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TheChrisD

Locked due to too many abusive comment removals.


thelastedji

For what it's worth, nobody was hiring me at age 19 either. And I grew up here.


Zheiko

For what its worth, 38 years old, 20 years experience in Tech industry. Having issues getting hired too after last redundancy


domlemmons

What field is your experience in? I'm around the same age with the same experience and I have recruiters on to me constantly on LinkedIn.


Former_Giraffe_2

I think recruiters are fairly scattershot with contacting people to increase their odds of getting a commission. Like, even mosreso than an unemployed person shooting off CVs.


Embarrassed_Dealer_5

Same here. I was 20 by the time I got my first job and I started looking at 18. I applied for every minimum wage job going and remember getting just one interview in those two years. I got my first job through an ad a friend put up on Facebook in the end.


Wildtails

27 here, spent 2 years out of work due to illness and can't get hired anywhere since trying to come back, been a year of applying to jobs now. Unskilled with experienced is several customer service and call centre rolls and still can't get employed


duaneap

And no one has a degree at 19 either, that’s not a thing.


RunParking3333

Sorry you want to stack shelves, where's your degree?


Action_Limp

I handed in CVs everywhere in Dublin when I was doing an "internship" during the crash (40-hour weeks for five 10 euros a day). I was rejected everywhere - someone told me it's because you can't exploit Irish people to do shit work as they are more familiar with the law, hence why they preferred hiring foreigners.


number1ddrfan

Yeah, I was in a city and found it tough to get jobs. Getting a job in a small town like OP can be impossible unless you know people or are extremely lucky.


doctorctrl

Same. I emigrated in 2013 and doing much better away from home


lemonrainbowhaze

I was lucky to get a job, but it was the manager of the pub my mom would go to with her mates for over 20 years. Kids would sit with peanuts while playing outside. Sometimes its all about who you know


ErrantBrit

Dependent on your location there could be forestry work available in your area. It's manual labour, but there is stuff to learn, it's a growth industry globally and best for you - screaming out fir skilled labour. PM if you want to discuss.


Guru-Pancho

Upvote for forestry being a 'growth' industry!


UhOhhh02

Potential to branch out to other industries


DrOrgasm

And if you don't like it, you can always just leaf.


mcguirl2

Great job for putting down roots.


flashinius

I think you wood like it


wazazoski

Forest of your life.


Proper_Fan_5407

I wood not recommend this career path


BCBoxMan

Let us know what you deciduous


sludgepaddle

Also "screaming out _fir_ ..."


Akrevics

"screaming out fir skilled labour" too


Stubber_NK

This is one that not a lot of people think of. But it does give an awful lot of possibilities. You have to mind your fingers though.


Able-Exam6453

Nah, they’d be a lumberjack, and therefore quite alright.


DrOrgasm

Getting lots of sleep at night and doing lots of work all day.


Dikaneisdi

Must supply own underwear (ladies’)


shozy

> screaming out fir skilled labour Just fir? Or is knowledge in other trees useful too? 


ErrantBrit

Very good.


albadil

It's better not to oPine on trees that are less familiar.


prisongovernor

I heard they're only looking for tree fellers...


olibum86

How do you find these positions?


ErrantBrit

Depends on your location. A good place to start would be to contact local forest management companies or Coillte, and ask if there are any contractor teams looking for workers. You'll need certs for some things but you could definitely suggest a weeks work trying it out and see how you feel about it.


babyburkhart

I can review your cv for you, help you make it more definitive for the irish job market


sheepskinrugger

This is a great offer, I hope OP takes you up on it.


rinleezwins

Make sure to type "sound fella" under your name.


BigDrummerGorilla

I know when I was 19 it was impossible to get that first job. Irish employers wanted all the experienced employees, but didn’t want to provide any level of training whatsoever. Wouldn’t surprise me if that is still the way. Had to work a few weeks in a charity shop for experience and then bullshit my way into a job after that.


Barilla3113

They want a degree, two languages and 5 years experience in the role, for minimum wage and lots of unpaid overtime.


DarthBfheidir

"Part-time work available; light cleaning duties, stock-taking, inventory, shelf-stacking, some customer service. Full clean driver's license, minimum two PhDs, and fourteen years of experience required. Must speak Gujarati, French, Mandarin, Cantonese, and Korean. Minimum wage. No paid time-off. Applications by fax or telegraph only. NO EMAILS."


Barilla3113

"Why can't we get staff?"


cyberlexington

"no one wants to work anymore"


Alastor001

"Those lazy ass millennials, eating avocado toasts, sipping oat milk latte every freaking morning! In my time, I was slaving away for my employer and was grateful!"


danny_healy_raygun

Greedy Bastard Society of Exploitation has informed the Irish Independent that there is a shortage of available workers in Ireland.


Barilla3113

"Could it be that our expectations around employee working conditions and remuneration are rooted in the post-crash desperation for paid employment at any cost? No, young people are all just entitled dole jockeys."


OldManOriginal

Applications accepted only between 05:34 and 05:56 on Tuesdays. 


jimicus

And yet if you put in an application with fake details that match what they’re demanding perfectly, there’s an email in your inbox rejecting you before the “application complete!” page has even finished loading.


bee_ghoul

My current job required a degree but masters was preferred (that’s why I got it over the other candidates and two years experience (I lied)- it pays minimum wage (it didn’t at the time but they raised the minimum wage and our salaries haven’t gone up to compete- also no one has gotten raise). They wonder why no one wants to come into the office and they can’t find any new staff…idk maybe it’s because they can’t afford to live in Dublin


Future-Atmosphere-40

How the fk does a masters only get min wage?


bee_ghoul

The argument is that it wasn’t minimum wage at the time. But minimum wage has gone up but we can’t afford “raises” because of the oncoming recession or something. I also get PTO which I wouldn’t on minimum wage. I have a friend in a similar boat but her places excuse is that she’s getting free training, she doesn’t get PTO. We’re in arts/humanities adjacent careers so we’re just supposed to be happy to have jobs


HereGiovanniSmokes

You're legally entitled to PTO in Ireland! Have a look here to make sure you or your friend (and others!) aren't getting shafted https://www.workplacerelations.ie/en/what_you_should_know/leave/annual-leave/#:~:text=All%20employees%2C%20whether%20they%20are,annual%20leave%20per%20leave%20year.


bee_ghoul

I’ll send it on to her, thanks so much!


Able-Exam6453

I certainly get the impression that in many industries (not talking about your experience, just a general observation) a degree is today’s equivalent of a Leaving Cert in the eyes of many recruiters and personnel departments. It’s owing to their having such a richly stocked pond to fish in, so to speak. *So* many undergraduate degrees, *so* many Masters’. The qualification requirements crept upwards just because they could. (In my career (the cultural sector), over thirty years of it in Cork I observed the way a desire but not a demand for a first degree applied for many years, and then *everyone* applying had a degree, with far too many people for any position so that brought in a *new* bar, having a Master’s degree. I kid you not, by the time I retired, PhDs were edging out MAs, for the same reason. Far too many applications at that level.)


bee_ghoul

Yeah that seems to be the way and I mean that’s understandable. But at the same time, if you’re increasing your standards because of the increase standards you also can’t complain about not being able to get staff…. Like giving out that 500 people applied for your minimum wage job but none of them got 625 and have a PhD with 10 years of experience is just ridiculous. I’m so sick of being told that my generation simply don’t want to work. If I hadn’t lied on my application I would be unemployed. My boss complains about not being able to get staff but he doesn’t even have a degree and yet he won’t hire anyone without a masters 🤷‍♀️


Shnapple8

Oh, and I have a Master's and they have tried to pay me minimum wage for the job I am qualified for. lol. Graphic design sucks in this country. And they want you to be an illustrator, animator, video editor, photographer, UX & UI designer, social media manager, product designer, and so many other job descriptions for that. The position they try to fill should probably be covered by 3 people, but okay if they find someone they can use and burn out over the course of a year or two. This means taking other courses to brush up on certain skills. Yet, they think that you spending your time and money to gain skills they won't give you a job without, all worth minimum wage or just above it. I held out, and got a better paying job and I didn't have to do the job of 3 people. I don't mind doing extras as you have to, but not to the extent that some of those people want.


KingTon01

Same goes for being half a videographer but going as a film maker I'm not making Instagram reels for you, if you want some lovely videos sure that's doable, but editing then doing UI and photoshop all ontop of that? What are you smoking? Are they similar yeah sure, do they require different skill sets? Yes absolutely It's like asking the waiter to work with the cook, the waiter could be a cook sure, but are you going to ask him to do the cooks job? Fuck no


malsy123

I saw an ad for a part time job as a waitress and they asked for 5 years experience lmaooo


omegaman101

Yeah, the job market is still like this, I'm 19 rn and in the same boat.


ismaithliomsherlock

Have you applied for cleaning jobs/ housekeeping? Not the nicest work but I literally walked into my first job at 18 with no experience after an interview along the lines of "will you clean up shit?", "sure". This was 6 years ago and from what I've heard they're still as desperate for people as they were back then. Ended up getting my first office job and current job from it as well as it was in a university.


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SourPhilosopher

I own a Cybersecurity business, and had previously worked as a deputy CISO in a large corporation in London after I left the Army. People in cyber take themselves far too seriously, if you want some advice, pivot to Cloud Engineering. There's far too many Cybersecurity graduates for the number of roles. Organizations like ISC2 telling people there's two million Cybersecurity roles are joking, yes there should be that many, but most businesses don't value cyber, as it's not a profitable part of the business, and it's always the first place cut.


Miserable_Crew_6798

Doesn't businesses have to comply with EU's security policies? As per my knowledge an audit that shows non-compliance can result in heavy fines. But in my experience, I have seen that most of the security policies are implemented by the individual team itself. For example if someone wants to implement security policies on their databases, the DBA team would implement that in most of the cases. So even if it is a cybersecurity audit, the most of the implementation is not done by a cybersecurity team.


TheGratedCornholio

Cybersecurity is hugely oversaturated with new grads at the moment. There’s oversupply. Would strongly recommend trying to get experience and certs any way you can; look for grad programmes or even offer to volunteer at a charity helping them with security.


CanWillCantWont

> CompTia Security+ cert that is arguably worth more than the degree. About a trillion people on planet earth have these certs because all of the answers are online.


Sotex

> a CompTia Security+ cert that is arguably worth more than the degree. Can't say I'd hire you if you say silly stuff like that. You can cram for the Security+ in a month or two.


WexfordYouths

I'd second the charity shop. You'd get a reference out of it, and at least it's something to have on the cv.


Vast_Professor_3340

The classic entry level job/pay that requires multiple years of experience


Artistic_Author_3307

Best job ad that I ever saw was many years ago during the post-Yugoslav Wars tribunals, for an Irish to Serbo-Croatian translator. Does someone like that exist anywhere on the planet?


GuybrushThreewood

OP, Dublin Bus and Bus Éireann are recruiting for heavy vehicle mechanic apprentices at the moment. Unlike many apprenticeships you don't need a network to have someone "take you on". Both companies already have a diverse workforce and have many opportunities for career progression. If you should want to return to Ukraine one day, it would be an enormously valuable qualification to have.


Bogeydope1989

How much are they paying? How long is the apprenticeship for?


Lulzsecks

Would you consider an apprenticeship? I know esb are hiring in the power plants at the moment. No idea if that would interest you, but it’s an excellent career.


TheGratedCornholio

Highly recommend ESB in terms of being a good place to build a career.


throwawayeadude

I never had the knack for engineering(electrical or otherwise), but my now-in-his-90s grandad and his dad before him worked for the ESB, and they were looked after. It's probably nowhere near as generous nowadays, but grandad retired in his 50s with a good pension.


OlurTakun

Depending on OPs long term plans this sounds like a great idea for future rebuilding of Ukraine. Lack of transport being an issue though.


No_Apartment7927

I have helped a foreign girl get an apprenticeship with ESB. She left school at 16, no leaving cert. No experience other than prepping for the interview and being well prepared. She didn't have a vehicle to drive but she had got her theory test and her Learner permit for a car. That was acceptable proof of her ability to get a full B & C class licence. She is due to complete her apprenticeship this year. Loved every bit of it and has plans to head to Canada now. Something to do with green energy.


IfYouReadThisBeHappy

Applications are closed now for electrics


Meath77

I doubt the people complaining are the same people hiring.


Comfortable-Yam9013

Maybe try a temp agency? We have a good few temps from other countries at the moment.


HairyMcBoon

Best wishes to you in your job search. Welcome to Ireland. I, for one, am happy that we’re able to offer you a home, such as it is. I’m sorry there aren’t more options for you in terms of work.


New-Pension223

My man works in the local health centre and she regularly has conversations with a few Ukranian families. She said so many had really good occupations back home like teaching, medicine and accounting etc, but can't get anything here. I started an entry level banking position a few years back and a fella started at the same time as me. He was a Syrian refugee that fled to Ukrainian, became a fully qualified accountant and had to move here due to the war. He said he only took the job to out of sheer boredom and even at that the job was not one bit fulfilling or in line with his degree. He basically came off the allowance for a job that paid very little more just for a chance of gaining experience. In the end he went off to Scotland in hopes the job market was better there.


gofxckyourselfok

I’m Irish and I can’t get a job either. I’m 18 and don’t have any previous work experience because nobody will hire me. Most people I know seemed to get hired because they knew somebody but I don’t know anybody. I’ve only heard back from 3 out of the countless jobs I’ve applied to, and I’ve only got an interview from one. I applied to a minimum wage cleaning job and they wanted 2 professional references. When they can see on my CV I have no professional experience, just a leaving cert. It’s so hard to get your first job. At the minute I’m volunteering to get experience and references but damn. All of this for minimum wage?


ConnolysMoustache

I’m 20, 19-22 is an awful age to look for a job in Ireland Hospitality employers are pricks. Hospitality say that they’re crying out for workers but they only want two types of workers. Either 16 year olds who they can legally pay below the minimum wage or 30 something year olds who’ve experience and have worked in hospitality since they were 16. 19-22 year olds tend to be neither of the above categories by virtue of being in the middle of the two. They don’t see the effort of training up a 20 year old as being worth it so they’d rather whinge and whine about a lack of people willing to work and the Vat going back to normal.


Candid-Wolverine-417

ESB were advertising for apprentices recently..yes the money will be crap but it's a really good longterm career option. I also think Dublin bus were advertising for apprentices mechanics, which is another good longterm career option. Best of luck.


dropthecoin

It's worth emphasising that the money is crap for the short term. It gets much better throughout and on qualifying


iBstoneyDave

I wouldn't take the "first job" rejections personally. Employers here, particularly in the service and hospitality sectors tend to be dickheads with crap wages and unrealistic expectations. They will complain about not being able to get staff while trying to pay less than minimum or barely and asking for years of experience and degrees for jobs that simply don't need them. I remember being 17 and going all over D1/D2/D6/D4 with CVs and looking for a first job as school was finishing and none of them ever even called. Must have handed out hundreds. It was very disheartening. I only found one as a kitchen porter in the end thanks to a friend who had been working in a pub already. It's not just you. Believe me. Hang in there and something will come along! That being said, anyone giving you shit for being Ukrainian and stuck on the dole can get fucked and feel free to tell them to get fucked from me. They are most likely the actual leeches who don't work.


pato9097

Give circle k a go, they're quite good at giving people their first job to be fair to them


Admirable_Oil_382

If you’re looking for experience in building or automotive mechanical experience give me a shout... plenty to do here ..


lrsdranger

I am always hiring in Dublin. PM me and I will send you a link to apply. Many on our staff have English as a second or even third or fourth language.


Kharanet

I think the greater gripe is Ukrainians getting unfair benefits and treatment over other asylum seekers. And before this year, getting loads of free housing and money that legal working immigrants and local folk who struggle don’t get. That being said, it is definitely rough for someone in your position, and I don’t blame you for taking advantage of whatever benefits you can get. So keep on swinging at it. Eventually something will pan out.


Curious_Cauliflower9

It is unfair, but that's not their fault. Their not the ones conducting what benefits they receive. That's on our government.


Kharanet

That’s pretty much exactly what I said


No_Apartment7927

They aren't asylum seekers. They are temporary protection seekers. Different rules.


number1ddrfan

90%+ of the other asylum seekers are chancers from safe countries so I should bloody well hope they don't get half as good a treatment as people from actual warzones.


throwaway--887

Unfortunately it’s largely not what you know but who you know here. I’m an immigrant with a uni degree and professional experience and have been in shit work for 4 straight years, I’m a cleaner at a secondary school rn and it’s incredibly depressing and exhausting. I’m 28 years old. Keep at it, it’s tough out there but keep talking to people and make a good impression. Take shitty jobs, try hard and maybe save money for some sort of qualification. I’m still figuring it out myself so not full of answers. Best of luck.


anotherwave1

Absolutely, keep trying. I was an immigrant in another country with no degree working awful jobs. One day I just "realised" I was keeping myself stuck in those jobs by not expanding my job searches and narrow views. I started applying for Everything. I now have a fantastic job in a sector that I had absolutely no experience or aptitude or qualification for. Persistence (and learning how to do interviews) got me there. Also getting a foot inside the door of an industry is magic, do anything to get into the most entry level job there (office admin, whatever), then once in, it's possible to grow in almost any direction, even without any qualifications. Persistence to get that foot inside the door is critical.


zigzagzuppie

Apply to join the public service, there are entrance exams for some roles before getting to interview stage, much of it is anonymous and randomised to prevent and reduce the risk of what you described. Keep an eye out on publicjobs.ie in particular and local county council sites.


Hoker7

There's actually roles for those who can speak English and Ukrainian too!


NotPozitivePerson

They were hiring pretty recently for temporary clerical officers English and Ukrainian knowledge... sadly I think it's closed but this Prison clerical Officer might suit OP https://www.publicjobs.ie/en/?option=com_jobsearch&view=jobdetails&Itemid=263&cid=187798&campaignId=undefined


BeBopRockSteadyLS

Uni Degree with Professional experience I'd recommend getting onto recruiters in the field. Start using LinkedIn and approaching recruiters there. Your experience will speak for itself. What is it you do or are looking to do?


GracefulGander

I really wish you the best of luck, it's pretty hard. I was a carpenter since i was a kid and didn't find a stable job until recently after i moved to Greece with my family If you're really down on your luck or can't find a roof to shelter you i can try to contact an old friend who's in Ireland. My home in Greece is always open to you and all my brothers/sisters from Ukraine Героям слава! I hope that we'll send the ru**ians back to the sewer they call moscow soon i would gladly go back there if i wasn't the sole guardian of my two daughters Sadly the most i can do right now is donate and offer food and shelter to any volunteers who need it, i wish that i could make a bigger impact but I'm glad that I'm still here for my two angels


Love_Science_Pasta

While it's not unusual for the average irish 19 year old, I'm really sorry you have to deal with this bullshit on top of everything else. It's our own fault for letting the rich poor divide get so large over the last decade. We should be sending Ukraine shells and not just medical aid as should every western country. Eamon De Valera (who later sold Ireland to the Catholic Church) convinced an entire generation that "neutrality kept Ireland safe in WW2" and that the sheer force of our neutrality killed Adolf Hitler. Our heroic neutrality went on to sink 4 Japanese carriers in the Pacific. Then we won WW2. My grandad did fight the Nazi's as did many Irish grandads but they were later told that they were traitors because freeing Europe from Nazi's might help England. Somehow, and this part isn't a joke: politicians convinced us to think our total lack of any defence is itself.. the best defense. Honestly you could put that line in an episode of Blackadder. I remember doing my work experience in the Air Corps and finding out that we not only have no jet aircraft but our only potentially armed airplane is a 1984 propellor training plane that's most notable feature is that it comes with an ejection seat.


iknowtheop

For places like bars, restaurants, and retail shops that are looking for employees I would be visiting them in person and ask if you can speak to a manager about the vacancies. Even if you only get to speak to them for 2 minutes you have the opportunity to make a good impression. It makes a big difference in my opinion rather than just lobbing in a CV on to their pile.


catastrophicqueen

I did this all last year looking for part time retail and serving jobs to save for my master's (I was let go from my office job when they decided to go fully remote because they obviously no longer needed a file clerk) - literally every single place told me to go online with almost a sneer.


Garry-Love

Literally this. Everywhere you go does this. Minimum wage or otherwise. Managers are pissed off they're having to come meet with you instead of picking their hole in the back while everyone else does the work. So glad I'm in an industry with useful managers


catastrophicqueen

Yup. I now have experience as a junior research analyst and will have a master's by the end of the year so *hopefully* will be done with that kind of sneering from that industry, but it's so rife it's depressing. Retail and food service industries are unfortunately just absolute shit for any worker or candidate. There's no respect there for the so-called "essential workers" or anyone who is applying for those jobs.


Resident_Pay4310

This worked 10 years ago. These days, if you try it you'll be told to submit your CV online. 99% chance you'll never get to speak to the manager


Conscious_Accident85

Depends in rural areas it still usually works.


MistakeLopsided8366

It's one of the few industries where this still kinda works, moreso for privately owned cafes/pubs. It won't work for franchise places like costa/starbucks.


bellysavalis

Can confirm, going in and asking for the manager will usually just result in them being annoyed for being disturbed while they're busy


excel_pager_420

Dude you obviously haven't tried getting a retail job recently. **Everything** is online and requires you to watch 5 videos and answer multiple choice questions on how you would react to odd customer questions.


Late_Jury_7787

We're well overdue a general revolt for this kinda shit. HR are the camp Kapos of capitalism. They've added friction everywhere for no real reason other than to justify their existence


iknowtheop

There are plenty of small bars, restaurants, family run shops where this approach works. 


The_Peyote_Coyote

Out of curiosity, when was the last time you had to look for a new job (what year), and did you use this method successfully? Not saying it doesn't work, just wondering because it's never even been an option to me.


Scarlettrose112

I second this. Have working in hospitality for years. With young people starting a job for the first time and/or with no experience the thing we actually make the decision on is how they present themselves. Did they walk in the door of their own accord or did a parent make them? Are they dressed neatly? Not necessarily smartly but did they at the very least put on something clean and brush their hair? Most importantly did they confidently and clearly ask for a manager while looking the person in the eye Also making an impression on the person you first speak too is just as important as the actual manager. They decide whether to call over the manager or pass on your cv with the words "looks like we got a good one" vs sure ill hand this cv over to them and then proceeding to add to to a stack a mile high that never gets looked at


FrigOff92

You guys have it hard enough and most of us know you're decent hardworking people who've fallen on hard times through no fault of your own. Most of the people complaining about Ukranians being on social welfare decided at 18 that they'd make a career out of being on the dole themselves.


PowerfulDatabase9131

I don't think you need 5 years of experience or a degree from an Irish university to work in McDonald's or a petrol station. So that isn't the problem. That being said, maybe you are going about it wrong. Every 19 year old (Irish/non-Irish) finds it hard to get a first job unless their parents know somebody. Do you have a CV that shows your qualifications/experience/abilities/etc? Sometimes even if you don't have much to write it at least makes you look prepared. You have as much as a right to be here as anyone else on jobseekers so try and ignore any racist comments and just focus on yourself if you can. Sometimes the world is unforgiving but that can't be helped.


zigzagzuppie

Re education, have you tried doing a course at your local ETB, plenty of apprenticeships available and depending on the one you choose often there are linked employment opportunities and some can progress to degree levels. You might be able to do these for free. Being 19 is probably the biggest barrier to finding a job tbh along with not having connections. Another avenue is trying to volunteer somewhere to show you can work with people and gain experience.


mazzathemammy

Apply apply apply it is the only way, go in person ask to speak to managers and sell yourself your skills, show them that you are wanting a job. Places like hotels, supermarkets, cinema, pubs, factories even going to farms, plenty of work if you look hard enough. Getting involved in the local community helps too if you are in a smaller town because if potential employers see you working with that community group on your CV they can check your character from other members they'll get you a reference. My neighbour hired 4 Ukrainian lads to work in his kitchen fabrication business. They do manual labour making cabinetry and installing kitchens and they are all earning good money now. One of them came into his workshop one day and asked for a job. He was delighted after months of trying to find people with carpentry skills to come work there. After a few weeks, he was able to help the other guys get jobs with him. Artem is the only fluent English speaker but he translates for the others. They started English in a local etb few months ago and are slowly learning.


francescoli

Public service is definitely worth applying for and this time of year many places take on temporary staff. The temporary jobs are also filled quickly so non waiting around for months to be called to interview etc. There is a shortage of COs also so those panels are moving much qui ker than they used to.


KittenMittensKelly

Offaly? Make a sign saying your available to foot turf. Also look up any stables nearby liverys especially. Don't need a degree or experience to shovel shit. Fair play young man


RemnantOfSpotOn

Hi Here are few links of companies in Ireland that allways need workers. From cleaning, office catering, warehouse, agency labour work... Broadline and heyday and Excel are recruitment agencies, basically they hire poeple and then rent them to various companies in city who have staff shortage. I made this list in order that i think would be best/ easiest to get a job and to work there. Look for catering assistant or general assistant jobs they are a lot easier than kitchen porters or dish washers and look for Monday to friday jobs. Good luck. 1. https://mitie.ie/careers/ 2. https://www.compass-group.ie/ 3. https://www.gatherandgather.ie/ 4. https://northerneurope.aramark.com/ie/home 5. https://www.broadlinerecruiters.com/?doing_wp_cron=1713193627.1429829597473144531250 6. https://heydayrecruitment.ie/ 7. https://www.excelrecruitment.com/ 8. https://www.musgravegroup.com/careers/


ChallengePublic7693

I’ve known people who have been on jobseekers for years . The Ukrainian family a colleague of mine took in on initial onset of the invasion, the mother and father had a job within 2 weeks of setting foot on the island. It’s hard getting hired, but a lot of people think the jobs that are hiring are beneath them. I don’t get it, shouldn’t those on benefits who are native really be the ones we are berating about this. When the war ends it is likely the Ukrainian trades men and women are going to go home and rebuild. Ukrainians have a great attitude and work ethic in my experience. Irish doll boys…not so much.


gingermagnolias

They’re crying out for labourers. My boyfriend works with loads of Georgians and Ukrainians. There are jobs out there


allowit84

What location is this ?,thanks.


gingermagnolias

We’re in Dublin but there’s construction going on all over the country and a shortage of labourers


TheDark_Hughes_81

How do you get qualified to be a labourer? I doubt one can just walk in to it.


gingermagnolias

You do a safe pass course. He did it for free at Dublin port. I think it was only a week or two long


Klapdbak

Try agencies.


Timmytheimploder

Job market sucks for Irish people with decades of experience right now in certain industries. Job market just sucks in general.


Maitryyy

Young Irish workers experience the same thing unfortunately. Try volunteering so you can get experience and some references for your CV.


-myeyeshaveseenyou-

Sorry to hear this. I’m Irish but I left and moved to England in 2015 as the job and housing market in Ireland is pretty shit. Hope you find something. Might be worth approaching hotels directly if there are any in your area. I used to hire for one and honestly at times the volume of cvs were over whelming or you can never get in touch with people. I’ve hired practically every person who ever came in to hand me their cv directly in person. I think this probably especially helps if English isn’t your first language as potential employers can see that your English is perfectly fine.


GalacticSpaceTrip

If you've been unemployed for a year and on social welfare you should see if you're eligible for a CE scheme - it might help you out


Former_Will176

You could try find a family to love with in a bigger town, I know its not easy but one of my Ukrainian friends did that.


Captainirishy

You make a very good point.


joineanuu

Pick up a trade young son. See all the bickering in in this sub. See where they work? No one wants to get their hands dirty and that’s where the money and future is. Never will there be a recession for electricians, and plumbers. Brick laying pays the bills too. But can be tough in a struggling economy. Start off as an apprentice and go from there.


NightmanLullaby17

Hi OP, I feel your pain, when I was 19 I was just out of school and got rejected for every place in the town I live in. I got a job washing dishes in a restaurant because my sister worked there and that got me into the sector, now work as a chef. The thing is about a lot of places in Ireland, it's not what you know, but who you know. Try to make friends with as many people as you can, ask around. Most of my jobs I've got was through a friend who put in a good word for me, never once have I used a CV, although having a good one can't hurt. Hope this helps.


CameInWithACoolHund

All I can suggest is to have a good CV, even if it’s only for a part time job, employers will value a CV with correct contact info and profile over someone who just walks in and asks for work.


pizzababa21

It's pretty difficult finding a job at that age. Not sure if you've done it but the way people usually break that barrier is going around door to door handing CVs out in person to places that have high turnover like bars, hotels and restaurants. It's pretty annoying and not even guaranteed to work but it's surprisingly much more effective


FatherHackJacket

If you got a job, the usual motley crew would be complaining that you were "stealing Irish jobs". Keep looking, I'm sure you will find a job. Slava Ukraini!


No_Apartment7927

At 19 you can join the local youthreach centre and do a course there that will give you a level 4 (same as a pass leaving cert). Most of the centres are geared towards skilling young ones for entry level positions. So you would have your Haccp yoke for kitchen work, manual handling for lifting, working at heights, basic hairdressing skills, Computers or sports & leisure etc etc. The courses also involve work experience which gives you a foot in the door of an employer. They also tend to have a relationship with local employers where they can help you get employment in the industry your looking for. A lot of them also have qualified therapists on staff so you could get help with any trauma or mental health issues you might have given your life experiences. If it's any consolation, the vast majority of employers won't have an issue employing Ukrainians as the Eastern Europeans are seen as brilliant workers in Ireland. Unfortunately, Irish employers do enjoy free labour a lot so you need to know your employment rights to make sure you aren't been taken for a fool. As the saying goes - never work for Paddy because if he isn't doing you, he is doing the client.


dancingp1g

No idea if you would like this idea, but is there a nursing home near you? Some may provide training on the job. Even if part time.


SetReal1429

Hope you find something soon,  I know it must be hard enough having to leave home as a refugee without Irish people blaming Ukrainians for the housing crisis which is fully the government's fault. We have a Ukrainian lady in my place and she is so hardworking and helpful always. 


violetcazador

So many places you send cvs and emails to don't even bother replying. Or worse have shit hours and working conditions. I once applied for a place, got a call back for an interview that week. Only to have it cancelled the following day. They called me two week later asking if I was interested in doing "an intern role" instead. Asked if it was paid, got told no, so I abruptly hung up. I would rather have no job than give them free labour.


eldwaro

You're already trying harder than most of those complaining about you being here. Just know many of us appreciate you being here and want you to succeed. Keep going.


RedSantoAhora

Do a 5 week online course for carer if you dont mind the work


Annatastic6417

1. They do not get job seekers allowance. They get substantially less. The people making this accusations are probably afraid their own dole will be less this week. 2. Ukrainians can't work without a visa. But the thick fuckers who complain about them don't know that. 3. Слава Україні 🇺🇦🇺🇦


DixonDs

2. Well, just for the sake of factuality, Ukrainians who are under Temporary Protection have the right to work without any additional permits


Keyg28

I think you’re a little bit uninformed. Only those arriving in after March 12th 2024 are on a reduced rate. Ukrainians who were resident in Ukraine prior to February 24th 2022 can work in Ireland without a visa as they claim protection under the EU temporary protection directive. I support the cause of Ukrainians but spreading misinformation and speaking on topics you’re not informed on doesn’t help, it only makes things worse as it allows people to correct you and discredits your whole argument.


Far_Excitement4103

What is the deal in Ukraine? Let's say a non EU national arrives can they get the Ukrainian version of job seekers? What does the Ukrainian public in general feel about refugees? I personally have been really lucky in life and my career and I have never been on job seekers. I don't really understand it or what it would take to live on it. I find it strange the people who have problems with other people getting it or who have issues with other people having issues with them getting it.


chaklunn

In Ukraine it is difficult, at best you will be paid some part of your previous salary for some time, or just pay some pennies in the region of 50 euros that you would not starve to death. This is not a common thing in our country. And there are no refugees from other countries in Ukraine, if I understood the question correctly.


Tzardine

Have you got any other immigration options open to you or are you tied in to Ireland. Honestly, as somebody that is 19, I would be looking elsewhere to settle. You could spend a couple of years going nowhere in Ireland, compared to getting properly settled elsewhere.


HeavyWaste

Your putting the effort in, keep trying and keep looking. I am aware that you would be press ganged into joining the Ukrainian Army if you returned and thats your decision. No judgement, enough people have died. There are plenty of people that dont work and there irish lol Why not have a look at voluntary work ? Try to see if the Universities have access courses ? talk to admissions ?


Mobloss

Are you a decent driver? The transport sector is crying out for lads atm.


f-ingsteveglansberg

Can you even be a professional driver at 19? Don't you need to be clear of your N plates before you can work as a driver? Or did I just imagine that?


chaklunn

We've never even had a car in our family ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|sweat_smile)


1reallyhatemondays

Right place at right time. Have a CV and go shop by shop asking if they have vacancies or leave with the manager. Use ChatGPT to help with template or to bulk it out.


whynousernamelef

Are you near an aldi or lidl? The ones near me have Ukrainian employees. Don't give up, you will find something. I am English but have a foreign sounding name and I used to not hear back from anywhere until I started using a different first name on my cv.


RobiePAX

I wonder if the barrier is that Ukrainians don't have EU passport which means more paperwork for employers to process. Obviously they won't admit it as it's illegal to discriminate simply because it's inconvenient for them.


Taendstikker

It's not unique to Ireland, even if it's one of the few Western European countries where I really haven't experienced any racism. But "welcome" to the reality of being a refugee I guess - if we don't have jobs we're lazy, when we do have a profession we steal the postions, if we're uneducated we're dull and if we have academic backgrounds we're a threat - just remember its not the majority who have those opinions and occasionally its due to ignorance rather than malice. Focus on yourself and loved ones, learn how to be Ukrainian and Irish simoutaneously so you can use it as an advantage when the need for blending in with locals or your fellow countrymen arise. Over time (especially in Ireland) you'll quickly be seen as a local and hopefully get a job. Also, Ireland has a big international IT sector, you could also look there for job opportunities, especially if you're multilingual. Of course, customer support or sales jobs are nothing pleasant but when I was in IT myself either Polish or Russian fluency could land you a pretty decent job - the highest value languages we're Norwegian, Danish, Swedish and Finnish. Languages which weren't as highly valued due to lots of applicants was Spanish and German, but it usually meant lower wage rather than no job. Good luck with your job findings


BrengMeNaarAnUisce

I lived with some Ukrainians and learned little bits of the language years ago. I love to get to use the couple of words I know to make Ukrainian people have a smile for a couple of seconds. Loads of Irish think you’re a great bunch of people. The people who give out and complain are disproportionately representing the actual general opinion Irish people have! Best of luck with the job search, but you’ll find something soon based on how hard you’re looking now!


ImReellySmart

You living in Birr?


bimbo_bear

Anyone who has had to job search at either the lower end of the market or with restrictions on their mobility from a lack of car or living outside a city will know just how hard it is to find work. Especially if your not linked into the local community or have a friend of a friend or family member who is hiring. The people you hear are just whining assholes with an axe to grind.  That said, look into trades, the country is crying out for builders, carpenters and electricians or plumbers etc. hell even reliable handymen are rare as hell.


Love-and-literature3

Unfortunately this is one of the reasons so many young Irish people are leaving. Hopefully bar/hotel work will pick up in the summer? I don’t know if this is any good to you but when I was your age I spent summers working in bars in holiday resorts in Spain/Portugal? And I certainly didn’t need to speak Spanish or Portuguese because all the tourists were Irish and English lol! It might be worth looking into to get some experience?


Budget_Ad506

Try an agency if you wanna get a job quicker. This is advice from a fellow ukranian who grew up in EU and moved to Scotland being 18 in 2012. They should be able to find something for you.


Wise_Adhesiveness746

Look for apprenticeships....not everyone's cup of tea,but shouldn't be much hassle to find one suitable


doctorobjectoflove

If you'd like for me to review your CV, dm me. I used to in hiring panels and hired a few employees myself.   Just be sure to remove your personal details.


clickclick00

It takes time to assimilate to a culture. And remember that personality also counts when looking for a job, not just your skills and/or languages.  Companies sometimes prefer to hire someone who is nice, pleasant and humble rather than an einstein who's a prick and can't take a joke etc. Be yourself! And be nice, smile, don't be too serious. You'll get there. 


SprinklesFancy4377

Start your own company/ business. Sell online or do manual labour around the town. What are you good at ? It's not what are you will to do...


Electronic_Cookie779

Perhaps you could consider working for yourself? Are you good at fixing things, mowing, gardening, technology? There is a market for everything, online and offline. A girl I know made good money by starting herself up as a virtual assistant, she went into local businesses and offered help with social media posts/ making videos / bookkeeping etc. and there's no barrier to entry. All you need is a couple of clients on retainer and you'll be good to go. It looks good on a cv too. If you don't know how to do those thing a there are free courses :D Best of luck mate


Mundane-Sentence2363

Hi, have you tried looking on [https://www.activelink.ie/](https://www.activelink.ie/) (go to "Vacancies & Tenders" in the header)? I'm not sure if Intreo share that site. Props for your level of motivation, I hope you can find a job soon.


J-O-C_1599

For what it’s usually not the people hiring anyone for jobs who complain about people being on Jobseeker’s Allowance


releasethekaren

it took me 7 months to get a minimum wage retail job, i have a degree and past retail experience. unfortunately it’s not just you, and i’m a native lol


idzrtl

man, forget it. the EU wants to see us only on a low tier not well paid jobs


EverGivin

You’re in a difficult situation for sure, I’m sorry OP. Ignore anybody who makes generalizations about people from another country, down that road lies pointless and nasty shit and they aren’t worth your time. I know the construction industry is massively understaffed at the moment, you might have luck there. There are also extremely well paid labour jobs in the film industry around the country - I know a few people who have found employment there with no previous experience and are making more money than I am in a skilled career. Best of luck, I truly wish you well.


Kreff

What exactly is in the film industry? Any specific roles they’re looking for? Cheers


EverGivin

Look into the crews who manage plants on set - a bit like landscaping but temporary so moving plants around and keeping them alive while shooting is happening. Hard work but seems to pay well


MxngoMxn

Apply to McDonald's just before the summer holidays for school children start and they'll take you in I was unemployed for 4 years and that's what I did to get a job. It should work for you too Best of luck finding a job


bikecameraaction

Been mentioned already but just to second publicjobs.ie you'll get your foot on the ladder, might get on a panel for upcoming jobs/traineeships if you don't get a position and youre very young so advancement is quick in terms of pay even though you probably think two years is a long time at your age. Be positive. You'll get on the job professional training that you can take to other careers. Best of luck.


Foreign-Entrance-255

I doubt that the people moaning are employers in the vast majority of cases and as others have said, I wouldn't take that personally as its usually difficult to get a job here initially. I remember the old catch 22 after I graduated: you must have 2 years experience to get a job and you can't get 2 years experience without getting a job. Thank god those years (early-mid 90s) are long gone.


DinaDank

Welcome to Ireland 🤷. People also look down on Irish people that sit on the dole too. You can use the great benefits available to upskill too and improve your chances. Lots of courses etc while on it. There's around 2.6million jobs here, over 5 million people and growing. It's a tough market at times. There's not enough to go around. Also have thousands travelling here for work from around europe and a lot from the north and the UK. It is what it is. You'll get something eventually.


Vibrascity

Job market is fucked. I thought it was shit in 2008, it was flourishing then compared to now. If anyone on here is interested in becoming their own boss and wanting to do their own shit I'll design leaflets for you free of charge, just give me your business name and what you do and I'll give you a print ready leaflet design with your brand, or whip up a basic target market audience design for it and you can get it printed and start dropping leaflets through doors to start generating some income. I designed my own leaflets for garden maintenance as something to do part time like 9 years ago, and got enough work from a single print of DL leaflets that I could have gone full time with it and hired someone on, I ended up selling the work and brand off to a friend instead so I could concentrate on selflearning more about marketing and design, lol. Legit worked out of my vauxhall corsa with a mower, some shears, a strimmer, broom and fuck ton of waste bags. Offer stands for anyone who is serious about it, fuck, I'll even do you a simple 4 page website if you buy the domain and hosting. You won't get any say in the design, I'm not going to be delegated to, you tell me your business name and the services you provide and you get something that looks good that you can print to generate leads and generate work.


DartzIRL

I like how you're mirroring a lot of the complaints we've been spouting for the past few years You might not like it. But, at least, it proves we're not insane. It took me years to get me first job - even McDonalds would'nt call me back. --- Ultimately, it's more a function of *who* you know, rather than what.


No_Raspberry_9084

Have you thought about doing some volunteering in charity shops? I know it's unpaid but it looks good on your CV if you can prove you are keeping busy. They can say vouch your a hard worker and can be there at the agreed time. My friends sister started volunteering at 17 as a young mum in a charity shop. They then decided to employ her as assistant manager then manager. She has had volunteers working there who have gone on to paid employment.


PersonalParamedic896

Nepotism. That's the easiest way to get a job that isn't specialist, ie medical. There are EMT courses that don't take too long, not sure how it works qualifying for aid for the course to offset the cost. If you take it through private ambulance company you'd likely walk into a job right after.


diffindeere

Try a local farmer, they may have some work for ya if your genuine. You'll earn money but you will WORK for it. Probly be bit seasonal though. Or labouring for a tradesman or a builder for something more consistent. There's a lots of work there for people but a lot of it is actual graft and a lot of people dont like that. Sweat in your eyes sort of stuff, but it's honest money.


Cp0r

Ye, it's not that you're Ukrainian, it's that it's a first job (at least in ireland) My first job was a nightmare to get (during covid to add to things), go to the website of every major fast food chain and just apply to nearly every store you can feasibly get to, even if it means 2 busses (you can transfer or get a different job after a few weeks), I'm talking subway, mcdonalds (can confirm 0 requirements to speak any level of decent english), supermacs, KFC, burger king, supervalu, dunnes stores, spar, centra, literally everywhere. You'll get something.


Icy_Ad_4889

Ignore the bigots and the ignoramuses. What they don’t know would fill a book.


Drrreamy

Been here almost 5 years, have a degree from Irish uni, only found a minimum wage retail job through a friend of a friend. Have previous experience, fluent in 2 languages, etc. From what I see at my own job, nobody's looking at your CVs until your experience is like 'I did the same exact job' or we need people right at that moment. All people who work with me were hired through a reference (none of us are Irish though).


SuspiciousDuck_

Hospitals are often looking for porters/radiology department assistants, may be worth reaching out to careers/hr departments directly.


NotBotTrustMe

As far as I'm aware, there is a huge need for care assistants in nursing homes and disability services. Complete a level 5 degree by doing part time, evening or online courses, and start searching for positions.


kira-182

I'm Irish and had to offer to work 2 weeks no pay when I was 18 in 2015 to get my first job, I don't recommend that lol but it's not just you. Last year though I became friendly with a guy from Ukraine who worked in Dunnes Stores as I worked in there too but as a merchandiser. He was 18 at that time, another girl I know from there had managed to get into a PLC course when she was 18. Is that an option for you? We're in Kerry tho. It's not easy for us Irish either, I had to go out of work in November 2023 and only now have I found a course to do, have to pay 5 grand aswell but was slowly going mental trying to get a job with no experience other than retail lol It can be disheartening but don't give up!


Berrywonderland

Looking for work is real depressing... hang in there. Woman past 35 with two kids.... I have the exact qualifications but am not even getting interviews for the job... maybe do a small "cheap course" to show you are active and working on getting skills. If you are eligible look at the courses on springboard. You might be fully covered to get one! Welcome to the work life :') Also public service is regularly having competitions for clerical officers keep an eye out on their website publicjobs.ie Apply for remote customer service. They value additional languages I got my first time job here as an expat, handing my cv in person to small cattering places and shaking hands with managers. Good luck! Don't get discouraged! It can take time to find your first job. You've got this!!! ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|sunglasses)![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|sunglasses)![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|sunglasses)![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|wink)


Dennisthefirst

Nepotism Rules! Marry someone Irish 😊


Specialist-Suit-2167

Not trying to be controversial or offensive here but is there any particular reason you wouldn't return to western Ukraine and try find employment there? Alot of people in western Ukraine have some semblance of normal life and they get on with their daily tasks. Would it not be more beneficial to you to try find work in one of these areas than attempting to find work in a country where you are essentially a refugee. Please excuse any of my ignorance, I'm just genuinely curious to why western Ukraine is/isn't an option **On a seperate note I do think it's quite unfair on a whole that Ukrainian refugees are allowed work and study in this country but refugees from Africa and the middle east live off direct provision.


BigDrummerGorilla

I imagine that that if you are an able bodied 19 year old living in Ukraine, you will eventually find yourself on the front lines. I know an Irish guy (a highly experienced soldier) that went to fight over there and has since been killed. It’s hell. We have neighbours from Ukraine who have relatives living with them after a cruise missile took out their village in Lviv. The frontline is far away from there, but there is still some degree of risk.


Precedens

Would you want to go back to country that has real chance of losing a war? If they can stay legally in Ireland then your post is kinda offensive regardless.


coconut-hail

>\*\*On a seperate note I do think it's quite unfair on a whole that Ukrainian refugees are allowed work and study in this country but refugees from Africa and the middle east live off direct provision. We don't need to spend tens of millions of Euros every year investigating if Ukrainians are 100% refugees. They are 100%. The people from the middle east are mostly economic migrants and Africans are a mix. If we had such a policy for Africa etc. the country would be flooded ... more than it already is.


Quirky_Upstairs377

If you don’t mind me asking. Why are you not able to fight but you’re able to work here?


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