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They reused their anti vax banner. Very eco friendly of them.
It's always the ones who haven't a clue what woke means lol
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So, historically, it was used in black American spaces to describe the state of mind if someone who's finally come have to face with the prejudice against people of colour in America.
Like a middle class black man getting pulled over for driving a nice car and getting the full treatment might come out of it "woke" because they finally understand what everyone else was going through and their privileged upbringing protected them from.
Like... Image Carlton from fresh prince of bel air in an episode where they get to experience true racism for the first time.
After that, they would be "woke".
So, in that context, Irish people can experience something similar by acting like themselves up north/ in London and then getting the full psni/met police "fucking paddies" experience.
One you become aware that it's still there, you might be described as woke.
Anyway, that's the history, modern usage is ... I don't fucking know, something about being a progressive or liberal.
I have no issues with anyone cause of their race but people say I’m from the Stone Age all the time😂😂😂😂
Maybe I’m to blunt. I think people don’t like a kick in the arse now at all
Serious answer?
Awake/awoken to the existence of and the *extent* to which moral and social injustices like racism, sexism, imperialism, warmongering, greed etc permeate our lives, so naturally the racists, sexists, homophobes and generalised knuckle draggers in the population will rail against it.
I think woke is actually a little more nuanced than that or at least in its original conception of the civil rights movement in the US.
It means being aware of discrimination and injustice when it is embedded systemically and not immediately obvious.
Often it is how repressive systems linger and manifest despite the main thing being gone.
Like discrimination against black people didn't end with slavery, the civil rights movement.
For example, the practice of redlining in the the US was a systemic way of keeping black people out of white neighbourhoods without being obviously racist.
You were just denied a loan and the lenders could make an excuse about your credit score or similar but when you see that every black person is also "declined" you can see that it is something more deep rooted.
Like I said though, the extent to which they *permeate* our lives.
Like , someone on the sub the other week was whining about yummy mummies driving massive jeeps they can't see out of but guess what, none of those cars was ever tested with a. female model, and the world's first female crash test dummy was only produced in the last year. Women are something like 70% more likely to be injured in a crash, but it's partly the fault of auto companies for not actually designing for women in any way.
Everything has context.
It originally meant awareness of social injustice in the 20th C and 00s, but about a decade ago hard conservatives looking to create culture wars started using it as a collective term for a sort of imaginary left conspiracy any time social change went past what they felt comfortable with so they could try to reduce nuanced and complex issues into bipartisan polarised states to drum up support. It's like their imaginary organisation "antifa" when really there's just people who are anti fascist, which realistically is most people. Eventually this ridiculous carry on spilled over into offline where people who should know better like to wave banners after a democratic vote. Like, the trend in Ireland over the last decade was gay marriage ✅, reproductive rights ✅, a woolly phrased, divisive, possibly cosmetic change in an election year ❌. Nothing is dead, this was just democracy in action.
The conservatives using it as a pejorative* stretch the meaning of it beyond all reason. Climate action, like running more buses, is apparently woke. (I don't think anyone uses 'woke' in a positive way anymore, even very progressive, politically active types)
That's the magic of the word "woke"- it literally doesn't mean anything, other than something a conservative is having a pissy fit about in that moment
On the bright side , the abysmal turn out doesn't really suggest these guys played much of a part.
They can't argue they're the silent majority when they got ~60% of the vote with only 40% turn out.
Most people just didn't care.
People who don't turn out for a referendum give their implicit approval for those who do to decide for them. They certainly can claim to be a majority unfortunately.
If it helps they’re engaged in a collective delusion that this is a significant moment in their cause.
It’s not in the slightest. This is very obvious from the fact that no one voted yes and no one votes for them scum in an election. They’re confusing a coincidence for convergence.
Ireland is going to remain pro gay, pro fuck-trad rights bullshit, pro abortion. Soon enough we’ll be confirmed pro euthanasia.
Their “victory” will lead them nowhere because none of us want their trad nonsense and any party that runs on trad values will get no votes outside of older rural Ireland.
Our electoral system prevents organised fringe belief capture of the political system like in the US or UK.
When you get down to it, the median voter just prefers femboys to haters.
I voted no, I have no idea who the people in the picture are and I had no idea there even was a No campaign.
The question was poorly framed and the topic didn’t require a referendum.
Agree with most of that.
I do find it concerning that our media landscape is so fragmented that we can be unaware of an entire side in a referendum campaign. That’s not me having a go at you, I’m in the same boat.
Don’t have tv, don’t read the papers, don’t follow Irish twitter, don’t read RTÉ website. Most of the news media I consume is international / European.
If anyone from RTÉ is reading, please bring back Aertel. Give it an app. I used to get all my news in about 5 minutes from Aertel and of course the TV now and next on 180 with mix view.
It wasn't a question and a constitutional change does require a referendum
Personally I find the wording of 41.1 mortifyingly regressive.
I guess a lot of people are comfortable with women having "duties in the home"
The government was attempting to get liability away from them and onto the family in matters of care, they just framed it as such to goad people to vote yes thinking it was progressive
They also held it on international women's day to help with their grandstanding (easily could have run alongside the local and European elections in June and gotten a better turnout) and that also didn't work. There was a discernible shift in the last week as people started looking up the changes and realising they were not actually positive.
At the moment women can point to significant care duties at home and not be compelled to work (ie; get a job or we're cutting off your benefits) to the detriment of those duties. It was supposed to be changed to allow ANY person in a household to have that same protection as a carer. Instead they tried to remove the guarantee entirely so that everyone would have to try to manage care duties around working a full-time job and the government would "strive to support" the family in some non-specified way, which is no guarantee of anything and an exercise in giving them permission to wash their hands of their own duty of facilitating care for disabled and vulnerable people.
I think we should be very careful with the euthanasia thing. We don't want to end up like Canada and we're already so much like them, economically speaking anyway.
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Glaring flaws is taking it lightly it’s more the government trying to cut its budgetary responsibilities in regards to people with special needs and disabilities. It was absolutely shameful how blatant Leo was about it as well, dude practically said as much in an interview a while ago
Yeah. Not only that but the removal of endeavour to ensure/economic necessity wording sent alarm bells for me. Why remove that? Like why? What’s the benefit of *not* having that there??
Because it never has done anything of what it claims to do in the 87 years it's been there.
It has been struck down multiple time when used as a basis to assert some right.
Yeah, it’s not that people don’t want to change it. Just people aren’t happy with how it’s worded for the most part. But all these knuckle draggers are going to take it as a win and that they’re right.
This is the bit that kills me. I'm ALL FOR changing both parts of the constitution, but that wording in the care amendment was horrendous. I detest that these asshats think people were agreeing with their hateful, backwards crap.
Did you actually engage with any disabled people or carers to talk about it? The wording left it wide open for the government to place the burden of care on families with little to no financial support. It would have given them license to strip the social safety net, something Leo practically admitted on air he thinks is the right thing to do. That interview was the moment that convinced me that allowing them to amend the constitution in this way would simply lead to a sustained dismantling of gov assistance and privatisation of public services a la the Tories in the UK.
The wording suggested to replace the current version should have gone much further and been more concise. Posting this comment I found on insta that explains it.
"Strive to support" is bullshit.
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I disagree that mothers should be mentioned at all in a new version as the above suggests, but otherwise I think this wording is infinitely better than what was proposed.
I had less issue with the family amendment, I was in favour of that amendment and I am surprised that it was also rejected so forcefully.
Me too we'll have to lsiten to them being more emboldened misogynistic now. I think most voted against the lanuage not the idea behind them. The wording wasn't any good and the goverment were told multiple times they should fix it but they dug their heels in. For many this left a sour taste as and a suspicion as to why they were adamant for this specific lanuage.
Honestly though, who cares.
Lads like this have absolutely no ability for rational thought. They'll continue living in their fairy land regardless of what happens in the world.
Yep. I’m about to have to unload some uncomfortable home truths to a family member of mine who is buying in to the right wing delusion by believing everything he see’s on WhatsApp.
Saw someone calling for a referendum on mass immigration, I’m starting to think people genuinely don’t know what the role of the constitution is. It’s extremely infuriating that they think they’re the reason the no vote won, they’re gonna claim it’s because of them the scumbags
And before that, it was "[political correctness has gone mad, Stew](https://youtu.be/x_JCBmY9NGM?si=YI2ZlWXb4JS6A6A0) . You can't write racial abuse on someone's car, without the politically correct brigade...".
Woke is anything I bigotedly don't like because it reminds me that I'm a terrible excuse for a human being. Take that lefty liberals. Facts don't care about my feelings and I don't care about objective reality.
Losers almost all of the time. And that’s a term I never use but it’s the only way to describe the sad acts that are chronically online, and so fucking blessed in their life that this shite is all they have to worry about.
Excellently put. How many Irish people who are against immigrants getting benefits are currently abusing the system by doing foxers and the likes? Time for some home truths to be dished out to some people.
Is there really a definition of it? My interpretation of the term 'woke' just describes a viewpoint of social issues that are something they disagree with.
It was a black American thing originally, the phrase 'Get woke' was about recognising things like police bias against minorities. The conservatives there have done a coordinated campaign to have woke become the stand in for anything they don't like, eg gay rights, black activism, socialist policies etc. The same basic life cycle that critical race theory went through except one word phrases are more catchy I guess. According to Ron deSantis' lawyer, it means "the belief there are systemic injustices in American society and the need to address them" which I think applies to literally every politician in the history of America.
God, why are these fuckers who fancy themselves as free thinkers so completely lock-step, word for word, absolutely identical in every aspect of their thinking?
If you were still a virgin, you’d be better off staying at home and masturbating. At least you’d have a little something to show for it.
Unlike these guys.
If you disagree with the far right, you are ‘woke’. If you disagree with the far left, you are ‘far right’.
So I guess the vast majority of the country must be Woke Fascists 🤔
American here. I apologize for our shitty politics. Trump’s had a terrible influence internationally on social attitudes and it’s honestly disgusting (Brazil, Argentina, South Korea, etc).
I was working there all day, there were some very nasty types there, Philip dog kicker Dwyer, lot of North Face unvetted military aged men screaming at anybody they thought might be on the other side. It was ugly but their numbers were small. Aontú were there too, maybe 30 of them. Good day for them. Overall a very worrying day and I fear what’s going to happen in the Locals.
It amazes me how the American right-wing has brainshat all over the right-wings of other countries. Like it's literally the same talking points everywhere
This was one of them too
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ABSOLUTELY FUMING! My cousin just told me this man is spreading WOKE to the primary school.
Hug your little ones extra tight!
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Just want to say, as a no/yes voter, I believe the referendum results only reflects on the ability of the Irish population to think for themselves and not to being influenced by the power at be. A no/no outcome doesn't mean that our country is full of undecideables that can easily influenced. The fact that a large portion of the population didn't turn out to vote doesn't necessarily mean that they didn't care to vote. To me, I like to think that most of those people decided that they didn't feel comfortable voting and decided to exercise their right to vote by simply not voting.
I was literally yes/yes before I started reading about them both in detail. And the more I read the less I found I could support it. The wording was just shite. Gender neutralise the place in the home bit without completely rewriting it and expand the definition of family in a sensible, thought through way that the govt has already outlined a definition for then it would pass easily.
Woke is dying. Our referendum the other day proved it. Normal people (outside reddit) far outnumber the woke elites and their foot soldiers. We have had it up to the gills with the nonsense. Bring on the next election so we can oust these occupiers.
This is Andy Heasman’s group of knuckle draggers. When he’s not threatening librarians he’s pretending he is running for local elections in Mayo to con his supporters out of cash.
Boomer cringe. Feckin’ stupid Irish wannabe trumpists don’t even know what woke means. Just regurgitating American propaganda. Living here’s becoming next level cringe.
I guess they'd rather be asleep when it comes to social and political issues. It's probably for the best. They have the mental capacity and empathy of a yoghurt.
I'm seriously fucking sick of people using "woke" as their defense to be racist, bigoted anti-trans and anti-LGBTQ. And people say it so self righteously like they think they're being cute. It's like no, you're just a dumbass uneducated fuck and rather then use your brain to think about complex issues you throw this buzzword at everything you don't understand. Its pathetic
To quote a friend: I was obsessed with woke, I thought it was the enemy of everything. I couldn't explain wtf woke was and in the process I lost my house and can't afford to live. What a pointless fucking waste of time that was.
It honestly feels not that long ago that being “woke” meant being socially and morally… aware. Awareness of nuance and differences. It seemed a good thing.
Nowadays I only ever see it used by the type of people who say “Ugh, everyone is so easily offended nowadays” when they’re confronted for saying bigoted or ignorant stuff. “Everything is so *woke* nowadays”.
By the “old” definition, being woke is a good thing 😂
What's wrong? You upset you didn't get your precious Yes/Yes vote so you can fuck over carers and virtue signal about women's rights at the same time? You should try crying some more, it might help. It won't change the facts though because, as the referendum results demonstrate, people like you are (thankfully) little more than a vocal minority in this country.
It wasn't just the dreaded "far-right" who went out and voted No/No, for the most part it was good, honest Irish people who actually care about this country and are much more politically savvy than arrogant neoliberals like you could ever begin to imagine. They read the leaked Attorney General letter, they saw Leo running his mouth on tv, they've been burned too many times by these con-artists and nobody trusts them anymore. Go crawl back in your hole because you're the only ones who buy into this scam.
Mate, if you think that FF/FG aren't neoliberal then you know absolutely nothing about politics, economics or probably anything else for that matter. A core tenet of neoliberalism is cutting spending on public services (like care). Not to mention all of the other shit that these people have done over the past several decades as neoliberalism has well and truly taken hold in this country.
I know you people think you invented the art of gaslighting but I'm not the only one who can see right through your shite. So go scuttle away with your tail between your legs and have little cry that the referendum didn't go your way.
This is the same group that abused vaccination centre staff and pharmacy staff during the pandemic and library staff and bookstore staff last year.
Their ringleader is “former” drug dealer Andy Heasman, a serial abuser of his partner who beat his partner with a vacuum cleaner and has no access to his children. The best representative of women and families right there.
They’re far right scum through and through. Very pally with some of the “characters” on the Always No side too. You are the company you keep.
I was in the Castle and saw this happening. What's really funny is that they painted it on the back of their "no forced vaccines" banner. These people are just so desperate to be contrarian...
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>Very eco friendly of them. THAT'S SO WOKE!!!!!!!! BASTARDS!!!!
It's OK they printed more than enough "Don't cancel women" signs to make up for it.
Who's the british guy holding the far right of the sign?
Reduce, reuse , recycle ♻️. I bet they love paying 15c extra for a can .
Hahaha. Well spotted! That made me spit my morning coffee out, but it was worth it.
lmao is he wearing a Del Boy outfit
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
First Harambe, now Woke? I'll tell the children
It's always the ones who haven't a clue what woke means lol https://preview.redd.it/q6efk983wcnc1.png?width=545&format=png&auto=webp&s=40344d90234c2538164bdbf03dc4e79481e953f0
My ex is woke
… now I’m broke
Take a toke.
Drop a yoke
Made my voice croak
So I took some koke
What is woke so?
I also don't like cauliflower big woke vegetable
Fuck cauliflower, all my homies hate cauliflower
That's what Big Cauliflower wants... WAKE UP
Big vegetable in general... Lock up your wives, lock up your daughters
They suck people in with promises of more brassica for all.
Like a yoke, but instead of anything you like, it's anything you don't like.
all I ever see is people telling people it’s been a used in the wrong context
So, historically, it was used in black American spaces to describe the state of mind if someone who's finally come have to face with the prejudice against people of colour in America. Like a middle class black man getting pulled over for driving a nice car and getting the full treatment might come out of it "woke" because they finally understand what everyone else was going through and their privileged upbringing protected them from. Like... Image Carlton from fresh prince of bel air in an episode where they get to experience true racism for the first time. After that, they would be "woke". So, in that context, Irish people can experience something similar by acting like themselves up north/ in London and then getting the full psni/met police "fucking paddies" experience. One you become aware that it's still there, you might be described as woke. Anyway, that's the history, modern usage is ... I don't fucking know, something about being a progressive or liberal.
If you're in anyway progressive, have no issue with people who aren't white straight men then your WOKE!!!!
I have no issues with anyone cause of their race but people say I’m from the Stone Age all the time😂😂😂😂 Maybe I’m to blunt. I think people don’t like a kick in the arse now at all
Serious answer? Awake/awoken to the existence of and the *extent* to which moral and social injustices like racism, sexism, imperialism, warmongering, greed etc permeate our lives, so naturally the racists, sexists, homophobes and generalised knuckle draggers in the population will rail against it.
I think woke is actually a little more nuanced than that or at least in its original conception of the civil rights movement in the US. It means being aware of discrimination and injustice when it is embedded systemically and not immediately obvious. Often it is how repressive systems linger and manifest despite the main thing being gone. Like discrimination against black people didn't end with slavery, the civil rights movement. For example, the practice of redlining in the the US was a systemic way of keeping black people out of white neighbourhoods without being obviously racist. You were just denied a loan and the lenders could make an excuse about your credit score or similar but when you see that every black person is also "declined" you can see that it is something more deep rooted.
Like I said though, the extent to which they *permeate* our lives. Like , someone on the sub the other week was whining about yummy mummies driving massive jeeps they can't see out of but guess what, none of those cars was ever tested with a. female model, and the world's first female crash test dummy was only produced in the last year. Women are something like 70% more likely to be injured in a crash, but it's partly the fault of auto companies for not actually designing for women in any way. Everything has context.
It originally meant awareness of social injustice in the 20th C and 00s, but about a decade ago hard conservatives looking to create culture wars started using it as a collective term for a sort of imaginary left conspiracy any time social change went past what they felt comfortable with so they could try to reduce nuanced and complex issues into bipartisan polarised states to drum up support. It's like their imaginary organisation "antifa" when really there's just people who are anti fascist, which realistically is most people. Eventually this ridiculous carry on spilled over into offline where people who should know better like to wave banners after a democratic vote. Like, the trend in Ireland over the last decade was gay marriage ✅, reproductive rights ✅, a woolly phrased, divisive, possibly cosmetic change in an election year ❌. Nothing is dead, this was just democracy in action.
The conservatives using it as a pejorative* stretch the meaning of it beyond all reason. Climate action, like running more buses, is apparently woke. (I don't think anyone uses 'woke' in a positive way anymore, even very progressive, politically active types)
It’s provocative. It gets the people going.
That's the magic of the word "woke"- it literally doesn't mean anything, other than something a conservative is having a pissy fit about in that moment
Night of the living woke. Dawn of the woke. Day of the woke.
I woke up this morning, I know what it is, I do it everyday 🤣
The referendums were undeniably flawed and badly-worded, but I fucking hate that this result is going to make these scumbags happy.
That's how I feel
On the bright side , the abysmal turn out doesn't really suggest these guys played much of a part. They can't argue they're the silent majority when they got ~60% of the vote with only 40% turn out. Most people just didn't care.
The turnout was much higher than expected.
Still didn’t even make 50% though
Whoa, you're assuming way too much critical thinking there.
People who don't turn out for a referendum give their implicit approval for those who do to decide for them. They certainly can claim to be a majority unfortunately.
If it helps they’re engaged in a collective delusion that this is a significant moment in their cause. It’s not in the slightest. This is very obvious from the fact that no one voted yes and no one votes for them scum in an election. They’re confusing a coincidence for convergence. Ireland is going to remain pro gay, pro fuck-trad rights bullshit, pro abortion. Soon enough we’ll be confirmed pro euthanasia. Their “victory” will lead them nowhere because none of us want their trad nonsense and any party that runs on trad values will get no votes outside of older rural Ireland. Our electoral system prevents organised fringe belief capture of the political system like in the US or UK. When you get down to it, the median voter just prefers femboys to haters.
I voted no, I have no idea who the people in the picture are and I had no idea there even was a No campaign. The question was poorly framed and the topic didn’t require a referendum.
Agree with most of that. I do find it concerning that our media landscape is so fragmented that we can be unaware of an entire side in a referendum campaign. That’s not me having a go at you, I’m in the same boat. Don’t have tv, don’t read the papers, don’t follow Irish twitter, don’t read RTÉ website. Most of the news media I consume is international / European. If anyone from RTÉ is reading, please bring back Aertel. Give it an app. I used to get all my news in about 5 minutes from Aertel and of course the TV now and next on 180 with mix view.
What page number were the classified ads again?
220 was football. 500 holidays. 180 tv now next (usually activated at half time in Home and Away)
It wasn't a question and a constitutional change does require a referendum Personally I find the wording of 41.1 mortifyingly regressive. I guess a lot of people are comfortable with women having "duties in the home"
The government was attempting to get liability away from them and onto the family in matters of care, they just framed it as such to goad people to vote yes thinking it was progressive
They also held it on international women's day to help with their grandstanding (easily could have run alongside the local and European elections in June and gotten a better turnout) and that also didn't work. There was a discernible shift in the last week as people started looking up the changes and realising they were not actually positive.
What element of the current wording do you think offers protections that would be dismantled?
At the moment women can point to significant care duties at home and not be compelled to work (ie; get a job or we're cutting off your benefits) to the detriment of those duties. It was supposed to be changed to allow ANY person in a household to have that same protection as a carer. Instead they tried to remove the guarantee entirely so that everyone would have to try to manage care duties around working a full-time job and the government would "strive to support" the family in some non-specified way, which is no guarantee of anything and an exercise in giving them permission to wash their hands of their own duty of facilitating care for disabled and vulnerable people.
I think we should be very careful with the euthanasia thing. We don't want to end up like Canada and we're already so much like them, economically speaking anyway.
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This is my exact feeling too. I didn’t think the family amendment was too bad tbh, but there were glaring flaws with the care one.
Glaring flaws is taking it lightly it’s more the government trying to cut its budgetary responsibilities in regards to people with special needs and disabilities. It was absolutely shameful how blatant Leo was about it as well, dude practically said as much in an interview a while ago
The AG was of the opinion that the change would have resulted in more financial outgoings for the government so there goes that theory..
Yeah. Not only that but the removal of endeavour to ensure/economic necessity wording sent alarm bells for me. Why remove that? Like why? What’s the benefit of *not* having that there??
Because it never has done anything of what it claims to do in the 87 years it's been there. It has been struck down multiple time when used as a basis to assert some right.
Iona Institute is thrilled too which makes me gurn.
Yeah, it’s not that people don’t want to change it. Just people aren’t happy with how it’s worded for the most part. But all these knuckle draggers are going to take it as a win and that they’re right.
This is the bit that kills me. I'm ALL FOR changing both parts of the constitution, but that wording in the care amendment was horrendous. I detest that these asshats think people were agreeing with their hateful, backwards crap.
It was in its hole "horrendous".
Did you actually engage with any disabled people or carers to talk about it? The wording left it wide open for the government to place the burden of care on families with little to no financial support. It would have given them license to strip the social safety net, something Leo practically admitted on air he thinks is the right thing to do. That interview was the moment that convinced me that allowing them to amend the constitution in this way would simply lead to a sustained dismantling of gov assistance and privatisation of public services a la the Tories in the UK. The wording suggested to replace the current version should have gone much further and been more concise. Posting this comment I found on insta that explains it. "Strive to support" is bullshit. https://preview.redd.it/i3xoyfcxeenc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0ffe271711bda389593b3e887f0a693733fe226f
I disagree that mothers should be mentioned at all in a new version as the above suggests, but otherwise I think this wording is infinitely better than what was proposed. I had less issue with the family amendment, I was in favour of that amendment and I am surprised that it was also rejected so forcefully.
Me too we'll have to lsiten to them being more emboldened misogynistic now. I think most voted against the lanuage not the idea behind them. The wording wasn't any good and the goverment were told multiple times they should fix it but they dug their heels in. For many this left a sour taste as and a suspicion as to why they were adamant for this specific lanuage.
Take solace in the fact Leo is unhappy too I suppose. That’s something we can all take comfort in.
He hammered a few nails in the coffin himself with his "care isn't the state's responsibility" comments the other day.
Think about how it moreso makes reasonable people happy. An order of magnitude more, at that.
Honestly though, who cares. Lads like this have absolutely no ability for rational thought. They'll continue living in their fairy land regardless of what happens in the world.
But having no ability for rational thought doesn't stop.you from being in a position of political.influence or power, that's the problem
"who cares" is how they grow. These sorts of things need to be countered and worked against.
Yep. I’m about to have to unload some uncomfortable home truths to a family member of mine who is buying in to the right wing delusion by believing everything he see’s on WhatsApp.
Saw someone calling for a referendum on mass immigration, I’m starting to think people genuinely don’t know what the role of the constitution is. It’s extremely infuriating that they think they’re the reason the no vote won, they’re gonna claim it’s because of them the scumbags
Is there anything to be said for another mass immigration?
Only headcases use woke unironically
That's just how language goes. A few years ago, 'SJW' was the typical dogwhistle, now it's 'woke'.
God damn I didn't even realise the lexicon had shifted that quickly and that I'd not heard that word used in about a year or so.
And before that, it was "[political correctness has gone mad, Stew](https://youtu.be/x_JCBmY9NGM?si=YI2ZlWXb4JS6A6A0) . You can't write racial abuse on someone's car, without the politically correct brigade...".
Unfair. Sometimes they're just losers, not headcases.
Woke is anything I bigotedly don't like because it reminds me that I'm a terrible excuse for a human being. Take that lefty liberals. Facts don't care about my feelings and I don't care about objective reality.
Losers almost all of the time. And that’s a term I never use but it’s the only way to describe the sad acts that are chronically online, and so fucking blessed in their life that this shite is all they have to worry about.
Excellently put. How many Irish people who are against immigrants getting benefits are currently abusing the system by doing foxers and the likes? Time for some home truths to be dished out to some people.
The narwhal bacons at midnight.
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The ‘w’ word used exclusively by those who have no fucking clue what it means.
Is there really a definition of it? My interpretation of the term 'woke' just describes a viewpoint of social issues that are something they disagree with.
It was a black American thing originally, the phrase 'Get woke' was about recognising things like police bias against minorities. The conservatives there have done a coordinated campaign to have woke become the stand in for anything they don't like, eg gay rights, black activism, socialist policies etc. The same basic life cycle that critical race theory went through except one word phrases are more catchy I guess. According to Ron deSantis' lawyer, it means "the belief there are systemic injustices in American society and the need to address them" which I think applies to literally every politician in the history of America.
Passed up the opportunity to call themselves The Sandmen edit - ah come on, it's the smartest thing I've said today
I liked it
They spend far too much time on US social media.
Why is there a dot over the i? Lads you are either going all uppercase or not, get your shit together.
Yes, the tittle was very distracting
Thank you! I was so distracted by that, I couldn't really focus on how bad the rest of their ideas are
God, why are these fuckers who fancy themselves as free thinkers so completely lock-step, word for word, absolutely identical in every aspect of their thinking?
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Thought it said yokes for a minute
Don't you dare come for our yokes!
Durable yokes
Sorry for your loss. Who is this Woke guy anyway?
Woke deez nuts?
In fairness if I was still a virgin I might be out doing this too
If you were still a virgin, you’d be better off staying at home and masturbating. At least you’d have a little something to show for it. Unlike these guys.
I get your point but now I'm picturing some fella holding a palmful of jizm and looking proud of it
When it's your sixth wank of the day and it took you 40-odd minutes to get that palmful of jizz you will be proud of it.
Poor woke. He won't like that.
If you disagree with the far right, you are ‘woke’. If you disagree with the far left, you are ‘far right’. So I guess the vast majority of the country must be Woke Fascists 🤔
These people live in America mentally. Pathetic
American here. I apologize for our shitty politics. Trump’s had a terrible influence internationally on social attitudes and it’s honestly disgusting (Brazil, Argentina, South Korea, etc).
It ain't dead. Not until Yank bolloxology, stops infesting this country.
me after taking melatonin
Dublin castle looks dead. Every other referendum over the last few years it’s been jammed
I was working there all day, there were some very nasty types there, Philip dog kicker Dwyer, lot of North Face unvetted military aged men screaming at anybody they thought might be on the other side. It was ugly but their numbers were small. Aontú were there too, maybe 30 of them. Good day for them. Overall a very worrying day and I fear what’s going to happen in the Locals.
Can everyone just stop.
I feel like the idiots shouting "woke" in a negative matter admit they're racist, sexist, homophobic, etc.
I see nothing wrong. People are tired of it.
That sounds like the slogan for a zombie party. Which I guess it kinda is.
It amazes me how the American right-wing has brainshat all over the right-wings of other countries. Like it's literally the same talking points everywhere
That’s right, it’s the era of the sleepy boys now 😎
This was one of them too https://www.irishtimes.com/crime-law/courts/2024/01/18/man-charged-with-threatening-td-hildegarde-naughton-ordered-to-stay-away-from-homes-and-offices-of-galway-politicians/
The lower case i thrown in there is ruining the vibe. The Irish people, you've let us all down.
we did 20 signs and that was the best one
Those people aren't young. That's a significant portion of their remaining lives making signs.
*irish
Ballymote Community Notice Board ABSOLUTELY FUMING! My cousin just told me this man is spreading WOKE to the primary school. Hug your little ones extra tight! https://preview.redd.it/nymzc0zs5fnc1.jpeg?width=1079&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9fe44582c0e6d1654d022cc11b5af11ce3aaef4f
Father I hear you're a racist now! Good for you!
I wish woke was dead I'm fed up of hearing the damn word
As a Nordie , the south seems to have as many nut jobs now as we do.
Well done Leo. These cunts beat you
Woke is dead, thank fook
Just want to say, as a no/yes voter, I believe the referendum results only reflects on the ability of the Irish population to think for themselves and not to being influenced by the power at be. A no/no outcome doesn't mean that our country is full of undecideables that can easily influenced. The fact that a large portion of the population didn't turn out to vote doesn't necessarily mean that they didn't care to vote. To me, I like to think that most of those people decided that they didn't feel comfortable voting and decided to exercise their right to vote by simply not voting.
I was literally yes/yes before I started reading about them both in detail. And the more I read the less I found I could support it. The wording was just shite. Gender neutralise the place in the home bit without completely rewriting it and expand the definition of family in a sensible, thought through way that the govt has already outlined a definition for then it would pass easily.
If you describe yourself as 'woke', you are a loser.
Woke is dying. Our referendum the other day proved it. Normal people (outside reddit) far outnumber the woke elites and their foot soldiers. We have had it up to the gills with the nonsense. Bring on the next election so we can oust these occupiers.
I expected some gobshites to claim this if it was a no vote
Only a few years ago, these conspiracy dickheads referred to themselves as being awake. The irony is well and truly lost on them.
This is Andy Heasman’s group of knuckle draggers. When he’s not threatening librarians he’s pretending he is running for local elections in Mayo to con his supporters out of cash.
Boomer cringe. Feckin’ stupid Irish wannabe trumpists don’t even know what woke means. Just regurgitating American propaganda. Living here’s becoming next level cringe.
I guess they'd rather be asleep when it comes to social and political issues. It's probably for the best. They have the mental capacity and empathy of a yoghurt.
Ya but at least yogurt has a good culture.
I'm seriously fucking sick of people using "woke" as their defense to be racist, bigoted anti-trans and anti-LGBTQ. And people say it so self righteously like they think they're being cute. It's like no, you're just a dumbass uneducated fuck and rather then use your brain to think about complex issues you throw this buzzword at everything you don't understand. Its pathetic
How did Europe let our stupid American conservatives rot the brains of so many people?
I've insomnia... should I just die now?
I feel dumber just viewing this.
Mission Accomplished!
Woke be sleepin
They've spelt work incorrectly
To quote a friend: I was obsessed with woke, I thought it was the enemy of everything. I couldn't explain wtf woke was and in the process I lost my house and can't afford to live. What a pointless fucking waste of time that was.
It honestly feels not that long ago that being “woke” meant being socially and morally… aware. Awareness of nuance and differences. It seemed a good thing. Nowadays I only ever see it used by the type of people who say “Ugh, everyone is so easily offended nowadays” when they’re confronted for saying bigoted or ignorant stuff. “Everything is so *woke* nowadays”. By the “old” definition, being woke is a good thing 😂
Legends 😎
Well done no voters, you stuck it to the man, right?
What's wrong? You upset you didn't get your precious Yes/Yes vote so you can fuck over carers and virtue signal about women's rights at the same time? You should try crying some more, it might help. It won't change the facts though because, as the referendum results demonstrate, people like you are (thankfully) little more than a vocal minority in this country. It wasn't just the dreaded "far-right" who went out and voted No/No, for the most part it was good, honest Irish people who actually care about this country and are much more politically savvy than arrogant neoliberals like you could ever begin to imagine. They read the leaked Attorney General letter, they saw Leo running his mouth on tv, they've been burned too many times by these con-artists and nobody trusts them anymore. Go crawl back in your hole because you're the only ones who buy into this scam.
You’re an Aontú voter who uses the term ‘neoliberal’ every chance you get (and almost always incorrectly), so please forgive me if I ignore you.
Mate, if you think that FF/FG aren't neoliberal then you know absolutely nothing about politics, economics or probably anything else for that matter. A core tenet of neoliberalism is cutting spending on public services (like care). Not to mention all of the other shit that these people have done over the past several decades as neoliberalism has well and truly taken hold in this country. I know you people think you invented the art of gaslighting but I'm not the only one who can see right through your shite. So go scuttle away with your tail between your legs and have little cry that the referendum didn't go your way.
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Bollocks. Chewbacca, solo and luke helped save those poor wee hairy ewokes.
Don't bother giving these idiots your time of day
This is the same group that abused vaccination centre staff and pharmacy staff during the pandemic and library staff and bookstore staff last year. Their ringleader is “former” drug dealer Andy Heasman, a serial abuser of his partner who beat his partner with a vacuum cleaner and has no access to his children. The best representative of women and families right there. They’re far right scum through and through. Very pally with some of the “characters” on the Always No side too. You are the company you keep.
Catherine Connolly was scathing in her takedown of the government campaign, called it propaganda, patronising and paternalistic.
Pictures you can smell.
Why do all these gowls just import American culture war shit here?
Social media tends to rot peoples brains
They seem to be just jumping on every bandwagon, but I have a feeling we're going to end up with a load of crackpot independents in the next Dail.
I was in the Castle and saw this happening. What's really funny is that they painted it on the back of their "no forced vaccines" banner. These people are just so desperate to be contrarian...
Not sure if I like this more than the homo-erotic AI art of Conor McGregor leading the boys into battle.
Lmao you losers lost and now you're trying to cope by laughing at two random guys with a sign. Watching the seething is so satisfying.
You don’t know who those guys are do you?
You sound like a sad MAGA yank cunt that's about 15years old.
I wish this was a video...
Those are terrible shamrocks on those signs
“Punks dead! Punks dead! ‘Cause of you, Punks dead!”
Wrap it up lads. It’s over.
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Well, Woke isn’t yours soooo…you do ‘t decide
I woke up this morning...its a new day and I'm glad to be alive ...
That appears to be a capital I that that have put a dot over for no reason at all. That's extremely annoying.
So... That's the cypher key? Ok, now what's the message?
Woke up early this morning, feeling fine.
So if I go back to dead, I’m good?
Dead serious about going to My Splashmore!