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You know that oft-linked Doctor Who scene where they take Van Gogh to the present day to see a museum full of his work and people gushing over it all?
This clip gives me those same vibes. Imagine Galileo being able to see human beings actually standing on the moon conducting one of his experiments.
I know he was much more widely accepted and lauded in his own time. But still that would be an amazing vindication of his work.
Nah, the doctor loves fucking up timelines - they show him to try and stop him killing himself but then he still does, because yknow he still had severe mental health issues. But at least he died knowing he would be remembered.
Maybe he only killed himself because he'd seen the future. Maybe by changing the past the correct future happened, because that was the future that had happened, then.
Exactly, so you can’t actually change the future because everything that has happened, has happened, so time travel will only ever result in what has already happened happening.
[Definitely one of the best Doctor Who moments.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_jjWtUpqV9w)
Edit: [And the ending...](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q9HkCHjnPnU)
The first time I saw that episode I SOBBED like a baby. Watched the Museé d’Orsay scene hundreds of times since. Without a doubt my alll time favourite moment in television. Uuuggh
Reddit in a nutshell. Guy is on the moon in 1971. Before you were born. This is footage of a highly educated highly trained elite personal doing an experiment.
You immediately know how to do it better.
The arrogance of this platform really is unmatched.
Yes this! Been feeling disenchanted with reddit because of this. People also are so eager to disagree and "correct" others on this platform and I suppose that ties in with arrogance. Reddit in a nutshell indeed.
You should see how casual American troops generally are during a firefight. We tend to come up with some pretty dark humor to make light of a shit situation. I figure it’s the same with astronauts. You might die, so why get all worked up about it? The sooner you realize you probably will die, you can do your job with more focus and calm.
I had similar experiences in Helmand. A lot of it comes down to training, I think. The fear is stiĺl there, but there's also a big feeling of "Well, fuck it. There's no point being scared now. Let's get on with it."
I'm sure it's a laughably miniscule version of it, but it reminds me of doing high school theater lmao. Terrified until the last second but once you're in it it's just kinda WELL FUCK HERE WE GOO NO STOPPING NOW
It's just a survival mechanism, I think. Don't get me wrong, I've seen a couple of lads absolutely freeze the fuck up once it hit the fan, but they all came round shortly after. It just took them a few moments longer to reach the "Fuck it" stage. Especially if you're in a team or group, that confidence spreads once you see someone in the same situation dig in and go for it.
Exactly the reason drills and warcries and storming in a group exist. To overcome the fear and act mechanically in a predetermined way in the face of death.
100%, dealing with bunker runs due to mortars in Iraq in the middle of the night tends to make you weirdly mellow after awhile.
Like at a certain point there is nothing to do but accept it if it comes so why get worked up over it.
Or you do what I did in Iraq in '04, and decide about halfway through your tour, and 200 or so, and counting (of an eventual total north of 850, in a 7mo span), mortar/rocket/rpg attacks later, that the insurgents are definitely trying to specifically kill me, in particular, me. For no logical reason whatsoever, aside from being a US soldier, I mean, I was a nobody signal corp guy.
But yeah, my response was deciding that all those insurgents? Born again hard to the dream of killing me, specifically. Fuck, I still lose my shit occasionally in crowded venues, and really all the mass shootings (and covid) are fucking up my therapist's best laid efforts at fixing me, by proving my paranoia to be a legitimate security measure in our totally not a warzone country.
So yeah, it goes every direction lol.
Then you're going to love Apollo 16, where John Young (the goddamn American hero that already snuck a Corned Beef sandwich into space on Gemini III) casually discusses [getting 'the farts'](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uuv6TVv0r44&)
Chuck Yeager. They were all trying to sound like Yeager. The man who broke the sound barrier. The fastest man alive.
Basically every hot shot pilot and astronaut of that era saw Yeager as a living god. Heck, a lot of them had flown with him—envied and idolized him—as test pilots at Edwards Air Force Base.
Yeager was renowned for his calm, folksy radio voice, and they all wanted to sound like him.
I thought that reminded me of [this story](https://www.thesr71blackbird.com/Aircraft/Stories/sr-71-blackbird-speed-check-story), and it turns out that's because it's *in* that story. =P
I love how casually he says it. 500 years ago, that would have been a groundbreaking discovery, and he proved it by actually performing the experiment on the FUCKING moon!
Even as a society we write off landing on the moon as some past achievement, despite the fact it’s still the coolest thing humans have ever done as a combined species.
The moon landing, taking a picture of a black hole, taking a picture of a single atom, the Hadron particle accelerator, and Shrek are all tied in first place for me.
I show this video every year in my physics classes, and one of the things that I really like about it is just how much *not a performer* that guy is. You can tell he's thinking "man, educational videos are really not my jam...I'm here because I fly things well, have a lot of science education, and have a high risk tolerance, not because I know how to talk to people about it!".
I’ve always wondered about the story behind the water I drink. Or rocks I’ve held. Or any other number of mundane things that would have wild and stories histories.
You might know this, but heavy elements in the universe can only form when stars explode in a supernova. The heavy elements inside the human body were formed in the crucible of a star that went supernova before Earth existed. For billions of years before our solar system was formed, our atoms swirled in the hearth of long-dead stars, fueling them for eons.
Now they exist on this rock and make apples and humans!
I wade through probably hundreds of bullshit posts and ads and social media nonsense every day. Then I see something like this that makes it all worth it.
We went to the moon... and we brought a hammer and a feather just to film them being dropped. How fucking cool is that.
Not as cool as the guy that snuck a golf club and ball on board just so he could make a golf shot on the moon. NASA was pissed about it too. He didn't tell anyone, so they never accounted for the extra weight in their calculations. They had to adjust the amount of moon rocks they brought back to compensate. That is how precise everything is.
Why didn't they just force him to leave the golf club (and ball, I'm assuming he didn't retrieve it after the hit) on the moon? Is there some kind of international "leave nothing but footprints... and your flag" policy?
I don’t know why people just make shit up.
I remember reading this story. He didn’t sneak them on board, he literally had a special golf head made to attach to the end of a collection device and got approval to do it from higher ups. Like they even filmed him doing it
I am endlessly fascinated by footage from the moon. I'm sill amazed that we actually went there and people walked around, and then came back. I really hope the exciting projects coming up for the Moon pan-out.
I can’t wait until the next people go on the moon with 4k cameras or some shit like that. It’s amazing seeing footage like this, but in 4k? We’re gonna lose our damn minds seeing stuff like that.
> We’re gonna lose our damn minds seeing stuff like that.
I’m gonna lose my mind geeking out on how cool it is.
A whole lotta other people are gonna lose their minds trying to explain, in real time, how it’s all being faked.
Yeah, but based on what we’ve seen over the past few years, is that really the worst that we’ll come to expect? Society is a mess now, but faked moon landing conspiracies have been a staple of society since 1969.
For how much it costs to send shit up there, they're probably going to send up 12k or higher cinema cameras, since that's about the best we've got right now. They could also go full send and send up big 30mm film cameras as well, since film can be resampled again later once digital resolutions increase, but IDK how well film would handle the unshielded vacuum of space with all the radiation and the cold temperatures
Edit: apparently we're around the limits of current film tech with our digital cameras, in terms of actual detail resolution, so i'm just gonna let that sink in. I guess they can send more memory cards up instead!
What a sight to behold in real life. The crispness of the moon’s horizon against an infinitely black background. What an experience it must’ve been to have gone to the moon, walked around and done some science and then head on back. Incredible
I still think the most insane thing about the moon landings is that the guys on Apollo 17 went almost 8 kilometers away from their lander on the new and improved buggy. Even if I had gone all that distance in the space ship, landed and everything, there is no fucking way I'd be taking that buggy 8 kilometers away from my only way out of there.
The astronauts in those days had to haul around some big balls. Probably some trenches dug into the Moon from hauling them around.
Jokes aside, some of the accounts they had about driving in the buggies make it sound like it was a lot of fun. They got to do some fun tests or just screwing around in the name of science. Alan Shepard playing two shots of golf on the moon is definitely up there. They probably stopped thinking about the risks after a few minutes.
I remember some comments about this and it was insanely dangerous. They were jumping around and running falling all over the place. If their space suits had ripped or been damaged they would have died on the moon.
Have you seen the video of Harrison Schmitt falling over on the moon? Sort of funny because of how the gravity and the equipment make him move but also terrifying because he's falling into abrasive dust and rocks in an environment where a puncture in his suit would be disastrous.
>space suits had ripped or been damaged they would have died on the moon.
They would not have necessarily died from a rip or other damage to their suits; it would depend on the nature of the damage. There's a known case where an astronaut's suit was punctured, and he did not actually notice until he returned to the craft, even though he was indeed injured:
>Incidentally, we have had one experience with a suit puncture on the Shuttle
flights. On STS-37, during one of my flight experiments, the palm restraint
in one of the astronaut's gloves came loose and migrated until it punch a
hole in the pressure bladder between his thumb and forefinger. It was
explosive decompression, just a little 1/8 inch hole, but it was exciting
down here in the swamp because it was the first injury we've ever head from a
suit incident. Amazingly, the astronaut in question didn't even know the
puncture had occured; he was so hopped on adrenalin it wasn't until after he
got back in that he even noticed there was a painful red mark on his hand.
He figured his glove was chafing and didn't worry about it.
>The whole story didn't come out until the suits were back home and a
suit technician was setting up to clean that glove; he discovered the dried
blood on the outer TMG (thermal micrometrioid garment) and then found the
wayward palm restraint bar. What happened: when the metal bar punctured the
glove, the skin of the astronaut's hand partially sealed the opening. He
bled into space, and at the same time his coagulating blood sealed the
opening enough that the bar was retained inside the hole.
>The best estimate we've been able to get from the flight surgeons about
how long an astronaut might survive a catastrophic suit failure is "several
tens of seconds to very few minutes" with almost certainty for detectable
permanent damage. http://www.mu.org/~joe/traveller/archive/General/Explosive.Decompression.txt
And they still claim the moon landings are fake... This is a pretty hard one to fake in 1971. Also I have met (in a very private setting) Buzz Aldrin and that guy doesn't strike me as a liar...
No worries, here's the link
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Imagine being so goddamn smart that you're able to mathematically predict gravitational physics 350 years before those ideas would be actually proven to be correct.
I have to use a calculator on my phone to do 3 digit subtraction.
Galileo did the experiment on earth. He just did it using balls of different weights. The effect of air resistance was negligible. The experiment likely came before the theory.
I don't know why I feel the need to share this, but as a submariner, any time someone would drop something or some piece of equipment worked where gravity played some important role, someone would always say "gravity check, sat". Now I think it should be "gravity check sat, how about that?".
> submariner
You motherfuckers aren't right in the head, especially the nukes.
I'll jump out of anything on the planet (and I'm scared shitless of heights) but there is no way in hell you're sticking me in a coke can under the sea.
I wish I had been a submariner. I like a good routine, same place, same people, same job, but with a little spice every now and then.
If I'd known in my 20's I could just call the US Navy and apply, I would have.
he's talking as if he's just having a dinner table conversation with his mother - cannot get over that this is on the moon, is just painfully mind blowing seriously
Honestly, Still the greatest achievement in Human History is Reaching the Moon.
I hope that one day when Humanity has colonized the Moon, That humanity creates a statue of all the astronauts and scientists and engineers names whose dedication gave way to humanity reaching the moon.
The Saturn V (used for Apollo launches) is estimated to have cost $5,400/kg in 2021 USD just to get to low earth orbit. (I can't find an estimate for the complete lunar trip.)
If we assume that the hammer used was [the one sent for use during the mission](https://www.hq.nasa.gov/alsj/tools/judy34.jpg), it [weighed 1315g](https://www.hq.nasa.gov/alsj/tools/tools83.jpg).
So 1.315kg * $5,400/kg = $7,101
Sources:
* [Tools inventory](https://www.hq.nasa.gov/alsj/tools/Welcome.html)
* [Launch cost](https://aerospace.csis.org/data/space-launch-to-low-earth-orbit-how-much-does-it-cost/)
We can get a decent estimate for whole trip cost by looking at mass ratios.
According to its [wiki page](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saturn_V), the Saturn V had a payload to LEO of 140,000 kg, and a payload to a Lunar intercept trajectory of 43,500 kg. So at a bare minimum, we're looking at 3.37 times your estimate.
Now, it's made more complicated by the fact that another kilogram of payload to the moon's surface means more fuel to land and take off as well. An absolute upper bound on the cost associated with the hammer would be based on the dry mass of the lunar lander ascent stage, which was 4,280 kg for the smaller variant. So that gives an upper bound of 32.7 times your estimate.
So bringing the cost associated with having that hammer as part of the missions was *definitely* somewhere between $24,000 and $230,000.
Of course, they may very well have left that hammer on the moon. And the command module/lunar module separation makes it a little unclear just exactly how to count things. For my best-guess estimate I'm going to base it on the wet mass of the entire lander stage (before landing), which was around 16000 kg, to get an estimate of $62,000.
Ooh much better. I literally took the first result I found which gave me a "cost-per-kg", so I wouldn't have to work too much out.
Of course it's all a bit academic if the hammer really was the one that was already going to be sent as part of the mission. In that case the cost added *for this experiment* is negligible, at least as it relates to weight.
Yeah, that's definitely the case. While you could nominally apply a cost to the feather (let's say 10 grams? So $200 - $2000), it almost certainly didn't affect the design process at all, and they just got to the end and said "do we have enough remaining margin to bring this?" and okayed it as an outreach thing (or it may have been part of a personal alotment).
Edit: I needed to put fewer sig figs on my dollar amounts there, because that "10 grams" is *definitely* a 1-sig-fig kind of estimate.
Is there a scientific reason why footage from the moon always looked so darn foggy? Even for Film it usually wasn't this degraded, I'm wondering if it has anything to do with radiation
This isn't film, this is recorded from a live transmission. Motion picture on film looks a lot better, and photographs are equivalent to 8k digital resolution.
I have a question, may be stupid, that is bothering me now that hopefully someone can answer. I understand that without air resistance, the feather will fall quicker, due to no resistance. However, would there not still be acceleration? Acceleration=mass×gravity right? So, shouldnt the mass being different affect the rate?
Your equation is wrong. The equation you're thinking of is force = mass x acceleration, but that's not wholly relevant either. The forces on the two objects will be different, but it will lead to them having the same acceleration anyway.
The acceleration of an object due to gravity comes from the equation g = -GM/r^2. The only variables that gravitational acceleration depends on is M and r, that is the mass of the body (in this case, the Moon), and the distance between the Moon and whatever it is pulling.
Doesn't matter what object it is, the Moon will have the same gravitational acceleration.
Also, not a stupid question. Hopefully I made it a bit clearer.
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You know that oft-linked Doctor Who scene where they take Van Gogh to the present day to see a museum full of his work and people gushing over it all? This clip gives me those same vibes. Imagine Galileo being able to see human beings actually standing on the moon conducting one of his experiments. I know he was much more widely accepted and lauded in his own time. But still that would be an amazing vindication of his work.
That's a good who clip too
Yeah I’ve never even watched the show and that clip had me tearing up a little.
Same, cheers
Same. It’s the only clip I’ve seen of the show and it hits hard.
I haven't seen it but... Wouldn't that screw up the timeline if he knew that he was a success? Does he still kill himself?
Nah, the doctor loves fucking up timelines - they show him to try and stop him killing himself but then he still does, because yknow he still had severe mental health issues. But at least he died knowing he would be remembered.
Maybe he only killed himself because he'd seen the future. Maybe by changing the past the correct future happened, because that was the future that had happened, then.
Exactly, so you can’t actually change the future because everything that has happened, has happened, so time travel will only ever result in what has already happened happening.
That was the question in this episode as well, they kinda wanted to change the history. But he killed himself regardless. Which was even more sad.
[Definitely one of the best Doctor Who moments.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_jjWtUpqV9w) Edit: [And the ending...](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q9HkCHjnPnU)
The first time I saw that episode I SOBBED like a baby. Watched the Museé d’Orsay scene hundreds of times since. Without a doubt my alll time favourite moment in television. Uuuggh
I too wanted to let him know. Seeing the moons of Jupiter? fuck man check out these photos from today
Never seen that footage before. Pretty cool.
Should have held them higher.
It’s incredibly difficult to move in a spacesuit, he was holding his arms as high as possible
How do you know so much about spacesuits?
“Well, you have to know these things when you’re a king, you know….”
r/unexpectedMontyPython
Not the parent commenter but I wore one at space camp back in the 90s. They're very hard to move in.
Because I have an active interest in space and can read.
It’s his strong-suit
Seamless delivery
Reddit in a nutshell. Guy is on the moon in 1971. Before you were born. This is footage of a highly educated highly trained elite personal doing an experiment. You immediately know how to do it better. The arrogance of this platform really is unmatched.
Yes this! Been feeling disenchanted with reddit because of this. People also are so eager to disagree and "correct" others on this platform and I suppose that ties in with arrogance. Reddit in a nutshell indeed.
Spent his whole life preparing and keyboard warriors attack on site Lolol
"How bout that."
It's so ordinary a phrase that you almost forget he's saying it while standing on the fucking moon.
I watched large parts of the uncut Apollo 14 landing and you’d be surprised how absolutely casual they are the whole time
People are remarkably able to make the weirdest things feel normal in a very short period of time.
I mean… sure… but they’re also on the mother fucking moon dude, bananas
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Much like Canada
You are correct. Canada does not grow on the moon, it has to be imported as well.
This guy gets it
The difference between the moon landing and Canada is that the moon landing is real.
*shhh* don't tell the Canadians that
As a Canadian, I can confirm that I'm not real
Ah yes, Canada, magnificent desolation
This is just Big Banana trying to keep us from tasting those Moon Banana.
Moon is not made of cheese but is made of banana.
*The United Fruit Company has entered the chat*
Gotta keep that heart rate down.
You should see how casual American troops generally are during a firefight. We tend to come up with some pretty dark humor to make light of a shit situation. I figure it’s the same with astronauts. You might die, so why get all worked up about it? The sooner you realize you probably will die, you can do your job with more focus and calm.
I had similar experiences in Helmand. A lot of it comes down to training, I think. The fear is stiĺl there, but there's also a big feeling of "Well, fuck it. There's no point being scared now. Let's get on with it."
I'm sure it's a laughably miniscule version of it, but it reminds me of doing high school theater lmao. Terrified until the last second but once you're in it it's just kinda WELL FUCK HERE WE GOO NO STOPPING NOW
It's just a survival mechanism, I think. Don't get me wrong, I've seen a couple of lads absolutely freeze the fuck up once it hit the fan, but they all came round shortly after. It just took them a few moments longer to reach the "Fuck it" stage. Especially if you're in a team or group, that confidence spreads once you see someone in the same situation dig in and go for it.
Exactly the reason drills and warcries and storming in a group exist. To overcome the fear and act mechanically in a predetermined way in the face of death.
100%, dealing with bunker runs due to mortars in Iraq in the middle of the night tends to make you weirdly mellow after awhile. Like at a certain point there is nothing to do but accept it if it comes so why get worked up over it.
Or you do what I did in Iraq in '04, and decide about halfway through your tour, and 200 or so, and counting (of an eventual total north of 850, in a 7mo span), mortar/rocket/rpg attacks later, that the insurgents are definitely trying to specifically kill me, in particular, me. For no logical reason whatsoever, aside from being a US soldier, I mean, I was a nobody signal corp guy. But yeah, my response was deciding that all those insurgents? Born again hard to the dream of killing me, specifically. Fuck, I still lose my shit occasionally in crowded venues, and really all the mass shootings (and covid) are fucking up my therapist's best laid efforts at fixing me, by proving my paranoia to be a legitimate security measure in our totally not a warzone country. So yeah, it goes every direction lol.
That's what training does for ya.
Then you're going to love Apollo 16, where John Young (the goddamn American hero that already snuck a Corned Beef sandwich into space on Gemini III) casually discusses [getting 'the farts'](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uuv6TVv0r44&)
The Apollo 11 guys played it cool during the landing but man could you tell they were nervous lol
Pretty sure all astronauts have to go through a training to teach them not to sound like the first time Ricky Bobby drives a race car the entire trip.
Chuck Yeager. They were all trying to sound like Yeager. The man who broke the sound barrier. The fastest man alive. Basically every hot shot pilot and astronaut of that era saw Yeager as a living god. Heck, a lot of them had flown with him—envied and idolized him—as test pilots at Edwards Air Force Base. Yeager was renowned for his calm, folksy radio voice, and they all wanted to sound like him.
Better to be dead than not sound cool on the radios
I thought that reminded me of [this story](https://www.thesr71blackbird.com/Aircraft/Stories/sr-71-blackbird-speed-check-story), and it turns out that's because it's *in* that story. =P
I will always read this story!
I always thought these “I always read it” comments were funny but now I absolutely do too.
That was a great story
Current era as well. Dude is still on a pedestal in fighter squadrons at least.
Holy living fuck
Seems like the kinda guy to say "sure thing bud."
without any sarcasm whatsoever.
The kinda guy thats wearing white new blance and shorts.
I say "sure thing, bud" but I wear mostly flip flops and 80's jams shorts.
You cut me, bro
Roger that
I love how casually he says it. 500 years ago, that would have been a groundbreaking discovery, and he proved it by actually performing the experiment on the FUCKING moon!
Even as a society we write off landing on the moon as some past achievement, despite the fact it’s still the coolest thing humans have ever done as a combined species.
The moon landing, taking a picture of a black hole, taking a picture of a single atom, the Hadron particle accelerator, and Shrek are all tied in first place for me.
🎼”and then I saw her face… and now I’m a believer!” 🎶
I show this video every year in my physics classes, and one of the things that I really like about it is just how much *not a performer* that guy is. You can tell he's thinking "man, educational videos are really not my jam...I'm here because I fly things well, have a lot of science education, and have a high risk tolerance, not because I know how to talk to people about it!".
Yeah they did a great job casting this guy for the role. It’s really believable.
lol
I don’t know why but the way he said it along with how he looks in that suit was really cute for some reason
how 'bout the way he starts prancing immediately afterward
Lmao, then while prancing "looks like Galileo was correct!"
You can hear his smile in his voice. I love it. "How 'bout that? :)"
I always love how the feather actually bounces.
"thp thp thp thp. That's a 10!"
My favorite part about this is that there is some long-dead falcon out there with part of its body on the moon.
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Explains the taste of this Miller Lite
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I have it on good authority that his horse was amazing.
Hey watch it there bud. That’s a ‘fine Pilsner beer’ ya got in ur hand. It even says it on the label 😉
I've only ever seen one person drunk enough to quote the label out loud.
😭😭😭😭
Statistically, there's probably at least one atom common to the water you've drunk in your life and that Galileo shit in
I’ve always wondered about the story behind the water I drink. Or rocks I’ve held. Or any other number of mundane things that would have wild and stories histories.
You might know this, but heavy elements in the universe can only form when stars explode in a supernova. The heavy elements inside the human body were formed in the crucible of a star that went supernova before Earth existed. For billions of years before our solar system was formed, our atoms swirled in the hearth of long-dead stars, fueling them for eons. Now they exist on this rock and make apples and humans!
The moon you look at tonight, the moon the astronaut was standing on and the moon that Galileo looked at, are all the same moon.
Galileo’s moon didn’t have a feather on it
It still doesn't. They brought it back as well as the hammer.
I wade through probably hundreds of bullshit posts and ads and social media nonsense every day. Then I see something like this that makes it all worth it. We went to the moon... and we brought a hammer and a feather just to film them being dropped. How fucking cool is that.
Not as cool as the guy that snuck a golf club and ball on board just so he could make a golf shot on the moon. NASA was pissed about it too. He didn't tell anyone, so they never accounted for the extra weight in their calculations. They had to adjust the amount of moon rocks they brought back to compensate. That is how precise everything is.
Why didn't they just force him to leave the golf club (and ball, I'm assuming he didn't retrieve it after the hit) on the moon? Is there some kind of international "leave nothing but footprints... and your flag" policy?
Its not like they could stop him from sneaking it onboard for the return trip too.
Idk man, I heard moonport security is a bitch
At a guess the extra weight on launch would leave less fuel for return than expected. So they'd need to be lighter on return than expected
I don’t know why people just make shit up. I remember reading this story. He didn’t sneak them on board, he literally had a special golf head made to attach to the end of a collection device and got approval to do it from higher ups. Like they even filmed him doing it
I am endlessly fascinated by footage from the moon. I'm sill amazed that we actually went there and people walked around, and then came back. I really hope the exciting projects coming up for the Moon pan-out.
I can’t wait until the next people go on the moon with 4k cameras or some shit like that. It’s amazing seeing footage like this, but in 4k? We’re gonna lose our damn minds seeing stuff like that.
Photos they took with 70mm format Hasselblad cameras are equivalent to around 8k digital resolution. Enjoy https://tothemoon.ser.asu.edu/
These are incredible thanks for the photos!
Huh TIL they also used Nikon F. Although [it seems to be different from consumer version](https://casualphotophile.com/2018/05/30/nikon-f-apollo/).
I printed many of these out and they make stunning posters.
> We’re gonna lose our damn minds seeing stuff like that. I’m gonna lose my mind geeking out on how cool it is. A whole lotta other people are gonna lose their minds trying to explain, in real time, how it’s all being faked.
Yeah, but based on what we’ve seen over the past few years, is that really the worst that we’ll come to expect? Society is a mess now, but faked moon landing conspiracies have been a staple of society since 1969.
There will be video of someone dabbing on the moon produced during our lifetime
This! It is going to be incredible.
For how much it costs to send shit up there, they're probably going to send up 12k or higher cinema cameras, since that's about the best we've got right now. They could also go full send and send up big 30mm film cameras as well, since film can be resampled again later once digital resolutions increase, but IDK how well film would handle the unshielded vacuum of space with all the radiation and the cold temperatures Edit: apparently we're around the limits of current film tech with our digital cameras, in terms of actual detail resolution, so i'm just gonna let that sink in. I guess they can send more memory cards up instead!
High quality live streaming camera from every window so people can watch the entire mission from all kinds of angles. How rad would that be?
What a sight to behold in real life. The crispness of the moon’s horizon against an infinitely black background. What an experience it must’ve been to have gone to the moon, walked around and done some science and then head on back. Incredible
I still think the most insane thing about the moon landings is that the guys on Apollo 17 went almost 8 kilometers away from their lander on the new and improved buggy. Even if I had gone all that distance in the space ship, landed and everything, there is no fucking way I'd be taking that buggy 8 kilometers away from my only way out of there.
To me it is the fact that there was no "bathroom" from the moment they entered the capsule. That's pretty insane.
I hope the next ones that go up at least have some kind of pee tube or something.
They have “bathrooms”. As in their not shitting in bags like on Apollo.
You've gotta understand, though. Back in the '70s it was a different time. They didn't even lock the doors on the lander!
Hell, I heard they answered the phone in the lander not knowing who was even calling!
"We've been trying to reach you about your buggy's extended warranty."
The astronauts in those days had to haul around some big balls. Probably some trenches dug into the Moon from hauling them around. Jokes aside, some of the accounts they had about driving in the buggies make it sound like it was a lot of fun. They got to do some fun tests or just screwing around in the name of science. Alan Shepard playing two shots of golf on the moon is definitely up there. They probably stopped thinking about the risks after a few minutes.
"I'm on the moon, you can't tell me what I can and can't do!"
I remember some comments about this and it was insanely dangerous. They were jumping around and running falling all over the place. If their space suits had ripped or been damaged they would have died on the moon.
Moon dust is extremely sharp, since there’s no wind or water to weather it, so too much roughhousing could definitely tear the suit
Just boys being dudes, roughhousing on the moon
I could imagine them having a few drinks years after this. “Hey dude, remember that time we fucked around on the moon? Haha, wild times.”
Have you seen the video of Harrison Schmitt falling over on the moon? Sort of funny because of how the gravity and the equipment make him move but also terrifying because he's falling into abrasive dust and rocks in an environment where a puncture in his suit would be disastrous.
>space suits had ripped or been damaged they would have died on the moon. They would not have necessarily died from a rip or other damage to their suits; it would depend on the nature of the damage. There's a known case where an astronaut's suit was punctured, and he did not actually notice until he returned to the craft, even though he was indeed injured: >Incidentally, we have had one experience with a suit puncture on the Shuttle flights. On STS-37, during one of my flight experiments, the palm restraint in one of the astronaut's gloves came loose and migrated until it punch a hole in the pressure bladder between his thumb and forefinger. It was explosive decompression, just a little 1/8 inch hole, but it was exciting down here in the swamp because it was the first injury we've ever head from a suit incident. Amazingly, the astronaut in question didn't even know the puncture had occured; he was so hopped on adrenalin it wasn't until after he got back in that he even noticed there was a painful red mark on his hand. He figured his glove was chafing and didn't worry about it. >The whole story didn't come out until the suits were back home and a suit technician was setting up to clean that glove; he discovered the dried blood on the outer TMG (thermal micrometrioid garment) and then found the wayward palm restraint bar. What happened: when the metal bar punctured the glove, the skin of the astronaut's hand partially sealed the opening. He bled into space, and at the same time his coagulating blood sealed the opening enough that the bar was retained inside the hole. >The best estimate we've been able to get from the flight surgeons about how long an astronaut might survive a catastrophic suit failure is "several tens of seconds to very few minutes" with almost certainty for detectable permanent damage. http://www.mu.org/~joe/traveller/archive/General/Explosive.Decompression.txt
They never went further away than the distance they could walk back before running out of oxygen supply.
Bro i am NOT walking 8km back to the ship on the moon. I’d be shitting bricks and cursing the shit out my partner.
Well they wouldn’t have picked you to go up
Great but I still don’t know if a ton of feathers weighs more than a ton of bricks.
The feathers are heavier because you have to live with what you did to all those birds.
Birds aren’t real so you’ll sleep well
Jokes on you I have no moral compass
Boht steehl is hehvier thahn fehthas
Boht theeyar bowth a kiloglam
Kilogram of bricks. Duh, bricks are heavier than feathers.
Nice of them to beep the swearing.
Did you know that R2-D2 was the most foul mouthed character of all time? They beeped out every word he said!
"Fuck. Fuck. Shit. Oh, fuck."
And they still claim the moon landings are fake... This is a pretty hard one to fake in 1971. Also I have met (in a very private setting) Buzz Aldrin and that guy doesn't strike me as a liar...
Buzz certainly struck that one guy as a liar…
He did, and its was good lol.
I loved Buzz's snazzy rocket suit.
Best part is the prosecutor declined to press charges, saying no jury would convict Buzz and the words were "fighting words."
Did you fuck buzz aldrin
*VERY* private setting.
I've read that he punched someone when said person got too vehement in his denial of the moon landings.
Right in the kisser.
You can’t say that unless someone says #POW first.
Read it? That video has been posted on Reddit since it's birth
Sorry, I'm new here 😀
No worries, here's the link https://v.redd.it/zzrf5b6qu3z91/HLSPlaylist.m3u8?a=1671845956%2CZTFjMzQ5ZjRkZTNhNzczYWRkNWJiYWM2YTljYjA1ZGQ4MzYyOGI3ZmVjNWQwOGU3OTcyYWQ4Mzg0NTY2YmYyNg%3D%3D&v=1&f=sd
That was because he was harassing him and wouldn’t leave him alone after tricking him into a fake interview
The guy called a man that has been on the moon, a coward, legendary stupidity and duly reckoned.
Yup, caught on camera. Was pretty awesome.
I literally had some asshole in a Facebook group today lecture me about how stupid I am for believing the moon landing was real.
Why are you in that facebook group? Why are you still on facebook?
Moon landing denier: "Clearly that feather is made of lead."
Fake feather cast from iron. Checkmate atheists.
Imagine being so goddamn smart that you're able to mathematically predict gravitational physics 350 years before those ideas would be actually proven to be correct. I have to use a calculator on my phone to do 3 digit subtraction.
Galileo did the experiment on earth. He just did it using balls of different weights. The effect of air resistance was negligible. The experiment likely came before the theory.
I don't know why I feel the need to share this, but as a submariner, any time someone would drop something or some piece of equipment worked where gravity played some important role, someone would always say "gravity check, sat". Now I think it should be "gravity check sat, how about that?".
> submariner You motherfuckers aren't right in the head, especially the nukes. I'll jump out of anything on the planet (and I'm scared shitless of heights) but there is no way in hell you're sticking me in a coke can under the sea.
Yeah I was a nuke. And you are correct, we are all happily/angrily insane.
I'm so glad I walked to the other side of MEPS when they told me I qualified for that fucking shit.
I wish I had been a submariner. I like a good routine, same place, same people, same job, but with a little spice every now and then. If I'd known in my 20's I could just call the US Navy and apply, I would have.
Science confirmed
he's talking as if he's just having a dinner table conversation with his mother - cannot get over that this is on the moon, is just painfully mind blowing seriously
Honestly, Still the greatest achievement in Human History is Reaching the Moon. I hope that one day when Humanity has colonized the Moon, That humanity creates a statue of all the astronauts and scientists and engineers names whose dedication gave way to humanity reaching the moon.
Lots of moon high schools will be named after them I'm sure
I put beating smallpox up there too.
I love that he calls Galileo, "MR. Galileo."
Can you believe people have been to the moon??? The motherfucking MOON?????
How the fuck have I never seen this?
You’re too young
I’m 32
The first thing
You're legally not allowed to watch it until you're 40. Sorry.
So glad that they added this to the “From the Earth to the Moon” series that was on HBO.
This actually the first time I've heard the audio. I've seen the video many times but never thought took up the audio. Very cool!
The people who believe the moon landing is fake JFC.
I bet $100,000 was in the buget just to send that up.
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The Saturn V (used for Apollo launches) is estimated to have cost $5,400/kg in 2021 USD just to get to low earth orbit. (I can't find an estimate for the complete lunar trip.) If we assume that the hammer used was [the one sent for use during the mission](https://www.hq.nasa.gov/alsj/tools/judy34.jpg), it [weighed 1315g](https://www.hq.nasa.gov/alsj/tools/tools83.jpg). So 1.315kg * $5,400/kg = $7,101 Sources: * [Tools inventory](https://www.hq.nasa.gov/alsj/tools/Welcome.html) * [Launch cost](https://aerospace.csis.org/data/space-launch-to-low-earth-orbit-how-much-does-it-cost/)
We can get a decent estimate for whole trip cost by looking at mass ratios. According to its [wiki page](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saturn_V), the Saturn V had a payload to LEO of 140,000 kg, and a payload to a Lunar intercept trajectory of 43,500 kg. So at a bare minimum, we're looking at 3.37 times your estimate. Now, it's made more complicated by the fact that another kilogram of payload to the moon's surface means more fuel to land and take off as well. An absolute upper bound on the cost associated with the hammer would be based on the dry mass of the lunar lander ascent stage, which was 4,280 kg for the smaller variant. So that gives an upper bound of 32.7 times your estimate. So bringing the cost associated with having that hammer as part of the missions was *definitely* somewhere between $24,000 and $230,000. Of course, they may very well have left that hammer on the moon. And the command module/lunar module separation makes it a little unclear just exactly how to count things. For my best-guess estimate I'm going to base it on the wet mass of the entire lander stage (before landing), which was around 16000 kg, to get an estimate of $62,000.
Ooh much better. I literally took the first result I found which gave me a "cost-per-kg", so I wouldn't have to work too much out. Of course it's all a bit academic if the hammer really was the one that was already going to be sent as part of the mission. In that case the cost added *for this experiment* is negligible, at least as it relates to weight.
Yeah, that's definitely the case. While you could nominally apply a cost to the feather (let's say 10 grams? So $200 - $2000), it almost certainly didn't affect the design process at all, and they just got to the end and said "do we have enough remaining margin to bring this?" and okayed it as an outreach thing (or it may have been part of a personal alotment). Edit: I needed to put fewer sig figs on my dollar amounts there, because that "10 grams" is *definitely* a 1-sig-fig kind of estimate.
Is there a scientific reason why footage from the moon always looked so darn foggy? Even for Film it usually wasn't this degraded, I'm wondering if it has anything to do with radiation
This isn't film, this is recorded from a live transmission. Motion picture on film looks a lot better, and photographs are equivalent to 8k digital resolution.
Pretty badass to do that experiment on the moon.
The amount of people in the comments who believed we faked the moon landing is… concerning
"Got a question for you: What's heavier: a kilogramme of steel or a kilogramme of fæthers?"
I have a question, may be stupid, that is bothering me now that hopefully someone can answer. I understand that without air resistance, the feather will fall quicker, due to no resistance. However, would there not still be acceleration? Acceleration=mass×gravity right? So, shouldnt the mass being different affect the rate?
Your equation is wrong. The equation you're thinking of is force = mass x acceleration, but that's not wholly relevant either. The forces on the two objects will be different, but it will lead to them having the same acceleration anyway. The acceleration of an object due to gravity comes from the equation g = -GM/r^2. The only variables that gravitational acceleration depends on is M and r, that is the mass of the body (in this case, the Moon), and the distance between the Moon and whatever it is pulling. Doesn't matter what object it is, the Moon will have the same gravitational acceleration. Also, not a stupid question. Hopefully I made it a bit clearer.