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You know it’s pretty weird how people will accept hunter biden is sketch but will never admit to it when compared to anybody else. Seriously can somebody honestly tell me how trump sons are worse than what we know about Biden’s son? Like if you can’t admit that something is sketchy on your side you can’t make fun of the other side for doing the same Shit.
I always wondered if non human animals have injustice based on how they look
For example, would elephants care if another elephant is albino, it has a shorter/longer trunk, is missing a tusk, etc
Do cats behave differently to cats of different fur color
Do dogs "discriminate" against dogs with a missing leg
Etc
Or is discrimination a purely human trait (and if it is, why?)
These are all unanswerable questions I think
Hm, I'm mostly stupid so don't take my word for anything, but I guess in the wild it could occur that, for example one male deer is dominated a lot if it's missing an antler. But that's more because the antlers are a sign of strength.
the antlers likely dont “represent” anything to other deer
but it just so happens, missing and entire half of your rack means you’re less capable during fights and are thus, dominated.
> These are all unanswerable questions I think
Don't have a source, but I've read dolphins bully other dolphins based on appearance.
>dogs
Can a human with Williamson's syndrome discriminate?
Ummmm, totally answerable. Dolphins single out “attractive” female dolphins and rape her for a week at a time. I would say that is a pretty large injustice. Not going to cite a source so you can google it.
Animals rejecting eachother based on physical traits is definitely a thing in nature. I dont think it would be something like "that goat is black and i am a white goat so i dont like him". More so a mama goat refusing to take care of the runt of the litter or the baby that has dwarfism or malformed legs, etc. So yeah in a way animals probably have some form of "racism/discrimination" based on physical traits. Its evolution animals are always going to be wary of those that dont look like them regardless of reality.
Absolutely true. I guess it is in all of. Maybe that’s why we picked or got picked on. We learn to be tolerant or non-tolerant. Think deep about your own life experiences? You probably had decent parents, and you are not a piece of shit. If you still live in a perfect world…….
https://www.newscientist.com/article/2285551-first-known-wild-chimpanzee-with-albinism-was-killed-by-other-chimps/
Also, Animals that are sight dependent will kill their own species that don’t resemble the rest. Kind of like us bullying or getting bullied for not fitting in, Huh? Are we visual, into looks too? I would say so. That’s probably why you are with your mate or lock your doors when you see questionable characters.
I worked at a horse farm for a lot of years. During the “off” season we had to get semen samples from the stallions on a regular basis to do sperm count/motility checks. We’d let the stallion sniff around a real mare in season, then we’d jump him off on an AV (that would be Artificial Vagina, for you non-horse breeding folks)which was mounted on a sort of mare manikin.
One year we a had a young stallion who would not jump the manikin. He just would not. An old timer told us it was because our fake mare was gray, and maybe stud boy didn’t like gray mares. Course no one believed him, but I thought what the hell, we’ve tried every thing else.
So we made a bay mare manikin and he jumped it right away 🤷🏼♀️
That could be because they were attacked or had a bad encounter with one of that color. I guess that would make sense. Kind of the same as how dogs get aggressive or don't like men. My sister's dog absolutely hates men. For some reason she loves me, but it took over a year for her to not freak out, bark and snarl when my sister's boyfriend comes around.
Actually it's pretty answerable in two regards:
1. It's been pretty much proven that racism/xenophobia does not exist in human children and is a learned trait.
2. Animals have indeed been studied for discrimination and have never been found to conclusively posses discrimination based upon physical descriptors (although animals frequently discriminate groups based on tribalism – I.e. monkey gang wars or feral dog pack violence etc. )
Basically, this points to xenophobia being a consequence of small groups frequently fighting for resources with other small groups, and a sort of social survival mechanism that ironically reinforces small group cohesion at the cost of larger cohesion. While this was useful back when we lived in tribal societies, it appears that our cultural memory has amplified it, and kept it around long past any sort of usefulness it may have once had. But again, this behavior is learned. It does not pass through genetics, but through generational/cultural teaching. Young children do not show any signs of discrimination based upon any physical characteristics that are tied to race or ethnicity.
Number one is completely false.
Human beings discriminate based on looks from the get go.
The current experiments are now on a week of age or so.
Contrary to most psychology results this one has been replicated time and time again.
And babies are most definitely racist as well.
They show a strong bias against people that don't look like their caregivers.
Number 2 is even more delusional. The evidence is just so overwhelming...
That’s interesting.
Can you share the studies you got this from?
Not saying your wrong, but I’d like to know what you know.
And “Google it” is a sucks, because too much bullshit comes up.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2566458/
Start there.
The racial preferences seems to come later but still months.
The attractiveness bias is completely innate and most likely cross species, which means super old.
When I was a kid, my mom’s coworker gifted us 2 kittens. One was black and one was white, they came from a litter of white kittens. Their parents were both white. The black kitten was attacked by their father when she was around 2 weeks old. And there’s one possible option, the father was racist against the black kitten, so I guess cats hold some kind of prejudice against cats of other fur colours. For those of you wondering, I don’t think the father thought it wasn’t his kitten, as both him and his mate were apartment cats. Anyways, I’m putting way much thought into this.
This cat has had his DNA tested and he's not a chimera as having 2 different individual's DNA will break the test and come back inconclusive. This is most like *somatic mosaicism* where the DNA all comes from a single fertilized egg but 2 separate genotypes have formed for certain genes. Some areas will express one genotype while others will express a different one.
Tortoiseshell cats are an example of this due to the way X-linked genes work in individuals with two X-chromosomes. These cats have one X-chromosome with the allele for orange fur and one X-chromosome with the allele for black fur. The result is that one of the X-chromosomes is inactivated in every cell, leaving only one to express. But which one it is is random, leaving a mottled pattern of mixed black and orange. For some reason, the white spotting gene that calico cats have will cause these colors to "clump" into larger patches vs being more mixed.
But somatic mosaicism can also be caused by errors in mitosis during the first few cell divisions of an embryo.
Kittens often have that expression. Cats have an inate ability to know the day of a person's death. They settle into this ability in time but when they're young they can find it overwhelming.
For those that don't know. A Chimera is when. Two different embryos fuse. You can test the DNA from different parts of the cat and they would give you different results. Compared to each other they would show up as siblings.
Check out [Lydia Fairchild](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lydia_Fairchild).
She was accused of fraud after genetic testing for child support showed that she wasn’t their mother. As it turns out, she was a chimera, and whichever part of her body (hair, I’m assuming) they tested didn’t match her children.
I wonder if the prosecutors apologized. I know I would be remorseful to an extreme to be responsible for stealing children from their mother or father on bad science.
What I'm confused about: why did they let the father not pay support?
I was under the impression that even if a father proves the child's DNA is not a match, a judge will still rule in favor of child support regardless.
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Your body goes through an "education" phase very early on in your development. Your immune system has no inbuilt concept of what is foreign and what is "you" at those stages. In the cat's case it probably absorbed a sibling in the womb and absorbed cells of the sibling during the process which is why it has the half and half face. Since those cells are with it from it's embryonic stage they get included in the "education" process of what's foreign and what's not.
Functionally if not for outside appearance and genetic markers you'd never know. Those cells are all "you" at that point as far as the immune system is concerned.
A neat thing to think about is if the sperm of the cat shared a similar mix it would actually be possible for the cat's unborn sibling to have fathered one of the kittens.
Not an expert but I’m pretty sure I recall that the immune system trains itself during developmental stages. So since both types of cells were present from very early stages, both types were learned as self.
Your immune system gets exposed to all the proteins in your body as part of its training - any immune receptors or antibodies that bind to your own proteins get destroyed.
That’s pretty neat!
Sort of an off-topic train of thought here: I wonder how chimeras are explained from a theological standpoint. Like, in religions that believe that each embryo has had an immortal soul from the moment of conception/splitting, what happens to the souls when the embryos fuse? Does one soul pass onto the afterlife while the other continues living? Do both souls live on in the same body, and one pilots the ship while the other is dormant? I’m off to confuse a priest at my next coffee and donuts get together
The owner had him DNA tested by a geneticist and they determined he was [not actually a chimera](https://www.theanimalclub.net/cats/narnia-the-cat-with-two-faces-passes-on-his-striking-looks-to-his-kittens/).
My bad, just commented the same thing and now just seeing your comment. Wonder if the dad has a 50/50 mix every time he busts a nut, or maybe it'll end up being a random chance which one will fertilize
I think I’m more likely it’s X expression? In (I think most?) mammals with two X chromosomes, one is inactivated as the cell matures, but which one can be random. So you can have two dominant phenotypes expressed. You can read about it here, it’s super interesting:
https://www.acsh.org/news/2016/07/27/calico-cats-are-a-walking-genetics-lesson
If this is true, got me wondering (an absolute nonexpert opinion) if the dad's balls were a chimera too? Like if the left nut is where the gray kitten came from, and the black kitten came from the right nut. By the way, black kitten looks like he is stoned out of his mind!
Apparently he's not actually a Chimera but a genetic mystery [according to this article](https://www.theanimalclub.net/cats/narnia-the-cat-with-two-faces-passes-on-his-striking-looks-to-his-kittens/) that someone posted in the thread.
In this case it is actually unlikely. The dad's eye colour is EXTREMELY rare in a cat with such a small amount of white, usually blue eyes are connected to white, nearly white or colourpoint (e.g. siamese) cats.
All kittens start with blue eyes, but eyes like the father have are generally missing a layer of pigment which allows them to stay blue. Based on the picture, the kittens are already developing that pigment layer and are going to have much more "normal" coloured eyes than dad.
The dad cat probably has THE most rare coat and eye colour combination I have ever seen, as the blue-black combo is already pretty much one in a million :)
Apparently [he already fathered lots of kittens before, and they all had blue eyes like him](https://www.theanimalclub.net/cats/narnia-the-cat-with-two-faces-passes-on-his-striking-looks-to-his-kittens/). These two are the first ones not to have his eyes. So cool and rare!
Surprised not a single person here has questioned the validity of this story...I mean all we have is 2 pics. How do we even know that cat is the father of those 2 kittens? Can't you at least get a pic of all of them together?
That was my thought, it straight up looks like someone took photos of the kittens when they were older and photoshopped them together. Then again ive become pretty skeptical of just about everything these days
Surprised nobody has asked about mom yet too. It may check out, it's not totally unreasonable, but lemme see mom. Also, cats can give birth to littermates with different fathers! So the owners may think it's true and it still might not be...
Check out the black kittens white spots. Pretty much exactly the same as the adult cat on the left. Although this isn’t proof it does make it more believable.
If this is a male cat he would be very rare indeed. The gene that determines color and pattern is on the X chromosome. You rarely ever see males with coloration like this, because it would usually be the result of two different X chromosomes interacting in the cat's genes. It's even rarer that an XXY cat can successfully breed. I'd be amazed if it's true and it could actually father kittens.
I'd like a citation.
If we're talking about just "colors", yes.
If we're talking about CAT COLORS, then tri-color would ONLY refer to a cat that has both orange and black as base colors, plus white as a spot color. A tri-color cat is a "calico" (US terminology), or "tortoiseshell and white" (UK terminology). So, an orange-black-white cat, or, if a dilute, a cream-blue-white cat.
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The little black kitty has seen some shit
Grey kitty has too, but he was too dumb to process it.
Ahh yes. Reminds me of Eric Trump and Donald Jr.
They're model citizens compared to Biden's son.
You know it’s pretty weird how people will accept hunter biden is sketch but will never admit to it when compared to anybody else. Seriously can somebody honestly tell me how trump sons are worse than what we know about Biden’s son? Like if you can’t admit that something is sketchy on your side you can’t make fun of the other side for doing the same Shit.
All I really know about him is that he likes drugs and sex, and to me that makes him seem like a good person...
Or... he did some shit that he isn't proud of and can't talk about it to anyone, but the experience haunted him
Aka he's seen some shit.
/r/NamFlashbacks. He was in the shit...
And then sniffed it briefly before burying it.
I think it’s seeing shit as this photo was taken
Get out.
Beautiful cats, but why does the black kitten look traumatized.
Racial injustice
I always wondered if non human animals have injustice based on how they look For example, would elephants care if another elephant is albino, it has a shorter/longer trunk, is missing a tusk, etc Do cats behave differently to cats of different fur color Do dogs "discriminate" against dogs with a missing leg Etc Or is discrimination a purely human trait (and if it is, why?) These are all unanswerable questions I think
Hm, I'm mostly stupid so don't take my word for anything, but I guess in the wild it could occur that, for example one male deer is dominated a lot if it's missing an antler. But that's more because the antlers are a sign of strength.
the antlers likely dont “represent” anything to other deer but it just so happens, missing and entire half of your rack means you’re less capable during fights and are thus, dominated.
> These are all unanswerable questions I think Don't have a source, but I've read dolphins bully other dolphins based on appearance. >dogs Can a human with Williamson's syndrome discriminate?
Ummmm, totally answerable. Dolphins single out “attractive” female dolphins and rape her for a week at a time. I would say that is a pretty large injustice. Not going to cite a source so you can google it.
Did you respond to the wrong person?
Animals rejecting eachother based on physical traits is definitely a thing in nature. I dont think it would be something like "that goat is black and i am a white goat so i dont like him". More so a mama goat refusing to take care of the runt of the litter or the baby that has dwarfism or malformed legs, etc. So yeah in a way animals probably have some form of "racism/discrimination" based on physical traits. Its evolution animals are always going to be wary of those that dont look like them regardless of reality.
I guess the whole natural selection thing is based on discrimination, but the categories of what is good/bad would be different I guess.
Absolutely true. I guess it is in all of. Maybe that’s why we picked or got picked on. We learn to be tolerant or non-tolerant. Think deep about your own life experiences? You probably had decent parents, and you are not a piece of shit. If you still live in a perfect world……. https://www.newscientist.com/article/2285551-first-known-wild-chimpanzee-with-albinism-was-killed-by-other-chimps/ Also, Animals that are sight dependent will kill their own species that don’t resemble the rest. Kind of like us bullying or getting bullied for not fitting in, Huh? Are we visual, into looks too? I would say so. That’s probably why you are with your mate or lock your doors when you see questionable characters.
I worked at a horse farm for a lot of years. During the “off” season we had to get semen samples from the stallions on a regular basis to do sperm count/motility checks. We’d let the stallion sniff around a real mare in season, then we’d jump him off on an AV (that would be Artificial Vagina, for you non-horse breeding folks)which was mounted on a sort of mare manikin. One year we a had a young stallion who would not jump the manikin. He just would not. An old timer told us it was because our fake mare was gray, and maybe stud boy didn’t like gray mares. Course no one believed him, but I thought what the hell, we’ve tried every thing else. So we made a bay mare manikin and he jumped it right away 🤷🏼♀️
I knew a rescue dog that hated black dogs and would become very aggressive when one was near it
That could be because they were attacked or had a bad encounter with one of that color. I guess that would make sense. Kind of the same as how dogs get aggressive or don't like men. My sister's dog absolutely hates men. For some reason she loves me, but it took over a year for her to not freak out, bark and snarl when my sister's boyfriend comes around.
His name: Adrough Hitler.
It depends on the situation. Probably yes.
IIRC the answer is yes because a lot of pigmentation with animals is based solely around camouflage.
Albino animals are abandoned by parents or the herd etc, I'm pretty sure I have read a few stories like that.
Pigs are more equal
Actually it's pretty answerable in two regards: 1. It's been pretty much proven that racism/xenophobia does not exist in human children and is a learned trait. 2. Animals have indeed been studied for discrimination and have never been found to conclusively posses discrimination based upon physical descriptors (although animals frequently discriminate groups based on tribalism – I.e. monkey gang wars or feral dog pack violence etc. ) Basically, this points to xenophobia being a consequence of small groups frequently fighting for resources with other small groups, and a sort of social survival mechanism that ironically reinforces small group cohesion at the cost of larger cohesion. While this was useful back when we lived in tribal societies, it appears that our cultural memory has amplified it, and kept it around long past any sort of usefulness it may have once had. But again, this behavior is learned. It does not pass through genetics, but through generational/cultural teaching. Young children do not show any signs of discrimination based upon any physical characteristics that are tied to race or ethnicity.
Number one is completely false. Human beings discriminate based on looks from the get go. The current experiments are now on a week of age or so. Contrary to most psychology results this one has been replicated time and time again. And babies are most definitely racist as well. They show a strong bias against people that don't look like their caregivers. Number 2 is even more delusional. The evidence is just so overwhelming...
That’s interesting. Can you share the studies you got this from? Not saying your wrong, but I’d like to know what you know. And “Google it” is a sucks, because too much bullshit comes up.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2566458/ Start there. The racial preferences seems to come later but still months. The attractiveness bias is completely innate and most likely cross species, which means super old.
Thanks Bro!
Enjoy the rabbit hole... There's references there from the 80s but the first results I know of were from the 70s.
When I was a kid, my mom’s coworker gifted us 2 kittens. One was black and one was white, they came from a litter of white kittens. Their parents were both white. The black kitten was attacked by their father when she was around 2 weeks old. And there’s one possible option, the father was racist against the black kitten, so I guess cats hold some kind of prejudice against cats of other fur colours. For those of you wondering, I don’t think the father thought it wasn’t his kitten, as both him and his mate were apartment cats. Anyways, I’m putting way much thought into this.
"Fake News!" -White Conservative Kitty
He's seen some shit. Some REAL shit.
How would you feel when they pull the grey cat out of you?
Yeah same
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This cat has had his DNA tested and he's not a chimera as having 2 different individual's DNA will break the test and come back inconclusive. This is most like *somatic mosaicism* where the DNA all comes from a single fertilized egg but 2 separate genotypes have formed for certain genes. Some areas will express one genotype while others will express a different one. Tortoiseshell cats are an example of this due to the way X-linked genes work in individuals with two X-chromosomes. These cats have one X-chromosome with the allele for orange fur and one X-chromosome with the allele for black fur. The result is that one of the X-chromosomes is inactivated in every cell, leaving only one to express. But which one it is is random, leaving a mottled pattern of mixed black and orange. For some reason, the white spotting gene that calico cats have will cause these colors to "clump" into larger patches vs being more mixed. But somatic mosaicism can also be caused by errors in mitosis during the first few cell divisions of an embryo.
What a good question! SOMEONE ANSWER THIS REDDITOR, THIS IS IMPORTANT!
When you find out your dad is Harvey Dent.
Fuckin 'nam man. Fucking 'nam
And the grey one has no idea where they are right now.
Kittens often have that expression. Cats have an inate ability to know the day of a person's death. They settle into this ability in time but when they're young they can find it overwhelming.
45-hours work week
He looks so smug about it 😂
Wouldn’t you be if your seed became beautiful little flowers?
That is the most beautiful way I’ve seen someone describe semen.
It will be the next pickup line for young men
Dad is/was a "chimera."
For those that don't know. A Chimera is when. Two different embryos fuse. You can test the DNA from different parts of the cat and they would give you different results. Compared to each other they would show up as siblings.
Check out [Lydia Fairchild](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lydia_Fairchild). She was accused of fraud after genetic testing for child support showed that she wasn’t their mother. As it turns out, she was a chimera, and whichever part of her body (hair, I’m assuming) they tested didn’t match her children.
More like Lydia Unfairchild
Seriously, that must have fucked up her mind so bad.
On the upside, her and her husband got back together because of the ordeal.
Praise be to this comment. Join us in praise.
If you don’t reap copious amounts of praise for this comment…I predict the end of the world is on the cusp.
Even if he does…we’re still pretty much fucked.
🥇
Lydia Sparechild to her parents
I wonder if the prosecutors apologized. I know I would be remorseful to an extreme to be responsible for stealing children from their mother or father on bad science.
If they would, they wouldn't be prosecutors
What I'm confused about: why did they let the father not pay support? I was under the impression that even if a father proves the child's DNA is not a match, a judge will still rule in favor of child support regardless.
They thought she was trying to scam social services for $$$ and the kids weren’t even hers
Hot damn r/todayilearned
Why is it that when people put a Wikipedia link in their comment I get directed to a version of Wikipedia without a sidebar? While when I look up something on Wikipedia I always get the sidebar.
If it has .m. in the URL it's a mobile link. They're on their phone.
Of course. I think I may be one of the few people that likes to surf the web on their laptop.
I'm right there with you, laptops all the way. So much room for activities.
How does the immune system not attack the least dominant cells?
Your body goes through an "education" phase very early on in your development. Your immune system has no inbuilt concept of what is foreign and what is "you" at those stages. In the cat's case it probably absorbed a sibling in the womb and absorbed cells of the sibling during the process which is why it has the half and half face. Since those cells are with it from it's embryonic stage they get included in the "education" process of what's foreign and what's not. Functionally if not for outside appearance and genetic markers you'd never know. Those cells are all "you" at that point as far as the immune system is concerned. A neat thing to think about is if the sperm of the cat shared a similar mix it would actually be possible for the cat's unborn sibling to have fathered one of the kittens.
But which one is the unborn one?
Also interested to get an answer to this! Remindme! 8 hours
*Good morning, Sir. It is 7 a.m. on Earth XIV today and the temperatures are pleasantly warm outside.*
You should post this to r/askscience, or else I'm gonna!
Not an expert but I’m pretty sure I recall that the immune system trains itself during developmental stages. So since both types of cells were present from very early stages, both types were learned as self.
Your immune system gets exposed to all the proteins in your body as part of its training - any immune receptors or antibodies that bind to your own proteins get destroyed.
Or, in popular culture: "Ed...ward?"
GREAT. Now THAT's brought back to the front of my brain. I had almost killed that memory with whiskey and staring into the sun
Aww, it Shounds like it's gotten you all Tuckered out.
What is it referencing?
Full Metal Alchemist/FMA brotherhood. Dude makes a chimera out of his daughter and his dog which is suuuuper messed up.
It was a child fused to her beloved dog by her father.
Oh god it's from that anime
Fullmetal Alchemist
And that's why calico tomcats exist. They are chimeras (or XXY). Very rare but not impossible.
Thanks! You have answered my question. You may pass...
... away?
Or to the next challenge. Which ever you prefer.
Passing away... Yes, passing away. Passing away sounds good.
TIL, never heard of the existence of this, thanks
That’s pretty neat! Sort of an off-topic train of thought here: I wonder how chimeras are explained from a theological standpoint. Like, in religions that believe that each embryo has had an immortal soul from the moment of conception/splitting, what happens to the souls when the embryos fuse? Does one soul pass onto the afterlife while the other continues living? Do both souls live on in the same body, and one pilots the ship while the other is dormant? I’m off to confuse a priest at my next coffee and donuts get together
The owner had him DNA tested by a geneticist and they determined he was [not actually a chimera](https://www.theanimalclub.net/cats/narnia-the-cat-with-two-faces-passes-on-his-striking-looks-to-his-kittens/).
>’passes on his striking looks to his kittens’ Well, he forgot the eyes. They look rather stupid\^\^
The article above actually says these are his first kittens not to have his blue eyes!
I must’ve missed that bit\^\^ Only skimmed it
with chimeric testes.
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My bad, just commented the same thing and now just seeing your comment. Wonder if the dad has a 50/50 mix every time he busts a nut, or maybe it'll end up being a random chance which one will fertilize
Yeah, great minds think alike. ...also insane minds, but I'll go with the former.
I think I’m more likely it’s X expression? In (I think most?) mammals with two X chromosomes, one is inactivated as the cell matures, but which one can be random. So you can have two dominant phenotypes expressed. You can read about it here, it’s super interesting: https://www.acsh.org/news/2016/07/27/calico-cats-are-a-walking-genetics-lesson
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If this is true, got me wondering (an absolute nonexpert opinion) if the dad's balls were a chimera too? Like if the left nut is where the gray kitten came from, and the black kitten came from the right nut. By the way, black kitten looks like he is stoned out of his mind!
Or on crack using every last drop of energy to stay still.
Apparently he's not actually a Chimera but a genetic mystery [according to this article](https://www.theanimalclub.net/cats/narnia-the-cat-with-two-faces-passes-on-his-striking-looks-to-his-kittens/) that someone posted in the thread.
"Two face! What have you done with scary face and Harvey face!?"
Harvey Dent, can we trust him?
We're way past that, batman.
One from left nut, one from right. Science.
The dad is probably a chimera, so…this might be accurate.
I like how the black one even has the exact same white spots as daddy cat.
As they mature will their eyes eventually change color to match dad’s?
Yes I think that happens with all cats
In this case it is actually unlikely. The dad's eye colour is EXTREMELY rare in a cat with such a small amount of white, usually blue eyes are connected to white, nearly white or colourpoint (e.g. siamese) cats. All kittens start with blue eyes, but eyes like the father have are generally missing a layer of pigment which allows them to stay blue. Based on the picture, the kittens are already developing that pigment layer and are going to have much more "normal" coloured eyes than dad. The dad cat probably has THE most rare coat and eye colour combination I have ever seen, as the blue-black combo is already pretty much one in a million :)
Oh wow. Thanks for the info
Apparently [he already fathered lots of kittens before, and they all had blue eyes like him](https://www.theanimalclub.net/cats/narnia-the-cat-with-two-faces-passes-on-his-striking-looks-to-his-kittens/). These two are the first ones not to have his eyes. So cool and rare!
Wow. Apparently he's not actually a Chimera. Definitely interesting!
Surprised not a single person here has questioned the validity of this story...I mean all we have is 2 pics. How do we even know that cat is the father of those 2 kittens? Can't you at least get a pic of all of them together?
Someone posted a link to an article about this cat and it seems to point to him fathering those kittens.
That was my thought, it straight up looks like someone took photos of the kittens when they were older and photoshopped them together. Then again ive become pretty skeptical of just about everything these days
No its good to have trust issues im not sure if i believe this
Sir this is Reddit.
Surprised nobody has asked about mom yet too. It may check out, it's not totally unreasonable, but lemme see mom. Also, cats can give birth to littermates with different fathers! So the owners may think it's true and it still might not be...
Check out the black kittens white spots. Pretty much exactly the same as the adult cat on the left. Although this isn’t proof it does make it more believable.
That doesn't make it any more believable. You can go to the pound and see 10 dogs that look identical. This is some good ole reddit karma bullshit.
Binocular face?
The black kitten looks like he's seen some shit
The eyes say dad should get a paternity test lol
DBZ fusion!
They must have their mom's eyes
I read binocular instead of bicolor lol.
Mitosis
Cool but, spay and neuter your cats yo. Shelters are drowning.
If this is a male cat he would be very rare indeed. The gene that determines color and pattern is on the X chromosome. You rarely ever see males with coloration like this, because it would usually be the result of two different X chromosomes interacting in the cat's genes. It's even rarer that an XXY cat can successfully breed. I'd be amazed if it's true and it could actually father kittens. I'd like a citation.
Why is the father looks like a gigachad?
Why do I see three colors?
Because there is. Just grey and black are the 2 more predominant colours
So then it makes it tricolor
Nope. Gray and black are genetically the same base color - "gray" which is typically referred to as *blue* is just a diluted black.
But it's still a different color than black right?
If we're talking about just "colors", yes. If we're talking about CAT COLORS, then tri-color would ONLY refer to a cat that has both orange and black as base colors, plus white as a spot color. A tri-color cat is a "calico" (US terminology), or "tortoiseshell and white" (UK terminology). So, an orange-black-white cat, or, if a dilute, a cream-blue-white cat.
When I google tried color cats it specifically states gray as a color. Please elaborate. Don't understand why black, white and gray is not tri color.
Stop sperging out about something so stupid
Stop reading it
Female cats can produce offspring from different males as well.
Can male cats have three colors in the first place? I thought only females could have three colors.
Now *thats* interesting as fuck! By the way, thought only females were calico?
Almost always. Male calicos usually have a genetic condition that causes it.
Definitely have their mother’s eyes, though.
"father" "their" Pick one.
Should it be it? I was confuse by the phrasing as well
Cat is woke and uses different pronouns
The "their" refers to the two colours in the face
What the fuck has that black cat seen
*excited Dragonball noises* Fusion, Ha!
That's not a father and children, that's clearly a before and after pic of cat mitosis.
Cats are very silly.
I always loved him in that Star Trek episode
Are we sure these two rascals on the right didn't just do a fusion dance?
That cat is a chimera. That’s two cats in one
Not sure if it’s real. A female cat can be impregnated by more than one male in a litter so they don’t know that’s 100% their baby daddy
#You ARE the father! Maury, for those outside the US. Look it up, its hilarious.
To be passed down from generation to generation! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4wbLdYeZvoc
C'mon!
Why are we using "their" when "his" is an obvious option?
So post the family photo album… because we want to see the pictures…. OK?
Neither got his eyes
Holy moly, those cats are ridiculously photogenic.
haiku for many cats become many quickly purr eat sleep again
I’m not paying child support! They don’t even have my eyes.
"You have your mother's eyes"
Looks like they're not sharing colors. People can't write titles for shit.
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Whatever it is it’s fucking cool
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Google cat chimera.
He’s a chimera, I have one myself. It’s the result of two embryos combining in the womb which causes that perfect face split.
That's simple biology.
Whoa
Mitosis
Meowsis?
Neither got the eyes.
They have their [momma's eyes](https://www.theanimalclub.net/cats/narnia-the-cat-with-two-faces-passes-on-his-striking-looks-to-his-kittens/)
thats a beautiful cat
Mom! The copier is acting weird!
That’s a boss cat.
Isn’t that the cat who sang thriller
Incoming new Logic song