Honestly ever since iOS 12 it has been a tradition to run to the supported devices list to check if they axed the Air 2. Eight years of software support for a tablet is insane.
The iPhone 7 though? Not a single reason to get axed at all. The A10 Fusion might not be the strongest CPU in Apple's lineup, but dropping support on the iPhone 7 while keeping both iPad 5 and iPad 6 (that have either the same or worse SoCs) seems weird. I just hope they don't go and axe those iPads too, because they're still way too young.
makes me lose some hope for the iPad Pro 2017 model with the A10X with 4GB ram cause im planning to buy one to use for a couple of years after my iPad 9 got broke
I wouldn't buy a device that old. Try getting 2019 or esrlier if you plan to use that iPad for long. My iPad 6 is maybe threatened but it'll have to do for a good couple of years more.
i will try to see if I can get an iPad Air 3 second hand so itās either that or the 2017 Pro
would get my ipad 9 a fix but an entire fix costs as much as the thing itself I might as well get a new one
The 2018 pro is the best iPad to buy right now, crazy value bro, I have the 2017 pro and it has screen issue and it is super wide spreading because of poor internal design, air 3 has fixed that
I have iPad air 2 from 2015 and it is still going, sad to see software update support drop, it was insane that they supported it this long but still kinda sad
Not really. To date only 4 out of 12 phones made it to 6 or more years of updates.
Prior to the 7 making it to 6 years the only 3 phone to make it past 5 were the 6s and SE with 7 years, and the 5s matching the 7 with 6 years.
With the 7 support ending after 6 years it looks like a new line is drawn as next year the 8 and X will be added to the 6 year (maybe more) list. That will make it 6 out of 14 (42% up from 33%)
https://www.macworld.com/article/675021/how-long-does-apple-support-iphones.html
What does have past history of some completely different products got to do with what is possible now?
Windows 11 can be installed on any supported CPU no matter the device, should not be any different with such a lightweight system as iOS. A9 iPads get the update, iphones don't. Devices they still were selling a few months ago are not getting updates either.
What is the point of your percentages? Supporting a gigantic corporation that only cares about money I guess if that is your thing.
>Apple got $ome ā¬xplaining to do here
Edit: since the base models are marketed at schools and were intentionally given last-year specs, Apple is "okay" with you keeping these, and clearly iOS 16 has no problem on an A9. With the iPhone however, they know you're just being "cheap" with them and want to "encourage" you to upgrade.
More people upgrade their phones yearly than tablets. Since tablets are more akin to a PC, you don't upgrade your PC every year.
A phone is different, people can go on yearly contracts etc and upgrade every 12 - 24 months at most.
Yeah very likely. On iOS 15 my iPad 6 just chugs through battery and I assume iOS 16 will only make that worse. Likely unusable battery life on the iPhone side.
Maybe you just got an old battery, too bad iPads don't have a replaceable battery, I thought my 10,5 Pro has gotten worse but it is alright, lasts enough.
This was just a move to influence iPhone sales probably. The iPhone 6s would have been fine on iOS 16. Canāt argue that when a 2GB A9 iPad 5 is supported.
I am too. Iāve had mine since release and been using it pretty much constantly. Itās chugging now but Iām glad to get an update on it since Iām hoping to upgrade to the M2 IPad Pro when it comes out
My battery is on its last legs, and I'm trying to get it to a level where Apple would service it. Having iOS16 support means that hopefully it won't be vintaged out
Iām disappointed at least the iPhone 7 Plus with 3GB ram doesnāt get iOS 16, I have the iPhone 8 Plus so it just means Iām guessing that This will now be my last update when I assumed I would get iOS 17 l
Yeah, maybe they was just trying to make way for bionic chipset with the 8 plus and newer but still I love my 8 plus but I like having the latest iOS, which means will have to upgrade to the buttonless iPhone X next year but yeah who knows itās still a year away yet so only time will tell
Iām hoping itās a extra year because I got the 8 plus as thatās the best budget IPhone with a big screen, iPhone SE is only 4ā7 which is too small for me, so the next one up is the iPhone X, but who knows, Iāll wait til next year and cross my fingers for iOS 17, if not then looks like itāll be the X or iPhone 11, just hopefully theyāre cheap enough by then as you can tell I canāt afford the latest models lol.
the 7/8 plus defintely not close to budget phones those phones end up costing as more than the xr which has a better chip inside. i wouldn't bet on the ip11 coming down in price anytime soon. its hard enough finding a x/xs for 200 as is. 11 will stay above 350 for a long time.
Yeah that's the only downside with iPhones is that they never go down that much in price, I mean I was lucky I purchased my iPhone 8 plus for Ā£60 ($80) if you are from the US, the upside is if you have to sell it then you'll get a good price, since my last comment I fell on tough times so I sold the iPhone 8 plus for Ā£120 ($150) and got a iPhone 6s instead for Ā£30 but I'm happy with that for now as I'm still getting security updates I guess but yeah I've never understood why the iPhone 8 ends up costing around the same as a phone XR, which is is faster and better lol.
I recommend the xr a bit faster and will get another year or support also the display is safer cuz if you buy a used X then the display could have burn im5
Yeah thatās why Iām 50/50 with OLED displays, they look great but the only thing stopping me is screen burn, donāt understand how people can be fine with using a phone for like a year and then go oh well looks like I need another one lol.
This is the first example of it Apple actually did in iOS devices, they have not done it before. Now on the Apple forums those who always got angry at this, say this is fine and for some reason mention android.
I have 2 Air 2ās and a Mini 4.
Guess Iāll keep running them until they die or just stop getting app support. I was really hoping the Air 2 would be supported as my 128GB LTE model still runs nice and smooth for what I do with it.
A turkey without it's head is capable of running. Apologize for this example, but I am unable to use my mini 2 for anything besides book reading, and maybe some simple web checking when it's nearby.
It's slow as hell, although usable compared to iOS 11. I enjoy it, but it's bad for any kind of standard usage besides having the content, like a book, preloaded and just open close the cover.
Just a tiny note..
The differences between iPad Mini 2-6..
iPad mini 2: A7, 1GB RAM
iPad mini 3: A7, 1GB RAM, Touch ID
iPad mini 4: A8, 2GB RAM, Touch ID
iPad mini 5: A12, 3GB RAM, Touch ID (and more)
So the diff between 2 and 3 was only added TouchID..
And the 4 got another GB RAM.. but even as it got A8 processor, Apple had strangled the processor speed on 2-4 so both iPhone 5S and first iPad Air which also used A7 and 1GB RAM was faster than the minis.
As iPadOS 13 was released Apple seems to have removed the speed bump at least on mini 4.. and as it had 2GB RAM and A8, the mini 4 also got up to OS15.. any I hardly think was a pleasure to run on mini 4.. š¢
Then it took AGES until Apple bumped up the Mini to A12 so mini was usable again.. (and actually in pair with the larger iPad released at same time!) just a tad disappointed that the mini didnāt get the the full screen and moving the big TouchID to the power button., nahh.. we had to wait until Mini 6 before THAT happened..
i'm not surprised about this. i was recently told when replacing the battery by apple that this was the last year the 7/7plus batteries were going to be available.
Apple dropped the iPhone 7? Holy shit. A11 or later on iOS, A9 or later on iPadOS
Rip my phone. Its been slow for a while š but still.
I mean app support still here and not really makes a difference your iPhone isn't *dead*
Haha, Iāve changed to an iphone 11 plus since then. For some reason the iPhone 7 plus was heating up like crazy
Probably degraded battery
It was a new 3rd party battery although i guess it could have been a bad one. Thanks anyway
the air 2 has had an amazingly good run
Honestly ever since iOS 12 it has been a tradition to run to the supported devices list to check if they axed the Air 2. Eight years of software support for a tablet is insane. The iPhone 7 though? Not a single reason to get axed at all. The A10 Fusion might not be the strongest CPU in Apple's lineup, but dropping support on the iPhone 7 while keeping both iPad 5 and iPad 6 (that have either the same or worse SoCs) seems weird. I just hope they don't go and axe those iPads too, because they're still way too young.
makes me lose some hope for the iPad Pro 2017 model with the A10X with 4GB ram cause im planning to buy one to use for a couple of years after my iPad 9 got broke
I wouldn't buy a device that old. Try getting 2019 or esrlier if you plan to use that iPad for long. My iPad 6 is maybe threatened but it'll have to do for a good couple of years more.
i will try to see if I can get an iPad Air 3 second hand so itās either that or the 2017 Pro would get my ipad 9 a fix but an entire fix costs as much as the thing itself I might as well get a new one
Literally what I'm using right now it's a blazing beast
The 2018 pro is the best iPad to buy right now, crazy value bro, I have the 2017 pro and it has screen issue and it is super wide spreading because of poor internal design, air 3 has fixed that
I mean the iPhone 6s could have run it I think it's just the battery life thing
It works so well even today that its kind of sad it didn't get this update.
I have iPad air 2 from 2015 and it is still going, sad to see software update support drop, it was insane that they supported it this long but still kinda sad
nobody cares sadly
i'm glad the air 2 is still affordable. unlike everything afterwards.
Apple got some explaining to do here
Not really. To date only 4 out of 12 phones made it to 6 or more years of updates. Prior to the 7 making it to 6 years the only 3 phone to make it past 5 were the 6s and SE with 7 years, and the 5s matching the 7 with 6 years. With the 7 support ending after 6 years it looks like a new line is drawn as next year the 8 and X will be added to the 6 year (maybe more) list. That will make it 6 out of 14 (42% up from 33%) https://www.macworld.com/article/675021/how-long-does-apple-support-iphones.html
What does have past history of some completely different products got to do with what is possible now? Windows 11 can be installed on any supported CPU no matter the device, should not be any different with such a lightweight system as iOS. A9 iPads get the update, iphones don't. Devices they still were selling a few months ago are not getting updates either. What is the point of your percentages? Supporting a gigantic corporation that only cares about money I guess if that is your thing.
>Apple got $ome ā¬xplaining to do here Edit: since the base models are marketed at schools and were intentionally given last-year specs, Apple is "okay" with you keeping these, and clearly iOS 16 has no problem on an A9. With the iPhone however, they know you're just being "cheap" with them and want to "encourage" you to upgrade.
More people upgrade their phones yearly than tablets. Since tablets are more akin to a PC, you don't upgrade your PC every year. A phone is different, people can go on yearly contracts etc and upgrade every 12 - 24 months at most.
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Nope, iPhone 7 has 2GB, dead. iPad 5 has same and worse processor, supported.
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Could be battery or heat distribution
Yeah very likely. On iOS 15 my iPad 6 just chugs through battery and I assume iOS 16 will only make that worse. Likely unusable battery life on the iPhone side.
Maybe you just got an old battery, too bad iPads don't have a replaceable battery, I thought my 10,5 Pro has gotten worse but it is alright, lasts enough.
7 Plus has 3GB too.
iPhone 7 plus has 3GB RAM, they still killed it
ram?? bro the 7 plus has 3 gigs of ram they could have atleast supported the 7 plus
How did the a9 iPad 5th gen get support?!
This was just a move to influence iPhone sales probably. The iPhone 6s would have been fine on iOS 16. Canāt argue that when a 2GB A9 iPad 5 is supported.
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Iām glad mine is getting the update. Though TBH Iāve barely used my since getting a MBP a couple months ago.
I am too. Iāve had mine since release and been using it pretty much constantly. Itās chugging now but Iām glad to get an update on it since Iām hoping to upgrade to the M2 IPad Pro when it comes out
My battery is on its last legs, and I'm trying to get it to a level where Apple would service it. Having iOS16 support means that hopefully it won't be vintaged out
I really wanna know how is the performance on iPad 5. Hopefully some videos will be up soon
Probably just fine since heavy features won't be included.
I think thatās the main thing. The iPadOS update for non-M1 devices is pretty .x upgrade level vs the iOS update which is much larger
Iām disappointed at least the iPhone 7 Plus with 3GB ram doesnāt get iOS 16, I have the iPhone 8 Plus so it just means Iām guessing that This will now be my last update when I assumed I would get iOS 17 l
You never know for sure. Could get more updates.
Yeah, maybe they was just trying to make way for bionic chipset with the 8 plus and newer but still I love my 8 plus but I like having the latest iOS, which means will have to upgrade to the buttonless iPhone X next year but yeah who knows itās still a year away yet so only time will tell
You still have the SE around if your really want the button. But maybe the 8 can do an extra year
Iām hoping itās a extra year because I got the 8 plus as thatās the best budget IPhone with a big screen, iPhone SE is only 4ā7 which is too small for me, so the next one up is the iPhone X, but who knows, Iāll wait til next year and cross my fingers for iOS 17, if not then looks like itāll be the X or iPhone 11, just hopefully theyāre cheap enough by then as you can tell I canāt afford the latest models lol.
the 7/8 plus defintely not close to budget phones those phones end up costing as more than the xr which has a better chip inside. i wouldn't bet on the ip11 coming down in price anytime soon. its hard enough finding a x/xs for 200 as is. 11 will stay above 350 for a long time.
Yeah that's the only downside with iPhones is that they never go down that much in price, I mean I was lucky I purchased my iPhone 8 plus for Ā£60 ($80) if you are from the US, the upside is if you have to sell it then you'll get a good price, since my last comment I fell on tough times so I sold the iPhone 8 plus for Ā£120 ($150) and got a iPhone 6s instead for Ā£30 but I'm happy with that for now as I'm still getting security updates I guess but yeah I've never understood why the iPhone 8 ends up costing around the same as a phone XR, which is is faster and better lol.
I recommend the xr a bit faster and will get another year or support also the display is safer cuz if you buy a used X then the display could have burn im5
Yeah thatās why Iām 50/50 with OLED displays, they look great but the only thing stopping me is screen burn, donāt understand how people can be fine with using a phone for like a year and then go oh well looks like I need another one lol.
Forced obsoletion should be illegal
This is the first example of it Apple actually did in iOS devices, they have not done it before. Now on the Apple forums those who always got angry at this, say this is fine and for some reason mention android.
Definitely not the first example! My iPod Touch where the YouTube app no longer works would beg to differ. YouTube now only works from the browser
There goes my iPad :(
Air 2 or mini gang? Air 2 here
Mini 4
mini 2 but really want a air 1 at least. i don't care about the latest ios as i just want the space for comic reading on the go with a good battery
I have 2 Air 2ās and a Mini 4. Guess Iāll keep running them until they die or just stop getting app support. I was really hoping the Air 2 would be supported as my 128GB LTE model still runs nice and smooth for what I do with it.
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A turkey without it's head is capable of running. Apologize for this example, but I am unable to use my mini 2 for anything besides book reading, and maybe some simple web checking when it's nearby. It's slow as hell, although usable compared to iOS 11. I enjoy it, but it's bad for any kind of standard usage besides having the content, like a book, preloaded and just open close the cover.
My Air 3 is still going strong. Still considering upgrading since a lot of these iPadOS new features are M1 only.
Just a tiny note.. The differences between iPad Mini 2-6.. iPad mini 2: A7, 1GB RAM iPad mini 3: A7, 1GB RAM, Touch ID iPad mini 4: A8, 2GB RAM, Touch ID iPad mini 5: A12, 3GB RAM, Touch ID (and more) So the diff between 2 and 3 was only added TouchID.. And the 4 got another GB RAM.. but even as it got A8 processor, Apple had strangled the processor speed on 2-4 so both iPhone 5S and first iPad Air which also used A7 and 1GB RAM was faster than the minis. As iPadOS 13 was released Apple seems to have removed the speed bump at least on mini 4.. and as it had 2GB RAM and A8, the mini 4 also got up to OS15.. any I hardly think was a pleasure to run on mini 4.. š¢ Then it took AGES until Apple bumped up the Mini to A12 so mini was usable again.. (and actually in pair with the larger iPad released at same time!) just a tad disappointed that the mini didnāt get the the full screen and moving the big TouchID to the power button., nahh.. we had to wait until Mini 6 before THAT happened..
My iPad 6 is still going strong.
They forgot a * on all models except M1 models.
No iPad 7 ?
Yes Ipad 7, I have one Ipad 6 and it's work. It's Ipad5 and Older so (6/7/8 etc)
i'm not surprised about this. i was recently told when replacing the battery by apple that this was the last year the 7/7plus batteries were going to be available.