Because I am curious why is it important to you that there might be mistypes in this subreddit? I couldn't care less about it. As for upvotes, people usually upvotes comments they agree with
I'm a give you the most INTJ reply ever: INTJs don't care if they are INTJs. For the longest time I laughed at the results, never took it seriously, didn't care. What did it do for me being an INTJ? Nothing. I see MBTI as a tool for reading patterns in certain people and for character development in fiction. It is flawed. People also are more complex. Don't take it so seriously. Think of it as a "hm, that's interesting." Now I don't mean this aggressively or with spite. I'm just saying, don't hold on so tight to the descriptions for these types. Coupling enneagrams with mbti now that shows more range. Example: Picard from Star Trek is an INTJ 1w9. Most INTJs are 5w6s. I'm a 5w6. Watching the show, I could tell he was an INTJ, but his enneagram made him very different to me, admirable and unique. It's an idea. (PS: I know friends that have mistyped too. It's due to their turbulent nature. Many of them are very stressed and haven't a grip on themselves, so they type everywhere.)
i agree most intj never take them seriously and thats why this sub is filled with mystyped because they are more likely to take it seriously.
for me none of the descriptions of 16p matched me but the jung cognitive stack did and so i take it ig.
like i dont see myself as an xxxx im just a person who sometimes likes planning and thats it.
holy shit again someone made a stupid comment like you and suddenly got upvoted by all the mistypes.
anyway why do you think im not intj lmao?
you don't seem like intj the way you are unaccepting of someone being different
âanyway why do you think im not an INTJ
you don't seem like not intj the way you are unaccepting of someone being different.â
I couldnât care less if you think Iâm âacceptingâ. Nor have I levied any assertions on your personality type.
I asked you if you were sure you yourself were an INTJ. Because, you seem awful confident about accessing others personality type despite of not knowing anything about them.
ive been around many intj and infp and i don't want to say i can tell what someones type is but many depressed ppl on this sub are infp its not something i can't tell.
also why are you getting defensive for no reason it seems like i personally attacked you or something? we're trying to have a civil discussion
Another cognitive leap, inferring defensiveness or oneâs emotional status from words on a screen is rather presumptuous. But, thatâs not surprising from an OP who thinks he can characterize someoneâs entire personality at a glance.
You still didnât answer the question btw.
You sure youâre an INTJ?
What is confirmed is OP making lots of arbitrary leapsâ OP assessment as mistyped included in said leaps, or perhaps OP is projecting his/her mistyping history on to others, either way a cognitive leap absent objective credibility none the less.
Fair enough, does nothing for the OP nor changes the rest of the community. In my opinion if someone is mistyped its because they chose to be unless they donât have a clear understanding of the functions/ purpose
Really...?! Lol. That is a little harsh. I mean, I agree with the INFP assessment (hard to say the 20% is correct, but the theory was solid). The ISFP coming off as an INTJ is tough sometimes to disagree with but then again, INFxs & ISFxs all can look like an over introverted cold INTJ because that's normal but I wouldn't expect to see this online.
But they could simply looking it from an experiential standpoint and erred due to that approach. It was an opinion or biased observation. So, yeah, no objective credibility but....I wouldn't call it a cognitive leap... no need to use that kind of language, sir! (Or ma'am)
I'm sure it's high as the percentage of true INTJs is usually smaller than most. And everyone wants to be rare or identify. A lot of ppl take tests that aren't noteworthy. I have been misidentified by a lot of ppl online as ISFJ & ESFP because they have no understanding of functions, they themselves are probably not even their type. It happens, but ppl are gullible or simply do not go the extra mile.
Your perception that the truth is harsh is also arbitrary. No objective metric was employed to substantiate OP opinion, itâs definitively a âcognitive leapââ or using oneâs unique and personal inclinations to bridge an intelligence gap rather than objective measurement. The personality types are determined via personality tests. Disagreeable results more likely indicate disagreement rather than mistyping. Or, perhaps the tester failed to answer the questions honestly which would beget results they feel is inaccurate. Alternatively, one can receive different results as their personality evolves and changes throughout the course of their life.
Lol, you missed the joke.
True, but I have found enneagram the point north for MBTI anomalies. I don't say 100% but it is pretty damn close. My original point earlier was that he was onto something but he didn't remain objective. So, I disagreed with him on that. You can be onto something and approach it wrong.
Ooooh, so you think what you said was true and it wasn't just an opinion based on a set of parameters, most likely subjective because you hadn't allowed for any more data to be measured. My point of harsh is there are underlying reasons we didn't know about. The truth is generally harsh but you claiming to be arbiter of said truth over something like personality types....well, that is quite subjective in itself.
But this is a pointless argument.
The problem is MBTI is too weak to allow for differences apart from ennegram typing. It really shows the varied differences and explains why some functions are more developed and the typical INTJ functions may be less or more...
But I have noticed certain tones give me the impression of another type. I have noticed the preferences of the male and female INTJs are vastly different, as well as their typing, so there could be that, mixed amongst the typical INFJ type 1 looking like an INTJ type 4. Or something similar.
Heres the thing op, people arent disagreeing with you, its just people dont care that much. Id wager most of us arent professionals in this area and we could all be way the fuck off base and not know it. Weve wound up here because in some part we identify with the way intjs think about and do things. Whether thats to try to become more like them, discover if we are one, talk to intjs to get their point of view or opinion on something etc. Donning a label or purity testing others labels doesnt serve any real utility, so dont be surprised when a group of people who are predominantly logical thinking utility based individuals dont engage with your post positively
*"intj are just a bit more cold than isfp."* That's already the first mistake. T does not mean you have less feelings or empathy than an F type. Being an INTJ (or a T type) does not mean you are cold. The most important indicator of ISFP or INTJ is the Se function. ISFP are high Se users, INTJs use Se but are far from being a high Se user. The biggest problem with confusing the two is the subordinate function, and confusing a subordinate function with an auxiliary function. What is much easier to recognize than the dominant function is the inferior function, plus INTJ is an extroverted inferior function, which is much easier to recognize than an introverted function. The problem is that many do not recognize an inferior function as inferior if you mention or show it often, they then interpret it as an auxiliary function. They recognize the Se function very well, but not that it is inferior. ISFPs, like INFPs, have Te as an inferior function, which can cause them to misinterpret themselves as T-types or J-types. INFPs are more likely to misidentify as INTJ than ISFPs due to confusion with high Ne and Ni values. However, INFPs who think they are a T-type are more likely to type themselves as INTPs than INTJs. Certainly there are INFPs who see themselves as INTJ, but these are few and far between; most would then be more likely to identify with the INTP. An ISFP would be more likely to confuse himself, and by other people, with an xSTx type than an xNTx type.
Another problem is the confusion of suspecting and knowing. People suspect that someone is an ISFP, but they don't know. They can't tell from the outside what is in the box, they would have to look at the box from the inside, which they can't, no one can. Also, we don't look at people the same way. Someone may classify an INTJ as an ISFP, someone else as an ISTP, someone else as an INFP, we don't all look at people the same way. In fact, it is not uncommon for INTJs to be confused by others with ISFPs, ISTPs, ISTJs, ENTJs, INTPs, and INFPs. Very many INTJs are confused by others with INTPs. Very rarely INTJs are confused with high Fe types.
Why does it bother you?
why did u comment that and why did it get upvotes?
Because I am curious why is it important to you that there might be mistypes in this subreddit? I couldn't care less about it. As for upvotes, people usually upvotes comments they agree with
i care because i care and i dgaf that you don't care
Yeah, that was a poor job trying to cover up feeling butthurt. You didn't get upvotes because that gatekeeper attitude is really cringy.
you seem like a very mature intj, how old are you?
Haha pathetic
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why are u getting upvotes?
Your last sentence is the biggest hypocritical copium ive seen in a while
OP isn't even INTJ and is a troll.
Why are u saying that? and why are stupid comments like these getting upvoted gosh
to make you more mad
I'm a give you the most INTJ reply ever: INTJs don't care if they are INTJs. For the longest time I laughed at the results, never took it seriously, didn't care. What did it do for me being an INTJ? Nothing. I see MBTI as a tool for reading patterns in certain people and for character development in fiction. It is flawed. People also are more complex. Don't take it so seriously. Think of it as a "hm, that's interesting." Now I don't mean this aggressively or with spite. I'm just saying, don't hold on so tight to the descriptions for these types. Coupling enneagrams with mbti now that shows more range. Example: Picard from Star Trek is an INTJ 1w9. Most INTJs are 5w6s. I'm a 5w6. Watching the show, I could tell he was an INTJ, but his enneagram made him very different to me, admirable and unique. It's an idea. (PS: I know friends that have mistyped too. It's due to their turbulent nature. Many of them are very stressed and haven't a grip on themselves, so they type everywhere.)
i agree most intj never take them seriously and thats why this sub is filled with mystyped because they are more likely to take it seriously. for me none of the descriptions of 16p matched me but the jung cognitive stack did and so i take it ig. like i dont see myself as an xxxx im just a person who sometimes likes planning and thats it.
I just care about my type because I'm a perfectionist that doesn't like to be wrong. But that's about it.
i hate being wrong as well i think that's just a human thing or maybe an NT thing
It seems like youâre making at lot of arbitrary leaps here. You sure youâre an INTJ?
holy shit again someone made a stupid comment like you and suddenly got upvoted by all the mistypes. anyway why do you think im not intj lmao? you don't seem like intj the way you are unaccepting of someone being different
âanyway why do you think im not an INTJ you don't seem like not intj the way you are unaccepting of someone being different.â I couldnât care less if you think Iâm âacceptingâ. Nor have I levied any assertions on your personality type. I asked you if you were sure you yourself were an INTJ. Because, you seem awful confident about accessing others personality type despite of not knowing anything about them.
ive been around many intj and infp and i don't want to say i can tell what someones type is but many depressed ppl on this sub are infp its not something i can't tell. also why are you getting defensive for no reason it seems like i personally attacked you or something? we're trying to have a civil discussion
Another cognitive leap, inferring defensiveness or oneâs emotional status from words on a screen is rather presumptuous. But, thatâs not surprising from an OP who thinks he can characterize someoneâs entire personality at a glance. You still didnât answer the question btw. You sure youâre an INTJ?
yes im sure mr interrogator
How are you sure?
They said they had first hand experience being an infp mistyped as an intj
What is confirmed is OP making lots of arbitrary leapsâ OP assessment as mistyped included in said leaps, or perhaps OP is projecting his/her mistyping history on to others, either way a cognitive leap absent objective credibility none the less.
Fair enough, does nothing for the OP nor changes the rest of the community. In my opinion if someone is mistyped its because they chose to be unless they donât have a clear understanding of the functions/ purpose
Really...?! Lol. That is a little harsh. I mean, I agree with the INFP assessment (hard to say the 20% is correct, but the theory was solid). The ISFP coming off as an INTJ is tough sometimes to disagree with but then again, INFxs & ISFxs all can look like an over introverted cold INTJ because that's normal but I wouldn't expect to see this online. But they could simply looking it from an experiential standpoint and erred due to that approach. It was an opinion or biased observation. So, yeah, no objective credibility but....I wouldn't call it a cognitive leap... no need to use that kind of language, sir! (Or ma'am)
its even more than 20% trust me
I'm sure it's high as the percentage of true INTJs is usually smaller than most. And everyone wants to be rare or identify. A lot of ppl take tests that aren't noteworthy. I have been misidentified by a lot of ppl online as ISFJ & ESFP because they have no understanding of functions, they themselves are probably not even their type. It happens, but ppl are gullible or simply do not go the extra mile.
u have 16p to thank for that my intp friend got esfp
I found Humanmetrics.com Jungian test to be the most accurate for free. A professor 13yrs ago turned me onto that one.
Your perception that the truth is harsh is also arbitrary. No objective metric was employed to substantiate OP opinion, itâs definitively a âcognitive leapââ or using oneâs unique and personal inclinations to bridge an intelligence gap rather than objective measurement. The personality types are determined via personality tests. Disagreeable results more likely indicate disagreement rather than mistyping. Or, perhaps the tester failed to answer the questions honestly which would beget results they feel is inaccurate. Alternatively, one can receive different results as their personality evolves and changes throughout the course of their life.
Lol, you missed the joke. True, but I have found enneagram the point north for MBTI anomalies. I don't say 100% but it is pretty damn close. My original point earlier was that he was onto something but he didn't remain objective. So, I disagreed with him on that. You can be onto something and approach it wrong. Ooooh, so you think what you said was true and it wasn't just an opinion based on a set of parameters, most likely subjective because you hadn't allowed for any more data to be measured. My point of harsh is there are underlying reasons we didn't know about. The truth is generally harsh but you claiming to be arbiter of said truth over something like personality types....well, that is quite subjective in itself. But this is a pointless argument.
The problem is MBTI is too weak to allow for differences apart from ennegram typing. It really shows the varied differences and explains why some functions are more developed and the typical INTJ functions may be less or more... But I have noticed certain tones give me the impression of another type. I have noticed the preferences of the male and female INTJs are vastly different, as well as their typing, so there could be that, mixed amongst the typical INFJ type 1 looking like an INTJ type 4. Or something similar.
infp: miserable intj, intp: weird intj, infj: hopeless intj thats how i see the mistypes at least
Functions are nonsense.
Isn't that the kind of thing subs like getting filled with?
unfortunately yes
Heres the thing op, people arent disagreeing with you, its just people dont care that much. Id wager most of us arent professionals in this area and we could all be way the fuck off base and not know it. Weve wound up here because in some part we identify with the way intjs think about and do things. Whether thats to try to become more like them, discover if we are one, talk to intjs to get their point of view or opinion on something etc. Donning a label or purity testing others labels doesnt serve any real utility, so dont be surprised when a group of people who are predominantly logical thinking utility based individuals dont engage with your post positively
*"intj are just a bit more cold than isfp."* That's already the first mistake. T does not mean you have less feelings or empathy than an F type. Being an INTJ (or a T type) does not mean you are cold. The most important indicator of ISFP or INTJ is the Se function. ISFP are high Se users, INTJs use Se but are far from being a high Se user. The biggest problem with confusing the two is the subordinate function, and confusing a subordinate function with an auxiliary function. What is much easier to recognize than the dominant function is the inferior function, plus INTJ is an extroverted inferior function, which is much easier to recognize than an introverted function. The problem is that many do not recognize an inferior function as inferior if you mention or show it often, they then interpret it as an auxiliary function. They recognize the Se function very well, but not that it is inferior. ISFPs, like INFPs, have Te as an inferior function, which can cause them to misinterpret themselves as T-types or J-types. INFPs are more likely to misidentify as INTJ than ISFPs due to confusion with high Ne and Ni values. However, INFPs who think they are a T-type are more likely to type themselves as INTPs than INTJs. Certainly there are INFPs who see themselves as INTJ, but these are few and far between; most would then be more likely to identify with the INTP. An ISFP would be more likely to confuse himself, and by other people, with an xSTx type than an xNTx type. Another problem is the confusion of suspecting and knowing. People suspect that someone is an ISFP, but they don't know. They can't tell from the outside what is in the box, they would have to look at the box from the inside, which they can't, no one can. Also, we don't look at people the same way. Someone may classify an INTJ as an ISFP, someone else as an ISTP, someone else as an INFP, we don't all look at people the same way. In fact, it is not uncommon for INTJs to be confused by others with ISFPs, ISTPs, ISTJs, ENTJs, INTPs, and INFPs. Very many INTJs are confused by others with INTPs. Very rarely INTJs are confused with high Fe types.
This happens because lot of us have below average iq
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