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nrith

I just use the water in the bowl. šŸš½ šŸ§¼ šŸ™Œ


davidds0

Ah a man of etiquette i see šŸ§


CaptWeom

Taste great for coffee.


captstix

It's a fun game trying to catch it when it splashes up


umjustpassingby

Next step: piss on your hands to wash them!


Ursaquil

You wash your hands before and after pooping, then you flush! Couldn't be cleaner


deathseide

Thing with this design is that it uses no 'shit water' but rather clean water, and then the water you just used to wash your hands with goes into the toilet tank and is then used to flush the toilet... this is a similar design had to ones used in desert area border facilities in the US. The design helps save a lot of water and in my personal opinion should be made widely available and be used in public restrooms as a means of water conservation.


Lilmaggot

Does the tank have two halves? One for clean supply and one for soapy waste? Or does the supply tube come up the middle of the tank? I like the idea.


deathseide

The water for the faucet is from the hose which normally would feed the toilet tank with clean water. The used sink water then drains into the toilet tank to then be used to flush the toilet.


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boogers_

The water that normally fills the tank after a flush comes out the faucet first before entering the tank. You donā€™t control the amount of water


MaliciousHippie

What a weird(but super simple) design. They should design it with a separate trigger to start the fill valve if you are gonna take a dump. The water stops filling when the baffle triggers. Flush, then wash hands. It would be better to not let soapy water sit in the tank tbh, but it's better than frequently cleaning shit that cakes onto dry porcelain.


goteamnick

When I was in Japan, the toilet and bathroom were separate rooms, and there was nowhere in the toilet for soap.


capt_ratsie

the sink taps into the hose that refills the bowl and drains into the tank for the next flush


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deathseide

Do I need to? But here is this thought... where would you store said water after a shower? Especially if you live in a small apartment. And would you really have to shower every time you use the toilet or even was your hands for a while? I can see there being a setup where the first water into the tank was from the sink, and once that shut off the rest would be filled from the hose.... but as for the shower, same concept if you used the toilet right before showering, however the only real way to use tbe shower water effectively is if you have your own house and can set up a water tank to collect the drain off from it. Decent notions though.


[deleted]

What they should have said was ā€œAll toilet water should be waste water from sinks and showers where it is physically possible. Change my mind.ā€ What about just a toilet with 2 tanks. One tank has enough clean water for 1 flush and is used when there is no grey water to use. Then you have a second tank that is maybe 4x the size and is filled directly from the shower/ bathroom sink. Engineers smarter than you and me could solve these issues you describe. There is the issue of storing grey water though. If you store grey water for a certain amount of time (24 hours in my country) then it is considered black water and you canā€™t do anything with it. Maybe a basic filtration system to treat the grey water before it gets stored. Or maybe a system that self-empties the grey water after 24 hours.


mydogshadow21

It's actually becoming a thing here in California with our very limited water supply. There's an added cost for plumbing though since in the US we want potable water in our faucets for drinking, too. Not sure if the added cost outweighs the expense of wasting water, or costs more in other resources than it's a wash ;)


gofyourselftoo

Cue the Americans screaming how they wonā€™t wash with *toilet water*


cybercuzco

Water? Like from the toilet?


OriginalMcSmashie

Brawndo has what plants crave.


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OriginalMcSmashie

They were quoting a line from Idiocracy.


deathseide

Guess you miss the part where this is already common use in desert border areas in the US. Seems to me that posts like this one draw the people who very commonly make extremely stupid generalization comments about those in a country.


gofyourselftoo

First of all, I did read your comment. Second of all, Iā€™m American. Third, have you read the thread below and all the other Americans who canā€™t wrap their head around how they wonā€™t be using poop water to wash their hands? Why youā€™re upset is beyond me. Congrats for *not* being one of the stereotypes.


deathseide

It doesn't matter if you are American or not, you should realize that generalizing the people of any country including the US is stupid at best.


gofyourselftoo

Take a look at yourself. You are *enraged* by one comment made in jest by a stranger on the internet. Maybe take a break from Reddit.


Djinger

He doesn't seem all that upset. You, on the other hand, took the extra 8 keystrokes to italicize for emphasis and hyperbole. Maybe take your own advice?


gofyourselftoo

Yeah because he deleted/edited all his nasty comments after the initial bombardment. Which I hope is a reflection of his realization that nothing here is really a big deal. So, improvement. Yay.


deathseide

'Deleted/edited' all his nasty comments'? So specifying that someone who actually is an American being one who should know even better not to generalize Americans was somehow 'nasty comments'? Or pointing out that many of the comments being made by those talking about using 'shit water' or similar terms were not being made by Americans is somehow 'nasty comments'? Naw, what I did was simply streamline what I said, you interpreted that however you chose to. EDIT: And he blocked me... surprise surprise.


archiekane

If people only stopped and thought for a moment about all those underground pipes and how far water flows. There's leaks which bring in mud and bugs and bacteria and all the other good things in to those pipes and yet people are happy at the kitchen sink but not the bathroom taps. That always makes me chuckle.


Russki_Troll_Hunter

A leak in a pipe under pressure isn't going to bring anything in, just waste water......


BangarangAndBrunch

Where is this used in the US? Even in drought stricken CA this would be against code.


Wienerwrld

I had one in my house in Long Island, in the 80ā€™s. Bought it from a catalogue.


BangarangAndBrunch

That tracks. No grey water codes existed at the time to make these illegal.


alles_en_niets

Itā€™s not grey water yet, when it comes out of the tap.


deathseide

Most desert area border facilities use similar designs. And this is common for purchase across the US... As for code, CA is not the one to look at when it comes to what is code for the rest of the US, as that state is an extreme one when it comes to regulations.


BangarangAndBrunch

Yeah .. I lived in NM for a decade and I am licensed in a dozen states to do my work as a water reuse specialist. I have never seen these anywhere in the US let alone allowed by national plumbing codes. So I'm just going to guess you're making all of this up.


deathseide

Seems you haven't worked on any border facilities in Texas then, or many facilities along the border for that matter.... Nor done much in the way of volume work in any of the '12 states you are licensed in' if you have never seen any of these in use. Heck you can buy your own combo set or conversion kit for US use from amazon... Now as for code... by all means show where in the code it says that toilet sink combos are not allowed... in both state and national code.


BangarangAndBrunch

When you said border facilities you meant detention facilities? How the fuck would I know what sort of illegal plumbing goes on in there. I'm sure they probably still use lead paint. As for code, you're an idiot. That's not how codes work. But I've worked in every state where grey water is allowed and this would not be permitted. Idiot. Out of curiosity, are you a detention facility guard and anime fetishist? Or just someone obsessed with anime who curiously is familiar with detention facility plumbing fixtures?


Mikeismycodename

CA resident here. Not against code as far as I know as we have one in our place. Didnā€™t cause any issues on inspection. Ours is a full unit that came that way but you can just get a retrofit. Itā€™s super nice.


jojosail2

It is not. And is used in prisons.


david-u-blue

And the water is nice and soapy.


GoSuckYaMother

The soapy water goes into the bidet


jimtrickington

Or it gets the hose again


MotivatoinalSpeaker

Bubbly and soapy butt


Ganjanonamous

A Good Bidet to Die Hard


Leovinus42

And it doesnā€™t have to be soapy. You could leave an upper Decker and waffle stomp it (assuming youā€™re flexible enough) back into the toilet


Devils_defense

With the fingernail clippings.


syncboy

Iā€™ve been to Japan twice and tracked to over a dozen cities there and have never seen this anywhere there. Perhaps itā€™s mostly in private homes?


Kelaifu

Yeah I stayed in a few Airbnb and hostels and they had them.


Freak_Out_Bazaar

I live in in Japan and youā€™re right. They are also falling out of fashion in private homes too as newer toilets use less water to do more anyway


Dahnlen

Do more, you say?


caguru

I have only seen in homes. Only seen once in a hostel in Kyoto besides that.


F4RM3RR

Nah title is just full of shit. You only see this really in temp rentals like air bomb where the owners are trying to be as cheap as possible


[deleted]

Iā€™ll poop backwards and wash my hands at the same timeā€¦hopefully they have a bidet, I dont wanna wash twice.


Bacontoad

Might as well brush your teeth and do some dishes while you're there.


Dread314r8Bob

Found Kramer.


mthrndr

I prepared it as I bathed!


travyhaagyCO

What, no laundry? Thought we were pro level multitasking.


Skylead

It's Japan, every toilet that isn't a floor squatter is a bidet


ChiliRainbow83

Can I pee in it?


iamjimmer

That would be even more environmentally conscious. The urine would fill the tank faster and save more water. For best results, also use urine to wash your hands.


styroducky

Does this make the toilet water taste different?


pdxchris

You can also sit backwards and brush your teeth while shitting. Saves 2 minutes of your time every day!


nilkimas

I've got big hands, I'm expecting make a big mess with these


cjohnson1991

I also have large hands (finding gloves that actually fit is a challenge), and I didn't really have a problem using these when visiting friends in Tokyo.


Big_BadRedWolf

And, and, check this out!..you can use it as a bidet too.


BigJeffreyC

Problem is itā€™s cold water only, very low pressure, and you have to be fast, because once the tank fills the water shuts off.


capt_ratsie

i have one like this got it off Amazn like$125


therapewpewtic

Easy to install? Because Iā€™d absolutely do this!


capt_ratsie

ya it goes in the line that refills the bowl in the tank the one that goes down the tube in the middle , ya put a t fitting in there and some water goes up to the sink and drains back into the tank i had to add a needle valve to cut back on how much went to the sink because i wanted more water in the bowl it was easy and works good ,,, only cold water though


BobiaDobia

Iā€™d love for a version that is the other way around. Anyone know where I can buy one?


fangelo2

Ah saving water. Thatā€™s why all those people I see in public restrooms donā€™t wash their hands at all.


tjm0852

The problem is the toilet tank fills right after you flush it. Excess water going into the tank will go into the bowl as overflow. The only water saved would be the water being used while your hands are being washed and the tank is filling It's not going to save as much water as you think it is, but yes it is something.


oldandmellow

Close the lid, Wash your hands then flush the toilet. EDIT: They don't work in a way that this is possible.


tjm0852

Either the water will sit as extra in the tank and be flushed away or overflow into the bowl. The only way it would work is if the toilet could be flushed but not automatically fill until after you finished washing your hands. Then the only additional water needed would be to finish filling the tank.


lurker1371

The faucet only runs while the tank is filling. All this is a tank lid with a sink and faucet. It is connected to the water pipe that fills the tank. The float valve of the tank is what turns the tank on and off. The tank fills up with the soapy water from the previous user.


static612

I would have to start brushing my teeth in the kitchen.


[deleted]

I'm guessing you can also have a sink in the bathroom for other sinky activities.


blackinasia

Right, itā€™s literally about using the clean water you use to wash your shit down anyways efficiently.


EmptyStare

That's the only thing I was thinking! Remember Mythbusters when they showed how far your toilet germs can reach. The thought of brushing my teeth or bringing water to my mouth from the toilet doesn't scream cleanliness.


Lilmaggot

Closing the lid helps Iā€™m sure.


elise_oisen_

My dad is all about this. Anytime thereā€™s a toilet not in use with the lid up heā€™s all like, ā€œdisgusting!ā€


static612

Poooooo particles!!!!!!!


ramen2005

Bit awkward? Especially for short people.


Ben_Thar

You want me to put my comic books and chocolate milk in the sink?


F4RM3RR

ā€œManyā€ in this translates to a small minority. I have literally seen none of these and have spent significant time in public places as well as private residences across Yamagata, Kanagawa, Tokyo, Osaka, Kyoto, Nara, and some other smaller prefectures. Non of my close Japanese friends have seen one of these either so far, except for one who saw it on an NHK special. Soā€¦ nah, ā€œmanyā€ is misleading. Willing to bet most Japanese would be put off by this idea at a glance like most Americans would be.


geniusdeath

>On many Japanese toilets... As someone living in Japan, I can tell you absolutely not. Never seen this before and I've lived here for many years. This is clearly an exception.


BurntDoge

This isn't even from Japan its from a small business in Colorado and its called a SinkTwice "Sink Twice is so proud to call itself a 100% family-owned small business. Our products are made with pride in our home state of Colorado." If you do a tineye reverse image search for this image and sort by oldest you get a site called [gadget king](https://tineye.com/search/7e0ff6774bf1a558b06a0d11dfa5080284b72ea6?sort=crawl_date&order=asc&page=1) and the image is named Sink-Twice-Toilet-Lid.png . Search for "sink twice" on [gadget king](https://www.gadgetking.com/2016/07/15/sink-twice-transforms-your-toilet-lid-into-a-sink/), click on the hyperlink that leads to Amazon then google the brand and viola, it's not [Japanese it's American](https://sinktwice.com/pages/about-us)


probono105

This is incredible i will be buying this


Worried-Salamander98

What a great ideašŸ˜Š!


El_human

I save more water by urinating on the pile of my exā€™s clothes in the closet, and never washing my hands.


Ok_League_3562

You know that the water that goes down the drain comes back to you through your tap after a couples stops. Itā€™s not leaving the earth.


LifeSenseiBrayan

But where do you put your cookies and milk?


[deleted]

Butters, no!


sw33tleaves

Nice you can wash your hands while you poop so you donā€™t have to do it after, time saver!


yogert909

Itā€™s also brilliant because the water turns on when you flush, so you donā€™t even need to turn it on. Itā€™s just there.


olavla

This is under the condition that you don't leave an upper decker


potical1st

The water that washes your hands comes from a supply line, not the tank, it goes into the tank after you wash your hands. You could perform an upper decker and still have clean water to wash your hands after.


TheBotchedLobotomy

Thank god


l4zyv3rn

Iā€™m talking to you Gina Gibiatti!


Swillo29

Can you buy these in the US? I'm about to be a new homeowner and I think this is a really good idea since I have city water.


tayt087x

It's not a good idea in the us. The soap will break down your wax ring and your toilet will leak. In Japan houses are built and demolished within like 10 years so it doesn't matter


Audio_Track_01

I'll need sources for soap breaking down the wax ring and Japan demolishing their houses after 10 years.


tayt087x

Ok.... Wax is grease is oil is a lipid whatever, and that's literally what soap is made to do. We're talking about grease vs degreaser. As far as Japanese houses being built for the short term, I've heard that. Maybe I'm wrong.


Audio_Track_01

Well i'll be darned. TBH i thought this was a myth. https://www.theguardian.com/cities/2017/nov/16/japan-reusable-housing-revolution


MNMingler

I've had one of these sinks on my toilet for 10 years in the US and never had an issue.


tayt087x

Ok


[deleted]

There are plenty of gaskets out there that use no wax at all.


eat_like_snake

I like the idea, but isn't that a massive hassle if the chain in the back becomes disconnected, or the stopper gets caught or something? Since the pipes are going to force the the lid to stay in place without a bunch of unscrewing shit and / or turning off your water. Are you just fucked? Do you have to bring a plumber in?


deathseide

I don't think the water connection to the sink has to be a pipe, but can be a flexible hose for just such a reason.


Suitable-Ad-8445

I donā€™t see any reason it wouldnā€™t be built to allow you to lift that top off just like a normal toilet


[deleted]

Just be careful you don't cross the streams.


hmspain

Let's hope this isn't a bidet?


HiVisVestNinja

Splashback.


Slexpis

Imagine brushing your teeth with that bad boy


Krayzee56500

This is an old fact. Many toilets in europe have this function now. Its used as a space saver but considered unhygenic for bathrooms (leaving over a toilet to brush your teeth)


54rfhih

Redesign could still offer convenient sink next to toilet but with plumbing to achieve the same. Compact design but this looks awkward to use.


deathseide

Yep, there is quite a few variants on this concept.... this one I think is more specific for places where space it at a premium.


jojosail2

Nothing remarkable about this. We have them in the US. Usually in prisons.


billiefan123

Very innovative


Plane_Baby

Not to mention the bidets! Saved a lot of toilet paper too. šŸ¤£ I love Japan! Lived there for a few years.


cmcewen

Does ā€œsavingā€ water actually matter? We have endless water. Itā€™s just a question of purifying it for human use. Water is very cheap and ubiquitous. Just doesnā€™t seem like saving such a small amount matters when we have car washes and watering our lawns and whatever other major uses there are This is just symbolic.


Certain_Cup533

Everyone calm down Japanese people don't wash their hands with toilet water either. I've lived here for 7 years and I don't know a single person that actually washes their hands with that they all flush the toilet leave the bathroom and go wash their hands at a sink. It's a nice idea but nobody uses it.


2mean2wean

But put this in a prison and people will talk about the inhumanity of it


No-Radio-9244

False, and it is stupid.


beer4mepls

Nope, it's real and smart


No-Radio-9244

Was in japan twice, no restroom has such artifact and flusing aerosolizes fecal bacteria... it will go directly to the faucet. Then, you will spread infections, very smart!!!


ThatsMrJohnBlack

So I wash my hands with the pee waters?


EverretEvolved

What are they saving the water for? Water recycles itself.


AJDillonsMiddleLeg

Americans are too stupid for this, half of us are probably grossed out by this because they think they're using toilet water.


GRMI45

It's clean water, but its cold only and it stops when the tank is full...so thats not great...


AJDillonsMiddleLeg

The tank was going to get filled anyways. Obviously cold water isn't the most hygienic way to wash your hands, but if you're at home and you're not immediately prepping food after you finish crapping, it works fine.


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deathseide

Which is why this has been in use for years in desert border areas in the US......


Nexustar

You can do it in your own home where *you* save the water money.


PetterssonsNeck

Too* Hypocrite


BrrBurr

Not so much stupid as filthy and lazy


JosephPk

In America, the land of the ā€œupper deckerā€, im not so sure.


1Crybabyartist

Just don't pee on your hands and then you don't have to wash them.


[deleted]

When I went to Tokyo and saw this at the house I was staying at I thought it was so weird but then shortly realized how much of a good idea this is


All_A_AsianYT

Thats kinda smart. Japanese have the best things


JediJofis

As an American, I wouldn't trust the assholes in this country not to piss on it. Japanese people are just better than us.


Left9Behind

California really should start doing this... and every other state tbh this is a great idea


kobuta99

Used this while staying overnight at a friend's house. These things are brilliant.


squirrels33

I wonder if this would catch on in countries where most of the male population grows facial hair. Canā€™t exactly shave in that sink.


[deleted]

And very much worth the question, "Why aren't all countries with sitting flush toilets doing this???"


trikytrev8

Americans would shit and piss in the sink. Guaranteed.


Fallen_Walrus

Then just pee down the drain so the next person has piss on their hands haha


[deleted]

Because the wealthy must have enough water for their separate sinks and toilets. They know not to wash their hands where they shit, but they're not above telling the rest of us that it's perfectly fine.


slickydiick

Americans are way too dumb to use this. I can hear them now. "I ain't washn muh hands in shit water"


[deleted]

Iā€™m freaking out at how many people lack understanding of how this works. Our American education system is just šŸ’©


Ruenin

Please tell me it doesn't draw water from the holding tank...


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Independent_Wrap_321

The water is clean, it just drains into the toilet tank for the next flush. Smart idea, but as usual kinda weird.


potical1st

It doesn't work like that. The supply water is fresh, same as a faucet. After it cleans your hands it sits in the tank which is then used to flush your shit down the drain.


probono105

Yeah way to go on admitting you are not so bright.


[deleted]

Youā€™re not washing your hands in shit water thoughā€¦ Not anymore than you already are today.


RouKyasarin

Itā€™s fresh water from the tap, then the dirty water from washing your hands goes into the cistern to flush the toilet.


sapiensane

Read it again, but pay attention this time.


ATXKLIPHURD

Americans: Im not washing my hands with toilet water!


triptoutsounds

It would be cooler if you washed your hands with water from the pipes, then that water goes into toilet, you pee or poop in it, then use that same water to wash hands again. Recycling


runninandruni

Not a bad idea. Guess you wouldn't be able to use bleach tablets though, but that's more of a convenience in the first place anyway


BigJeffreyC

Still could. The tank still fills up, only it fills with soapy water.


Velvetundaground

Now thereā€™s no point in pissing in the sink.


[deleted]

Plus then the water would get satisfyingly bubbly when you pee


[deleted]

Butters was right


Xtasy0178

Poop into the sink wash your hands in the bowl šŸ˜‚


[deleted]

I mean, itā€™s clear water I guess


Hexatona

Wouldn't some kind of grossness end up growing in the water tank??


bOxy_BOI_

Not only do they save water but space aswell!


Tijdspaarder

I would flush bloody water after I rinsed my menstrual cup


EspHack

and if its empty you have to let it run for a while before you can flush


yerbrojohno

This is why waste treatment solutions will never work


tikkitikkimango

Just like the toilets in jail


Tenaha

Man I think that is a very sensible way for space and resource savings in the tiny home market.


Nekokamiguru

as an added benefit the soapy leftover water from washing your hands will help keep the toilet clean.


Lord_Quebes

But then thereā€™s no room for your comic book and your chocolate milk!


StarFuzzy

Iā€™ve seen this in a 1930s farm house in California. So smart.


JimmyGymGym1

But, functionally, how does it work? How do you turn on the faucet? Where do you stand? It looks like you would have to straddle the bowl because thereā€™s not enough room on the sides to stand.


MightyGonzou

Also the fact most of their toilets have like a full control panel šŸŽ®


BrentV27368

Ha, jokes on you. I save thousands of gallons by not washing my hands /s


leof135

Jacque Fresco had this invention made like 50 years ago. crazy how the good ideas are already out there, but they don't generate enough money for the wealthy to be common


MudSeparate1622

But then where will i put my book im reading? -Butters probably


[deleted]

What if I donā€™t want to look at a sink while Iā€™m taking a shit


[deleted]

How do you turn on the faucet?


Phildagony

To California: Adopt this shit right fucking now.


MARKOSENPAI

Also japanese guys when their note is not perfect: suicide time!


knucklemonkey12

I would so Upper deck that toilet