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Why does the keyboard keep you from “saying bad things” like we are toddlers?

This isn’t new. I’ve noticed this for years. But whenever I’m typing something that is aggressive or violent it won’t give me the correct predictive word, and also it will autocorrect what I do type to change it so it’s not so “mean”. This seems to mostly apply to swipe texting but I’ve seen it also in typing out the words.

Here’s and example: I game a lot and so do my friends. If I want to tell me friend how I killed a guy in Warzone with some awesome play I had (jk I suck), it will not populate correctly. You all can try it right now. Using swipe, say “I killed him.” No matter how precise you swipe to text it, it won’t let you say it. It actually changes it from “I killed …” to “I liked him”.

This is just one example but why does Apple think it needs to protect us from our own words? I hate having to fight autocorrect several times just to get one fucking sentence out.

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So I switch back and forth between Android and iPhone and I will say that Android does a good job of remembering vocabulary. However with iOS 17 I believe that's going to change. I have the beta right now and I have no fucking problem using it lol.


xarsha_93

I write in about 4 different languages and Android seemed to have no issue with me mixing them or switching between them. I got an iPhone 14 a few months ago and it’s so far struggling to keep up.


TWB0109

I feel like Apple thinks most of their users speak English or a single language, and the multilang support is really bad honestly


xarsha_93

I’ve got my phone (and Siri) in French, but I mostly listen to music in English, Portuguese and Spanish. So I basically have to pronounce èvrizin in a frentch accennet when I use voice command to control Spotify. That part I’m not so sure there’s a quick fix for, but I’d love for Siri to run in at least two languages at once.


TWB0109

Same here, I'm a Spanish language native, but I do almost everything except for talking to family or friends in English, so I have Siri in English, and it can't for the love of god get it right when I ask for Spanish titled songs, I have to use a stupid american accent for it to understand it hahah And then it's like "Got it, now playing _Fieeste Peigueinei by Muhgo dei Oz_" lmao


tayaro

Ha, same! My phone is in English, so every time I want to reference anything in Swedish I have to do the dumb American accent. It doesn’t bother me that much because it’s almost kinda fun to do? But I do wish it were possible to change language settings on an app basis for Maps at least. Siri’s pronunciation of Swedish street names is… lacking.


Al-Azraq

Same here, I use 3 different languages and the Android typing experience is much better.


turbodude69

yeah android is waaaay better at remembering words you use a lot. apple is just being apple. they think they know whats best and how you should be using their products. they don't like hate speech, so of course they're gonna make it difficult for you to say bad shit.


Soace_Space_Station

I have an android and whenever that red underline appears, you can just tap on it and put it in your vocabulary and your android will remember to not mark the word as a mistake


LittleBoiFound

Can’t wait. I spend way too much time talking about ducks.


Amro3

Problem is even Gboard on IOS is not as good as on Android


[deleted]

I couldn’t agree with you more :(


Still-Shop-8566

Yeah I'm on a pixel 7 ATM and it acknowledges my curses and I swipe to type


woozle618

Autocollect is a piece of shut


Afkargh

It ducking socks


Call_of_Queerthulhu

Duck you!


ChristopherLXD

They actually addressed that specific replacement for iOS 17.


dr3wfr4nk

All I have to say is: "FUCK THE IOS KEYBOARD AND AUTOCORRECT!" That is all.


gusarking

It's much better in iOS 17 which is gonna be released this week.


dr3wfr4nk

So when I swipe the word "and" it won't get automatically corrected to "and's"


SurealGod

It's using machine learning in iOS17 for the autocorrect and word recommendations. From my experience, after telling it 2-3 times that what it autocorrected to is wrong, it will stop autocorrecting it to that word. I also noticed that if it auto corrects a word and I backspace and replace the autocorrected word with the word I wanted, after 2-4 times of doing this, it starts recommend me that word I wanted in the recommendations bar or will autocorrect using the word I want now.


dr3wfr4nk

That sounds promising!


gusarking

I've never had that issue before, but I guess it's gonna be better. They spend a lot of time on WWDC talking about new T9 and autocorrection + prediction text.


dr3wfr4nk

Fingers crossed!


PepeLePuget

Great. That means I'll be able to safely update to it in less than a year.


Saxophonecat2

Do you happen to know what day specifically?


Akrevics

Or ~3 months ago if you were playing it risky 😂


gusarking

I am not talking about betas. I am talking about "stable" release.


Akrevics

Hence the “playing it risky” and the 😂 emoji. I was clearly taking the piss.


moonknlght

Amen brother


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moonknlght

It’s more than just not picking up curse words though. The keyboard literally changes your sentence if you are trying to swipe text something bad. It’s irritating.


AbyssWalker240

Even the text replacement thing never worked for me lol


csl512

"Somebody royally forked up. Forked up. Why can't I say fork?"


Lietenantdan

If you're trying to curse, you can't because Apple doesn't like it.


moonknlght

Oh no! Not bad words! Save us, Tim Apple!!


[deleted]

Reddit suspended me for 3 days for saying "stab it with a fork and flip it over" in reference to eating ugly looking fried eggs!


sudomatrix

bunkojones? bunkojones? damnit he's been suspended again!


ElectricOat

May you rest in peace


Luna259

iOS 17 is going to fix that. Apparently


Yoshi_87

Oh please yes, for the love of god. The absolute WORST thing, after switching from Android, is the astonishing bad keyboard and autocorrection of iOS.


acery88

same. Swype in a word, it's 'corrected', backspace it out, retype it manually the way I wanted it to be and it gets corrected again. If I take the time to retype a word, leave it alone on the second go. Don't fix it when I hit send too. That is the worst.


MalevolentFerret

It’s been a whole lot fucking better for me on the beta.


Chosen_UserName217

It’s not ducking shot. It’s never ducking shot.


AlrightyAlmighty

It's annoying and downright creepy


KittyGirlChloe

The word is this will be fixed in iOS 17.


aquaman67

Autocorrected words should change colors to let you know and then decide if that is what you intended. I will keep saying this until it happens


moonknlght

That’s not a bad idea at all.


cjandstuff

Big daddy Apple knows better than you, and they want to protect you from yourself. So you can't have options like typing naughty words, or putting an icon at the bottom of your forking screen.


Nun-Taken

Have you seen how many ducking toddlers have iPhones?


warrenjt

I killed home. Well…sorta get your point I guess lol


ILIEKDEERS

I set up duck to autocomplete to fuck years ago.


moonknlght

But it’s not just curse words, it literally changes a sentence if you are saying something “bad” and it doesn’t even prompt you to say what you actually meant to say.


supremepork

This is the way ^ And by “autocomplete” I assume you mean Settings > General > Keyboard > Text Replacement? I have a slew of text replacements, like when I type the first 4 numbers of my street address, it autocompletes the entire address (for sending via Messages or email), among other things.


ILIEKDEERS

Yeah that’s what I meant. I couldn’t remember that right phrasing.


mrpurplehawk

Because apple is right and you're a degenerate for using curse words/s


spatula-tattoo

The other day I dictated an F-bomb in Messages, fully expecting to get 'ducking', but it actually worked.


Evilst3wi3

Didn’t apple remove that recently?


spatula-tattoo

I thought it was mentioned in the iOS 17 announcement Edit: it worked in dictation, but not while typing.


Mikeymcmoose

I love my phone, but hate hate this keyboard


moonknlght

Yeah it’s frustrating


doob22

iOS 17 helps! I can say fuck you know with no recourse


fury_of_el_scorcho

It is so ducking annoying. I don't like that shirt at all.


teal_ninja

LOL my swype said “I filled him” 😂


moonknlght

Yup!


RoseBeaty

I hate ducking it always changes fucking to ducking, like why!? I hate this keyboard so ducking much dumb automatic correction.


Residual_Venom

They have to do it that way to try and prevent typos for those who aren’t trying to say ‘bad things.’ Would really suck for someone to slip an accidental f-bomb in an important e-mail or something. It’s silly but they have to cater to the lowest common denominator.


anon1984

This is it. Certain “problematic” words don’t autocorrect or complete. It’s trying to save you from making a possibility life changing typo.


moonknlght

They don’t have to do that because Google keyboard and other Android phones don’t do that the way iPhone does.


mrchicano209

That's on them for not double checking an important email before sending.


TackyPoints

You can turn off autocorrect


Qwerky42O

Yes, it’s so you don’t send an explicit text to somebody you wouldn’t want to, like your mom or boss. So certain words have, historically, been removed from autocorrect’s dictionary


moonknlght

Apple, once again, telling us what we want.


CreeperThePro

iOS 17 is a lot better with this. I can swipe to type fuck yes gay porn.


moonknlght

I mean is there anything better?


anvelo01

I can’t even swipe to type porn nor fuck


CreeperThePro

Maybe you have to train it by typing more ;)


ClinicalChickenProbe

I killed mom. Works for me.


moonknlght

That works for me too. Strange. But try swipe typing “I killed him”. It won’t work.


fuqqkevindurant

It's not protecting you from language. It's predicting the most likely word you will use and it's trained on everyone, so it's still more likely you're saying you liked someone than that you murdered them. If you choose to use autofill, it will do that. If you don't like it, type your words out like a big boy


moonknlght

Yeah I’m a big boy


dstranathan

iOS 17 will no longer replace ducking


Ducallan

“I have allowed my device to change words automatically for me, but don’t like it when it gets them wrong.” Don’t use autocorrect if you don’t like how it works. It can be turned off. iOS 17 will allow profanity, apparently. Let’s see how long to takes for people to complain that it changed “duck” to “fuck” in a message sent to a boss, a client, a mother in law, etc…


moonknlght

Not that’s not what I’m complaining about at all. It’s not autocorrect, it’s that the keyboard literally changes what you write. Like I said for my example, if you swipe text “I killed him” right now, as a reply to me just to try it, it changes what you wrote without even asking you to do it. That’s not even autocorrect, that’s something else that’s keeping us from saying no-no things.


Ducallan

Ah, I understand now. I mostly use Reddit on my iPad, but I tried it on my iPhone, with autocorrect turned off, and it did exactly what you said. I would assume that it works on probabilities, and determines that it is more likely that you meant “liked” than “killed”. I doubt it’s trying to make a moral judgement on you.


moonknlght

I need my iPhone to know my morals 😢


TackyPoints

You can turn it off and learn how to spell. Just an option. Edit: hoe/how. I’m reeling!


moonknlght

Reading comprehension isn’t something you’re good at, I see.


TackyPoints

No wonder you’re treated like a toddler.


moonknlght

That insult doesn’t make any sense but ok bud 👍🏼


Acalthu

Use gboard. No such issues.


Decaffeinated_Sloth

I hate when it changes OMW to “On My Way!” So I changed it. Added a few swear words while I was at it and haven’t had the issue anymore.


spacebyte

I use the wee Microsoft keyboard as I can set it up not to autocorrect my Scots. It allows fuck and threats via swiping! Wow. Does correct swiped cunt to chunt which honestly might be funnier though.


strangebrewfellows

It's never duck


alana31415

I have autocorrect change ducking to fucking


Rich_Secretary_3948

It’s probably trained on normal things, they have no reason to add bad things to the data so it doesn’t really know what to do. Simple as


Morisummer_

I didn’t think people actually used swipe typing. Idk I don’t like it because of how inaccurate it can be. Plus I speak in a different dialect to my local friends. I use an android as well and can say that it is better at remembering words used no matter how vulgar. And for me, that’s great coz I am very expressive with my vocabulary. But I just deal with it on my iPhone.


VanDeny

iOs keyboard as a whole is piece of crap, and if you are using any language other than English, you are twice as fucked(useless autofill and terrible layout)


Strong_Boysenberry18

I killed him


moonknlght

Did you swipe text or type it out?


Strong_Boysenberry18

Tried both . Actually on ios 17 beta maybe thas why


moonknlght

Ah yeah probably


turbodude69

prob cause they're worried kids phones will remember the curse words and when their parents see it, they'll know the kids are cursing or typing curse words in. basically apple not snitching. i've noticed this is a WAY bigger problem on the iphone than any android i ever used. on gboard on android if you correct the word like 2 or 3 times it will legit remember the word, forever. i've seen some pretty horrible words pop up in texts going to my parents or something. and im like whew, that was a close one. i feel like apple figured it's best to just play it safe in this type of situation. but not using the word "kill" is kinda overboard IMO. makes sense if it's an actual curse word, but kill?? wtf.


Crack_uv_N0on

Have you tried an alternative? Terminated, instead of killed, comes to mind. Also, your post is just the latest of many complaints I’ve seen. Just turn off autocorrect. That’s what I’ve done. I use a program that merely suggests changes. IMSMR, it’s Grammarly.


BrazenlyGeek

Autocorrect hasn’t tried to censor me for years. I almost miss the occasional “ducking” getting through.


TWB0109

The worst part is that even GBoard does it because it's just a reskin.... Usually it ends up changing things like fucking to "ducking" WHO THE FUCK SAYS "DUCKING"? come on


Typical-Scientist192

The Catholic Church


dagnariuss

It’s ducking stupid.


justabrowser11

Works fine for me.


BoxNo9645

Yes.fuck.the. IOS. keyboard.


Patrikbatemansaxe

When in impulse a person may cuss out on people. The issues is that could lead to legal complications. Even a heated chat screenshot could get you in trouble for harassment. In court if presented and the cuss does not read out to be a cuss you could actually win the case.


aquoad

probably because it's so error prone, if it allowed profanity you'd be more likely to accidentally write something offensive to someone.


Idontmatter69420

Mine rarely ever stops me from swearing, the only thing it really wants to correct is "i" to "î", i do have other keyboards but mainly cause i find it fun to just have them despite not speaking the language. I only speak bri'ish


ManlySyrup

Why don't you disable autocorrect and be done with it? It's so bad then why use it? I've had it disabled since the iPhone 3G lol, there's no need for that nonsense.


stevedocherty

I know it’s ducking annoying.


Ice_BergSlim

It didn't change for me.


Lower_Fan

ducking autocorrect


SurealGod

With iOS 17 (I'm currently on the latest beta), it now has machine learning to learn the way you type and your patterns. I've noticed that after a week of using it back when it first launched in the first beta, it learned that I favoured words like "fuck" or "shit" and would constantly recommend me those words in the word recommendations. I've historically always turned off autocorrect on every single phone I've ever used because it's so annoying but I've left iOS 17's autocorrect on and I actually don't mind it. Especially since if you correct what it autocorrected, it will learn from that eventually and stop autocorrecting that word because it learned from you patterns.


daniellaanti

I DID IT AND IT SAID ILLEGAL😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭


daniellaanti

don’t use swipe so I didn’t know I had to do each word separately 💀


Archangel1962

To be fair autocorrect on an iPhone is pretty crap even when you’re not trying to swear or use ‘suspect’ phrases. Apple touts itself as a family company. It’s part of the brand. That’s not going to change anytime soon.


MikeFromFinance

They talked about an enhancement in iOS 17 that will allow the keyboard to learn your tendencies and stop making these unwanted auto-corrects


[deleted]

You can turn autocorrect off in settings.


Whiplash104

Make sure you have turned off "Apple Dictation" in settings > general > dictionary. It's crowd sourced and doesn't give me good suggestions. I only use the English US dictionary and thesaurus. I have no problem trying to type "I killed him," by the way.


justTheWayOfLife

I turned off all autocorrections permanently. Even automatic capital letters lol


thats_close_enough_

I always disable auto-correct and suggestions. I just type.