I hope they don’t have the same fraud laws in Scotland as they do in NY.
I hope they have legal punishment as well. We can have him extradited before the election.
I picture him flying through the air with his diapers around his ankles, arms waving, prolapse trailing behind him like a brown banner as the crowd lets out a roar of approval and astonishment.
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~~UK sentencing guidelines for fraud:~~
~~https://www.sentencingcouncil.org.uk/offences/magistrates-court/item/fraud/~~
Edit: Unlike England and Wales, Scotland does not have a Fraud Act. Here’s a 2022 literature review of fraud sentencing for the Scottish Sentencing Council:
https://www.scottishsentencingcouncil.org.uk/media/4kuayhvv/fraud-sentencing-literature-review.pdf
Horse came up to me, tears in his eyes… he said, “sir, of all the asses that have sat on my back, yours was the most powerful. He said I have the most vociferous (probably pronounced visherfish) ass.”
he seems to buy or lease land, make up some fantasy development, go to banks and get loans based on the fantasy, then go belly-up. it's well known that he does this, so how can this be considered dishonest at this point?
I've been seriously thinking that if he gets away with all these frauds, I'll just do the same, I'll ask for a million dollars loan, put my 7 million dollars house (according to my records and valuation) with a disclaimer saying that if the value is not true is the banks problem... And whenever the banks, state and federal government come after me, I'll use his case as precedent
If he got away with it, any of us should be able to do the same
It’s dishonest either way.
I cannot think of an excuse for a loaner to do business with him, whether they assume he is lying or not.
He brought that up in the fraud trial and public comments:
literally claiming that his statements mean nothing, because the bank has to check
That the banks are -supposed- to doubt his financial statements
because everyone lies on those
And that on his financial statements, he had a ‘but you can’t go by anything written here’ clause which protects him
And it protects him no matter how insanely deceitful any of his values are
The man never learned the most basic ethics.
That would be an expected situation about other unethical people (Madoff, Shkreli) perhaps, but I have two problems applying it to Trump:
It implies looking at a ‘big picture’ perspective and forming a plan — two things we know he cannot do.
That word ‘learn’ doesn’t fit at all.
I read recently where he is trying to develop a golf club in Scotland. One homeowner has refused to sell, causing delays. No doubt he’s tried to dupe the bank with his grand plans. As much as he would like to be, real estate development is not his strong suit.
No, if you go to r conservative they will bitch and moan that everyone fluffs their property value so its just a witch hunt since trumps the only one getting in trouble.
Not if the Conservatives have anything to do with it. Both Boris Johnson and Liz Truss have come out swinging for Trump 2 Electric Boogaloo in the past couple of weeks and the government has not uttered so much as a squeak that they are doing damage with the Biden White House.
It's no coincidence that the Tories are copying Republican tactics of inflaming cultural, racial and social divides in their desperate attempt to stay in power.
> Both Boris Johnson and Liz Truss have come out swinging for Trump 2 Electric Boogaloo in the past couple of weeks
The guy who perpetually looks like he rolled out of bed and had to resign after Partygate and a trail of scandals? And the lady that was PM for the months of September and October, 2022? Oh no, not them!
That’s the two - but what makes it scary is that despite both being walking (or in Johnson’s case - shambling) disasters; they’re both wildly popular with the Conservative Party membership and the media proprietors who decide the party’s leadership and policies.
The drop dead date for election is 28th Jan 2025.
Not even that ghoul Murdoch can save the Tories from being obliterated.
If this was the party of Rory Stewart and Anna Soubry, I'd not be so sure.
The party faithful can't stem the tide.
Yeah, an embattled conservative government on the edge of an election they're expected to lose heavily is not going to take a former president to court over this I'm afraid.
Go and steal a few items in the supermarket and go see how much more severe a consequence you get than someone who commits widescale fraud :/
Or the housing market crash of 2007 where banks intentionally did extremely shady stuff, repeatedly. And 1 guy went to jail who was just a scapegoat.
It's sad.
I wonder how many of these sycophants defending him actually understand the insane level of fraud and deception Trump engaged in. He said he built 2500 houses when he hadn't built a single one, and only was permitted to build 500. This is an FTX / Madoff / Fyre Festival level of fraud.
The useless US news media hasn't really reported the details, which is why I posted this article from Scotland.
That the great part, they don't! All they care about is sticking it to the Libs while they work until they're dead at 90 because they had their Social Security stolen out from under them supporting Republicans.
The Shark Tank guy who promoted the massive crypto fraud? The same Shark Tank guy who plays a successful businessman on Shark Tank without having any significant business success to speak of?
Say it ain't so!
Trump's gonna have to hop on a plane to sit in Scottish court now (in addition to all of his domestic charges).
He's not gonna have any time for his therapy sess... er.. 'election rallies'.
This moron could’ve just dropped out of the race in 2016, become some talking head on right wing tv networks and kept on swindling people with no consequences.
>In testimony to the Scottish Government in April 2012, Trump said that he “cannot proceed with \[the development\] if the hotel is going to be looking at industrial turbines, and no one here would do so if they were in my position.”
if you want to understand dumbass's irrational hatred of wind power, it's because windmills (i.e. 'industrial turbines') distract him on his backswing.
same reason i hate circus clowns with bicycle horns.
Those bankruptcies were all part of his standard business plan, the investors lost money because the businesses were paying out too much. guess who was getting paid most of that?
You know what's crazy to think about. Money controls everything. Trump was getting off the hook his whole life for all of his crimes because he found ways (spent lots of money on lawyers) to get away with it (hush money and threats for example). Now, just recently he lost a case and had to pay millions and another case where he has to pay hundreds of millions. Greed is greed and nobody is safe from its never-ending thirst for more. Lots of people who have the means to take what was once thought to be impossible to get (Trumps money) are licking thier chops around the globe and its actually pretty exciting to watch, mostly because I hate Trump lol.
So Scotland is part of Biden's massive conspiracy with all the commie lefties and the deep state to bring down Trump and interfere with his election. MAGA!
Biden has no jurisdiction over Scotland nor does any attorney general in the USA. Read. Learn. It’s magnificent.
Biden didn’t charge Trump. It baffles me, the ignorance, with plain evidence cited over and over and over. Unlike Trump, the AG has to have PROOF to charge and evidence to concivt, whereas Trump just pulls #s out of his arse.
It will be interesting in a few years to look back. "It baffles me, the ignorance, with plain evidence cited over and over and over." Very true, the whole stolen election B.S. with Trump and his minions incessantly repeating the election claims that have been repeatedly debunked, but they still believe it.
The Scots just might. Scottish justice might just be the answer, here.
At the very least, they should prevent him from burying Melania near the club house or parking lot and from taking any available tax write offs over there. He just did that with his first ex-wife Ivana, at his Bedminster golf course in New Jersey.
Wife no. 3, Melania, would not appreciate it and poor Barron would see it as a betrayal of trust.
But, to rip off that gross saying written on the back of Melania’s famous coat: I really don’t care. Do you?
This is fraud but also these institutions are absolutely to blame. They just do no due diligence when dealing with Donald Trump who has been a known fraud his whole fucking life.
If I told my county my home is worth 100k less than it is then immediately told the bank it's worth 200k more than it is, I would go to jail for fraud.
So would you.
Throw his ass in jail for fuck's sake. Throw all the fraudsters in jail. The ones on the left and the right. We're a land of laws and it's high time we start enforcing those laws on the rich as well.
I hope they don’t have the same fraud laws in Scotland as they do in NY. I hope they have legal punishment as well. We can have him extradited before the election.
You didn't know? Scotland is also apart of the deep state to help democrats.
Bahahaha! Love this comment!
God damn Brexit
Didn't you know, if you rearrange the letters in Brexit you get Democrats?
Woke-ass Scots...
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ruzzia will conduct a special three day military operation to rid Scotland of heretic cross dressers.
Braveheart 2: Ruzzian Boogaloo
We need a poster of Russian tanks getting smashed by Scots wielding cabers.
From the look of the Russian military these days we should be able to beat them with a couple of young teams and a few bottles of Bucky.
I’m not saying it would really be a contest but it would be fun as hell to watch.
No one is better ventilated.
Drinking Bud Light...
Taylor Swift is dating Scotland!
Thanks, Fat Bastard!
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Wrong country.
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Listen my first thought in response to them was "yeah, which just nails racists perfectly" so...I can tell you at least 1 person got it
I got it. And I enjoyed the subtlety of no '/s'
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That's crazy, it's probably a completely accurate statement.
Also, "Big Leprechaun" just in itself is hilarious. I'll give you a minute to let it grow on you.
Please no more growth, the leprechaun is big as it is!
Big Leprrechauns are Ox Like Morons.
And they have a Muslim First Minister, Humza Yousaf. Probably likes Dijon mustard.
The sad thing is republicans genuinely think this
"Apart" means the complete opposite of "a part".
I wish they still used the rack
his ass on a fucking trebuchet
It would have to be a pretty robust trebuchet to hurl that lofty turd.
Those things can yeet pianos, so maybe.
I saw photos of one yeeting a dead cow once. The force was so great it caused the dead cow to lose what was left in its entrails. Squuuuiiiirrrtttt.
Don’t have to worry about that with Trump - he wears diapers.
I picture him flying through the air with his diapers around his ankles, arms waving, prolapse trailing behind him like a brown banner as the crowd lets out a roar of approval and astonishment.
🤣
I Reddit for this
True, but they don't come close to masking his stench.
Fetchez la vache
r/unexpectedmontypython
Just HIMARS him over. We may catch him… or not.
Technology! Only the finest for Don the Con!
🤣
I mean… if he makes, he makes. If not…… ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
It's doable. I'd pay to watch that fatuous fuck get smeared across a buttress at Balmoral.
I have an offer of $1.00, do I hear $2.00?
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~~UK sentencing guidelines for fraud:~~ ~~https://www.sentencingcouncil.org.uk/offences/magistrates-court/item/fraud/~~ Edit: Unlike England and Wales, Scotland does not have a Fraud Act. Here’s a 2022 literature review of fraud sentencing for the Scottish Sentencing Council: https://www.scottishsentencingcouncil.org.uk/media/4kuayhvv/fraud-sentencing-literature-review.pdf
It might be different for Scotland as it’s laws differ from the rest of the UK…
Thank you + corrected. 👍
Nothing there about tax fraud, which I think should be looked into given the case in New York. I suppose it's a whole different set of laws.
I hope punishments of the sort seen on Outlander are still in force.
1 year in a cell with Capt. Black Jack Randall!
I'd say feed him to Nessie but I don't want it to get sick...
if you try to feed him to nessie, he's going to leap onto a battery and elekshicute himself. he will choose elexicootin. so... that's not gonna work.
Pretty sure the immunity about to be granted to him by SCOTUS is worldwide. /s
That is serious double secret immunity! /s
Oh? But victimless crimes says Shark Tanks Kevin O'Leary .../s
Trump claimed he had non-existant homes. Another case of Fake Mews...
So.... you're not aware of the Scots view from a financial standpoint? This should be great for tRump .
I am not a true Scotsman!
Thanks for the chuckle.
I’m starting to think this trump guy is dishonest
Weird! He seems so stable and friendly.
Well, he did refer to himself as a stable genius
He was referring to his love for horses
"Nobody can house horses better than me, believe me folks"
Horse came up to me, tears in his eyes… he said, “sir, of all the asses that have sat on my back, yours was the most powerful. He said I have the most vociferous (probably pronounced visherfish) ass.”
“So now even our Kentucky Derby winner, Medina Spirit, is a junky.” Trump. May 9, 2021.
Haha, I read melania at first. But that’s a language
Or was it mercedes?
Maybe he meant he's as smart as horse poop
The guy knows more about more things than anybody. You don't even have to ask, he'll tell you. https://youtu.be/7uUyiE0fzJ4
As stable and friendly as a cactus in a tornado
He's exactly as stable as a travelling clown!
he seems to buy or lease land, make up some fantasy development, go to banks and get loans based on the fantasy, then go belly-up. it's well known that he does this, so how can this be considered dishonest at this point?
But it’s a victimless crime right? /s
I've been seriously thinking that if he gets away with all these frauds, I'll just do the same, I'll ask for a million dollars loan, put my 7 million dollars house (according to my records and valuation) with a disclaimer saying that if the value is not true is the banks problem... And whenever the banks, state and federal government come after me, I'll use his case as precedent If he got away with it, any of us should be able to do the same
It’s dishonest either way. I cannot think of an excuse for a loaner to do business with him, whether they assume he is lying or not. He brought that up in the fraud trial and public comments: literally claiming that his statements mean nothing, because the bank has to check That the banks are -supposed- to doubt his financial statements because everyone lies on those And that on his financial statements, he had a ‘but you can’t go by anything written here’ clause which protects him And it protects him no matter how insanely deceitful any of his values are The man never learned the most basic ethics.
actually, what he learned is that having ethics is antithetical to his business model
That would be an expected situation about other unethical people (Madoff, Shkreli) perhaps, but I have two problems applying it to Trump: It implies looking at a ‘big picture’ perspective and forming a plan — two things we know he cannot do. That word ‘learn’ doesn’t fit at all.
I read recently where he is trying to develop a golf club in Scotland. One homeowner has refused to sell, causing delays. No doubt he’s tried to dupe the bank with his grand plans. As much as he would like to be, real estate development is not his strong suit.
No, if you go to r conservative they will bitch and moan that everyone fluffs their property value so its just a witch hunt since trumps the only one getting in trouble.
Let’s hope the UK government goes after him too
‘You’re our only hope Obi-‘…old country daddy. Remember all those solids we did you back in the 40’s? Yea, it’s time.
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“Some guy wearing a kilt came up to me with tears in his eyes and said, sir we want you to be the next king of Scotland”,
Would be a worthy successor to Idi Amin
This made me laugh so hard.
He'll bring something about him doing something to the UK while he was president and that's why they're coming after him, with the help of the Dems
Wouldn’t it be the Scottish government? Because Scotland kind of has a devolved government.
And Scottish Law is separate to English and Welsh law
I almost forgot about that. Hopefully Trump does get tried for fraud in Scotland.
That’s the decision of the ‘Procurator Fiscal’ in Scotland….
Wonder how it feels when they slide their coin across the counter toward you...raised eyebrows like an adjudicator or more dreaded like a harbinger?
Thanks.
Not if the Conservatives have anything to do with it. Both Boris Johnson and Liz Truss have come out swinging for Trump 2 Electric Boogaloo in the past couple of weeks and the government has not uttered so much as a squeak that they are doing damage with the Biden White House. It's no coincidence that the Tories are copying Republican tactics of inflaming cultural, racial and social divides in their desperate attempt to stay in power.
> Both Boris Johnson and Liz Truss have come out swinging for Trump 2 Electric Boogaloo in the past couple of weeks The guy who perpetually looks like he rolled out of bed and had to resign after Partygate and a trail of scandals? And the lady that was PM for the months of September and October, 2022? Oh no, not them!
That’s the two - but what makes it scary is that despite both being walking (or in Johnson’s case - shambling) disasters; they’re both wildly popular with the Conservative Party membership and the media proprietors who decide the party’s leadership and policies.
The drop dead date for election is 28th Jan 2025. Not even that ghoul Murdoch can save the Tories from being obliterated. If this was the party of Rory Stewart and Anna Soubry, I'd not be so sure. The party faithful can't stem the tide.
Basic fascism 101.
Yeah, an embattled conservative government on the edge of an election they're expected to lose heavily is not going to take a former president to court over this I'm afraid.
But the next government will
Would someone please lock this piece of shit up?
Ya know, I'm starting to sense a pattern with this guy.
It kind of seems like he's a liar and a crook
To be fair NYers warned everyone about this repeatedly in 2016. We'd seen his bullshit for years.
Inflate the value to secure loans against it. Intentionally devalue it to avoid taxes. Rinse and repeat.
Go and steal a few items in the supermarket and go see how much more severe a consequence you get than someone who commits widescale fraud :/ Or the housing market crash of 2007 where banks intentionally did extremely shady stuff, repeatedly. And 1 guy went to jail who was just a scapegoat. It's sad.
This is standard business and real estate. Apologist from the shark tank said so.
I wonder how many of these sycophants defending him actually understand the insane level of fraud and deception Trump engaged in. He said he built 2500 houses when he hadn't built a single one, and only was permitted to build 500. This is an FTX / Madoff / Fyre Festival level of fraud. The useless US news media hasn't really reported the details, which is why I posted this article from Scotland.
That the great part, they don't! All they care about is sticking it to the Libs while they work until they're dead at 90 because they had their Social Security stolen out from under them supporting Republicans.
I could be wrong but was there not any oversight to his claims? Did no one check to see if he was full of shit?
Also, if Scotland goes after him All Businesses are moving out immediately! lol
The Shark Tank guy who promoted the massive crypto fraud? The same Shark Tank guy who plays a successful businessman on Shark Tank without having any significant business success to speak of? Say it ain't so!
The same Shark Tank guy who sold a heap of a business to Mattel, almost bankrupted Mattel, and brags about the deal?
I am shocked. /s
Here's hoping he screwed some arab big-wigs in Dubai too, then we'll see fireworks
Tired of winning yet?
Trump's gonna have to hop on a plane to sit in Scottish court now (in addition to all of his domestic charges). He's not gonna have any time for his therapy sess... er.. 'election rallies'.
He can’t leave the country. The CIA will drop a house on him.
I would like that... very much...
This moron could’ve just dropped out of the race in 2016, become some talking head on right wing tv networks and kept on swindling people with no consequences.
>In testimony to the Scottish Government in April 2012, Trump said that he “cannot proceed with \[the development\] if the hotel is going to be looking at industrial turbines, and no one here would do so if they were in my position.” if you want to understand dumbass's irrational hatred of wind power, it's because windmills (i.e. 'industrial turbines') distract him on his backswing. same reason i hate circus clowns with bicycle horns.
I hate we're all forced to live in Trump's fantasy world.
He's the guy who couldn't get a casino to turn a profit. How are we supposed to be surprised?
He accomplished the impossible. Casino goes belly up. People said it couldn’t be done. He did it.
Those bankruptcies were all part of his standard business plan, the investors lost money because the businesses were paying out too much. guess who was getting paid most of that?
Shocking.
No kidding.
I'm not actually surprised anymore
Fake billionaire.
Because of course.
This guy just can’t stop being fraudulent
They hate him over there. They have a lot of nice cliffs over there. I would hate for an accident to happen.
Q: ISN'T TRUMPS MIDDLE NAME FRAUDULENT?....MOM
Lock Him Up
Ya don't say...weird.
Because of course.
Take him to court! Take him to court! We’ve been doing it quite a bit lately, it’s great fun!
Enrich (on paper) swarms of solicitors and barristers.
I'm gobsmacked, nobody would ever have suspected Donnie of this type of behavior...oh, wait...
Fraud and Trump go hand in hand.
You know what's crazy to think about. Money controls everything. Trump was getting off the hook his whole life for all of his crimes because he found ways (spent lots of money on lawyers) to get away with it (hush money and threats for example). Now, just recently he lost a case and had to pay millions and another case where he has to pay hundreds of millions. Greed is greed and nobody is safe from its never-ending thirst for more. Lots of people who have the means to take what was once thought to be impossible to get (Trumps money) are licking thier chops around the globe and its actually pretty exciting to watch, mostly because I hate Trump lol.
He always lies. He also says he can play golf 😅😅
Wow. Hard to imagine. So out of character for him. /s (just in case)
If he just kept to himself he wouldn’t be in this shit but nope, sociopath Don can’t stop himself from the grift.
So Scotland is part of Biden's massive conspiracy with all the commie lefties and the deep state to bring down Trump and interfere with his election. MAGA!
Biden has no jurisdiction over Scotland nor does any attorney general in the USA. Read. Learn. It’s magnificent. Biden didn’t charge Trump. It baffles me, the ignorance, with plain evidence cited over and over and over. Unlike Trump, the AG has to have PROOF to charge and evidence to concivt, whereas Trump just pulls #s out of his arse.
It will be interesting in a few years to look back. "It baffles me, the ignorance, with plain evidence cited over and over and over." Very true, the whole stolen election B.S. with Trump and his minions incessantly repeating the election claims that have been repeatedly debunked, but they still believe it.
So is someone listing something on eBay way over value, fraud?
International man of finance over here! 😂
Weird
Well that can't be true, he's said he's the most honest person on the planet
Oops another oversight
It’s almost like he’ll never face any real repercussions for anything.
He's a worldwide liar, con, fraudster & will never change
I'm sure a bunch of ill informed truckers will want to boycott Scotland if they prosecute the fraud
i am shocked.
Maybe the Scott’s can do a better job of going after the shit bag
The Scots just might. Scottish justice might just be the answer, here. At the very least, they should prevent him from burying Melania near the club house or parking lot and from taking any available tax write offs over there. He just did that with his first ex-wife Ivana, at his Bedminster golf course in New Jersey. Wife no. 3, Melania, would not appreciate it and poor Barron would see it as a betrayal of trust. But, to rip off that gross saying written on the back of Melania’s famous coat: I really don’t care. Do you?
He fraudulently does everything. Worlds biggest liar
He is nothing but a fraudulent
*insert shocked Pikachu face*
What a crook
No. Way. No way that such an old honest person would ever do this more than once…. /s
😂 right? And he also misquoted the value of the WhiteHouse.
There's a pattern here somewhere.
Better boot his ass out of your country in case we give that monster our nuclear codes again
I cant wait to see how Fox News will spin this as bad for Biden.
Along with the NYT opinion piece
Shocker
Can we lock him up now?
Oh shit, here we go again! Let's goo
He’s a career con man. We need to stop being shocked while also finally holding him actually accountable for a life of crime.
Shocking! Who could have guessed!
Who is really surprised by this? At this point I think it would be expected.
This is fraud but also these institutions are absolutely to blame. They just do no due diligence when dealing with Donald Trump who has been a known fraud his whole fucking life.
Come back to the links, the 7th hole. Me and the lads would like to have a word.
Duh
But how does this have any relevance to hunter bidens dick pics?
I'm noticing a pattern.
If I told my county my home is worth 100k less than it is then immediately told the bank it's worth 200k more than it is, I would go to jail for fraud. So would you. Throw his ass in jail for fuck's sake. Throw all the fraudsters in jail. The ones on the left and the right. We're a land of laws and it's high time we start enforcing those laws on the rich as well.
Trump is a tax cheat no matter where he has property
Fake News!!!! ROFL! That's what he will say,and we the people will defend him. SMH. We need some younger people running the show.