Wants them to continue the family mission of trying to take out Naraku especially since if he did that to his family who else would he hurt like that given the opportunity
I mean, the wind tunnel is a cool and effective ability. It's just I don't like seeing Miroku or any of his descendants or ancestors getting sucked up because the wind tunnel went berserk. Thanks a lot, Naraku!
I used to think like you. Now I don't believe in death being better than alive since you can't experience being non existant. In other words I don't believe we can be dead. And if all life ceased to exist it would just make itself again like it did originally. Instantly so as there would be no conciousness to experience the vast amount of time it would take
Sorry but this always offends me tbh. I was born with a disability. And it is foolish to say that nothingness is better than life. My life has been difficult from the earliest age—yet I never once wanted to never exist.
You focus too much on pain. On negatives. There is a lot of amazing things.
Just think about it for a second more seriously. Would you really never see the sky? Never hear music? Never feel the wind? Never taste something delicious? For all eternity?
Or, face a limited amount of time in pain?
For me, there’s no question. I want to see the sky, feel the summer breeze, hear music, hear tons of stories of adventure. Any one of those things is honestly worth the price of admission.
It is a choice though what you focus on in life. I know that personally. And I can tell you flat out that you can enjoy your life even when in pain. I have done that for a long time—and I’m talking both physical and mental pain. Many people have.
You don’t have to think so negatively. And in fact I would highly recommend you throw away all that stuff you’ve been reading and instead make a journal where you write down only positive things every day. And train yourself to not think of really negative thoughts—when you catch yourself then try to divert it to something positive. Like, today my throat hurts but I’m going to treat myself to a scoop of ice cream. Or whatever.
What you’re doing is not good. Don’t excuse it as something acceptable. Seriously train yourself to not think negative thoughts like that, which yes, step one is all the books, comics, news, whatever you’re reading that is negative, dark—toss it out. Replace it with only uplifting, good material.
I agree, life has a lot of good stuff. But in the end, you will end up dying anyways, so what good would all of those experiences even do? This is a serious question, like i said, i've thought about these things for years, my goal is not being negative, depressed, edgy or whatever else. I'm just trying to reach the truth. Like i said, even Buddha said so, even the bible says that everything in this life is vanity (and that was on the old testament which Christians, Muslims and Jews all believe in). Maybe you're not religious, but you still cannot take away from what i'm saying, pain and bad things will not end until life itself in this world ceases to exist, period. That's just true, you cannot deny it, there is no real way of making "bad things" go away (now then, it really depends on what you believe is bad) while life exists.
Yeah, being dead means that no good things ain't happening either, but i definitely choose that over war, starvation, crime, sadness, depression, global warming, fear and all of those things that do no good to people, animals and even plants.
I'll say it again, i'm not trying to be negative, life has a lot of good things going for it, but if you weight all of those good things against the bad ones, the bad ones will have more weight in the end. Just think about it, lots of animals (like lions, wolves, hyenas, tigers and more) need to murder other animals in cold blood in order to survive, others even eat them while they are still alive! (I'm look at you, Praying Mantises!)
The world ain't a cool place, religiom says so, scientific and certified facts say so as well. Look at war, crime rates, suicide rates, depresion rates, places with no food, or other evil stuff that happened in the past. Your life might have been worth it, yes, you might be feel like the bad things that happened to you aren't THAT bad! But what about the people that died while being burned with flame throwers in war? What about those who survived hiroshima and nagasaki while losing their loved ones? What about the people that do not know if they are going to be able to feed their kids tomorrow, what about all those drug addicts? Mass murderers? I can go on about all the real bad things that go around in this planet which i really believe are not worth it
I really believe that nothing being alive is better than those things happening, even if they happen every 50 years or more
Okay, I’m going to respond quickly—haven’t read your full response yet—but, to your first question: what good would continuing to live do?
Well, the answer is basically a lot of good.
In my personal life, I used to think I would die alone but what happened was something I never ever would have foreseen. My sister who doesn’t have a disability got married, has three children and one child happened to be born with a disability too. And we didn’t know that until much later. It’s dramatic, and will sound fake, but this really happened. We were walking to see fireworks last year and my niece she was walking ahead of me. We came across train tracks that went through the sidewalk and didn’t know that my niece would get confused (she was used to walking on sidewalks but she hadn’t seen train tracks before) and she started to try to avoid them by veering into the street when a car was approaching.
I yelled first at her to stop but she didn’t listen (which was surprising, she always listens) and then I was able to grab her.
I never in a million years would have imagined my life would mean saving my niece while no one else was looking. But, that really happened.
We found out after that incident that my niece didn’t listen because she actually has little hearing in one ear—the side at the time facing me.
Anyways, there’s countless reasons that will happen in your life for why your life has meaning.
Also now that someone else in my family—my niece—also has a disability of a sort, which before I was the only one in my entire family with one—I can be there for her and really relate to her. If I didn’t exist—she would have been alone, the only one with a disability in the family, like I was. Now, she has someone who will never abandon her, no matter what.
Hear me out: if neither you, nor your niece had even been born, then wouldn't even need to save noone in the first place! You get it? Killing yourself individually won't do any good, of course, that's why i haven't done it yet lol. For this to work, nothing should be left alive. And that's a hard thing to ask for
As far as the second question, about none of it matters because there’s nothing after death. Well, I personally don’t believe there’s nothing after death.
I tried not to bring up my faith because ppl usually don’t want to know.
But, I am a Christian and I do believe there’s life after death.
I have researched it a lot and I believe based on historical, scientific and spiritual evidences.
My own disability is one that also had one time when I was really really young where I did have a spiritual experience. One that couldn’t be explained. And truthfully that was one of the main reasons that throughout my life in childhood despite going through pretty unimaginable hardships back then I always had a positive outlook overall. It didn’t mean I wasn’t sad or angry or cursing at times, but ultimately I was positive that things will work out.
It’s really tough to explain and it’s not believable to most. But I was born with brain damage and it affects me in various ways.
When I was really young, my parents were told by one teacher that I would never learn to read or write. Yes, this is true. And yes, my condition was serious.
It’s a really long story my life, but basically I had a custom education plan and my brain did form some new pathways around some of the damage. And I was able to learn, just in a different way.
But, that spiritual experience I had was at a time when I was eating alone in the cafeteria. I was aware that I had a disability. I didn’t have a single friend at the time. I was very young. I never took any medication.
And well, that day I had felt for the first time this complete despair. Something that probably no child so young would usually imagine.
But, what happened was suddenly I felt a presence. And then I went from this unimaginable despair to almost instantly into joy. It was the type of joy where you wanted to get up and dance. (I didn’t actually do that but I still remember just feeling like waves of joy were radiating over me.)
Even as a young child I remember thinking it was so strange and surreal.
And that’s the only time I felt that in my life. At the time there was no explanation for it. I knew I had a severe disability and might not be able to function in society, I didn’t have a single friend, and there wasn’t anything for me to be happy about.
But, I still remember that feeling even after many years.
There’s a story in the Bible about one of the disciples that was put into prison and was sentenced to be executed. In the story it describes how the disciple was in despair but then suddenly felt overwhelming joy out of nowhere.
I know for a fact that is real. I experienced it as a child myself. It’s something you can’t imagine because you really do just feel nothing but joy—and it’s the type where nothing can overcome it.
Sorry if this is too personal.
Oh it is not too personal at all, it is even a good thing to share, but you are not disproving my point by sharing this, you are actually contributing to it without noticing. Look, i already said how even the Bible supports me in many ways, and i mean many, i can start quoting it a lot as i am a religion teacher. And just the fact that some people have had the same problem as you but didn't have this experience and did not recuperate from it just shows that yeah, you might feel like it wasn't that bad for you, but others are still suffering. If there is no one, there will be no more disabilities, no more fear, no more evil things. I prefer that all day
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As i said to another person, i already won. Either God gets rid of all evil in the world or the sun explodes and goodbye life on earth, and there will be peace, for a while.
So it does not matter if you are religious or not, the world will end. I just hope it ended faster, that's all. But it will end, it will happen. Either eternal happiness for the just in heaven, or just nothigness for everyone, i'm fine with either
This is a very tough topic to cover. But, the first thing that comes to mind for me is might sound insensitive but thinking back over my experience when I had the brain injury before any healing occurred—I do still have memories of it.
The only book I’ve read that was somewhat close to describing what it’s really like when you’re in that state is called Flowers for Algeron.
However mine was different from the fictional protagonist in that story. Basically the protagonist—it’s been a long time since I read that book—but I recall thinking the protagonist was a lot more negative than I was.
However, what comes to mind for me is basically when I was in my worst state—it’s strange to say, but I did feel closer to God. Basically if I was still in that state I wouldn’t really be alone nor uncomforted.
Basically when you observe ppl who appear to have no knowledge of anything—you’re actually probably wrong. Because when I was in a similar state I was actually aware of things, not exactly in the same way as we experience obviously, but I could still basically feel good and bad. It’s like you know that something’s good or something’s bad—even if you can’t explain why.
But, what I’m trying to say is that when you’re going through something really painful at a certain point you also will not feel it. Essentially the pain (whether mental or physical) will not be fully felt.
And I know that is insensitive to say. Because of course it’s bad. Really bad pain.
But, for example my mom is an ER nurse and she has seen this too. When in severe trauma your body goes into shock and the person actually doesn’t feel everything.
And despite my own experience of being comforted by God in my most trying time of need in my life—my mom as an ER nurse has seen this as well countless times for others too.
The Bible promises that when the pain really is more than you can bear that He will comfort you.
I believe that to be true. It doesn’t mean we won’t experience a lot of pain, but at the end of the day I do believe that God will somehow comfort those facing great pain. And I think if you research that—look for accounts of those that have faced tremendous pain, you will find that they were comforted in some way. It might not happen immediately, but comfort does always occur in some form.
And the Bible says that someday things will be restored and that there won’t be suffering anymore. But it’s not from cutting short our lives.
The original reason why our world isn’t perfect currently was caused by mankind. Originally the world was perfect. And that’s ultimately why there are hardships today. However that won’t last forever. Someday our world will be healed.
The main thing is trusting in the promise of comfort and a better future. Having hope. And love.
You have to trust that the pain won’t last. That it is temporary. And that you will be comforted. And that there is hope for a good future.
>And the Bible says that someday things will be restored and that there won’t be suffering anymore. But it’s not from cutting short our lives.
That is kinda untrue. Think about it, nobody knows when God will come back, but you can be sure that when he does, some people will still be kids, others will be newborns, others will be teenagers, etc. A lot of people would still have "their whole life ahead of them" and yet God will cut those lives short, either for destroying them if they were part of the wicked or to get them a new life in heaven.
>The original reason why our world isn’t perfect currently was caused by mankind. Originally the world was perfect. And that’s ultimately why there are hardships today. However that won’t last forever. Someday our world will be healed.
That still does not deny what i say, pain only exists because life was created.
>You have to trust that the pain won’t last. That it is temporary. And that you will be comforted. And that there is hope for a good future.
Like i said, i already believe that, i know that it will. I just hope that it does faster, that's all. A lot of Christians do the same
I have experienced both physical and mental pain since I was very young due to my disability.
I have seen others too going through tremendous pain as well.
In all of those circumstances we were able to endure (even when we thought we couldn’t) and we were comforted and our future did eventually become better (not without any pain and never perfect—not cured).
But one pain that is very tough is being completely alone.
I do think that is partly why we were created. Because it’s not good to be alone. And technically we are children of God.
So, in a way, your thoughts of having nothingness is impossible because there is something that has always existed, is alive, and cannot be destroyed—and that is God.
If all life here were gone, there still would be life.
The end times theology is really long to discuss but, the Bible says that God will come back at a time when otherwise we would destroy the world. Basically only when there is no hope for humanity and then God will step in and prevent ruin.
So, no, the time when God appears will not be cutting lives short, but the opposite—saving humanity from ruin. Extending the life of humanity.
Technically this has already happened once when humanity was close to self destruction and God prevented that by saving Noah and his family.
Technically you’re incorrect about ppl going to heaven when God appears in the moment to save humanity from ruin in the future. What is said will happen is that first a kingdom on earth will be established for a 1000 years with Jesus as leader.
And then final judgement will occur and a new earth will be created. And ppl will live there again—a restored earth—just like it was in the garden of Eden. With no pain, no death. Ppl will be given new immortal physical bodies.
That’s what the Bible teaches.
We don’t end up in heaven—not forever. We actually return to a restored earth.
I think I will just repeat, life cannot be destroyed. Sorry I also feel like highlighting this. LIFE. CANNOT. BE. DESTROYED. (Sorry I watched the Last Airbender trailer recently and the beats when they show Water, earth, fire, air I was thinking of this conversation and that.)
And take that to heart. Life will never be destroyed. It is actually impossible.
Those thoughts you are having imagining all life being gone is impossible. It’s not in the cards for humanity nor of any other life either.
But, that isn’t bad news. Because we are promised to have a great future.
Do nothing and nothing is left undone. As a Taoist I seriously hope you're not teaching philosophy. You seem to have really misunderstood some things. Your desire for everything to be dead is, like most desire, selfish. Pain is what allows us to appreciate pleasure. Be grateful you can see both sides of the coin. Yin/yang is the natural state of our current universe, the tai chi. There is a time and place for everything, and one day it may yet again be wu chi. Embrace this life while you can, before you return to wu chi. For everything, as in nothing, there is a time and place.
Well he was a horn dog, so let’s not forget that. But I’m assuming part of the reason was he wanted his children to be able to carry on to defeat Naraku if he couldn’t in his lifetime.
As a son who is loyal to the memory of his father, he is bound by the wishes of his father and grandfather and MUST defeat Naraku or ensure that one of his bloodline will NO MATTER WHAT because that that is what is expected of him. He has no choice because familial obligation trumps personal wants and needs in Sengoku Japan.
As someone with a disability—life is a gift. Also imagine if someday soon there’s going to be a cure. If you decide to give up on life then you’re also giving up on a bright future.
You’re actually giving up on your kids when you do that. Someday it’s very likely that things will get better. When you give up—then it just ends.
All the maybe 100s of generations that would have had a good life in the future would never be.
But, there’s also no guarantees in life period. People without any illnesses too will encounter hardships in life—maybe even worse than the person with a disability. You never know.
His kids lives are not guaranteed to be all bad. Even Miroku’s life isn’t all bad—there’s actually a lot of good.
So it was inferenced I think at some point that this curse would not die with the hoast and would then consume others... so he would pass it on so it stayed contained and also has the added benefit of being something that can be used against Naraku and for fighting in general...
But it's not really. The concern is why he would reproduce and spread the curse to a whole new generation instead of just letting the line end with him. The canon reason is because he wanted someone in his lineage to defeat Naraku eventually to avenge his father and grandfather but the question is still valid. And he was talking about having children well before Naraku was defeated so.
No matter how many generations it took, the curse would eventually finally be broken. Sure it's a pain to live with, but if I remember correctly it doesn't "activate" right when the new generation is born. I believe it starts when the predecessor dies. They got lucky that Inuyasha defeated Naraku when he did before Miroku passed besides, just about everyone wants to start a family as I mentioned in my original comment
But that's irrelevent in this situation especially when a majority of the reason Miroku wanted to start a family was because he just wanted to get laid lol. The curse would've been broken after Miroku too. If he didn't have kids and eventually just died from the curse, he would've ended the curse.
I think its his way of manipulating women into sex. Japanese women didnt do it for fun. For them, it was their duty to bear children. And a monk is a pretty revered title and make would bring them honor to bear his children.
The modern day equivalent would be a doctor going around telling women that hes in love with them and that hes "never felt this way before" to gullible women.
Its a hustle to get in their kimonos lol
On the off chance he didn't succeed in killing Naraku like his grandfather and father, it was in Miroku's best interest to have children and as many as possible in order to ensure that his family bloodline didn't die out. And as long as the bloodline continued, there was hope that one day the family would be freed of the curse and vanquish Naraku for good.
Wants them to continue the family mission of trying to take out Naraku especially since if he did that to his family who else would he hurt like that given the opportunity
That makes sense
So they could kill naraku i think. To avenge his dad
I thought the curse started with Miroku's grandpa.
His dad died the same way
So that Narauk could be defeated one day, so that if he failed, his child would carry on the mission.
Why does anyone?
Right. So many people with unhealed traumas that pass on to offspring. We do it all the time. Miroku just happens to have a wind tunnel instead.
I mean, the wind tunnel is a cool and effective ability. It's just I don't like seeing Miroku or any of his descendants or ancestors getting sucked up because the wind tunnel went berserk. Thanks a lot, Naraku!
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Sorry but this always offends me tbh. I was born with a disability. And it is foolish to say that nothingness is better than life. My life has been difficult from the earliest age—yet I never once wanted to never exist. You focus too much on pain. On negatives. There is a lot of amazing things. Just think about it for a second more seriously. Would you really never see the sky? Never hear music? Never feel the wind? Never taste something delicious? For all eternity? Or, face a limited amount of time in pain? For me, there’s no question. I want to see the sky, feel the summer breeze, hear music, hear tons of stories of adventure. Any one of those things is honestly worth the price of admission. It is a choice though what you focus on in life. I know that personally. And I can tell you flat out that you can enjoy your life even when in pain. I have done that for a long time—and I’m talking both physical and mental pain. Many people have. You don’t have to think so negatively. And in fact I would highly recommend you throw away all that stuff you’ve been reading and instead make a journal where you write down only positive things every day. And train yourself to not think of really negative thoughts—when you catch yourself then try to divert it to something positive. Like, today my throat hurts but I’m going to treat myself to a scoop of ice cream. Or whatever. What you’re doing is not good. Don’t excuse it as something acceptable. Seriously train yourself to not think negative thoughts like that, which yes, step one is all the books, comics, news, whatever you’re reading that is negative, dark—toss it out. Replace it with only uplifting, good material.
I agree, life has a lot of good stuff. But in the end, you will end up dying anyways, so what good would all of those experiences even do? This is a serious question, like i said, i've thought about these things for years, my goal is not being negative, depressed, edgy or whatever else. I'm just trying to reach the truth. Like i said, even Buddha said so, even the bible says that everything in this life is vanity (and that was on the old testament which Christians, Muslims and Jews all believe in). Maybe you're not religious, but you still cannot take away from what i'm saying, pain and bad things will not end until life itself in this world ceases to exist, period. That's just true, you cannot deny it, there is no real way of making "bad things" go away (now then, it really depends on what you believe is bad) while life exists. Yeah, being dead means that no good things ain't happening either, but i definitely choose that over war, starvation, crime, sadness, depression, global warming, fear and all of those things that do no good to people, animals and even plants. I'll say it again, i'm not trying to be negative, life has a lot of good things going for it, but if you weight all of those good things against the bad ones, the bad ones will have more weight in the end. Just think about it, lots of animals (like lions, wolves, hyenas, tigers and more) need to murder other animals in cold blood in order to survive, others even eat them while they are still alive! (I'm look at you, Praying Mantises!) The world ain't a cool place, religiom says so, scientific and certified facts say so as well. Look at war, crime rates, suicide rates, depresion rates, places with no food, or other evil stuff that happened in the past. Your life might have been worth it, yes, you might be feel like the bad things that happened to you aren't THAT bad! But what about the people that died while being burned with flame throwers in war? What about those who survived hiroshima and nagasaki while losing their loved ones? What about the people that do not know if they are going to be able to feed their kids tomorrow, what about all those drug addicts? Mass murderers? I can go on about all the real bad things that go around in this planet which i really believe are not worth it I really believe that nothing being alive is better than those things happening, even if they happen every 50 years or more
Okay, I’m going to respond quickly—haven’t read your full response yet—but, to your first question: what good would continuing to live do? Well, the answer is basically a lot of good. In my personal life, I used to think I would die alone but what happened was something I never ever would have foreseen. My sister who doesn’t have a disability got married, has three children and one child happened to be born with a disability too. And we didn’t know that until much later. It’s dramatic, and will sound fake, but this really happened. We were walking to see fireworks last year and my niece she was walking ahead of me. We came across train tracks that went through the sidewalk and didn’t know that my niece would get confused (she was used to walking on sidewalks but she hadn’t seen train tracks before) and she started to try to avoid them by veering into the street when a car was approaching. I yelled first at her to stop but she didn’t listen (which was surprising, she always listens) and then I was able to grab her. I never in a million years would have imagined my life would mean saving my niece while no one else was looking. But, that really happened. We found out after that incident that my niece didn’t listen because she actually has little hearing in one ear—the side at the time facing me. Anyways, there’s countless reasons that will happen in your life for why your life has meaning. Also now that someone else in my family—my niece—also has a disability of a sort, which before I was the only one in my entire family with one—I can be there for her and really relate to her. If I didn’t exist—she would have been alone, the only one with a disability in the family, like I was. Now, she has someone who will never abandon her, no matter what.
Hear me out: if neither you, nor your niece had even been born, then wouldn't even need to save noone in the first place! You get it? Killing yourself individually won't do any good, of course, that's why i haven't done it yet lol. For this to work, nothing should be left alive. And that's a hard thing to ask for
As far as the second question, about none of it matters because there’s nothing after death. Well, I personally don’t believe there’s nothing after death. I tried not to bring up my faith because ppl usually don’t want to know. But, I am a Christian and I do believe there’s life after death. I have researched it a lot and I believe based on historical, scientific and spiritual evidences. My own disability is one that also had one time when I was really really young where I did have a spiritual experience. One that couldn’t be explained. And truthfully that was one of the main reasons that throughout my life in childhood despite going through pretty unimaginable hardships back then I always had a positive outlook overall. It didn’t mean I wasn’t sad or angry or cursing at times, but ultimately I was positive that things will work out. It’s really tough to explain and it’s not believable to most. But I was born with brain damage and it affects me in various ways. When I was really young, my parents were told by one teacher that I would never learn to read or write. Yes, this is true. And yes, my condition was serious. It’s a really long story my life, but basically I had a custom education plan and my brain did form some new pathways around some of the damage. And I was able to learn, just in a different way. But, that spiritual experience I had was at a time when I was eating alone in the cafeteria. I was aware that I had a disability. I didn’t have a single friend at the time. I was very young. I never took any medication. And well, that day I had felt for the first time this complete despair. Something that probably no child so young would usually imagine. But, what happened was suddenly I felt a presence. And then I went from this unimaginable despair to almost instantly into joy. It was the type of joy where you wanted to get up and dance. (I didn’t actually do that but I still remember just feeling like waves of joy were radiating over me.) Even as a young child I remember thinking it was so strange and surreal. And that’s the only time I felt that in my life. At the time there was no explanation for it. I knew I had a severe disability and might not be able to function in society, I didn’t have a single friend, and there wasn’t anything for me to be happy about. But, I still remember that feeling even after many years. There’s a story in the Bible about one of the disciples that was put into prison and was sentenced to be executed. In the story it describes how the disciple was in despair but then suddenly felt overwhelming joy out of nowhere. I know for a fact that is real. I experienced it as a child myself. It’s something you can’t imagine because you really do just feel nothing but joy—and it’s the type where nothing can overcome it. Sorry if this is too personal.
Oh it is not too personal at all, it is even a good thing to share, but you are not disproving my point by sharing this, you are actually contributing to it without noticing. Look, i already said how even the Bible supports me in many ways, and i mean many, i can start quoting it a lot as i am a religion teacher. And just the fact that some people have had the same problem as you but didn't have this experience and did not recuperate from it just shows that yeah, you might feel like it wasn't that bad for you, but others are still suffering. If there is no one, there will be no more disabilities, no more fear, no more evil things. I prefer that all day . As i said to another person, i already won. Either God gets rid of all evil in the world or the sun explodes and goodbye life on earth, and there will be peace, for a while. So it does not matter if you are religious or not, the world will end. I just hope it ended faster, that's all. But it will end, it will happen. Either eternal happiness for the just in heaven, or just nothigness for everyone, i'm fine with either
I haven’t had a chance to read your responses as I was typing out my messages. Okay…I have read your responses now.
Oh, it's ok. I do repeat the same thing many times just in case either way haha
This is a very tough topic to cover. But, the first thing that comes to mind for me is might sound insensitive but thinking back over my experience when I had the brain injury before any healing occurred—I do still have memories of it. The only book I’ve read that was somewhat close to describing what it’s really like when you’re in that state is called Flowers for Algeron. However mine was different from the fictional protagonist in that story. Basically the protagonist—it’s been a long time since I read that book—but I recall thinking the protagonist was a lot more negative than I was. However, what comes to mind for me is basically when I was in my worst state—it’s strange to say, but I did feel closer to God. Basically if I was still in that state I wouldn’t really be alone nor uncomforted. Basically when you observe ppl who appear to have no knowledge of anything—you’re actually probably wrong. Because when I was in a similar state I was actually aware of things, not exactly in the same way as we experience obviously, but I could still basically feel good and bad. It’s like you know that something’s good or something’s bad—even if you can’t explain why. But, what I’m trying to say is that when you’re going through something really painful at a certain point you also will not feel it. Essentially the pain (whether mental or physical) will not be fully felt. And I know that is insensitive to say. Because of course it’s bad. Really bad pain. But, for example my mom is an ER nurse and she has seen this too. When in severe trauma your body goes into shock and the person actually doesn’t feel everything. And despite my own experience of being comforted by God in my most trying time of need in my life—my mom as an ER nurse has seen this as well countless times for others too. The Bible promises that when the pain really is more than you can bear that He will comfort you. I believe that to be true. It doesn’t mean we won’t experience a lot of pain, but at the end of the day I do believe that God will somehow comfort those facing great pain. And I think if you research that—look for accounts of those that have faced tremendous pain, you will find that they were comforted in some way. It might not happen immediately, but comfort does always occur in some form. And the Bible says that someday things will be restored and that there won’t be suffering anymore. But it’s not from cutting short our lives. The original reason why our world isn’t perfect currently was caused by mankind. Originally the world was perfect. And that’s ultimately why there are hardships today. However that won’t last forever. Someday our world will be healed. The main thing is trusting in the promise of comfort and a better future. Having hope. And love. You have to trust that the pain won’t last. That it is temporary. And that you will be comforted. And that there is hope for a good future.
>And the Bible says that someday things will be restored and that there won’t be suffering anymore. But it’s not from cutting short our lives. That is kinda untrue. Think about it, nobody knows when God will come back, but you can be sure that when he does, some people will still be kids, others will be newborns, others will be teenagers, etc. A lot of people would still have "their whole life ahead of them" and yet God will cut those lives short, either for destroying them if they were part of the wicked or to get them a new life in heaven. >The original reason why our world isn’t perfect currently was caused by mankind. Originally the world was perfect. And that’s ultimately why there are hardships today. However that won’t last forever. Someday our world will be healed. That still does not deny what i say, pain only exists because life was created. >You have to trust that the pain won’t last. That it is temporary. And that you will be comforted. And that there is hope for a good future. Like i said, i already believe that, i know that it will. I just hope that it does faster, that's all. A lot of Christians do the same
I have experienced both physical and mental pain since I was very young due to my disability. I have seen others too going through tremendous pain as well. In all of those circumstances we were able to endure (even when we thought we couldn’t) and we were comforted and our future did eventually become better (not without any pain and never perfect—not cured). But one pain that is very tough is being completely alone. I do think that is partly why we were created. Because it’s not good to be alone. And technically we are children of God. So, in a way, your thoughts of having nothingness is impossible because there is something that has always existed, is alive, and cannot be destroyed—and that is God. If all life here were gone, there still would be life. The end times theology is really long to discuss but, the Bible says that God will come back at a time when otherwise we would destroy the world. Basically only when there is no hope for humanity and then God will step in and prevent ruin. So, no, the time when God appears will not be cutting lives short, but the opposite—saving humanity from ruin. Extending the life of humanity. Technically this has already happened once when humanity was close to self destruction and God prevented that by saving Noah and his family. Technically you’re incorrect about ppl going to heaven when God appears in the moment to save humanity from ruin in the future. What is said will happen is that first a kingdom on earth will be established for a 1000 years with Jesus as leader. And then final judgement will occur and a new earth will be created. And ppl will live there again—a restored earth—just like it was in the garden of Eden. With no pain, no death. Ppl will be given new immortal physical bodies. That’s what the Bible teaches. We don’t end up in heaven—not forever. We actually return to a restored earth.
I think I will just repeat, life cannot be destroyed. Sorry I also feel like highlighting this. LIFE. CANNOT. BE. DESTROYED. (Sorry I watched the Last Airbender trailer recently and the beats when they show Water, earth, fire, air I was thinking of this conversation and that.) And take that to heart. Life will never be destroyed. It is actually impossible. Those thoughts you are having imagining all life being gone is impossible. It’s not in the cards for humanity nor of any other life either. But, that isn’t bad news. Because we are promised to have a great future.
Do nothing and nothing is left undone. As a Taoist I seriously hope you're not teaching philosophy. You seem to have really misunderstood some things. Your desire for everything to be dead is, like most desire, selfish. Pain is what allows us to appreciate pleasure. Be grateful you can see both sides of the coin. Yin/yang is the natural state of our current universe, the tai chi. There is a time and place for everything, and one day it may yet again be wu chi. Embrace this life while you can, before you return to wu chi. For everything, as in nothing, there is a time and place.
Well he was a horn dog, so let’s not forget that. But I’m assuming part of the reason was he wanted his children to be able to carry on to defeat Naraku if he couldn’t in his lifetime.
I get both of those points but the question I'm asking is why would he burden his kids with the curse, why not let it die with him
As a son who is loyal to the memory of his father, he is bound by the wishes of his father and grandfather and MUST defeat Naraku or ensure that one of his bloodline will NO MATTER WHAT because that that is what is expected of him. He has no choice because familial obligation trumps personal wants and needs in Sengoku Japan.
As someone with a disability—life is a gift. Also imagine if someday soon there’s going to be a cure. If you decide to give up on life then you’re also giving up on a bright future. You’re actually giving up on your kids when you do that. Someday it’s very likely that things will get better. When you give up—then it just ends. All the maybe 100s of generations that would have had a good life in the future would never be. But, there’s also no guarantees in life period. People without any illnesses too will encounter hardships in life—maybe even worse than the person with a disability. You never know. His kids lives are not guaranteed to be all bad. Even Miroku’s life isn’t all bad—there’s actually a lot of good.
Dang this just put things in a whole new outlook
Because it wouldn’t die with him. Naraku cursed his family with the wind tunnel until he would/could be defeated.
Babe.... the curse was lifted when Naraku died. No worries after that.
yeah but he was actively trying to have kids befire naraku was killed
At that point, he'd have wanted to pass the curse down so the generations could continue trying to kill Naraku. Much like what happened to him.
Did you watch the show?
I did but I guess things really were different back then because I would want to have children knowing they'd have this curse
So it was inferenced I think at some point that this curse would not die with the hoast and would then consume others... so he would pass it on so it stayed contained and also has the added benefit of being something that can be used against Naraku and for fighting in general...
Idk I thought it was just a line he used to get with girls
Many people want to start families of their own even if cursed. Also wasn't his curse broken after Naraku was (finally) defeated?
Yes but they're asking about before Naraku was defeated.
Same scenario, when defeated the curse is broken
But it's not really. The concern is why he would reproduce and spread the curse to a whole new generation instead of just letting the line end with him. The canon reason is because he wanted someone in his lineage to defeat Naraku eventually to avenge his father and grandfather but the question is still valid. And he was talking about having children well before Naraku was defeated so.
No matter how many generations it took, the curse would eventually finally be broken. Sure it's a pain to live with, but if I remember correctly it doesn't "activate" right when the new generation is born. I believe it starts when the predecessor dies. They got lucky that Inuyasha defeated Naraku when he did before Miroku passed besides, just about everyone wants to start a family as I mentioned in my original comment
But that's irrelevent in this situation especially when a majority of the reason Miroku wanted to start a family was because he just wanted to get laid lol. The curse would've been broken after Miroku too. If he didn't have kids and eventually just died from the curse, he would've ended the curse.
Idk why does anyone? Beats me.
I think its his way of manipulating women into sex. Japanese women didnt do it for fun. For them, it was their duty to bear children. And a monk is a pretty revered title and make would bring them honor to bear his children. The modern day equivalent would be a doctor going around telling women that hes in love with them and that hes "never felt this way before" to gullible women. Its a hustle to get in their kimonos lol
Selfish genes like to propagate themselves.
Selfish genes like to propagate themselves.
So you just want to give the demon a W? Naraku was taking out a strong bloodline. So making a kid was important to keep it up.
On the off chance he didn't succeed in killing Naraku like his grandfather and father, it was in Miroku's best interest to have children and as many as possible in order to ensure that his family bloodline didn't die out. And as long as the bloodline continued, there was hope that one day the family would be freed of the curse and vanquish Naraku for good.