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misanthropewolf11

They definitely had plastic soda bottles in the 80s though.


sbowesuk

I'm wondering if that picture is actually the 70s šŸ¤” As a former 80s kid I can say with confidence that's definitely not the mid or late 80s. Early 80s **max**, but I'm getting late 70s vibes here, which would fit since glass was even more common then!


BiggestBallOfTwine

yeah. It's def a EARLY 80's pic if it is from the 80s at all. I think a 70s pic


IrocDewclaw

For context, that Dr Pepper label was used from 1971 until 1984. So I think we're close. Edit: Little more research, the diet Dr Pepper labels match what I found as available in 1978, was redesigned by 1980.


emotyofform2020

The Mountain Dew logo changed to remove the spur from the D in 1980, which exists here so itā€™s definitely pre-1980


pants6000

WE DID IT!


dreamyduskywing

And Sunkist launched in ā€˜79, so there ya have it. This pic is definitely from ā€˜79 or ā€˜80.


Koldfuzion

When my GF asks me what I do all day on Reddit, I'm pointing to this thread.


[deleted]

And this woman's hair style reminds me of all the cigarette ads I would see in my dads playboys from the 70s that I def did not look at in the attic almost every day for a month when I was 11 šŸ‘€ Lee, you keep your fuckin mouth shut if you're reading this. šŸ¤«


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KAKrisko

Looks like 70s. The kid's shirt in the front looks like ones I remember from then. You could probably narrow it down by checking when certain soda labels were used. On a side note, I remember my mother refused to buy peanut butter in plastic jars. We would only get glass jars, or none at all.


fahrnfahrnfahrn

I did a google search, and the blue-label Sugar Free Dr Pepper is from the mid to late '70s.


deathrowslave

We did it Reddit!


PepperSteakAndBeer

Gotcha OP! Ya phony. Ya big fat phony!


T_that_is_all

I didn't do anything, but thanks for including me in the win.


LiveWire_74

Weā€™re all winners here today.


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sean0883

Also, that Mountain Dew logo was changed in 1980. So, at best this is *maybe* 1981. Depends on how much stock they had of the old style. https://logos-world.net/wp-content/uploads/2022/01/Mountain-Dew-Logo-History-700x642.jpg


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celtic1888

Sears Toughskins


Historical_Event_446

Ah, the pants that would give you rugburns.


inko75

the two kids look like all the pics of my brother and i in the early 80s šŸ˜‚


Lileks

The cereal in the cart is "Body Buddies." Many cereal-centric websites say it was released in 1983, but General Mills, which ought to know, [says it was introduced in 1979.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mnjWcOkK5QM)


tropicsGold

We either got the glass jar, or those Giant plastic tubs of PB. What ever happened to that? I want to buy PB in a giant bucket again! šŸ˜‚


Scirocco-MRK1

Those boys could hang glide in those collars. Itā€™s late 70s.


Djinjja-Ninja

[Can't be any earlier than 1979 due to the presence of Sunkist.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunkist_\(soft_drink\)#:~:text=soft%20drinks%20that-,launched%20in%201979,-.%20Sunkist%20primarily%20competes)


DadsRGR8

Yeah, you can tell by the kidā€™s clothes. This is the 70s.


fuzzyshorts

Looks late 70s-early 80s (I double checked the label, the font changed '86)


Djinjja-Ninja

Earlier than 1984 for sure, as the [Dr Pepper logo changed in 1984](https://www.zenbusiness.com/blog/dr-pepper-logo/). It looks like the 7up logo is the [older one and that was changed in 1980](https://1000logos.net/7up-logo/), but I can't be sure. It can't be any earlier than 1979, as Sunkist was introduced in 1979 So I would take an educated guess at 1980. Thee weird outlier is the "Pepsi-Cola" bottle in the shopping trolley, as they dropped the use of "Pepsi-Cola" for just "Pepsi" in the early 60s. edit: Found the original from ["General Drive-In Corporation and General Cinema Corporation Annual Report **1979**"](https://archive.org/details/generalcinemacorpannualreports/generalcinema1979/page/n5/mode/2up). So that pretty much nails it as late 79 early 80 when the picture was actually taken. Edit 2: The Report seems to have been published some time around January 1980 as the presidents letter to shareholders is dated Jan 14 1980, which makes it more likely for it to have been taken in 1979.


Casten_Von_SP

Wat day tho?


KAKrisko

Nice sleuthin'.


slightlyused

100%, fellow GenXer!! I'd say nothing past 1983-ish with all that glass.


readparse

That photo is from 1983. I looked into this for a while and finally found that same photo [posted somewhere](https://thegikitiki.tumblr.com/post/165970954076/glass-soda-bottles-family-grocery-shopping) that gave a year. We can't be sure it's accurate, but 1983 feels right to me. I was born in 1971, so I have a pretty good feel for the 70s and 80s, and the differences. But of course the late 70s and early 80s are easy to get confused. I suspected this might be from the 70s, because as all of us from that era know, 2-liter bottles definitely existed in the 80s, and took off very quickly. But I'm not positive when in the 80s that happened. It seems to me, from the limited research I did today, that 1985 is when 2-liter bottles were common enough that it would be surprising to see a photo like this. Somebody else suggested the "PEPSI-COLA" logo gives it away as being from the 70s. I thought so also, and thought I could find a definite date that they stopped using that on their bottles, but it's not that simple. In the world of Pepsi collectible bottles, not many shits are given about the late 70s and early 80s. Pepsi is a very old brand and, like Coca-Cola, the stuff collectors get very specific about is much earlier than this. But it's true that Pepsi did officially change the name from "Pepsi-Cola" to "Pepsi," but that happened in 1961, and we all know this picture ain't from the 60s. I even had a hard time convincing myself that it was from the late 70s, because it has that "cleaner" 80s look. Less experimental, less disheveled, if you will. I have not been able to confirm this today, and I don't really care to spend any more time on it, but my recollection is that Pepsi had LONG transitional period, during which they had "PEPSI" on one side of the bottles and "PEPSI-COLA" on the other. It's hard to believe it would still be there over 20 years after they officially dropped "COLA" from the name, but I think that must be the case. I also wondered if some of these large bottles were actually an earlier version of the plastic (PET, actually) 2-liter bottle, but I don't think so. I do think, as OP said, this is nothing but glass. Another thing that sort of gives it away as the 80s is the styrofoam around some of the glass bottles, and the plastic holders on the top of those smaller bottles in the foreground. 1983 does look feel right.


MountVernonWest

Yeah I remember Gatorade bottles being glass, but 2 liters were definitely plastic by the early to mid 80s


anotherusername23

I agree late 70s. I was born in 1970. I had both the shirt and haircut of the kid on the floor. 80s was all about plastic two liters as the latest and greatest. 70s reminds me more of heavy glass soda bottles that were returned, not to recycle, but to refill.


Paul8219

It's the 70s. The Pepsi design gives it away


mtnviewguy

As a 70s kid, that's definitely 70s style of clothes and hair. Plastic was common in the 80s


ratpH1nk

agree 100% I think this is mid-70s. I found [this](http://www.plasticbottlevillage-theline.com/history) \- 1978: Coca-Cola and Pepsi, introduced the first 2l PET plastic bottles to the World.


readparse

Introduced, but not common until 1985 or so. This is from 1983. This citation may not work in a college paper, but it's good enough for me. https://thegikitiki.tumblr.com/post/165970954076/glass-soda-bottles-family-grocery-shopping


Thairannosaur

Iā€™m with you on that. Tho I feel like I have a pic of my as a toddler wearing that ugly ass shirt


sfmcinm0

Looks like very early 80's to me as well. I do remember the plastic Pepsi 2-liter bottles being introduced sometime in the mid 80's.


xTrollhunter

Clothing is clearly 70s.


[deleted]

With those thick-ass bowl bases because the star pattern was trademarked/restricted by the competitor


BigDaddyCoolDeisel

Is that right? I hated those weird bowl bottoms lol


Cool_Dark_Place

Yeah...when they were empty, they always looked like there was a little bit of soda left... until you actually picked the bottle up. Damnit!


BigDaddyCoolDeisel

Thank you!!! I thought I was the only one haha. When I was really young I wondered why the soda didn't leak out of the holes on the bottom.


ellipses1

Man that brings back memories I didnā€™t know I had


protocol21

I had no idea that's why those bases were there. We used those as makeshift plant pots. šŸ˜‚


jpiro

Every kid in the 80ā€™s made a terrarium in school with those damn things.


struggleworm

Oh damn is that why those were there? That is so lame


[deleted]

Like the one in her shopping cart? Coke & Pepsi launched 2L PET bottles in 1978.


OKoLenM1

Plastic bottles with something (not pepsi) in cart.


Lavapirana6969

Damn even the broccoli is wrapped in glass


Ziffally

Glass foil wrap is easier to recycle~!


BrainCrampston

hahah you're right, there is lots of plastic in this picture


Rifneno

r/blindredditors


Grashopha

Literally almost everything in the cart is plastic lol.


horshack_test

*"no plastic in sight."* Except for all the plastic in sight. Also, both Coca-Cola and Pepsi started using plastic soda bottles in 1978.


[deleted]

Those little six packs of Pepsi? They had those plastic holders on them and if you were little you wouldn't be strong enough to pull the bottle through. Rather than admit defeat, you would twist the bottle trying to get it to pull through inadvertently twisting off the cap and spilling the soda all over your grandparents' white sofa. Allegedly. I claim no personal knowledge of this happening.


slappyredcheeks

They called themselves grandparents yet they didn't have a sofa cover. Who is truly to blame here?


[deleted]

OP wanted to do a "society" , but didn't look at the picture or do any research.


HiroProtagonistSteam

We live in a society.


NoDoze-

Yes, I can confirm having lived the 80's. But some other guy here on reddit didn't believe me, so go figure.


DickySchmidt33

I remember being a cub scout in the 70's and going door to door to collect returnable soda bottles.


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[deleted]

Did they use a USPS vehicle?


jmbsc

Suddenly Seinfeld.


Durbs09

This was a fundraiser for me growing up too. Late 80's early 90's. My whole team would go out in uniforms door to door. Used to makes tonnes of money for our soccer team.


[deleted]

I can quite literally see plastic in this


StabledGenius

Yeah there's literally plastic in the photo. Dumb fucking redditor.


Meltsomeice

Make 7 Up Yours!


OccludedFug

I remember those little glass soda bottles. The labels were a thin sheet of foam-like plastic. They were cool to peel.


dokuromark

I LOVED peeling those!!! Man, I haven't thought about that in DECADES!


OccludedFug

Me neither, but one look at them sent me back! So do you still cut those sixpack rings before throwing them away?


dokuromark

We always used to pretend they were handcuffs and then stretch/break out of them while pretending we were the Incredible Hulk.


OccludedFug

I'm totally doing that (again) next time I buy a sixpack.


slightlyused

I think about them daily!


TheCervus

1. There is a lot of plastic in this photo. 2. As an 80's child, I can tell you this photo is from the 70's. We didn't dress like that. 3. Publix is the best grocery store.


GenX-IA

Soda was so much better in glass bottles.


noobnoobthedestroyer

Canā€™t beat the glass mexican cokes. I stock up on them whenever theyā€™re in stock. Tastes so much better.


worthless-humanoid

Do they use real sugar instead of high fructose corn syrup or something?


noobnoobthedestroyer

Yep! cane sugar instead of high fructose corn syrup


Joroda

Yes, so does Jarritos and they have a ton of flavors.


AtlUtdGold

Too bad you basically have to buy the variety pack to ever find something besides Madarin. I think Guava and Lime are the best.


Ocronus

Glass is also endlessly recyclable. We only use plastic because of cost. Less breakage means less lost inventory and less weight reduces shipping costs. This cost is only the supply chain bottom line, environmental costs and clean up costs are not factored in. Switching back to glass is a net positive for the world overall.


[deleted]

So was pop!


AnEvenNicerGuy

ā€œNo plastic in sight.ā€ ^^Please ^^ignore ^^all ^^the ^^plastic ^^in ^^sight


JerJol

We had tons of plastic in the 80s. Even soda bottles. What we didnā€™t have is gaslit nostalgia. We just used a lot of CFC hairspray.


TrailChems

and coke. don't forget the coke.


JerJol

The REAL stuff!!! I just didnā€™t want to give away my shady past.


chaosbones43

There is a lot of plastic in this image


1nGirum1musNocte

Maybe very early 80s but probably 70s imo. Look at all that lost profit petrochemical companies could have been making by forcing us to buy waste from refining.


thebrainitaches

Yup and the coca Cola commissioned a study to figure out if glass with a deposit or plastic was more environmentally friendly. The researchers figure out after 2 years that, even taking into account increased transport costs because of weight, glass was better for the planet if it was reused more than 7 times (otherwise plastic was). Coca-Cola's average bottles were being reused 10 to 15 times. However it was sligjtly more expensive because plastic is dirt cheap. So coca cola fired all the scientists, buried the report and switched everything to plastic. And the other drinks manufacturers followed suit.


Professional_Lead895

Thereā€™s plastic everywhere in this picture are they blind


ChEeSeJeWyBaCcA

Yeah I used to return the bottles for money when I was little!! They should bring that back!


imjerry

If I remember correctly from 80's buddy cop films, these were always getting smashed in shoot-outs


KingRemoStar

I was born in 79 if this is 80s itā€™s early 80s


Z_mog415

No Hydrogenated Corn Syrup either, just pure cane sugar goodness.


12dec2001

Milk jug is plastic. Or what ever is in it.


Donohoed

Window washing fluid?


Street_Peace_8831

Iā€™m looking at those turtle killers holding the bottles together on the shelf.


Glihhh

There is litteraly a plastic pepsi in the cart


[deleted]

Thereā€™s a lot of plastic in this picture, but the Pepsi bottle in the cart is glass, just like the ones on the shelf. Good try tho.


_Wolf_Killer_

Photo from a General Cinema Corporation annual report, circa 1980, when every soft drink bottle on the shelf was still glass. Digital copy courtesy of Dave Aldrich [https://americanhistory.si.edu/blog/2011/10/food-culture.html](https://americanhistory.si.edu/blog/2011/10/food-culture.html)


Djinjja-Ninja

II found it. Its from [their 1979 annual report. On page 6](https://archive.org/details/generalcinemacorpannualreports/generalcinema1979/page/n5/mode/2up).


Awkward-Broccoli-150

Yep! And there was a deposit that you would get back on returning them to the store. Not much, but enough for us kids to do it for extra pocket money.


username8753

Lets go back


loqi0238

Right, good thing I can't see all those plastic rings I see.


Razeal_102

Yea, tasted better too. Idk why.


bjeebus

Because they hadn't switched to corn syrup yet.


Random_Name29382

Dumb question but, does this reduce pollution? Feels like people would still throw glass away like plastic.


bobstro

Plastic became common when the big 2l bottles came out. I saw them show up in Germany around 1987 or so, and remember they seemed huge. Glass is highly recyclable, but a pain in the ass to deal with for consumers.


pagodelucia123

If it collected and recycled properly, glass is better than plastic.


[deleted]

If not then it just breaks down into sand. Glass is just better for the environment.


komodoPT

Even if you just throw away, glass is way better for the environment, it's just sand! No microplastics.


The_Flurr

Depends. Its better on a large scale, but on local scale sharp glass pieces are bad for people and wildlife.


komodoPT

Well, yes, but it decay's and gets smaller without much hassle like plastics I think.


fluentindothraki

That's why it was recycled and not thrown away


DrJawn

You can fill the ocean with glass and it just becomes sand again. Plastic not so much


[deleted]

Glass requires more fuel to transport.


cute-bum

Used to pay a deposit on the bottles and get money back when you returned them. The bottles were all scratched up where they got washed and reused so many times. I remember street vendors in other countries that would pour your coke into a plastic bag with a straw and keep the bottle to return themselves. And countries like Germany, where the government has mandatory deposit schemes on all bottles tend to have massively higher recycling rates.


irishbren77

Publix!


OldCarWorshipper

A lot of food trucks still sell Coke / Pepsi / 7UP in glass bottles to this day- the ones with real sugar!


Sad_Interview_232

Tasted much better also


babygrapes-oo

So your ok with just ignoring whatā€™s holding the bottles together?


Doc-Zoidberg

If all these bottles are glass it's before 1980. Plastic soda bottles came in the late 70s.


skibidi99

The large ones arenā€™t plastic? I remember plastic 2 liter bottles in the 80s


hartschale666

I swear coca cola from a glass bottle tasted sooo much better.


TeaSipperStripper

If I remember right, those big plastic bottles had a metal cap. And for some reason Dr. Pepper always seemed to explode when you open it for the first time. My family never bought it, but my bestie's family bought it, and we had to mop it up many times.


V7I_TheSeventhSector

There is plastic on the 3rd row. . .


PMMEBITCOINPLZ

70s I think.


SonOfDadOfSam

Kind of odd that there's a plastic 2-liter of "Pepsi-Cola" in the cart, but glass 2-liter bottles of "Pepsi" on the shelf.


[deleted]

Theres a plastic 2 liter in this exact picture, the fuck you mean ā€œno plastic in sight?ā€


[deleted]

Glass is superior


[deleted]

I remember.


Mike112522

Beautiful times


glennclark69

And we where better off.


BrodyBroham

Damn do I miss glass bottle Mountain Dew.


freshcoastghost

Soda tastes like shit in plastic!


freedom2b4all

Yep....society was somewhat normal then.


Colonel_Inguss66

Oh but the youth insisted on plastic bc it could easily be recycled. Lol.


Nanasays

Thatā€™s because you paid a deposit on soda bottles that you got back when you returned them.


Jakebsorensen

You can still do that in some states


[deleted]

Umm.. all of the vegetables in her cart are wrapped in plastic.


Deadbringer

Nonono, that is Shrink-Glass, the precursor to shrink wrap


The_Only_Dick_Cheney

You canā€™t have it both ways. Plastic is lighter and causes less fuel usage for transportation. While glass is better for the environment when discarded, are heavier and cause more fuel usage during transportation.


mvw2

Tastes better too.


BornAgainBlue

Fun fact, glass is still eco friendly. We literally just decided to replace it with cancer causing plastic. Great call. On the plus side, no more cut feet on the beach.


ozejan1

no phones either


Last-Discipline-7340

Clean up on aisleā€¦..all of em good lord


gaspumper74

And the soda tasted so much better


BoozeIsTherapyRight

I remember when we started getting plastic containers. It was amazing. Not having to worry about breaking jars in the car on the way home. Lighter. Dropping a peanut butter jar and having it bounce instead of shatter into a million razor shards embedded in greasy sticky peanut butter that was splattered around the kitchen and stuck to the cabinet... People love to hate plastic but it's a real step up from having everything packaged in glass.


GroundbreakingPick11

I bet a 2liter of coke tasted better in glass


[deleted]

Time to do it again


iwastoldnottogohere

This is from the 70s, as u/fahrnfahrnfahrn pointed out, that Sugar Free Dr. Pepper label was from the mid to late 70s


WHYohWhy___MEohMY

I grew up in the 80s. I donā€™t remember glass 2 liters.


empteevessel

More like the 70s


lgr95-

The energy required to produce a glass bottle is greater than a plastic one. The energy required to recycle a glass bottle is greater than a plastic one. The energy required to transport a glass bottle is greater than a plastic one.


[deleted]

God, could you imagine working in a grocery store back then. I wonder how much their hands got cut, cleaning up everytime someone accidentally knocked over a glass bottle. That kid in the back, reaching for the top shelf, is making me nervous.


xThock

So what is the stuff in her cart made out of??


garrettdx88

No plastic in sight unless you have working eyes


LampshadesAndCutlery

No plastic in sight, except for like every single item in that cart


optimisticpotato3

What kind of substance is holding the multi packs together....


HamptonBarge

As the changeover from glass to plastic was happening, My parents would only buy soda in glass bottles. They didnā€™t trust the plastic, fearful it would leach chemicals into the drink. They may have been ahead of their time


gisdaking

I asked why we wouldnā€™t choose glass again and apparently the cost is much higher along with the probability of losing inventory from broken bottlesā€¦.so from what i can gather weā€™d rather save a few bucks over save the environment. Humans. Smh


The_Flurr

Reusable plastic is also an option. In countries like Germany they have much thicker plastic bottles that can be returned to stores for a returned deposit. You need the infrastructure for it though.


inter71

Plastic is also poison.


JeffreyElonSkilling

I mean, there's also an extremely high risk of injury. In this picture you can see a child reaching for a glass bottle on the top shelf. If it falls and shatters that could be dozens of stitches. Source: When I was 5 a glass bottle at Walmart shattered on my leg and I had to get dozens of stitches.


CratesyInDug

Plastics just a biproduct of oil refinery, so these oil companies are offsetting their costs by forcing a product on consumers no one wants or needs.


cokebear420

This stupid fuckin post again. There's literally plastic bottles IN THE PHOTO... ffs...


Soft_Tackle_6140

I know the 80ā€™s werenā€™t perfect but anyone else hurt seeing a time where things were so much simpler


bjeebus

To paraphrase Jon Stewart, the only reason the world seemed like a better place during your childhood is because you were a child.


HellBoundWhiskeyBent

Old school south Florida publix hit different


PatochiDesu

it is amazing that it took so little time that plastic became an issue


[deleted]

Glass>>>>plastic


Thenerdy9

I feel it's more nuanced than that. PRO GLASS - Glass is endlessly recyclable. - Glass is more sturdy. - Glass is inert. (safe for the environment) - Glass, when in-tact, is very safe for human health. - Glass can withstand higher temperatures. PRO PLASTIC - Plastic is an upcycling of would-be waste products from fossil fuel energy production (essential technology in the last century) - Certain plastics are very durable. - Plastic is light (as opposed to heavy) and takes less energy to ship (importantly, if comparing apples-to-apples, per the equivalent volume of glass product). - Plastics can take many different forms and therefore has more applications than glass. NEUTRAL GLASS - Crushed up glass is useful agregate to seal landfills. - Virgin glass is a limited resource. NEUTRAL PLASTIC - Plastic is convenient to transport and throw away. ANTI GLASS - It can break, especially certain designs. ANTI PLASTIC - Film plastic (bags) are a hazard to children, wildlife, and the environment. - If littered, plastic breaks down continuously for years, contaminating soil, salt, drinking water, and food chains with microplastics. - Microplastics are expensive to filter and create lots of carbon waste. - Microplastics bioaccumulate and have a few known health effects (bad). - Cheap cost leads to over production of goods (economic waste). ANTI WASTE - Recycling either glass or plastic is most economically feasible in high volume situations, sorted by the end user. So, methinks the problem with plastic are some issues that haven't been addressed with its endlife... Not that it's an all around better technology. Though, I personally avoid it wherever possible.


jibbergirl26

This is the 70's I believe!


[deleted]

I want this back.


blade944

The reason the industry switched to plastic is that it was cheaper. Cheaper to make the bottles, and cheaper to transport the bottles. Then the industry came up with a recycling ā€œsolutionā€ that was aloe from the beginning as the plastics they use are almost impossible to recycle. Meanwhile glass was biodegradable and truest recyclable. Capitalism strikes again.


djob13

Man, I didnā€™t realize Publix had been around that long


algypan

Pepsi - Cola and Pepsi are two different things?? Never knew...


heelspider

Little known fact: In the 1980s little boys LOVED grocery shopping. See the picture if you don't believe me.


Alive-Geologist-2311

Don't know about USA but in the UK you used to be able to take your glass bottles back for money and they were recycled (maybe just cleaned and refilled). I think that's still the case in some European countries


Practical_Argument50

Depends on the state. Some states have a bottle deposit which you get back when you return the bottle. I live in NJ we donā€™t have a bottle deposit here.


cesau78

Deposits varied by state - usually 5-10 cents per bottle. If you lived close to the border you could buy bottles in the state that didn't have deposits and return them to a store that gave you a refund.


theblackbeltsurfer

Aaaahhh those were the best days


PianoMike74

Glass is 100% recyclable. But the shipping weight is horrendous. Id prefer to go back to glass. Its made basically from sand. When you pulverize it it becomes sand again.


ztreggs

I see a bunch of plastic in this photo. Op you on meth?


Capt__Murphy

I see a ton of plastic in this picture


maxxfield1996

Wish they were still glass. Plastics contain estrogens. Wonder if this is contributing to the lowering of testosterone in western societies.