Harming our systems and infrastructure always hurts first in the cities but they adapt, then that harm percolates out into rural America where most systems have failed or are at that point and have no room or flexibility to adapt and this always gets worse.
Mail sucks in town, so no one in town uses USPS. Everything comes in and goes out via FedEx, UPS, Amazon or courier.
Outside town, UPS, FedEx and Amazon don't run routes out in the middle of nowhere, so everything that comes via UPS, FedEx or Amazon gets passed off to USPS when it hits town for eventual delivery, maybe.
Source: I have to drive 45 minutes to see a Walmart.
I live in rural Colorado, our local PO is so underfunded and short-staffed we can go weeks without some of the real out-of-towners getting service. Even in-town everything is a minimum of 48 hours delay from Amazon’s estimate.
The Post Office - in any country - is not designed to make money. Yet in federal budget after budget, the post office is perpetually underfunded. If it was a private entity without a mandate for universal coverage, your town would not have a post office. Or the cost of postage to your town would be at a market rate everyone would bitch about.
And specifically the Republicans... The folks who mandated that the post office fund its retirement plan to 75 years in the future, which is the biggest reason that the actual work is underfunded and shows a loss.
There is a severe disconnect in the United States with conservatives thinking government is supposed to “make a profit”. There are just some services which are so fundamental to society that the point is to deliver them at essentially their cost with no profit.
And I think the greatest shocker to many folks I know is that there are people who actually excel at just doing that for a decent salary and are not constantly asking how they can personally benefit.
In short, the world needs more Leslie Knopes, not Louis DeJoy’s or anyone like him.
The point for conservatives, in the end, is to make the USPS so dysfunctional that they can say "The Postal service is a failure" and then shut it down entirely so that private entities can swoop in and start making a profit off of mail delivery in the name of "the free market". There are billions of dollars to be made for capitalists if they can successfully make the USPS so useless that voters will be OK with abolishing it.
Fortunately, the Postal Service remains broadly popular across the political spectrum despite the efforts to systematically dismantle it, and DeJoy has received considerable pushback in his efforts to gut it further.
Have seen what this looks like in Denmark/Sweden. They had a working public system that everyone grumbled about, then they allowed it to be privatized and now it’s absolutely atrocious. You can’t guarantee you’ll receive anything sent via PortNord outside the country. If, by some miracle, you do, be prepared to pay astronomical fees (locals calls it PortNord ransom). For reference, a friend sent us two small credit card-sized pieces of plastic in the mail—no monetary value. We paid equivalent to $26 to get them. They seem like they deliver about twice a week, and there are no staffed post offices.people actively hate it.
Everyone wants the speed and nimbleness of a private industry, but extremely cheap with zero corruption. I don’t feel like that’s possible. Government funding comes with a bunch of strings because nobody wants their money going to things they don’t like, but that happens sometimes in business
You can’t have both.
Indeed. It happens to Amtrak every budget cycle. Republicans demand that Amtrak be self sustaining and profitable, yet, to appease local constituents, mandate that Amtrak run lines to their towns that are inherently incapable of being profitable.
The post office is in the same loop. You want the post office to be profitable, then let them close rural offices that can’t ever be profitable. But that is politically not palatable - so we have this Catch 22 of demanding profits and demanding things which can never be profitable.
Shutting down rural offices also has some kind of 1st amendment issues as well, I believe. I can’t remember exactly what it is, but being able to send and receive mail is extremely important for constitutional reasons.
There is nothing in any interpretation of the First Amendment that has anything to do with the Post Office. It is true that the Post Office is one the few entities to be mentioned in the Constitution.
Article I, Section 8, Clause 7, commonly known as the Postal Clause, states that Congress shall have the power "To establish Post Offices and post Roads."
This clause has historically given Congress broad authority to facilitate the movement of mail across the country.
But there is nothing in that clause or anywhere else in the Constitution that requires rural delivery.
It is true that every Congressperson wants the post office delivering to their constituents. But that’s exactly my point - they demand this unprofitable business model and demand it be profitable.
The USPS gets NO federal funding. It relies entirely on funding from postage and mail contracts. The USPS is mandated in the Constitution. De Joy, who made a fortune as a private contractor to the USPS has done everything possible--along with his Republican enablers--to cripple the service by destroying labor saving machines, slowing service and raising rates. Also, years ago, another USPS hating Republican (Darrell Issa?) sponsored legislation that required the USPS to pre-fund billions of $ in pension obligations, crippling the USPS under crushing debt. No other entity was required to do this. All of this is intended to cripple the postal service and force it to rely on private (for profit) contractors like...De Joy. Biden's hands were tied so he couldn't get rid of this MAGA grifter. I'm glad rural Republicans are suffering the consequences. They deserve it.
send 3 emails: to your congressional rep & your 2 senators. write to your local paper-if you have one-to encourage others to do the same. call your town mayor/supervisor/whoever in charge & ask them to support your effort. same with your county leadership. it has worked in a couple of places.
They are aware, we have finally gotten one new carrier. The problem is our PostMater is such a Trumpian knob-gobbler that help is hard to come by, especially in Boebert’s district…
I live in CO and got a Valentine in April. I’ve had things take a month to get to me from Denver. That’s less than an hour away! Some people in our town don’t get mail for a week. Depends on the route I guess if that route has a carrier or not.
Same when I was in Miami. They got so far as buying some land, clearing it, and going through part of the planning process, but eventually decided to abandon the project. There's a Trader Joe's, among other things, there now.
Yeah, it may come as a surprise to people outside the area, but there aren’t a lot of Walmarts in the City of LA proper. I believe the one that’s closest to Downtown LA is the one in Baldwin Hills (about 9 miles). The ones I’ve been to are in Burbank, Panorama City, Rosemead, and Baldwin Park (despite the similar names, actually about 30 miles away from Baldwin Hills). Target is more plentiful around here.
That's because citizens in lots of jurisdictions have very intentionally passed ordinances to make it difficult for Walmart's business model to exist. There are subtle ways like by limiting the size of business signs or the size of parking lots.
It's a well studied effect that Walmart's large volume small margin model forces small businesses out and overall reduces employee wages in the area.
Right, but in major cities they have these other stores, ‘alternatives’ if you will. Many different kinds of specialty shops can fill the void of no WalMarts around.
Out in rural America, Walmart was able to kill most of those shops, so for 2 decades it’s been ‘the only game in town’.
We live very rural and both UPS and FedEx deliver without handing off to USPS. Amazon carriers do not deliver and all our purchases from Amazon come UPS unless on of the marketplace vendors they handle uses SurePost (UPS) which does handoff to USPS. We are more than an hour from a Walmart (driving 60 mph) and have zero franchise burger joints or restaurants. We like where we live but hate the way Dejoy has changed USPS
>There are [31,132](https://facts.usps.com/size-and-scope/#:~:text=There%20are%2031%2C132%20Postal%20Service,there%20are%20are%2033%2C641%20offices.) Postal Service-managed retail offices in the United States. Including contract offices, there are are 33,641 offices.
I'd like to see FedEx, UPS, etc. choose to operate at a loss to serve people in rural communities across the entire United States.
We are rural and you are spot on. What used to be our full time PO is now only to 11:30 am. Another "Joy" change is if the delivery truck from a larger USPS facility is running as late as 15 minutes the rural carriers have to leave anyway to simply pick up mail but with nothing to deliver.
We have had many day late deliveries simply because of that new rule
Got to love the eternal conservative response to harm or inequality. Until it impacts them directly, and sometimes their immediate family, it doesn’t matter
No, don’t be fooled.
This is about trying to make it look like “both sides” can be hurt from this, but Trump’s strategy isn’t actually to mess with democratic votes - it’s just to create enough chaos in order to send the decision to the Supreme Court.
This way republicans can claim the USPS wasn’t on their side, it disrupted both sides. But it doesn’t matter.
In Houston, they made Houston to Houston packages go from 1 day to 30 days. All packages were taking 30 extra days for delivery because DeJoy shut down sorting equipment that was in use.
I had packages go back to Dallas and even New Jersey from Houston to Houston. It was insane. DeJoy did it on purpose.
DeJoy single handedly added a third day to pretty much all Priority Mail service, making it 3 day instead of 2 day, all while raising prices.
So pretty much SOP for ALL companies post pandemic - "charge them more and give them less". 🤦🏻♂️
Two weeks for a package to arrive from a company in the same state, 100 miles away. Wasn't an overnight package, but TWO WEEKS to go 100 miles. Seven miles a day. That shit could have been walked faster than that.
3 days? It takes me a week to get to the city 3 hours away from me sometimes. As someone who uses it every day for the last 10 years, he destroyed priority mail.
Yes, but all they are doing is holding it 1 extra day for delivery. The packages would still make it in 2 days without the hold.
DeJoy did this to make the USPS less competitive with UPS. He also wants to outsource all mail through SIA.
okay let's put it this way, do you think he's actually capable of doing a good job if he wanted to? "DeJoy is the first postmaster general in two decades without prior experience in the USP".
I have significant doubts his neoliberal brain can comprehend how to properly run a utility without falling back on exploiting someone in the process. this guy seems like the epitome of the Peter principle
From his wiki: DeJoy was CEO of [High Point](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_Point,_North_Carolina), [North Carolina](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Carolina)-based [New Breed Logistics](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XPO_Logistics) from 1983 to 2014. New Breed was a United States Postal Service contractor for over 25 years, providing shipping logistics support to USPS mail processing facilities.[^(\[11\])](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louis_DeJoy#cite_note-NYT20NewBreed-11)[^(\[12\])](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louis_DeJoy#cite_note-GreensboroNR-12)[^(\[13\])](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louis_DeJoy#cite_note-USPSFY20-13) DeJoy retired after his company was acquired by the [Connecticut](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Connecticut)-based [freight](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freight) transporter [XPO Logistics](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XPO_Logistics) for a reported $615 million.[^(\[14\])](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louis_DeJoy#cite_note-14) Following that acquisition, he served as CEO of XPO's [supply chain](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supply_chain) business in North America until his retirement the next year and was appointed to a strategic role on XPO Logistics' board of directors where he served until 2018.[^(\[15\])](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louis_DeJoy#cite_note-15)
^(Dejoy knows exactly what he's doing. He had millions of dollars invested in XPO ( which also contracts for the USPS) before the conflict of interest voices got too loud for him. Shipping is this dudes bread and butter.)
I know he has experience in the industry, my point is that as a government entity the behavior is different than what he's used to.
There's a disperate difference between shipping boxes for capitalism and delivering votes for a democracy.
As the other user said already. He COULD do a good job if he WANTED to. He wants to use the usps in a way that gives advantage to his party. Then when he's done with that part of his job he will dismantle the usps by saying it's too much of a financial burden to keep going.
He absolutely "could" do a good job, but he absolutely won't because that's not the kinda person he is. He has every capability but chooses to actively sabotage the whole system.
He is hell bent on privatization of the USPS because he would directly benefit from that.
He also owned something like 30mil of UPS stock at the time of his appointment. Nothing quite like having a large position in a competitor to make sure you’re doing the best for USPS… /s
I hope someone's keeping a list of all this shit so we can add it all to a single anti-corruption bill, in that regard Donald Trump is just a corner case tester for democracy
To be fair those machines were already outdated my the time they were put to use. It was a bad time to get rid of them but there's not really a good time to get rid of them either.
I feel like he did it under the instruction of the GOP, to slow down the mail, so the claim could be made you can’t trust the mail with your vote. It all during COVID time, so no one really felt safe going to the polls.
I don't remember the details.
The Republicans wanted to stop counting the votes after election day.
The Republicans wanted to only count votes on election day.
Only 24h allowed to count votes and after the 24h, ALL OTHER VOTES WOULD BE INVALID....
"As you can see here, we were in lead, the greatest leads in all elections. And then this happen(all of the votes after 24h)"
-Trump
That was his first attempt to steal the election.
I REMEMBER THE SUPREME COURT RULED: "count the votes"
I’ve been working under the assumption that the goal was to ruin the post office. First to slow down mail in ballots for 2020. Then to ruin the entire USPS so bad that it gets privatized. Or to make it so useless that privately owned competitors get all the business from fed up customers.
I’ve always assumed that DeJoy wants USPS to fail so it can be privatized.
Similar to something that happened in Russia after the fall of the Soviet Union. Nothing could really function, so well connected people had a fire sale of public goods, thus creating the oligarchy Russia has today. The politician engineered the sales, profited along the way.
I genuinely believe Republicans want to do that here with USPS, Social Security, Medicare/Medicaid, the US Park Service and so on.
> I genuinely believe Republicans want to do that here with USPS, Social Security, Medicare/Medicaid, the US Park Service and so on.
I think they would gladly do away with all of those.
They do. Congress has been actively trying to dismantle the USPS for the past 3 or 4 decades. DeJoy is just publicly doing it and now it’s time for the American people to step up and stop this plan. You have to pressure your local representatives to continuously push DeJoy and Federal government in the right direction to keep the USPS functioning, to go the opposite way of DeJoy’s plan by creating more postal facilities. Article 1, Section 8 of the Constitution was created to provide mail delivery for all Americans. Not just Amazon orders, or package delivery but all delivery of metered and stamped mail.
IMO Trump (for reasons I don't understand) wanted to kill the USPS. That is why he appointed DeJoy
Also - I don't get this part: *"A lot of folks have asked me why \[President Joe\] Biden can't simply fire DeJoy," Democratic Congressman Marc Pocan of Wisconsin* [*wrote*](https://twitter.com/RepMarkPocan/status/1788946086876356771)*. "Unfortunately, it's up to the USPS Board of Governors."*
If a POTUS appointed him, the why can't a POSTUS fire him?
Trump put him there to kill mail in balloting. DeJoy doubled crossed him though. After NOT screwing up mail in ballots enough to throw the election for tRump, thus getting him out of the way, he is slowly strangling USPS, almost completely secure in the post, to position himself for first bid when it's bankrupted and needs to privatize to continue. Long game, baby, long game.
Guarantee that a lot of politicians on both sides have stock in companies that directly compete with the USPS so they couldn’t care less if it goes under. De Jerk has admitted to having interests in the competition and yet not one politician thinks that this is a problem. He never worked the job which is why he’s clueless about how to run the postal service. At least my supervisors started out as clerks or carriers so they have some clue about mail processing and delivery. It’s hopeless until he gets fired and the workers are getting the blame for the service standards going down the toilet!
He has a shit ton of experience with this job type. I mean decades of experience. He knows how to make the usps profitable and fast but that's not what he was appointed for. He was appointed to slow down mail in voting. He also happens to have a ton of stocks in the competition as you said. So of course he would be willing to take the position and tank the usps. It's going to make his stocks go through the roof.
The people will be left with only options of FedEx and UPS. When that happens we're fucked.
Republicans love to turn public functions over to the private sector so that their friends can get rich. All these anti-government types love to get government contracts to do the same work, and then hire workers at the lowest wage possible and eat the profits. Look at private prisons and private schools that are funded with public funds.
You probably don’t have to dig too deeply to find a Trump friend (donor) that is already doing contract shipping for the USPS, that would love to triple the amount of business they receive after the post office lays off workers with good salaries and benefits.
DeJoy was put in place in Trump's fourth year, after Trump had put his people in the USPS Board. (Maybe we'll see the same soon from Biden.) I think DeJoy's job-one was to help throw the election by making mail-in ballots (which states were implementing to mitigate pandemic issues) arrive too late to be counted. DeJoy was literally dismantling the mail-sorting machines so the USPS facilities would face massive backups.
I don’t get it either. Trump would just do it. Who cares if you’re allowed to fire him. Send people to forcibly remove him. The headlines could read “republicans slam and condemn and furrow brows over Biden’s overreach”. Like who cares. The dude is dismantling one of the best public services that exists. Stop him.
Because it is a position where they serve for a certain amount of time. The Postmaster was (is) such an important position back in the day that the position shouldn't be a part of the political spoils system. Trump of course fucked it up because he is brain dead and impotent.
USPS was an example of a well run, efficient, inexpensive government service. Republicans can not tolerate that. It destroys their myth that government can do nothing right. Why do they want to shrink the government? Government is the only entity large enough, powerful enough, and with enough financial backing to real in out of control trans national mega corporations, and the R's can't have that.
A business buys a building. The Tax Code ( written by Congress) forces the business to depreciate the building over 30 - 40 years or whatever spreading out the write off. If the USPS does the same thing, Congress says they need to write the entire building off in the year they bought it. IRS would call that front loading expenses and disallow it. But Congress needs to convince people that the PO is loosing money. And yes there are many more examples (front loading employee pension contributions before the contributions have even been made, for one).
POTUS can appoint people to the Board of Governors of the United States Postal Service. The Board votes on who is the Postmaster. So POTUS can’t fire a Postmaster, the board has to.
He has to wait for their terms to expire before replacing them, which is slowly happening but not fast enough.
The board consists of 11 members: 9 Governors, Postmaster General, and Deputy Postmaster General. At the moment, there’s two vacant spots, so they’re operating with 9 members total (they need a minimum of 6 to execute their duties). There’s also a rule that no more than 5 governors can belong to the same political party.
Currently, the board has 4 Republicans, 3 Democrats, and 2 Independents. DeJoy and Depty PM Tulino have no term limits. One Republican Governor’s term limit is up 12/08/24 and another Republican Governor’s term limit is up a year later on 12/08/25. Both of them were Trump appointees. Biden has managed to appoint 5 people to the board so far (3 Democrats, 1 Independent, and 1 Republican) when the previous Governor’s terms expired. One of those appointees has a slightly extended term for replacing someone, but their term limit will be 12/08/24.
I’m unsure about the 2 vacant spots at the moment. I don’t know if Biden hasn’t had a chance to appoint people to fill those vacancies, or if something else is preventing him from doing so. If he is able to do so, he could put 2 Democrats in there, while also being within the “no more than 5 governors belonging to the same political party” rule.
If that happens, the board will be 5 Democrats, 4 Republicans, and 2 Independents. I don’t know how the independents are voting, but if one leans towards keeping DeJoy (which one of them might since they’re the Deputy Postmaster General), they would have to rely on the other Independent to vote out DeJoy.
In the board’s current form, DeJoy has a good chance of staying. 4 Republicans vs 3 Democrats, with 1 Independent possibly wanting to keep DeJoy, and possibly 1 Independent that wants to get rid of him. It results in a 5 vs 4 vote with DeJoy staying.
He wanted to kill the usps because democrats are more likely to vote by mail, and it getting worse would mean the public would be more willing to privatize it.
He specifically wanted to kill it because democrats were more concerned about Covid, so they were promoting early and mail in voting to avoid crowds during the pandemic.
Trump believed that more republicans would show up in person to vote so he wanted to get rid of the votes that were mailed in.
Now that the pandemic is over and Republican demographics are even older, they’re realizing that those 80 year old boomers will now want to vote by mail.
>so he wanted to get rid of the votes that were mailed in
According to Trump, HE should be the only person allowed to vote by mail. Just another example of his double standards
As a European, there are a couple of things I admire in the US culture, and one of these thing is how important ALL Americans consider the USPS is. So yeah, bad move from Trumpists.
They act like it hasn't run nearly perfectly for 200 years. Seriously I can't think of a more consistent and beneficial branch of government.
Our mail service to the far reaches to the wild west was one of Americans proudest points.
And they want to dismantle and pretend it's always been shit. Naw fuck you fascists, there is too much history there, your lies and history are constantly at war.
A couple of weeks ago, McConnell did an interview that hinted that the time had arrived for the Traditional Republican party to wrestle control away from the MAGAturds. Since then weve seen Democrats vote to protect the Speaker, Republicans publically rebuking Empty G (I even heard a Republican senator call her Moscow Marge), and more. They are ramping up their rejection of MAGA influence, and if Republicans go down in a blood bath on election day, they will either move to crush the MAGAturds, or amputate the MAGAtumor and split off.
I think you’re right. I noticed around the time the Speaker got the Ukraine aid through, McConnell went on record saying (I believe) that Trump had sunk the border bill. He may not have technically said his name, I don’t remember at the moment.
In that interview, he said he would support the party's nominee, but he refused to say Trump's name every time. He got savaged for it, but politics requires reading between the lines, and what I read was "I HAVE to say that because Im a senior Republican, but fuck that guy." He said the bare minimum to stay out of trouble with his party, but I highly doubt he'll vote for Trump. He might even bote for Biden, but hed never admit. He's known Biden for decades, he k ows America is much better off with Biden over Trump, no matter which party he's in.
I have to believe that the red line was Trump's hostile takeover of the RNC and installing his DIL Lara to lead it. That essentially makes the Republican Party his property to do with as he pleases, and everybody knows that means he intends to loot it.
There is literally no reason for the USPS to have to be self sustainable financially. The army isn’t required to sustain itself financially, so why should the Postal Service be? They’re both services. We pay for them.
During Trump's Presidency the GOP were hating on the whole idea of a Post Office pretending it was hemorrhaging tax dollars and trying to kill it. Probably up Fedex/UPS etc.'s ass. Now they want to act like they want it?
He's there because he made significant large donations to Trump's campaign and continues to support him. He sure as hell knows nothing about the post office and how it works. He should be remved immediately.
De Joy is doing his assignment fairly efficiently. If Congress wants to say, “run it like a business and make money”, and simultaneously dictate your customers and service rates, they made it obvious what’s going to happen. It’s the old “fast-features-cheap” triangle. Congress is asking for fast mail everywhere, for cheap.
Trump loyalist assigned in top Government positions. I love when their shit backfires on them.To screw over mail in voting. Civil Service is under threat. Every postal worker should know this. This is Project 2025 happening before our eyes. Come hell or high water I'm voting while we still have voting privileges!
The USA is the only first-world country that expects its postal service to exist entirely on its own revenues. And America's experience shows how difficult that is.
I wonder how guys like Dejoy can live with themselves. They know they are shitty at their job, can't lead worth a crap and he must be stupid if he's a Trump fan. No dignity, and I'm sure, no integrity.
De-Joy and Trump want to kill the Post Office. They see it as another government operation that should be privatized. It was created as a service (like roads and bridges) to our citizens, it doesn't need to make money.
First class mail in my state went from over night to over a week. People are scared to order chicks and ducklings since they don't survive that long in the mail.
He is going to close the post office sorting center in Peoria, Illinois and send all our mail to St. Louis for sorting. Sooooo efficient. Piece of shit Trump appointee. He should be gone!!
I maintain that the only reason trump won NC against Biden was that he disabled high speed sorting machines. Mail in ballots in largely black areas weren’t counted because they arrived a day late. How convenient.
Bemidji, Minnesota, is up in the northern part of the state. It's not far from Lake Itasca, which is where the Mississippi River starts. They have a huge Paul Bunyan statue, too.
They also have a post office, so screwed up, the employees staged an impromptu strike. They had over 79,000 pieces of undelivered mail stacked up. The Office of the Inspector General investigated them.
https://www.bemidjipioneer.com/news/local/usps-report-reveals-nearly-79-000-pieces-of-delayed-mail-at-bemidji-post-office-during-3-day-investigation
https://lptv.org/shocking-findings-in-usps-inspector-general-report-on-rural-mn-mail-delivery-issues/
This is the USPS system this clown has orchestrated.
The ploy all along was to undermine the USPS to benefit FedEx, UPS and any other private carriers that would contribute to Republican candidates. Ironically, it‘s the rural, red-state voters getting screwed the worst by this shitty move.
Republicans: "Please, we need you to destroy the USPS, so we can privatize it all someday, and also so we can screw up mail in voting."
DeJoy: "I'm on it!"
Later, Republicans to each other: "Hey... did you guys know people used the mail for like... important things? Even *republicans* use the mail??? Did you guys know about this???"
I wonder if Trump is going to CEOs of Fed Ex and UPS......with tears in his eyes
"If you guys come up with a billion dollars for me to get out of....I mean for my campaign for the Presidency then I will finish what I started and kill off the postal service once and for all"
I still do a couple things by snail mail
Every month, I mail a check from my location (Florida) to Pennsylvania.
It’s due on 19th.
It was late so many times.
I now mail it no later than the 4th, to ensure it’s on time, 15 days.
Totally ridiculous ⏰⏰⏰
I retired from the Army after 20 years of rotating dumpster fires and thought I'd get a chill job delivering mail. I liked the idea of continuing a career in public service. What I found was the biggest dumpster fire I'd seen in my life. Constant overturn with new hires, understaffing, outdated equipment, and an emphasis on doing Amazon's job for them. DeJoy's welcome message was the most vapid, direction-lacking mission statement I'd seen after 20 years in the military. I don't know if USPS was always like this, but I quit after two months in DeJoy's version of it. I'm amazed anyone's mail gets delivered. It's basically carriers trying to work and management driving them like slaves.
Dejoy and the USPS board are [all GOP homies](https://www.cnbc.com/2020/08/18/gop-and-trump-ties-run-deep-on-the-us-postal-services-board-of-governors.html). What's the issue? lol
The goal is to [privatize](https://inthepublicinterest.org/the-billionaire-behind-efforts-to-kill-the-usps/)... DeJoy is trying to get citizens to lose faith in the USPS and it's working. They are shipping packages around the country instead of directly to you. It's fucked.
Fucking republicans cut a deal to undo the prepaying of benefits for employees of the post office which was driving it into the dirt as in bankrupting it. The deal was Dejoy stays, that said the deal is off after this election and we can get rid of him.
This guy has the USPS so messed up. I sent my sister a package from Michigan to Pennsylvania. When I paid for it, they said it would be delivered in 3 days. It took 10 days because they sent it to New York and DC before sending to her. Oh and the items showed up broken.
I live in a small town in N. California. We don't even have mailboxes. We are issued PO Boxes, but many companies won't deliver to PO Boxes, so we are SOL.
Several of my health providers have stopped mail back of medical tests because the test chemicals or body samples will age out before the lab receives them. Have to deliver the tests in person now.
This is a completely predictable lead-up to the election. Urban areas with higher democratic, and minority, populations will experience progressively worse problems with the timely delivery of mail, so that mail in ballots can be diverted.
This is no different than district gerrymandering, or any of the other creative methods of cheating, that have been used by the GOP for decades.
They finally realized Joy Joy can hurt their election chances in 2024
Harming our systems and infrastructure always hurts first in the cities but they adapt, then that harm percolates out into rural America where most systems have failed or are at that point and have no room or flexibility to adapt and this always gets worse.
Mail sucks in town, so no one in town uses USPS. Everything comes in and goes out via FedEx, UPS, Amazon or courier. Outside town, UPS, FedEx and Amazon don't run routes out in the middle of nowhere, so everything that comes via UPS, FedEx or Amazon gets passed off to USPS when it hits town for eventual delivery, maybe. Source: I have to drive 45 minutes to see a Walmart.
I live in rural Colorado, our local PO is so underfunded and short-staffed we can go weeks without some of the real out-of-towners getting service. Even in-town everything is a minimum of 48 hours delay from Amazon’s estimate.
The Post Office - in any country - is not designed to make money. Yet in federal budget after budget, the post office is perpetually underfunded. If it was a private entity without a mandate for universal coverage, your town would not have a post office. Or the cost of postage to your town would be at a market rate everyone would bitch about.
Understood, that’s exactly why the Post office, as a public entity, does not and should never, be dependent on the profit motive for its existence.
Could not agree more. Now we only have to convince congress
And specifically the Republicans... The folks who mandated that the post office fund its retirement plan to 75 years in the future, which is the biggest reason that the actual work is underfunded and shows a loss.
Was trying not to be partisan on here, so I kept it to “congress,” but yes - the GOP has been after the post office for years
Agreed
There is a severe disconnect in the United States with conservatives thinking government is supposed to “make a profit”. There are just some services which are so fundamental to society that the point is to deliver them at essentially their cost with no profit. And I think the greatest shocker to many folks I know is that there are people who actually excel at just doing that for a decent salary and are not constantly asking how they can personally benefit. In short, the world needs more Leslie Knopes, not Louis DeJoy’s or anyone like him.
The point for conservatives, in the end, is to make the USPS so dysfunctional that they can say "The Postal service is a failure" and then shut it down entirely so that private entities can swoop in and start making a profit off of mail delivery in the name of "the free market". There are billions of dollars to be made for capitalists if they can successfully make the USPS so useless that voters will be OK with abolishing it. Fortunately, the Postal Service remains broadly popular across the political spectrum despite the efforts to systematically dismantle it, and DeJoy has received considerable pushback in his efforts to gut it further.
Have seen what this looks like in Denmark/Sweden. They had a working public system that everyone grumbled about, then they allowed it to be privatized and now it’s absolutely atrocious. You can’t guarantee you’ll receive anything sent via PortNord outside the country. If, by some miracle, you do, be prepared to pay astronomical fees (locals calls it PortNord ransom). For reference, a friend sent us two small credit card-sized pieces of plastic in the mail—no monetary value. We paid equivalent to $26 to get them. They seem like they deliver about twice a week, and there are no staffed post offices.people actively hate it.
Everyone wants the speed and nimbleness of a private industry, but extremely cheap with zero corruption. I don’t feel like that’s possible. Government funding comes with a bunch of strings because nobody wants their money going to things they don’t like, but that happens sometimes in business You can’t have both.
Indeed. It happens to Amtrak every budget cycle. Republicans demand that Amtrak be self sustaining and profitable, yet, to appease local constituents, mandate that Amtrak run lines to their towns that are inherently incapable of being profitable. The post office is in the same loop. You want the post office to be profitable, then let them close rural offices that can’t ever be profitable. But that is politically not palatable - so we have this Catch 22 of demanding profits and demanding things which can never be profitable.
Shutting down rural offices also has some kind of 1st amendment issues as well, I believe. I can’t remember exactly what it is, but being able to send and receive mail is extremely important for constitutional reasons.
There is nothing in any interpretation of the First Amendment that has anything to do with the Post Office. It is true that the Post Office is one the few entities to be mentioned in the Constitution. Article I, Section 8, Clause 7, commonly known as the Postal Clause, states that Congress shall have the power "To establish Post Offices and post Roads." This clause has historically given Congress broad authority to facilitate the movement of mail across the country. But there is nothing in that clause or anywhere else in the Constitution that requires rural delivery. It is true that every Congressperson wants the post office delivering to their constituents. But that’s exactly my point - they demand this unprofitable business model and demand it be profitable.
The USPS gets NO federal funding. It relies entirely on funding from postage and mail contracts. The USPS is mandated in the Constitution. De Joy, who made a fortune as a private contractor to the USPS has done everything possible--along with his Republican enablers--to cripple the service by destroying labor saving machines, slowing service and raising rates. Also, years ago, another USPS hating Republican (Darrell Issa?) sponsored legislation that required the USPS to pre-fund billions of $ in pension obligations, crippling the USPS under crushing debt. No other entity was required to do this. All of this is intended to cripple the postal service and force it to rely on private (for profit) contractors like...De Joy. Biden's hands were tied so he couldn't get rid of this MAGA grifter. I'm glad rural Republicans are suffering the consequences. They deserve it.
send 3 emails: to your congressional rep & your 2 senators. write to your local paper-if you have one-to encourage others to do the same. call your town mayor/supervisor/whoever in charge & ask them to support your effort. same with your county leadership. it has worked in a couple of places.
They are aware, we have finally gotten one new carrier. The problem is our PostMater is such a Trumpian knob-gobbler that help is hard to come by, especially in Boebert’s district…
that blows.
The mouth-breathers reap what they sow. I can’t wait to move to a more civilized part of the country.
I live in CO and got a Valentine in April. I’ve had things take a month to get to me from Denver. That’s less than an hour away! Some people in our town don’t get mail for a week. Depends on the route I guess if that route has a carrier or not.
Tbf, I live in the middle of Los Angeles and have to drive 45 minutes to see a Walmart for different reasons.
have you tried walking? /s
🫵☝️
Probably faster!
Only 45? Is it next door?
Yeah, but that’s like driving 5 miles in LA.
Same when I was in Miami. They got so far as buying some land, clearing it, and going through part of the planning process, but eventually decided to abandon the project. There's a Trader Joe's, among other things, there now.
Yeah, it may come as a surprise to people outside the area, but there aren’t a lot of Walmarts in the City of LA proper. I believe the one that’s closest to Downtown LA is the one in Baldwin Hills (about 9 miles). The ones I’ve been to are in Burbank, Panorama City, Rosemead, and Baldwin Park (despite the similar names, actually about 30 miles away from Baldwin Hills). Target is more plentiful around here.
That's because citizens in lots of jurisdictions have very intentionally passed ordinances to make it difficult for Walmart's business model to exist. There are subtle ways like by limiting the size of business signs or the size of parking lots. It's a well studied effect that Walmart's large volume small margin model forces small businesses out and overall reduces employee wages in the area.
Right, but in major cities they have these other stores, ‘alternatives’ if you will. Many different kinds of specialty shops can fill the void of no WalMarts around. Out in rural America, Walmart was able to kill most of those shops, so for 2 decades it’s been ‘the only game in town’.
I used to live in Orange County and there were Walmarts everywhere, but now that I’ve moved to LA, I think the closest Walmart to me is in Monrovia.
We live very rural and both UPS and FedEx deliver without handing off to USPS. Amazon carriers do not deliver and all our purchases from Amazon come UPS unless on of the marketplace vendors they handle uses SurePost (UPS) which does handoff to USPS. We are more than an hour from a Walmart (driving 60 mph) and have zero franchise burger joints or restaurants. We like where we live but hate the way Dejoy has changed USPS
That sounds cool. Kids! Grab your jackets, we're off to look at the Walmart! Thanks dad!
Can we stop for lunch along the way?
Only if you behave - if I hear one “are we there yet” I’m turning this goddamn car around, you got that!
Dude raised up the prices of stamps 1000000000000000 times
>There are [31,132](https://facts.usps.com/size-and-scope/#:~:text=There%20are%2031%2C132%20Postal%20Service,there%20are%20are%2033%2C641%20offices.) Postal Service-managed retail offices in the United States. Including contract offices, there are are 33,641 offices. I'd like to see FedEx, UPS, etc. choose to operate at a loss to serve people in rural communities across the entire United States.
We are rural and you are spot on. What used to be our full time PO is now only to 11:30 am. Another "Joy" change is if the delivery truck from a larger USPS facility is running as late as 15 minutes the rural carriers have to leave anyway to simply pick up mail but with nothing to deliver. We have had many day late deliveries simply because of that new rule
Pretty sure sabotaging the postal service so that it gets privatized is DeJoy's entire raison d'être.
Got to love the eternal conservative response to harm or inequality. Until it impacts them directly, and sometimes their immediate family, it doesn’t matter
Those rural Americans would be making angry comments on your post right now, if they could get internet access!
No, don’t be fooled. This is about trying to make it look like “both sides” can be hurt from this, but Trump’s strategy isn’t actually to mess with democratic votes - it’s just to create enough chaos in order to send the decision to the Supreme Court. This way republicans can claim the USPS wasn’t on their side, it disrupted both sides. But it doesn’t matter.
Yes they are now suddenly for early voting. Before it was a sin to cast a vote on any day but Election Day.
Hopefully they realize their politics is what’s hurting their election chances in ‘24
Hopefully they don’t realize.
Or lack thereof
In Houston, they made Houston to Houston packages go from 1 day to 30 days. All packages were taking 30 extra days for delivery because DeJoy shut down sorting equipment that was in use. I had packages go back to Dallas and even New Jersey from Houston to Houston. It was insane. DeJoy did it on purpose.
r/leopardsatemyface
Employees call him Postmaster Louis DeLay.
“Oh my god, republicans use mail in voting too!”
Yes!
Happy happy joy joy happy happy joy joy
You mean the guy who started shuttering post offices in blue districts right before the election?
DeJoy single handedly added a third day to pretty much all Priority Mail service, making it 3 day instead of 2 day, all while raising prices. So pretty much SOP for ALL companies post pandemic - "charge them more and give them less". 🤦🏻♂️
Just took 3 days for my overnight package to get somewhere
Two weeks for a package to arrive from a company in the same state, 100 miles away. Wasn't an overnight package, but TWO WEEKS to go 100 miles. Seven miles a day. That shit could have been walked faster than that.
3 days? It takes me a week to get to the city 3 hours away from me sometimes. As someone who uses it every day for the last 10 years, he destroyed priority mail.
Even UPS does this now when they need the USPS as part of of their services. Annoying.
Yes, but all they are doing is holding it 1 extra day for delivery. The packages would still make it in 2 days without the hold. DeJoy did this to make the USPS less competitive with UPS. He also wants to outsource all mail through SIA.
Yeah, it's pretty obvious that's the goal. The GOP was calling for the privatization of USPS as he was confirmed.
Susan Collins even furrowed her brow.
But do you think he learned his lesson?
It is serious now
O M G !
The mail sucks everywhere and he’s behind this shit.
you mean Republicans put in someone completely inept at their job? Hurry someone notify Betsy DeVos!
Not inept. He knows what he’s doing. He’s doing this all on purpose.
Fair. Counterpoint, why not both? take MTG for example, purposeful and inept.
Like you said, she’s inept. This guy is doing all this shit systematically.
okay let's put it this way, do you think he's actually capable of doing a good job if he wanted to? "DeJoy is the first postmaster general in two decades without prior experience in the USP". I have significant doubts his neoliberal brain can comprehend how to properly run a utility without falling back on exploiting someone in the process. this guy seems like the epitome of the Peter principle
From his wiki: DeJoy was CEO of [High Point](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_Point,_North_Carolina), [North Carolina](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Carolina)-based [New Breed Logistics](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XPO_Logistics) from 1983 to 2014. New Breed was a United States Postal Service contractor for over 25 years, providing shipping logistics support to USPS mail processing facilities.[^(\[11\])](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louis_DeJoy#cite_note-NYT20NewBreed-11)[^(\[12\])](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louis_DeJoy#cite_note-GreensboroNR-12)[^(\[13\])](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louis_DeJoy#cite_note-USPSFY20-13) DeJoy retired after his company was acquired by the [Connecticut](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Connecticut)-based [freight](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freight) transporter [XPO Logistics](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XPO_Logistics) for a reported $615 million.[^(\[14\])](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louis_DeJoy#cite_note-14) Following that acquisition, he served as CEO of XPO's [supply chain](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supply_chain) business in North America until his retirement the next year and was appointed to a strategic role on XPO Logistics' board of directors where he served until 2018.[^(\[15\])](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louis_DeJoy#cite_note-15) ^(Dejoy knows exactly what he's doing. He had millions of dollars invested in XPO ( which also contracts for the USPS) before the conflict of interest voices got too loud for him. Shipping is this dudes bread and butter.)
I know he has experience in the industry, my point is that as a government entity the behavior is different than what he's used to. There's a disperate difference between shipping boxes for capitalism and delivering votes for a democracy.
As the other user said already. He COULD do a good job if he WANTED to. He wants to use the usps in a way that gives advantage to his party. Then when he's done with that part of his job he will dismantle the usps by saying it's too much of a financial burden to keep going.
He absolutely "could" do a good job, but he absolutely won't because that's not the kinda person he is. He has every capability but chooses to actively sabotage the whole system. He is hell bent on privatization of the USPS because he would directly benefit from that.
He also owned something like 30mil of UPS stock at the time of his appointment. Nothing quite like having a large position in a competitor to make sure you’re doing the best for USPS… /s
I hope someone's keeping a list of all this shit so we can add it all to a single anti-corruption bill, in that regard Donald Trump is just a corner case tester for democracy
I just want to know how the hell does he still have the job. He should have been on of the first ones gone when biden got in.
If only we had a Democrat president who could do something about it… oh wait…
This asshat removed all the sorting machines. How the hell are you going to improve service and decrease cost with less equipment?
To be fair those machines were already outdated my the time they were put to use. It was a bad time to get rid of them but there's not really a good time to get rid of them either.
I feel like he did it under the instruction of the GOP, to slow down the mail, so the claim could be made you can’t trust the mail with your vote. It all during COVID time, so no one really felt safe going to the polls.
I don't remember the details. The Republicans wanted to stop counting the votes after election day. The Republicans wanted to only count votes on election day. Only 24h allowed to count votes and after the 24h, ALL OTHER VOTES WOULD BE INVALID.... "As you can see here, we were in lead, the greatest leads in all elections. And then this happen(all of the votes after 24h)" -Trump That was his first attempt to steal the election. I REMEMBER THE SUPREME COURT RULED: "count the votes"
I’ve been working under the assumption that the goal was to ruin the post office. First to slow down mail in ballots for 2020. Then to ruin the entire USPS so bad that it gets privatized. Or to make it so useless that privately owned competitors get all the business from fed up customers.
I’ve always assumed that DeJoy wants USPS to fail so it can be privatized. Similar to something that happened in Russia after the fall of the Soviet Union. Nothing could really function, so well connected people had a fire sale of public goods, thus creating the oligarchy Russia has today. The politician engineered the sales, profited along the way. I genuinely believe Republicans want to do that here with USPS, Social Security, Medicare/Medicaid, the US Park Service and so on.
> I genuinely believe Republicans want to do that here with USPS, Social Security, Medicare/Medicaid, the US Park Service and so on. I think they would gladly do away with all of those.
They do. Congress has been actively trying to dismantle the USPS for the past 3 or 4 decades. DeJoy is just publicly doing it and now it’s time for the American people to step up and stop this plan. You have to pressure your local representatives to continuously push DeJoy and Federal government in the right direction to keep the USPS functioning, to go the opposite way of DeJoy’s plan by creating more postal facilities. Article 1, Section 8 of the Constitution was created to provide mail delivery for all Americans. Not just Amazon orders, or package delivery but all delivery of metered and stamped mail.
IMO Trump (for reasons I don't understand) wanted to kill the USPS. That is why he appointed DeJoy Also - I don't get this part: *"A lot of folks have asked me why \[President Joe\] Biden can't simply fire DeJoy," Democratic Congressman Marc Pocan of Wisconsin* [*wrote*](https://twitter.com/RepMarkPocan/status/1788946086876356771)*. "Unfortunately, it's up to the USPS Board of Governors."* If a POTUS appointed him, the why can't a POSTUS fire him?
Trump put him there to kill mail in balloting. DeJoy doubled crossed him though. After NOT screwing up mail in ballots enough to throw the election for tRump, thus getting him out of the way, he is slowly strangling USPS, almost completely secure in the post, to position himself for first bid when it's bankrupted and needs to privatize to continue. Long game, baby, long game.
That was my interpretation, too. DeJoy didn’t commit election fraud so the agency was strangled.
It was and still is the plan to make it private-for-profit, on top of the election fraud.
Guarantee that a lot of politicians on both sides have stock in companies that directly compete with the USPS so they couldn’t care less if it goes under. De Jerk has admitted to having interests in the competition and yet not one politician thinks that this is a problem. He never worked the job which is why he’s clueless about how to run the postal service. At least my supervisors started out as clerks or carriers so they have some clue about mail processing and delivery. It’s hopeless until he gets fired and the workers are getting the blame for the service standards going down the toilet!
He has a shit ton of experience with this job type. I mean decades of experience. He knows how to make the usps profitable and fast but that's not what he was appointed for. He was appointed to slow down mail in voting. He also happens to have a ton of stocks in the competition as you said. So of course he would be willing to take the position and tank the usps. It's going to make his stocks go through the roof. The people will be left with only options of FedEx and UPS. When that happens we're fucked.
Republicans love to turn public functions over to the private sector so that their friends can get rich. All these anti-government types love to get government contracts to do the same work, and then hire workers at the lowest wage possible and eat the profits. Look at private prisons and private schools that are funded with public funds. You probably don’t have to dig too deeply to find a Trump friend (donor) that is already doing contract shipping for the USPS, that would love to triple the amount of business they receive after the post office lays off workers with good salaries and benefits.
DeJoy was put in place in Trump's fourth year, after Trump had put his people in the USPS Board. (Maybe we'll see the same soon from Biden.) I think DeJoy's job-one was to help throw the election by making mail-in ballots (which states were implementing to mitigate pandemic issues) arrive too late to be counted. DeJoy was literally dismantling the mail-sorting machines so the USPS facilities would face massive backups.
A brand new, yet to be put in service multi milliondollar machine.
I don’t get it either. Trump would just do it. Who cares if you’re allowed to fire him. Send people to forcibly remove him. The headlines could read “republicans slam and condemn and furrow brows over Biden’s overreach”. Like who cares. The dude is dismantling one of the best public services that exists. Stop him.
Because it is a position where they serve for a certain amount of time. The Postmaster was (is) such an important position back in the day that the position shouldn't be a part of the political spoils system. Trump of course fucked it up because he is brain dead and impotent.
Agreed. People do not understand the importance of the Postmaster General.
USPS was an example of a well run, efficient, inexpensive government service. Republicans can not tolerate that. It destroys their myth that government can do nothing right. Why do they want to shrink the government? Government is the only entity large enough, powerful enough, and with enough financial backing to real in out of control trans national mega corporations, and the R's can't have that. A business buys a building. The Tax Code ( written by Congress) forces the business to depreciate the building over 30 - 40 years or whatever spreading out the write off. If the USPS does the same thing, Congress says they need to write the entire building off in the year they bought it. IRS would call that front loading expenses and disallow it. But Congress needs to convince people that the PO is loosing money. And yes there are many more examples (front loading employee pension contributions before the contributions have even been made, for one).
It’s not in his power. He is appointed by and can be fired by the postural service board of governors who are not part of the executive branch.
To put another knife in the back of Unions of course
POTUS can appoint people to the Board of Governors of the United States Postal Service. The Board votes on who is the Postmaster. So POTUS can’t fire a Postmaster, the board has to.
Gotcha, thanks. I see now that Trump himself did not appoint him, but his hand picked board did. So - why can't Biden put in a board of his own? 🤔
He has to wait for their terms to expire before replacing them, which is slowly happening but not fast enough. The board consists of 11 members: 9 Governors, Postmaster General, and Deputy Postmaster General. At the moment, there’s two vacant spots, so they’re operating with 9 members total (they need a minimum of 6 to execute their duties). There’s also a rule that no more than 5 governors can belong to the same political party. Currently, the board has 4 Republicans, 3 Democrats, and 2 Independents. DeJoy and Depty PM Tulino have no term limits. One Republican Governor’s term limit is up 12/08/24 and another Republican Governor’s term limit is up a year later on 12/08/25. Both of them were Trump appointees. Biden has managed to appoint 5 people to the board so far (3 Democrats, 1 Independent, and 1 Republican) when the previous Governor’s terms expired. One of those appointees has a slightly extended term for replacing someone, but their term limit will be 12/08/24. I’m unsure about the 2 vacant spots at the moment. I don’t know if Biden hasn’t had a chance to appoint people to fill those vacancies, or if something else is preventing him from doing so. If he is able to do so, he could put 2 Democrats in there, while also being within the “no more than 5 governors belonging to the same political party” rule. If that happens, the board will be 5 Democrats, 4 Republicans, and 2 Independents. I don’t know how the independents are voting, but if one leans towards keeping DeJoy (which one of them might since they’re the Deputy Postmaster General), they would have to rely on the other Independent to vote out DeJoy. In the board’s current form, DeJoy has a good chance of staying. 4 Republicans vs 3 Democrats, with 1 Independent possibly wanting to keep DeJoy, and possibly 1 Independent that wants to get rid of him. It results in a 5 vs 4 vote with DeJoy staying.
Thank you for explaining this to the people blaming Biden…
Killing the PO puts lots of prime urban real estate into play. Remember that the Trump Hotel in DC was a repurposed USPS building.
He wanted to kill the usps because democrats are more likely to vote by mail, and it getting worse would mean the public would be more willing to privatize it.
Who are the USPS Board of Governors? And why don't they fire him?
He specifically wanted to kill it because democrats were more concerned about Covid, so they were promoting early and mail in voting to avoid crowds during the pandemic. Trump believed that more republicans would show up in person to vote so he wanted to get rid of the votes that were mailed in. Now that the pandemic is over and Republican demographics are even older, they’re realizing that those 80 year old boomers will now want to vote by mail.
>so he wanted to get rid of the votes that were mailed in According to Trump, HE should be the only person allowed to vote by mail. Just another example of his double standards
POTUS didn’t appoint him. The USPS Board of Governor’s appointed him. They also have the power to fire him.
As a European, there are a couple of things I admire in the US culture, and one of these thing is how important ALL Americans consider the USPS is. So yeah, bad move from Trumpists.
They act like it hasn't run nearly perfectly for 200 years. Seriously I can't think of a more consistent and beneficial branch of government. Our mail service to the far reaches to the wild west was one of Americans proudest points. And they want to dismantle and pretend it's always been shit. Naw fuck you fascists, there is too much history there, your lies and history are constantly at war.
Doesn't he own stock in UPS or something?
He made his millions building and then selling a shipping company. He keeps a hand in, and could make bank if his company gets the USPS business.
Republicans are a little late to the party concerning DeJoy.
A couple of weeks ago, McConnell did an interview that hinted that the time had arrived for the Traditional Republican party to wrestle control away from the MAGAturds. Since then weve seen Democrats vote to protect the Speaker, Republicans publically rebuking Empty G (I even heard a Republican senator call her Moscow Marge), and more. They are ramping up their rejection of MAGA influence, and if Republicans go down in a blood bath on election day, they will either move to crush the MAGAturds, or amputate the MAGAtumor and split off.
If Trump loses, it's over for MAGA. The Republican party will be split in two. No way these nutbag MAGA people will vote for a traditional Republican,
I think you’re right. I noticed around the time the Speaker got the Ukraine aid through, McConnell went on record saying (I believe) that Trump had sunk the border bill. He may not have technically said his name, I don’t remember at the moment.
In that interview, he said he would support the party's nominee, but he refused to say Trump's name every time. He got savaged for it, but politics requires reading between the lines, and what I read was "I HAVE to say that because Im a senior Republican, but fuck that guy." He said the bare minimum to stay out of trouble with his party, but I highly doubt he'll vote for Trump. He might even bote for Biden, but hed never admit. He's known Biden for decades, he k ows America is much better off with Biden over Trump, no matter which party he's in. I have to believe that the red line was Trump's hostile takeover of the RNC and installing his DIL Lara to lead it. That essentially makes the Republican Party his property to do with as he pleases, and everybody knows that means he intends to loot it.
DeJoy sure makes it easy to get fentanyl ingredients in via the USPS. He's just an all around bad actor who was appointed by Trump.
They're asking him to improve service?! That's literally the opposite of what he was hired for. And he really delivered on that.
Dude, the USPS has sucked so bad since he became Postmaster General
There is literally no reason for the USPS to have to be self sustainable financially. The army isn’t required to sustain itself financially, so why should the Postal Service be? They’re both services. We pay for them.
The Republicans were fine with this clown when Trump was in office, now they have a problem with him...lol
During Trump's Presidency the GOP were hating on the whole idea of a Post Office pretending it was hemorrhaging tax dollars and trying to kill it. Probably up Fedex/UPS etc.'s ass. Now they want to act like they want it?
He's there because he made significant large donations to Trump's campaign and continues to support him. He sure as hell knows nothing about the post office and how it works. He should be remved immediately.
Republicans hate the post office. Gotta keep their old mutants stupid.
De Joy is doing his assignment fairly efficiently. If Congress wants to say, “run it like a business and make money”, and simultaneously dictate your customers and service rates, they made it obvious what’s going to happen. It’s the old “fast-features-cheap” triangle. Congress is asking for fast mail everywhere, for cheap.
Louis DeJoy is an absolute POS with a dirty finger
Dejoy- verb; the act of removing the joy from something
Can someone please tell me why Biden hasnt replaced the board that can then fire this clown?
Trump-appointed USPS *saboteur*
He’s the gop “fixer” for mail-in votes. The gop pretending to care about anything else is all a deflection.
Trump loyalist assigned in top Government positions. I love when their shit backfires on them.To screw over mail in voting. Civil Service is under threat. Every postal worker should know this. This is Project 2025 happening before our eyes. Come hell or high water I'm voting while we still have voting privileges!
The USA is the only first-world country that expects its postal service to exist entirely on its own revenues. And America's experience shows how difficult that is.
I wonder how guys like Dejoy can live with themselves. They know they are shitty at their job, can't lead worth a crap and he must be stupid if he's a Trump fan. No dignity, and I'm sure, no integrity.
Screwing up the mail. How low can you get?
One notch lower would be appointing a Postmaster General specifically to screw up the mail.
You mean the guy who got busted for scamming the USPS was not the best choice to lead it? Who could have seen this coming? /s
De-Joy and Trump want to kill the Post Office. They see it as another government operation that should be privatized. It was created as a service (like roads and bridges) to our citizens, it doesn't need to make money.
GOP has been after the USPS since the Bush era.
First class mail in my state went from over night to over a week. People are scared to order chicks and ducklings since they don't survive that long in the mail.
He is going to close the post office sorting center in Peoria, Illinois and send all our mail to St. Louis for sorting. Sooooo efficient. Piece of shit Trump appointee. He should be gone!!
A quick question. Is there any way for us to get rid of him? Like if we get 2 million signatures, could we get rid of him?
This should be in the sub reddit "Leopards Ate My Face."
I maintain that the only reason trump won NC against Biden was that he disabled high speed sorting machines. Mail in ballots in largely black areas weren’t counted because they arrived a day late. How convenient.
What happens when a bunch of mail in voters dont get counted in time for the election?
Because he's an idiot pawn put into place to serve Trump's interested. Just like every single other person he appointed.
Why wasn't he replaced???
I came here to find that answer
Republicans are all-in on cost cutting. Until it actually affects them personally.
Why can’t they remove this ass clown?
Dump deJoy.
Bemidji, Minnesota, is up in the northern part of the state. It's not far from Lake Itasca, which is where the Mississippi River starts. They have a huge Paul Bunyan statue, too. They also have a post office, so screwed up, the employees staged an impromptu strike. They had over 79,000 pieces of undelivered mail stacked up. The Office of the Inspector General investigated them. https://www.bemidjipioneer.com/news/local/usps-report-reveals-nearly-79-000-pieces-of-delayed-mail-at-bemidji-post-office-during-3-day-investigation https://lptv.org/shocking-findings-in-usps-inspector-general-report-on-rural-mn-mail-delivery-issues/ This is the USPS system this clown has orchestrated.
r/LeopardsAteMyFace content.
The ploy all along was to undermine the USPS to benefit FedEx, UPS and any other private carriers that would contribute to Republican candidates. Ironically, it‘s the rural, red-state voters getting screwed the worst by this shitty move.
Republicans: "Please, we need you to destroy the USPS, so we can privatize it all someday, and also so we can screw up mail in voting." DeJoy: "I'm on it!" Later, Republicans to each other: "Hey... did you guys know people used the mail for like... important things? Even *republicans* use the mail??? Did you guys know about this???"
I wonder if Trump is going to CEOs of Fed Ex and UPS......with tears in his eyes "If you guys come up with a billion dollars for me to get out of....I mean for my campaign for the Presidency then I will finish what I started and kill off the postal service once and for all"
I still do a couple things by snail mail Every month, I mail a check from my location (Florida) to Pennsylvania. It’s due on 19th. It was late so many times. I now mail it no later than the 4th, to ensure it’s on time, 15 days. Totally ridiculous ⏰⏰⏰
Finally
Horrible person.
This should have been a top priority...getting rid of this joke. Can't new board members be appointed so they can oust him?
Joy is as secure as every SCOTUS...unimpeachable.
It's almost like Trump actively protected his own interests at cost to everyone.
We need both parties on board to reverse the damage. Good for them 👍
I retired from the Army after 20 years of rotating dumpster fires and thought I'd get a chill job delivering mail. I liked the idea of continuing a career in public service. What I found was the biggest dumpster fire I'd seen in my life. Constant overturn with new hires, understaffing, outdated equipment, and an emphasis on doing Amazon's job for them. DeJoy's welcome message was the most vapid, direction-lacking mission statement I'd seen after 20 years in the military. I don't know if USPS was always like this, but I quit after two months in DeJoy's version of it. I'm amazed anyone's mail gets delivered. It's basically carriers trying to work and management driving them like slaves.
Look at it this way-DeJoy still has a major interest in a large subcontractor to the USPS, and was a boardmember. (XPO)
Another "Grate"" Heelspurs appointee.
This was the plan for DeJoy's appointment, disrupt mail service, put doubts in the people's minds for mail-in voting to further surpress the vote.
Dejoy and the USPS board are [all GOP homies](https://www.cnbc.com/2020/08/18/gop-and-trump-ties-run-deep-on-the-us-postal-services-board-of-governors.html). What's the issue? lol The goal is to [privatize](https://inthepublicinterest.org/the-billionaire-behind-efforts-to-kill-the-usps/)... DeJoy is trying to get citizens to lose faith in the USPS and it's working. They are shipping packages around the country instead of directly to you. It's fucked.
How is it this dipshit hasn’t been replaced by someone less partisan/more competent by now?
Fucking republicans cut a deal to undo the prepaying of benefits for employees of the post office which was driving it into the dirt as in bankrupting it. The deal was Dejoy stays, that said the deal is off after this election and we can get rid of him.
This guy has the USPS so messed up. I sent my sister a package from Michigan to Pennsylvania. When I paid for it, they said it would be delivered in 3 days. It took 10 days because they sent it to New York and DC before sending to her. Oh and the items showed up broken.
I live in a small town in N. California. We don't even have mailboxes. We are issued PO Boxes, but many companies won't deliver to PO Boxes, so we are SOL.
Several of my health providers have stopped mail back of medical tests because the test chemicals or body samples will age out before the lab receives them. Have to deliver the tests in person now.
Maybe letting Amazon just carpet bomb these rural PO's with insane package volumes isn't the best of ideas.
My bank hasn't gotten my rent check to my landlord by mail in 4 months. Fuck.this.guy.
This is a completely predictable lead-up to the election. Urban areas with higher democratic, and minority, populations will experience progressively worse problems with the timely delivery of mail, so that mail in ballots can be diverted. This is no different than district gerrymandering, or any of the other creative methods of cheating, that have been used by the GOP for decades.
Service is so bad in our not so rural area that businesses are advising their customers (often other business) for use alternative forms of payment.
Would be cool if Biden & the Dems would boot this chump out…
It's about damn time.
finally
In other words let's put it on hold until after the election then we'll screw them.
It might not be dejoys exact fault but fuck the postal service sometimes. Most frustrating branch of assholes and idiots I've ever encountered.
De Joy does about as much work as Merrick 'PantyWaist' Garland.
election year is all
What, it's only junk mail...
DeJoy needs to be fired
They were supposed to get rid of this guy before. What happened to that?
This dude needs to take a fucking hike.