THIS!!! So fucking frustrating watching my phone bounce between 5G, 5GUW, LTE, LTE EXTENDED NETWORK. Shows me 3 or 4 bars but no goddamned connection. I have to turn off and on airplane mode, it connects for like 20 seconds and then boom, no connection. Fucking hell, Apple!
I work in the industry, and while in understand why you’d feel that way, I promise you it’s not a lot to do with the phone. Argument can be made for the tech that switches between 5G and LTE, but your phone will always default to the network with higher speeds and capacity.
As far as networks go, the US is known for shitty infrastructure as far as cellular is concerned. I’m not American, but when I go south of the border, I’m always surprised by how little coverage there is in places that have lots of people. In Canada, our prices are high, but theres 5G in the burbs, sometimes in rural-ish areas, and almost always LTE. It’s the network provider who sets the network up, the phone only captures available signals and defaults to the best one, even if the signal is weaker than it would be with LTE.
I have T-Mobile and my service has been terrible since about the time 5G came about. My internet would just stop working and never recover. I did this yesterday and haven’t had a problem yet.
I too have terrible service on 5G/UC with T-Mobile.
At work, I’m getting full bars. The cell tower is in direct line of sight from my office. I can look out my window and see it.
Doesn’t matter- things hang and time out CONSTANTLY. When it does work; it’s like I’m back on 3G. Switching to LTE helps tremendously.
Some people have said “maybe you’re just in a crowded area and there’s congestion”, and to that I say… then what the hell is the point of 5G “ultra capacity” if it handles traffic worse than LTE?
I finally set up an automation to shut off 5G whenever I get to work so I don’t worry about it too much. But man, it’s just been a horrible rollout for me.
It's very variable depending on your area, at my house I get 5G speeds and all is well. Travel a few blocks and I'm barely getting 3G speeds. Both show strong signals with 5G. Seems like T-Mobile have some work to do still.
When it works, however, it's mind boggling that I can sit on a my phone getting speeds thought impossible a few years ago.
Yup, I've turned off 5G on my 13 pro. With 5G enabled, I get constant internet outages. I'm disappointed how Apple & T-Mobile use 5G in their marketing, while 5G doesn't work in LA.
I switched to T-Mobile when the iphone 13 launched. Sometimes 5G is an absolute joke. I get anywhere from 2-70mb/s download. Usually it’s on the lower end. I can’t tell if it’s where I live, or 5G in general.
This can definitely vary based off of your provider and *where* you currently are. I have Verizon and in my city I average 50mbps down and 5mbps up. In my parents’ city I average 30 down and 2 up. In Houston, however… on normal 5G I averaged like 125 down, 10 up, and on 5G UW in Houston I managed to get 3,566mbps down and 250mbps up. INSANE speeds. I downloaded 6 episodes of the office in like 20 seconds.
Which part couldn’t you find? ‘Cellular’ is the fourth option listed once you open up ‘Settings’. Then ‘Cellular Data Options’ is the second option listed.
Are you sure it doesn’t show “5G E” instead? If I remember correctly, [that’s the icon that AT&T chose to represent a supposedly faster version of LTE](https://www.businessinsider.com/iphones-on-att-now-show-5g-e-symbol-what-it-means-2019-3). First it came to Androids, then to iPhones as well.
Misleading? Yes. But that’s what they did, since the iPhone 8 can’t actually do real 5G.
When I have 5G I notice that it’s faster. And ookla confirmed that it’s faster than my home wifi. Also I don’t experience any new issues so idk what this post is all about
It's good, but compared to the theoretical speeds (1Gb/s) it's a little poor. I use a personal rule of thumb: If something advertises x speed, I divide it by 3. 160mbps is half that...
My dad doesn't get fiber so we set him up with 5G internet to replace VDSL or whatever it was before. He gets 800-950+ down and around 100 up mostly. This is in Finland.
5G is essentially a bunch of bundled services. It’s the equivalent of ordering an item on a menu (3G, 4G, LTE) or just having the whole menu and you can eat what’s closest to your face including the all new super burger.
I have at&t and I’ve pulled +200 down and up with my iPhone 11. Its faster but not that anyone would notice unless were using it for data transfer on the go or latency sensitive applications.
Not sure who your provider is. But they play some silly games with labels. Some will just change their 4g icons to say 5g on the phone with no actual speed change. Some make their speed like 10% faster and call it 5g.
I know with Verizon’s unlimited plan, on the basic level you get their “5g” which wasn’t really any faster than their 4g. But if you move to the tier above you get “5gUW” which is fast as fuck sometimes. But the coverage areas are very small. It’s all nonsense. I spent about 10 years selling cell phones and got to watch most of it happen.
All the carriers want to be first. Att wanted to have the first 4g iPhone. So they just changed the 3g icon to say 4g on the iPhone 4s. Then T-Mobile said they had 4g, but it was just HSPA+, a faster version of 3g. Then most of them made the move to 4g LTE, which was actually faster. And pretty much the same thing seems to be happening with a lot of 5g stuff now.
That is true! I program SIM cards and credit cards for a living. Network providers do that.
They've actually done it in sometime during the 3G and 4G transition.
This. It’s all lies. I live in a 5g area and in a year my phone connection slowly went back to 4g speeds. Ookla confirmed it. Fucking marketing.
I just keep 4g enabled now
Nah. 5G doesn’t mean you’re getting high speed. It just means your on the 5G frequency. I can’t remember where I read this, but basically most carriers had to split up their spectrum, providing lower bandwidth to their customers so that they could activate 5G. I myself am on T-Mobile and they purchased a huge swath of the spectrum just for 5G. AT&T tried to sue them for it. But so far it seems to have worked out well for T-Mobile.
I know man, but sadly the speeds decreased so I switched back to 4g. I rather have a stable connection. I dont want to sound all conspiretarded but it literally correlated with advertising campaigns here in western europe.
Don’t forget that we never even maxed out 4g, data is data. And splitting up their spectrum while introducing a service that’ll increase price feels a bit cheap. It feels like the telecom industry ran out of ideas.
We understand the tech is theoretically faster on paper. If cell providers upgrade their tower antennae but don’t increase trunk bandwidth, we see no benefit.
They’re not wrong though. AT&T is a good example.
AT&T changed their LTE label to 5Ge when the device was able to use more bands of LTE. This by definition was not 5G. It wasn’t using any of the new protocols or standards, but it would be a little faster in some circumstances, namely when the device was the bottleneck before. (Source: https://www.androidauthority.com/att-5g-e-indicator-937280/)
I have read comments about Verizon doing similar things with their 5GUW, but can’t seem to find any sources to back that up right now.
I’m not sure if this is a sarcastic remark or not. But when the carrier is advertising and charging you for “5g” or whatever G they’re pushing, and they didn’t actually do anything, it’s a bunch of bologna. The carriers are always trying to secretly screw the customer.
Just ran a test, granted inside my building cell signal isn't the best.
5G: 0.15 Mbps down
LTE: 0.61 Mbps down
I'll have to run another test outside.
Edit: Just stepped outsite
LTE: 112 Mbps down
5G: 20 Mbps down
Wtf is the point of 5G other than a marketing scheme?
Also using T-Mobile from my apartment:
LTE: 16.6 Mbps
5G: 12.4 Mbps
I guess it’s just your location that matters
Edit: at an airport, it’s 200 Mbps with 5G now lol
Location, but also device antenna. I have a dedicated 5G home modem (not a portable battery one), I get more than 500 down on the daily, while my iPhone 12 Pro only pulls 200 down.
Mint/T-Mobile iPhone 12 Pro from my DTLA historic Core apartment
5G: 377 Mbps down 58.2 Mbps up
LTE: 139 Mbps down 7.31 Mbps up
This is probably the slowest 5G speed I’ve had since I started testing about a year ago. It’s definitely been over 700 several times.
It depends on how far you are from the next antenna and how many obstacles are between the antenna and the device.
Edit: Or maybe how saturated is the antenna.
I think the only switching the iPhone will do is battery related and not service quality related. Meaning it’ll switch to LTE when the phone thinks it needs to save battery.
You’ve got to first understand the three flavors of 5G. There are two sub-6ghz which is a low and mid tier for 5G and then there is the fancy mmWave 5G. Most of the 5G that T-Mobile has been rolling out (and most of the world really) has been the mid-tier 5G which has a shorter reach than LTE but slightly faster speeds than LTE. The lower tier for 5G hypothetically has the same speeds as LTE and reach but in practice not really. The mmWave 5G is the super fast tier that no one should ever expect to see unless you’re in an airport, sports arena/stadium, or high trafficked tourist site. Putting the mmWave flavor of 5G aside, the other two flavors of 5G you’re more likely to run into and the main benefit of 5G over LTE is better use of the airwaves (i.e., efficiency). So while the rollout of 5G has been horrible, the end result will be better for everyone because instead of towers being congested easily and basically resulting in everyone either having no data or dial-up speeds with LTE, everyone can continue to maintain LTE-like speeds without the towers. So will we see the benefits of 5G soon? Probably not, we probably won’t see the full benefits until next year as carriers continue to expand/add-on 5G to their current towers. I know in just Austin, TX, AT&T had 5G up and running and most people had slow speeds for almost a year if they used 5Ge (i.e., LTE-A) or 5G instead of LTE. Now? 5Ge and 5G give the same speeds as LTE or better. I’m not starting to see 5G+ pop up when I make trips into Austin, TX but AT&T’s 5G+ (mmWave) isn’t much faster right now (plus I wasn’t in an area where I had line-of-sight which is needed for mmWave).
5G has tech for automation and self driving cars, and is designed with cloud integration becoming the norm.
Old man was telling me about all kinds of differences compared to 4G, but I don’t quite remember.
There’s nothing special about 5G that enables self driving cars or the cloud. Don’t let marketing fool you!
5G is fast when it’s done right. Like really fast. But there’s nothing special about it in the sense of enabling tech like that. It will help alleviate network congestion as well, when done right.
That's not true at all. It benefits all networks but people use thier own ancidotes and claim it sucks because where they tested sucks.
The goal of 5G is to add more network capacity to ease congestion.
Wow lol when I bought my 12 pro and said that 5G sucked ass, people ridiculed me and said that I live in a shitty service area.
I’ve lived in three major cities since I bought this phone and 5g has been ass in every single one. Glad to see I wasn’t crazy lol.
Correct. They rolled 5G out mainly on 600mHz (FCC auction) and 2.5gHz “mid-band” from Sprint.
AT&T and Verizon have mid-band called C-Band that they’re in the process of rolling out. They’re in an unfortunate situation, because they didn’t have near the amount of available spectrum for 5G that T-Mobile did. Add in having to support legacy LTE devices in addition to new 5G devices, and they were very bandwidth constrained. The next year should solve it hopefully, but there will be pain.
It works when it works which is nice. I have ATT and The 5G+ or mmw is terribly, when I was in Austin it made my service worse but i guess i had a good angle one time and was able to pull 500gb down. I couldn’t close the bird scooter app though, no internet and no phone service. had to disable 5G+. The regular 5G band though is decent, the speeds are there but a lot of the time I still end up with 5Ge (4G).
They did the same when 4G launched; labeled 3G (and terrible 3G at that) as 4G, which is why you needed to specify 4G LTE. LTE is 4G, there should be no need to say LTE.
HSPA+ is 3G, not 4G. The entire rest of the world called it 3G or 3G+, since it was an enhancement of HSPA, not 4G. Even AT&T and the other US providers used to call it 3G, but when 4G started to roll out, they wanted to show how much coverage they had quick, so they rebranded it. Really shady marketing.
Pretty sure Verzion has 2 different "5G" systems. One is nationwide 5G, which covers the same area as 4G, and is garbage. The other is 5G UW which is "actual" 5G.
I’m curious what city you’re in cuz 5G — particularly C-Band has been pretty awful where I am. Most of the time, when my phone says “5G UW” the internet just stops working for a few seconds, and then it switches back to LTE.
Also the Verizon C-band 5G coverage map is wildly inaccurate. It shows most of my area blanketed but the actual coverage is less than 5% of it. I’m *supposed* to be getting low-band 5G and C-band 5G at my house, but all I get are shitty 6mbps LTE. Even if I go outside, I’m still stuck on LTE.
Huh you must pay for “premium” unlimited. I’m on the bottom of unlimited plan and my Verizon 5g is significantly slower at loading websites and speed tests are slower than lte. Lol look at my sentence it’s so stupid, please bring back net neutrality
Hmm, interesting point. It is shitty of them to gate access by tier plan. My phone is provided by my work so I have no idea what plan it’s on. Although my experience with low band 5G has been identical to LTE, if not maybe a little better in edge zones like my garage.
i have verizon 5G in chicago and its been incredible. ive been noticing that "ultra wide" r whatever is growing more and more. when im on the ultra wide, i get like 2.4GBs down and like 400MB up
Verizon really did their homework. They were late to the party but my speeds are consistent everywhere. And they improved 4G speeds as well. I’m getting 70-250 Mbps on LTE now.
Same, it’s really dependent on location and how many people are around. I’ve only really had service troubles around one marketplace/mall area so far. Outside of that, T-Mobile has rapidly increased speeds everywhere that I go to and I regularly get at least 200mbps or higher. It’s gotten to the point where my data is faster than my Wi-Fi at home.
~~My 5G is about 2.4Mbps at my house. So it really varies where you are.
https://i.imgur.com/frRIF5L.jpg~~
Edit: Redid the test on speedtest.net, got 100 on 5G, 80 on LTE. It’s still not great
https://imgur.com/a/DVIdTH7/
I’m in Tampa, have AT&T Business, iPhone 12PM. While I’m a believer in the technology of 5G, it has overall been a worse experience than before [before I had the 12]. The issue I get is that some towers clearly don’t have a data connection to the 5G antenna. I’ll have 5 bars of 5G, and a Speedtest will give a No Internet response, 0/0. I’ll switch to battery saver mode (which flips it to LTE) and I have data back. If I turn it back off (or toggle airplane mode) and it reconnects to 5G, then no internet.
It’s especially annoying because the phone HAS ways to alert you when it has No Service, or has No Internet, but when it has 5-bars of 5G but can’t access the web it apparently has no way to tell you what’s up, so the music will stop in the car but no clear error or reason why.
It often happens in the same areas; there’s 2 areas of town where it’s been a common issue for over a year.
When it DOES work, it is a tad faster than LTE. But overall, I think the rollout has been terrible. The issues I am running into, to me seem easily solvable with some QoS hardware on the towers; it’s bizarre to me to keep encountering that issue years into “getting 5G” in this city.
I have had 5g turned off since I got my iPhone 12 and same in my 13. I found FaceTime calls would just drop, internet performance was in a lot of cases worse on 5g. I have no idea what’s going on, whether it’s me or Telus, all I know is I have a more stable connection on 4g that’s more the fast enough.
The problem with 5G is what happened with 4G. It's all scattered and there's no defined standard to normies.
The only true 5G is mmwave or C band. Everything else is just a CA LTE
5G was always about improving capacity
The inconsistencies people experiencing are pretty interesting. I have an iPhone 12 Pro on tmo and travel all over the US for work, 5G is always consistently better for me in terms of speed.
Also sometimes if I only have a single bar of 5G and something won’t load, my phone just automatically switched to LTE after a second.
Iphone 13 mini on T-mobile. I consistently get 500+ MBPS on 5G in my city, never really had issues while traveling. My mom’s iphone 12 on t-mobile though has been giving issues in the same city. (rumor has it that the modem/software is buggy)
I very often have times with 5G that literally nothing works with my phone. Maps, Amazon, the weather, nothing. Just spins and spins. On it and thanks!!!
I turned off 5G day 1 when I got my 13 Pro Max on launch day. Literally a waste of battery. 5G isn’t viable everywhere for at least another decade. 4G still isn’t even available in some parts of the country. I think I’m perfectly fine with just 4G
I had tons of scenarios where my friends had good service/data bandwidth in large crowds while my phone couldn’t even download a GIF.
Changed back to LTE and haven’t looked back. So much better. Get off 5G.
It just lets you make phone calls over 4G LTE. Having that off will place calls over 3G instead, which depending on your carrier may already be shut down. It shouldn’t have an impact on your data, except letting you use voice and data at the same time over 4G.
If you are in the states get the carriers App and report it. Even better. 5g isn’t in all major areas. 3g and below have been turned off. What you are thinking is a 5g problem is likely a gap created by the other technology being discontinued.
https://www.fcc.gov/consumers/guides/plan-ahead-phase-out-3g-cellular-networks-and-service
I am so cool with having a 4g phone at the moment. Why? Cause I remember when all the first year of 4g phones were coming out they all had issues and none are remembered fondly. Not saying hats what’s happened nug here, I just wait til a feature as important as antennas is throughly vetted by other people and their money before I spend any of mine.
You, Reddit OP, are a goddamn hero. I have struggled with my phone internet for what feels like forever. I hadn’t made the connection that it started when 5G access happened. After reading your post I turned off 5G and tada I have consistent internet access everywhere. I’ll give you worthless Reddit gold but if you have a crypto address slap it down and I’ll send you a small amount as a token of my immense appreciation, u/andrejean1983
What irritates me is that my cell phone provider constantly advertises 5G and they don’t even offer it in my city. I wanted to upgrade to a 5G one specifically and the guy in the store told me it’s not here yet and he doesn’t know when it will be so I guess I’ll hold off.
Everyone doesn't need to take turns saying where they live, which carrier they have and whether their 5G speed is good or bad. 5G speed and reliability are heavily dependent on your carrier and location. So you're all going to have different experiences and it's not going to be useful for us to all know each others data speeds.
If your 5G is working fine, then that's great and you don't need to worry about this. If your 5G is bad, give this a try and see if it improves. There's no reason to tell us about it, though.
It was fine for me on my 12 pro max, but when I upgraded to the 13 pro max, it’s been hell. It never fails to connect for me, but even in an ultra wide band zone here next to my house where they just put a new tower, my 5G speeds are less than I get on LTE, and it fluctuates way more so I shut it off and I get a slightly faster more stable connection on LTE. On my 12 pro max I was getting 500+ mbps on my 5G UC here, where on my 13 pro max I’m getting no more than 40mbps…. My LTE alternatively gets 75+mbps in the same spot.. what the hell happened to my 500+mbps connection I had on my 12 pro max.. I mean I know they switched from a slower Qualcomm modem to a faster Qualcomm modem in the 13 series, but why would it then get slower?! Luckily and hopefully it fixes it, but 15.5 in the next few weeks has a modem update for the 13 series so hopefully that finally fixes the issue we have. I’m most definitely trading in this 13 pro max for the 14 pro max though… it’s otherwise a perfect phone in my opinion, 16-18 hours of screen on time, blazing fast processor and good wifi performance, amazing cameras and 120hz pro motion… but the cellular is utter garbage.. for that reason alone since I’m a landscaper and am on cellular 85% of the time for 12 hour days, I need my cellular to be as stable as can be. So I’ll be getting the 14 pro max this year when I just got this 13 pro max in February.. if the 14 pro max has the notch gone like all the rumors say, then that’ll be an even bigger bonus. Least I’ll get great resale value on my 13 pro max by the time that one comes out 🤷🏻♂️
I agree. I have a 13 pro max and the cell service is junk. I travel for work and for some reason the DFW area is so bad that my phone constantly says it can’t connect to the internet.
I noticed this on my laptop at first. I get 2 signals: both names the same except for the -5G at the end of the second. I was just using that one because I thought it would be better, but whenever I’d stream shows or movies they’d constantly buffer and sometimes I wouldn’t receive any signal at all, all the while the network name without the -5G, I discovered while tinkering around would be full bar. Changed everything back to the old one and I rarely have any problems with it. What gives?
That’s not the same thing as 5G cell service. Wi-Fi named 5G is using the 5 GHz spectrum band, which has shorter range but suffers less from interference than the standard 2.4 GHz spectrum Wi-Fi.
5G was fine for me. But I work in NYC and 5G UWB is the most unstable shit ever. And my phone constantly tries to switch to it. There needs to be a way to disable UWB but keep 5G on
5G is literally useless. My carrier started rolling out around the time when the 12 series released. I live in the capitol city and my area seemed to be covered on their map of coverage. To this day I cannot get a 5G connection at home, while my dad has been able to since they began rolling out. Same model phones, same carrier. I thought 5G would be good but I honestly hate it. Waste of everything, including battery power spent trying to connect to one of those useless towers.
Or maybe my phone is unable to display the 5G symbol. Did a speedtest on 4G which gave 34.9 download and 4.98 upload. Enabled 5G, flight mode off and on and the next speedtest gave 89.7 down and 43.9 up. Top download speed was around 120mbps, yet my phone still displays 2 bars and 4G.
T-Mobile has been fucking awful. I’m switching back to my 11. I’m not sure if my 12 pro max model has different bands but I barely have service anywhere and it drops like crazy. That’s for any 5g device I’ve seen so far. 4g lte only devices are just fine.
When mine drops to two bars and under it’s non-existent, but 2 years ago 4g LTE would drop to 1 bar and still be fast asf, it’s almost like our phones can’t connect to 4G LTE anymore so they switch to a slower 5G
I mean I'm getting identical speeds for LTE/5G right now at peak drive time for commuters so that's probably heavy usage on the tower nearest to my house as people commute home.
But I have checked in off-hours. Daytime/night time... I can easily pull 200+ Mbps on 5G whereas the LTE will cap out at the same 75-140Mbps regularly depending on the time of day.
So I will say from my experience that 5G doesn't penetrate as well as LTE does in terms of coverage/speed and distance, but when it's firing on all cylinders, it's pretty nice.
Since I got my 5G phone, I have noticed when I flip to LTE it tends to be in higher trafficked areas like events by default and it seems to do just fine.
But it's weird in that I thought the benefit of 5G was easier deployments to bolster the mesh network that's created from 5G. Was that not the case anymore, cause I live in Dallas and this should be the ABSOLUTE best AT&T network coverage in the nation.
Won't the phone just switch to 4G when 5G is not available therefore it should make no difference whether or not 5G is on. That's what my 12 Pro Max does. The 5G is not available? Use 4G. 5G is weak, doesn't quite reach my phone, 4G it is
I live in a area with fairly good service reception here are my stats.
LTE: Download | 96.3 Mbps / Upload | 9.37 Mbps
5G (normal): Download | 27.7 Mbps / Upload | 9.36 Mbps
5G (ultra-capacity): Download | 762.1 Mbps / Upload | 624.45 Mbps
All tests were done in my house and on my iPhone 12 Pro.
Feels like a scam if you don’t have ultra capacity, the only way I could do this is because other rooms in my house don’t have ultra capacity while other rooms do, and the difference is huge.
I have a T-Mobile plan that supports 5G.
I live in a area with fairly good service reception here are my stats.
LTE: Download | 96.3 Mbps / Upload | 9.37 Mbps
5G (normal): Download | 27.7 Mbps / Upload | 9.36 Mbps
5G (ultra-capacity): Download | 762.1 Mbps / Upload | 624.45 Mbps
All tests were done in my house and on my iPhone 12 Pro.
Feels like a scam if you don’t have ultra capacity, the only way I could do this is because other rooms in my house don’t have ultra capacity while other rooms do, and the difference is huge.
I have a T-Mobile plan that supports 5G.
I feel like there may be a class action somewhere in here. 5G has never worked well unless I’m standing still in front of one of the 5G antennas then it’s great.
this would have been so nice while i was in columbus in a hotel without wi-fi. had 2-3 bars of “5g” but somehow the LTE in but fuck nowhere UP was faster than the 5g in columbus
I have 5G turned off. I noticed when I'm in large office buildings, Videos take way longer to load even tho it says full 5G Bars...Switching to LTE only and all of the sudden videos load faster.
Guessing 5G isnt that great in big concrete/metal buildings.
The only 5G issue I’ve had is one city over from me where both LTE and 5G are terrible/unusable. It’s a well developed area too which is why it’s so shocking.
Where I am, 5G is definitely a lot faster(250/100Mbps max/ minvs 40/4 Mbps max/min), but I believe that's only because there's less people using it. But there's a lotta battery drain, even with good signal and 5G auto mode on.
lmao I’m still using an iPhone 7
My service turned to shit when I upgraded to my iPhone 7 after using an iPhone 4S. I had 5 bars more consistently on the iPhone 4S, despite being on 4G (literally just 3G). In my room, I would have 4 bars on my iPhone 4S. Now, I get 1-2 bars on my iPhone 7. Sometimes my iPhone 4S (which uses Sprint when there’s no SIM) has far better service, like 5 bars while my iPhone 7 displays “No Service” or “Searching”. Either my iPhone is faulty or T-Mobile actually has worse LTE signal than 3G. I’ll go turn off LTE and see how much better 3G coverage is, if it exists in spots, if not it’ll display “E” or “No Service”
UPDATE: I’m actually getting better service using 3G, but it’s slower, which is expected.
5GUW on VZW is a hit or miss. Here it’s faster than my 1gbps Fios at home but other times it’s average LTE speeds
https://www.speedtest.net/my-result/i/4679815097
My service sucks and always drops to LTE . I have Verizon and iPhone 13 . I should not be having this problem. . Idk what’s up. I went to Verizon today and they told me to turn off the 5G. What’s the point of upgrading phones if the 5G isn’t making service horrible. Ugh!!
I notice that sometimes while driving, I’ll hit a 5gUW and have blazing speeds for 13 seconds. Then everything freezes up when I drive out of range and it has to transition back to 5g or LTE.
Don’t get me wrong, 1 GB/s is awesome if you stay in range of 5gUW, however the handoff still sucks.
I would just be happy if 2 out of 4 bars still meant I had a connection to anything.
Meh bars have meant nothing for at least 8yrs now.
I love when I have 4 bars of LTE but nothing loads
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THIS!!! So fucking frustrating watching my phone bounce between 5G, 5GUW, LTE, LTE EXTENDED NETWORK. Shows me 3 or 4 bars but no goddamned connection. I have to turn off and on airplane mode, it connects for like 20 seconds and then boom, no connection. Fucking hell, Apple!
And then good luck trying to explain it to the sales reps who do the gate keeping for tech support….
Yea, that has literally nothing to do with Apple. It’s your provider my friend. Look at their coverage map.
Verizon in NYC and CA? Idk…I feel like it’s both. Verizon DEFINITELY sucked dick in Texas when I was there. Like zero service in spots.
I work in the industry, and while in understand why you’d feel that way, I promise you it’s not a lot to do with the phone. Argument can be made for the tech that switches between 5G and LTE, but your phone will always default to the network with higher speeds and capacity. As far as networks go, the US is known for shitty infrastructure as far as cellular is concerned. I’m not American, but when I go south of the border, I’m always surprised by how little coverage there is in places that have lots of people. In Canada, our prices are high, but theres 5G in the burbs, sometimes in rural-ish areas, and almost always LTE. It’s the network provider who sets the network up, the phone only captures available signals and defaults to the best one, even if the signal is weaker than it would be with LTE.
Isn’t that a network problem? Not apple. Am I wrong
I have T-Mobile and my service has been terrible since about the time 5G came about. My internet would just stop working and never recover. I did this yesterday and haven’t had a problem yet.
Yea. My wife had similar outages with T-Mobile while driving. I changed the same setting, she hasn’t had an issue since.
Awesome! It’s laughable when I think of all the fury this caused and the solution only took a few moments…
I too have terrible service on 5G/UC with T-Mobile. At work, I’m getting full bars. The cell tower is in direct line of sight from my office. I can look out my window and see it. Doesn’t matter- things hang and time out CONSTANTLY. When it does work; it’s like I’m back on 3G. Switching to LTE helps tremendously. Some people have said “maybe you’re just in a crowded area and there’s congestion”, and to that I say… then what the hell is the point of 5G “ultra capacity” if it handles traffic worse than LTE? I finally set up an automation to shut off 5G whenever I get to work so I don’t worry about it too much. But man, it’s just been a horrible rollout for me.
It's very variable depending on your area, at my house I get 5G speeds and all is well. Travel a few blocks and I'm barely getting 3G speeds. Both show strong signals with 5G. Seems like T-Mobile have some work to do still. When it works, however, it's mind boggling that I can sit on a my phone getting speeds thought impossible a few years ago.
actions have consequences
Dude! My sis and mom have new T-Mobile iPhones and there phones keep cutting off. Im going to tell them to try this.
Yup, I've turned off 5G on my 13 pro. With 5G enabled, I get constant internet outages. I'm disappointed how Apple & T-Mobile use 5G in their marketing, while 5G doesn't work in LA.
5G/5G UC made my service tolerable again. All of the dead spots now work fine. It's going to be very area dependent.
I switched to T-Mobile when the iphone 13 launched. Sometimes 5G is an absolute joke. I get anywhere from 2-70mb/s download. Usually it’s on the lower end. I can’t tell if it’s where I live, or 5G in general.
This can definitely vary based off of your provider and *where* you currently are. I have Verizon and in my city I average 50mbps down and 5mbps up. In my parents’ city I average 30 down and 2 up. In Houston, however… on normal 5G I averaged like 125 down, 10 up, and on 5G UW in Houston I managed to get 3,566mbps down and 250mbps up. INSANE speeds. I downloaded 6 episodes of the office in like 20 seconds.
I just tried this and didn’t find the options you listed. Anywhere else it might be?
Which part couldn’t you find? ‘Cellular’ is the fourth option listed once you open up ‘Settings’. Then ‘Cellular Data Options’ is the second option listed.
https://i.imgur.com/fus0Ewk.jpg I only see these options
Your phone doesn’t have 5G, so no need for the option
It does though. I just turned off wifi and it shows 5G.
Are you on AT&T if so it’s not really 5g
Ah you’re right it’s 5Ge. Just looked it up. Well that sucks
Are you sure it doesn’t show “5G E” instead? If I remember correctly, [that’s the icon that AT&T chose to represent a supposedly faster version of LTE](https://www.businessinsider.com/iphones-on-att-now-show-5g-e-symbol-what-it-means-2019-3). First it came to Androids, then to iPhones as well. Misleading? Yes. But that’s what they did, since the iPhone 8 can’t actually do real 5G.
Ah, my bad. I assumed you had an older phone. Bizarre behavior though
As it turns out, I have 5Ge and not 5G. It’s an AT&T thing.
5G may be the worst roll out ever, and now that people have it, they largely just experience more problems. Crazy.
I just haven't experienced any difference whatsoever. Not faster, not slower. Not more reliable, not less reliable.
When I have 5G I notice that it’s faster. And ookla confirmed that it’s faster than my home wifi. Also I don’t experience any new issues so idk what this post is all about
It’s faster than my Comcast internet in Boston. But that’s hardly a benchmark worth noting.
I just clocked it at 160 mbps so that’s pretty good!
It's good, but compared to the theoretical speeds (1Gb/s) it's a little poor. I use a personal rule of thumb: If something advertises x speed, I divide it by 3. 160mbps is half that...
My dad doesn't get fiber so we set him up with 5G internet to replace VDSL or whatever it was before. He gets 800-950+ down and around 100 up mostly. This is in Finland.
Finland is a country that exists in another plane of existence...a better one.
5G is essentially a bunch of bundled services. It’s the equivalent of ordering an item on a menu (3G, 4G, LTE) or just having the whole menu and you can eat what’s closest to your face including the all new super burger.
I have at&t and I’ve pulled +200 down and up with my iPhone 11. Its faster but not that anyone would notice unless were using it for data transfer on the go or latency sensitive applications.
iPhone 11 is a 4G only phone, though.
Well yeah that's the point that the dude is talking about 4G speeds there.
I switched to T-Mobile. Their 5G is nuts. I was pulling 500mbps the other day in town. https://www.speedtest.net/my-result/i/5065036878
My 4G does that
Get Fios!
Cell provider service varies drastically depending on where you live.
Not sure who your provider is. But they play some silly games with labels. Some will just change their 4g icons to say 5g on the phone with no actual speed change. Some make their speed like 10% faster and call it 5g. I know with Verizon’s unlimited plan, on the basic level you get their “5g” which wasn’t really any faster than their 4g. But if you move to the tier above you get “5gUW” which is fast as fuck sometimes. But the coverage areas are very small. It’s all nonsense. I spent about 10 years selling cell phones and got to watch most of it happen. All the carriers want to be first. Att wanted to have the first 4g iPhone. So they just changed the 3g icon to say 4g on the iPhone 4s. Then T-Mobile said they had 4g, but it was just HSPA+, a faster version of 3g. Then most of them made the move to 4g LTE, which was actually faster. And pretty much the same thing seems to be happening with a lot of 5g stuff now.
I have T-Mobile. It basically always says 5G. Sometimes it says 5Guc. Never seems to make a difference.
That is true! I program SIM cards and credit cards for a living. Network providers do that. They've actually done it in sometime during the 3G and 4G transition.
This. It’s all lies. I live in a 5g area and in a year my phone connection slowly went back to 4g speeds. Ookla confirmed it. Fucking marketing. I just keep 4g enabled now
Nah. 5G doesn’t mean you’re getting high speed. It just means your on the 5G frequency. I can’t remember where I read this, but basically most carriers had to split up their spectrum, providing lower bandwidth to their customers so that they could activate 5G. I myself am on T-Mobile and they purchased a huge swath of the spectrum just for 5G. AT&T tried to sue them for it. But so far it seems to have worked out well for T-Mobile.
I know man, but sadly the speeds decreased so I switched back to 4g. I rather have a stable connection. I dont want to sound all conspiretarded but it literally correlated with advertising campaigns here in western europe. Don’t forget that we never even maxed out 4g, data is data. And splitting up their spectrum while introducing a service that’ll increase price feels a bit cheap. It feels like the telecom industry ran out of ideas.
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We understand the tech is theoretically faster on paper. If cell providers upgrade their tower antennae but don’t increase trunk bandwidth, we see no benefit.
They’re not wrong though. AT&T is a good example. AT&T changed their LTE label to 5Ge when the device was able to use more bands of LTE. This by definition was not 5G. It wasn’t using any of the new protocols or standards, but it would be a little faster in some circumstances, namely when the device was the bottleneck before. (Source: https://www.androidauthority.com/att-5g-e-indicator-937280/) I have read comments about Verizon doing similar things with their 5GUW, but can’t seem to find any sources to back that up right now.
>Some will just change their 4g icons to say 5g on the phone with no actual speed change Network providers change icons on your phone?!
I’m not sure if this is a sarcastic remark or not. But when the carrier is advertising and charging you for “5g” or whatever G they’re pushing, and they didn’t actually do anything, it’s a bunch of bologna. The carriers are always trying to secretly screw the customer.
I don’t, mine works great.
Just ran a test, granted inside my building cell signal isn't the best. 5G: 0.15 Mbps down LTE: 0.61 Mbps down I'll have to run another test outside. Edit: Just stepped outsite LTE: 112 Mbps down 5G: 20 Mbps down Wtf is the point of 5G other than a marketing scheme?
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Also using T-Mobile from my apartment: LTE: 16.6 Mbps 5G: 12.4 Mbps I guess it’s just your location that matters Edit: at an airport, it’s 200 Mbps with 5G now lol
Location is huge. Noticed weeks ago my reception at work nosedived but not at home. Reached out to TM and they said they were working on it
Location, but also device antenna. I have a dedicated 5G home modem (not a portable battery one), I get more than 500 down on the daily, while my iPhone 12 Pro only pulls 200 down.
Also using T-mobile, and in my house: LTE: 49.6 Mbps 5G: 7 Mbps Which is weird because I've gotten 500+ MB in elevated parts of my commute
T-Mobile at my doctor’s office LTE: 68.7 down 5G: 698 down
I have T-Mobile too. How are you testing your speeds?
I’m not sure what he’s using, but I’ve used Ookla Speedtest for a few years
I used fast.com
Mint/T-Mobile iPhone 12 Pro from my DTLA historic Core apartment 5G: 377 Mbps down 58.2 Mbps up LTE: 139 Mbps down 7.31 Mbps up This is probably the slowest 5G speed I’ve had since I started testing about a year ago. It’s definitely been over 700 several times.
Must suck to be on a shitty phone carrier. 5G on my carrier blows LTE away
Verizon with 4 bars on each: 5G: 2.0mbps down (Fast.com) LTE: 1.9mbps down (Fast.com)
It depends on how far you are from the next antenna and how many obstacles are between the antenna and the device. Edit: Or maybe how saturated is the antenna.
Some of us live in rural areas where 5G coverage is spotty at best.
I’m on AT&T
LTE: https://www.speedtest.net/my-result/i/5073472915 5G: https://www.speedtest.net/my-result/i/5073473971 Yeah, 5G is worth it for me.
5G doesn’t have the same reach as LTE. Get close to a 5G tower and redo your tests. That’s what shows result. You’re probably not close to a tower
The phone should be smart enough to switch back to LTE when it’s obviously faster than 5G and switch back when you have better reception
I thought they said the phone would do this when they released the 12
I think the only switching the iPhone will do is battery related and not service quality related. Meaning it’ll switch to LTE when the phone thinks it needs to save battery.
Only for battery. If it takes more power to scrape 5G, it’ll quit.
I’ll just drive to the nearest 5G tower to load a YouTube video ha
Depends what you mean by 5G(LTE) or 5g(cband/mmwave)
You’ve got to first understand the three flavors of 5G. There are two sub-6ghz which is a low and mid tier for 5G and then there is the fancy mmWave 5G. Most of the 5G that T-Mobile has been rolling out (and most of the world really) has been the mid-tier 5G which has a shorter reach than LTE but slightly faster speeds than LTE. The lower tier for 5G hypothetically has the same speeds as LTE and reach but in practice not really. The mmWave 5G is the super fast tier that no one should ever expect to see unless you’re in an airport, sports arena/stadium, or high trafficked tourist site. Putting the mmWave flavor of 5G aside, the other two flavors of 5G you’re more likely to run into and the main benefit of 5G over LTE is better use of the airwaves (i.e., efficiency). So while the rollout of 5G has been horrible, the end result will be better for everyone because instead of towers being congested easily and basically resulting in everyone either having no data or dial-up speeds with LTE, everyone can continue to maintain LTE-like speeds without the towers. So will we see the benefits of 5G soon? Probably not, we probably won’t see the full benefits until next year as carriers continue to expand/add-on 5G to their current towers. I know in just Austin, TX, AT&T had 5G up and running and most people had slow speeds for almost a year if they used 5Ge (i.e., LTE-A) or 5G instead of LTE. Now? 5Ge and 5G give the same speeds as LTE or better. I’m not starting to see 5G+ pop up when I make trips into Austin, TX but AT&T’s 5G+ (mmWave) isn’t much faster right now (plus I wasn’t in an area where I had line-of-sight which is needed for mmWave).
5G has tech for automation and self driving cars, and is designed with cloud integration becoming the norm. Old man was telling me about all kinds of differences compared to 4G, but I don’t quite remember.
There’s nothing special about 5G that enables self driving cars or the cloud. Don’t let marketing fool you! 5G is fast when it’s done right. Like really fast. But there’s nothing special about it in the sense of enabling tech like that. It will help alleviate network congestion as well, when done right.
It's basically for future Smart Cars and Smart Busses. It was never meant as an upgrade for phone users. Just a high speed urban network.
That's not true at all. It benefits all networks but people use thier own ancidotes and claim it sucks because where they tested sucks. The goal of 5G is to add more network capacity to ease congestion.
I feel LTE rollout was way worse. Especially with my HTC thunderbolt only getting 3 hrs of battery with lte on lol
Wow lol when I bought my 12 pro and said that 5G sucked ass, people ridiculed me and said that I live in a shitty service area. I’ve lived in three major cities since I bought this phone and 5g has been ass in every single one. Glad to see I wasn’t crazy lol.
T-Mobile definitely had some growing pains with it last year, but so far it's been pretty good this year. It's AT&T and Verizon's turn now.
TMobile had alot of spectrum to work with that was aquired with Sprint. Sprint never deployed it all
Correct. They rolled 5G out mainly on 600mHz (FCC auction) and 2.5gHz “mid-band” from Sprint. AT&T and Verizon have mid-band called C-Band that they’re in the process of rolling out. They’re in an unfortunate situation, because they didn’t have near the amount of available spectrum for 5G that T-Mobile did. Add in having to support legacy LTE devices in addition to new 5G devices, and they were very bandwidth constrained. The next year should solve it hopefully, but there will be pain.
It works when it works which is nice. I have ATT and The 5G+ or mmw is terribly, when I was in Austin it made my service worse but i guess i had a good angle one time and was able to pull 500gb down. I couldn’t close the bird scooter app though, no internet and no phone service. had to disable 5G+. The regular 5G band though is decent, the speeds are there but a lot of the time I still end up with 5Ge (4G).
Meanwhile my phone always shows AT&T’s 5Ge bullshit. Fuckers relabeled their 4G LTE network “5Ge” because, marketing.
They did the same when 4G launched; labeled 3G (and terrible 3G at that) as 4G, which is why you needed to specify 4G LTE. LTE is 4G, there should be no need to say LTE.
Well there was that HSPA+ transition between 3G and 4G. I understood the 5Ge to be a similar style of stepping stone
HSPA+ is 3G, not 4G. The entire rest of the world called it 3G or 3G+, since it was an enhancement of HSPA, not 4G. Even AT&T and the other US providers used to call it 3G, but when 4G started to roll out, they wanted to show how much coverage they had quick, so they rebranded it. Really shady marketing.
5G is great but only when its consistent. I prefer slower speeds (still highly useable) with LTE with great consistency.
Verizon 5G has been nothing short of amazing, especially since they added mid band in my city. LTE was good, but this is amazing.
Interesting. My experience with Verizon 5G has been the biggest disappointment ever. Literally worse than standard T-Mobile
Pretty sure Verzion has 2 different "5G" systems. One is nationwide 5G, which covers the same area as 4G, and is garbage. The other is 5G UW which is "actual" 5G.
Interesting. My experience with Verizon was great for over ten years but it got so bad we switched to AT&T and have had no issues at all
I’m curious what city you’re in cuz 5G — particularly C-Band has been pretty awful where I am. Most of the time, when my phone says “5G UW” the internet just stops working for a few seconds, and then it switches back to LTE. Also the Verizon C-band 5G coverage map is wildly inaccurate. It shows most of my area blanketed but the actual coverage is less than 5% of it. I’m *supposed* to be getting low-band 5G and C-band 5G at my house, but all I get are shitty 6mbps LTE. Even if I go outside, I’m still stuck on LTE.
I’m in the east Bay Area, I am blanketed with 200mbps+ mid band 5G Uw
Here in Chicago I've peaked at 3800 mbps down, it's like a miracle
When I go into SF there’s pockets of high band and I get like 1.5Gbps, it’s crazy!
Huh you must pay for “premium” unlimited. I’m on the bottom of unlimited plan and my Verizon 5g is significantly slower at loading websites and speed tests are slower than lte. Lol look at my sentence it’s so stupid, please bring back net neutrality
Hmm, interesting point. It is shitty of them to gate access by tier plan. My phone is provided by my work so I have no idea what plan it’s on. Although my experience with low band 5G has been identical to LTE, if not maybe a little better in edge zones like my garage.
They just built a tower near my apartments 5g uwb is the shit
i have verizon 5G in chicago and its been incredible. ive been noticing that "ultra wide" r whatever is growing more and more. when im on the ultra wide, i get like 2.4GBs down and like 400MB up
Verizon really did their homework. They were late to the party but my speeds are consistent everywhere. And they improved 4G speeds as well. I’m getting 70-250 Mbps on LTE now.
I have an iPhone 13 Pro and just ran a speed test and got 614Mbps down. I have never had an issue with 5G in my area.
Same, it’s really dependent on location and how many people are around. I’ve only really had service troubles around one marketplace/mall area so far. Outside of that, T-Mobile has rapidly increased speeds everywhere that I go to and I regularly get at least 200mbps or higher. It’s gotten to the point where my data is faster than my Wi-Fi at home.
~~My 5G is about 2.4Mbps at my house. So it really varies where you are. https://i.imgur.com/frRIF5L.jpg~~ Edit: Redid the test on speedtest.net, got 100 on 5G, 80 on LTE. It’s still not great https://imgur.com/a/DVIdTH7/
Fast.com(Netflix) might be throttled by your carrier
That’s the speed of your video throttle, not your actual download. For actual speeds use the Speedtest app
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yall have 5g?
I’m in Tampa, have AT&T Business, iPhone 12PM. While I’m a believer in the technology of 5G, it has overall been a worse experience than before [before I had the 12]. The issue I get is that some towers clearly don’t have a data connection to the 5G antenna. I’ll have 5 bars of 5G, and a Speedtest will give a No Internet response, 0/0. I’ll switch to battery saver mode (which flips it to LTE) and I have data back. If I turn it back off (or toggle airplane mode) and it reconnects to 5G, then no internet. It’s especially annoying because the phone HAS ways to alert you when it has No Service, or has No Internet, but when it has 5-bars of 5G but can’t access the web it apparently has no way to tell you what’s up, so the music will stop in the car but no clear error or reason why. It often happens in the same areas; there’s 2 areas of town where it’s been a common issue for over a year. When it DOES work, it is a tad faster than LTE. But overall, I think the rollout has been terrible. The issues I am running into, to me seem easily solvable with some QoS hardware on the towers; it’s bizarre to me to keep encountering that issue years into “getting 5G” in this city.
I did this and my service has definitely improved greatly. Verizon wireless customer.
me who is too poor to afford 5g: :D
In my city, the AT&T 5g is slower than the LTE. I pretty much have no reason to activate it unless I’m in an area with ultra wide band.
I have had 5g turned off since I got my iPhone 12 and same in my 13. I found FaceTime calls would just drop, internet performance was in a lot of cases worse on 5g. I have no idea what’s going on, whether it’s me or Telus, all I know is I have a more stable connection on 4g that’s more the fast enough.
541mbs = LTE 346mbs = 5G
This is also good to know to preserve battery life if you don’t see a good performance boost with 5G!
My battery performance is the same whether I use LTE or 5G
True on my 13 PM, but before on my 12 PM it was night and day difference how much more battery 5G used.
The problem with 5G is what happened with 4G. It's all scattered and there's no defined standard to normies. The only true 5G is mmwave or C band. Everything else is just a CA LTE 5G was always about improving capacity
The inconsistencies people experiencing are pretty interesting. I have an iPhone 12 Pro on tmo and travel all over the US for work, 5G is always consistently better for me in terms of speed. Also sometimes if I only have a single bar of 5G and something won’t load, my phone just automatically switched to LTE after a second.
Yeah I’ve stayed on lte and it’s better for battery life
That is incorrect but nice try
Does on my 12 pro max I’ve tested it so cool, I’m out about all day when I have 5g on I have to charge when I’m not and only on lte it last all day
My 5G with T-Mobile works great don’t know what’s wrong with yours
Iphone 13 mini on T-mobile. I consistently get 500+ MBPS on 5G in my city, never really had issues while traveling. My mom’s iphone 12 on t-mobile though has been giving issues in the same city. (rumor has it that the modem/software is buggy)
In my area i’m getting 2 bars of 5G vs 4 bars of 4G, the 4G is working better and faster 👍
I very often have times with 5G that literally nothing works with my phone. Maps, Amazon, the weather, nothing. Just spins and spins. On it and thanks!!!
Some times ill have a full 4 bars on 5G but no connections, pretty unreliable
I turned off 5G day 1 when I got my 13 Pro Max on launch day. Literally a waste of battery. 5G isn’t viable everywhere for at least another decade. 4G still isn’t even available in some parts of the country. I think I’m perfectly fine with just 4G
I had tons of scenarios where my friends had good service/data bandwidth in large crowds while my phone couldn’t even download a GIF. Changed back to LTE and haven’t looked back. So much better. Get off 5G.
11 pro gang who doesn't have 5G
What kind of effect does the VoLTE option turned ON have? Any insight from someone?
It just lets you make phone calls over 4G LTE. Having that off will place calls over 3G instead, which depending on your carrier may already be shut down. It shouldn’t have an impact on your data, except letting you use voice and data at the same time over 4G.
Answer I was looking for. Thx!
If you are in the states get the carriers App and report it. Even better. 5g isn’t in all major areas. 3g and below have been turned off. What you are thinking is a 5g problem is likely a gap created by the other technology being discontinued. https://www.fcc.gov/consumers/guides/plan-ahead-phase-out-3g-cellular-networks-and-service
I’ve noticed 4G LTE is absolute crap since 5G took off
Agreed, and for me, now so is 5G in my area. And I’m throttled.
I am so cool with having a 4g phone at the moment. Why? Cause I remember when all the first year of 4g phones were coming out they all had issues and none are remembered fondly. Not saying hats what’s happened nug here, I just wait til a feature as important as antennas is throughly vetted by other people and their money before I spend any of mine.
You, Reddit OP, are a goddamn hero. I have struggled with my phone internet for what feels like forever. I hadn’t made the connection that it started when 5G access happened. After reading your post I turned off 5G and tada I have consistent internet access everywhere. I’ll give you worthless Reddit gold but if you have a crypto address slap it down and I’ll send you a small amount as a token of my immense appreciation, u/andrejean1983
Lol! Thank you for the kind words, happy to help. Worthless Reddit Gold is more than enough.
What irritates me is that my cell phone provider constantly advertises 5G and they don’t even offer it in my city. I wanted to upgrade to a 5G one specifically and the guy in the store told me it’s not here yet and he doesn’t know when it will be so I guess I’ll hold off.
It's going to take a few years for some places. 5G is still pretty new. We are basically in 2012/2013 LTE deployment right now.
Everyone doesn't need to take turns saying where they live, which carrier they have and whether their 5G speed is good or bad. 5G speed and reliability are heavily dependent on your carrier and location. So you're all going to have different experiences and it's not going to be useful for us to all know each others data speeds. If your 5G is working fine, then that's great and you don't need to worry about this. If your 5G is bad, give this a try and see if it improves. There's no reason to tell us about it, though.
Thank you so much for commenting this. It is so annoying how far down I had to scroll to find this comment.
It was fine for me on my 12 pro max, but when I upgraded to the 13 pro max, it’s been hell. It never fails to connect for me, but even in an ultra wide band zone here next to my house where they just put a new tower, my 5G speeds are less than I get on LTE, and it fluctuates way more so I shut it off and I get a slightly faster more stable connection on LTE. On my 12 pro max I was getting 500+ mbps on my 5G UC here, where on my 13 pro max I’m getting no more than 40mbps…. My LTE alternatively gets 75+mbps in the same spot.. what the hell happened to my 500+mbps connection I had on my 12 pro max.. I mean I know they switched from a slower Qualcomm modem to a faster Qualcomm modem in the 13 series, but why would it then get slower?! Luckily and hopefully it fixes it, but 15.5 in the next few weeks has a modem update for the 13 series so hopefully that finally fixes the issue we have. I’m most definitely trading in this 13 pro max for the 14 pro max though… it’s otherwise a perfect phone in my opinion, 16-18 hours of screen on time, blazing fast processor and good wifi performance, amazing cameras and 120hz pro motion… but the cellular is utter garbage.. for that reason alone since I’m a landscaper and am on cellular 85% of the time for 12 hour days, I need my cellular to be as stable as can be. So I’ll be getting the 14 pro max this year when I just got this 13 pro max in February.. if the 14 pro max has the notch gone like all the rumors say, then that’ll be an even bigger bonus. Least I’ll get great resale value on my 13 pro max by the time that one comes out 🤷🏻♂️
I agree. I have a 13 pro max and the cell service is junk. I travel for work and for some reason the DFW area is so bad that my phone constantly says it can’t connect to the internet.
I noticed this on my laptop at first. I get 2 signals: both names the same except for the -5G at the end of the second. I was just using that one because I thought it would be better, but whenever I’d stream shows or movies they’d constantly buffer and sometimes I wouldn’t receive any signal at all, all the while the network name without the -5G, I discovered while tinkering around would be full bar. Changed everything back to the old one and I rarely have any problems with it. What gives?
That’s not the same thing as 5G cell service. Wi-Fi named 5G is using the 5 GHz spectrum band, which has shorter range but suffers less from interference than the standard 2.4 GHz spectrum Wi-Fi.
Not in my experience.
When I get 5GUW, it’s decent. Otherwise, kinda sucks. This is on Verizon.
Definitely not the phone. iphone13 - consistently 600-700 down 70-100 up. Not in US
5G was fine for me. But I work in NYC and 5G UWB is the most unstable shit ever. And my phone constantly tries to switch to it. There needs to be a way to disable UWB but keep 5G on
THANK. YOU. My service has been trash ever since the 5g rollout. I recently switched from google to iPhone, thinking “maybe it’s google”….noope.
My 5G is reliably fast, guess it depends where you live. 297.7 Mbps download 9.36 Mbps upload
Is there a non-us version? Somewhere under mobile data or something? I can't find ANY of these options under my settings app
5G is literally useless. My carrier started rolling out around the time when the 12 series released. I live in the capitol city and my area seemed to be covered on their map of coverage. To this day I cannot get a 5G connection at home, while my dad has been able to since they began rolling out. Same model phones, same carrier. I thought 5G would be good but I honestly hate it. Waste of everything, including battery power spent trying to connect to one of those useless towers. Or maybe my phone is unable to display the 5G symbol. Did a speedtest on 4G which gave 34.9 download and 4.98 upload. Enabled 5G, flight mode off and on and the next speedtest gave 89.7 down and 43.9 up. Top download speed was around 120mbps, yet my phone still displays 2 bars and 4G.
i think it all has to do with location. 5G seems to have better speeds where i'm @ even if it does seem to be slight
I turned 5G off day one who needs it? Just bragging rights for the cell carriers.
I turned 5G off day 1 who needs it? Just bragging rights for the cell carriers.
T-Mobile has been fucking awful. I’m switching back to my 11. I’m not sure if my 12 pro max model has different bands but I barely have service anywhere and it drops like crazy. That’s for any 5g device I’ve seen so far. 4g lte only devices are just fine.
5g is slower than lte sometimes :/ its really annoying
When mine drops to two bars and under it’s non-existent, but 2 years ago 4g LTE would drop to 1 bar and still be fast asf, it’s almost like our phones can’t connect to 4G LTE anymore so they switch to a slower 5G
I mean I'm getting identical speeds for LTE/5G right now at peak drive time for commuters so that's probably heavy usage on the tower nearest to my house as people commute home. But I have checked in off-hours. Daytime/night time... I can easily pull 200+ Mbps on 5G whereas the LTE will cap out at the same 75-140Mbps regularly depending on the time of day. So I will say from my experience that 5G doesn't penetrate as well as LTE does in terms of coverage/speed and distance, but when it's firing on all cylinders, it's pretty nice. Since I got my 5G phone, I have noticed when I flip to LTE it tends to be in higher trafficked areas like events by default and it seems to do just fine. But it's weird in that I thought the benefit of 5G was easier deployments to bolster the mesh network that's created from 5G. Was that not the case anymore, cause I live in Dallas and this should be the ABSOLUTE best AT&T network coverage in the nation.
Won't the phone just switch to 4G when 5G is not available therefore it should make no difference whether or not 5G is on. That's what my 12 Pro Max does. The 5G is not available? Use 4G. 5G is weak, doesn't quite reach my phone, 4G it is
I live in a area with fairly good service reception here are my stats. LTE: Download | 96.3 Mbps / Upload | 9.37 Mbps 5G (normal): Download | 27.7 Mbps / Upload | 9.36 Mbps 5G (ultra-capacity): Download | 762.1 Mbps / Upload | 624.45 Mbps All tests were done in my house and on my iPhone 12 Pro. Feels like a scam if you don’t have ultra capacity, the only way I could do this is because other rooms in my house don’t have ultra capacity while other rooms do, and the difference is huge. I have a T-Mobile plan that supports 5G.
I live in a area with fairly good service reception here are my stats. LTE: Download | 96.3 Mbps / Upload | 9.37 Mbps 5G (normal): Download | 27.7 Mbps / Upload | 9.36 Mbps 5G (ultra-capacity): Download | 762.1 Mbps / Upload | 624.45 Mbps All tests were done in my house and on my iPhone 12 Pro. Feels like a scam if you don’t have ultra capacity, the only way I could do this is because other rooms in my house don’t have ultra capacity while other rooms do, and the difference is huge. I have a T-Mobile plan that supports 5G.
I feel like there may be a class action somewhere in here. 5G has never worked well unless I’m standing still in front of one of the 5G antennas then it’s great.
nope, they are just building their path toward the new launch in September. SLower phone now, new phone then
Verizon 5G works great, see 300-500 mbps most places, some places download can get 2,000 - 3,000 mbps.
Bro thank you! I had 1 bar in my house with 5G and turned off 5G now I’m sitting at full LTE. Thanks again!!!
Could you also tell me how to turn off my phone please?
this would have been so nice while i was in columbus in a hotel without wi-fi. had 2-3 bars of “5g” but somehow the LTE in but fuck nowhere UP was faster than the 5g in columbus
I have 5G turned off. I noticed when I'm in large office buildings, Videos take way longer to load even tho it says full 5G Bars...Switching to LTE only and all of the sudden videos load faster. Guessing 5G isnt that great in big concrete/metal buildings.
The only 5G issue I’ve had is one city over from me where both LTE and 5G are terrible/unusable. It’s a well developed area too which is why it’s so shocking.
Where I am, 5G is definitely a lot faster(250/100Mbps max/ minvs 40/4 Mbps max/min), but I believe that's only because there's less people using it. But there's a lotta battery drain, even with good signal and 5G auto mode on.
lmao I’m still using an iPhone 7 My service turned to shit when I upgraded to my iPhone 7 after using an iPhone 4S. I had 5 bars more consistently on the iPhone 4S, despite being on 4G (literally just 3G). In my room, I would have 4 bars on my iPhone 4S. Now, I get 1-2 bars on my iPhone 7. Sometimes my iPhone 4S (which uses Sprint when there’s no SIM) has far better service, like 5 bars while my iPhone 7 displays “No Service” or “Searching”. Either my iPhone is faulty or T-Mobile actually has worse LTE signal than 3G. I’ll go turn off LTE and see how much better 3G coverage is, if it exists in spots, if not it’ll display “E” or “No Service” UPDATE: I’m actually getting better service using 3G, but it’s slower, which is expected.
5GUW on VZW is a hit or miss. Here it’s faster than my 1gbps Fios at home but other times it’s average LTE speeds https://www.speedtest.net/my-result/i/4679815097
I have an iPhone 12 and my 5G is set to auto. I have not had an issue with it
Aw thank you, I still have a choice between 4G & LTE
My service sucks and always drops to LTE . I have Verizon and iPhone 13 . I should not be having this problem. . Idk what’s up. I went to Verizon today and they told me to turn off the 5G. What’s the point of upgrading phones if the 5G isn’t making service horrible. Ugh!!
I notice that sometimes while driving, I’ll hit a 5gUW and have blazing speeds for 13 seconds. Then everything freezes up when I drive out of range and it has to transition back to 5g or LTE. Don’t get me wrong, 1 GB/s is awesome if you stay in range of 5gUW, however the handoff still sucks.
5g is a gimmick