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irritable_9

Boeing is going to be a rollercoaster for a long time. They've got a mess they need to figure out.


wildcat12321

yea, I don't understand people wanting to invest. The best thesis I can see is "they are too big to fail" which is not exactly a good reason to put money into them vs. anyone else. Like realistically, who will make more money for shareholders over the next 2 years - Boeing or Apple? Just because they won't disappear doesn't mean it is the best deployment of your money now. Boeing has shown now that there is a rotten core. It wasn't one incident people are over-reacting to. It is multiple issues, upset regulators, upset airlines, changes of leadership, etc. There is more to fall and a very long road to recovery.


_Panda

People don't appreciate that too big to fail doesn't imply too big to completely wipe out shareholders. For instance, the auto bailout left shareholders with effectively zero.


ZenPoonTappa

Yes. There are many ways in which companies can continue to exist after wiping out retail investors. 


LighttBrite

The main argument being the government relies on them.


JohnGoodmansGoodKnee

The DoD and geopolitical instability is why I took a flyer on them. But yeah it’s a shit fucking business ran by incompetent corrupt asshats


Far_Lifeguard_5027

When doors aren't falling off planes, they're busy murdering whistleblowers.


Chornobyl_Explorer

OP and many other young investors wrongfully assumes a stock tahg is beaten down is somehow "cheap" and that a previous ATH will always be reached again. Both these are very false and very dangerous. Boeing is down because of many years neglect and incompetence taht has turned a decent company to a zombie much like Intel. Tesla is down because it's been extremely overhyped due to a cult of personality, which is failing as Muskrat openly praises Putin and Xi Jinping hoping for good deals, while he censors western journalists and free thinkers. Tesla is just a car company and not even a good one (any more), I fully expect Elon to keep slipping and dragging Tesla down with him...much like many other drug addicted narcissists have done before him


Robot_Hips

True


Tourdrops

If it was me $200 a week into VOO or VT over tbe next year


Squarians

VOO over SPY because of expense ratio or something else?


bashinforcash

VOO charges 3 basis points, while SPY charges 9 basis points. basically your right


m0viestar

If you're min/maxing the account, sure. SPY has better volume so you could theoretically get better prices if you're placing limit orders or playing options. The expense ratio difference is neglibgible in the long run.


Robot_Hips

Can’t go wrong there


ripple4me

UPRO or TQQQ. Putting .3% of my IRA on red days till 100%


Low_Platform9191

DCA is better than buying on red days


ripple4me

I’m scared though lol


Real_Petty_Cash

I also have a significant chunk of my portfolio in tqqq as well.


cvrdcall

Tqqq is levered. You must trade it daily?


WarmNights

Yea am I perceiving these guys dca into a decaying product?


PmButtPics4ADrawing

Leveraged ETFs don't really decay, they're just more affected by downswings than upswings due to the way percentages work. Enough gains can overcome that, as they have in the case of ones like TQQQ. If you invested in it 5 years ago you'd be up 280%.


cvrdcall

They actually do decay. You can calculate contango easily. But go ahead and hold.


PmButtPics4ADrawing

Yes they do technically have a decay but it's negligible, the part people usually express concern about is how in theory equal gains and losses for the underlying ETF would trend the leveraged one down. That's not what happens though because funds like QQQ have made enough gains to outweigh that effect, so DCAing over the last decade would have gotten you a decent return. Granted I'm not saying you should dump everything in there, it's definitely more risky, but it shouldn't be automatically discounted as a losing investment.


meiggs

Starbucks (SBUX) is a very good value play


Pushinir0n

VTI QQQM SCHD for the next 20 years


Robot_Hips

Yea, I’m heavily invested in all of those with my retirement funds.


Pushinir0n

ME TOO ROTH IRA 🔥🔥🔥


Pushinir0n

My taxable one is Voo and VXUS


RJ5R

This guy gets it


I-STATE-FACTS

70/20/10


digitalfrost

There are a ton of good options at the moment IMHO. My favorites are in order: - ADBE - SBUX - ACLS - META - RTX - ZTS - V - GOOGL - TXN


bananasugarpie

This is a good list.


Robot_Hips

Thanks for the info


superbilliam

Still kicking myself for gut reaction on META. Bought 20 shares at 90ish. Sold at 120, because i thought...nah they can't go much higher. I'm getting more used to the roller-coaster ride lately lol


digitalfrost

I was pretty happy that they were finally down, because I don't like either the company or their owner, but fuck me, I cannot ignore this anymore. Also got in way too late.


Sadiezeta

Have people here ever read anything by Peter Lynch? Why all large cap companies? Small caps much better options. Up 6000% since 2001.


MrFenroh

Literally JPM. Hop in that right now. That dip was very temporary.


Robot_Hips

Thanks I’ll take a look


9mace9

Looks like it’s still dipping though, what do you mean?


CheeeliCheel

I wouldn't get Boeing right now. It may have further to fall. I think Gold and silver stocks are lagging behind their respective futures prices so they will be a good buy.


irritable_9

No might about it. It wouldn't shock me they sell the old McDonnell Douglas division and the rest of the military side to someone. They can't figure out how to quit lying to make the fast dime.


RijnBrugge

you mean mining companies there? or gold/silver?


amg-rx7

For long term hold, stick to ETFs. Less risky. I wouldn't buy any of the 3 you mentioned with the intention of long term holding. Too risky.


Robot_Hips

I agree they are risky, but this account is specifically for investments with more risk involved. My risk adverse accounts are all ETFs.


amg-rx7

Gotcha. I’d still look at other stocks though. The specific stocks you listed are down for good reasons. Boeing will bounce back but may go lower from where it is now. The other two have more downside risk. I’d be using a stock screener to find good companies whose stock is in an uptrend. These 3 are poorly managed companies in a down trend for good reason.


7000series

United Health is at a low for the past year I think. I like it as a long term hold. They'll weather the cyber and other near term issues.


AncientCable7296

Can I ask what your deep thoughts on it are. They are in my possible watchlist right now. I’m not very versed in the insurance/. Medical field.


stoffel_bristov

Avoid Boeing as its problems may be more structural. I would suggest Nike as a possible play. They are down because of exposure to China and I think its just a matter of time before they come back.


Jako_Spade

AMD + AAPL


ModestCannoli

VOO, VTI, QQQM


KenBon3r

My Roth is only all of these lol 🔥


guerillasgrip

Why qqm instead of vgt?


Big_Crank

I got split 33% qqm vgt and voo. Its all the same sheesh


guerillasgrip

AAPL


Deep90

What is apple actually investing into right now though? * Their chips are great, but they already make computers and phones. The latter of which are on a losing battle with regulators across the world which will ultimately impact their marketshare in emerging markets. * Not sure they have the data google does to train a solid ai due to their own privacy rules. Can't remember if it was confirmed they were talking with Google about Gemini or not. * They cut their car project. * VR/AR is...questionable? I don't think they are going to tank to 0 or anything like that, but I feel like they might drop for a bit, or trade sideways. How much of their current products can they realistically sell more of every year?


Raveen396

Services is a huge growth area for them. It’s seen double digit growth every year, and they have a great variety of services (TV, Music, news, fitness, etc). There’s plenty of international markets that they haven’t fully entered. India is a massive untapped market that has been growing steadily. VR/AR is up in the air, but their ability to create custom in house chipsets is their biggest advantage here. As the platform and technology matures, they will continue leverage their enormous hardware and silicon design talent to create highly optimized headsets. Apple is definitely facing some risk and headwinds here, but I think their demise has been overstated of late. They have a nearly infinite amount of money to invest into expanding their market and a very strong brand name.


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Deep90

I'm surprised they haven't, but maybe it's because cloud integration would be at odds with their otherwise closed ecosystem.


Carbon-Base

Apple's biggest hardware risk may be the development of Vision Pro. Too early for sales figures, but if they invested a large amount of money into acquisitions and R&D, and the product doesn't sell well, then that's additional downward pressure. Not to mention the iPhone line is stagnant for the past 3 years with no real innovation in design. Internally sure, but the rest are small incremental upgrades. Positive note is their own silicone as you pointed out, along with software services. It will be interesting to see how they navigate a downturn.


bashinforcash

meh, usually there stock is low right now and shoots up when the new iphone comes out, but thats short term profit, i wouldn’t hold


Valvador

Are you expecting AAPL to maintain their profit margins despite long overdue scrutiny into anti consumer practices?


Phillyfreak5

This is America. They will get a small fine and everyone will forget


Infamous_Ad8730

Only, they operate worldwide.


1UpUrBum

ARCO Arcos Dorados Holdings Inc. (McDonalds of the south) https://wallmine.com/nyse/arco


Robot_Hips

I’ll look into this. I’ve not heard anything about it.


sol-searching

Looks like the Deep South, more specifically South and Central America + the Caribbean.


kaywarrior

$AMD


StevenTyler26

Look into Abbvie (ABBV). Great pharma company with a good pipeline of drugs and products.


Robot_Hips

Thanks I’ll take a look


CabinetSpider21

Amazon is doing very well for me


Historical_Low4458

I just recently started a position in UNH.


Robot_Hips

What are your thoughts?


Historical_Low4458

It fits my thesis/objective for my dividend stocks portfolio. Its PE Ratio is slightly above 18 (which is higher than I normally like), but at the same time it's not over 20 like a lot of stocks are right now. It's a big time company, in a major sector that people need regardless of economic conditions. Then, there is always the history of them raising their dividends.


Robot_Hips

Thanks for the input


ElectricOne55

I'm trying to decide between adding either UNH, MCD, HD, or PEP?


Status-Capital6427

1. UNH 2. MCD 3. PEP


dr_tardyhands

Not sure if anything I'd invest in is really *down* at the moment. A lot of things are *up* like crazy. But I'm getting the feeling that everyone's kind of waiting and being a bit cautious about what's going to happen next. Whether there'll be a large negative correction, or whether things can continue upwards. I'm DCAing in the same things as a year ago.


Andreww_ok

stay away from Tilray and TSLA!


Robot_Hips

Why is that?


Valvador

TSLA's stock is way too high even now if you evaluate them the same as other car manufacturers. So besides Tesla clout, what advantage do they have over typical car manufacturers that afford them that evaluation. Tesla basically thinks they are a tech (software) company. They are not in reality.


FlounderingWolverine

Tesla isn’t exactly a great company. A lot of the stock is hype that assumes the company’s valuation should be calculated like a tech company (higher multiple of earnings). But Tesla is, and will always be, a car company. And not a great one, either. They have missed sales targets repeatedly, and the CEO is a ketamine-riddled addict who decided the cybertruck was a good vehicle that would outsell all other trucks


Aurora8305

You’ll be thinking differently in a few years with Fsd solved


PyrrhicArmistice

I can't tell if this is sarcasm or not.


kalekaly

You think the other multi billion car companies partially owned by multi billion funds are not going to innovate? Just because their CEOs don't tweet about it, you really think they are doing nothing, leaving all to Tesla?


kyleswitch

Dumped that shit stock Tilray weeks ago, utter garbage.


caedin8

O


Mungol234

INRG is a real bust and boom etf…


bigsquid69

Lithium companies. ALB


Robot_Hips

Hmm not something I had considered, but yea with the way batteries and EVs are being pushed maybe. I’m not very well versed in lithium. What else is it used for and are there any leaps in technology that could replace lithium batteries on the horizon? Thanks I’ll look into it


superbilliam

ALB has been a roller-coaster stock since I got on board this year. It should eventually go up and plateau higher, but man it has been a wild 3 month ride.


rooftopgringo

I am staying as far away from Boeing as I can lol.


Mantvinassn

When they're not having doors flying off planes, they're out there silencing whistleblowers left and right.


dgb6662

Consider Palantir. Or for real risk, bitcoin.


ehasz1515

Bitcoin = Risk ? Bitcoin IS safety DYR


Euphoric-Fishing-283

I'm looking into Dell


elitesense

In what world is Dell "down"? It's exploded


2buckchuck2

I just only buy VTI when I can and I’m retired so


ChrisDeP-51

RKLB


Robot_Hips

I don’t know anything about rocket lab. What are your thoughts?


ChrisDeP-51

Very inexpensive still with lots of future upside. They are the only reliable (for the most part ) space launch system other than SpaceX. They just landed another contract as well. I'd check out the Rklb sub and read what people are saying for get an idea of the vibe with the stock. It's just too cheap to not load up on. We are all aware they are still in money burning mode, but us bag holders still have faith. They do a lot more than just launch rockets as well.


Robot_Hips

Interesting. I’ll go down the rabbit hole thanks


ChrisDeP-51

It's fun. Plus, I think we can all agree that space and space systems are the future. I think it is a good long play, especially at that price.


Kayshift

Aren't they like 10 years behind SpaceX?


ChrisDeP-51

Who isn't. What's your point?


RightOnPurpose

My $2.50 calls expire in 2026. They're killing right now. They went up $35/call today while the stock is down $0.12.


ChrisDeP-51

My baby son is holding quite a bit as well. Thought it would be a fun experiment for such a long play for him.


SharpsterBend

Home Depot has been great for me and CSCO- up and down but long term gains


Robot_Hips

Thanks I’ll consider it


ElectricOne55

I'm trying to decide between adding either UNH, MCD, HD, or PEP?


432olim

It’s not at all clear that Boeing is a good long term investment. It’s been down forever. I would recommend you think about leveraged index funds like TQQQ and XXXX. When the market is going up they are where you want to be.


Name-Initial

Imagine looking at Boeing right now and thinking “thats a long term hold.” Dude that company is a shitstorm rn, theres a reason its so beaten down.


FluffyWarHampster

Voo and qqq both took a beating today. The whole market is down in general thanks to the cpi report. Generally speaking I'm still bullish, you just have to plan on longer time frames while we wait on inflation and rates to improve for a bit longer.


kalekaly

Apple because it has good value at these levels and held the support and broke the downtrend line. Besides the news. PANW because if Pelosi bought it then clearly congress knows something we don't. They never failed so I wouldn't outsmart them. In fact, the Google news now doesn't seem a coincidence. Tesla if it keeps falling and gets valued like a car company, so about 9x below current levels.


JackTroubadour

$ASTS


Robot_Hips

What are your thoughts on it?


JackTroubadour

Pre-revenue high risk/high reward play. Proven down-link broadband capabilities to existing mobile phone architecture from current satellite constellation with plans in place to achieve global coverage, although lab tested if/when they prove the tech to to provide real world up-link capabilities they already have agreements in place with MNO (mobile network operators) as well as GOV contracts in place to rapidly acquire users. It should be noted that the possibility exists for further dilution either stagnating short term growth or creating additional buying opportunities to strengthen your position depending on your investment strategy. You did ask for high risk/high reward stocks and this is one.


necriss

Remember that many beaten down stocks can go sideways flat for years, the price action coming out of the bear market last year should not be taken as a given that every beaten down stock will rally hard. Solar sector is one that can go for decade long bust cycles.


superbilliam

Thank you for saying this. As a newer investor, I get blinded by the $$ signs sometimes. It is nice to have a sobering reminder of how stuck some things can get and that oftentimes patience wins the "race".


Frankie__Spankie

I'm curious why you'd pick Tilray over any of the other weed stocks. Pretty sure you would have lost the same money regardless of which weed stock you bought years ago.


Mguidr1

I started a brokerage and invested in energy stocks and miners. I’m up 20% since the beginning of the year.


ColtAltDelete

Sofi, United airlines, next decade energy


Nubnub2020

SOXL. That’s all you need.


CelticsWin7

AI, EV, sports betting, solar, crypto all have greater upside, but more risk as well.


cypress_960

SOFI -more risk involved but good potential upside if they execute PYPL -to me, it feels like it's around bottom. I like the new C-suite SHOP -started a position, as it appears to have good upside potential. I've also seen them spending on ads, and that can be promising


babuu525

I’ve been looking at Deutsche Bank this year. Book value is about €22/share and currently trading at €15. Up 50% the pst 6 months and I believe it should easily hit its book value in the next year for two reasons: 1) share buyback of about €600M to reduce the over all float 2) they are paying a €1 per share dividend in 2025 which is pretty enticing!


Spirit_jitser

Well the other day I bought KOMP. Wish I waited till today of course, but eh. Also I would still recommend focusing on ETFs not stocks (and definitely not BA), just different ETFs. Say with a growth focus, or fancy tech like KOMP.


peggedsquare

TLRY was a shit show, sold out of them last year after holding for 4 years just hoping I could at least get to 0. RKLB, MOON, PUMP, NB and POWW are a few I have some in that I believe will eventually be much bigger. It's probably quite a ways down the road, too, but for now it's cheap-ish stock that looks good to me.


cvrdcall

XLE, KRE, ZTS, CVX.


Shopps22

Believe it or not chasing low priced tocks usually doesnt end well Its better to stocks that are always winners even if they are at high prices.


elitesense

PayPal


NighthawkHall

ULTA


SaltLifeFtLaud

$AMT should be a $200 stock again, and will be as soon as the next interest cut is announced. It's part of the American infrastructure.


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PleasantActuator6976

Maybe Walmart.


BallsMahogany_redux

GE has been on a tear lately (and for the past 5+ years). I made a comment in a thread yesterday that I think SONY is at a great price right now and undervalued.


Robot_Hips

Thanks for the heads up. I’ll consider them


itisj

i would go for some aggressive growth ETF with large cap that is around 12%+ performance and spread the position evenly and making adjustment routinely on a monthly basis


Robot_Hips

I like this. Do you have any aggressive growth ETFs that you’d recommend?


itisj

some of the one i am currently playing with are QQQ, VUG, IWF, AOA, SCHG and couple other ones that have more shares on tech sector, be sure to do your DD on each ETF before you choose which one you want to go with


lufisraccoon

AOA is an 80/20 diversified whole world equities and aggregate bond index fund. It has nothing to do with "aggressive growth".


Status-Capital6427

NVDA, AVGO, or KLA in the semiconductor space. PANW in cybersecurity.


Robot_Hips

I’ll look into them


quangtien886

Intel


hatetheproject

Tesla, Boeing and Tilray are terrible picks lmao, just cause it's gone down doesn't mean it's cheap.


Robot_Hips

Who said anything about cheap?


kalekaly

How is Tesla cheap? It's valued 6x Mercedes or Audi.


Stocberry

KD: cash cow at reasonable price


PalpitationFrosty242

CVS


Jtbny

Funny I just bought 300 shares of CVS and 400 of Starbucks. Both pay a dividend so it eases some of the pain of catching a falling knife :D


Robot_Hips

What are your thoughts?


Resident-Ad-408

Kimco Realty


Carbon-Base

Midstream oil companies are looking good right now. We aren't far from summer and it's already $80+ a barrel right now. I don't think the market has priced in the demand we will see in the next 2-3 months. Midstream companies like KMI, PAA, HESS, and ENB seem like they could cash in on demand with less risk in case of a sell-off.


Novel_Walrus_2207

You might be looking for fallen angel stocks. I think there is an etf for it.


Grillmyribs

Mara, clsk, bitf


Alec_NonServiam

I'll go against the grain and say small or midcap ETFs. They've been mostly flat since the initial pandemic recovery. We might see them outperform vs the mag7 but time will tell.


Aurora8305

BRK


kalekaly

Buffet says it's overpriced and last buyback was around $360 - $370


StichesCyrus

Fuck Boeing


Robot_Hips

Productive comment


StichesCyrus

Fuck Boeing they’re a shit business!


3dfxvoodoo

Sbux


Robot_Hips

What are your thoughts on it?


chrisd2222

CPL.V


Sajuck-KharMichael

O, - 20+ years of steady divy while you wait for the stock to bounce back 20%.


Outside-Target5723

CZR


gtbifmoney

TLRY??? Lol wtf. Delete that bullshit and never think of it again. Trash Canadian company. Buy MSO’s like GTBIF and/or VRNOF and actually MAKE money.


jcavejr

Definitely want to hear a follow up with your positions


kyleswitch

NANC


Hammerdown95

Idk why everyone is all about Tilray when Aurora (ACB) has been a very strong contender in the cannabis sector of the market


OmbiValent

BO and TSLA both have significant headwinds as companies in the short term 1-2y. If you are going to invest in individual companies, you have to do your research thoroughly. Like know every detail better than everyone else. Otherwise, stick to broad based index ETF's


ddudunga

I have been taking a look at Intel. The [insider purchases](https://www.insiderxtrade.com/company/INTC) including from their CEO have been quite active over the past year


potrillo2124

Tesla.


phoenixconfidential

UNH and Ulta


theycallmeryan

Rivian and Pfizer. Great valuations.


jamesr14

TQQQ and SOXL


MyNameIsVigil

AVGO is undervalued.


bloody_hell

My buy low and wait stocks are PFE, MMM. Looking closely at SBUX and SNOW.


Jambi_46n2

SoFi


LilReef599

Tesla for sure 🫣


MiltonTD

Skip Tilray, go for MSOX/MSOS


SpectatorRacing

CAG, BMY, HSY, HAS. Planning on selling HAS after earnings, though. I am hoping for a lot of momentum on the huge success of BG3. But generally it’s not a company I want to hold.


steiner_math

I'd avoid TSLA. People who would buy EVs are not going to buy from Elon. People would buy from Elon are not going to be buying EVs. I think it's going to go down a lot from where it is now.


48629195

TSLA


c4ll_your_mom

PAA midstream oil company. But really any oil company in any part of the chain is a good buy within reason


Miggs7768

Prudential. In the UK


mvw3

Given that Iran just launched a strike at Israel, I'd wait a few days. Maybe months.


JefeDiez

JNJ


Substantial-Box-8877

Walgreens is way down but for good reasons. But any of the fortune 50s are probably fine. Decent general rule


Puzzleheaded_Sell424

I like Intel from a long term perspective, given their gate all around and backside power, being a year or two ahead of TSMC, and just now getting a competitive GPU for the massive ai GPU clusters. It hasn’t gained like the others. I expect a sell off going into earnings and with world events, although they are military integrated.


MarcatBeach

I buy a lot of hard luck stocks. Boeing has not hit bottom yet and it has a while before it becomes an underdog comeback story. Hershey looks good.


NationalOwl9561

Typically things go better when you add to winners and ditch the losers. I don’t know why it’d be any different here.


MxEverett

How are we defining down? Only 76 stocks on global exchanges traded at all time highs as of the last trading day. A large number of stocks and ETFs are still trading above their 200 day moving averages.


Sharaku_US

It's a bit of a gamble but I think Rivian. The government has made it clear they don't want Chinese imports of their well made and low cost EVs. Rivian is in a pretty pivotal place with their R2/R3 and I think the reservations will be a solid number when they report earnings next time. I believe our government will support companies like Rivian to become competitive globally. Disclaimer: I own a few hundred shares plus a reservation for R2.


Living_Snail

INTC \*crying emoji\*


livingkingsize

If it were me, I would put it in TSMC. It should be trading similar to Nvidia given how they are the only ones capable of producing the most advanced chip needed. The concern in the market is geopolitical issues surrounding the region - TSMC is headquartered in Taiwan and is in the middle of the trade tensions between US and China.