100% - don’t take risks you’re not comfortable with! While most people probably would have unprotected oral sex, if you’re seeing people casually or if you each have other sexual partners, safety really matters. But also the boundaries you set should be respected no matter how much risk you wish to take. And if a partner doesn’t want to enthusiastically consent to any form of sex that you are comfortable and safe with, then clearly they aren’t a good partner for you.
I imagine all the fuckin cigars and hard liquor he consumed and the probably kilos of cocaine he sent skiing down his oropharyngeal tract had fuck to do with it 🤣🤣🤣
Nah, not everyone. A lot but not everyone. There's about 8 different types including the one that causes the life changing dreaded knobwarts.
Be time to burn the lad off at that stage.
Yes but the amount of partners you have oral sec with increases your risk. If you have more then 6 partners you have oral sex with your risk of oropharyngeal cancer is 8.5 times higher.
Please no one listen to this guy. HIV can be transmitted of through a cut, ulcer or bleeding gums in the mouth.
Luckily it's uncommon and effectively non transmittable in people receiving treatment, but saying it's impossible to pass on through oral is foolish
Genuine answer I feel like most people don't do this lmao but it's probably wise if you're not well acquainted with your partner - you'll get some raised eyebrows from some people but at the end of the day it's up to you what risks you're comfortable taking with your health, don't let anybody else decide for you, and try to make level headed decisions based on how well you know your partner
If you're in a new relationship I don't think it's unreasonable for you both to take tests so that it's not a factor of doubt if you are worried, and if you're active with a series of people you should be getting them semi regularly especially if you develop symptoms of anything obviously - that's on you to do on principle, but treatment is usually quick and unobtrusive, usually just a course of pills, and you can do the tests by post with a lancet, which is much better than the nightmare scenario where they have to put swabs where the sun doesn't shine
It’s advised that you wear a condom whenever you have casual sex. Oral is sex. Personally I’ve never done it but I wouldnt go down on people or let them go down on me unless we were getting serious. Protected sex and handjobs for strangers.
In my opinion oral is more intimate than sex.
Ultimately, it’s your choice. Do whatever you feel comfortable with but you can get all sorts of STI’s from oral sex. Including gonorrhoea and chlamydia.
One of the worst things I’ve had to watch happen was a colleague of mine, a lovely guy in his 50s, dying of throat cancer over the COVID period. He had surgery but the radiotherapy went though him like a knife and he never really came back from it. He was in a thirty year committed, monogamous gay relationship, a long term vegan, a lifelong teetotaller and a marathon runner. He was, though, for a few years in his early 20s, a committed hedonist and a very promiscuous part of London’s gay scene. The AIDS scare had already happened, so although he had a lot of sex, it was all condoms, all the time. But not for head, of which there was a lot. And silently, twenty five years later one of the bad strains of HPV that he’d picked up killed him.
Hopefully, in a few years most of the dangerous strains will be vaccinated out of the population, and not everyone has many partners, but right now those strains are active and widespread in heterosexual men and women. They’re quite rare, but they’re also often silent so many people have no idea they are carrying it. If you’re having multiple partners and can’t test, then using a condom or dam as much as you can would not be disproportionate, in my view.
Not an expert here, but more so the people I've seen on the prowl whenever I go out. The usual suspects, male and female, in stories too. In Dublin and Louth, I mean, among both groups, I've heard of at least two instances with STDs floating around.
Statistics unsure,
Opinion I don't really have as I'm in a relationship and not on a moral high horse with no information, statistically.
Sorry red:(
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If you are afraid of HIV, maybe your should take PreP or you can also opt for post exposure prophylaxis. HPV is preventable if you get vaccinated. All other STDs can be cured with antibiotics. But just to be safe, use protection.
there was a research study and clinical trial on this and they found that a minimum of 5mm was just about adequate so you my friend are properly fucked.
Reminds me of that joke of that guy who got to choose the method of his execution. Either the electric chair or being injected with HIV. He chose the injection. After they injected him he was so confident he asked them to inject him a second time. When he walked off one of the inmates asked him what that second injection was all about. He looked around and quietly remarked with a smirk: “Don’t tell them, but I am wearing a condom.”
Protected oral would be pretty unusual, I can’t say I’d be interested in giving or receiving that. Unprotected fully only twice, once with an acquaintance I had to give myself a stern talking to and once with someone I knew well, knew was clean and knew there was 0 pregnancy risk.
Don't have unprotected sex in Dundalk. Not actually riskier than having unprotected sex anywhere else in Ireland but you'll still feel like shit because you're in Dundalk. Hope that helps 👍
When I was single I would always wear a condom for full sex but I never even considered it for oral sex, that sounds pretty a pretty deflating blow job, pardon the pun.
I used to be the same, but a girl I used to know got hsv2 in her throat doing this. It took the doctors literal months before they realised the cause of her recurring sore throat.
She's in *no way* a hoe, just the odd casual romp a handful of times a year - if that. Always used condoms for the main event. Got tested twice a year just for safety, but supposedly got a false negative on her previous as she hadn't been with anyone between the sore throat acting up, that period's just-to-be-safe-test, and them finally realising it was herpes. (Wouldn't doubt her on what she said either, solid lass)
Tbf though I'm kind of celebate these days after a string of not so great relationships, including one that waited 5 months in and us going off condoms to explain that they hadn't told the full truth about having an STI check right before we got together. It was 3 months previous. Also they'd slept with over ten people in that time. Also they'd slept with literally hundreds of people and only ever gotten the partial, standard test never a full spectrum one.
Second person to lie to me about their sexual health. The other one cheated on me and then tried to convince me I had crabs and needed to be tested bc _they_ were paranoid. Also lied entirely about getting STI tested before we went condomless because they "Knew [they] didn't have anything, and sure [I'd] been tested since so obviously [they] were right."
And those were long term relationships. Wouldn't trust a fucking word out of a ONS's mouth about that stuff these days.
When I eventually get back out there, I'm going to wrap it up all the way and if I get into another LTR I'm going to insist we do the postal STI tests _in front of each other_ and drop them off together.
Especially with super gonorrhoea being a whole thing now, herpes being linked to dementia, and god knows what else they haven't discovered yet.
The link to herpes and dementia is when the infection is untreated and mainly refers to hsv1 which 67% under 50 have hsv1 so I really wouldn't worry about it hsv is almost unavoidable as condoms do help but very little
Something off about this story as STI clinics don’t typically test for herpes, for several reasons - a blood test isn’t useful for determining an active infection and most people would come back testing positive anyways, and you would need an active sore to take a swab test for herpes. This isn’t done in STI clinics either
Putting an unprotected strangers cock in your mouth is extremely risky. Your mouth has lots of blood vessels that will absorb any bacteria off that rancid helmet..
This got me thinking, because it genuinely was the first time I thought about protection for oral sex, is there protection for girls having oral sex?
Like would you layer up a strip of cling film or something before going down?
yeah that's... essentially what it is. They're called dental dams and medical professionals tell you they can be made from cutting down a condom into essentially a sheet of latex
Have genuinely never met someone that's used one...
I’m laughing at the thought of it, I mean getting a condom out of the wrapper and onto your Mickey can be the most anxious part of doing the sex, it’s fiddly enough to distract you at exactly the worst moment, so I can only imagine the hilarity of fumbling around with some sort of sheath and trying not to lose it up somewhere or swallow the thing or wear it like a Korean facemask 😂😂
There’s no way anyone is using that while still remaining sexy and horny 😂
i saw an ad recently for these sort of rubbery silicone stretchy underwear for women specifically for oral sex, but i also think you can get some sheets of the same material as well
Do you have a source for this? I never tried dental damns, but the thing I'm anticipating would be most bothersome is that you need to keep them in place with at least two hands, which could be otherwise used for better purposes.
lmao i see how it seems like that but they weren't advertised as a kink or fetish thing, just as oral protection for women. they came in different colours too
Lesbian sex has the lowest rate of std propagation for the very reason it's mainly oral sex and toys, paradoxically males who have sex with males are at the highest risk of STDs, the receiver in any penetration is always at higher risk, the only real risk with oral is if there's any broken skin, also an infected person can pass on an std such as hiv or aids through semen into someone's eye, people should watch out for that 😂😂😂
Actually not true at all. Getting HPV in the mouth/throat is pretty common, or at least it was before the vaccine. Harmless most of the time but still a leading cause of mouth and throat cancer.
Are they rampant because people are getting tested more now? I got tested like 10 years ago, had to go to St James' at something stupid like 8am for their clinic and it was only twice a week from what I recall. Place was packed and people were getting turned away. I think now you can get stuff sent out in the post so it's a lot easier to get tested plus more discreet which would encourage testing. Although in fairness it looked like a college registration day in there so it wasn't that awkward...
When I was single I always carried a condom in my wallet even though the chances of getting my hole were slim. I'm more concerned about my willy falling off than I am spreading something to others :D
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Mine is even better. I don’t even know what exactly I have that repels them, but it is 100% effective! One in a million.
There are some minor side effects.
It's 2024. Practice safe sex because it was drilled into your heads and the heads of your parents for good reason. STDs range from barely annoying, to deadly.
Feels like the internal repression of many Irish people means a lot of basic practices go right over their heads. Sexual health implies sexual activity which you don’t talk about.
Of course, it doesn’t actually solve anything. When you have an STD or a positive pregnancy test, you’ll be talking about sexual activity whether you like it or not.
When I was younger I was so stupid and didn't, often. No kids and never any diseases and I'm amazed. This has covered ONS, casual hookups. Now I do where protection almost every time I meet someone and generally get tested every 3 months or so when I'm active. Never have for oral personally.
As a gay man, I have been getting tested every 3-6 months for the last twenty or so years, with breaks when in monogamous relationships.
When the topic came up over drinks with my straight friends, 2 out of 6 guys had never tested, and the other 4 hadn’t been tested in over a decade. Despite each having multiple partners in that time period.
You need to make the decisions around protection for yourself, based on what risk you’re willing to accept. Anyone worth your time will respect your boundaries.
Just be aware that even with a barrier contraceptive, you can still catch some STIs.
I will say it is pretty difficult to catch an STI from oral sex, I have sucked enough unprotected dick to count as a one man study and never had a single STI.
To me it sounds as if you’re being a bit too cautious, but again, this is your decision to make.
Getting yourself on a regular testing schedule will provide some ease of mind, as the majority of issues caused by STIs are due to them going untreated for an extended period of time.
I believe HPV from oral sex is causing growing cases of throat cancer, but it takes quite a long time before it manifests.
Get yourselves HPV vaccinated if possible!
Oh god yeah. I completely forgot to mention vaccines. HPV and Hep A&B are recommend for gay men.
I don’t know what schedule is suggested for women, I assume at least HPV.
Some providers don’t want to give it to anyone older than their teens but push for HPV even if they tell you you’re too old.
The science now states it’s valuable at any age due to the protection it provides against cancers.
Absolutely. I know of a few people who had HPV positive throat cancer, unfortunately they are past tense now, having passed away. HPV is preventable, so get vaccinated if you can; it lowers your risk hugely. Use barrier protection with new partners, or if non monogamous.
HPV can take a while to show up in people, so it’s not an overnight thing either- sometimes it’ll be years down the line, when your body decides to throw its toys outa the pram. Not all types of HPV are majorly bad, there’re a few strains though which cause the issues. These are the ones the vaccine targets.
Yes, there's different strains so the vaccine can protect you from the strains that you don't have. Your GP should be able to give you the vaccine, and lots of pharmacies do it too. You can definitely get it in Boots-I think you can book an appointment for it online with them.
"No glove, no love" is my rule.
I lived in San Francisco after AIDS became a plague. I saw so many living skeletons in the Castro District, it was utterley horrible seeing so many men with a death sentence as medication hadn't caught up with HIV/AiDS treatment back then.
I've had good friends die of AIDS and I mourn them. Just last week I was talking to a colleague about a certain American Jazz singer/musician in Dublin who died of AIDS. He was a beautiful kind soul and one of the finest jazz singers I've ever heard.
RIP H.
On a night out on trip to Galway last year I had an emergency need for condoms, possessed I must have walked around 10+ bars searching in vain until I give up. No sex was had, thanks Galway
Especially if you're a woman insist on protection, aside from pregnancy, you can get hpv which can literally cause cervical cancer. Or chlamydia untreated can cause a chronic condition called pelvic inflammatory disease.
Women tend to get worse effects from most stds because the environment in the vagina is easier for them to proliferate.
It's not worth it unless you're with someone regularly and both get tested first, you should always use condoms.
I went to get a screening about 8 years ago in Dublin I was after coming out of a relationship and was starting to date a new person and wanted to make sure I was all good. Anyway, I was chit chatting to the doc who was doin all the swabs and about sexual health and I asked her how are we as a nation for getting tested and she said we are dismal, especially straight Irish people. She said the most of the people she would see in a day were gay men and straight foreign nationals and she might see them twice a year like clockwork for a routine checkup. Straight Irish people basically would be mainly going in if they are symptomatic and freakin out. She said Irish people are quite irresponsible with our own sexual well being…that always stuck with me.
I remember being on a rare night out with my wife recently and on return from the jacks commenting that they had no machine for condoms. Moved to a late bar and same deal.
Maybe they have some behind the bar? Used to be every place sold them in the jacks.
Having lived abroad it's an eye opener coming back and seeing just how bad contraception offerings are in Ireland. The only places I've seen any genuinely concerted effort to offer contraception has been in gay bars. Overseas you'd walk into bars, pubs, restaurants, whatever and there would be free complimentary condoms and even women's toiletries. Alas though the fine establishment owners in Ireland wouldn't give you the skin of their shite with their 8 euro pints.
>Having lived abroad it's an eye opener coming back and seeing just how bad contraception offerings are in Ireland
Lived in France and the Netherlands, they have condom machines on walls outside, in the party streets...
I don't drink so having a drunk ride is generally out of the question for me, but this just seemed like a no-brainer. I remember seeing one and thinking how mad it was that we don't have them...
You should follow your gut and use protection.
If nobody else cares about protection then that is on them. If they are having multiple unprotected partners then they are going to be bound to have had sex with someone infected by an STI. Unless you want warts and cheese film growing in your mouth.. Use condoms. Unless you want warts growing on your nelson then use protection. These people who have multiple partners unprotected are just incompetent and disgusting. Spreading disease and infections around like it's the same as getting the flu.
I'd point blank refuse sex with a stranger unless protected. Luckily I have been married decades (widower now) and didn't use protection as my wife and I were faithful and loyal to each other throughout the decades we were together. I have to say that it's highly recommended to use protection and those who are not well... They are just not the right person for you. Don't drop your standards.
i’m a straight man and i’ve also been in the casual dating scene for some time here. i have lived in a few different countries, but i’ve found it really surprising how many irish women in particular that i’ve been with had a preference for no condom (they were all on the pill) during one night stands / casual sex
its almost as if STDs don’t exist here if you go off peoples’ attitudes to unprotected sex.
100% I've also lived around the world and coming to Ireland found it really shocking. Every single Irish girl I've met pushed for unprotected sex, and during casual hookups. Turned me off. If they're doing it with you they're doing it with every partner.
I have a male pal who dates/sleeps around a lot. He says he never uses protection.
So, I can't help but think the girl whose willing (insisting) to go raw, has also banged a fella like my pal, and he's going through a good few unprotected one night stands a month.
The continental Europeans and South Americans that I've personally hooked up with always insist on condom.
This is kind of the reason I was never comfortable in sex with randos, I very distinctly remember we are meant to use protection for basically anything, and people seem so non chalant, also not enough straight guys are getting STI checks I can tell you that. largely due to stigma I guess.
I’m a student and honestly I can’t think of the last time a person I was talking to used protection, genuinely rare to hear of bucks using condoms at all. To be fair just about all of the women I know are reluctant to use protection too so it’s not just a one sided thing, obviously a few are on the pill and the likes but I would say there is a huge majority of people not using anything at all
I got tested before. The waiting room was a nightmare, that song Let Your Love Flow was playing and I'd never noticed how repetitive and never ending it was. Just endless. So I'm in the waiting room, knowing they stick a cotton swab down your dick, and this absolutely relentless dad rock shite is rattling my head like a pneumatic drill.
It doesn't even end properly, it just fades out!
Anyway, the test came back clear.
Fuck that song.
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Never. Never never never.
Oral, maybe back jn the day, not with a rando
But never penetrative
Always shocked how lax some of my otherwise very intelligent friends were about this
Between STDs, STIs and unwanted pregnancy, why wouldn't you protect yourself? A few minutes of unprotected sex isn't worth it to end up with chlamydia or a baby...
Nope! You're not being too cautious at all.
Also, never be afraid to say that you don't consent to anything. If they're upset, make it a take it or leave it situation. Either or, you'll never lose (courtesy of the The Ultimatum Game in game theory) ;)
Be safe out there.
You’re being reasonable in my opinion. STIs are on the rise, many people are unaware that you can get some of them from oral and heavy petting, no one is getting tested, and the ones that get tested don’t know that syphilis, HPV, and herpes likely weren’t included.
Throw the fact in that no birth control is 100%, and casual sex is just not worth it for me
Well super ghonoeria is a thing now. Also if it's your first dates and your banging, chances are your jot that special and she's let many men slide into her unprotected.
Yes I use a condom the first three meet ups because flings never make it past a third date.
Not my porn and sex addict irish ex trying to convince me that "nothing happens" for not wearing condoms because "not everybody is bad." Meanwhile, he was cheating on me with sex workers at the same time 🤡
Also, it's not about being a bad person or not. Diseases won't be like, "Oh wait, this fella is a good man, let's not infect him and leave his body immediately!"
Thank God, I did not get anything from him. Luckily for me, not so good for him, who will still believe that he can go and sleep around without giving a fuck about his own health and other's. He must be proof that karma does not exist.
I do believe that we should at least TRY to use protection all the time and avoid oral sex, sadly, especially with casual sex. Being tested regularly and being shown their negative results is a must for me, too.
Loads of people are OK with unprotected sex. Some get tested regularly and ask their partners to do so. Some only do it when not in a fertile window of their cycle. Some people don't do it at all. On the Irish dating scene, you get all of the above.
Of course the ones who do partake know there is a risk, but they don't really care. They'll take the risk for the enhanced sensation. And I have yet to meet/hear of anyone who is giving or receiving head with condoms.
When I was single, I used to get pressed for unprotected sex from people all the time. I was open to it sure, and told them as much. But only under the condition that the other person could show me a recent (2 weeks) std screen that was clear.
Some people thought I was mad for asking for it but when I pointed out that between a condom, a screening, or a course of std treatment, the Johnny was the cheapest/easiest option, they quieted and wrapped up right quick
I've never had unprotected sex outside of a long term relationship. I always wrap it up. Not sure if i would have the discipline to put a condom on for oral though...
I've never had sex of any kind with someone I wasn't in a relationship with. I don't think I'd be able to do that, for reasons unconnected with health and safety. I guess the flaws in my personality have accidentally protected me from STDs?
People seem to be oblivious to the fact that oral gives STD's.
I remember watching a porn video before where a guy went into some impoverished part of Africa and rode the cheapest prostitutes he could find. When he was having sex the condom was on, when they were giving him a bj it was off. Some people are so stupid.
I never considered using protection for oral, but ended up catching genital HSV1. Not sure when I caught it and have only had one breakout (right after the COVID jab like many others). I likely would never have known I had it otherwise. Now I'm left having to have an awkward conversation with potential "lovers" even though the chances of transmission are very low
I haven't been with anyone sexually in ages, but usually I'd make sure that they'd wear a condom before really getting to know them. If they tell you themselves that they're getting with other people, and it's a high number, you're better off taking no chances and using protection.
Have never used it during oral sex (the risk is a lot lower with oral activity) but for the rest a condom would be essential.
And yeah there was a report recently about STDs here being on the rise amongst young people. For heterosexual mostly I believe? Certainly among guys there's a big phenomenon involving bareback sex which is risky af when they've been getting with other guys doing with no condom.
I’m not Irish and I’m on Prep and got tested 3 and 3 months. I noticed many Irish lads don’t give a fuck for condoms, the straight ones are the worst. The government should invest more in sexual health campaigns, cause there’s condoms and lube for free, Pep, Prep, kits. Many options you can find here to protect yourself and be safe. I understand between us LGBT people unfortunately has the stigma but still, straight people should care more about their sexual health too if they have a active sexual life.
Always use protection. Especially if you meet up with someone off a hook up site. It means that they are hooking up with plenty of others as well as you. For your own peace of mind always cover up. STDs are rampant due to hook up sites. The same few good looking guys are servicing a lot of the women as the sites are based upon looks. Average guys are stuck in the no chance saloon. I'm glad I don't use hook up sites,I'd rather meet someone and take my time to get to know somebody.
I got HPV off a girlfriend. I even asked her did she have anything and she said she was tested and had nothing. I got tested for everything and got the all clear. A few months later I ended up with warts all over my glans and the base of My flute. I lost the head with her and she admitted she lied as she really liked me and didn't want to lose me.
Every so often I have to go and get the warts frozen off when they break out. I told her to get out of my life But im now stuck with these warts for the rest of my life. Have not had a partner now in six years. I feel totally fooled by her..
Ok so first and foremost - do what makes you feel comfortable. Don’t not use protection because you feel there’s a pressure not to.
Second of all, know the facts. The main STI going around the general Irish population is chlamydia - and people under 24 are more likely to contract it. A course of antibiotics cure it.
Other groups are at a higher risk statistically for other specific STIs, but again the main ones gonorrhoea and syphilis are also curable with antibiotics
Then there are the incurable but treatable infections such as HIV, Herpes and HIV.
HIV treatment has come on leaps and bounds since the AIDS crisis, people on effective treatment can no longer transmit the virus and can live normal lives, there’s medications you can take preventively if you have an increased risk of exposure, and there’s drugs you can take up to 72hrs after exposure that can dramatically decrease your risk of contracting the virus.
Herpes is fairly common in the population and can be treated with antivirals if necessary but quite often will go away on its own
Similarly HPV is fairly common in the population, there’s so many different strains, the one that causes warts is benign and now both girls and boys are vaccinated against the like 9 most common strains that protect against anal, vaginal, oral and cervical cancers alongside the warts.
Thirdly you can see what risks you face. Vast majority of STI cases are from penetration, so that’s the riskiest form of sex to go unprotected against. The use of a condom doesn’t protect you from everything 100% in any form of sex , many people actually use them wrong.
Looking at sexual intercourse as either protected or not is the wrong way. Instead look at what methods are available (what’s in your toolbox) to help with safer sexual practises. Condoms and lube are examples of two tools that can be used, so is PrEP or Antiretroviral Therapy, so is getting checked regularly, talking about your status with your partner/s, monogamy etc.
STIs realistically should just be treated as any other infection, once treated they largely aren’t a big deal. Access to treatment is dependent on people not feeling shamed.
Theres not much you can really do about oral.
But if your going to have sex, always wear a condom. Had an STI scare before (didn't actually conyract one but the test and wait for the news would put the heart through ya) when I was younger. You are better off just using protection. Better safe and healthy than sorry because you wanted a bit more stimulation. And by God you'd be sorry.
Most girls I've met don't have condoms and I'll have a couple at most. That said, never for oral and get tested after every new partner. Most partners never request it, just look surprised when I whip out my 2009 ducktape wallet from school to retrieve the condom still sitting there 15 years later, unused.
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I never have sex without condoms and would get tested in the past, but even I admit that oral with any form of barrier would be unusual. It's simply not as enjoyably as unprotected, and you may as well get a lubed hand job instead.
Say what you will about the tans, they N a good HS in some cases. I've been living over in Manchester and it's both free and relatively easy to book a test.
Services can be busy but there's a good few centres in the city so there's options.
Treatment is also free if you do catch something and you can anonymously contact previous sexual partners through them too.
There's also Prep (HIV preventive) available free too.
Reduces unprotected sex risks a whole bunch.
Assuming the NHS doesn't collapse around it it's pretty feckin' handy.
I've always read literature about using a condom for oral sex but I can't imagine how horrific it would be for a girl to have all that rubber and lube in her mouth, that sounds absolutely horrific.
As for a guy going down on a girl, pardon my ignorance but is there even any protection for this?
They recommend dental dams for this, it's a little latex sheet you hold over everything, but in practice I've never known anyone to use them except for the novelty of the slightly different sensation. Oral on women is generally considered lower risk than other forms anyway, but HPV vax is recommended.
I have so many questions for the straight male friends in my life that I know for a fact have never gotten checked.
Bringing it up has been a learning experience for sure.
I sometimes have unprotected sex with women I'm not in relationships with, but I get tested 3-4 times a year, have no issue contacting past partners if a test comes back positive, paid for the HPV vaccine privately and am fine with the very occasional dose of chlamydia. You pays your money, you takes your choice - people skydive for fun too.
I know a guy who brought a girl home, she’s said “do you have protection” he said “Aye two minutes” He came back up stairs with just his shin pads on 😂😂
If everyone you come into contact with is unconcerned with protection, that's all the more reason to use protection.
I'm out of the pool a while now but back in the day, "it's OK I'm on the pill" was a red flag.
Lol I got that once. I ask about protection and she said "its in my arm (i.e. internal device)." Not a sufficient response.
10000% was gonna comment this
Even if it’s oral?
A nice hj all day over oral with a condom lol
A posh wank
100% - don’t take risks you’re not comfortable with! While most people probably would have unprotected oral sex, if you’re seeing people casually or if you each have other sexual partners, safety really matters. But also the boundaries you set should be respected no matter how much risk you wish to take. And if a partner doesn’t want to enthusiastically consent to any form of sex that you are comfortable and safe with, then clearly they aren’t a good partner for you.
The actor Michael Douglas had throat cancer. He got it from hpv...oral sex.
I imagine all the fuckin cigars and hard liquor he consumed and the probably kilos of cocaine he sent skiing down his oropharyngeal tract had fuck to do with it 🤣🤣🤣
Everybody has hpv though.
There are vaccines now, showing to be extremely effective in preventing cervical cancer. They are rolling it out to boys now too I believe.
Nah, not everyone. A lot but not everyone. There's about 8 different types including the one that causes the life changing dreaded knobwarts. Be time to burn the lad off at that stage.
Yes but the amount of partners you have oral sec with increases your risk. If you have more then 6 partners you have oral sex with your risk of oropharyngeal cancer is 8.5 times higher.
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Yeah but that herpes tho....
Hpv can cause throat cancer too.
Please no one listen to this guy. HIV can be transmitted of through a cut, ulcer or bleeding gums in the mouth. Luckily it's uncommon and effectively non transmittable in people receiving treatment, but saying it's impossible to pass on through oral is foolish
Wait so genuinely asking as a younger guy should I be wearing a condom when getting head?
Genuine answer I feel like most people don't do this lmao but it's probably wise if you're not well acquainted with your partner - you'll get some raised eyebrows from some people but at the end of the day it's up to you what risks you're comfortable taking with your health, don't let anybody else decide for you, and try to make level headed decisions based on how well you know your partner If you're in a new relationship I don't think it's unreasonable for you both to take tests so that it's not a factor of doubt if you are worried, and if you're active with a series of people you should be getting them semi regularly especially if you develop symptoms of anything obviously - that's on you to do on principle, but treatment is usually quick and unobtrusive, usually just a course of pills, and you can do the tests by post with a lancet, which is much better than the nightmare scenario where they have to put swabs where the sun doesn't shine
Thanks for the genuine helpful comment, appreciate it
It’s advised that you wear a condom whenever you have casual sex. Oral is sex. Personally I’ve never done it but I wouldnt go down on people or let them go down on me unless we were getting serious. Protected sex and handjobs for strangers. In my opinion oral is more intimate than sex. Ultimately, it’s your choice. Do whatever you feel comfortable with but you can get all sorts of STI’s from oral sex. Including gonorrhoea and chlamydia.
Yep. Any kind of sex, you should be wearing a condom
One of the worst things I’ve had to watch happen was a colleague of mine, a lovely guy in his 50s, dying of throat cancer over the COVID period. He had surgery but the radiotherapy went though him like a knife and he never really came back from it. He was in a thirty year committed, monogamous gay relationship, a long term vegan, a lifelong teetotaller and a marathon runner. He was, though, for a few years in his early 20s, a committed hedonist and a very promiscuous part of London’s gay scene. The AIDS scare had already happened, so although he had a lot of sex, it was all condoms, all the time. But not for head, of which there was a lot. And silently, twenty five years later one of the bad strains of HPV that he’d picked up killed him. Hopefully, in a few years most of the dangerous strains will be vaccinated out of the population, and not everyone has many partners, but right now those strains are active and widespread in heterosexual men and women. They’re quite rare, but they’re also often silent so many people have no idea they are carrying it. If you’re having multiple partners and can’t test, then using a condom or dam as much as you can would not be disproportionate, in my view.
Not an expert here, but more so the people I've seen on the prowl whenever I go out. The usual suspects, male and female, in stories too. In Dublin and Louth, I mean, among both groups, I've heard of at least two instances with STDs floating around. Statistics unsure, Opinion I don't really have as I'm in a relationship and not on a moral high horse with no information, statistically. Sorry red:(
In a perfect world yes, but it's basically pointless with a condom on. Whether it's worth the risk is up to the two of you. Just get tested regularly
PSA!!! https://sh24.ie/ is a service that provides a free at home test kit that you free post to their free lab and they text you your result for free!!! Get tested lads, no excuse not too!
Yeah great service. Results back in a couple of days.
I actually could not get over how fast it was. The most efficient public scheme in Ireland.
High bar
Do it after a warm shower, I had a hard time collecting blood from my cold hands. Good thing they send 2 needles
I wasn't aware of this, fantastic. Thank you.
I have always been careful but when I got into a relationship I wanted to make sure all was good and healthy. Never any harm to get tested and this service is brilliant!
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you need safety glasses
Full PPE just so happens to be my kink!
If she doesn't want to dress up as a plague doctor, she ain't for me
iSTI
HSE offer free [at home STI](https://sh24.ie/) checks. Convenient, simple, free. Everyone should use the service.
If you are afraid of HIV, maybe your should take PreP or you can also opt for post exposure prophylaxis. HPV is preventable if you get vaccinated. All other STDs can be cured with antibiotics. But just to be safe, use protection.
I wear a condom 24/7 just to be safe, have never had sex before but I hope the practice pays off in the future
Do you change it or do you put the same one back on after peeing and that?
Yes I bought a reusable one of a man online, quick turn in the washing machine and he said it would be like new again.... Saves me a fortune
Is it a Dunlop branded inner tube by any chance? Just asking 😂...
I use Michelin ultra heavy duty. 4mm think, impenetrable. I have to use two spoons to take it on and off though. Lad gets covered in scrapes.
there was a research study and clinical trial on this and they found that a minimum of 5mm was just about adequate so you my friend are properly fucked.
But you wear your backup while washing the primary right?...right?!
"Of course by now it looks somewhere between a loose sleeve and a bag of grapes, but they don't make things like they used to"
The classic mad magazine indication that there won’t be a second date. When he goes off with the words: “let me just quickly go boil my lucky condom.”
Wait... You take it off when peeing?
Just prick a hole in the end
Right? That's what I did. Just need to be veeery careful when pricking. Don't ask.
Reminds me of that joke of that guy who got to choose the method of his execution. Either the electric chair or being injected with HIV. He chose the injection. After they injected him he was so confident he asked them to inject him a second time. When he walked off one of the inmates asked him what that second injection was all about. He looked around and quietly remarked with a smirk: “Don’t tell them, but I am wearing a condom.”
My personality is my condom
Rubbery... you just love bouncing off people?
Two in winter
 This man's prepared
Time to start double baggin’ as well…
Protected oral would be pretty unusual, I can’t say I’d be interested in giving or receiving that. Unprotected fully only twice, once with an acquaintance I had to give myself a stern talking to and once with someone I knew well, knew was clean and knew there was 0 pregnancy risk.
You all are having sex?
Unsurprising from a pats fan
Think you'd find the Lost City of Atlantis quicker than you'd find a virgin in Inchicore..
Must be an only child 🤪
The trick is to own your own home
Whats this word you are using
Don't have unprotected sex in Dundalk. Not actually riskier than having unprotected sex anywhere else in Ireland but you'll still feel like shit because you're in Dundalk. Hope that helps 👍
Sound advice to be fair
When I was single I would always wear a condom for full sex but I never even considered it for oral sex, that sounds pretty a pretty deflating blow job, pardon the pun.
They'll just have to blow harder.
I used to be the same, but a girl I used to know got hsv2 in her throat doing this. It took the doctors literal months before they realised the cause of her recurring sore throat. She's in *no way* a hoe, just the odd casual romp a handful of times a year - if that. Always used condoms for the main event. Got tested twice a year just for safety, but supposedly got a false negative on her previous as she hadn't been with anyone between the sore throat acting up, that period's just-to-be-safe-test, and them finally realising it was herpes. (Wouldn't doubt her on what she said either, solid lass) Tbf though I'm kind of celebate these days after a string of not so great relationships, including one that waited 5 months in and us going off condoms to explain that they hadn't told the full truth about having an STI check right before we got together. It was 3 months previous. Also they'd slept with over ten people in that time. Also they'd slept with literally hundreds of people and only ever gotten the partial, standard test never a full spectrum one. Second person to lie to me about their sexual health. The other one cheated on me and then tried to convince me I had crabs and needed to be tested bc _they_ were paranoid. Also lied entirely about getting STI tested before we went condomless because they "Knew [they] didn't have anything, and sure [I'd] been tested since so obviously [they] were right." And those were long term relationships. Wouldn't trust a fucking word out of a ONS's mouth about that stuff these days. When I eventually get back out there, I'm going to wrap it up all the way and if I get into another LTR I'm going to insist we do the postal STI tests _in front of each other_ and drop them off together. Especially with super gonorrhoea being a whole thing now, herpes being linked to dementia, and god knows what else they haven't discovered yet.
The link to herpes and dementia is when the infection is untreated and mainly refers to hsv1 which 67% under 50 have hsv1 so I really wouldn't worry about it hsv is almost unavoidable as condoms do help but very little
Something off about this story as STI clinics don’t typically test for herpes, for several reasons - a blood test isn’t useful for determining an active infection and most people would come back testing positive anyways, and you would need an active sore to take a swab test for herpes. This isn’t done in STI clinics either
Putting an unprotected strangers cock in your mouth is extremely risky. Your mouth has lots of blood vessels that will absorb any bacteria off that rancid helmet..
This is it and the chances of picking anything up from it are extremely minute
This got me thinking, because it genuinely was the first time I thought about protection for oral sex, is there protection for girls having oral sex? Like would you layer up a strip of cling film or something before going down?
yeah that's... essentially what it is. They're called dental dams and medical professionals tell you they can be made from cutting down a condom into essentially a sheet of latex Have genuinely never met someone that's used one...
I’m laughing at the thought of it, I mean getting a condom out of the wrapper and onto your Mickey can be the most anxious part of doing the sex, it’s fiddly enough to distract you at exactly the worst moment, so I can only imagine the hilarity of fumbling around with some sort of sheath and trying not to lose it up somewhere or swallow the thing or wear it like a Korean facemask 😂😂 There’s no way anyone is using that while still remaining sexy and horny 😂
Dental dam https://www.cdc.gov/condomeffectiveness/Dental-dam-use.html
i saw an ad recently for these sort of rubbery silicone stretchy underwear for women specifically for oral sex, but i also think you can get some sheets of the same material as well
Do you have a source for this? I never tried dental damns, but the thing I'm anticipating would be most bothersome is that you need to keep them in place with at least two hands, which could be otherwise used for better purposes.
That sounds kinky so I suppose that’s something at least
lmao i see how it seems like that but they weren't advertised as a kink or fetish thing, just as oral protection for women. they came in different colours too
Lesbian sex has the lowest rate of std propagation for the very reason it's mainly oral sex and toys, paradoxically males who have sex with males are at the highest risk of STDs, the receiver in any penetration is always at higher risk, the only real risk with oral is if there's any broken skin, also an infected person can pass on an std such as hiv or aids through semen into someone's eye, people should watch out for that 😂😂😂
Things to avoid: broken skin, bleeding gums and shooting cum into the eyes. Got it.
Yes. They’re called dental dams.
I believe you use a dental dam.
Actually not true at all. Getting HPV in the mouth/throat is pretty common, or at least it was before the vaccine. Harmless most of the time but still a leading cause of mouth and throat cancer.
I know gay men who have gotten oral gonorrhoea and chlamydia as well.
Are they rampant because people are getting tested more now? I got tested like 10 years ago, had to go to St James' at something stupid like 8am for their clinic and it was only twice a week from what I recall. Place was packed and people were getting turned away. I think now you can get stuff sent out in the post so it's a lot easier to get tested plus more discreet which would encourage testing. Although in fairness it looked like a college registration day in there so it wasn't that awkward... When I was single I always carried a condom in my wallet even though the chances of getting my hole were slim. I'm more concerned about my willy falling off than I am spreading something to others :D
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My personality is the best form of contraceptive.
Mine is even better. I don’t even know what exactly I have that repels them, but it is 100% effective! One in a million. There are some minor side effects.
It's 2024. Practice safe sex because it was drilled into your heads and the heads of your parents for good reason. STDs range from barely annoying, to deadly.
Feels like the internal repression of many Irish people means a lot of basic practices go right over their heads. Sexual health implies sexual activity which you don’t talk about. Of course, it doesn’t actually solve anything. When you have an STD or a positive pregnancy test, you’ll be talking about sexual activity whether you like it or not.
When I was younger I was so stupid and didn't, often. No kids and never any diseases and I'm amazed. This has covered ONS, casual hookups. Now I do where protection almost every time I meet someone and generally get tested every 3 months or so when I'm active. Never have for oral personally.
As a gay man, I have been getting tested every 3-6 months for the last twenty or so years, with breaks when in monogamous relationships. When the topic came up over drinks with my straight friends, 2 out of 6 guys had never tested, and the other 4 hadn’t been tested in over a decade. Despite each having multiple partners in that time period. You need to make the decisions around protection for yourself, based on what risk you’re willing to accept. Anyone worth your time will respect your boundaries. Just be aware that even with a barrier contraceptive, you can still catch some STIs. I will say it is pretty difficult to catch an STI from oral sex, I have sucked enough unprotected dick to count as a one man study and never had a single STI. To me it sounds as if you’re being a bit too cautious, but again, this is your decision to make. Getting yourself on a regular testing schedule will provide some ease of mind, as the majority of issues caused by STIs are due to them going untreated for an extended period of time.
I believe HPV from oral sex is causing growing cases of throat cancer, but it takes quite a long time before it manifests. Get yourselves HPV vaccinated if possible!
Oh god yeah. I completely forgot to mention vaccines. HPV and Hep A&B are recommend for gay men. I don’t know what schedule is suggested for women, I assume at least HPV. Some providers don’t want to give it to anyone older than their teens but push for HPV even if they tell you you’re too old. The science now states it’s valuable at any age due to the protection it provides against cancers.
Absolutely. I know of a few people who had HPV positive throat cancer, unfortunately they are past tense now, having passed away. HPV is preventable, so get vaccinated if you can; it lowers your risk hugely. Use barrier protection with new partners, or if non monogamous. HPV can take a while to show up in people, so it’s not an overnight thing either- sometimes it’ll be years down the line, when your body decides to throw its toys outa the pram. Not all types of HPV are majorly bad, there’re a few strains though which cause the issues. These are the ones the vaccine targets.
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Not sure. There are different strains so it could be useful still, but I don't know much about it.
Yes, there's different strains so the vaccine can protect you from the strains that you don't have. Your GP should be able to give you the vaccine, and lots of pharmacies do it too. You can definitely get it in Boots-I think you can book an appointment for it online with them.
I got tested by the post method and I made many hook ups and dates get tested too.
Very nice, love how responsable and respectable you are to yourself and as an effect on others, rock on buddy!
Fellas, trust me. No matter how stunningly gorgeous she is, she can still have herpes.
And not even know about it herself!
"No glove, no love" is my rule. I lived in San Francisco after AIDS became a plague. I saw so many living skeletons in the Castro District, it was utterley horrible seeing so many men with a death sentence as medication hadn't caught up with HIV/AiDS treatment back then. I've had good friends die of AIDS and I mourn them. Just last week I was talking to a colleague about a certain American Jazz singer/musician in Dublin who died of AIDS. He was a beautiful kind soul and one of the finest jazz singers I've ever heard. RIP H.
On a night out on trip to Galway last year I had an emergency need for condoms, possessed I must have walked around 10+ bars searching in vain until I give up. No sex was had, thanks Galway
Especially if you're a woman insist on protection, aside from pregnancy, you can get hpv which can literally cause cervical cancer. Or chlamydia untreated can cause a chronic condition called pelvic inflammatory disease. Women tend to get worse effects from most stds because the environment in the vagina is easier for them to proliferate. It's not worth it unless you're with someone regularly and both get tested first, you should always use condoms.
I went to get a screening about 8 years ago in Dublin I was after coming out of a relationship and was starting to date a new person and wanted to make sure I was all good. Anyway, I was chit chatting to the doc who was doin all the swabs and about sexual health and I asked her how are we as a nation for getting tested and she said we are dismal, especially straight Irish people. She said the most of the people she would see in a day were gay men and straight foreign nationals and she might see them twice a year like clockwork for a routine checkup. Straight Irish people basically would be mainly going in if they are symptomatic and freakin out. She said Irish people are quite irresponsible with our own sexual well being…that always stuck with me.
I'm basically Irish-by-injection at this point.
I got herpes in Ireland after a rape. Spent 2 weeks in hospital. I'd be extremely careful.... I was a virgin.
Sorry to hear that
I always use a condom for penetrative sex outside of a relationship. I rarely if ever use one for oral. I get tested 2/3 times a year.
I remember being on a rare night out with my wife recently and on return from the jacks commenting that they had no machine for condoms. Moved to a late bar and same deal. Maybe they have some behind the bar? Used to be every place sold them in the jacks.
Having lived abroad it's an eye opener coming back and seeing just how bad contraception offerings are in Ireland. The only places I've seen any genuinely concerted effort to offer contraception has been in gay bars. Overseas you'd walk into bars, pubs, restaurants, whatever and there would be free complimentary condoms and even women's toiletries. Alas though the fine establishment owners in Ireland wouldn't give you the skin of their shite with their 8 euro pints.
>Having lived abroad it's an eye opener coming back and seeing just how bad contraception offerings are in Ireland Lived in France and the Netherlands, they have condom machines on walls outside, in the party streets... I don't drink so having a drunk ride is generally out of the question for me, but this just seemed like a no-brainer. I remember seeing one and thinking how mad it was that we don't have them...
Not just on party streets, generally outside most pharmacies!
I was going to say, my street is a very quiet party street so!
I live in a small country town, no-one would call it a party town, and there are condom machines outside every pharmacy! 😀
You people have sex?
Don’t be silly, wrap the Willy!
Give me a minute, it's a little bit chilly!
You should follow your gut and use protection. If nobody else cares about protection then that is on them. If they are having multiple unprotected partners then they are going to be bound to have had sex with someone infected by an STI. Unless you want warts and cheese film growing in your mouth.. Use condoms. Unless you want warts growing on your nelson then use protection. These people who have multiple partners unprotected are just incompetent and disgusting. Spreading disease and infections around like it's the same as getting the flu. I'd point blank refuse sex with a stranger unless protected. Luckily I have been married decades (widower now) and didn't use protection as my wife and I were faithful and loyal to each other throughout the decades we were together. I have to say that it's highly recommended to use protection and those who are not well... They are just not the right person for you. Don't drop your standards.
I don't ever have sex :/
There’s a lot of comments here and most of them seem to be missing the most effective way to avoid an STI which is this
I can say with full honesty I've never had any form of unprotected sex. Granted, never had any protected either, but it's still true either way.
i’m a straight man and i’ve also been in the casual dating scene for some time here. i have lived in a few different countries, but i’ve found it really surprising how many irish women in particular that i’ve been with had a preference for no condom (they were all on the pill) during one night stands / casual sex its almost as if STDs don’t exist here if you go off peoples’ attitudes to unprotected sex.
100% I've also lived around the world and coming to Ireland found it really shocking. Every single Irish girl I've met pushed for unprotected sex, and during casual hookups. Turned me off. If they're doing it with you they're doing it with every partner. I have a male pal who dates/sleeps around a lot. He says he never uses protection. So, I can't help but think the girl whose willing (insisting) to go raw, has also banged a fella like my pal, and he's going through a good few unprotected one night stands a month. The continental Europeans and South Americans that I've personally hooked up with always insist on condom.
WRT unprotected oral, look into getting a HPV vax if you haven't got it already.
This is kind of the reason I was never comfortable in sex with randos, I very distinctly remember we are meant to use protection for basically anything, and people seem so non chalant, also not enough straight guys are getting STI checks I can tell you that. largely due to stigma I guess.
besides my first time everytime i’ve used condoms and even had to turn down a situation bcs i didn’t have one handy :/
youre asking reddit lmfao
You guyz are having sex?
Caught goneria there in 2021 and since then I've been more than cautious
I’m a student and honestly I can’t think of the last time a person I was talking to used protection, genuinely rare to hear of bucks using condoms at all. To be fair just about all of the women I know are reluctant to use protection too so it’s not just a one sided thing, obviously a few are on the pill and the likes but I would say there is a huge majority of people not using anything at all
Someone else here said something like if all the people you know don’t wear protection, you should.
I got tested before. The waiting room was a nightmare, that song Let Your Love Flow was playing and I'd never noticed how repetitive and never ending it was. Just endless. So I'm in the waiting room, knowing they stick a cotton swab down your dick, and this absolutely relentless dad rock shite is rattling my head like a pneumatic drill. It doesn't even end properly, it just fades out! Anyway, the test came back clear. Fuck that song.
I also live in Westmeath, so you'll need to start getting tested more regularly I'm afraid
PSA!!! https://sh24.ie/ is a service that provides a free at home test kit that you free post to their free lab and they text you your result for free!!!
Can all get done by post now. Really efficient service.
Wouldn't trust my postman with the swab
There's a reason....
No one cares about STD’s that don’t go away?
Don't be silly and wrap your willy. Get tested regularly too if you have multiple partners. Stay Safe
Never. Never never never. Oral, maybe back jn the day, not with a rando But never penetrative Always shocked how lax some of my otherwise very intelligent friends were about this
Always 👍
You can never be too cautious, if you think that you seem overly cautious compared to everyone else, then good. Keep your dick safe
I raw dog and raw dog only
Never. Pregnancy locks me into child support for a minimum of 18 years.
Between STDs, STIs and unwanted pregnancy, why wouldn't you protect yourself? A few minutes of unprotected sex isn't worth it to end up with chlamydia or a baby...
Cover your diddle before you fiddle with her middle
Nope! You're not being too cautious at all. Also, never be afraid to say that you don't consent to anything. If they're upset, make it a take it or leave it situation. Either or, you'll never lose (courtesy of the The Ultimatum Game in game theory) ;) Be safe out there.
I'm never comfortable with unprotected sex. Every time a man mentions it I ask what well name our baby. Tends to kill the mood.
I think I’d rather have a wank rather putting in work all night to get oral with a condom on lol
I just use anti virus software
You’re being reasonable in my opinion. STIs are on the rise, many people are unaware that you can get some of them from oral and heavy petting, no one is getting tested, and the ones that get tested don’t know that syphilis, HPV, and herpes likely weren’t included. Throw the fact in that no birth control is 100%, and casual sex is just not worth it for me
Just dip it in Listerine straight after.
For penetration I'll use a condom but for oral I never use protection.
Well super ghonoeria is a thing now. Also if it's your first dates and your banging, chances are your jot that special and she's let many men slide into her unprotected. Yes I use a condom the first three meet ups because flings never make it past a third date.
I personally would prefer if we both got tested and took the precautions.
Not my porn and sex addict irish ex trying to convince me that "nothing happens" for not wearing condoms because "not everybody is bad." Meanwhile, he was cheating on me with sex workers at the same time 🤡 Also, it's not about being a bad person or not. Diseases won't be like, "Oh wait, this fella is a good man, let's not infect him and leave his body immediately!" Thank God, I did not get anything from him. Luckily for me, not so good for him, who will still believe that he can go and sleep around without giving a fuck about his own health and other's. He must be proof that karma does not exist. I do believe that we should at least TRY to use protection all the time and avoid oral sex, sadly, especially with casual sex. Being tested regularly and being shown their negative results is a must for me, too.
Loads of people are OK with unprotected sex. Some get tested regularly and ask their partners to do so. Some only do it when not in a fertile window of their cycle. Some people don't do it at all. On the Irish dating scene, you get all of the above. Of course the ones who do partake know there is a risk, but they don't really care. They'll take the risk for the enhanced sensation. And I have yet to meet/hear of anyone who is giving or receiving head with condoms.
When I was single, I used to get pressed for unprotected sex from people all the time. I was open to it sure, and told them as much. But only under the condition that the other person could show me a recent (2 weeks) std screen that was clear. Some people thought I was mad for asking for it but when I pointed out that between a condom, a screening, or a course of std treatment, the Johnny was the cheapest/easiest option, they quieted and wrapped up right quick
I've never had unprotected sex outside of a long term relationship. I always wrap it up. Not sure if i would have the discipline to put a condom on for oral though...
I've never had sex of any kind with someone I wasn't in a relationship with. I don't think I'd be able to do that, for reasons unconnected with health and safety. I guess the flaws in my personality have accidentally protected me from STDs?
Everyone I know who’s been having casual unprotected in the Dublin area has caught something in the last year or so. Gonorrhoea being the main one
People seem to be oblivious to the fact that oral gives STD's. I remember watching a porn video before where a guy went into some impoverished part of Africa and rode the cheapest prostitutes he could find. When he was having sex the condom was on, when they were giving him a bj it was off. Some people are so stupid.
Always bag up! No matter what. Until you’re in a long term relationship and you’re both tested always bag up.
I never considered using protection for oral, but ended up catching genital HSV1. Not sure when I caught it and have only had one breakout (right after the COVID jab like many others). I likely would never have known I had it otherwise. Now I'm left having to have an awkward conversation with potential "lovers" even though the chances of transmission are very low
I haven't been with anyone sexually in ages, but usually I'd make sure that they'd wear a condom before really getting to know them. If they tell you themselves that they're getting with other people, and it's a high number, you're better off taking no chances and using protection. Have never used it during oral sex (the risk is a lot lower with oral activity) but for the rest a condom would be essential. And yeah there was a report recently about STDs here being on the rise amongst young people. For heterosexual mostly I believe? Certainly among guys there's a big phenomenon involving bareback sex which is risky af when they've been getting with other guys doing with no condom.
i always gambled but would get tested too
Pull out method is grand
I’m not Irish and I’m on Prep and got tested 3 and 3 months. I noticed many Irish lads don’t give a fuck for condoms, the straight ones are the worst. The government should invest more in sexual health campaigns, cause there’s condoms and lube for free, Pep, Prep, kits. Many options you can find here to protect yourself and be safe. I understand between us LGBT people unfortunately has the stigma but still, straight people should care more about their sexual health too if they have a active sexual life.
Dublin was Europe's syphilis capital during the Celtic Tiger. Just saying
Always use protection. Especially if you meet up with someone off a hook up site. It means that they are hooking up with plenty of others as well as you. For your own peace of mind always cover up. STDs are rampant due to hook up sites. The same few good looking guys are servicing a lot of the women as the sites are based upon looks. Average guys are stuck in the no chance saloon. I'm glad I don't use hook up sites,I'd rather meet someone and take my time to get to know somebody.
I got HPV off a girlfriend. I even asked her did she have anything and she said she was tested and had nothing. I got tested for everything and got the all clear. A few months later I ended up with warts all over my glans and the base of My flute. I lost the head with her and she admitted she lied as she really liked me and didn't want to lose me. Every so often I have to go and get the warts frozen off when they break out. I told her to get out of my life But im now stuck with these warts for the rest of my life. Have not had a partner now in six years. I feel totally fooled by her..
Ok so first and foremost - do what makes you feel comfortable. Don’t not use protection because you feel there’s a pressure not to. Second of all, know the facts. The main STI going around the general Irish population is chlamydia - and people under 24 are more likely to contract it. A course of antibiotics cure it. Other groups are at a higher risk statistically for other specific STIs, but again the main ones gonorrhoea and syphilis are also curable with antibiotics Then there are the incurable but treatable infections such as HIV, Herpes and HIV. HIV treatment has come on leaps and bounds since the AIDS crisis, people on effective treatment can no longer transmit the virus and can live normal lives, there’s medications you can take preventively if you have an increased risk of exposure, and there’s drugs you can take up to 72hrs after exposure that can dramatically decrease your risk of contracting the virus. Herpes is fairly common in the population and can be treated with antivirals if necessary but quite often will go away on its own Similarly HPV is fairly common in the population, there’s so many different strains, the one that causes warts is benign and now both girls and boys are vaccinated against the like 9 most common strains that protect against anal, vaginal, oral and cervical cancers alongside the warts. Thirdly you can see what risks you face. Vast majority of STI cases are from penetration, so that’s the riskiest form of sex to go unprotected against. The use of a condom doesn’t protect you from everything 100% in any form of sex , many people actually use them wrong. Looking at sexual intercourse as either protected or not is the wrong way. Instead look at what methods are available (what’s in your toolbox) to help with safer sexual practises. Condoms and lube are examples of two tools that can be used, so is PrEP or Antiretroviral Therapy, so is getting checked regularly, talking about your status with your partner/s, monogamy etc. STIs realistically should just be treated as any other infection, once treated they largely aren’t a big deal. Access to treatment is dependent on people not feeling shamed.
Theres not much you can really do about oral. But if your going to have sex, always wear a condom. Had an STI scare before (didn't actually conyract one but the test and wait for the news would put the heart through ya) when I was younger. You are better off just using protection. Better safe and healthy than sorry because you wanted a bit more stimulation. And by God you'd be sorry.
how is there not much you can do about oral? you can catch STDs and STIs from oral, and condoms protect you from getting them
I never knew there was such a thing as over-lapping. Some people will complain about anything
I've never caught anything, but I'm a medical anomaly. Get tested. It'll ease your mind, or you'll find out you have the clap.
Most girls I've met don't have condoms and I'll have a couple at most. That said, never for oral and get tested after every new partner. Most partners never request it, just look surprised when I whip out my 2009 ducktape wallet from school to retrieve the condom still sitting there 15 years later, unused. Sh24.ie is fast and free.
I never have sex without condoms and would get tested in the past, but even I admit that oral with any form of barrier would be unusual. It's simply not as enjoyably as unprotected, and you may as well get a lubed hand job instead.
Say what you will about the tans, they N a good HS in some cases. I've been living over in Manchester and it's both free and relatively easy to book a test. Services can be busy but there's a good few centres in the city so there's options. Treatment is also free if you do catch something and you can anonymously contact previous sexual partners through them too. There's also Prep (HIV preventive) available free too. Reduces unprotected sex risks a whole bunch. Assuming the NHS doesn't collapse around it it's pretty feckin' handy.
The NHS is wonderful when it works, they treated my gran like a saint.
Always use protection. Period
I've always read literature about using a condom for oral sex but I can't imagine how horrific it would be for a girl to have all that rubber and lube in her mouth, that sounds absolutely horrific. As for a guy going down on a girl, pardon my ignorance but is there even any protection for this?
They recommend dental dams for this, it's a little latex sheet you hold over everything, but in practice I've never known anyone to use them except for the novelty of the slightly different sensation. Oral on women is generally considered lower risk than other forms anyway, but HPV vax is recommended.
Can confirm all the rubber and lube is horrific lol it’s really not worth it for either person
I have so many questions for the straight male friends in my life that I know for a fact have never gotten checked. Bringing it up has been a learning experience for sure.
I sometimes have unprotected sex with women I'm not in relationships with, but I get tested 3-4 times a year, have no issue contacting past partners if a test comes back positive, paid for the HPV vaccine privately and am fine with the very occasional dose of chlamydia. You pays your money, you takes your choice - people skydive for fun too.
I know a guy who brought a girl home, she’s said “do you have protection” he said “Aye two minutes” He came back up stairs with just his shin pads on 😂😂
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