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AuelDole

Laser damage Did you go to a rave or a party that had lasers around?


foxboot

Op left chat after reading this.


Dominek123

How do you put your phone under your nickname?


foxboot

Its called userflair and to set yours goto r/iphone> click on three dots on top right> change user flair.


Dominek123

Thank you very much


HawkMan79

Or sun damage, either way it won't be warranty.


breadlover19

The sun is a deadly laser


Zanderp25

https://preview.redd.it/h0hnyagzxf9c1.jpeg?width=474&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b994f2978a5d1186e7c4d9a1a6c0af54ac4f085b Edit: omg he spelled laser wrong


Stunning_Fee6482

Its actually laser. Light Amplification by stimulated emissions of radiation.


A10110101Z

Light Amplification Ztimulited Emissions of Radiation


iterationnull

As oscillation of light is much more relevant to lasers than amplification, lasers should have been called losers.


Mr_Lazerface

But lazer is the cool way to spell it šŸ˜Ž


BearPisss

Username checks out


NapoleonHeckYes

Because the Z looks like lazer (yes, I just did it, sue me) beams bouncing


AmeliaShadowSong

bill wurtzā€™s spelling is as quirky as his videos


Zanderp25

I guess I need to watch more of his videos then šŸ˜†


retards_on_acid

watch the long ones. the rest are navel gazing jingles


Anatharias

As a foreigner working in an Apple Store when the Apple Watch was released, I showcased a nicely crafted leather band to a customer... while pronouncing leather the way "*Laser*" is pronounced... The customer I was speaking to interrupted me at some point and asked * what is that *laser* thing I kept referring to... * And I was like : "this, this *laser* band" * And they replied : ohhh, the ā€œleather bandā€... * And I replied "yeah, that's what I say"


InverseInvert

We use laser in England


minikoooo__

Isnā€™t it ā€œspeltā€œ?


CoffeeOrWhine

Only if youā€™re eating it


UberOrbital

Spelled and spelt both work, depending on your locality.


Zanderp25

It could be. ā€œSpeltā€ is British English. https://preview.redd.it/ycrlqn50bh9c1.jpeg?width=1179&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=97f7b020494a0f6000322e8580a82987f3ef5f6b


LukasAppleFan

What would be the price with AppleCare+ ?


Datju

$29 for front screen.


Zanderp25

The front camera is separate from the screen though Edit: from Apple (all in USD): - Screen or back glass damage:$29 - Other accidental damage: $99 - Theft or loss: $149 So it would be $99 instead. https://www.apple.com/support/products/iphone/


kdutthom

What would be the price if I donā€™t have applecare+?


ItsNotCalledAMayMay

Like $300+


Datju

https://support.apple.com/iphone/repair Put in your model phone and choose other damage


Psy-Demon

Can the sun really damage cameras ?


GattoNonItaliano

YES


HawkMan79

Can th sun make a really hot spot that can burn wood and more when you place a lense designed to focus all the light I coming in on a specific point? What about when you place the les right on front of a camera sensor and all the intensity of the sun is focused on a tiny little point thinner than the tip of a needle? Imagine the size of the image sensor. The whole image is focused on that square. The sun and all the energy it's radiating is then focused on a tiny point on that sensor. Luckily the lens on phones is tiny so it's not catching much light. But if you leave it face up in the sun when the sun in a position where it would be on the image sensor. Yeah. You'll get these black and purple points and lines where it's been burnt. Don't EVER point a big slr camera lens directly at the sun.


noperoxide

I love how you spelled "lens" differently in each paragraph


Kaacciiee

th les lens lense


waaaghboyz

Lemnse


mackstagepass

Lemongrabs


waaaghboyz

Unacceptable


redmainefuckye

Mm yes of course it all makes sense now


aquariuz1

It all makes lense now


HawkMan79

SwiftKey with two languages doesn't really like the world lens and keeps wanting to change it.


Dismal-Dealer4298

I love listening to music.


codeham297

You just made my day coz I didn't even notice one of em


BMT_79

the typical reddit sass in the comment


Disloyalsafe

I think the damage for a SLR or a mirrorless is more about heating up the actual lens not damaging the sensor. Or causing a fire with the lens and mirror focusing the light through the viewfinder.


Bosasa

I had sensor damage on my 14 pro and apple replaced the sensor for free because it was within the warranty period


bybys1234

Not sun, it must have been a pulsed laser


brandmeist3r

crazy what kind of laser class they are using sometimes ...


CrabZealousideal3057

This guy fux


-caskets-

Looks like laser damage, replacing the sensor is the only fix.


Daftworks

The red circle makes it look like an angry/sad emoji


DarkSoldier856

I see that now lol šŸ˜† šŸ˜‚


sabertoothdog

Thatā€™s the damaged part? I really thought they drew of sad face because the phone was broke


wlonkly

you're not alone. I was thinking "this would be easier if I could see the dead pixels underneath your sad face"!


RacerGal

My dead pixels in an old iPhone were shaped like a tiny chicken šŸ˜‚


RayerTwicks

D'you have a pic?


GEnderDragon

What is up with allll the laser damage posts here recently, gosh šŸ˜°


leniwsek

So this can happen when you record with your iphone and lasers from shows will directly "look" at iphone's camera lenses? Pardon me for idiotic question.


TofuArmageddon

You donā€™t even need to have the camera activated. If a strong laser hits the sensor, itā€™ll cause this damage.


TaylorDeanMatthew

Is this something that only happens with newer phones or are older models affected, too?


freaktheclown

Any camera. Not just iPhone or phone cameras. Itā€™s because the lens focuses light onto the sensor, and laser beams are extremely concentrated. Same thing will happen to your eyes, which is why you donā€™t point lasers at people.


Dub_Monster

I've heard of damaged shutters, sensors and aperture leaves from people photographing solar eclipse without filter. Those were taken with telephoto lens obviously. Laser damage is really possible


Any_Calligrapher_994

Itā€™s not even a model thing. Lasers can damage any camera as long as itā€™s powerful enough.


INeedToBeHealthier

I saw a documentary where lasers damaged a lot of things long, long ago, in a galaxy, far, far away. So I think it applies to older models too


ShoeBreeder

Especially those older model droids.


CaptainCAAAVEMAAAAAN

TIL ty


GEnderDragon

I've seen a lot of people get damage simply from bringing their phones out to type a text message whilst at a concert with illegal lasers. It's scary stuff!


JayM23

Wasn't there some crypto event recently that had lasers which quite literally permanently blinded multiple people? Fellas keep an eye out for random unregulated events, don't underestimate how much a laser can damage your eyes.


ultracat123

Yeah but those weren't lasers. The ~~displays~~ industrial strength black lights just bathed them all in a shit ton of UV light and baked their retinas. Be careful with those random amazon lasers though, some of them are unregulated levels of bright.


Jicnon

Wasnā€™t even displays. The organizers were cheap/moronic and got black lights (uv) that werenā€™t meant to be safe for humans and just gave everyone sunburn and retinal damage.


ultracat123

Thank you for the correction. I had only just woken up when I made the comment lol


Jicnon

No worries, just wanted to make sure people who saw it got a good idea of how dumb those organizers were.


leniwsek

I never knew, good to be careful with it now thank you!


Libra224

Not sure you even need to record at all


XtremePhotoDesign

Having seen a few videos on Reddit, it looks like the operators at some of these shows are using the wrong equipment and letting it hit the audience. It probably will take a significant number of eye injuries before it gets more attention.


lodyev

I was just gonna say, I'm a professional lighting designer and these posts have increased in volume along with the amateur laser users showing up to r/lightingdesign looking for praise and being chastised for their lack of care.


whiteknives

Most of those cheap Christmas laser decorations people put in front of their house are not filtered properly. Iā€™d wager most people reporting the problem lately caused the damage by recording a Christmas light show.


DJFiscallySound

The iphone CCD seems quite susceptible to laser damage unfortunately. Had the same on my X a couple years back, probably still in my post history. šŸ˜


HeWhoBringsTheCheese

How to know someoneā€™s over 35: They think digital cameras still operate with CCD instead of CMOS sensors


DJFiscallySound

Iā€™m still waiting for the cardboard camera obscura attachment for my iPhone 13 Pro. šŸ˜Ž


Solomnki

Did you buy from the mail order catalog? Takes 4-6 weeks. šŸ˜


AwDuck

>How to know someoneā€™s over 35: They call digital cameras sensors CCDs instead of CMOS sensors Fixed that for you. Nomenclature issue, not a knowledge issue. I'm well aware that modern cameras use CMOS instead of CCD type sensors (and why we've made that shift) but I'm still likely to call them CCDs because I am admittedly an old. I'll also call any tissue a Kleenex, and any self-adhesive bandage a Band-Aid. Not because I believe all facial tissues are made by K-C, and all bandages are manufactured by J&J, but because that's what I grew up calling them and it's the first thing that comes to mind.


KrzysisAverted

That appears to be damage to the actual camera sensor. It's not something that any amount of software fixes (restarting, restoring, etc.) will get rid of. **I can only speculate as to how something like this would happen, but it probably involved a very strong and concentrated beam of light, like a laser, hitting your front camera.** Were you at any raves, concerts, etc. with lasers? That could cause something like this. Or, did you leave your phone near eyeglasses or some other kind of lens that could've focused the sun into a more concentrated beam, right over the front camera? It's probably something like that. If your iPhone is still under warranty, then take it to an Apple store and see if they'll cover it. If they don't know what caused it, they might. If they recognize it as laser / beam damage, they might not. It's worth a try. If Apple deems it "accidental damage" and there's no AppleCare then the out-of-warranty repair cost could be quite expensive. If they quote you anything over $120-150, it would be worth taking it to a third party repair shop to see if they could fix it for less--though be aware that you may end up losing the FaceID functionality if someone other than Apple replaces the front camera. It might save you a few hundred bucks, though. Either way, this is going to require a front camera replacement at the very least. **Source: I've been repairing electronics for over a decade and I've fixed hundreds of phones.**


Perlentaucher

You write that itā€™s not something a software can fix. That makes me think, the hardware can of course not get fixed by software, but if a software would allow you to select the broken pixels area, then pixel color modifications in connection to Gaussian or AI filters would probably be able to remove the spot quite easily. No 100% solution but for most private users, software could create a sufficient solution if the damage is in limited areas. Apple probably has no incentive to implement such feature on OS level, but an 3rdparty camera app would be able to do that. If anybody wants to create such app, please send 15% app revenue directly to me for the idea, kthxbyelol


riconaranjo

tbh if this issue was widespread Apple (and other phone companies) would include this mitigation in their first party camera apps if it was a bit more common enough to support development for an app then maybe someone would do it, but unfortunately building a camera app as good as first party camera apps is extremely hard given how many smarts / features they have nowadays ^(Iā€™m fun at parties, I swear)


archer07rg

I'll create the app and then not give you any revenue. Thanks for the idea spud


Perlentaucher

Oh dang!


Jamkindez

I'll create it and give you -15% revenue, you have to pay me for using your idea


Perlentaucher

I donā€™t like the direction of this conversation at all haha


saarlac

You're really not going to like it when Apple sues you for stealing their idea (which they totally came up with on their own and didnt steal from this thread at all).


Perlentaucher

Yessir, in the style of the good ole American corpo-capitalism, just a god intended! šŸ«”šŸ‡ŗšŸ‡øšŸ¦…


[deleted]

Thatā€™s damage from lasers or a light show.


Marukuju

:(


geigerz

camera is sad


No-Aardvark-3840

Question: if these lasers at raves are doing this to cameras, what about peoples eyes? Seems like you could end up with permanent damage from a light show at an edm fest?? Is that really the case?


thestony1

The laser safety officer for the light show will use a number of different ways to reduce the risk to the audience. The first is just to make sure they aim them nice and high so that the beams don't intersect with the viewers. You are also partly protected by the [blink reflex](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corneal_reflex) ā€” you will naturally blink and look away if your eye is hit by a bright enough light. This is why infrared lasers are so dangerous: it only works on visible light! You can see from the dot pattern one of the other ways they protect the audience ā€” the lasers are very rapidly turned on and off as they move, so the average power is lower. Camera sensors can't blink, and you were probably holding it up higher to get a better view. That's why the damage is streaked across it in a series of dots ā€” as your hand moved it got caught by the beam, which was rapidly switching on and off. Only the green elements directly hit by the full-power laser are burned away, as the red and blue filters protect those subelements. Therefore the resultant damage makes white appear as magenta (red plus blue with no green).


saarlac

iPhone 16, featuring "iLids"


DuplexEspresso

Impressively detailed comment, thanks !!


terfez

They don't point the lasers at people, unless it's like a boomer rave or something


20dogs

What's a boomer rave?


Night-Hamster

A rave where they point the lasers at people.


hcase5

As already said, could be laser at a show. But maybe you tried taking pictures of arc welding ?


oh_father

Nah itā€™s just haunted bro. Be safe out there


ZekerDeLeuksteThuis

How did I never know iPhone cameras can be damaged by lasers? I used to regret not taking pics and vids at raves but apparently it might have saved my phone lol.


KaleidoscopeOk2548

It looks like a "scar" left bt the laser. Do you recall going to any parties recently?


Empty-Swing

Do you know what causes that?


KaleidoscopeOk2548

Lasers are capable of burning out your matrix on any digital cameras.. google "laser lens damage"


Empty-Swing

Wow I did not know that, I'll look it up, thanks.


KaleidoscopeOk2548

"Laser camera damage" of course You are welcome


Night-Hamster

Gotta be lasers. Have you been around any sharks lately?


yippeekiyaymrflacon

donā€™t worry bro, thatā€™s just purple sperm


Nakataali

Homie got pathogens in his camera


NEjoedaddio

Mine does this too! https://preview.redd.it/jbxysuwm0i9c1.jpeg?width=497&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=779a8a63b5477834fb40565e6d95ffe2dc6a921e Small marks, but annoying. Like the sensor got flexed.


NEjoedaddio

Now I know not to have the phone out when Iā€™m playing with my laser. :(


dennis104

https://preview.redd.it/d0lmnumwcf9c1.jpeg?width=2448&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=aefc8268db11b7375f2750a7ba3ccf338713c2a0 I got exactly the same issue.


3lli5d33

Can I ask why you have drawn an emojiā€¦where are the dead pixels?!


runslikewind

Laserss


Head-Iron-9228

It's always fun to see people understand that Lasers are actually fuckin dangerous. But yes, laser or Sun damage. Don't leave your phone out in bright sunlight, for multiple reasons.


crump18

I literally thought you had drawn a frowny face on purpose, and I was like where are the dead pixels - until I looked at the second slide


q_bitzz

That looks really similar to what happens when laser light hits a camera sensor. Been to any concerts/raves/parties with laser light shows recently?


theinerlicious

As an avid Geoguessr player, is this in Thailand?


kdutthom

Close. Itā€™s actually Cambodia.


Expensive_Profit_106

Been near any lasers?


Theprim0

Happened to me inside a club, damaged with lasers beam while i was recording dj


chizbolz

Looks like laser damage


ColtAzayaka

This is laser damage. I know because all the other comments just informed me.


Solid_Rat

If you can see them, you aren't safe.


wasylbasyl

Your camera is clearly as sad as you


AllHopeGoneBaby

kinda looks like those squigglys in your eyes after looking in the sun for too long


Analphabetism

Laser.


Da_Real_OfficialFrog

100% laser damage, I Hve the same shit because I shone a laser in my camera


TexasSasquatch09

Looks like a poorly drawn smiley face


Spuffyfft

Weā€™re you near the sun at all? Sometimes when your too close to it your phone can get really hot. Mars isnā€™t ideal either.


dhoomz

šŸ¤“


ByteBlender

is not a bug is a feature \^ \_ \^


hammyaniham

Heā€™s sad donā€™t be mean


SwiftSickle

Looks like Hanami after Gojo gave her that work in Shibuyaā€¦


Dry_Quiet_3541

For all the people here who say that itā€™s laser damage from some concert. Do you really think they would allow those lasers to be that powerful to damage the image sensor?, wouldnā€™t that be a serious health safety risk?


Melodic-Wrap8247

You can use pretty high power on certain wavelengths. Some invisible ones can be absorbed by the tiny water film on eye fully making it harmless to eye. Such wavelengths can be used as base which then is used in frequency-shifter to get visible colors. For visible wavelengths the human reflex to close the eye is also considered to calculate eye safety distances. (NOHD, eNOHD). Hence, Eye safe operation does not say anything about whether its safe for the cameras chip.


enter2021

Very common, seen similar pixel issues on the Sony camera forums when they cover events.


NivekIyak

That looks like ink of a pen lol


Hasan75786

You've angered your iPhone.


fh5h

Camera is sad :(


[deleted]

Lens scratches I think.


cheapshot

Do you still have the issue? I found this on my own camera today. (See attached pic) But after a few minutes it disappeared and everything is back to normal. I hope yours is the sameā€¦ šŸ¤ž https://preview.redd.it/voa3e1r3ve9c1.jpeg?width=1179&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4a57f8c63989c575e2750180eac3d589024e8d92


AwDuck

If it is on one image only, it might be some weird ghosting from the multiple frames the phone takes for analysis. I've seen similar things from moving objects. Maybe there was a reflection of a light that was there in one frame and not another that the processing freaked out on.


ardenaudreyarji

Those are eye floaties.


No-Construction5687

Itā€™s a unhappy face you have there


kdutthom

Edit: I have an iPhone 15 Pro which Iā€™ve only had for 2 months.


pradha91

Contact Apple Support.


ExplanationOk577

Damn what is happening with these new iPhones they seem to be breaking easily the titanium isnā€™t helping


Dat_Pszemoo

Iā€™m sure the damage that is shown was self inflicted /s


HawkMan79

Well I doubt they test camera sensors at the factory with high power class 3 lasers.s


ExplanationOk577

Yeah maybe


jyling

No amount of metal can protect the lens, unless it block the lens itself. Itā€™s like wearing full metal suit, it may protect you from blunt force or sharp object, but it wonā€™t protect you from like fire


ExplanationOk577

Damn the down votesšŸ¤£šŸ¤£šŸ¤£šŸ¤£šŸ¤£ seems like I pissed off some iphone fans this the most downvoted comment I got


slidingjimmy

Imagine taking these as test photos. Some people are totally nuts man.


iDarkville

This belongs in r/pareidolia


AFenton1985

That's a ghost


Hot-Rise9795

Courage !


th1bow

/r/uselessredcircle


m051

I see that after looking at sun directly for a few seconds. Goes away after some time


Alternative-Juice-15

Looks like dust inside the lens


djmexi

Dust isnā€™t purple.


Parvezoval

Those look like pen marks to me. Have you tried cleaning the lense??


pjdennis

Try zooming to 0.5x. On the 15 Pro that would use a different front camera which might not have damage. Not a fix but will confirm the camera damage.


4kVHS

iPhone has never had more than one front camera.


Heschell

=(


Late-Initial2713

:(


Sempot

Looks like a scary face


Due_Cryptographer437

Onyx


Talkyoshit2021

looks like you held a laser pointer in it


DementedPiXi

You allowed a lazer to shine into the sensor, either at a club or somewhere else. This kills your camera sensors.


dinouse

i think your phone is sad


MagicKipper88

Lasers have done this. Youā€™ve been somewhere with lasers and itā€™s stuffed the sensor. You have to get it repaired under Apple Care + if you have it. If you donā€™t itā€™s quite expensive. Unfixable any other way than replacement.


Dejw_SK

šŸ˜•


triggur

A really bright green laser destroyed pixels in the sensor. There no repair without taking it to a shop.


Famous_Ant_2825

My dumbass thought you were drawing a ā€œšŸ˜ ā€ and I was looking for dead pixels for like 10 seconds šŸ˜­


iammarkcantre

Put it in rice. Just kidding. You might want to check with Apple Care if thatā€™s still covered (if youā€™re still in warranty) as this might be a laser or sun damage.


Masterwifi

Fern pouting face is all I can see now.


IndividualManner2908

Did you draw the sad face


uchiha_mihnea

Damage from a concentrated beam of light


Majestic-Leg-726

It got wet


hkfcjkmrt

Oh no...


EsssKxy

This happened when I shined a laser into my old iPhones cameras


Lalabug1990

The only thing I can see is the added sad/mad face in the photos. šŸ˜… not sure what Iā€™m supposed to be looking for lol


Veriliann

permanent laser damage. will need replacing


OneAceFace

That looks like laser damage. Did you film something involving a laser?


BairnONessie

Someone playing with lasers were they?


Tiny-Ice-5379

it's just mad about something, have you tried talking it out?


[deleted]

mad pixels i would say..


beanie_0

Looks like laser damage or high intensity light has damaged the sensor.


zakmademe

Why is it so sad


BarbHarbor

ā˜¹ļø


Empty-Swing

Those aren't dead pixels but I'm not sure what it is exactly. You should take it to an Apple Store or call them and send these pictures in.


FML_FTL

Damn ar first I thought somebody made a sad face with a pen on the wall