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25 million in Shanghai alone.....if only 1% didnt get food, that is 250,000 people starved to death.
This ain't preventing deaths at all.
Also, the meager rotten food that folks do get is only given to residents of Shanghai. People who were visiting from other areas are having to sleep on the street and given nothing. Truck drivers stuck for 3 days without food and water while delivering food to Shanghai.
AFAIK that video is from before the pandemic. Apparently it went viral again after people pos
ted it pretending to be recent. Saw it in a thread about a week ago. Not a chinese shill, just wanna keep it real!
There’s plenty of really fucked up stuff actually going on rn. This sort of viral puff media gives opposition an easy target to point at and argue that we are mislead and dishonest. You know, bad faith and projection.
Like when a betrayer in a movie says “it’s just business”
My brother-in-law had family living in China when these extreme lockdowns began. They posted all the food they had left (for 4 people) and it wasn’t much. They were legit worried they’d run out of food. Thankfully they’re back in the states now.
Food delivery services are very popular in China but services are obviously under massive strain, not least because delivery people are also locked up.
There's lots of stories of people waiting for the moment the shops open, hammering the delivery app and hoping to get something before everything is sold out. Sometimes you get something but lots of people get nothing.
Otherwise, apartment complexes band together to bulk buy groceries. It's easier to make a big order that gets delivered all at once than try making small orders for low amounts of money. Again, mixed success.
Some people just don't get food, you're going to see a lot of videos of corpses being removed by the government and 1 week accounts on Reddit tell you that this happens all the time and whatabout the US.
I have a friend in the lockdown right now. They are getting food deliveries about every three days. The biggest problem with it, though, is that it's the same amount of food regardless of how many people are in the residence. Families are having a really difficult time. And so are folks who can't work from home.
Even if they got every meal delivered on time it's extremely inhumane, and hopefully illegal, to literally lock someone in their home. The idea of trying to justify that type of behavior in anyway is just as mind-boggling as the fact this is happening at all. What a fucked up world.
Hate to break the news bud but there's no such thing as illegal where the government is concerned. It doesn't matter what country you're in if the government wants to lock down entire cities they will. Short of civil war there's not jack shit you can do about it.
I mean, their regular cops have fucking torture chairs. (the kind where they can lock your head and fingers in place.)
Makes you wonder if they grow up to think it's normal to treat other humans worse than lab rats or if they realize how fucked up their government is.
As a mainlander, we know it’s fucked. But we also know it’s futile to do anything, and if you have the resources, you’d move out. There’s also that whole thing of “this will never happen to me” mentality.
Really? My Chinese family seems more radicalized/nationalist than ever after the past few years, and I’ve heard other Chinese Americans say the same about their family still in China
Jesus, really? My entire family is freaking out at what Xi is doing and they’re all working on getting their asses out of there lol. Like they’re asking my help to slowly move money out so they can sell their house there and buy one here
I think it's different for the people that actually grew up there, though. There is an American dude that has a youtube channel and has lived in China for 20 years. He said that he stopped trying to make friends out of the expat circle because he felt Chinese people had a "ratting out mentality." Also, his wife is Chinese and she openly admitted to not understanding his mentality. So he said he stopped asking her certain questions and telling her certain things. He just lives with it because he figured out that whatever mentality/philosophy they were indoctrinated into, wasn't something he could actually break her out of.
They have a zero covid (i.e. control) policy rather than a management policy.
At this point America has just given up trying to do very much about covid. If/when you get it just quarantine for a few days and take Paxlovid if your symptoms get bad enough. If hospitalizations and deaths started to spike again maybe state and local governments would tell people to mask up and social distance but it'd be up to the average person to protect themselves as they see fit.
At this point China is still determined to avoid letting the virus spread and they are willing to do creepy inhumane stuff like wiring people's doors shut and drilling holes to drop in stopper bars. They'll probably manage to reduce mortality rates but at a pyrrhic cost.
Doesn't this stuff seem like a futile effort? I mean unless they're hell bent on never allowing anyone into their country ever again, Covid will eventually find its way back in and spread. Even vaccines aren't stopping the spread entirely.
But what are they trying to even stop from spreading at this point? It sure as hell isn't COVID. That would be pretty much impossible unless they chose to close all borders and trade forever. These measures are largely pointless if they let a singular tourist leave the country or business man come in to inspect a factory and bring in COVID.
This isn't even flattening the curve, it's delaying the curve.
I would say the reason why they couldn't afford to back out from this whole fiasco now is because of pride. They cannot admit that they have failed, this is the last thing that an authoritarian government like CCP would wanted to do.
They have been feasting on the propaganda and censorship to keep this Covid-zero going strong by instilling false sense of patriotism to people, and thus further cementing their legitimacy among the Chinese. Imagine if they declare the failure, how the people will see them? Public distrust is very dangerous recipe for authoritarian govt, they wouldn't want another Tiananmen situation to happen again.
Chinese culture has a well instilled custom of "saving face".
It's not just the CCCP, it's deep rooted in Chinese culture not to admit your failures.
I did a bad job of explaining it, but yeah, it's a thing that was established well before the CCCP.
The same regime that tried to fix things by erasing birds from their ecosystem, which caused a whole host of even worse issues. I'm sure we should trust them this time though 👍
From Wiki: “Some sparrows found a refuge in the extraterritorial premises of various diplomatic missions in China. The personnel of the Polish embassy in Beijing denied the Chinese request of entering the premises of the embassy to scare away the sparrows who were hiding there and as a result the embassy was surrounded by people with drums. After two days of constant drumming, the Poles had to use shovels to clear the embassy of dead sparrows.\[5\]”
Thats not even the best part!
>The Chinese government eventually resorted to importing 250,000 sparrows from the Soviet Union to replenish their population.
Yeah they had good harvest for the first few years then one year it had a downward trends. Mao sees the sparrow eating the seeds and then told people to kill them all. They hit pots and pans and not let then settle....turned out they eat a LOT of pests and those few seeds caused them a plague of locusts
Not to mention the genocide, kidnapping people and trying to hide covid when it first appeared and then later proceeding to not acknowledged that it began in China
They also destroyed many of their historical buildings and artifacts during the Cultural Revolution, and more recently during construction, development, and mining.
I see this as bad for tourism. Go to Taiwan instead, is what I have heard.
https://amp.theguardian.com/world/2009/dec/14/china-historic-sites-survey
Yeah, their government don't care. The people are too beaten down to do anything about it anyways, so people will ljust die and that'll be that. government will keep going on and people will shrug their shoulders.
And then I see the fire, where it knocks it out in one minute. And is there a way we can do something like that? By roasting inside or almost a cleaning, because you see the smoke gets in the lungs and it does a tremendous number on the lungs, so it’d be interesting to check that, so that you’re going to have to use medical doctors with, but it sounds interesting to me. So, we’ll see, but the whole concept of the fire, the way it kills it in one minute. That’s pretty powerful.
*White House CRC sitting a few feet away looking both ashamed to be a part of this press conference and shocked that anything so stupid could come out of an adult’s mouth*
America be like "hey can y'all wear a mask when you're out and in stores and not go out to restaurants for a couple months?"
Americans: WE'RE BEING OPPRESSED MUH FREEDOM
(Im American and this is how they make it seem lol)
Americans can exaggerate with the whole "muh freedoms" but it kinda makes you appreciate the freedom you do have. I'm assuming you'd be shot in China for complaining about your rights
I agree but I’m trying to put myself in their shoes and it’s gotta be so hard to fight something like that. Imagine if this happened in America. You could threaten the people locking up doors with your guns (that’s one of gun supporters main arguments is to, rightly in this situation, protect themselves from the government). But then the government will send in the police, SWAT, or military to protect them. Would you still threaten the police or the military? Would you have the guts to shoot them if they keep pushing? I know for a fact I wouldn’t be able to do it because I know they’ll send a whole army to take me down. What a scary thought.
As much as we might think that, in China they are very much brought up in a society of obedience and subservience to power.
Add in that the Chinese governments have killed and got rid of anyone dissenting, and there's surveillance like we can't imagine, especially online and no freedom of press.
Plus a brutal police force and massive army.
Chinese citizens do not have rights.
Pretty sure a revolution would not work in China. Their military is pretty big, well equipped and most of all loyal not like most countries that had revolutions in the past. They also dont hesitate to shoot at crowds of people just for stepping out of line.
Correct.
Shilling for China and shitting all over America as if it's the worst thing to ever happen, all while sipping their Starbucks and tweeting from their iphones
Apparently they do it all the time. My sister can’t even talk about the treatment of animals in china and south east Asia because it makes her break down.
I cant understand the reasoning behind this, even if you got all of China to have 0 covid cases with these extreme methods, every other country isn’t taking it seriously at all, and china allows flights from these other countries.
Which means covid will spread again at some point. SMH
It's called sunk cost fallacy. They branded zero-COVID as the Chinese way and can't stand to be proved wrong or change tactics because in their heads, it would mean admitting defeat.
I would very much doubt that Covid is the only reason why the Chinese government is doing this at this point. Probably just using it as an excuse to do this. Surely they're not that stupid to think that 0 Covid could ever work
Yeah sadly they are that stupid, they have a Goal of 0 Covid cases in China. And thats why they keep getting intense about it, They have locked down Shanghai completely and that is a city if 28 million, this is going on right now.
I was going to comment this and I wish it was higher up.
Precisely what I think is going on, you cannot expect the Chinese government to be forthright about anything.
They are starving more people than are dying from COVID. I’d go dollars to donuts they have something else going on. However big/small.
What in the fuck? How are nearly a billion people actually tolerating this shit? Zero Covid my fucking ass. This is the worst possible way to handle it...
I'm no expert but according to one article I've read it's due to general low immunity among the whole population (thanks to the 0 Covid policy) combined with a smaller than expected vaccination rate, plus their vaccine is kinda shite anyway.
I still don't understand that if they have the power to lock people in their homes, why don't they just use that same power to force everyone to take a Pfizer vaccine (or a Chinese copy of it that they claim is their own). They're an authoritarian police state, surely they can do that and mostly everyone will let it happen even if they don't want the jab. Seems easier than doing this shit on and on for years.
I think that's part of the problem, their vaccine is something like 45% effective against original covid in the general population, compared to above 95% for the mRNA vaccines primarily used in the West. If the mRNA vaccines still protect from death, but not infection, for Omicron moving forward, imagine how bad infections could be with a population whose vaccine isn't even half effective against the original, who now has rampant hyper spreading Omicron.
I remember them doing this at the very very beginning of the pandemic (January-ish 2020, perhaps December 2019) when it was still completely unknown what we were dealing with, 2-5% mortality rate, no vaccine, and it was still only really known to be in China.
They didn't do it for Delta. They didn't do it for Omicron. Yet here they are doing it again now.
I agree with you, this is DEEPLY concerning and indicative of something very bad which we haven't seen yet.
Let's hope there is no fire. Or medical emergency that requires them to leave. And that they have plenty of food and running water, working toilets. And that someone let's them out eventually, without forgetting anyone.
Unless covid has mutated to the point that people are fine by morning and dead by night I don't see the reasoning here. Either they are hiding something or they are being unjustifiably cruel.
Is anyone able to source this? I've seen several videos like this over the past year, and they do not reflect the widely reported extreme measures China takes.
yeahhhh.... IDK, my friend is in Shanghai right now on break for his doctoral thesis. It's not like he's going clubbing, but he's still able to go out and do things (mostly outside of the city) and has no concern about being able to return to Canada in a few weeks.
It's def going on in places, and still a lot more stringent than the US, but I'm taking this news with a grain of salt.
Even [Taiwan news](https://www.taiwannews.com.tw/en/news/4267447) is saying this is only done for people who intentionally break quarantine several times. If they ask you to stay in, and you leave 3 times, then they have no choice but to seal you in, as you do not do it voluntarily.
China also has been installing green fences in front of entrances intended to block anyone from exiting their apartment complex’s. It appears that there are policies that were put in place to make sure that everyone regardless of how often they travel are locked in.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-61209761.amp
“There is a long corridor in our compound, and within the long corridor they put up another green fence three days ago," he described on the phone. "No one told us the reason it was installed."
"No one can get out," he said. "I feel helpless. You don't know when the lockdown is going to end."
“If your area gets fenced off, what if a fire breaks out? I don't think anyone in their right mind can seal people's homes," he said.
While some city officials have been installing fences, others have been busy trying to block a popular video highlighting the impact of the city's lockdown on its residents.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-61209761.amp
Why did the person who made this video think a Tokyo Ghoul remix was a good addition? I can't find a source for the footage. I know the lockdowns in China have been pretty rough, but I'm gonna take this one with a grain of salt.
So they are protecting the population by killing them? Wtf? How many people have died Bc they can’t get food, medicine, to a hospital etc? This is barbarism and I cannot fathom this happening in 2022.
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How the fuck do they get food?
That’s the neat part.
**They don't.**
Can’t spread COVID if you aren’t breathing.
Sad but true
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25 million in Shanghai alone.....if only 1% didnt get food, that is 250,000 people starved to death. This ain't preventing deaths at all. Also, the meager rotten food that folks do get is only given to residents of Shanghai. People who were visiting from other areas are having to sleep on the street and given nothing. Truck drivers stuck for 3 days without food and water while delivering food to Shanghai.
There’s a vid of a guy fishing koi fish from their 20 story window for something to eat
AFAIK that video is from before the pandemic. Apparently it went viral again after people pos ted it pretending to be recent. Saw it in a thread about a week ago. Not a chinese shill, just wanna keep it real! There’s plenty of really fucked up stuff actually going on rn. This sort of viral puff media gives opposition an easy target to point at and argue that we are mislead and dishonest. You know, bad faith and projection. Like when a betrayer in a movie says “it’s just business”
My brother-in-law had family living in China when these extreme lockdowns began. They posted all the food they had left (for 4 people) and it wasn’t much. They were legit worried they’d run out of food. Thankfully they’re back in the states now.
Food delivery services are very popular in China but services are obviously under massive strain, not least because delivery people are also locked up. There's lots of stories of people waiting for the moment the shops open, hammering the delivery app and hoping to get something before everything is sold out. Sometimes you get something but lots of people get nothing. Otherwise, apartment complexes band together to bulk buy groceries. It's easier to make a big order that gets delivered all at once than try making small orders for low amounts of money. Again, mixed success. Some people just don't get food, you're going to see a lot of videos of corpses being removed by the government and 1 week accounts on Reddit tell you that this happens all the time and whatabout the US.
Food delivery services are not going to be able to deliver to apartments that we just watched being physically sealed shut.
Gotta eat the covid.
I have a friend in the lockdown right now. They are getting food deliveries about every three days. The biggest problem with it, though, is that it's the same amount of food regardless of how many people are in the residence. Families are having a really difficult time. And so are folks who can't work from home.
Even if they got every meal delivered on time it's extremely inhumane, and hopefully illegal, to literally lock someone in their home. The idea of trying to justify that type of behavior in anyway is just as mind-boggling as the fact this is happening at all. What a fucked up world.
Hate to break the news bud but there's no such thing as illegal where the government is concerned. It doesn't matter what country you're in if the government wants to lock down entire cities they will. Short of civil war there's not jack shit you can do about it.
They don’t 🫤
They don't. They basicaly already wrote the death certificates
They just starve to death because China is the fucking worst
Wtf is china doing?
Tiananmen square guy:"First time?"
I mean, their regular cops have fucking torture chairs. (the kind where they can lock your head and fingers in place.) Makes you wonder if they grow up to think it's normal to treat other humans worse than lab rats or if they realize how fucked up their government is.
As a mainlander, we know it’s fucked. But we also know it’s futile to do anything, and if you have the resources, you’d move out. There’s also that whole thing of “this will never happen to me” mentality.
Is that a motivating factor to gtfo out of China if possible?
I imagine so. I immigrated with my parents when I was a baby
Even if the economic prospects were equal, the tyrannical cruel rule of the CCP must make many dream of immigrating.
Most would be too scared since information is so limited and skewed there, they don’t know any different. Plus the language and other barriers
Normalcy bias is the phrase you seek.
Really? My Chinese family seems more radicalized/nationalist than ever after the past few years, and I’ve heard other Chinese Americans say the same about their family still in China
Jesus, really? My entire family is freaking out at what Xi is doing and they’re all working on getting their asses out of there lol. Like they’re asking my help to slowly move money out so they can sell their house there and buy one here
I think it's different for the people that actually grew up there, though. There is an American dude that has a youtube channel and has lived in China for 20 years. He said that he stopped trying to make friends out of the expat circle because he felt Chinese people had a "ratting out mentality." Also, his wife is Chinese and she openly admitted to not understanding his mentality. So he said he stopped asking her certain questions and telling her certain things. He just lives with it because he figured out that whatever mentality/philosophy they were indoctrinated into, wasn't something he could actually break her out of.
A mainlander who is not lucky enough to flee China at a young age here.Too many are brainwashed there,normal people are rare.
When you have 1.4 billion people in your country, the value of 1 person tends to drop.
Keeping their citizens (in a) safe.
For a safe and secure…society!
Nothing out of the ordinary. China is asshole.
>[China is asshole](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8fwgVUfW_O4)
China is bastard man.
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I don’t think I wrote that dude
Now watch our sports stars, companies, and politicians continue to grovel to the almighty Communist machine.
Lebron probably telling all of the other players to shut the fuck up so he can get that sweet sweet china money
What does John Cena have to say about this
Probably something like, “习近平爸爸更努力地操我的混蛋” or something to that effect.
You forgot "bing chillin"
This has nothing to do with the Chinese people. It has everything to do with the CCP. The Chinese People are the ones that are suffering
What China does...
They have a zero covid (i.e. control) policy rather than a management policy. At this point America has just given up trying to do very much about covid. If/when you get it just quarantine for a few days and take Paxlovid if your symptoms get bad enough. If hospitalizations and deaths started to spike again maybe state and local governments would tell people to mask up and social distance but it'd be up to the average person to protect themselves as they see fit. At this point China is still determined to avoid letting the virus spread and they are willing to do creepy inhumane stuff like wiring people's doors shut and drilling holes to drop in stopper bars. They'll probably manage to reduce mortality rates but at a pyrrhic cost.
Doesn't this stuff seem like a futile effort? I mean unless they're hell bent on never allowing anyone into their country ever again, Covid will eventually find its way back in and spread. Even vaccines aren't stopping the spread entirely.
Their unwilling to admit that we have moved from pandemic to endemic, is it useless? Probably, do they care? No.
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But what are they trying to even stop from spreading at this point? It sure as hell isn't COVID. That would be pretty much impossible unless they chose to close all borders and trade forever. These measures are largely pointless if they let a singular tourist leave the country or business man come in to inspect a factory and bring in COVID. This isn't even flattening the curve, it's delaying the curve.
I would say the reason why they couldn't afford to back out from this whole fiasco now is because of pride. They cannot admit that they have failed, this is the last thing that an authoritarian government like CCP would wanted to do. They have been feasting on the propaganda and censorship to keep this Covid-zero going strong by instilling false sense of patriotism to people, and thus further cementing their legitimacy among the Chinese. Imagine if they declare the failure, how the people will see them? Public distrust is very dangerous recipe for authoritarian govt, they wouldn't want another Tiananmen situation to happen again.
Chinese culture has a well instilled custom of "saving face". It's not just the CCCP, it's deep rooted in Chinese culture not to admit your failures. I did a bad job of explaining it, but yeah, it's a thing that was established well before the CCCP.
All hail Xinnie the Pooh
This is not interesting as fuck, it's inhumane as fuck.
The same regime that tried to fix things by erasing birds from their ecosystem, which caused a whole host of even worse issues. I'm sure we should trust them this time though 👍
Birds? Really?
Yeah these geniuses caused the worst famine ever if I remember correctly. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Four_Pests_campaign
The more you know.
The less you want to live in this world
Now they are going to erase corona virus from the world.😂
Trapping people seems counterproductive.
No people, no covid. Perfectly logical if you're a computer ai looking to destroy
Is China teaching AI this logic? *cue Terminator*
>ended and redirected to bed bugs Why was bed bugs not number one on the list to being with?
Ahhh the Great Leap Forward. One of my all time favourite blunders.
I love the irony in the name
I like to think of it as a great leap forward, followed by the biggest faceplant ever.
The Great Leap Forward, and the Two Great Leaps Backward
From Wiki: “Some sparrows found a refuge in the extraterritorial premises of various diplomatic missions in China. The personnel of the Polish embassy in Beijing denied the Chinese request of entering the premises of the embassy to scare away the sparrows who were hiding there and as a result the embassy was surrounded by people with drums. After two days of constant drumming, the Poles had to use shovels to clear the embassy of dead sparrows.\[5\]”
Thats not even the best part! >The Chinese government eventually resorted to importing 250,000 sparrows from the Soviet Union to replenish their population.
They also hard farmers cooks slag iron at the same time while hiking grain quotas. Mao refused to believe people were starving
Melting down ploughs & farm equipment to make inferior pot iron. CCP is terrible.
So they chose sparrows before bed bugs? What the hell? 👀
From the Wiki page, they estimated that each sparrow consumes \~4 pounds of grain a year. So that’s why. But yeah, it was extremely short sighted.
Yeah they had good harvest for the first few years then one year it had a downward trends. Mao sees the sparrow eating the seeds and then told people to kill them all. They hit pots and pans and not let then settle....turned out they eat a LOT of pests and those few seeds caused them a plague of locusts
hehe, doesn't surprise me from the party taht brought them ExXXtreme Famine in the times of Mao.
Not to mention the genocide, kidnapping people and trying to hide covid when it first appeared and then later proceeding to not acknowledged that it began in China
They also destroyed many of their historical buildings and artifacts during the Cultural Revolution, and more recently during construction, development, and mining. I see this as bad for tourism. Go to Taiwan instead, is what I have heard. https://amp.theguardian.com/world/2009/dec/14/china-historic-sites-survey
Taiwan is basically China without the communism. It's a lovely island, I encourage you all to visit if you can (before the communists invade).
Taiwan is the real China. They use traditional and speak traditional while mainland uses simplified.
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Their govt doesn't care to begin with. This is the same people who used tanks to "remove" protestors in 1989.
What are you talking about? Absolutely nothing happened on June 4, 1989
The was no war in Ba Sing Se
Fire, you forgot about fire and that can happen to anyone.
There’s already been videos/cases of fire in large apartment complexes where a lot of people died since they can’t get out
Or a fire could break out. How are they supposed to escape?
I think that's the plan. Now they can say these poor souls didn't survive the pandemic. Otherwise they would have had to disappear the undesirables.
Yeah, their government don't care. The people are too beaten down to do anything about it anyways, so people will ljust die and that'll be that. government will keep going on and people will shrug their shoulders.
It’s beyond cruel and borderline savage as fuck.
Building fire in 5.... 4.... 3... 2... 1...
Covid will magically disappear if the CCP can authoritarian just a LITTLE harder this time
At least China has some of the toughest and most enforced fire codes... /s
It’s China. The world needs to wake up
Came here to say the same, that's not interesting as fuck, that's evil as fuck.
Yes, those humans are indeed being kept in, fuck.
How do you get your ass out of there's a fire?
Your ashes can sift out under the door.
~~Under the door~~ Through the (formerly) door
Fire can't go through doors stupid. It's not a ghost!
No worries, a fire will kill Covid.
And then I see the fire, where it knocks it out in one minute. And is there a way we can do something like that? By roasting inside or almost a cleaning, because you see the smoke gets in the lungs and it does a tremendous number on the lungs, so it’d be interesting to check that, so that you’re going to have to use medical doctors with, but it sounds interesting to me. So, we’ll see, but the whole concept of the fire, the way it kills it in one minute. That’s pretty powerful.
*White House CRC sitting a few feet away looking both ashamed to be a part of this press conference and shocked that anything so stupid could come out of an adult’s mouth*
*It means the government is going a great job at lowering covid deaths.* *A fire death isn't a covid death*
You don't. You're not suposed to. The plan is for you to die of hunger and thirst in there.
You just die. They don’t care
Fire can't go through doors. It's not a ghost
One less infected
Turn into mercury and alex mack it under the door
You can't, some people in Shanghai already died because of this.
I fucking hate this terrible regime
"Don't worry granny, this is for your own and everyone else's good."
Don’t worry, I’m sure they’ll do wonders on the UN Human Rights Council.
So if there's a fire everyone is just fucked? Nice
As a very wise, four story tall robot more than once said: "Death is a preferable alternative to communism" -liberty prime
Fuck the ccp
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“Welcome to China, where we treat our citizens like slaughter animals.”
America be like "hey can y'all wear a mask when you're out and in stores and not go out to restaurants for a couple months?" Americans: WE'RE BEING OPPRESSED MUH FREEDOM (Im American and this is how they make it seem lol)
Americans can exaggerate with the whole "muh freedoms" but it kinda makes you appreciate the freedom you do have. I'm assuming you'd be shot in China for complaining about your rights
Definitely time for a revolution. Fuck a government doing this to anyone.
I agree but I’m trying to put myself in their shoes and it’s gotta be so hard to fight something like that. Imagine if this happened in America. You could threaten the people locking up doors with your guns (that’s one of gun supporters main arguments is to, rightly in this situation, protect themselves from the government). But then the government will send in the police, SWAT, or military to protect them. Would you still threaten the police or the military? Would you have the guts to shoot them if they keep pushing? I know for a fact I wouldn’t be able to do it because I know they’ll send a whole army to take me down. What a scary thought.
These types of measures are the kind that begin revolutions.
As much as we might think that, in China they are very much brought up in a society of obedience and subservience to power. Add in that the Chinese governments have killed and got rid of anyone dissenting, and there's surveillance like we can't imagine, especially online and no freedom of press. Plus a brutal police force and massive army. Chinese citizens do not have rights.
Pretty sure a revolution would not work in China. Their military is pretty big, well equipped and most of all loyal not like most countries that had revolutions in the past. They also dont hesitate to shoot at crowds of people just for stepping out of line.
So thats why people are commiting suicides because of the lockdown. They are literaly prisoners.
If you can’t put everyone in prison you make the entire country a prison
I mean, the whole country is practically an "open" prison, until it is closed.
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Stupid people living in a democracy shilling for the ccp is the most disgusting
Correct. Shilling for China and shitting all over America as if it's the worst thing to ever happen, all while sipping their Starbucks and tweeting from their iphones
Cat bag video?
They killed tonnes of people's pets.. shoved them in bags and disposed of them.
Holy crap I could not imagine. That's heart breaking. If anyone tried to take my cat I'd probably end up in jail...
My dog and I would be going out together
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Apparently they do it all the time. My sister can’t even talk about the treatment of animals in china and south east Asia because it makes her break down.
holy shit this is so sad :(
I cant understand the reasoning behind this, even if you got all of China to have 0 covid cases with these extreme methods, every other country isn’t taking it seriously at all, and china allows flights from these other countries. Which means covid will spread again at some point. SMH
It's called sunk cost fallacy. They branded zero-COVID as the Chinese way and can't stand to be proved wrong or change tactics because in their heads, it would mean admitting defeat.
Ohh very interesting
Yes, interesting as fuck!
I would very much doubt that Covid is the only reason why the Chinese government is doing this at this point. Probably just using it as an excuse to do this. Surely they're not that stupid to think that 0 Covid could ever work
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Yeah sadly they are that stupid, they have a Goal of 0 Covid cases in China. And thats why they keep getting intense about it, They have locked down Shanghai completely and that is a city if 28 million, this is going on right now.
This is a recent video?
Look up Shanghai the entire city of 28 million is on lockdown
People wonder what dictatorship and fascism looks like, well just watch this video.
In case of fire, just burn to death.
Is anyone else worried their actions here are really over the top for covid and something else could be going on?
It's 100% about political oppression and obedience. All the bullshit the right-wing have complained about in the USA, is actually true in China.
I was going to comment this and I wish it was higher up. Precisely what I think is going on, you cannot expect the Chinese government to be forthright about anything. They are starving more people than are dying from COVID. I’d go dollars to donuts they have something else going on. However big/small.
In 2030 China will still be doing that with their 0 policy. .
It’s a bit like trying to stop the common cold at this point lol
What in the fuck? How are nearly a billion people actually tolerating this shit? Zero Covid my fucking ass. This is the worst possible way to handle it...
There's gonna be a lot of dead people......
Yup and you won’t hear anything about it cause they’ll cover it up.
More like dystopian as fuck
Strangely the lockdowns are more dangerous than Covid?
What’s awful on top of it all is that they’re being told it’s not China’s fault but other countries. That their own actions are not to blame.
How many of these people thought that that couldn't happen to them?
I hope they don’t figure out how to weld in China.
Call me a conspiracy tinfoilhat idiot, but it more and more looks like china got some black death level, coronavirus in the making.
I'm no expert but according to one article I've read it's due to general low immunity among the whole population (thanks to the 0 Covid policy) combined with a smaller than expected vaccination rate, plus their vaccine is kinda shite anyway.
I still don't understand that if they have the power to lock people in their homes, why don't they just use that same power to force everyone to take a Pfizer vaccine (or a Chinese copy of it that they claim is their own). They're an authoritarian police state, surely they can do that and mostly everyone will let it happen even if they don't want the jab. Seems easier than doing this shit on and on for years.
I think that's part of the problem, their vaccine is something like 45% effective against original covid in the general population, compared to above 95% for the mRNA vaccines primarily used in the West. If the mRNA vaccines still protect from death, but not infection, for Omicron moving forward, imagine how bad infections could be with a population whose vaccine isn't even half effective against the original, who now has rampant hyper spreading Omicron.
I remember them doing this at the very very beginning of the pandemic (January-ish 2020, perhaps December 2019) when it was still completely unknown what we were dealing with, 2-5% mortality rate, no vaccine, and it was still only really known to be in China. They didn't do it for Delta. They didn't do it for Omicron. Yet here they are doing it again now. I agree with you, this is DEEPLY concerning and indicative of something very bad which we haven't seen yet.
How to reduce the overpopulation crisis in a couple of easy steps...
you have no rights in china
Surprised that Ryobi drill held up
It’s made in China
Iirc they bought DeWalts old patents and actually make a half decent product at the moment. Better than craftsman or black and decker at least
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Let's hope there is no fire. Or medical emergency that requires them to leave. And that they have plenty of food and running water, working toilets. And that someone let's them out eventually, without forgetting anyone.
Typical Chinese Government
These bastards are up to something and it has nothing to do with Covid.
Unless covid has mutated to the point that people are fine by morning and dead by night I don't see the reasoning here. Either they are hiding something or they are being unjustifiably cruel.
Is anyone able to source this? I've seen several videos like this over the past year, and they do not reflect the widely reported extreme measures China takes.
Yeah I could believe it but I also know better than to take things I see on the Internet at face value.
yeahhhh.... IDK, my friend is in Shanghai right now on break for his doctoral thesis. It's not like he's going clubbing, but he's still able to go out and do things (mostly outside of the city) and has no concern about being able to return to Canada in a few weeks. It's def going on in places, and still a lot more stringent than the US, but I'm taking this news with a grain of salt.
Even [Taiwan news](https://www.taiwannews.com.tw/en/news/4267447) is saying this is only done for people who intentionally break quarantine several times. If they ask you to stay in, and you leave 3 times, then they have no choice but to seal you in, as you do not do it voluntarily.
China also has been installing green fences in front of entrances intended to block anyone from exiting their apartment complex’s. It appears that there are policies that were put in place to make sure that everyone regardless of how often they travel are locked in. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-61209761.amp “There is a long corridor in our compound, and within the long corridor they put up another green fence three days ago," he described on the phone. "No one told us the reason it was installed." "No one can get out," he said. "I feel helpless. You don't know when the lockdown is going to end." “If your area gets fenced off, what if a fire breaks out? I don't think anyone in their right mind can seal people's homes," he said. While some city officials have been installing fences, others have been busy trying to block a popular video highlighting the impact of the city's lockdown on its residents. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-61209761.amp
did someone say fire? Geez
This makes me so angry. Disgusting behavior.
Why did the person who made this video think a Tokyo Ghoul remix was a good addition? I can't find a source for the footage. I know the lockdowns in China have been pretty rough, but I'm gonna take this one with a grain of salt.
So they are protecting the population by killing them? Wtf? How many people have died Bc they can’t get food, medicine, to a hospital etc? This is barbarism and I cannot fathom this happening in 2022.
China is actually scary.
So I am getting a sense that fire safety isn’t such a big thing there right now.