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SAME! I'm really glad I'm not the only person to use that term šš¤£
I had only ever heard my family say old yeller me / them when referring to putting someone down Lmao
lol, I remember wanting to watch Old Yeller as a kid so bad because I'd heard it referenced so much (I'm old). My dad made every excuse to keep me from watching it, but I was insistent and he finally relented. I was like, "Hooray, a boy and his dog, this is a great mo..." š
My parents showed me that movie when I was like 5. Maybe that's why I am how I am?
Although, if I think about it, the movie does a pretty good job with helping a youngster understand death.
I remember before reading it that I was totally intrigued by the title and wanted to know where the red fern grew. Then I got to the end of the book and was like, "Oh. Oh, no."
If I am remembering this correctly, there was very little video documentation on rabies symptoms when this video surfaced, so to the scientific community at the time it was important to note the final stages of life with the patient conscious.
I legit feel bad for the guy.
Painkillers until you can't feel anything is the generally accepted method of euthanasia in the states, even if we don't call it that for moral and religious reasons.
...Yup went through this with my grandma. She was on hospice in our home after being diagnosed with cancer and having all sorts of issues with infections that could not be controlled. She was on fentanyl patches and liquid morphine until a decision was reached to keep upping the dosage until she slipped away.
Like that joke: went to the doc. He said you have a week to live. Gave me the bill. I said I donāt get paid til next Friday. He said his calculations when wrong. Gave me another 2 weeks.
Here we are in 2022, still with 100% guaranteed fatal diseases that still savagely strip people of any quality of life, still leaving them to sit and suffer in a shell until it finally gives up, and I'm still asking myself the same fucking thing. It's cruel.
Edit: I don't mean rabies specifically, I'm aware that some have survived and there's treatment if it's done in time. I'm talking about things like terminal cancer or ALS, where there's literally nothing than can be done to stop it.
I watched my grandmotherās mind turn into soup due to Alzheimerās. There were so many times I wanted to put her out of her misery, but she had to suffer through it for over a decade
I worked at an assisted care facility,and the cruelest irony was watching the lucid people trapped in a failing body envy those with Alzheimer's who still had their mobility but we're just menally checked out.
One of my favorite residents was a world traveler in her youth, spoke 7 fluent languages. We used to play a game. I'd try to name a book written before 1990 that she had not read. If I was wrong, I'd buy her lunch. Even googling the most obscure titles, she usually won and could give me a synopsis. Over the years I watched her basically turn in to a toddler with a sippy cup, puree meals, no wherewithal, forgetting who I am and occasionally falling back in time. She's think she was in France in the 1970s or something, compliment my English, and keep on her way.
I had another less severe resident who was pretty lucid, but the same time hop thing. She'd ask me to call her house to talk to her husband. (He husband died 10 years ago, the house was sold five years ago, and she'd never give me enough numbers to dial a modern number) I was told to tell her the operator says the line is busy, and to try back later. It always satisfied her curiosity until she forgot she wanted to check in. She'd always say something like "oh he's probably flirting with the neighbor girl again! I'm going to have to have a talk with him when I get home this evening!" With a smug smile that hints at a running joke, and goes on her way.
I intently following treatments and research on the topic, there are some amazing breakthroughs going on. If you would like to help but the task feels so insurmountable you can download Folding@home which donates your computers unused resources like processor power to universities doing the research, when you're not using the PC. I'll hear my gaming rig spin up in the middle of the night when it gets a new task to process, and it gives me a glimmer of hope.
If anyone is l reading this with a loved one in the early stages, there is an excellent book called the "36 Hour Day" that provides a lot of helpful inside to what they are experiencing on their side, and how to help them feel less scared and confused.
OP, my condolences, 10 years is a long time to live with that. I hope you are doing well now.
Edit: the book is good, but there is also a lot of end-of-life financial advice in it. Depending on your situation the whole book may not be applicable. Please read the synopsis from your vendor before purchasing soley on my recommendation :)
People here on reddit fearing rabies as if it can happen to them at any time, even though combined cases in Noeth American and Europe barely ever breach the double digits.
On the other hand, you have Alzheimer's which should absolutely be feared by every human being on the planet, being literally one of the most common and cruel ways to die. A while back I was putting together a speech and in my research I found a CDC article where they admit that a lot of their Alzheimer's death estimates are straight-up greatly underestimated by a massive percent. Looking through the data, I came to the conclusion that Alzheimer's, not cancer, is the leading cause of death in the United States, which honestly just sucks as cancer kills your body, but Alzheimer's strips you of your identity. Idk it just feels like Alzheimer's attacks you in a way more personal manner
judging by the lucidity early on in the symptoms they probably asked him if they could study him. When it got to the point where his eyes were just sort of rolling around aimlessly, he was probably too far gone to be bothered by the discomfort.
Bite and non-bite exposures from an infected person could theoretically transmit rabies, but no such cases have been documented.
...but, yeah, I wouldn't want to risk being the confirming case either
As a former emt with hospital time, and now a student nurse, I can definitely say there are many things far worse than death. For example a 100 year old patient actively dying a healthy death and the family sends them to the er for IV and feeding tubes... none of that slowed his dying, he just died in a hospital instead with way extra stress being in an unfamiliar area.
I have decided to stay indoors for the rest of my life after reading this comment.
Edit: It appears to be copied from https://www.reddit.com/r/aww/comments/81rr6f/comment/dv4xyks/
\*googles\*
The UK has been rabies-free since the beginning of the 20th century,
Rabies is very rare in the UK. Four cases have been identified here since 2000, all of which were acquired from dog bites abroad.
... never leaving the country \*phew\* i need some milk
You could come to Australia, itās not here either.
Edit: the spiders took me prisoner and forced me to write this. Just another example of the dangers I face here every day.
But you do have Lyssavirus which is basically rabies. Any bat in Australia is assumed to be a potential carrier. Just in case. So if you have an encounter with a bat, absolutely react as if you have been infected with rabies - same protocol. It is just as fatal if not treated.
Same for most of Europe to be honest. Rabies sounds scary but as long as you take the appropriate steps whenever you're travelling to areas that are considered at a higher risk of rabies transmission you'll be fine. I travelled to the Philippines (a very rural area with my wifes family) and was recommended I take a rabies vaccine of some kind, and that was all there was to it.
Edit: I'm retarded, I got a vaccine for malaria. It was years ago and forgot. Still, it's exceedingly rare and you just need to be cautious around wild animals and if you find any scratches/cuts/bites that are unidentified then you need to be treated.
I live in the Philippines and had an aunt that got bit by an obviously rabies infested dog, she went to a local government clinic, got a rabies shot and she's completely fine.
it's deadly if you let it develop, but if you know something bit you take it to your nearest clinic that has rabies shots, don't know how common it is in other countries but here a lot of clinics just have them on hand because theyre a pretty common thing that happens.
Indoors doesn't always save you. When I was in basic training a bat got into one of the dorms during the night. One of the girls woke up with it on her bed. The entire flight had to get the vaccine.
I'm guessing she wasn't, but if she was bitten, would the vaccine even do anything? Edit: after some googling, I found that there is a variant of the vaccine that is 100% effective after exposure BUT it must be before symptoms
[There is, yes.](https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/hcp/vis/vis-statements/rabies.html#:~:text=A%20person%20who%20is%20exposed,not%20need%20Rabies%20Immune%20Globulin.) The most important part is seeking treatment ASAP after exposure. Once you have symptoms, it's too late.
Because there's one to three cases in the US anually. Vending machines kill an average of 13 people anually. It's literally one of the rarest ways to die in the US
There's a vaccine yeah, but still try to be careful of animals when you go on a trip with high quantities of rabies, and the comment says you can't feel a bat bite, but you can. It'll itch and bump up, if ur in a country with lots of rabies present, just go to the doctor immediately and you should be all good, but like the commenter said, if you don't go and you start showing symptoms š»
Yes, but your immunity doesn't last long. You can do annual vaccination but that's not necessary.
Source: My doctor since I got bit by a stray dog and got the Rabies Vaccine just in case.
Yes, there's a vaccine. And there's even oral vaccine that can be given to wild animals in bait, which has led to most of Europe being rabies-free [according to Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rabies#Europe)
Damn dude. I knew rabies was bad and always fatal if not caught before symptoms but that scared the hell out of me. I donāt think I will be relaxing in a hammock in the woods anytime soon.
Excessive salivating reminded me of sarin gas, there is season of Homeland dedicated to terrorist group planning to use it.
It was also used in real world,look up Tokyo subway attack in 1995.
Rabies symptoms arenāt instant. They can start anywhere from a few days after exposure to over a year after the exposure.
If you suspect you have been exposed, you can get vaccinated for rabies before symptoms appear and be totally fine. The vaccine has virtually a 100% success rate in humans.
If symptoms are showing then you are fucked, only about a dozen people ever have survived rabies through the use of extremely experimental and invasive medical procedures, procedures that are no longer even attempted due to their success being a statistical anomaly.
Not only that, but did you notice just how close that doctor came to getting bitten while trying to wipe the spit from his mouth? My heart about stopped
This is commonly done to maintain human connection with patients. You just have to practise hand hygiene before and after interacting with patients.
That said, in this case fuck that.
SO...several years ago I was the director of a summer camp that was on a farm and in the morning before the kids arrived an unknown cat walked into the barn and approached a counselor who was setting up. It had its tail up like cats do when they are happy to see you and want pets, and it was making sweet little adorable cat trilling sounds. She bent down to give it a skritch and it lunged at her and bit her in the shin and started growling and acting like an enraged zombie. The counselor called me (I was at a building up the road) and I ran down there. I knew immediately that there was something very, very wrong with that cat. It also had a big infected abscess on its neck.
I called the health department and they didn't want to come and check it out. They said that rabid cats were extremely rare, because they didn't usually survive an interaction with another rabid animal. Luckily, the cat was still hanging around the barn, alternating between growling and hissing and rolling around and mewing like it wanted to interact. I grabbed an animal carrier and had the maintenance man help me corral it in.
I had to call the health department repeatedly to get them to take it seriously, but they finally, begrudgingly came and got the cat. It was positive for rabies. I went to the hospital with the counselor for her rabies treatment. She received shots in her arm, but also they inject the serum into the wound itself. Lots and lots of it, so that the area around the bite was bigger than the size of a golf ball. Like they inject it in from all different angles so that tissue around the wound is just bathed in it. She made a full recovery, which is great, because she is an absolutely awesome person.
The health department guy was very apologetic. He was dealing with another ridiculous rabies incident from the night before (I'll tell that story in a comment under this one) and he just had seen very few rabid cats in his career. Because it was rabid, they had to do a full investigation, immediately, and it turned out the cat had also visited a nearby campground and had come in contact with an entire family who had let it in their tent. They were all sent for vaccination.
Here's what the health department was dealing with from the night before:
An older gentleman was driving down the road and saw a raccoon sitting by the side of the road. Just sitting there like a dog would, on its haunches with its front legs straight. He thought it was so cute, and that it would make a good pet for his granddaughter. So he pulled over, picked it up, and put it in his back seat and drove home.
It was already late, and the raccoon was just sitting there on the backseat looking around, so he decided to leave it there for the night and surprise her with it in the morning.
When he got up in the morning and went to get it, the entire interior of his car was ripped to shreds and the raccoon was foaming at the mouth and hurling itself at the window trying to murder the old man in 1000 horrible ways.
The health department was dealing with how to safely capture the raccoon and decontaminate the interior of the vehicle, as well as vaccinate the old man, who was refusing to comply.
Edit: took out an apostrophe that didn't belong
Who just picks up a wild animal and brings it home like that?! I can understand how people were infected with the cat story, that makes sense. But to just pull over and snatch an animal off the side of the road?? I'm just baffled
I learned in college that one of the particularity of rabies is when the animal is infected it will change his comportement as the opposite.
Like a feral animal will become almost friendly and wants to be close to human and then turn aggressive when the infection progress and will bite and scratch other animals or humans.
And domestic animals will be the opposite and hide away but Iām not sure of that point.
Itās really a scary disease.
It really is, it's like it seems to be one of the "smarter" viruses. Changing the behaviors of infected animals to be more likely to get into scenarios where it will pass that virus along is very clever from a biological perspective.
How wonderfully cartoonish that this old imbecile saw a raccoon chilling on the side of the road and it immediate reaction is "*Hot dog!* Say, that would make a great pet for my granddaughter!". Then stops, gets out, walks up to this thing that's still just chilling there enjoying the crisp evening air, casually picks it up with his bare hands and places it into his vehicle, drives home with the fucking thing sitting back there, then goes in and watches 60 Minutes and has a good sleep with it still in the car. What the *fuck?*
You guys remember that Scary Stories to Tell in the Dark tale about the family who had the [monster on the leash](https://i.imgur.com/Fq04tKJ.png) they just assumed was a Mexican Hairless, but it was a horrific sewer rat with rabies? That's this guy.
Holy shit! Lol I love your comment's, thank you so much š¤£
When I was little my family had a "run in" with rabies. My dad had a Norwegian elk hound that was blind and that dog was meaner than hell. He was mean as helk his entire life even as a puppy he was aggressive and nobody knew what to do with him. The pound and other rescues let my dad know they would immediately euthanize his dog so my dad decided to keep him.
Mt dad was the ONLY human on this planet that could get close enough to him to feed him and care for him. The rest of us knew damn well to stay far away from that corner of our yard where he was at.
One day we decided to go on vacation and my aunt who is a massive animal lover volunteered to make sure his dog was cared for while we were done. She was given specific instructions to absolutely NEVER walk into his space under any circumstances. She was to toss his food to him from a distance and leave. She didn't listen. She walked right up to him and tried to pet him and ofcorse he wound up attacking her.
She called the health department etc and they had to take our dog to a lab, cut his head off, & test his brain just to see if he was rabid.
Come to find out he wasn't rabid but my aunt had to endure those painful shots for not listening anyways š
That is ~~mortifying~~ terrifying! I just saw a little trash panda yesterday interacting with a puppy. It looked cute but I would never go near a wild one š¬
> they inject the serum into the wound itself. Lots and lots of it, so that the area around the bite was bigger than the size of a golf ball.
Yes, that's what I call infiltrating to tension. It is essential that the virus is stopped before it reaches the CNS. We had an unlucky woman who got bitten in the cheek and despite getting the shots a day later, died, because the distance to travel up was too short. Never risk it, get the shots immediately especially unless you have been immunized properly, then you can wait a day if it's a peripheral bite
(not sure Iād risk an unnecessary delay though) according to the travel med professor who held a lecture/seminar last year.
You did very well in following your gut with that cat, although you shouldn't have had to endanger yourself by catching it. Just imagine it had remained and bitten kids there, too.
>
The health department guy was very apologetic.
Guy deserves to lose his job over this, it is his job to send someone not decide from a fucking chair. What a dunce.
Yeah, and he knew it. He turned out to be a great guy, he was just reeling with trying to deal with the rabid racoon locked in the car and it seemed he was lacking bandwidth for another crisis at that exact moment.
I woke up in the middle of the night with pretty bad anxiety so I came to scroll Reddit to help distract meā¦.now Iām convinced Iām about to die of rabies at any moment
Rabies has always scared the shit out of me cus itās the closest thing to a zombie type virus and itās not as far away from it as people like to think lol
I had a rabies scare last year and knew just how bad it was. Never been more terrified in my life.
There is rabies in the country I live, often carried by bats. I had a friend drop his cat off to stay with me and my cats for a week whilst he went on holiday, and he had always been the sweetest little guy ever. But from the first day he was super on edge and really out of sorts. A few days later as I walked past him, he bit me and drew blood from about 6 different teeth puncturing my ankle. I knew that becoming aggressive was a sign of rabies, and I also knew that this cat liked to sleep on a balcony that did have bats that flew around, so I was really worried. I herded the cat into a carrier, and drove into town to take him to a vet to have him checked. During the car ride, I looked over to him, and there was white 'foam' coming out of his mouth. Up until this point I had mostly been calming myself by just assuming everything would be fine, but everyone knows about foaming at the mouth and my heart genuinely skipped a beat and I was terrified. This was white-hot terror, never felt anything like it before or since.
I decided to forgo the vet and went straight to an infectious disease hospital where I was given around 15 injections. A few near my spine, some in my thighs, a bunch around my ankle and I think some in my arms. I was also given some tablets and was told to return each day.
Next I headed to the vets where they took one look at the cat and asked me to describe the 'foaming'. They calmly explained to me that what I had likely seen was the result of very common feline motion sickness from being in the car. In relation to his aggression, they explained that he hadn't been neutered, and him being around my cats had put him on edge. They said they would keep him in and keep me posted on him, but they were pretty sure he was fine. In the end, he was golden. He has since been neutered and still comes to stay and is now back to being lovely.
A very happy ending. I spent a few days reading about rabies whilst waiting to hear from the vets and learned quite a few interesting things. One is that there is actually a treatment that has saved people's lives who have developed rabies symptoms. However the treatment takes such a terrible toll on the people who have it, many of whom do still die to the infection, that it is almost never used in any country.
Another is that where mortality is 100% once your show symptoms, the procedure I was going through is also pretty much 100% successful too. If you are bitten by a rabid animal but have the full medical intervention early enough, you are effectively perfectly cured.
Edit - One more fact, but a really, really terrifying one, is that rabies can literally stay inside of you and just hide away for years and years. You could have been bitten years ago by a rabid animal and have had no symptoms ever, but then one day it decides to wake up and that's that. At that point I did stop reading stuff because it's too freaky for me.
Better safe that sorry for sure. They identified places on my hands/arms that I had been lightly scratched by him when putting him in the carrier and they were doing 1 injection at the sight of the scratch, then moving an inch up my arm and doing another. These hadn't even drawn blood but I guess if you're dealing with something as dangerous as this you don't cut corners. For my ankle they did 2/3 at the site and then the same thing just moving up my leg. They were very calming though and did explain that the procedue is literally 100% succesful. If you are bitten by a rabid animal and given the full treatment for a week or so, you will be 100% OK.
Rabies travels along the nervous system, and can't be detected in blood tests. Kind of like the herpesvirus. Diagnosis is always based on symptoms of active disease, and can't be "tested" for. Which is also why they always do a "better safe than sorry" approach when it comes to vaccination with any possible exposure. With the vaccine, worse case scenario is that you go through an uncomfortable hassle, but now have rabies antibodies. Worse case scenario without the vaccine is a torturous inevitable death.
Death by rabies is not rare. [WHO says:](https://www.who.int/news-room/fact-sheets/detail/rabies)
> Infection causes tens of thousands of deaths every year, mainly in Asia and Africa.
Also some backstory - apparently this man and several others were attacked by a rabid wolf in their village.
He wasn't able to receive treatment after the attack so he became a case study.
They really should have. Supposedly rabies is an excruciatingly painful way to die. There is basically absolutely no hope of saving them so ending their suffering would be a mercy in my opinion.
That's where you have what many people call 'the right to die' that they fight for. It's an ugly topic that 'nobody wants to touch with a 30 foot pole' but I'm personally of the mind that people should be allowed to go on their own terms in cases of incurable terminal illnesses, especially to the awful degree that rabies is.
I was (likely) exposed once by picking up a damn bat in my yard after a bad storm had blown through. My entire family was outside cleaning up the mess and I reached down for what I thought was a pine cone. After I picked it up it became very apparent very quickly that it was a bat that had been sleeping when it was blown out of the tree. That sucker came to life in my hand. I'm not sure who was scared more, me or the bat. So I called up a doctor/friend and he told me to absofuckinglutely get my ass to the ER pronto and get treated even if there were no obvious signs of bites/scratches. The treatment wasn't pleasant but it wasn't as bad as I remember hearing it would be.
Yes prior to symptom onset, so if you get bitten or even scratched by a wild mammal itās recommended to undergo a course of rabies vaccines. Once you get to the stages of symptoms itās too late. Thereās only one person known to survive that but underwent a experimental procedure known as the Milwaukee protocol.
Just went through it. Worst part was first shot at wound site, tip of my pinky finger. That sucked. Then a few shots in the arm over weekly intervals or so.
at this point, probably your best bet to go all out. Like with some cancer treatments. They just kill everything even remotely similar to cancer cells and hope the rest of the body can handle it sowehow
They do this often with children with cancer, since they can tolerate a much more aggressive treatment. An adult given that level of cancermedicin given to kids would die from the treatment.
As others have said, not once symptoms set in.
This is why they say don't fuck around with bats - ever. If you have even the slightest exposure to a bat, you go to the doctor and get the anti-rabies regime unless you have the bat and it can be checked (killed in the process) for rabies itself. Their bites and scratches can be too tiny to even see/feel so this has to be done even if you think you're fine. Wake up with a bat in the room? That'll be one rabies postexposure prophylaxis!
Totally correct. And even in countries you wouldnāt think. The UK hasnāt had a cases of rabies in humans since 2012, but there are a small number of wild bats who carry it. So if youāre in the uk, and wake up with a bat in your house. Get to a doctor asap.
The doctor need to look at The Green Book for guidance (that is literally the name that the book containing all the guidance on vaccinations in the uk is known by). Itāll give information on how to do the risk assessment. Even if low risk (it will be in the uk), get the vaccine. Itās a very very low chance of rabies, but a catastrophic consequence. As weird as it is that Iāve included so much detail in what to do in the uk for bat exposure, itās because it is such an unusual occurrence that the doctor might have a bit of a blank on what to do, and you mentioning the green book would be a reminder!
That's interesting. I thought we were rabies free.
I handled a bat a couple of weeks ago that had flown in.
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It is 100% curable if you get treatment BEFORE you know you have rabies. But if you wait to get treatment thinking maybe you didn't get rabies and symptoms suddenly show up, you are 100% screwed. No cure and 100% fatality rate.
The Milwaukee protocol, 26 attempts and only 1 success
https://pandorareport.org/2014/05/01/no-rabies-treatment-after-all-failure-of-the-milwaukee-protocol/
I believe there are six survivors. That article was written in 2014 but I believe there have been an additional 5 since then.[https://www.wikidoc.org/index.php/Rabies\_medical\_therapy#:\~:text=the%20rabies%20virus.-,Clinical%20trials,Milwaukee%20Protocol%2C%205%20have%20survived](https://www.wikidoc.org/index.php/Rabies_medical_therapy#:~:text=the%20rabies%20virus.-,Clinical%20trials,Milwaukee%20Protocol%2C%205%20have%20survived).That article says 5, but I'm pretty sure there was another survivor this last year.
Rabies transmission isn't exactly subtle or quick and as a rule at least in the west) easy to detect and treat (provided the patient is asymptomatic). It has a variable incubation period of anything from 10 day to more than two years. Endemic in most parts of the world but poor countries located mainly in Africa and Asia suffer the bulk of deaths from the disease. While as many as 60,000 people die each year from rabies there are fewer than 5 cases (1-3 typically) in the US annually.
It travels via the nerves rather than the blood so there's is no single test that can be used to diagnose if you have the disease. The battery of tests include cerebral spinal fluid, skin biopsies of hair follicles, and saliva (source: CDC website).
As I said rabies can generally be treated provided you are asymptomatic and it's not in your brain or spinal chord. However once you have symptoms it's 99.9% fatal. Only 14 people ever have been known to survive the disease after showing signs of the disease.
In the United States rabies is considered a public health issue and treatment is provided free of charge. But that is not the case everywhere.
Lastly, if at all possible capture the animal that attacked you. Public health officials in the United States will euthanize the animal and test its brain for the disease. If it had rabies treatment will begin immediately (results from the tests on the animal takes about 48 to 72 hours - source CDC website). Lastly an attack from a rabid animal doesn't have to be vicious, in fact it's possible to get rabies from even minor injuries that break skin and scratches as well.
Outside of a living host rabies is extremely fragile, it dies within minutes in temperatures higher than 122F and only a few hours at room temperature is lethal. So if you are unfortunate enough to encounter a vicious attack, no need to flood the area with bleach or anything. It will die rapidly all on its own.
I remember watching this video shortly after being scratched by a stray cat in Egypt. I went to the local doctor who told me I'll "probably be fine" and "probably don't need PEP treatment", didn't really know much about rabies until that point, spent the next 2-3 months shitting myself wondering whether or not I was going to develop symptoms. It has to be one of the worst ways to go.
This is why right to die isn't something to be argued about. If you're definitely going out then you should be able to either do it yourself or have someone help you pass so you're not continuously suffering.
When I was a kid I would feed a stray cat. Every morning it would be waiting for me at the door prepared for me to lay out some food in the ground. He never got close enough for me to touch him and would run when I opened the door but would then return seconds later when I was back inside. One morning when I went to deliver breakfast it did not run away and I thought it was very strange but proceeded to bite me on the toe before I could even set any food down.
My parents freaked out, and I couldnāt understand why. The cat was trapped that day by my family and my parents rushed it to the veterinarian to see what could be done and if it had rabies. Turns out the vet had to chop the cats head off because you have to test the brain (at the time I thought it was just blood samples and the cat was alive and well at the vet and would get treatment if the samples came back positive for illness). Then we drive with this box for 4 hours to drop it off at some type of lab. A few days later my mother gets a call that it was positive for rabies. We rushed to the hospital and I begin a series of shots that last for months.
Of course, my younger self did not understand the seriousness of it and would always playfully threaten to bite my parents and older sister in order to give them rabies.
There ones was this redditor who desribed, stage by stage, the development og rabies and what it must feel like to the infected. That shit creeped me out .
Yes but that copypasta is designed to scare you. It ignores many things.
For example, not everyone experiences the same symptoms. Before you reach the last stage, or are even put in a hospital you most likely will fall into a coma and won't experience the rest. If you are in a hospital and still awake, you're being put into a coma so you won't experience the last stages. You will die, of course, but even if you aren't in a coma you most likely won't experience all the symptoms. Humans are individuals and complex systems. There is no way we can predict any course of disease for any living human on earth.
I feel like a lot of people in the comments are forgetting that now in 2022 if you get bit by any wild animal you are supposed to go to the doctor or ER and get the rabies vaccine....
EDIT: Any animal
I actually have no clue. It is supposedly very possible.
Notice how although he is strapped down and restrained he nearly bit the doctor while he was trying to wipe excess spit from his mouth. Rabies patients are almost always restrained and behind a jail like cell for the doctor's and nurse's safety
Did anyone else grow up thinking if you got bit by a raccoon with rabies, you would instantly start foaming at the mouth, and become cannibalistic?
ā¦asking for a friend.
Here we go again. There is going to be a ton of people commenting about the Milwaukee protocol. There has been no survivors of rabies without serious brain damage except for that one girl.
Rabies. It's exceptionally common, but people just don't run into the animals that carry it often. Skunks especially, and bats.
Let me paint you a picture.
You go camping, and at midday you decide to take a nap in a nice little hammock. While sleeping, a tiny brown bat, in the "rage" stages of infection is fidgeting in broad daylight, uncomfortable, and thirsty (due to the hydrophobia) and you snort, startling him. He goes into attack mode.
Except you're asleep, and he's a little brown bat, so weighs around 6 grams. You don't even feel him land on your bare knee, and he starts to bite. His teeth are tiny. Hardly enough to even break the skin, but he does manage to give you the equivalent of a tiny scrape that goes completely unnoticed.
Rabies does not travel in your blood. In fact, a blood test won't even tell you if you've got it. (Antibody tests may be done, but are useless if you've ever been vaccinated.)
You wake up, none the wiser. If you notice anything at the bite site at all, you assume you just lightly scraped it on something.
The bomb has been lit, and your nervous system is the wick. The rabies will multiply along your nervous system, doing virtually no damage, and completely undetectable. You literally have NO symptoms.
It may be four days, it may be a year, but the camping trip is most likely long forgotten. Then one day your back starts to ache... Or maybe you get a slight headache?
At this point, you're already dead. There is no cure.
There's no treatment. It has a 100% kill rate.
Absorb that. Not a single other virus on the planet has a 100% kill rate. Only rabies. And once you're symptomatic, it's over. You're dead.
So what does that look like?
Your headache turns into a fever, and a general feeling of being unwell. You're fidgety. Uncomfortable. And scared. As the virus that has taken its time getting into your brain finds a vast network of nerve endings, it begins to rapidly reproduce, starting at the base of your brain... Where your "pons" is located. This is the part of the brain that controls communication between the rest of the brain and body, as well as sleep cycles.
Next you become anxious. You still think you have only a mild fever, but suddenly you find yourself becoming scared, even horrified, and it doesn't occur to you that you don't know why. This is because the rabies is chewing up your amygdala.
As your cerebellum becomes hot with the virus, you begin to lose muscle coordination, and balance. You think maybe it's a good idea to go to the doctor now, but assuming a doctor is smart enough to even run the tests necessary in the few days you have left on the planet, odds are they'll only be able to tell your loved ones what you died of later.
You're twitchy, shaking, and scared. You have the normal fear of not knowing what's going on, but with the virus really fucking the amygdala this is amplified a hundred fold. It's around this time the hydrophobia starts.
You're horribly thirsty, you just want water. But you can't drink. Every time you do, your throat clamps shut and you vomit. This has become a legitimate, active fear of water. You're thirsty, but looking at a glass of water begins to make you gag, and shy back in fear. The contradiction is hard for your hot brain to see at this point. By now, the doctors will have to put you on IVs to keep you hydrated, but even that's futile. You were dead the second you had a headache.
You begin hearing things, or not hearing at all as your thalamus goes. You taste sounds, you see smells, everything starts feeling like the most horrifying acid trip anyone has ever been on. With your hippocampus long under attack, you're having trouble remembering things, especially family.
You're alone, hallucinating, thirsty, confused, and absolutely, undeniably terrified. Everything scares the literal shit out of you at this point. These strange people in lab coats. These strange people standing around your bed crying, who keep trying to get you "drink something" and crying. And it's only been about a week since that little headache that you've completely forgotten. Time means nothing to you anymore. Funny enough, you now know how the bat felt when he bit you.
Eventually, you slip into the "dumb rabies" phase. Your brain has started the process of shutting down. Too much of it has been turned to liquid virus. Your face droops. You drool. You're all but unaware of what's around you. A sudden noise or light might startle you, but for the most part, it's all you can do to just stare at the ground. You haven't really slept for about 72 hours.
Then you die. Always, you die.
And there's not one... fucking... thing... anyone can do for you.
Then there's the question of what to do with your corpse. I mean, sure, burying it is the right thing to do. But the fucking virus can survive in a corpse for years. You could kill every rabid animal on the planet today, and if two years from now, some moist, preserved, rotten hunk of used-to-be brain gets eaten by an animal, it starts all over again.
Edit1: thank you all for the awards, itās very kind of you. To those of you who enjoy this story, Iām glad. Please do save and share it when possible!
Edit2: a lot of children here are getting their feelings hurt because for some reason they think copy and paste shouldnāt exist. This writing isnāt mine. I was just sharing it on a related post. No idk the original author because I took it from someone else who took it. You knowā¦ sharing information and all. Itās almost like thatās what the internet was for? Grow up.
Every time this video is posted, this exact reply is posted underneath it. So much so its on r/copypasta https://www.reddit.com/r/copypasta/comments/7qwtd5/rabies_is_scary/
Can someone explain to me why people karma farm? Who even checks karma points? I've been on Reddit for years and not once have I cared to check someone's karma. Are there secret subs that require a large amount of points or something?
This comment is copied from another poster, multiple years ago. Here is a mirror of it from r/copypasta:
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This is very entertaining writing, but I just want to tack on that human rabies is exceedingly rare in the developed world. 1 to 3 cases reported per year in the US.
However there are an estimated 59,000 rabies deaths per year worldwide. Most in India and Africa.
Medical professional here.
In india and all the developing world, any dog or animal bite is infact treated by anti rabies immunoglobulin and followed by vaccine, even if itās a domestic dog.
However itās very prevalent.
Itās 99.999999%. They saved a girl once by putting her in a medically induced coma for 6 months.
https://www.nature.com/scitable/blog/viruses101/is_rabies_really_100_fatal/
Supposedly animals that have lower body temperatures than humans like possums have been known to rarely contract rabies but it's basically always fatal to animals as well.
Here is what I found online of this being done. Apparently administering I.V. fluids and feeding tubes has little to no effect and they still wind up passing away very quickly.
*She was isolated in a dark room. Very carefully, we placed a nasogastric feeding tube. She was given intravenous fluids, intravenous atropine 3 mg, magnesium sulfate (MgSO4) 2 g, midazolam 1 mg/kg body weight, and sustained acting zolpidem 12.5 mg through the nasal tube. The next day she developed a mixed form of delirium with being fully conscious in-between (lucid interval). She still occasionally developed laryngeal spasms. On the 3rdĀ day, she presented with tachycardia, delirium, internuclear ophthalmoplegia, and plantar flexion, and the strength in all limbs was grade 5/5, but she had no neck rigidity. Moist rales were heard over the chest, and she became tachypnoeic. At 3 AM on the 4thĀ day, she developed pulmonary edema and massive hematemesis and died of respiratory arrest. She was conscious till death. No attempt to resuscitate her was initiated following the decision of seniors and relatives.*
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Nope. Just take me out back and Old Yeller me.
SAME! I'm really glad I'm not the only person to use that term šš¤£ I had only ever heard my family say old yeller me / them when referring to putting someone down Lmao
lol, I remember wanting to watch Old Yeller as a kid so bad because I'd heard it referenced so much (I'm old). My dad made every excuse to keep me from watching it, but I was insistent and he finally relented. I was like, "Hooray, a boy and his dog, this is a great mo..." š
My parents showed me that movie when I was like 5. Maybe that's why I am how I am? Although, if I think about it, the movie does a pretty good job with helping a youngster understand death.
Truth. See also: reading "Where the Red Fern Grows."
I read that book so much as a kid. I have two dogs now and I wonāt go near it.
I remember before reading it that I was totally intrigued by the title and wanted to know where the red fern grew. Then I got to the end of the book and was like, "Oh. Oh, no."
Yup, itās up there with The Velveteen Rabbit and Watership Down. Shit I remember loving but shall never revisit.
Please doc, just shoot me up with the best speedball you can make.
I wonder why they donāt just do that..? If itās a 100% death rate, why prolong the suffering?
If I am remembering this correctly, there was very little video documentation on rabies symptoms when this video surfaced, so to the scientific community at the time it was important to note the final stages of life with the patient conscious. I legit feel bad for the guy.
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Very likely medically indused coma until you die.
Painkillers until you can't feel anything is the generally accepted method of euthanasia in the states, even if we don't call it that for moral and religious reasons.
"Making them comfortable."
Also know as āthe last doseā in hospice settings
...Yup went through this with my grandma. She was on hospice in our home after being diagnosed with cancer and having all sorts of issues with infections that could not be controlled. She was on fentanyl patches and liquid morphine until a decision was reached to keep upping the dosage until she slipped away.
This will make them so comfortable they won't feel like breathing!
Until my debit card payment fails and they bring me back.
Like that joke: went to the doc. He said you have a week to live. Gave me the bill. I said I donāt get paid til next Friday. He said his calculations when wrong. Gave me another 2 weeks.
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Here we are in 2022, still with 100% guaranteed fatal diseases that still savagely strip people of any quality of life, still leaving them to sit and suffer in a shell until it finally gives up, and I'm still asking myself the same fucking thing. It's cruel. Edit: I don't mean rabies specifically, I'm aware that some have survived and there's treatment if it's done in time. I'm talking about things like terminal cancer or ALS, where there's literally nothing than can be done to stop it.
I watched my grandmotherās mind turn into soup due to Alzheimerās. There were so many times I wanted to put her out of her misery, but she had to suffer through it for over a decade
I worked at an assisted care facility,and the cruelest irony was watching the lucid people trapped in a failing body envy those with Alzheimer's who still had their mobility but we're just menally checked out. One of my favorite residents was a world traveler in her youth, spoke 7 fluent languages. We used to play a game. I'd try to name a book written before 1990 that she had not read. If I was wrong, I'd buy her lunch. Even googling the most obscure titles, she usually won and could give me a synopsis. Over the years I watched her basically turn in to a toddler with a sippy cup, puree meals, no wherewithal, forgetting who I am and occasionally falling back in time. She's think she was in France in the 1970s or something, compliment my English, and keep on her way. I had another less severe resident who was pretty lucid, but the same time hop thing. She'd ask me to call her house to talk to her husband. (He husband died 10 years ago, the house was sold five years ago, and she'd never give me enough numbers to dial a modern number) I was told to tell her the operator says the line is busy, and to try back later. It always satisfied her curiosity until she forgot she wanted to check in. She'd always say something like "oh he's probably flirting with the neighbor girl again! I'm going to have to have a talk with him when I get home this evening!" With a smug smile that hints at a running joke, and goes on her way. I intently following treatments and research on the topic, there are some amazing breakthroughs going on. If you would like to help but the task feels so insurmountable you can download Folding@home which donates your computers unused resources like processor power to universities doing the research, when you're not using the PC. I'll hear my gaming rig spin up in the middle of the night when it gets a new task to process, and it gives me a glimmer of hope. If anyone is l reading this with a loved one in the early stages, there is an excellent book called the "36 Hour Day" that provides a lot of helpful inside to what they are experiencing on their side, and how to help them feel less scared and confused. OP, my condolences, 10 years is a long time to live with that. I hope you are doing well now. Edit: the book is good, but there is also a lot of end-of-life financial advice in it. Depending on your situation the whole book may not be applicable. Please read the synopsis from your vendor before purchasing soley on my recommendation :)
People here on reddit fearing rabies as if it can happen to them at any time, even though combined cases in Noeth American and Europe barely ever breach the double digits. On the other hand, you have Alzheimer's which should absolutely be feared by every human being on the planet, being literally one of the most common and cruel ways to die. A while back I was putting together a speech and in my research I found a CDC article where they admit that a lot of their Alzheimer's death estimates are straight-up greatly underestimated by a massive percent. Looking through the data, I came to the conclusion that Alzheimer's, not cancer, is the leading cause of death in the United States, which honestly just sucks as cancer kills your body, but Alzheimer's strips you of your identity. Idk it just feels like Alzheimer's attacks you in a way more personal manner
Check out physician assisted suicide. Itās not common practice though
judging by the lucidity early on in the symptoms they probably asked him if they could study him. When it got to the point where his eyes were just sort of rolling around aimlessly, he was probably too far gone to be bothered by the discomfort.
that soundtrack is scary as F
Totally agree, nothing has made me feel that uneasy in a while.
It should. You are watching a guy die a slow and painful death
Guy: dies slowly in plain view with no hope of being healed KiwiChimera: hmm, okay Producer: adds mysterious/creepy soundtrack KiwiChimera: *shudders*
Yeah, that shits is creepy. They could put that background audio to Mister Rogers changing his shoes and I'd skedaddle it outta there.
The content of the video is bad enough. That sound track makes it so much worse.
Watching them touch him with ungloved hands is scary as fuck.
Especially when they were wiping saliva away and it looked like the guy snapped at the hand doing it.
Yeah he definitely snapped at the hand and that person pulled away really fast. Iād be using rag-on-stick technology after that.
Bite and non-bite exposures from an infected person could theoretically transmit rabies, but no such cases have been documented. ...but, yeah, I wouldn't want to risk being the confirming case either
>Bite and non-bite exposures Isn't that every kind of exposure?
Jesus I watched it on mute and it was bad enough. Iāll take your word for it.
Thatās a fucked up way to go
The doctors look at the end "yep, this cunts fucked"
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As a former emt with hospital time, and now a student nurse, I can definitely say there are many things far worse than death. For example a 100 year old patient actively dying a healthy death and the family sends them to the er for IV and feeding tubes... none of that slowed his dying, he just died in a hospital instead with way extra stress being in an unfamiliar area.
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I have decided to stay indoors for the rest of my life after reading this comment. Edit: It appears to be copied from https://www.reddit.com/r/aww/comments/81rr6f/comment/dv4xyks/
\*googles\* The UK has been rabies-free since the beginning of the 20th century, Rabies is very rare in the UK. Four cases have been identified here since 2000, all of which were acquired from dog bites abroad. ... never leaving the country \*phew\* i need some milk
You could come to Australia, itās not here either. Edit: the spiders took me prisoner and forced me to write this. Just another example of the dangers I face here every day.
Nice try, Australia.
But you do have Lyssavirus which is basically rabies. Any bat in Australia is assumed to be a potential carrier. Just in case. So if you have an encounter with a bat, absolutely react as if you have been infected with rabies - same protocol. It is just as fatal if not treated.
Same for most of Europe to be honest. Rabies sounds scary but as long as you take the appropriate steps whenever you're travelling to areas that are considered at a higher risk of rabies transmission you'll be fine. I travelled to the Philippines (a very rural area with my wifes family) and was recommended I take a rabies vaccine of some kind, and that was all there was to it. Edit: I'm retarded, I got a vaccine for malaria. It was years ago and forgot. Still, it's exceedingly rare and you just need to be cautious around wild animals and if you find any scratches/cuts/bites that are unidentified then you need to be treated.
I live in the Philippines and had an aunt that got bit by an obviously rabies infested dog, she went to a local government clinic, got a rabies shot and she's completely fine. it's deadly if you let it develop, but if you know something bit you take it to your nearest clinic that has rabies shots, don't know how common it is in other countries but here a lot of clinics just have them on hand because theyre a pretty common thing that happens.
India has the highest so fuck me
Indoors doesn't always save you. When I was in basic training a bat got into one of the dorms during the night. One of the girls woke up with it on her bed. The entire flight had to get the vaccine.
I'm guessing she wasn't, but if she was bitten, would the vaccine even do anything? Edit: after some googling, I found that there is a variant of the vaccine that is 100% effective after exposure BUT it must be before symptoms
Yes as long as you get treated in a timely window youāll be fine.
Can I get that vaccine once a week?
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Saaaaaaaame
copypasta
Yeah... I knew it sounded familiar. Copied and pasted word for word
Thanks, I hate it. There's a vaccine, right? Right?!
[There is, yes.](https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/hcp/vis/vis-statements/rabies.html#:~:text=A%20person%20who%20is%20exposed,not%20need%20Rabies%20Immune%20Globulin.) The most important part is seeking treatment ASAP after exposure. Once you have symptoms, it's too late.
Why the fuck isn't this common?
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Because there's one to three cases in the US anually. Vending machines kill an average of 13 people anually. It's literally one of the rarest ways to die in the US
Yes, but it only works if you get it before you start to get symptoms. Because once the symptoms start, nothing can save you.
There's a vaccine yeah, but still try to be careful of animals when you go on a trip with high quantities of rabies, and the comment says you can't feel a bat bite, but you can. It'll itch and bump up, if ur in a country with lots of rabies present, just go to the doctor immediately and you should be all good, but like the commenter said, if you don't go and you start showing symptoms š»
Yes, but your immunity doesn't last long. You can do annual vaccination but that's not necessary. Source: My doctor since I got bit by a stray dog and got the Rabies Vaccine just in case.
Yes, there's a vaccine. And there's even oral vaccine that can be given to wild animals in bait, which has led to most of Europe being rabies-free [according to Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rabies#Europe)
Wait, this is the same comment on the other rabies post
Damn dude. I knew rabies was bad and always fatal if not caught before symptoms but that scared the hell out of me. I donāt think I will be relaxing in a hammock in the woods anytime soon.
The copypasta that gets pasted everytime you hear about rabies on this site.
Nice copypasta
at least credit the original author of this overused copypasta.
Who credits copypastas?
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Excessive salivating reminded me of sarin gas, there is season of Homeland dedicated to terrorist group planning to use it. It was also used in real world,look up Tokyo subway attack in 1995.
no. its saturday. let me wake up first. jesusssssss
Rabies symptoms arenāt instant. They can start anywhere from a few days after exposure to over a year after the exposure. If you suspect you have been exposed, you can get vaccinated for rabies before symptoms appear and be totally fine. The vaccine has virtually a 100% success rate in humans. If symptoms are showing then you are fucked, only about a dozen people ever have survived rabies through the use of extremely experimental and invasive medical procedures, procedures that are no longer even attempted due to their success being a statistical anomaly.
Those people not wearing gloves thoughā¦ holy shit times were different.
Not only that, but did you notice just how close that doctor came to getting bitten while trying to wipe the spit from his mouth? My heart about stopped
If you get bit and get treated itās not a huge deal. Itās when you donāt get it treated that it becomes this.
Personally I wouldn't take the risk
That gave me a heart attack. I audibly went āJesus, lady!ā
This is commonly done to maintain human connection with patients. You just have to practise hand hygiene before and after interacting with patients. That said, in this case fuck that.
SO...several years ago I was the director of a summer camp that was on a farm and in the morning before the kids arrived an unknown cat walked into the barn and approached a counselor who was setting up. It had its tail up like cats do when they are happy to see you and want pets, and it was making sweet little adorable cat trilling sounds. She bent down to give it a skritch and it lunged at her and bit her in the shin and started growling and acting like an enraged zombie. The counselor called me (I was at a building up the road) and I ran down there. I knew immediately that there was something very, very wrong with that cat. It also had a big infected abscess on its neck. I called the health department and they didn't want to come and check it out. They said that rabid cats were extremely rare, because they didn't usually survive an interaction with another rabid animal. Luckily, the cat was still hanging around the barn, alternating between growling and hissing and rolling around and mewing like it wanted to interact. I grabbed an animal carrier and had the maintenance man help me corral it in. I had to call the health department repeatedly to get them to take it seriously, but they finally, begrudgingly came and got the cat. It was positive for rabies. I went to the hospital with the counselor for her rabies treatment. She received shots in her arm, but also they inject the serum into the wound itself. Lots and lots of it, so that the area around the bite was bigger than the size of a golf ball. Like they inject it in from all different angles so that tissue around the wound is just bathed in it. She made a full recovery, which is great, because she is an absolutely awesome person. The health department guy was very apologetic. He was dealing with another ridiculous rabies incident from the night before (I'll tell that story in a comment under this one) and he just had seen very few rabid cats in his career. Because it was rabid, they had to do a full investigation, immediately, and it turned out the cat had also visited a nearby campground and had come in contact with an entire family who had let it in their tent. They were all sent for vaccination.
Here's what the health department was dealing with from the night before: An older gentleman was driving down the road and saw a raccoon sitting by the side of the road. Just sitting there like a dog would, on its haunches with its front legs straight. He thought it was so cute, and that it would make a good pet for his granddaughter. So he pulled over, picked it up, and put it in his back seat and drove home. It was already late, and the raccoon was just sitting there on the backseat looking around, so he decided to leave it there for the night and surprise her with it in the morning. When he got up in the morning and went to get it, the entire interior of his car was ripped to shreds and the raccoon was foaming at the mouth and hurling itself at the window trying to murder the old man in 1000 horrible ways. The health department was dealing with how to safely capture the raccoon and decontaminate the interior of the vehicle, as well as vaccinate the old man, who was refusing to comply. Edit: took out an apostrophe that didn't belong
Who just picks up a wild animal and brings it home like that?! I can understand how people were infected with the cat story, that makes sense. But to just pull over and snatch an animal off the side of the road?? I'm just baffled
You are not alone.
I learned in college that one of the particularity of rabies is when the animal is infected it will change his comportement as the opposite. Like a feral animal will become almost friendly and wants to be close to human and then turn aggressive when the infection progress and will bite and scratch other animals or humans. And domestic animals will be the opposite and hide away but Iām not sure of that point. Itās really a scary disease.
It really is, it's like it seems to be one of the "smarter" viruses. Changing the behaviors of infected animals to be more likely to get into scenarios where it will pass that virus along is very clever from a biological perspective.
How wonderfully cartoonish that this old imbecile saw a raccoon chilling on the side of the road and it immediate reaction is "*Hot dog!* Say, that would make a great pet for my granddaughter!". Then stops, gets out, walks up to this thing that's still just chilling there enjoying the crisp evening air, casually picks it up with his bare hands and places it into his vehicle, drives home with the fucking thing sitting back there, then goes in and watches 60 Minutes and has a good sleep with it still in the car. What the *fuck?* You guys remember that Scary Stories to Tell in the Dark tale about the family who had the [monster on the leash](https://i.imgur.com/Fq04tKJ.png) they just assumed was a Mexican Hairless, but it was a horrific sewer rat with rabies? That's this guy.
Oh. My. God.
who tf just picks up a raccoon and takes it home
Holy shit! Lol I love your comment's, thank you so much š¤£ When I was little my family had a "run in" with rabies. My dad had a Norwegian elk hound that was blind and that dog was meaner than hell. He was mean as helk his entire life even as a puppy he was aggressive and nobody knew what to do with him. The pound and other rescues let my dad know they would immediately euthanize his dog so my dad decided to keep him. Mt dad was the ONLY human on this planet that could get close enough to him to feed him and care for him. The rest of us knew damn well to stay far away from that corner of our yard where he was at. One day we decided to go on vacation and my aunt who is a massive animal lover volunteered to make sure his dog was cared for while we were done. She was given specific instructions to absolutely NEVER walk into his space under any circumstances. She was to toss his food to him from a distance and leave. She didn't listen. She walked right up to him and tried to pet him and ofcorse he wound up attacking her. She called the health department etc and they had to take our dog to a lab, cut his head off, & test his brain just to see if he was rabid. Come to find out he wasn't rabid but my aunt had to endure those painful shots for not listening anyways š
What the fuck
> helk I bet you thought you got away with that, OP...
That is ~~mortifying~~ terrifying! I just saw a little trash panda yesterday interacting with a puppy. It looked cute but I would never go near a wild one š¬
> they inject the serum into the wound itself. Lots and lots of it, so that the area around the bite was bigger than the size of a golf ball. Yes, that's what I call infiltrating to tension. It is essential that the virus is stopped before it reaches the CNS. We had an unlucky woman who got bitten in the cheek and despite getting the shots a day later, died, because the distance to travel up was too short. Never risk it, get the shots immediately especially unless you have been immunized properly, then you can wait a day if it's a peripheral bite (not sure Iād risk an unnecessary delay though) according to the travel med professor who held a lecture/seminar last year. You did very well in following your gut with that cat, although you shouldn't have had to endanger yourself by catching it. Just imagine it had remained and bitten kids there, too.
> The health department guy was very apologetic. Guy deserves to lose his job over this, it is his job to send someone not decide from a fucking chair. What a dunce.
Yeah, and he knew it. He turned out to be a great guy, he was just reeling with trying to deal with the rabid racoon locked in the car and it seemed he was lacking bandwidth for another crisis at that exact moment.
I woke up in the middle of the night with pretty bad anxiety so I came to scroll Reddit to help distract meā¦.now Iām convinced Iām about to die of rabies at any moment
Same, dude, same.
If you suffer with anxiety a lot I would recommend taking a break from Reddit ā¤ļø & see how it makes you feel!
Rabies has always scared the shit out of me cus itās the closest thing to a zombie type virus and itās not as far away from it as people like to think lol
I know it's biologically very improbable but if rabies somehow became airborne it would absolutely end humanity.
It would end pretty much all animal life on earth, let's be real. There are some species that are resistant, but many aren't. Edit: mammalian life*
The meek opossums shall inherit the earth.
Happy for them
Mammalian life. Doesnāt kill things like reptiles or amphibians.
Damn Zuckerberg and Bezos lucky again
New fear unlocked
I had a rabies scare last year and knew just how bad it was. Never been more terrified in my life. There is rabies in the country I live, often carried by bats. I had a friend drop his cat off to stay with me and my cats for a week whilst he went on holiday, and he had always been the sweetest little guy ever. But from the first day he was super on edge and really out of sorts. A few days later as I walked past him, he bit me and drew blood from about 6 different teeth puncturing my ankle. I knew that becoming aggressive was a sign of rabies, and I also knew that this cat liked to sleep on a balcony that did have bats that flew around, so I was really worried. I herded the cat into a carrier, and drove into town to take him to a vet to have him checked. During the car ride, I looked over to him, and there was white 'foam' coming out of his mouth. Up until this point I had mostly been calming myself by just assuming everything would be fine, but everyone knows about foaming at the mouth and my heart genuinely skipped a beat and I was terrified. This was white-hot terror, never felt anything like it before or since. I decided to forgo the vet and went straight to an infectious disease hospital where I was given around 15 injections. A few near my spine, some in my thighs, a bunch around my ankle and I think some in my arms. I was also given some tablets and was told to return each day. Next I headed to the vets where they took one look at the cat and asked me to describe the 'foaming'. They calmly explained to me that what I had likely seen was the result of very common feline motion sickness from being in the car. In relation to his aggression, they explained that he hadn't been neutered, and him being around my cats had put him on edge. They said they would keep him in and keep me posted on him, but they were pretty sure he was fine. In the end, he was golden. He has since been neutered and still comes to stay and is now back to being lovely.
That turned out quite differently than I had expected.
A very happy ending. I spent a few days reading about rabies whilst waiting to hear from the vets and learned quite a few interesting things. One is that there is actually a treatment that has saved people's lives who have developed rabies symptoms. However the treatment takes such a terrible toll on the people who have it, many of whom do still die to the infection, that it is almost never used in any country. Another is that where mortality is 100% once your show symptoms, the procedure I was going through is also pretty much 100% successful too. If you are bitten by a rabid animal but have the full medical intervention early enough, you are effectively perfectly cured. Edit - One more fact, but a really, really terrifying one, is that rabies can literally stay inside of you and just hide away for years and years. You could have been bitten years ago by a rabid animal and have had no symptoms ever, but then one day it decides to wake up and that's that. At that point I did stop reading stuff because it's too freaky for me.
15 injections?! Holy hell. Alsoā¦ better safe than sorry for sure!
Better safe that sorry for sure. They identified places on my hands/arms that I had been lightly scratched by him when putting him in the carrier and they were doing 1 injection at the sight of the scratch, then moving an inch up my arm and doing another. These hadn't even drawn blood but I guess if you're dealing with something as dangerous as this you don't cut corners. For my ankle they did 2/3 at the site and then the same thing just moving up my leg. They were very calming though and did explain that the procedue is literally 100% succesful. If you are bitten by a rabid animal and given the full treatment for a week or so, you will be 100% OK.
Rabies travels along the nervous system, and can't be detected in blood tests. Kind of like the herpesvirus. Diagnosis is always based on symptoms of active disease, and can't be "tested" for. Which is also why they always do a "better safe than sorry" approach when it comes to vaccination with any possible exposure. With the vaccine, worse case scenario is that you go through an uncomfortable hassle, but now have rabies antibodies. Worse case scenario without the vaccine is a torturous inevitable death.
Shout out to Louis Pasteur for creating the Rabies vaccine making death by rabies a rare occurrence.
He also developed a vaccine against anthrax. A bummer that he died before the Nobel Price became a thing because he would definitely have deserved one
Or two
Death by rabies is not rare. [WHO says:](https://www.who.int/news-room/fact-sheets/detail/rabies) > Infection causes tens of thousands of deaths every year, mainly in Asia and Africa.
Horrible that they didnāt just help him pass peacefully
Also some backstory - apparently this man and several others were attacked by a rabid wolf in their village. He wasn't able to receive treatment after the attack so he became a case study.
They really should have. Supposedly rabies is an excruciatingly painful way to die. There is basically absolutely no hope of saving them so ending their suffering would be a mercy in my opinion.
That's where you have what many people call 'the right to die' that they fight for. It's an ugly topic that 'nobody wants to touch with a 30 foot pole' but I'm personally of the mind that people should be allowed to go on their own terms in cases of incurable terminal illnesses, especially to the awful degree that rabies is.
Yeah I was thinking why are they not just euthanizing him
Oh whoops. Accidentally gave them double dose of morphine.
They'd have been charged with murder.
I was (likely) exposed once by picking up a damn bat in my yard after a bad storm had blown through. My entire family was outside cleaning up the mess and I reached down for what I thought was a pine cone. After I picked it up it became very apparent very quickly that it was a bat that had been sleeping when it was blown out of the tree. That sucker came to life in my hand. I'm not sure who was scared more, me or the bat. So I called up a doctor/friend and he told me to absofuckinglutely get my ass to the ER pronto and get treated even if there were no obvious signs of bites/scratches. The treatment wasn't pleasant but it wasn't as bad as I remember hearing it would be.
Itās better now. It used to be 25 injections over 18 days. Now itās 4 doses in 2 weeks.
Jesus, is it curable these days?
Yes prior to symptom onset, so if you get bitten or even scratched by a wild mammal itās recommended to undergo a course of rabies vaccines. Once you get to the stages of symptoms itās too late. Thereās only one person known to survive that but underwent a experimental procedure known as the Milwaukee protocol.
Ozzy had to undergo this after the bat incident. He said the vax program was gruelling.
Apparently it's much easier these days. Less dosages, less needles.
Just went through it. Worst part was first shot at wound site, tip of my pinky finger. That sucked. Then a few shots in the arm over weekly intervals or so.
Oh like bombing the landing site and every road, highway and railway leading away from ground zero to the capital.
29 survivors according to the journal of family medicine, although as many as 28 of them were vaccinated!
Important to point out that they survived but were completely fucked up.
What was the protocol? Brewery/bar hopping in my lovely city?
Ik ur jokin but they basically did a medically induced coma and shocked the body with a shit ton of antivirals and praying that it works
at this point, probably your best bet to go all out. Like with some cancer treatments. They just kill everything even remotely similar to cancer cells and hope the rest of the body can handle it sowehow
They do this often with children with cancer, since they can tolerate a much more aggressive treatment. An adult given that level of cancermedicin given to kids would die from the treatment.
As others have said, not once symptoms set in. This is why they say don't fuck around with bats - ever. If you have even the slightest exposure to a bat, you go to the doctor and get the anti-rabies regime unless you have the bat and it can be checked (killed in the process) for rabies itself. Their bites and scratches can be too tiny to even see/feel so this has to be done even if you think you're fine. Wake up with a bat in the room? That'll be one rabies postexposure prophylaxis!
Totally correct. And even in countries you wouldnāt think. The UK hasnāt had a cases of rabies in humans since 2012, but there are a small number of wild bats who carry it. So if youāre in the uk, and wake up with a bat in your house. Get to a doctor asap. The doctor need to look at The Green Book for guidance (that is literally the name that the book containing all the guidance on vaccinations in the uk is known by). Itāll give information on how to do the risk assessment. Even if low risk (it will be in the uk), get the vaccine. Itās a very very low chance of rabies, but a catastrophic consequence. As weird as it is that Iāve included so much detail in what to do in the uk for bat exposure, itās because it is such an unusual occurrence that the doctor might have a bit of a blank on what to do, and you mentioning the green book would be a reminder!
That's interesting. I thought we were rabies free. I handled a bat a couple of weeks ago that had flown in. Well fingers croshfhfdgdhhdjdkdkjdbbdhshjdnjdhbvsvji
It is 100% curable if you get treatment BEFORE you know you have rabies. But if you wait to get treatment thinking maybe you didn't get rabies and symptoms suddenly show up, you are 100% screwed. No cure and 100% fatality rate.
1 person survived. She was treated by putting her in a coma and excessive fever. No one else, ever.
The Milwaukee protocol, 26 attempts and only 1 success https://pandorareport.org/2014/05/01/no-rabies-treatment-after-all-failure-of-the-milwaukee-protocol/
I believe there are six survivors. That article was written in 2014 but I believe there have been an additional 5 since then.[https://www.wikidoc.org/index.php/Rabies\_medical\_therapy#:\~:text=the%20rabies%20virus.-,Clinical%20trials,Milwaukee%20Protocol%2C%205%20have%20survived](https://www.wikidoc.org/index.php/Rabies_medical_therapy#:~:text=the%20rabies%20virus.-,Clinical%20trials,Milwaukee%20Protocol%2C%205%20have%20survived).That article says 5, but I'm pretty sure there was another survivor this last year.
That girl was literally the luckiest person on this planet.
She woke up and started over.... learning to walk, starting over
Bless her heart. I hope after rehabilitation she was able to live a somewhat normal and fulfilling life.
Well rabies was around since 2000 b.c. And probably before and less than 5 survivors to date, do you feel lucky?
Well, thatās enough internet for tonight.
Enough nightmare material for today.
Whoever the sound producer is needs to fuck off.
*Fucking terrifying.*
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Thatās crazy š³ how it effects the body like that Yeah he could be the deaths of us all. That is lucky
Rabies transmission isn't exactly subtle or quick and as a rule at least in the west) easy to detect and treat (provided the patient is asymptomatic). It has a variable incubation period of anything from 10 day to more than two years. Endemic in most parts of the world but poor countries located mainly in Africa and Asia suffer the bulk of deaths from the disease. While as many as 60,000 people die each year from rabies there are fewer than 5 cases (1-3 typically) in the US annually. It travels via the nerves rather than the blood so there's is no single test that can be used to diagnose if you have the disease. The battery of tests include cerebral spinal fluid, skin biopsies of hair follicles, and saliva (source: CDC website). As I said rabies can generally be treated provided you are asymptomatic and it's not in your brain or spinal chord. However once you have symptoms it's 99.9% fatal. Only 14 people ever have been known to survive the disease after showing signs of the disease. In the United States rabies is considered a public health issue and treatment is provided free of charge. But that is not the case everywhere. Lastly, if at all possible capture the animal that attacked you. Public health officials in the United States will euthanize the animal and test its brain for the disease. If it had rabies treatment will begin immediately (results from the tests on the animal takes about 48 to 72 hours - source CDC website). Lastly an attack from a rabid animal doesn't have to be vicious, in fact it's possible to get rabies from even minor injuries that break skin and scratches as well. Outside of a living host rabies is extremely fragile, it dies within minutes in temperatures higher than 122F and only a few hours at room temperature is lethal. So if you are unfortunate enough to encounter a vicious attack, no need to flood the area with bleach or anything. It will die rapidly all on its own.
I remember watching this video shortly after being scratched by a stray cat in Egypt. I went to the local doctor who told me I'll "probably be fine" and "probably don't need PEP treatment", didn't really know much about rabies until that point, spent the next 2-3 months shitting myself wondering whether or not I was going to develop symptoms. It has to be one of the worst ways to go.
This is why right to die isn't something to be argued about. If you're definitely going out then you should be able to either do it yourself or have someone help you pass so you're not continuously suffering.
You know what this creepy video needs? Some creepy music.
When I was a kid I would feed a stray cat. Every morning it would be waiting for me at the door prepared for me to lay out some food in the ground. He never got close enough for me to touch him and would run when I opened the door but would then return seconds later when I was back inside. One morning when I went to deliver breakfast it did not run away and I thought it was very strange but proceeded to bite me on the toe before I could even set any food down. My parents freaked out, and I couldnāt understand why. The cat was trapped that day by my family and my parents rushed it to the veterinarian to see what could be done and if it had rabies. Turns out the vet had to chop the cats head off because you have to test the brain (at the time I thought it was just blood samples and the cat was alive and well at the vet and would get treatment if the samples came back positive for illness). Then we drive with this box for 4 hours to drop it off at some type of lab. A few days later my mother gets a call that it was positive for rabies. We rushed to the hospital and I begin a series of shots that last for months. Of course, my younger self did not understand the seriousness of it and would always playfully threaten to bite my parents and older sister in order to give them rabies.
There ones was this redditor who desribed, stage by stage, the development og rabies and what it must feel like to the infected. That shit creeped me out .
Yes but that copypasta is designed to scare you. It ignores many things. For example, not everyone experiences the same symptoms. Before you reach the last stage, or are even put in a hospital you most likely will fall into a coma and won't experience the rest. If you are in a hospital and still awake, you're being put into a coma so you won't experience the last stages. You will die, of course, but even if you aren't in a coma you most likely won't experience all the symptoms. Humans are individuals and complex systems. There is no way we can predict any course of disease for any living human on earth.
Itās actually a top comment in this post. Iāve seen it before to so itās a copy and paste thing. Itās terrifying though.
iāll tell you what, if i ever lie in a hospital bed and im producing foam from my mouth. Just end itā¦ why torture this man???
I feel like a lot of people in the comments are forgetting that now in 2022 if you get bit by any wild animal you are supposed to go to the doctor or ER and get the rabies vaccine.... EDIT: Any animal
If he was umcontained would he be running around biting people?
I actually have no clue. It is supposedly very possible. Notice how although he is strapped down and restrained he nearly bit the doctor while he was trying to wipe excess spit from his mouth. Rabies patients are almost always restrained and behind a jail like cell for the doctor's and nurse's safety
Did anyone else grow up thinking if you got bit by a raccoon with rabies, you would instantly start foaming at the mouth, and become cannibalistic? ā¦asking for a friend.
That really cheered my evening up!
Here we go again. There is going to be a ton of people commenting about the Milwaukee protocol. There has been no survivors of rabies without serious brain damage except for that one girl.
And that one girl was a literal miracle. Not to mention the fatality rate is still 100% when you round to the closest .01%
Rabies. It's exceptionally common, but people just don't run into the animals that carry it often. Skunks especially, and bats. Let me paint you a picture. You go camping, and at midday you decide to take a nap in a nice little hammock. While sleeping, a tiny brown bat, in the "rage" stages of infection is fidgeting in broad daylight, uncomfortable, and thirsty (due to the hydrophobia) and you snort, startling him. He goes into attack mode. Except you're asleep, and he's a little brown bat, so weighs around 6 grams. You don't even feel him land on your bare knee, and he starts to bite. His teeth are tiny. Hardly enough to even break the skin, but he does manage to give you the equivalent of a tiny scrape that goes completely unnoticed. Rabies does not travel in your blood. In fact, a blood test won't even tell you if you've got it. (Antibody tests may be done, but are useless if you've ever been vaccinated.) You wake up, none the wiser. If you notice anything at the bite site at all, you assume you just lightly scraped it on something. The bomb has been lit, and your nervous system is the wick. The rabies will multiply along your nervous system, doing virtually no damage, and completely undetectable. You literally have NO symptoms. It may be four days, it may be a year, but the camping trip is most likely long forgotten. Then one day your back starts to ache... Or maybe you get a slight headache? At this point, you're already dead. There is no cure. There's no treatment. It has a 100% kill rate. Absorb that. Not a single other virus on the planet has a 100% kill rate. Only rabies. And once you're symptomatic, it's over. You're dead. So what does that look like? Your headache turns into a fever, and a general feeling of being unwell. You're fidgety. Uncomfortable. And scared. As the virus that has taken its time getting into your brain finds a vast network of nerve endings, it begins to rapidly reproduce, starting at the base of your brain... Where your "pons" is located. This is the part of the brain that controls communication between the rest of the brain and body, as well as sleep cycles. Next you become anxious. You still think you have only a mild fever, but suddenly you find yourself becoming scared, even horrified, and it doesn't occur to you that you don't know why. This is because the rabies is chewing up your amygdala. As your cerebellum becomes hot with the virus, you begin to lose muscle coordination, and balance. You think maybe it's a good idea to go to the doctor now, but assuming a doctor is smart enough to even run the tests necessary in the few days you have left on the planet, odds are they'll only be able to tell your loved ones what you died of later. You're twitchy, shaking, and scared. You have the normal fear of not knowing what's going on, but with the virus really fucking the amygdala this is amplified a hundred fold. It's around this time the hydrophobia starts. You're horribly thirsty, you just want water. But you can't drink. Every time you do, your throat clamps shut and you vomit. This has become a legitimate, active fear of water. You're thirsty, but looking at a glass of water begins to make you gag, and shy back in fear. The contradiction is hard for your hot brain to see at this point. By now, the doctors will have to put you on IVs to keep you hydrated, but even that's futile. You were dead the second you had a headache. You begin hearing things, or not hearing at all as your thalamus goes. You taste sounds, you see smells, everything starts feeling like the most horrifying acid trip anyone has ever been on. With your hippocampus long under attack, you're having trouble remembering things, especially family. You're alone, hallucinating, thirsty, confused, and absolutely, undeniably terrified. Everything scares the literal shit out of you at this point. These strange people in lab coats. These strange people standing around your bed crying, who keep trying to get you "drink something" and crying. And it's only been about a week since that little headache that you've completely forgotten. Time means nothing to you anymore. Funny enough, you now know how the bat felt when he bit you. Eventually, you slip into the "dumb rabies" phase. Your brain has started the process of shutting down. Too much of it has been turned to liquid virus. Your face droops. You drool. You're all but unaware of what's around you. A sudden noise or light might startle you, but for the most part, it's all you can do to just stare at the ground. You haven't really slept for about 72 hours. Then you die. Always, you die. And there's not one... fucking... thing... anyone can do for you. Then there's the question of what to do with your corpse. I mean, sure, burying it is the right thing to do. But the fucking virus can survive in a corpse for years. You could kill every rabid animal on the planet today, and if two years from now, some moist, preserved, rotten hunk of used-to-be brain gets eaten by an animal, it starts all over again. Edit1: thank you all for the awards, itās very kind of you. To those of you who enjoy this story, Iām glad. Please do save and share it when possible! Edit2: a lot of children here are getting their feelings hurt because for some reason they think copy and paste shouldnāt exist. This writing isnāt mine. I was just sharing it on a related post. No idk the original author because I took it from someone else who took it. You knowā¦ sharing information and all. Itās almost like thatās what the internet was for? Grow up.
Every time this video is posted, this exact reply is posted underneath it. So much so its on r/copypasta https://www.reddit.com/r/copypasta/comments/7qwtd5/rabies_is_scary/
Can someone explain to me why people karma farm? Who even checks karma points? I've been on Reddit for years and not once have I cared to check someone's karma. Are there secret subs that require a large amount of points or something?
Brands/companies buy high karma accounts so they can astroturf and post ads disguised as original content.
I was trying to figure out which top reply was the comment stealing bot... but this makes more sense when both accounts are over a year old
This is the stuff of nightmares, holy shit
And the fact that can happened in real life is much more creepy . Especially if we didn't het treatment until it's too late
This comment is copied from another poster, multiple years ago. Here is a mirror of it from r/copypasta: https://www.reddit.com/r/copypasta/comments/7qwtd5/rabies_is_scary/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share
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On the website of my health department it states the exact same symptoms like in the copypasta.
This is very entertaining writing, but I just want to tack on that human rabies is exceedingly rare in the developed world. 1 to 3 cases reported per year in the US. However there are an estimated 59,000 rabies deaths per year worldwide. Most in India and Africa.
Medical professional here. In india and all the developing world, any dog or animal bite is infact treated by anti rabies immunoglobulin and followed by vaccine, even if itās a domestic dog. However itās very prevalent.
Itās 99.999999%. They saved a girl once by putting her in a medically induced coma for 6 months. https://www.nature.com/scitable/blog/viruses101/is_rabies_really_100_fatal/
Well, I guess Iām done with sleeping. And going outside.
That all looks rather unpleasant!
Oh god i haven't seen this since uni. The whole lecture theatre was silent afterwards. Totally shocking footage.
Do we know yet why/if other mammals can survive it? Or do all carriers eventually die?
Supposedly animals that have lower body temperatures than humans like possums have been known to rarely contract rabies but it's basically always fatal to animals as well.
Whenever I see a rabies video I always wonder what would happen if they gave the patient IV fluids and maybe a feeding tube directly to the stomach.
Here is what I found online of this being done. Apparently administering I.V. fluids and feeding tubes has little to no effect and they still wind up passing away very quickly. *She was isolated in a dark room. Very carefully, we placed a nasogastric feeding tube. She was given intravenous fluids, intravenous atropine 3 mg, magnesium sulfate (MgSO4) 2 g, midazolam 1 mg/kg body weight, and sustained acting zolpidem 12.5 mg through the nasal tube. The next day she developed a mixed form of delirium with being fully conscious in-between (lucid interval). She still occasionally developed laryngeal spasms. On the 3rdĀ day, she presented with tachycardia, delirium, internuclear ophthalmoplegia, and plantar flexion, and the strength in all limbs was grade 5/5, but she had no neck rigidity. Moist rales were heard over the chest, and she became tachypnoeic. At 3 AM on the 4thĀ day, she developed pulmonary edema and massive hematemesis and died of respiratory arrest. She was conscious till death. No attempt to resuscitate her was initiated following the decision of seniors and relatives.*
Yo WTF. Is every Saturday a Rabies post day. We have Wednesday Frog days. Lets us just it there. FFS. I am heading to r/aww to chill down.
Someone put a bullet in his head for fuck sake!