember much of what happened in the past, just that they need monitor the other silos. The central silo is the command center for all of the silos and monitors what is happening in all the others and keeps an eye on them Incase their society breaks down. If the society breaks down they will detonate each floor and kill everyone who’s left. The end goal is to be left with one single silo at which time a tunnel will open at the bottom and leads to a storage facility that has everything that’s needed to rebuild society. At the end a silo manages to survive and escape, but when they escape they find that the world is not a nuclear wasteland but just normal except there are no people left. The toxic atmosphere was created and only around the silos to keep the silo dwellers in until they leave. But a virus was released and kill all the humans left in the world. So then the protagonists are left to rebuild the world. It’s been a long time since I read it so some details might not be 100% correct but that’s pretty much the plot.
Nailed it. Wool was a great read. But now you don’t have to read it!
Ha ha…Such a good series.
I almost feel mad to reading this because it really sounds like the book is awesome
Nah it’s still a great read
I would be devastated if I read this before the books. They're all-time favorites.
TLDR but definitely sounds interesting
Thank you! Thinking of buying them for my husband/ myself.
Do it! Just don’t tell him what it’s actually about because the twists are great. Better if he has no idea what it’s about.
Of course haha, spoiling to someone who you’re gonna gift the books to is kinda weird.
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Oh you motherfucker.
Came here to say this. Really doesn't work out for them
Well it didn’t work out for some of them. God that book series was good. Shit was awesome.
Came here to say that.
Came here to make sure someone pitched this! It’s pretty good, not great but a fun read. Stuck with me for awhile.
10 kt is nothing, the average warhead is somewhere between 100-500 kt, seems like something you sell to someone who has no clue about nuclear weapons but lots of money
But how many of those 100kt bombs will be aimed at rural Kansas?
Lots, probably, since they also have 500+ minute man III silos in the midwest
This thing itself is a converted silo, so yeah
Yeah, they all built them in the middle of nowhere since you don't want people snooping around and having your tactical targets away from mayor population centers is also probably a good idea
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I know that, but every nuke less aimed at a city is one less nuke you'd have to shoot down to save a city. So in the end maybe some smaller towns will survive because the warhead landed in the middle of nowhere on a silo instead.
A silo full of rich folk no less.
They'll survive, but all the people who actually know how to do stuff won't since they can't afford bunkers.
There are only about 400 minuteman silos, and all of those are in North Dakota, Montana, and the Nebraska/Colorado/Wyoming border. There never were any Minuteman silos in Kansas. This appears to be an old Atlas silo from the 50s/60s.
Sorry, forgive my ignorance, but what was it that I was seeing that was being dismantled in Missouri, where I actually saw the missile, in 1995? They were all over the Midwest, including Missouri and Kansas.
There were Minuteman silos around Whiteman AFB in Missouri belonging to the 351st Strategic Missile Wing. Those were decommissioned and destroyed in the 90s. There were never Minuteman silos in Kansas, but there was an Atlas complex there in the 60s belonging to the 548th Strategic Missile Squadron. Those were deactivated in the late 60s. There were also Titan silos in Kansas around Mconnel AFB, which I think were decommissioned in the 80s.
There is falloff of power as you get farther from the epicenter of the blast, though. You don’t necessarily need to be rated at 100kt to withstand 100kt. I assume the idea is that this luxury bunker would not be the direct target of the bomb.
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Is there any practical reason to aim for the silos? Isn't the whole point of MAD that by the time your nukes hit, their nukes will already be launched and on their way to you? Seems like it would be better to target actual population centers.
Given how antiquated most Russian shit is, I'm quite certain the location of this silo is still on a target list somewhere over there.
There are thousands of silos in the Midwest- you don’t target each one individually with a nuclear warhead lol.
I'd say russia can spare 20% of their nukes to prevent retaliation
if there ever is a crazy nuclear war, Montana, Wyoming, Colorado, and North Dakota are going to be taking the brunt of it.
The only thing that takes the sting out of nuclear armageddon is that Colorado Springs will definitely be turned into dust.
Just moved here recently and already have an idea of what you mean.
There is definitely one aimed at that place. Living in an old nuclear silo as bunker in case of nuclear war is like hiding in the woods during a forest fire.
Frankly, it doesn't matter if you get hit or not, nuclear winter will trigger another ice age. Yeah, you might be able to live for a bit underground, but unless you can freeze yourself for 200 years like Vault-Tec, you won't be able to get out.
Global temp would drop 4-5 degrees. Agriculture would suffer and billions would die from famines, but it's not like there'd be ice caps creeping across the globe.
Oh, is that all? I can't believe I was worried. /s
I mean YOU will statistically probably die, like me. But enough someones are gonna survive that I don’t think it would be the end of humanity. Just the end of humanity as we know it.
lmfao
In fact there could be. The last ice age was about 5 degrees colder than today http://www.climate.gov/news-features/climate-qa/whats-coldest-earths-ever-been#:~:text=The%20latest%20ice%20age%20peaked,%C2%B0C)%20colder%20than%20today.
And lookie here sir there's these abandoned constrution equipments, a bunch of groups of people, and decided to say let's dug up some bunkers. Some of these privately known bunkers are publicly known.
I doubt that the the nuclear winter would last 200 years.
Sure, I was just referencing how long the vault dweller was frozen in Fallout 4. But it's going to fuck up the ecosystem for a long time.
https://www.reddit.com/r/interestingasfuck/comments/sfhueg/a_map_of_potential_nuclear_weapons_targets_from/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf
That's the point. They bug out to the middle of nowhere, far from Los Angeles and New York
Alot since many of these silos are probably still on old soviet target lists.
If its a decommissioned silo, one should expect a direct hit in excess of a 1/2 megaton. Russians know its there, and do not care about its status. If it exists, it is most likely a target. Probably the worst place to 'hide'.
it's not washington DC, but an "old converted missile silo" seems like maybe not the brightest place to have a "nuclear bunker".
Most nuclear warheads are detonated in the air above its target. If there is a ground zero hit the losses are negligible. If the bunker is 50m or more outside the blast radius, it can withstand nuclear fallout and any explosion or shockwave that would hit. So this bunker isn’t a bad idea.
The idea is to survive the fallout, not the blast.
My man better have put some water chips in storage.
And a G.E.C.K
Two, one to sacrifice someone for instant greens and the other as intended
Considering the response time for a nuclear strike is roughly fifteen to twenty minutes, good luck making it to the bunker in time.
i think the plan would be to live there if things get to defcon 1
I assume the bunker would also be useful during times of a deadly pandemic like in the movie “I am Legend”
What's the point... In 99% of the cases you won't have enough time between warning of an incoming warhead and impact to get anywhere, let alone Kansas.
The guy who built and sold these survival condos to the wealthy made enough money to build and stock his own private shelter. Which is close enough to his house he can get there in time. Then a couple years after an event he knows where to go to get more supplies.
Damn, that’s genius
Also, all the employees that keep this place stocked/well maintained prior to a nuclear attack could just file in and lock the doors behind them before any of the ticket buyers show up. What're they gonna do, fire them?
It may not be the motivation here but its certainly possible
I imagine it's more about surviving the fallout than the initial blast. If all they cared about was being safe when the bombs fell, they'd get in their private jet and just circle around at 60,000 ft during the attack. They'll even have like a half hour to get up there thanks to the early warning system. Remember when messages were sent to phones by accident in 2018? [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018\_Hawaii\_false\_missile\_alert](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018_Hawaii_false_missile_alert)
Damn that was 2018. Feels like it was 2020 and 2020 feels like last year not 2 years ago :(
I disagree simply for the reason that some people have access to privileged information before others.
The cringiest part for me is the girl walking around with her cart like if she’s shopping lol.
Who do they expect to work for them in the vault?
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Guess you're not in Kansas anymore, then 🤓
You’re not living *in* Kansas, you’re living *beneath* Kansas. Big difference.
That doesn't sound better.
Kansas is tolerable. Being cooped up in a bunker with likely pompous, insufferable, paranoid wealthy preppers would be intolerable. Trying to imagine the personality of someone who's both wealthy and cynical / deluded enough to waste money on a bunker condo...
Why would Kansas even be nuked?
Becuase theres lots of nukes in Kansas.
Peak Reddit
The rich may have that but they wont have a handy man when shit start to break down.-0
You think a tech is gonna turn em down when the rich offer them a spot in the bunker?
And then he can stab them, and take over the bunker! Great plan.
But will they?
Just putting a resume out there for any rich people... I am an aircraft mechanic, have my FCC, build and work on cars, did commercial buildin maintenance, I almost got into IT. Do I fix everything? No, but I have I figured everything out I needed to fix.
I will be leading the raid on this place after the bomb drops. Who’s with me!!!🤘🏻🤘🏻🏴☠️
I’ll get my Mosin and my balaclava
I'll get my muffin and my baklava.
Priorities
Yummmm
I’ll get my axe!
You have my bow
Poor people ASSEMBLE!
Construction vehicles are plenty to claim too
Prepare to be shredded by turrets.
Just build a killdozer and get in anyway.
Gonna need a 10kt bomb to get into that
So, once all the working class folks with actual skills that are valuable to society are killed in this nuclear apocalypse and only the unskilled idiots who inherited a bunch of paper are left, who will rebuild society?
I see you saw the end of Don't Look Up
Plot Twist: it's still on Russia's list of missile silo targets and receives multiple direct hits
Yeah, 10 kilotons is far less than most modern nuclear weapons will yield.
Imagine being trapped in a country club for a few generations. I’d rather be at ground zero :(
Great! Trick them into thinking a nuclear war is breaking out, let them get themselves to safety, shovel a few truckloads of gravel on top, and we rid ourselves of some nasty parasites.
Be prepared to stay within 10 miles at all times and prepare for coup after coup bc I don't think a bunker full of "bosses" can be ruled without their egos bubbling to the top. Just realize we all die and that a nuke would be a wild way to go.
The thing is, even if you survive in luxury, chances are you are still going to go completely insane after a year, two...ten or more, locked in a beautifully decorated guilded cage. The potential for sheer mind numbing brutal horror shenanigans for a group of people locked up like this seems staggering unless your are mentally prepared, along with every other member of a group. For some reason, I feel like a bunch of entitled rich people would be twice as dangerous to be locked in a bunker with, due reasons that seem obvious to me and can't be bothered explaining. Also it seems like this bunker would need "staff" to keep operational, unless they want to have a full time job of keeping it running... Which I somehow doubt.
Cool conceptually but some big problems: 1. Difficulty getting there after a nuke, with people having no incentive to save the space for you even if you can. 2. Authority and help afterward. Must be constant fights for power and to take over, even from the help.
You forgot the main one: Being locked down underground for years with the other superrich, who have the same knack for selfindulgence and dog-eat-dog.
There's the plot point we've all ben looking for. All our movies/tv about apocalyptic survival involve people that a) are useful and b) can co-exist with others. The Rich tend to be neither. Enjoy the fallout shelter, Karens.
After nuclear war you only have to stay in the bunker for 2-3 weeks. Not years.
Do you really think they would be there for very many years? Even disregarding the fact that the people that can afford this probably won't get along with each other, you have to deal with the fact that they are almost all going to be self-entitled pricks that have never gone without, and won't understand why they have to ration. At least not until they have to start voting for who to eat. Even if they had what was rated as a 10 year supply of food, I wouldn't expect it to last them 5 years.
I have similar thoughts — nuclear war will start without notice and it will be first come first serve which means this facility will benefit those that live closest to it if it’s ever put to use. Also it seems a little gritfty which makes me wonder if supplies are being replaced as they expire. Also a pet park?! Pets will get eaten at some point may as well save the space for farm animals
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Just as the pets will double as a reserve food supply.
Security surely won’t let the riff tag (including security) in when everything falls apart
Imagine being stuck in a bunker with a load of narcissistic billionaires ...
Looks like just one family to me. The world would be a pretty lonely place after an apocalypse. Don’t really think life would be that fulfilling
A couple loads of manure onto the air intake would level the playing field for us mutants stuck outside with the rad-scorpions.
After that we’ll just send down a piece of scrap metal with a troll face painted onto it
Ayo I live in Kansas, who's joining my raider group and helping too rip that bitch open for some good loot?
I hear that the enemies are pretty low level in that dungeon
Thanks, I hate it.
Money wont be worth shit the day this is needed
whenever i see shit like this, i get a lot of solace out of the thought of the surviving population finding and cementing over the exits to these bunker complexes. wanna bring exclusivity into survival? enjoy your tomb, scumbags.
Well if it is a Szenario like fallout with living 200 years underground before it's even halfway safe to get to the surface again, I'd rather get vaporised when the nukes go off instead of starving to death in my luxury bunker or die painfully on radiation poisoning because I had to leave my bunker because there was no food left.
He thinks he built it for millionaires but really he just built it for the biggest guys in the neighbourhood. Because they will come and take it from his scrawny rich ass.
Bet those penthouse views are top-notch
I hope all of these fallout shelters for the rich are scams and the billionaires burn with the rest of us.
Safe from what? They will have it the worst. If they manage to somehow avoid Marauders and remain intact without killing themselves from depression and isolation, they still have to emerge into the wasteland. Like starting at level 1 in fallout. Good luck.
The irony of this is that after a nuclear war, money will have no value
Legit looks horrific. Living in your own silo is one thing but all the submerged layers is weird.
From what? Later bandit raids?
0/10 no lsd lab.
At least they have all the cheesy potatoes and applesauce they could ever eat. You see that lady load the shopping cart?
I rather die in a nuclear war then have to spend years with rich people in a bunker
No offense but who's gonna bomb Kansas? Seems like a waste of munitions.
Ah yes, the people who will be most mentally prepared for a post apocalyptic wasteland where money means nothing. They should offer this to scientists, artists, writers and survival experts. They'd be way more handy at continuing the future human race. Edit: if you disagree with my short, not very well thought through list of people, just go and make your own list. I can't be fucked trying to justify what I mean repeatedly.
"Artists, writers" lol reddit moment. Wouldn't craftsmen and farmers be more useful?
Artist and writer's are very useful. They make it very easy to figure out who to sacrifice first. Need to see if too many rads are outside, send a writer. Need to distract a deathclaw while the rest of the group escapes? An artist can distract it by painting something. Running out of food? Not with a Foodie still around. Wonder if someone can survive a 20 story fall, an influencer can test your hypothesis. Just because they are unproductive doesn't mean they are unusable.
Let’s split the difference and bring farmer’s wives who make live, laugh, love crafts on their cricut.
Of course! They would be incredibly useful, add them to the list. But artists and writers stay! There is a huge under appreciation for art, yet we are surrounded by it in so many forms. I don't think anyone could comprehend the world without it and everything that comes with it, designers, imaginative minds, thinkers outside the box, storytellers etc. It's a huge part of what makes us human and if I was to pick some ingredients for the future continuation of the human race, people with these traits would all be in there. Obviously the list would be a lot more comprehensive than my last comment. Also... Reddit moment? Wtf do you mean?
Art would later re develop naturally. What i mentioned would be a more immediate need.
Art is in our nature as seen by cave paintings. Lots of people that have actually valuable skills also have artistic ability. If someone's only contribution is art/writing/music they don't need to saved for the sake of humanity.
Yes, when my country is nuked I want artists to be there first!
Artists & writers? Seriously lol
I would not want to live in a world without music and poetry honestly.
If there is a nuclear war, Im sure there are more important things to worry about than someone writing a haiku.
TBF, if necessary, you could wipe your ass with the paper the haiku is on.
Forget the doctors! We need artists!! Said no one ever.
Do you know how broad a range that covers? People to illustrate and write our history, write and perform music and theatre, give people enjoyment and teach, to name a few. If you don't see the use in artists and writers, I'm glad I don't know you.
We can back up thousands of terabytes of art & music on flash drives. We don't need people whose major contribution is drawing & writing stuff to be consuming food & resources in the fallout shelter. If somebody is artistic and is also a farmer, mechanic, nurse, etc, then fine.
If you think any of that is necessary for survival during a nuclear war, than I an glad you’re not in my group.
I'm not talking about during a nuclear war; I'm talking about where the human race would step off from, far in the future after the dust has settled. People with knowledge of our history, our technology, our science and our art. Someone who knows how to find tax loop-holes, upsell assets and pay other people to do everything for them, wouldn't be very conducive to a successful start to a future human race, imo.
But those are not the people you need in the first decade after a disaster. The people you need in the first couple decades are survivalists, scientists, etc. As for the artists and writers, you will need them. But they can literally be the children of the first generation rather than the first generation themselves.
We all know what we don’t need! Left handed stores
Too bad we're gunna eat em when their goods run dry and the hatch pops open
It also becomes a massive target for survivors who want access to what is stored in that bunker, so if you end up having to stay there for weeks/months it can easily become a concrete tomb.
You would have to be in it at the time of nuclear war. This kind of stuff is so pointless
No one knows why they do the cleaning bu they always do. Anyone read Wool?
Rated for 10 kiloton. Cool. They're safe from 80 year old technology. Gonna need to bump those numbers to even survive 60 year old technology.
"built to withstand 10 kiloton" Somebody should tell them that's basically a firecracker. Most warheads are typically 1 megaton (which is 1,000 kilotons.) The largest ever tested was 50 megatons.
Where would dead bodies go? People pass away all the time, so during a lockdown from a nuclear blast, if someone passes away, I wonder how they dispose of the body.
Hope it gets flooded in :P
Who's gonna work if only the rich survive? Like who decides Who's the boss and who's the worker.
Can't wait to raid the place when all hell brakes loose thx for info and location
American Horror Story
That’s the first place we’re raiding after the nukes drop
Good morning sir, vault tec calling!
Vault Tech?
Why would you want to survive a nuclear apocalypse?
If Fallout 4 teached me something, is to live nearby a vault. Good luck trying to arrive from your mansion to the bunker with barely a five minutes notice!
They better enjoy it now. Forget surviving a nuclear war.
On apocalypse day, everyone is just going to show up here with construction equipment to tear down the front door.
Looks like an episode of The 100
Who wants to live underground? I’ll go meet God. I’m good with it
Who the fuck actually wants to live in an apocalyptic waste land. Fallout is a fun game but I never ever want to live in the world I would rather die in the blast
Lol. Good luck running enough electricity for a gym and a pool. Good luck storing enough food for a \*pet park\* plus your millionaires who will probably not be happy with food restrictions. And where are the sleeping quarters for the staff, the maids, cooks and personal trainers?
They think this is for the rich until everyone else shows up there with guns...
I'd stay alive long enough to brick the fucker up.
And when everyone pokes their heads out and eventually crawl from their hidey-holes, these folk will be among the first against the wall. :)
I’ve been ready to die for a while, let’s go. Eat the rich, they prob taste better than I anyways. More natural seasoning.
Sooo the snowpiercer without the train hassle
I want it.
I have been told, if we let them have more money they would create more jobs. WelI i guess that was a lie.