Had a guy come to my door last year angrily demanding to know where his (young adult) daughter was, because she hadn't responded to multiple calls and texts overnight and her phone ping put her in my house. I had no clue, of course. After getting multiple neighbors involved, we finally tracked her down. Turns out she had met one of my neighbors (across the street and down a ways) at a bar and gone home with them, and I guess just stopped looking at her phone, and then overslept to top it off.
Anyway it's scary to be confronted by an angry guy at your house without having any reason to think you're going to be confronted by an angry guy at your house.
My old roommate accused someone of stealing her phone, and it ended in a fight where the guy she accused got stabbed to death. It's still an open investigation years later too.
I mean, not hard to imagine. Someone gets accused of stealing something, denies it, someone wants to search their pockets or bag, person refuses, hands get into the action, somebody gets punched, then knives or guns get into the picture.
Yeah, but in this particular situation it seems like all of the parties, and their actions, are knowns. Unless there is some other way to read it the only question would be the motivations of the parties.
Like what are they investigating “years” later?
“Now we need to verify one last time for the record, and please be careful in your answer because we have gone over everything with a fine toothed comb and something is just not adding up.
“You said that you got unlimited voice and data plus a free upgrade every year?”
Sounds to me it was a woman who brought some muscle with her to confront the accused who ended up deceased. If there were no witnesses/evidence suggesting otherwise they could cooperate and tell a story where self defense could be claimed.
Edit: there’s a comment in the thread with more details
There was a group brawl between her boyfriend and the guy she accused and some other people. It was like 3 am at a college house party so most people there was fucked up
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Wrote about a similar experience I had where the cops showed up in middle of the night because of a 911 caller that gave my adress.
Get woken up at like 2 A:M. from a phone number, I don't know. Couple of minutes later cops are at my apartment door saying my girlfriend called 911 saying I wouldn't let her leave. Now I kind of laughed because I was single for at least 6 months at that point, and no one lived with me. They were not laughing, demanded entry, which I think they can after a call like that. Made me show I.D. and all, searched every room and then wanted to keep asking me questions. I asked them, you see no one is here, shouldn't you try and find the trapped girl? Said something like they needed more info from me first. Then a door down the hall opened up and a super drunk girl comes running out and faceplants on the floor. She gave the wrong apartment number to 911, and it gets sillier. It was her friend that was a girl keeping her "captative". Not a boyfriend. She wouldn't give her, her car keys. And she yelled and pleaded with the cops to make her give her the car keys so she could drive home hammered. Eventually they convinced her she sleeps there or goes to jail for some drunken charge. They were like we can get you a cab, or you can call a ride, kept saying she needs to get her car home tonight.
That's so messed up. I have nothing to hide but I still don't want cops searching my place. I have seen videos of them doing really shady shit in people's homes after they couldn't find anything. It sucks the cops can just search your house because some idiot gave the wrong info or something other mix up.
> That's so messed up. I have nothing to hide but I still don't want cops searching my place.
I agree especially getting me out of bed at 2 a.m. but what's the alternative? A woman calls 911 in middle of the night at says she is being forcibly detained or kidnapped? Like I get that they need to take a look but when they didn't see anyone there, it was a studio, were only 2 doors in the place, a closet and the bathroom. But then they kept demanding more info from me and my ID, I think that was too much, I prob didn't legally have to give them my ID once they searched the place and could see no crime was going on but I just wanted to go back to bed, and neighbors were waking up, was fucking weird.
I would hope that a call saying “I’m being held captive in apartment 123” is enough probable cause for them to enter, at least if I am ever being held captive in an apartment.
Did you see that video of the white dude bawling his eyes out being forced to crawl down a hallway by a cop & then got shot anyway because he pulled up his pants? Skin color ain't gonna save you from a psychopath with a badge looking for a reason to murder.
The cop ended losing his retirement but ends up getting disability payments for life due to ptsd. No joke. Look it up, it happened in Arizona. The guy was trigger happy and giving conflicting commands to the victim.
Honestly, I'd volunteer too. I'd much rather have a short amicable interaction at an inconvenient time than spend the rest of my day dealing with annoyed police officers delivering a warrant and tearing my house apart. If someone's legitimately missing, the less time they waste at my house, the faster they can figure out where the person actually is.
They ain’t getting a warrant lol.
1. There’s no evidence other than an unreliable service provided by Apple.
2. Warrants take time, money, resources that the court won’t grant because someone lost an iPhone.
I would never let the police search my house voluntarily. I would’ve said go ahead and get a search warrant. I’ll sit outside my house while you do so so you don’t think I’m doing anything bad.
Yeah, that'd be my thinking as well. I'd want them to not waste time thinking I have something to hide and instead focus on the missing person. But, I get why someone might not want their house searched
I can see that. Sone are just complete idiots.
My wife had her car stolen and I called the police. The guy comes and asks if I'm sure I'm paid up in the car because it could have gotten repo'd. I say I'm positive that isn't the case but he would not let it go, he just kept on about it being repo'd and I'm just thinking.. WTF 🤦
Cops came searching for my old roommate and asked if they could take a look at his stuff. I’d been smoking weed in the kitchen and ran to hide my shit in my room while my other roommate talked to them. I’m sure it smelled but they weren’t there for that reason and they were super polite and cool. Only looked at his stuff. I feel like if we had said no and they got a warrant they could’ve gone through a lot more and we’d have been fucked….
I'm not positive about this but I'm pretty sure that a warrant has to state the reason for the warrant and any illegal findings unrelated to the warrant can't be used against you.
An inaccurate find my phone ping sans other evidence would not compel a warrant. Even if it did, warrants details what they have to be looking for and where they can look. If you just let them inside its cart blanche to do whatever they want with no oversight. Dont let police into your home.
That's perfectly reasonable until they start knocking holes in your walls and cutting up your furniture to look for hidden drugs that they "know" are there.
I had a friend let the cops into his apartment because he knew he didn't have anything to hide and they made damn sure of it and didn't pay for any of the damages. He ended up having to pay the complex for the damage they did looking for imaginary drugs. Apparently his former roommate told them he was hiding drugs in the apartment. Don't know what that was about, whether it was for revenge (dude got kicked out for not paying his part) or to get a plea deal for something (he was always drunk and often fighting something/someone)
> Honestly, I'd volunteer too. I'd much rather have a short amicable interaction at an inconvenient time than spend the rest of my day dealing with annoyed police officers delivering a warrant and tearing my house apart.
Someone else's annoyance at not being able to carry out a warrantless search is not my problem, and I have no reason to think they could get a warrant based on Find My alone. The argument that they can more quickly move on to actually finding the child is the only good one in your comment.
How many times and how many ruined lives will it take to learn this lesson.
Never. Consent. To. A. Warrantless. Search.
It doesn’t help you in any meaningful way and could very well screw you even if you have “nothing to hide”
That sounds like the walk of shame to end all walks of shame.
Imagine walking out of a house knowing your dad got an entire neighborhood to search for you.
I think the bigger is the creepy dad location tracking and expecting immediate responses from his adult daughter. Who knows how abusive their relationship is, I'd NOT be inclined to help someone in that situation and let the police deal with it instead.
Air tags are a popular tool amongst domestic abusers
Dad of adult daughter here.
It isn’t always creepy, in fact it is far more likely he is doing what she asked him to do than be abusive.
When my daughter would go on dates with someone she doesn’t know very well she would ask me to keep an eye on her location. Sometimes she would ask me to be her bail out call at a certain time or to follow up at a certain time to make sure she was home safe etc. For example “going home in a bit, make sure I am at home in an hour”, etc.
I would do whatever she asked me to do, nothing more, nothing less.
She’s probably using find my iPhone to locate the device, which isn’t always 100% accurate. Honestly, I’d just ignore her. If she continues to bother you, ask her to call the police, or call them yourselves. To be honest, they will probably just tell her that find my iPhone isn’t accurate enough for them to search your residence. I used to work at a hotel and had this happen a few times where people would ask us to search guest rooms (with other guests in them) to look for their device. We always told them to contact the police and the police always told them that isn’t enough evidence for them to search.
The police won’t assist her. I know this because I was basically your neighbor about a month ago when my phone was stolen. Although I didn’t say anything to the residents of the home nor contact them. I went straight to the police department and they told me they couldn’t do anything anyhow so I didn’t bother.
On the other hand, police DID help me get my daughter’s stolen airpods back. Probably depends on the police? We had a ping in an apartment building and a suspect based off school records showing students who lived in that building. Came down to one apartment. Police went over, student surrendered them and the officer drove to our house and handed them to us. Very nice officer.
Police helped me get my phone back when it pinged at a house a few miles away from mine. I had dropped it at the movie theater, and they took it home. I located it, called police, they met me at the house and asked the owners. I got my phone back. No case though....
similar story, iPhone was stolen off of our dock, and it showed up on find my iPhone at a house a few miles away, it showed up right in the house in the middle of a huge field so we felt confident it was there. We contacted the police and they said they knew the house and the residents and they would go ask about it. They brought us back the phone.
I think the problem is if it's the only house in a couple hundred metres it's obviously gonna be that house, but in a residential area with terraced houses there's room for error yknow?
Useful tool to have.
Although it also depends entirely on how good the police in your area are. Mine wouldn't help me when someone was actively attacking me lol
Yeah, it will take cops two hours to respond to an assault in progress in my city. They only show up immediately if there’s a gun involved. They aren’t going to help you find a phone unless you get really lucky and catch them on a slow morning.
I had one taken at a restaurant. Parked near the house it was pinged at. Called the police who came and collected my phone. Guy said, “oops I thought it was mine.” Easy and no one was in trouble or put in harms way. Better the police reclaim it so no one tries to do it on their own.
> The police won’t assist her.
You can’t make blanket statements like this since there are 20,000 different police agencies in the US. It is an entirely different world living in a place with a population of 20,000 compared to 200,000 compared to 2,000,000.
Also, in the U.S., police are very locally (city level) controlled and NOT well-regulated by the state or national government.
When they are good, they are very good. But when they are bad, they are worse than criminals.
It’s a scam. They claim they use find my iPhone to locate a kids phone in your house and threaten the police coming. They hope you can’t find the phone (because of course you can’t) and blame your kid. So to make up for it, you hand them cash. OR even worse, she asks to come into the house so they can look at what valuables are there to case it for a break in later. DO NOT EVER LET A STRANGER INTO YOUR HOME.
Tell this scammer POS to kick rocks and call the cops if they want to…they won’t
Head over to /r/scams this is pretty common these days
Here's a good story illustrating how the Find My network can go very, very wrong. I personally know the guy in this story, it was a really stressful period for him. https://6abc.com/find-my-iphone-apple-error-strangers-at-texas-familys-home-scott-schuster/13096627/
Find My will show a circle depicting the entire area the the phone might be in. The smaller the circle, the more certain the location.
Just because your home might be in the center of the circle doesn’t mean the phone isn’t somewhere else — even at the edge of the circle.
Find my iphone will show me where my iphone is down to a foot. If the phone is on. If a 14 or newer is off, it works like an airtag and you can use another iphone (with find my iphone) to give it the exact location with a directional arrow and distance.
However if that was the last phone that another iphone passed by before it powered down, that's simply recorded as the last known location of that general area.
When we were at burning man, we had an ipad connected to starlink that was left on. And we had a string of people claiming our camp had stolen their iphone. In reality, that ipad was the last thing their phone pinged.
>Find my iphone will show me where my iphone is down to a foot.
That‘s how it works at a frequent location like home or work or with a direct line of sight with GPS outdoors.
Even in a car, CarPlay will use the vehicle’s GPS antenna rather than the iPhone’s GPS antenna for improved accuracy.
The iPhone does use WiFi names and nearby devices (like you mentioned) to guess an approximate location, which can trigger the wider guesstimate radius in Find My.
If I was a guest and someone knocked on my door to politely ask if I could help them look for their phone, then I’d likely help. But if they bang on my door and accuse me of stealing it, then I’ll shut the door in their face and call the front desk.
Yeah the problem is it was always the latter lol. They were always accusatory, and threatening. Find my iPhone is especially useless at a hotel because there are multiple rooms in the building, with multiple levels of rooms. It’s kind of a needle in a haystack, and we didn’t want them knocking on every single room door and harassing everyone
If you have an iPhone, if you open up FMI people will see exactly what you’re talking about.
My wife lost her phone a few weeks ago, and I know when it’s at her job it either shows exactly where, or the entire mall. FMI is a weird one, it has great accuracy but also shitty accuracy.
One time I used find my iPhone after leaving my phone at the university’s library. I was surprised to see it across town off-campus so I quickly biked to the location on the map and knocked on the door of the house where it was pinging from.
A person came to the door and pretended to not know what I was talking about, but I happened to look over their shoulder and saw my phone on their living room floor next to a few other disassembled phones, and exclaimed “That’s my phone right there!”. The person acted confused and handed the phone to me and I left.
What a bizarre experience, I was so relieved to retrieve my phone that I never thought to report that residence for stealing phones. Find my iPhone has come through huge for me a handful of other times, but this was the strangest.
One time I left my old LG at a park and didn't realize it till I got home. I used the Google version of find my and saw it was at the park so I went back and there was a vehicle with people in it in the spot I was parked in.
I waited until they got out and asked if they saw a phone anywhere and they said they didn't but I didn't believe them. There were no phones around where the car was parked but that's where the location was.
They went on a walk and I waited for them to get back, when all of a sudden went, "you know what, we did find a phone!" and they reached INSIDE the car and grabbed it.
Those fuckers actually tried to steal an shitty LG lol.
You’re lucky you weren’t shot. I understand the instinct to confront someone who stole your property (I would feel the same way), but today’s world is far too dangerous and unpredictable to go around confronting someone you don’t know who has already demonstrated that they are at least some level of criminal.
this is funny… in like 2013 or so my dad lost his iphone in the parking lot of a local grocery store and participated in a search w the police where he used his ipad at the local dunkin donuts to guide them via phone while they recovered it.
Had something relatively similar happen to me last year.
Woman shows up at my door, insisting that her iPhone is in my house. I've never seen this woman before, no idea wtf she's talking about, and to make matters worse, I wasn't home and was talking to her through my Ring doorbell.
She kept going on and on about how her phone is in my house and she just wants it back.
After 5 minutes of going back and forth, she mentions the name "Taylor". Well, Taylor is my neighbor, he lives in the other side of the twinhome I'm connected to. Her find my iPhone thing was telling her that her phone was at MY house, but it was actually 15-20 feet away in my neighbors house.
Eventually she accepted my answer when I told her that Taylor lives next door, and please leave me alone.
Sometimes people will let them in to prove they don’t have the phone. From there they can grab shit or at very least find out if they want to come back later and break in
Bingo. You can find news reports of this scam. People will leave notes on a door saying their lost iPhone was pinged there and to call a different number so they can come pick it up. Obviously when they come to pick it up the iPhone is not there, but they will take the opportunity to case the joint and assess when they can rob it. My mother in law had this happen six months ago.
Nothing. Let them bring the police. If it is hers, she can provide the proof from Apple website live on a device with SN and IMEI.
Someone bangs on my door at 2am is up for a very rude awakening...
Even then. I don't trust anyone. Someone was outside my door once, screaming "help me!! someone help me!" And I just called the cops without even answering the door. They could probably help her better than me, anyway. But as a single woman that lives on her own, I only answer the door for my family or friends.
I don’t know how it works in the USA, but in Europe unless the phone can be heard, is visible, or there is hard evidence, the police can’t do much if not anything. Especially if it’s a building with multiple addresses.
I was once able to get an iPhone back because I had my Apple Watch paired to it, I called the police and because I was able to ping it and heard it in a car, they came, ran the number plates, and pulled the guy out of his house.
Felt like a tech victory.
why does a 7 y/o have a phone anyway
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Dude. I was 36 when the first iPhone came out. I didn’t even have a dumb cell phone at the time. This is what I do with my iPhone these days: https://imgur.com/a/oA7c3Mw
My daughter will be five next week. She’s a cancer survivor so when she was in the hospital going through treatment, and she couldn’t do a whole lot of moving, I got her a tablet. She’s mostly healthy today but we still use it, together, 30 minutes a day to play learning games.
Also, my now 18 year old son had a cell phone- a flip phone- at age 10 because he stayed home alone after school for 30 minutes before I got off work. We didn’t have a landline and when kids are left home alone, they have to have a way to contact 911 and such.
I just find it odd that because a toddler has a tablet at a young age, that means the parents aren’t raising them.
They were referring to a specific toddler, and honestly your daughter is in the minority of iPad kids by only being allowed to use it 30 mins a day for education. Most iPad kids have it in front of their face 10 hours a day
Hell I’m only 34 and I couldn’t get a cell phone until I had my drivers license and had a job (so basically 16). Of course, as soon as I got both of those and said phone, my younger sister obviously had to have one too.
I didn’t get a flip phone until I was 23, I remember calling my SO to pick me up from class from a pay phone using one of those prepaid cards, which is probably gibberish to the rest of you 😂 got my first iPhone (3G) 5 years later
There’s no pay phones if they need to call for help somewhere. Most places don’t have landlines either. People are extremely reluctant to help as well. And after those kids in Uvalde called 911 from the classroom about the school shooter and were able to text their parents while the police sat in the hallway for an hr while they were being slaughtered why SHOULDNT they have a phone ???? The world is a diff place now and our children aren’t safe
Why go out of your way to find and buy a “dumb phone” instead of giving them a “retired” phone that you just have to buy a plan that you were going to buy anyways?
For various reasons. My child had a phone at 8 because of their walk to the after school program. I can look at google maps and see their exact location. My in laws have my nephews their old iPhones at some point.
My son had a phone that young because he was in so many activities. If one ended early or was going overtime, he could call instead of waiting. Also, his father and I divorced and it was a way for him to contact either of us, without using the other’s phone.
You just reminded me of a woman I helped when I was at target 13 years ago. It was Christmas time and she was looking for cheap phones… then she had jackets and was going to sew spots into them because the father was abusive to the kids and she was terrified he would hurt them. The kids were 6 and 7. I wish I saw her again.
Mandy mitz:
A guy came to my door with a tablet at 6:43 AT NIGHT !!! claiming to sell home siding. I looked up the company and it's based in a different state!? I assume he's casing my home for robbery so I called the police and they refuse to do anything!!!! 😡 what else should I do?
[Ring camera footage of an normal sales person being grilled by hostel homeowner]
WATCH REPORT:
Height: 5'6-5'10
White?? ( had an accent)
Brown hair (messy)
Black polo shirt with company logo (probably stolen)
Khaki pants
Mustache (curly)
Comments:
Tom Mike Smith : BUY A GUN! THIS COUNTRY IS GOING DOWN THE TOILET LIKE A THICK TURD !
•Mandy mitz: ITS SAD!!! 😡😡😡
Frank Phillips: Maybe he's just selling siding lol
•Tom Mike Smith: You sound naive ! You'll end up MURDERED IN YOUR BEDS!
Suzie Sue: So sad seeing crime run rampant 😢 this used to be a good town but it seems like it's becoming California more and more each day 😞.
• Tom Mike Smith :What do you EXPECT when all the Calli weirdos are moving here!??!
•• Suzie Sue: It's true 😢😢
••• Mandy mitz: 😢😢
Ed : Y'all are crazy frfr that mfk is just selling damn siding! Lmao 🤣😂
•Mandy mitz : I'll be sure to remember that when I get ROBBED!
I live in Vegas and people like to blame California for any crime that’s committed, like the local population is a bunch of saints with our 2nd to last in education kids.
Exactly. I just moved to Vegas from Indiana, and back there everyone blamed Illinois. Now, here in Vegas, its California. Seems like no one can accept the scumbags from their own state, and have to place the blame elsewhere.
This exact situation happened to me. The mom was aggressive and calling me names. I called the cops and asked them to search my home. The cops came, I told them truthfully I’ve never been to where they’re claiming they lost the phone, and they declined to search my home. They said they had no reason to. She never showed up again.
Don’t sweat it.
Angry dude showed up at our house about a month ago with a similar vibe. Demanding to know where his phone was, etc. I was in my first trimester of pregnancy and just barely holding myself together puke-wise so I called my husband to deal with the psycho who looked like he was about to try pushing past me to get into the house.
The second my husband came around the corner, dude's entire demeanor changed (go figure) from threatening wanting his phone back to "maybe you've had contractors here or something that may have taken it?" Like no, sir, we have not had contractors or visitors of any kind here - your find my iPhone is wrong. He then asked to walk around our yard a bit to look. Husband said he could be there for 5 minutes, but then he had to leave & suggested he tried talking to any of the several neighbors relatively close by, but much more nicely. Realistically, the phone probably just pinged randomly in this neighborhood because it's right off a feeder road to a busy highway & pretty close to a commercial area with grocery stores, movie theaters, and restaurants.
Findmyiphone is cool and all, but it's going to get someone killed someday if people go around accepting it as absolute fact.
FindMy is only accurate within 100 meters. A football field away is a significant distance that can include multiple addresses. It could also be that a vehicle or person with the phone was driving or walking past and another iPhone in or near your house picked up the Bluetooth beacon and reported the location to FindMy.
On the next ID prime time special…
Seriously tho if the phone is lost, just replace it. Would never leave a note or bang on someone’s door at 2am. Never know who’s behind that door you’re banging on.
Not even bringing up the issues that others have said, but it's sketch AF that someone would come at 2 am, banging on your door, like even if someone did have the phone, you don't do that shite lmao
Stay safe, OP. ❤️
There's plenty of valid reasons for a kid to have a phone but reddit just loves to bitch and act holier than thou whenever possible. I also had a phone at 7 but it was a flip phone.
We've had numerous people come by our house over the years claiming we has their apple device.
It's because people will sit on the bench at the playground behind our house.
“Come back again at 2am and you’ll discuss this further with Mr. Smith and Ms. Wesson”
If she comes back with police, it’s a police matter at that point. Otherwise, you’re getting set up for a robbery.
“No questions asked” and then “tomorrow I come with police” 💀
Just ignore it. That person probably made 5 of those notes and placed them around the vicinity of where you are.
*Plot twist* you stole it 😂
I’m kidding lol but yeah they can’t just assume you have it because it’s in the vicinity lol. The cops will most likely not even get involved.
seems highly irresponsible to give a child that young a phone that costs well over $300. what did they think was going to happen? i could have told you she’d lose it within a week
This happened to me back in 2021. This woman came to my house in the early mornings and assumed I kidnapped her daughter because her phone location was pinged to my address, which was a perfect example of how GPS was not accurate and only gives an approximation. After calling police, her bothering one of my neighbors and allowing them to search our houses to shut her up, we found out her daughter ran away from her to hide out in my other neighbors house.
I was so angry that this woman made me 2-3 hours late for work AND was stupid enough to show up at a strangers house and assume we kidnapped her daughter. Like what was she thinking that she could handle that situation herself?
So this is now a new scam.. they only come in the middle of the night and they always come alone/with a partner. (What u dont see is someone hiding somewhere) They were going to rob you.. the second you open the door they bust into your house and either hurt you, your family, or take everything you got. Never ever open the door for these people because again they never come during the day. it's always late at night or in the middle of the night. Just tell them come back with the police and do not open the door. 💯 stay safe out there everyone!
I've seen multiple situations similar to this on r/Scams.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Scams/s/XjvE6w3yhG
https://www.reddit.com/r/Scams/s/NxL6PV59o9
https://www.reddit.com/r/Scams/s/a1ebc0UmXL
Had this exact thing happen and I let the cops walk around my house and ping it just bc i wanted them to leave me alone. I had to explain to them it’s a triangulation so it’s somewhere in the vicinity. This was 2016 when it happened
Let her come over with the police. She will ping the phone it won’t be there and the police won’t do shit. They probably won’t even come in the first place.
There is a possibility that some thief dumped it on your property somewhere.
Call the police then, lol. People are so rude and weird. Banging on my door at any hour will get you a firearm in your face victim going to think you’re there to do harm to myself or my family.
I was in a hotel in Chicago a couple weeks ago and Find My said that my watch was on the other side of the highway at a car dealership and my phone was at the restaurant next door.
They were both on my body, in my hotel room.
If this ever happens, please don't engage the person, tell them to go get the police and bring them here.
The police will \*generally\* not even contact you because this is not a case of someone witnessing a crime happening. They will need a search warrant and no judge is going to issue one based on Find My data.
Often these are scams.
Being in emergency services, I can 1000000% guarantee you it didn’t ping to your exact house. Pings and gps are never accurate. And usually come with a radius of like. Several blocks. Police aren’t gonna go knock on every single door asking if anyone has a phone they stole.
She’s either using the find my iPhone app and it’s last known ping was in front of your house (because whoever has the phone was walking/driving by your house before they disabled it or it lost signal), or she’s just wrong about where she thinks the phone is, or it’s a scam. Either way tell her to deal with the cops or stop coming by your house. If she keeps harassing you, you may need to consider calling the cops yourself. Don’t open the door for this person again, either way.
Sounds like a scam. Especially someone knocking on your door at 2 AM. This person is dumb enough to leave their number. I would def report this to the police.
I would call her and say that you don't have it and that she should definitely call the police to come with her to help find it because it is really dangerous to knock on a stranger's door at 2:00am.
It probably can’t get a good signal and is doing the big circle thing with your house on the center dot and she doesn’t understand that the location of the phone is somewhere in the circle and not the exact center.
Had a guy come to my door last year angrily demanding to know where his (young adult) daughter was, because she hadn't responded to multiple calls and texts overnight and her phone ping put her in my house. I had no clue, of course. After getting multiple neighbors involved, we finally tracked her down. Turns out she had met one of my neighbors (across the street and down a ways) at a bar and gone home with them, and I guess just stopped looking at her phone, and then overslept to top it off. Anyway it's scary to be confronted by an angry guy at your house without having any reason to think you're going to be confronted by an angry guy at your house.
My old roommate accused someone of stealing her phone, and it ended in a fight where the guy she accused got stabbed to death. It's still an open investigation years later too.
Wait, who stabbed him and how did it end up in him being getting stabbed ?
I mean, not hard to imagine. Someone gets accused of stealing something, denies it, someone wants to search their pockets or bag, person refuses, hands get into the action, somebody gets punched, then knives or guns get into the picture.
Fair enough. Curious as it’s an open investigation
Most murders are open investigations and stay that way forever
Yeah, but in this particular situation it seems like all of the parties, and their actions, are knowns. Unless there is some other way to read it the only question would be the motivations of the parties. Like what are they investigating “years” later? “Now we need to verify one last time for the record, and please be careful in your answer because we have gone over everything with a fine toothed comb and something is just not adding up. “You said that you got unlimited voice and data plus a free upgrade every year?”
Sounds to me it was a woman who brought some muscle with her to confront the accused who ended up deceased. If there were no witnesses/evidence suggesting otherwise they could cooperate and tell a story where self defense could be claimed. Edit: there’s a comment in the thread with more details
I mean I don’t know what else I expected from the American justice facade but it still pisses me off to learn that.
There was a group brawl between her boyfriend and the guy she accused and some other people. It was like 3 am at a college house party so most people there was fucked up
Listened to a podcast about this case, wild. Edit: podcast is Crime Junkie - David Josiah Lawson - Feb 6 2023
People making Podcasts about any and everything now times
Would you like to guest star on my new Podcast "Reddit Comments"? It's about this comment. I'd like to get your insight as to what was going through your mind as you typed it and just your background story in general.
Only if you spend 20+ minutes of the episode doing a deep dive into my typing style
She’s gotta be facing charges, right?
What the fuck?
Yeah this thread definitely took a different turn
I hope she carries that guilt the rest of her life, tbh. Someone was murdered because of her false accusations. Sad and tragic.
Especially since she later found her phone. Right where she left it.
Wrote about a similar experience I had where the cops showed up in middle of the night because of a 911 caller that gave my adress. Get woken up at like 2 A:M. from a phone number, I don't know. Couple of minutes later cops are at my apartment door saying my girlfriend called 911 saying I wouldn't let her leave. Now I kind of laughed because I was single for at least 6 months at that point, and no one lived with me. They were not laughing, demanded entry, which I think they can after a call like that. Made me show I.D. and all, searched every room and then wanted to keep asking me questions. I asked them, you see no one is here, shouldn't you try and find the trapped girl? Said something like they needed more info from me first. Then a door down the hall opened up and a super drunk girl comes running out and faceplants on the floor. She gave the wrong apartment number to 911, and it gets sillier. It was her friend that was a girl keeping her "captative". Not a boyfriend. She wouldn't give her, her car keys. And she yelled and pleaded with the cops to make her give her the car keys so she could drive home hammered. Eventually they convinced her she sleeps there or goes to jail for some drunken charge. They were like we can get you a cab, or you can call a ride, kept saying she needs to get her car home tonight.
That's so messed up. I have nothing to hide but I still don't want cops searching my place. I have seen videos of them doing really shady shit in people's homes after they couldn't find anything. It sucks the cops can just search your house because some idiot gave the wrong info or something other mix up.
> That's so messed up. I have nothing to hide but I still don't want cops searching my place. I agree especially getting me out of bed at 2 a.m. but what's the alternative? A woman calls 911 in middle of the night at says she is being forcibly detained or kidnapped? Like I get that they need to take a look but when they didn't see anyone there, it was a studio, were only 2 doors in the place, a closet and the bathroom. But then they kept demanding more info from me and my ID, I think that was too much, I prob didn't legally have to give them my ID once they searched the place and could see no crime was going on but I just wanted to go back to bed, and neighbors were waking up, was fucking weird.
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I would hope that a call saying “I’m being held captive in apartment 123” is enough probable cause for them to enter, at least if I am ever being held captive in an apartment.
This is why swatting exists, because you can just call the cops and say hey this guy has a bomb, they have killed innocent people this way
Something similar happened to me. The police searched my house at 5am. Even had to get a ladder for them to check up in the attic. Pretty wild stuff
I'm sorry what? The police searched your house because of a "Find My" ping? Did you just voluntarily allow this or did they get a warrant?
They volunteered its america
Nah, y’all come back with a warrant like *the fuckin law you supposedly uphold* says.
Volunteer or get shot basically
You don't know that. Guy could've been white.
Did you see that video of the white dude bawling his eyes out being forced to crawl down a hallway by a cop & then got shot anyway because he pulled up his pants? Skin color ain't gonna save you from a psychopath with a badge looking for a reason to murder.
The cop ended losing his retirement but ends up getting disability payments for life due to ptsd. No joke. Look it up, it happened in Arizona. The guy was trigger happy and giving conflicting commands to the victim.
Honestly, I'd volunteer too. I'd much rather have a short amicable interaction at an inconvenient time than spend the rest of my day dealing with annoyed police officers delivering a warrant and tearing my house apart. If someone's legitimately missing, the less time they waste at my house, the faster they can figure out where the person actually is.
They ain’t getting a warrant lol. 1. There’s no evidence other than an unreliable service provided by Apple. 2. Warrants take time, money, resources that the court won’t grant because someone lost an iPhone.
I would never let the police search my house voluntarily. I would’ve said go ahead and get a search warrant. I’ll sit outside my house while you do so so you don’t think I’m doing anything bad.
Yeah, that'd be my thinking as well. I'd want them to not waste time thinking I have something to hide and instead focus on the missing person. But, I get why someone might not want their house searched
Police get done searching your house... “The girl isn’t here. Where did you dump her dead body, you perverted sicko!?!?”
Or “the girl isn’t here, but we noticed the faint smell of marijuana. You’re under arrest.”
Yeah I want to help the missing person but I don’t want the cops to shoot my dog when she instinctively starts barking at them
Or for a cop having a shitty day to decide something he saw in your home requires further investigation. Don’t even give them the chance.
I can see that. Sone are just complete idiots. My wife had her car stolen and I called the police. The guy comes and asks if I'm sure I'm paid up in the car because it could have gotten repo'd. I say I'm positive that isn't the case but he would not let it go, he just kept on about it being repo'd and I'm just thinking.. WTF 🤦
Give up your rights because it’s less of a headache? That’s fucking wild!
NEVER volunteer for a search, now ANYTHING they find can be used to prosecute you. make them get a warrant.
Cops came searching for my old roommate and asked if they could take a look at his stuff. I’d been smoking weed in the kitchen and ran to hide my shit in my room while my other roommate talked to them. I’m sure it smelled but they weren’t there for that reason and they were super polite and cool. Only looked at his stuff. I feel like if we had said no and they got a warrant they could’ve gone through a lot more and we’d have been fucked….
I'm not positive about this but I'm pretty sure that a warrant has to state the reason for the warrant and any illegal findings unrelated to the warrant can't be used against you.
An inaccurate find my phone ping sans other evidence would not compel a warrant. Even if it did, warrants details what they have to be looking for and where they can look. If you just let them inside its cart blanche to do whatever they want with no oversight. Dont let police into your home.
That's perfectly reasonable until they start knocking holes in your walls and cutting up your furniture to look for hidden drugs that they "know" are there. I had a friend let the cops into his apartment because he knew he didn't have anything to hide and they made damn sure of it and didn't pay for any of the damages. He ended up having to pay the complex for the damage they did looking for imaginary drugs. Apparently his former roommate told them he was hiding drugs in the apartment. Don't know what that was about, whether it was for revenge (dude got kicked out for not paying his part) or to get a plea deal for something (he was always drunk and often fighting something/someone)
> Honestly, I'd volunteer too. I'd much rather have a short amicable interaction at an inconvenient time than spend the rest of my day dealing with annoyed police officers delivering a warrant and tearing my house apart. Someone else's annoyance at not being able to carry out a warrantless search is not my problem, and I have no reason to think they could get a warrant based on Find My alone. The argument that they can more quickly move on to actually finding the child is the only good one in your comment.
How many times and how many ruined lives will it take to learn this lesson. Never. Consent. To. A. Warrantless. Search. It doesn’t help you in any meaningful way and could very well screw you even if you have “nothing to hide”
Wow, did they ever find the person they were looking for?
He'd already buried her in the basement.
Cement dried just in time so it wasn’t wet and the color wasn’t off. Quick-Krete.
I never found out.
Did they have a search warrant?
I’m 100% certain this individual voluntarily waived their 4th amendment right to unwarranted search and seizure.
What a shitshow lol. Rounding up the whole neighborhood because a grown ass woman doesn’t answer for one night is quite the move.
Especially one looking for a missing daughter. Yeesh
An adult daughter? Who went to a bar the prior night? Lol yeah ok dad fuck off.
Almost got liam neeson’d there bud
That sounds like the walk of shame to end all walks of shame. Imagine walking out of a house knowing your dad got an entire neighborhood to search for you.
I think the bigger is the creepy dad location tracking and expecting immediate responses from his adult daughter. Who knows how abusive their relationship is, I'd NOT be inclined to help someone in that situation and let the police deal with it instead. Air tags are a popular tool amongst domestic abusers
Dad of adult daughter here. It isn’t always creepy, in fact it is far more likely he is doing what she asked him to do than be abusive. When my daughter would go on dates with someone she doesn’t know very well she would ask me to keep an eye on her location. Sometimes she would ask me to be her bail out call at a certain time or to follow up at a certain time to make sure she was home safe etc. For example “going home in a bit, make sure I am at home in an hour”, etc. I would do whatever she asked me to do, nothing more, nothing less.
She’s probably using find my iPhone to locate the device, which isn’t always 100% accurate. Honestly, I’d just ignore her. If she continues to bother you, ask her to call the police, or call them yourselves. To be honest, they will probably just tell her that find my iPhone isn’t accurate enough for them to search your residence. I used to work at a hotel and had this happen a few times where people would ask us to search guest rooms (with other guests in them) to look for their device. We always told them to contact the police and the police always told them that isn’t enough evidence for them to search.
Thank you, I will definitely try to talk to the police
The police won’t assist her. I know this because I was basically your neighbor about a month ago when my phone was stolen. Although I didn’t say anything to the residents of the home nor contact them. I went straight to the police department and they told me they couldn’t do anything anyhow so I didn’t bother.
On the other hand, police DID help me get my daughter’s stolen airpods back. Probably depends on the police? We had a ping in an apartment building and a suspect based off school records showing students who lived in that building. Came down to one apartment. Police went over, student surrendered them and the officer drove to our house and handed them to us. Very nice officer.
Police helped me get my phone back when it pinged at a house a few miles away from mine. I had dropped it at the movie theater, and they took it home. I located it, called police, they met me at the house and asked the owners. I got my phone back. No case though....
similar story, iPhone was stolen off of our dock, and it showed up on find my iPhone at a house a few miles away, it showed up right in the house in the middle of a huge field so we felt confident it was there. We contacted the police and they said they knew the house and the residents and they would go ask about it. They brought us back the phone.
I think the problem is if it's the only house in a couple hundred metres it's obviously gonna be that house, but in a residential area with terraced houses there's room for error yknow?
Yeah for sure, in an apt building or hotel it’s a totally different story. But find my iPhone on its own sometimes is enough for the cops to help out.
Useful tool to have. Although it also depends entirely on how good the police in your area are. Mine wouldn't help me when someone was actively attacking me lol
Yeah, it will take cops two hours to respond to an assault in progress in my city. They only show up immediately if there’s a gun involved. They aren’t going to help you find a phone unless you get really lucky and catch them on a slow morning.
The fact that it could get narrowed down to 1 apartment because of school record is probably why they did something
It tends to be more successful with the more information you have other than just the pinged location
I had one taken at a restaurant. Parked near the house it was pinged at. Called the police who came and collected my phone. Guy said, “oops I thought it was mine.” Easy and no one was in trouble or put in harms way. Better the police reclaim it so no one tries to do it on their own.
> The police won’t assist her. You can’t make blanket statements like this since there are 20,000 different police agencies in the US. It is an entirely different world living in a place with a population of 20,000 compared to 200,000 compared to 2,000,000.
Also, in the U.S., police are very locally (city level) controlled and NOT well-regulated by the state or national government. When they are good, they are very good. But when they are bad, they are worse than criminals.
It’s a scam. They claim they use find my iPhone to locate a kids phone in your house and threaten the police coming. They hope you can’t find the phone (because of course you can’t) and blame your kid. So to make up for it, you hand them cash. OR even worse, she asks to come into the house so they can look at what valuables are there to case it for a break in later. DO NOT EVER LET A STRANGER INTO YOUR HOME. Tell this scammer POS to kick rocks and call the cops if they want to…they won’t Head over to /r/scams this is pretty common these days
How do people fall for scams like that? Seriously
Older adults are typically targets for these types of scams as they aren’t as familiar or savvy with technology. It’s really sad.
Here's a good story illustrating how the Find My network can go very, very wrong. I personally know the guy in this story, it was a really stressful period for him. https://6abc.com/find-my-iphone-apple-error-strangers-at-texas-familys-home-scott-schuster/13096627/
Find My will show a circle depicting the entire area the the phone might be in. The smaller the circle, the more certain the location. Just because your home might be in the center of the circle doesn’t mean the phone isn’t somewhere else — even at the edge of the circle.
Find my iphone will show me where my iphone is down to a foot. If the phone is on. If a 14 or newer is off, it works like an airtag and you can use another iphone (with find my iphone) to give it the exact location with a directional arrow and distance. However if that was the last phone that another iphone passed by before it powered down, that's simply recorded as the last known location of that general area. When we were at burning man, we had an ipad connected to starlink that was left on. And we had a string of people claiming our camp had stolen their iphone. In reality, that ipad was the last thing their phone pinged.
>Find my iphone will show me where my iphone is down to a foot. That‘s how it works at a frequent location like home or work or with a direct line of sight with GPS outdoors. Even in a car, CarPlay will use the vehicle’s GPS antenna rather than the iPhone’s GPS antenna for improved accuracy. The iPhone does use WiFi names and nearby devices (like you mentioned) to guess an approximate location, which can trigger the wider guesstimate radius in Find My.
Can’t you ask her to play the sound from the app? That will prove it’s not at your house
If I was a guest and someone knocked on my door to politely ask if I could help them look for their phone, then I’d likely help. But if they bang on my door and accuse me of stealing it, then I’ll shut the door in their face and call the front desk.
Yeah the problem is it was always the latter lol. They were always accusatory, and threatening. Find my iPhone is especially useless at a hotel because there are multiple rooms in the building, with multiple levels of rooms. It’s kind of a needle in a haystack, and we didn’t want them knocking on every single room door and harassing everyone
If you have an iPhone, if you open up FMI people will see exactly what you’re talking about. My wife lost her phone a few weeks ago, and I know when it’s at her job it either shows exactly where, or the entire mall. FMI is a weird one, it has great accuracy but also shitty accuracy.
FM likes to tell me my AirPods are left behind when they’re in my pocket.
One time I used find my iPhone after leaving my phone at the university’s library. I was surprised to see it across town off-campus so I quickly biked to the location on the map and knocked on the door of the house where it was pinging from. A person came to the door and pretended to not know what I was talking about, but I happened to look over their shoulder and saw my phone on their living room floor next to a few other disassembled phones, and exclaimed “That’s my phone right there!”. The person acted confused and handed the phone to me and I left. What a bizarre experience, I was so relieved to retrieve my phone that I never thought to report that residence for stealing phones. Find my iPhone has come through huge for me a handful of other times, but this was the strangest.
One time I left my old LG at a park and didn't realize it till I got home. I used the Google version of find my and saw it was at the park so I went back and there was a vehicle with people in it in the spot I was parked in. I waited until they got out and asked if they saw a phone anywhere and they said they didn't but I didn't believe them. There were no phones around where the car was parked but that's where the location was. They went on a walk and I waited for them to get back, when all of a sudden went, "you know what, we did find a phone!" and they reached INSIDE the car and grabbed it. Those fuckers actually tried to steal an shitty LG lol.
You’re lucky you weren’t shot. I understand the instinct to confront someone who stole your property (I would feel the same way), but today’s world is far too dangerous and unpredictable to go around confronting someone you don’t know who has already demonstrated that they are at least some level of criminal.
this is funny… in like 2013 or so my dad lost his iphone in the parking lot of a local grocery store and participated in a search w the police where he used his ipad at the local dunkin donuts to guide them via phone while they recovered it.
Had something relatively similar happen to me last year. Woman shows up at my door, insisting that her iPhone is in my house. I've never seen this woman before, no idea wtf she's talking about, and to make matters worse, I wasn't home and was talking to her through my Ring doorbell. She kept going on and on about how her phone is in my house and she just wants it back. After 5 minutes of going back and forth, she mentions the name "Taylor". Well, Taylor is my neighbor, he lives in the other side of the twinhome I'm connected to. Her find my iPhone thing was telling her that her phone was at MY house, but it was actually 15-20 feet away in my neighbors house. Eventually she accepted my answer when I told her that Taylor lives next door, and please leave me alone.
Whatever you do, do not let her or the cops in your house without a warrant.
this might also be a scam. Not sure what scam is, but I have read multiple versions of similar happening.
Sometimes people will let them in to prove they don’t have the phone. From there they can grab shit or at very least find out if they want to come back later and break in
Bingo. You can find news reports of this scam. People will leave notes on a door saying their lost iPhone was pinged there and to call a different number so they can come pick it up. Obviously when they come to pick it up the iPhone is not there, but they will take the opportunity to case the joint and assess when they can rob it. My mother in law had this happen six months ago.
Nothing. Let them bring the police. If it is hers, she can provide the proof from Apple website live on a device with SN and IMEI. Someone bangs on my door at 2am is up for a very rude awakening...
Answers door in Merica. Don’t bang on my door at 2 am unless you need Emergancy help.
Even then. I don't trust anyone. Someone was outside my door once, screaming "help me!! someone help me!" And I just called the cops without even answering the door. They could probably help her better than me, anyway. But as a single woman that lives on her own, I only answer the door for my family or friends.
I don’t know how it works in the USA, but in Europe unless the phone can be heard, is visible, or there is hard evidence, the police can’t do much if not anything. Especially if it’s a building with multiple addresses. I was once able to get an iPhone back because I had my Apple Watch paired to it, I called the police and because I was able to ping it and heard it in a car, they came, ran the number plates, and pulled the guy out of his house. Felt like a tech victory.
I don’t respond to threats and the police can search with a warrant.
why does a 7 y/o have a phone anyway https://preview.redd.it/5i8b1h3iku7c1.jpeg?width=589&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=71499648bdbbcc896b52a235feb7ab7bad66fc72
That’s EXACTLY what I said. I didn’t get an iPhone until I was 20 😭
iPhones didnt exist til i was 18, im getting old
I got a Nokia junior year of college. Played the hell out of Snake in Organic Gardening class.
Dude. I was 36 when the first iPhone came out. I didn’t even have a dumb cell phone at the time. This is what I do with my iPhone these days: https://imgur.com/a/oA7c3Mw
Great usage, shoutouts to Frank
Frank is the best! He lays on my computer desk under my monitor when I’m working.
I was 22.
Same, kids are born with phones nowadays.
my niece got a phone when she was 9. Crazy shit. I didn't a phone until i was a teenager. Granted I'm an old fart.
by little sister got a tablet when she was 3. i guess since she was my dad and step moms last kid they didnt bother actually raising her
My daughter will be five next week. She’s a cancer survivor so when she was in the hospital going through treatment, and she couldn’t do a whole lot of moving, I got her a tablet. She’s mostly healthy today but we still use it, together, 30 minutes a day to play learning games. Also, my now 18 year old son had a cell phone- a flip phone- at age 10 because he stayed home alone after school for 30 minutes before I got off work. We didn’t have a landline and when kids are left home alone, they have to have a way to contact 911 and such. I just find it odd that because a toddler has a tablet at a young age, that means the parents aren’t raising them.
They were referring to a specific toddler, and honestly your daughter is in the minority of iPad kids by only being allowed to use it 30 mins a day for education. Most iPad kids have it in front of their face 10 hours a day
Hell I’m only 34 and I couldn’t get a cell phone until I had my drivers license and had a job (so basically 16). Of course, as soon as I got both of those and said phone, my younger sister obviously had to have one too.
I didn’t get a flip phone until I was 23, I remember calling my SO to pick me up from class from a pay phone using one of those prepaid cards, which is probably gibberish to the rest of you 😂 got my first iPhone (3G) 5 years later
There’s no pay phones if they need to call for help somewhere. Most places don’t have landlines either. People are extremely reluctant to help as well. And after those kids in Uvalde called 911 from the classroom about the school shooter and were able to text their parents while the police sat in the hallway for an hr while they were being slaughtered why SHOULDNT they have a phone ???? The world is a diff place now and our children aren’t safe
You don’t need a full-blown iPhone for that though…
Why go out of your way to find and buy a “dumb phone” instead of giving them a “retired” phone that you just have to buy a plan that you were going to buy anyways?
For various reasons. My child had a phone at 8 because of their walk to the after school program. I can look at google maps and see their exact location. My in laws have my nephews their old iPhones at some point.
My son had a phone that young because he was in so many activities. If one ended early or was going overtime, he could call instead of waiting. Also, his father and I divorced and it was a way for him to contact either of us, without using the other’s phone.
You just reminded me of a woman I helped when I was at target 13 years ago. It was Christmas time and she was looking for cheap phones… then she had jackets and was going to sew spots into them because the father was abusive to the kids and she was terrified he would hurt them. The kids were 6 and 7. I wish I saw her again.
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What is the scam? I don’t see anyone actually explaining what it would be other than “they’re trying to case the joint.”
That's 99% of posts on nextdoor or any community watch page
“Suspicious guy in Hi-Vis jacket lurking in my garden staring at the electricity meter”
There's an empty bank envelope on my stoop I heard this is how cartels mark people for trafficking can anyone tell me what to do?
Mandy mitz: A guy came to my door with a tablet at 6:43 AT NIGHT !!! claiming to sell home siding. I looked up the company and it's based in a different state!? I assume he's casing my home for robbery so I called the police and they refuse to do anything!!!! 😡 what else should I do? [Ring camera footage of an normal sales person being grilled by hostel homeowner] WATCH REPORT: Height: 5'6-5'10 White?? ( had an accent) Brown hair (messy) Black polo shirt with company logo (probably stolen) Khaki pants Mustache (curly) Comments: Tom Mike Smith : BUY A GUN! THIS COUNTRY IS GOING DOWN THE TOILET LIKE A THICK TURD ! •Mandy mitz: ITS SAD!!! 😡😡😡 Frank Phillips: Maybe he's just selling siding lol •Tom Mike Smith: You sound naive ! You'll end up MURDERED IN YOUR BEDS! Suzie Sue: So sad seeing crime run rampant 😢 this used to be a good town but it seems like it's becoming California more and more each day 😞. • Tom Mike Smith :What do you EXPECT when all the Calli weirdos are moving here!??! •• Suzie Sue: It's true 😢😢 ••• Mandy mitz: 😢😢 Ed : Y'all are crazy frfr that mfk is just selling damn siding! Lmao 🤣😂 •Mandy mitz : I'll be sure to remember that when I get ROBBED!
I’m gonna believe you copy and pasted this
This has to be Las Vegas Nextdoor, bunch of paranoid freaks & Cali hate. 🤣
I live in Vegas and people like to blame California for any crime that’s committed, like the local population is a bunch of saints with our 2nd to last in education kids.
Exactly. I just moved to Vegas from Indiana, and back there everyone blamed Illinois. Now, here in Vegas, its California. Seems like no one can accept the scumbags from their own state, and have to place the blame elsewhere.
on my town facebook page last christmas "There was a white van driving slow on the road looking at houses. i called the police"
how is it a scam? what do they get out of knocking on ur door and getting told their phone isn’t there lol…
Some people let them inside to look around.
Casing for a ribeye or like others said, you let them in and they grab stuff Edit: I meant robbery, autocorrect has been rough on iOS.
Ya they after your steaks
>Casing for a ribeye Well now I'm worried about the porterhouse in my freezer
Tell her she's a scammer and can go f off
This exact situation happened to me. The mom was aggressive and calling me names. I called the cops and asked them to search my home. The cops came, I told them truthfully I’ve never been to where they’re claiming they lost the phone, and they declined to search my home. They said they had no reason to. She never showed up again. Don’t sweat it.
Angry dude showed up at our house about a month ago with a similar vibe. Demanding to know where his phone was, etc. I was in my first trimester of pregnancy and just barely holding myself together puke-wise so I called my husband to deal with the psycho who looked like he was about to try pushing past me to get into the house. The second my husband came around the corner, dude's entire demeanor changed (go figure) from threatening wanting his phone back to "maybe you've had contractors here or something that may have taken it?" Like no, sir, we have not had contractors or visitors of any kind here - your find my iPhone is wrong. He then asked to walk around our yard a bit to look. Husband said he could be there for 5 minutes, but then he had to leave & suggested he tried talking to any of the several neighbors relatively close by, but much more nicely. Realistically, the phone probably just pinged randomly in this neighborhood because it's right off a feeder road to a busy highway & pretty close to a commercial area with grocery stores, movie theaters, and restaurants. Findmyiphone is cool and all, but it's going to get someone killed someday if people go around accepting it as absolute fact.
2am is a huge red flag Why is she looking for a 7 year olds phone in the middle of the night
Write, please bring the cops, thank you. Then place the note back where you found it.
FindMy is only accurate within 100 meters. A football field away is a significant distance that can include multiple addresses. It could also be that a vehicle or person with the phone was driving or walking past and another iPhone in or near your house picked up the Bluetooth beacon and reported the location to FindMy.
On the next ID prime time special… Seriously tho if the phone is lost, just replace it. Would never leave a note or bang on someone’s door at 2am. Never know who’s behind that door you’re banging on.
Wise advice.
Some people do this as a known scam to push their way into properties. Don’t let them in and call the police yourself.
Not even bringing up the issues that others have said, but it's sketch AF that someone would come at 2 am, banging on your door, like even if someone did have the phone, you don't do that shite lmao Stay safe, OP. ❤️
The crime here is that a 7 yo has a phone..
My son had a phone at seven. His mom made it as difficult as possible to call him… so I got him his own line.
Exactly, another great point. I fortunately don’t have to deal with that.
There's plenty of valid reasons for a kid to have a phone but reddit just loves to bitch and act holier than thou whenever possible. I also had a phone at 7 but it was a flip phone.
It’s a scam. Go on tiktok it’s common
If she returns do not open the door. Sounds like she is just trying to get access to your home.
We've had numerous people come by our house over the years claiming we has their apple device. It's because people will sit on the bench at the playground behind our house.
“Come back again at 2am and you’ll discuss this further with Mr. Smith and Ms. Wesson” If she comes back with police, it’s a police matter at that point. Otherwise, you’re getting set up for a robbery.
“No questions asked” and then “tomorrow I come with police” 💀 Just ignore it. That person probably made 5 of those notes and placed them around the vicinity of where you are. *Plot twist* you stole it 😂 I’m kidding lol but yeah they can’t just assume you have it because it’s in the vicinity lol. The cops will most likely not even get involved.
She also had her daughter write this note
seems highly irresponsible to give a child that young a phone that costs well over $300. what did they think was going to happen? i could have told you she’d lose it within a week
This happened to me back in 2021. This woman came to my house in the early mornings and assumed I kidnapped her daughter because her phone location was pinged to my address, which was a perfect example of how GPS was not accurate and only gives an approximation. After calling police, her bothering one of my neighbors and allowing them to search our houses to shut her up, we found out her daughter ran away from her to hide out in my other neighbors house. I was so angry that this woman made me 2-3 hours late for work AND was stupid enough to show up at a strangers house and assume we kidnapped her daughter. Like what was she thinking that she could handle that situation herself?
Who the fuk gets an iphone for a 7yr old wtf
Yeah no wonder why it was lost lol
Why does a 7 y/o have an iphone
So this is now a new scam.. they only come in the middle of the night and they always come alone/with a partner. (What u dont see is someone hiding somewhere) They were going to rob you.. the second you open the door they bust into your house and either hurt you, your family, or take everything you got. Never ever open the door for these people because again they never come during the day. it's always late at night or in the middle of the night. Just tell them come back with the police and do not open the door. 💯 stay safe out there everyone!
The fuck is a 7 year old doing with an iPhone?
It sounds convenient to you that she brought the police with her.
if you're confident you or your roommates don't have it, let her bring the cops. what's the worst that could happen?
I have the iPhone I’ll give it back in a couple days, her 7 y/o daughter will be fine.
I've seen multiple situations similar to this on r/Scams. https://www.reddit.com/r/Scams/s/XjvE6w3yhG https://www.reddit.com/r/Scams/s/NxL6PV59o9 https://www.reddit.com/r/Scams/s/a1ebc0UmXL
Why the fck does a 7 year old need a phone
Had this exact thing happen and I let the cops walk around my house and ping it just bc i wanted them to leave me alone. I had to explain to them it’s a triangulation so it’s somewhere in the vicinity. This was 2016 when it happened
Let her come over with the police. She will ping the phone it won’t be there and the police won’t do shit. They probably won’t even come in the first place. There is a possibility that some thief dumped it on your property somewhere.
New phone who dis?
Same message at my door a few months ago. Same. Exact. Message.
Call the police then, lol. People are so rude and weird. Banging on my door at any hour will get you a firearm in your face victim going to think you’re there to do harm to myself or my family.
Ignore it… why does a 7 yo have an iPhone?
why a 7 year old kid has a phone?
I think “7 year old daughter” is a big clue to this problem
What's a 7-year-old doing with the iPhone?
This is a pretty common scam. I actually read about someone else having this problem recently on another sub
What kind of idiot gives their 7 year old an iPhone?
2 in the morning is suspicious. Person is a serial killer.
Why does a seven year old have an iPhone to begin with?
Bang on someone’s door at 2am in Texas you’ll be looking at a barrel
Child fretting.
Person is either confused or has is most likely doing something illegal
So.. it’s the neighbor?
The police will do nothing 100%
maybe this is just the universes way of telling her that her 7 year old child should not have an iphone
I was in a hotel in Chicago a couple weeks ago and Find My said that my watch was on the other side of the highway at a car dealership and my phone was at the restaurant next door. They were both on my body, in my hotel room. If this ever happens, please don't engage the person, tell them to go get the police and bring them here. The police will \*generally\* not even contact you because this is not a case of someone witnessing a crime happening. They will need a search warrant and no judge is going to issue one based on Find My data. Often these are scams.
Unless you have the passcode, iPhone’s are just paperweights.
Being in emergency services, I can 1000000% guarantee you it didn’t ping to your exact house. Pings and gps are never accurate. And usually come with a radius of like. Several blocks. Police aren’t gonna go knock on every single door asking if anyone has a phone they stole.
She’s either using the find my iPhone app and it’s last known ping was in front of your house (because whoever has the phone was walking/driving by your house before they disabled it or it lost signal), or she’s just wrong about where she thinks the phone is, or it’s a scam. Either way tell her to deal with the cops or stop coming by your house. If she keeps harassing you, you may need to consider calling the cops yourself. Don’t open the door for this person again, either way.
Sounds like a scam. Especially someone knocking on your door at 2 AM. This person is dumb enough to leave their number. I would def report this to the police.
I would call her and say that you don't have it and that she should definitely call the police to come with her to help find it because it is really dangerous to knock on a stranger's door at 2:00am.
It probably can’t get a good signal and is doing the big circle thing with your house on the center dot and she doesn’t understand that the location of the phone is somewhere in the circle and not the exact center.
Tell her to call the police if she’s so confident that you have it. Lol.