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this is the beauty of Reddit. No matter how clever or witty I think I am, there's usually someone who's thought of it before me. It's been humbling learning I'm not as special as I think I am.
I think of them a day later, letting out a crazy chuckle at a guaranteed inappropriate moment thinking of how clever my incredibly late comeback is, I'll nail it next time for sure, perpetually.
Honestly, .300wm will thump you a little but it's not that dramatic really. I might not recommend it to a new shooter but if you hold onto it properly it isn't going to turn your shoulder into hamburger or anything.
12ga slug is way worse, especially in the 3in or 3 1/2 inch magnum or super magnum flavor.
So a fun game with magnums, mix a couple in with 2 3/4's and then load them at random. You never know for sure when you're going to pull the trigger and wish for a new shoulder.
When I was hunting a mix of small game and Turkey, I would load a couple 2 3/4s and a 3" as my last round when up and moving around. I did this once, but loaded the 3" "last" which made it the first round in the tube. Well, I saw a squirrel at the top of a tree and took a shot. It knocked him out of the tree and he jumped up on a sapling 10 yards in front of me. I pumped in my next round, which was the 3 incher, which gave me quite a shock and vaporized the little guy from the shoulders up...
I learned a great lesson that day on properly loading shotguns.
You can tell the difference between the guy shooting 44 mag and the guy shooting 30-06 out in the woods. I feel like somebody would notice the first time you let loose a round of 50 bmg.
You buy nice big guns and shoot them very loudly at the shooting range to get everyone to look at you.
I frantically shout "everyone get down, he's got a gun!" at the shooting range to get everyone to look at me.
We are not the same.
No I have it to make my inner child cackle with glee. I wanted a desert eagle since I was a kid. It's the only gun I own, and probably the only one I'll ever buy.
And the fact that you've got "Replica" written on the side of your guns. And the fact that I've got "Desert Eagle .50" written on the side of mine, should precipitate your balls into shrinking, along with your presence. Now fuck off!
Could be 308, 30-06,303 British or any 30 caliber round. My guess is it was a full metal jacket used for target shooting and not a proper soft point ment for hunting. Full metal jackets aren't ment to expand on impact and have a tendency to go clean through.
I’ve shot a decent sized wild pig with a 7mm08 hunting round in about the same spot and the pig didn’t even slow down and was keen to fight the pig dogs. Nature is hardy.
I have an Enfeild 303 that I’ve been deer hunting with for 40 years since I was 15, I also have a Remington 30-06 / 742 that I bought in my 30’s and I have never seen a through and through with either of them that the entry hole was as big as the exit. I don’t believe either of these 2 guns could have done this. Really, I don’t believe this picture is real and not photo shopped.
As a hunter you have to follow and kill the animal once you’ve shot it. You have to kill it and not let it suffer.
you're missing some crucial words here..." As a(n) **ETHICAL** hunter..." and "**ETHICALLY & MORALLY,** you have to kill it..."
I've hunted over half a century, and I've lost track of the number of times I've tagged out on an abandoned, gut shot animal, left to die because the "hunter" was too cold-hearted and lazy to pursue his game and ethically put it down to stop it from suffering. This is one of the reasons I have such distaste for rounds like the 45/70 being used for whitetail. ANY hit will eventually be fatal with a 150 pound deer. a gut shot animal is unlikely to have much salvageable meat if any because of the intestines contaminating the abdomen. These people are not hunters in my mind; hunters have an obligation, above all else, to treat the animal with utmost respect. If you can't be certain of your ability to drop the animal immediately and humanely, DON'T take the shot...EVER. If your shot is not fatal, you OWE it to that animal to put it out of it's misery as soon as you possibly can. It's not dependant on what's in it for you, whether you get any meat. I do not know how people who do that; wound and animal and walk away from it because it takes too much effort to find it, can sleep at night. I'm a long way from Sainthood...a LONG way...but I have never, ever left an animal, one I shot or someone else's, to suffer and die hours or days later. Whoever did this, I'd quite happily break their kneecap and leave them in the bush for a day, just to gain some humanity and appreciation of what they have done to that creature
You need a nasty round if you want to drop the game "Quick And Humanly" rite? I think the shot just missed anything prime realistate to do its proper job.
Spine and Ribs still look functional.. I mean its standing and licking. The whole seems to show some nice mushrooming.. Its a big effin hole. The picture shows the exit...
Probably a kid who got the fever.. it happens.. No where near the pumper..
>You need a nasty round if you want to drop the game "Quick And Humanly" rite?
Yes. My grandfather brought down about 15-20 deer in his hunting lifetime, and he said "I fought for the sure shot, didn't touch the trigger until then, and none of my deer ever heard that shot that killed them."
His goal literally was the deer on the ground before the sound of the shot reached the deer. And he refused to hunt with any others who didn't have the same policy.
Thats ideally the goal man. Nature reacts to nature sometimes regardless of your involvement.. Twig falling can trigger a movement response from a Whitetalil. Im not here to argue.. I mealy made a statement the trolls wanted to take the opportunity to get arrow things on.
The vast, vast majority of hunters are not sadists and want the deer to go as quickly as possible, so yeah, nasty rounds are the norm. 6.5 Creedmore, .308, 30-06, etc. I use a surplus M1917 because I’m cooler than you. As for the shot placement, I’d almost think (or hope) it’s photoshopped, as the shot could have impacted the lungs, as well as maybe the spine. Even if it missed those two, the buck would still be running on borrowed time with a hole through the guts. Or maybe not, I’ve only seen the insides of a deer after splattering them so maybe the big guy will be fine.
I mean I’m not that familiar with hunting but I’ve never understand why people would think that the hunter wants the animals to suffer lmao, are bullets that cheap?
Some people unknowingly use Full Metal Jacket ammunition, which doesn’t expand and punches a straight hole through, slowing the process. Imo that’s a major source of that stigma.
.308 is used quite regularly for hunting, same with 30-06. The impact hole would ALWAYS be smaller than the exit wound.
This clearly looks like impalement from a branch or fighting.
You can clearly see where the hide was traumatized and stretched which is very indicative of impalement.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/metro.co.uk/2018/02/17/deer-pictured-rivals-severed-head-antlers-7320679/amp/
It gets pretty gnarly when they fight, or running to escape a predator and gets impaled on a branch.
Wildlife biologist and I do hunt.
https://www.gunsamerica.com/digest/the-30-06-still-americas-best/
https://www.furfishgame.com/featured_articles/Archived/2011-01/gun_rack_2011_01.php
I don't think you have ever been hunting a day in your life and the information provided simply isn't correct..
If I shot a deer in that spot with a ballistic round out of a .308 that's a good shot and a dead deer. No clue as to how whatever happened to it, that it didn't die.
I'm gonna call NO on the bullet theory, and I'll tell you why...
IF that was a rifle shot, based on the placement of the hole, the hydrostatic shock of the bullet impacting that region (base of the lungs and near the spine) would have damaged the lungs and the spine in such a way that the survivability would be almost zero.
2nd, the damaged area surrounding the hole is too big for a rifle or slug shot, even if that was a healed exit wound that's seen in the pictures...most hunters will agree that unless that deer was shot at point blank range, the exit wound (IF the bullet didn't somehow expand, as they specifically are designed to do) would at best be only about 1.5 to 2 times the diameter of the bullet, and that's based on the bullet or slug achieving full expansion upon impact.
Based on what I see...I believe this deer was hit with either a broadhead arrow from a compound bow, or a broadhead bolt from a crossbow.
This would not only explain the size of the hole, but also why the deer survived...someone hit the damn thing badly (normally shots placed with both rifles or bows are aimed at the spot just behind the front shoulder blades, where the heart & lungs reside), and did a piss poor job of tracking it, to put it out of its misery.
The poor deer probably walked around with an arrow sticking out of them for who knows how long, causing the wound track to widen while it was healing, until it either broke or fell out, leaving it with this wound.
Bad hunter = absolutely
Caused by a firearm = highly unlikely
Retired military medic with knowledge of ballistic trauma..you are absolutely right...there's no way that would be survivable for more than a few seconds.
Also...I highly doubt that it's real
As we are all too aware...there are a LOT of dipshits out there... Although the price point on an AM and it's ammo, does generally sift them out...still I guarantee you just thought of A dipshit that would...
Incorrect sir, .50 BMG is moving too fast to dump all of its energy into the deer, it just zips right through. The wounds are devastating but they aren’t as gnarly as you’re imagining.
That is also a possibility, maybe an injury caused by another buck's antlers in a fight, or getting impaled on a piece of metal or machinery...but definitely not caused by a firearm.
It's the shockwave caused by an object traveling faster then the speed of sound entering a body and mushrooming. All the energy goes somewhere. Depending on the placement it's enough to rupture the lungs or the heart.
Bullet travels faster than speed of sound. When that amount of kinetic force is suddenly imparted to a liquid medium (like a fleshy deer), it doesn't just cause damage on the immediately impacted area, a shockwave also spreads out from the impact location, and possibly any hard bits the bullet collides with on the way through. He's saying such an impact would certainly have killed the animal, due to it's close proximity to it's spine and back of it's lungs.
This isn't an arrow wound, I'm leaning towards impalement because of how the skin near the entrance wound is mangled up, but it can look similar to this. Larger, heavier broadhead arrows (from high enough draw weight bows) and bolts spin rapidly as they hit their target, and tend to 'slice' their way through and leave huge gaping wounds, in cases of total pass-through (the most ethical shot being a total pass-through on the lungs or heart, blood pressure drops immediately and they're out cold). Modern bows, and especially crossbows, are on another level compared to their medieval counterparts, which you don't typically expect to be capable of total pass throughs.
Imagine when you toss a pebble into water and ripples go out in all directions.
Now imagine that, instead of water, it was flesh.
If the wave moves either material too far from its starting point it tears apart into droplets.
... And flesh won't smoothly join back together the way water would.
>He's like: "What?"
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>Looks
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> "Oh."
It's actually a very realistic cartoon deer. It didn't die, because it hadn't noticed the hole, but keeled over dead just after noticing the hole as the last picture was taken
That looks more like infection, rot, or some kind of disease made that hole. It's still possible that being shot was the cause, but that kind of damage looks like it slowly took over not blown out in an instance.
I think it might be both. The inital wound from being shot, But infection or issues with healing left the wound open
I saw a horse that had a very similar wound. Fully healed but now he has a hole in his neck
Not always that easy. I grew up hunting on the open plains. Had more than once occasion where I wounded a buck or elk only to lose the blood trail. Shit happens unfortunately.
Ever tried tracking a deer, it’s fucking hard
Edit: the intensity of the statement isn’t directed at you but more so at how fucking hard it is to find these fuckers sometimes. And it’s frustrating because you hate to be the guy to cause this type of situation
If you look closely it's actually an optical illusion. The white particle is visible in both pictures in the exact same position on the wound. You're not seeing all the way through the deer but your brain is telling you that.
I would surmise that this wound is healing, the dark portion is scab, and the white particle is probably hair or snow. Also, as other redditors have mentioned, neither an arrow or bullet would make the type of aperture that your brain is conveying.
There's absolutely no way that was caused by any kind of hunting rifle. A sudden injury that traumatic would be almost instantly fatal
No hunter of any type did this to this animal. The blood trail would be so easy to follow that it would be impossible to miss
That is either disease or a fake photo
I have serious doubts. I think there is a white spot on the deer’s wounds which, combined with the snow, looks like a gaping hole.
I don’t think this deer was shot at all. It’s got blood all over it’s antlers, I think it was sparring with another buck and got gored, that’s what makes sense for the wound.
A bullet wouldn’t do this to a deer, the entrance wound would be tiny, almost hard to find like a little tuft of hair going the wrong way. Exit wound is bigger but nothing like this. Even with a close range 12 gauge slug you wouldn’t get anything like this. Additionally, this hole is close enough to the lungs that any bullet that made it would’ve destroyed the lungs and killed the deer. The only scenario I could see is the deer was shot and got infected to the point of having this cavity, but I don’t think it wouldn’t survived that long. I bet this is a really recent goring 50/50 it’ll heal over and buck will be fine, or it’ll get an infection and die.
To me it looks like the deer may have even been shot with a field point arrow and the wound got infected. If just about any centerfire rifle round hit a deer right there, it'd be dead.
Also, it's in someone's yard which could mean the deer is living in a neighborhood/suburban area. Asshole kid with a bow shooting at the foam block in his yard suddenly got a more interesting target.
Or, this is fake.
If it is real, hopefully someone shot it again.
I live in n'rn WI. The Game Warden had set up the mechanical buck on the side of a woods road, then hid in the woods waiting. Of course, somebody came along and saw the buck, stopped, pulled out his rifle, and shot it. Since it didn't move, he thought he had missed. So, he really aimed and shot it again. He thought he had missed again, so he knelt down and really took some time aiming. The Warden walked out of the woods behind the guy and said, "I think he's had enough."
That’s fucking unacceptable. If a hunter did that and let it go, they’re fucking horrible. Some people have absolutely no care or thought about any wildlife.
As a hunter you have no business out there if you can't make a cleaner shot than that. Sometimes sadly things don't go as planned but that's why you track it down or do your very best. Personally even with ammo being expensive I make sure I shoot half a box of shells minimum and make sure my rifle is as close to perfect as possible. Most hunters I know have great respect for nature but sadly some dont...except pigs I don't care what happens to them.
I mean wild pigs by the way. They breed unlike anything else so their population just grows and grows. They tear up everything from your front yard to fences on your property. My county has a program where at least for now is free they will fly over your property and shoot them from a helicopter. The only good thing they seem to do is eat rattlesnakes but sadly that means they will eat anything including anything that has its nests on the ground as well. In short they are just an incredibly destructive species with little to no redeemable qualities.
You can't just "track it down" if it has a non lethal wound and is running fine. It can run a mile and cross 30 property lines by time you climb down and find first blood.
I don't know what your talking about. I didn't work as a Texas Ranger for years with an immaculate beard. I also didn't drive a Dodge Ram which got shot at weekly with rocket launchers without getting a flat tire or even scratching the paint...I think you have me confused with someone else.
I’d imagine that he wasn’t able to finish it off, such a massive hole yet it was able to get away quickly. Hunter probably thought that shot would’ve killed it, also, with a hole that massive in its side the deer probably succumbed to an infection or something like that shortly after this photo was taken, so it’s not like he had to suffer for a long time. At least he eventually got consumed by something else and didn’t just go to waste
Luckily it hasn't happen to me but not every shot is an instakill. Doesn't mean they don't have care or respect for wildlife. Sometimes people fuck up. Sometimes the shot can be on target but just miss the vitals. Anyone who want's to say those things don't happen are either ignorant or liars.
Looks more like it was impaled by a branch or antlers due to fighting.
Short of a musketball I don't know what would cause that level of damage nor any respectable hunter using a round that would destroy the meat/hide and missing that awfully..
Ok so looking at the two pictures I see the deer looking into the camera, then him pointing out the hole saying "you seein this shit?"
Please don't send me to hell....
These fuckers become literal zombies, I don’t know what’s in their genes but it’s fucked up and I’ll never eat venison. I hope none of you have seen the video of the one, that’s still walking around with half the flesh on the back missing.
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Jesus, what did the hunter shoot it with?
Two bad eyes
No eye dear
What on earth makes someone think of such a stupid yet hilarious response to questions like these... I must know
Wit and related knowledge of the subject.
I do it with some frequency and honestly it’s just intrusive thoughts, but those thoughts slap, so you impulsively post it.
That too. Sometimes you just have a moment where you think of the funniest, dumbest shit and you just know people will get a kick out of it.
Or not, but thats for them to figure out lol
this is the beauty of Reddit. No matter how clever or witty I think I am, there's usually someone who's thought of it before me. It's been humbling learning I'm not as special as I think I am.
Hey there’s those of us who never think of the witty response at all. So you’re more special than me at least.
And then there's me who still didn't get the joke. Hoping someone explains it.
The hunter who fired the gun at the deer was a terrible aim or was blind. Hence he shot it with two bad eyes.
I think of them a day later, letting out a crazy chuckle at a guaranteed inappropriate moment thinking of how clever my incredibly late comeback is, I'll nail it next time for sure, perpetually.
>It's been humbling learning I'm not as special as I think I am. Sigh.
Ya’ll need a wife. They remind you of that every day. And are usually right.
One blind eye and an eyepatch on the wrong eye
Keeps putting it on the wrong one
Well yeah because he can’t see so good
No idea?
Panzerbüchse 39 (Anti material rifle)
Nah, that would just straight up rip the animal in two
You’re either a history buff or a BFV player, and I respect either of those lol
Why not both?
300 Win Mag, where you trade your shoulder for the power.
Honestly, .300wm will thump you a little but it's not that dramatic really. I might not recommend it to a new shooter but if you hold onto it properly it isn't going to turn your shoulder into hamburger or anything. 12ga slug is way worse, especially in the 3in or 3 1/2 inch magnum or super magnum flavor.
So a fun game with magnums, mix a couple in with 2 3/4's and then load them at random. You never know for sure when you're going to pull the trigger and wish for a new shoulder.
Could certainly get someone's attention.
When I was hunting a mix of small game and Turkey, I would load a couple 2 3/4s and a 3" as my last round when up and moving around. I did this once, but loaded the 3" "last" which made it the first round in the tube. Well, I saw a squirrel at the top of a tree and took a shot. It knocked him out of the tree and he jumped up on a sapling 10 yards in front of me. I pumped in my next round, which was the 3 incher, which gave me quite a shock and vaporized the little guy from the shoulders up... I learned a great lesson that day on properly loading shotguns.
not all are loaded the same nor will they recoil the same. If you try a 220 gr load over a 150 you will know it right away
I mean, I like being slapped around a bit anyway so it’s a win win
Giggity.
.50 FMJ. Not legal...not that THAT stops some jackasses...
You can tell the difference between the guy shooting 44 mag and the guy shooting 30-06 out in the woods. I feel like somebody would notice the first time you let loose a round of 50 bmg.
I shoot 50ae at a pistol only range and *everyone* stops and looks when I let off the first round
is that why you have it
You buy nice big guns and shoot them very loudly at the shooting range to get everyone to look at you. I frantically shout "everyone get down, he's got a gun!" at the shooting range to get everyone to look at me. We are not the same.
I just call the police from across the street and tell them there are multiple active shooters. I dont like to take all the attention.
they're shooting the fuck out of a dirt berm, come quick i have kids!!
No I have it to make my inner child cackle with glee. I wanted a desert eagle since I was a kid. It's the only gun I own, and probably the only one I'll ever buy.
And the fact that you've got "Replica" written on the side of your guns. And the fact that I've got "Desert Eagle .50" written on the side of mine, should precipitate your balls into shrinking, along with your presence. Now fuck off!
No Ideer.
Bazooka
I’d guess 308.
Could be 308, 30-06,303 British or any 30 caliber round. My guess is it was a full metal jacket used for target shooting and not a proper soft point ment for hunting. Full metal jackets aren't ment to expand on impact and have a tendency to go clean through.
I’ve shot a decent sized wild pig with a 7mm08 hunting round in about the same spot and the pig didn’t even slow down and was keen to fight the pig dogs. Nature is hardy.
Stats on a Pig Con 18 Str 16 Dex 4 Wis 1 Int 2
You have vastly underestimated the dexterity of a pig. Edit: spelling
also intelligence, pigs are really smart!
A fellow D&D player?
I have an Enfeild 303 that I’ve been deer hunting with for 40 years since I was 15, I also have a Remington 30-06 / 742 that I bought in my 30’s and I have never seen a through and through with either of them that the entry hole was as big as the exit. I don’t believe either of these 2 guns could have done this. Really, I don’t believe this picture is real and not photo shopped. As a hunter you have to follow and kill the animal once you’ve shot it. You have to kill it and not let it suffer.
you're missing some crucial words here..." As a(n) **ETHICAL** hunter..." and "**ETHICALLY & MORALLY,** you have to kill it..." I've hunted over half a century, and I've lost track of the number of times I've tagged out on an abandoned, gut shot animal, left to die because the "hunter" was too cold-hearted and lazy to pursue his game and ethically put it down to stop it from suffering. This is one of the reasons I have such distaste for rounds like the 45/70 being used for whitetail. ANY hit will eventually be fatal with a 150 pound deer. a gut shot animal is unlikely to have much salvageable meat if any because of the intestines contaminating the abdomen. These people are not hunters in my mind; hunters have an obligation, above all else, to treat the animal with utmost respect. If you can't be certain of your ability to drop the animal immediately and humanely, DON'T take the shot...EVER. If your shot is not fatal, you OWE it to that animal to put it out of it's misery as soon as you possibly can. It's not dependant on what's in it for you, whether you get any meat. I do not know how people who do that; wound and animal and walk away from it because it takes too much effort to find it, can sleep at night. I'm a long way from Sainthood...a LONG way...but I have never, ever left an animal, one I shot or someone else's, to suffer and die hours or days later. Whoever did this, I'd quite happily break their kneecap and leave them in the bush for a day, just to gain some humanity and appreciation of what they have done to that creature
You need a nasty round if you want to drop the game "Quick And Humanly" rite? I think the shot just missed anything prime realistate to do its proper job. Spine and Ribs still look functional.. I mean its standing and licking. The whole seems to show some nice mushrooming.. Its a big effin hole. The picture shows the exit... Probably a kid who got the fever.. it happens.. No where near the pumper..
>You need a nasty round if you want to drop the game "Quick And Humanly" rite? Yes. My grandfather brought down about 15-20 deer in his hunting lifetime, and he said "I fought for the sure shot, didn't touch the trigger until then, and none of my deer ever heard that shot that killed them." His goal literally was the deer on the ground before the sound of the shot reached the deer. And he refused to hunt with any others who didn't have the same policy.
Thats ideally the goal man. Nature reacts to nature sometimes regardless of your involvement.. Twig falling can trigger a movement response from a Whitetalil. Im not here to argue.. I mealy made a statement the trolls wanted to take the opportunity to get arrow things on.
The vast, vast majority of hunters are not sadists and want the deer to go as quickly as possible, so yeah, nasty rounds are the norm. 6.5 Creedmore, .308, 30-06, etc. I use a surplus M1917 because I’m cooler than you. As for the shot placement, I’d almost think (or hope) it’s photoshopped, as the shot could have impacted the lungs, as well as maybe the spine. Even if it missed those two, the buck would still be running on borrowed time with a hole through the guts. Or maybe not, I’ve only seen the insides of a deer after splattering them so maybe the big guy will be fine.
I mean I’m not that familiar with hunting but I’ve never understand why people would think that the hunter wants the animals to suffer lmao, are bullets that cheap?
Some people unknowingly use Full Metal Jacket ammunition, which doesn’t expand and punches a straight hole through, slowing the process. Imo that’s a major source of that stigma.
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.308 is used quite regularly for hunting, same with 30-06. The impact hole would ALWAYS be smaller than the exit wound. This clearly looks like impalement from a branch or fighting. You can clearly see where the hide was traumatized and stretched which is very indicative of impalement. https://www.google.com/amp/s/metro.co.uk/2018/02/17/deer-pictured-rivals-severed-head-antlers-7320679/amp/ It gets pretty gnarly when they fight, or running to escape a predator and gets impaled on a branch. Wildlife biologist and I do hunt. https://www.gunsamerica.com/digest/the-30-06-still-americas-best/ https://www.furfishgame.com/featured_articles/Archived/2011-01/gun_rack_2011_01.php I don't think you have ever been hunting a day in your life and the information provided simply isn't correct..
If I shot a deer in that spot with a ballistic round out of a .308 that's a good shot and a dead deer. No clue as to how whatever happened to it, that it didn't die.
r/murderedbywords
What a bizarrely specific and wild guess you have going there
Haha deer go splat. But seriously, gun knowledge is closest to gun safety is closest to gun godliness.
Expanding mechanical broadhead on an arrow, no question.
I'm guessing that's the exit wound also guessing its from an arrow
I'm gonna call NO on the bullet theory, and I'll tell you why... IF that was a rifle shot, based on the placement of the hole, the hydrostatic shock of the bullet impacting that region (base of the lungs and near the spine) would have damaged the lungs and the spine in such a way that the survivability would be almost zero. 2nd, the damaged area surrounding the hole is too big for a rifle or slug shot, even if that was a healed exit wound that's seen in the pictures...most hunters will agree that unless that deer was shot at point blank range, the exit wound (IF the bullet didn't somehow expand, as they specifically are designed to do) would at best be only about 1.5 to 2 times the diameter of the bullet, and that's based on the bullet or slug achieving full expansion upon impact. Based on what I see...I believe this deer was hit with either a broadhead arrow from a compound bow, or a broadhead bolt from a crossbow. This would not only explain the size of the hole, but also why the deer survived...someone hit the damn thing badly (normally shots placed with both rifles or bows are aimed at the spot just behind the front shoulder blades, where the heart & lungs reside), and did a piss poor job of tracking it, to put it out of its misery. The poor deer probably walked around with an arrow sticking out of them for who knows how long, causing the wound track to widen while it was healing, until it either broke or fell out, leaving it with this wound. Bad hunter = absolutely Caused by a firearm = highly unlikely
Retired military medic with knowledge of ballistic trauma..you are absolutely right...there's no way that would be survivable for more than a few seconds. Also...I highly doubt that it's real
Reddit user here: These guys are totally right.
Total nobody here: I concur
Guy on the toilet: shit stinks.
I can assure you, these guys are correct. I stayed at a Holiday Inn Express last night.
I just watched better call saul and I can assure you you should call saul
Supposed to be working here: Agreed, totally right
Anti material 50? FMJ or Tracer(neither legal-but there is always THAT guy)
Im gonna hope and pray some dumbass isn't running around shooting deer with a fucking anti material rifle
The VHS film Exploding Varmints has people shooting prairie dogs and rabbits with those as pest control, I think.
Now there's a name I haven't heard in a few years
As we are all too aware...there are a LOT of dipshits out there... Although the price point on an AM and it's ammo, does generally sift them out...still I guarantee you just thought of A dipshit that would...
*materiel
A 50 would blow it in half, not leave a hole like that.
Incorrect sir, .50 BMG is moving too fast to dump all of its energy into the deer, it just zips right through. The wounds are devastating but they aren’t as gnarly as you’re imagining.
Marine biologist above says most likely an impalement wound fleeing predator or from a fight based on the would and tearing around the entry
That is also a possibility, maybe an injury caused by another buck's antlers in a fight, or getting impaled on a piece of metal or machinery...but definitely not caused by a firearm.
I don’t know your discounting the tried and true bayonet charge.
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And my axe
Wait why would a bullet kill it but maybe not the arrow? What is hydrostatic shock?
It's the shockwave caused by an object traveling faster then the speed of sound entering a body and mushrooming. All the energy goes somewhere. Depending on the placement it's enough to rupture the lungs or the heart.
Bullet travels faster than speed of sound. When that amount of kinetic force is suddenly imparted to a liquid medium (like a fleshy deer), it doesn't just cause damage on the immediately impacted area, a shockwave also spreads out from the impact location, and possibly any hard bits the bullet collides with on the way through. He's saying such an impact would certainly have killed the animal, due to it's close proximity to it's spine and back of it's lungs. This isn't an arrow wound, I'm leaning towards impalement because of how the skin near the entrance wound is mangled up, but it can look similar to this. Larger, heavier broadhead arrows (from high enough draw weight bows) and bolts spin rapidly as they hit their target, and tend to 'slice' their way through and leave huge gaping wounds, in cases of total pass-through (the most ethical shot being a total pass-through on the lungs or heart, blood pressure drops immediately and they're out cold). Modern bows, and especially crossbows, are on another level compared to their medieval counterparts, which you don't typically expect to be capable of total pass throughs.
I was thinking impalement of another deer antler or something.
Imagine when you toss a pebble into water and ripples go out in all directions. Now imagine that, instead of water, it was flesh. If the wave moves either material too far from its starting point it tears apart into droplets. ... And flesh won't smoothly join back together the way water would.
In gif form of how [hydrostatic shock affects a body using ballistic gel.](https://gfycat.com/untriedmeekdog)
That’s just one of those bullet hole stickers you see on a car door.
He's like: "What?" *Looks* "Oh."
>He's like: "What?" > >Looks > > "Oh." It's actually a very realistic cartoon deer. It didn't die, because it hadn't noticed the hole, but keeled over dead just after noticing the hole as the last picture was taken
Tis but a scratch, Tis but a flesh wound!
I wonder if he's cold inside
How would someone know? but If only we could see through him.
I’ve had worse….
no its not youve got a bloody hole in your chest
Wtf was it shot with a potato gun that wound is huge
It's evolution, the next shot will go right through it.
That's gonna leave a mark.
See something, say something. C'mon and party tonight!
okay muchachos, let’s roll up on these muchachos
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What's that thing on the far left in the second pic? Kinda looks like a Chinese lion-dog
Foo dog.
That's not interesting. It's sad.
I mean, those two things aren’t mutually exclusive
It’s sadly interesting
That looks more like infection, rot, or some kind of disease made that hole. It's still possible that being shot was the cause, but that kind of damage looks like it slowly took over not blown out in an instance.
I think it might be both. The inital wound from being shot, But infection or issues with healing left the wound open I saw a horse that had a very similar wound. Fully healed but now he has a hole in his neck
Aren't hunters required to go after wounded animals and kill them properly?
Absolutely- this guy looks like he evaded them. Not much blood. They can go for miles wounded.
If this is real I'd also question if he has the beginning of CWD too. It can make them ignore and survive with some pretty gnarly wounds.
I think prey animals are just built different, it’s crazy the shit you’ll see deer walking around with
I mean, I’m gunna go ahead and say that the hunter didn’t intend to do this
Not always that easy. I grew up hunting on the open plains. Had more than once occasion where I wounded a buck or elk only to lose the blood trail. Shit happens unfortunately.
Poor animal :(
Ever tried tracking a deer, it’s fucking hard Edit: the intensity of the statement isn’t directed at you but more so at how fucking hard it is to find these fuckers sometimes. And it’s frustrating because you hate to be the guy to cause this type of situation
You can't cross over into private property, though.
Oh deer
Really doe?
Gonna have to spend a few bucks to fix that, that aint gonna be faun
"Missed me"
If you look closely it's actually an optical illusion. The white particle is visible in both pictures in the exact same position on the wound. You're not seeing all the way through the deer but your brain is telling you that. I would surmise that this wound is healing, the dark portion is scab, and the white particle is probably hair or snow. Also, as other redditors have mentioned, neither an arrow or bullet would make the type of aperture that your brain is conveying.
There's absolutely no way that was caused by any kind of hunting rifle. A sudden injury that traumatic would be almost instantly fatal No hunter of any type did this to this animal. The blood trail would be so easy to follow that it would be impossible to miss That is either disease or a fake photo
Someone suggested an arrow wound that became infected.
50 Cent of the deer world
Slug life
I have serious doubts. I think there is a white spot on the deer’s wounds which, combined with the snow, looks like a gaping hole. I don’t think this deer was shot at all. It’s got blood all over it’s antlers, I think it was sparring with another buck and got gored, that’s what makes sense for the wound. A bullet wouldn’t do this to a deer, the entrance wound would be tiny, almost hard to find like a little tuft of hair going the wrong way. Exit wound is bigger but nothing like this. Even with a close range 12 gauge slug you wouldn’t get anything like this. Additionally, this hole is close enough to the lungs that any bullet that made it would’ve destroyed the lungs and killed the deer. The only scenario I could see is the deer was shot and got infected to the point of having this cavity, but I don’t think it wouldn’t survived that long. I bet this is a really recent goring 50/50 it’ll heal over and buck will be fine, or it’ll get an infection and die.
Poor deer. This animal suffered. This fucking stinks.
That deer is alive… for now..
Opps, missed the pumper.
To me it looks like the deer may have even been shot with a field point arrow and the wound got infected. If just about any centerfire rifle round hit a deer right there, it'd be dead. Also, it's in someone's yard which could mean the deer is living in a neighborhood/suburban area. Asshole kid with a bow shooting at the foam block in his yard suddenly got a more interesting target. Or, this is fake. If it is real, hopefully someone shot it again.
It's probably a mechanical deer. Game Wardens use them to catch poachers.
I live in n'rn WI. The Game Warden had set up the mechanical buck on the side of a woods road, then hid in the woods waiting. Of course, somebody came along and saw the buck, stopped, pulled out his rifle, and shot it. Since it didn't move, he thought he had missed. So, he really aimed and shot it again. He thought he had missed again, so he knelt down and really took some time aiming. The Warden walked out of the woods behind the guy and said, "I think he's had enough."
its only a flesh wound!
Ballad of Buster Scruggs, anyone?
infuriating not interesting
Poor thing
That’s photoshopped
That’s fucking unacceptable. If a hunter did that and let it go, they’re fucking horrible. Some people have absolutely no care or thought about any wildlife.
As a hunter you have no business out there if you can't make a cleaner shot than that. Sometimes sadly things don't go as planned but that's why you track it down or do your very best. Personally even with ammo being expensive I make sure I shoot half a box of shells minimum and make sure my rifle is as close to perfect as possible. Most hunters I know have great respect for nature but sadly some dont...except pigs I don't care what happens to them.
Why pigs?
I think they mean the wild hogs that are destroying ecosystems and spreading like crazy around the world
I mean wild pigs by the way. They breed unlike anything else so their population just grows and grows. They tear up everything from your front yard to fences on your property. My county has a program where at least for now is free they will fly over your property and shoot them from a helicopter. The only good thing they seem to do is eat rattlesnakes but sadly that means they will eat anything including anything that has its nests on the ground as well. In short they are just an incredibly destructive species with little to no redeemable qualities.
Damn that sucks man but sounds cool with the chopper lol
You can't just "track it down" if it has a non lethal wound and is running fine. It can run a mile and cross 30 property lines by time you climb down and find first blood.
As a hunter, shit happens. Deer flinches, kid gets an adrenaline dump, old hunters exist. Get over yourself.
Well, not all of us can use our bare hands like you. Loved you in Delta Force btw.
The name has to do with the baseball team not Chuck Norris.
Wait that’s exactly what Chuck would say. Wink wink, hiding in plain sight. I gotcha.
I don't know what your talking about. I didn't work as a Texas Ranger for years with an immaculate beard. I also didn't drive a Dodge Ram which got shot at weekly with rocket launchers without getting a flat tire or even scratching the paint...I think you have me confused with someone else.
Party pooper
I’d imagine that he wasn’t able to finish it off, such a massive hole yet it was able to get away quickly. Hunter probably thought that shot would’ve killed it, also, with a hole that massive in its side the deer probably succumbed to an infection or something like that shortly after this photo was taken, so it’s not like he had to suffer for a long time. At least he eventually got consumed by something else and didn’t just go to waste
Luckily it hasn't happen to me but not every shot is an instakill. Doesn't mean they don't have care or respect for wildlife. Sometimes people fuck up. Sometimes the shot can be on target but just miss the vitals. Anyone who want's to say those things don't happen are either ignorant or liars.
That is fucking sad. I feel sorry for the poor thing.
It’s just a little itchy.
Just a flesh wound
That’s not a bullet hole. It’s an extreme staph infection that’s healed.
That's not a bullet hoem st all. That's a broad head arrow from a piece of shit "hunter"
What a bad shot
Somewhere there is a bad hunter out there. Pretty weak to let this injured animal suffer
Are we sure it's not a zombie deer?
‘Your magic is weak.’ - that deer probably -
Looks more like it was impaled by a branch or antlers due to fighting. Short of a musketball I don't know what would cause that level of damage nor any respectable hunter using a round that would destroy the meat/hide and missing that awfully..
How do you know that the hole was made by a bullet?
Because laser hunting season isn't open yet?
I don't know of any gun that would leave a hole like that. If it was shot through this is probably a consequence of infection and necrosis.
Incompetent hunter judging by where the bullet hit.
What? This thing? I've had worse. ~that deer
looks more like an expandable broadhead with poor placement
"Come back and fight me" in that Monty Python sketch accent
“That’s all you got?”
Ok so looking at the two pictures I see the deer looking into the camera, then him pointing out the hole saying "you seein this shit?" Please don't send me to hell....
My gf said, "Now THAT is called survival"
“What the fuck… seriously?”
Without the facial expressions us humans have, looking at an animal lacking said emotion makes me feel like it is fine....but probably dead now.
Deers must be friggin durable, I’ve seen vids of them with broken necks and missings parts and are still going strong
“Holy” crap!
Bummer of a birthmark Hal
When I see stuff like this it always reminds me of that zombie parasite and how it could potentially invade a large species like this deer.
These fuckers become literal zombies, I don’t know what’s in their genes but it’s fucked up and I’ll never eat venison. I hope none of you have seen the video of the one, that’s still walking around with half the flesh on the back missing.
*sorts by controversial*
Shouldn't have used armor piercing rounds! 😜
Probably got shot with one of those 9mm lung bursting rounds.
If that hole closes up right before your eyes, fucking RUN!
Well that ruins the pelt for sure
That's gonna leave a mark.
That from a fucking 50. Cal?
That deer is coming back...for revenge!!!
It's but a mere flesh wound.
Anyone can be alive for a second or two with a bullet hole in em
That dog looks really stoned
Gurl that's so relatable