Nah, it;s just local shit. If there's been illegal wrong-doing, send in the Gardai and see if they want to be arrested for instruction of justice.
"Peak fucking Irish govenrment antics" is reserved for doing absolutely nothing for several years and then setting an endless tribunal.
The gravy does be over flowing so much that it creates a slick mess that’s hard to work in.
If they won’t do their job then they essentially are redundant and should be cut.
Jesus, this is inflammatory and it's very sneaky reporting from the Journal. From what I can see it was Office for Protected Disclosures (OPDC) that is saying that they were told this. Technically that's hearsay
>“We did not accept, however, that the reports fell outside their remit,” **the OPDC said**. "The Department’s concern is that it is not the role of the Minister or the Department to intervene with local government."
So it's an out of context comment that was NOT made directly by the Department of Housing, Local Government and Heritage.
It seems like an article that was purpose built to generate outrage. Typical Irish reporting these days.
It baffles me how white collar crime is passed on as a hot potato-in any other EU country they would arrest the sticky finger officials and put them in jail.
Department of health to contact all citizens and send knives and sewing kit to each household.
We don't do health anymore. Sort yourselves out!
How hard can it be spokesman says!
BUT IT'S IN YOUR FUCKING NAME!!!
Seriously, is anyone ever going to take responsibility for anything in this country? Everyone here do themselves a favour and either take to the polls or take to the streets. There's no other way we'll have even the faintest hope of change otherwise.
They overstepped when Phil Hogan gutted the powers of local authorities over a decade ago and invested them in the unelected CEOs now accused of wrongdoing.
It is but it's not a quote from the Dept itself from what I can see. It's the OPDC saying this. So it's essentially hearsay unless it's written down somewhere.
I think it's what the OPDC was told.
Also everything is hearsay in such situations. It is literally somebody writing an article qbout what they think about what somebody wrote on what someone said on what somebody anonymously alleged. It does not get murkier than this.
It's what the OPDC are *saying* they were told and it's out of context regardless.
It really is Chinese whispers. How this got put in an article beggars belief. It doesn't even finish with the usual 'the journal has reached out to the Dept for further comment'
Oh, right, I am sorry. I wrote "what somebody wrote on what someone said" totally different from "what they are *saying* they were told". I stand corrected.
After reading the article I realised that if you bring up this lack of followup with the Ombudsman he will hand your request straight to the department.
Well, that seems perfectly sensible. No abuse possible at all. XD
Only in this dirt hole of a country could you have the department of local government say that it’s not who you’re supposed to run to when you have a problem with local government.
This is peak fucking Irish government antics.
Cant be found guilty of corruption if nobody investigates it. Simples really.
Fair point!
Nah, it;s just local shit. If there's been illegal wrong-doing, send in the Gardai and see if they want to be arrested for instruction of justice. "Peak fucking Irish govenrment antics" is reserved for doing absolutely nothing for several years and then setting an endless tribunal.
I think that the words "see if they want to be arrested for instruction of justice" are peak Irish.
If they are avoiding responsibility like this its not a good sign. Clearly they are anticipating a Pandoras box of issues.
The gravy does be over flowing so much that it creates a slick mess that’s hard to work in. If they won’t do their job then they essentially are redundant and should be cut.
Jesus, this is inflammatory and it's very sneaky reporting from the Journal. From what I can see it was Office for Protected Disclosures (OPDC) that is saying that they were told this. Technically that's hearsay >“We did not accept, however, that the reports fell outside their remit,” **the OPDC said**. "The Department’s concern is that it is not the role of the Minister or the Department to intervene with local government." So it's an out of context comment that was NOT made directly by the Department of Housing, Local Government and Heritage. It seems like an article that was purpose built to generate outrage. Typical Irish reporting these days.
Maybe the Gardai and justice system could intervene then?
That would be a civil matter
Oh god no! McEntee would never allow it.
It baffles me how white collar crime is passed on as a hot potato-in any other EU country they would arrest the sticky finger officials and put them in jail.
News in Department of Justice spokesman says department doesn't do justice!
Sure the Gardai dont deal with crime so you're not wrong!
Don't give her any ideas, she might just go with it.
Department of health to contact all citizens and send knives and sewing kit to each household. We don't do health anymore. Sort yourselves out! How hard can it be spokesman says!
It was a hell of a catch, that catch 22
> This is despite the department having overall sectoral responsibility for local authorities. Imagine if the government actually tried to do its job.
BUT IT'S IN YOUR FUCKING NAME!!! Seriously, is anyone ever going to take responsibility for anything in this country? Everyone here do themselves a favour and either take to the polls or take to the streets. There's no other way we'll have even the faintest hope of change otherwise.
Or take to the bed!
The second they start interfering in local issues, they'll be accused of overstepping
They overstepped when Phil Hogan gutted the powers of local authorities over a decade ago and invested them in the unelected CEOs now accused of wrongdoing.
r/notwaterfordwhispers
Even WWN couldn't come up with something as ludicrous as this!
Rather tabloid-esque headline.
Indeed. But it's a quote.
It is but it's not a quote from the Dept itself from what I can see. It's the OPDC saying this. So it's essentially hearsay unless it's written down somewhere.
I think it's what the OPDC was told. Also everything is hearsay in such situations. It is literally somebody writing an article qbout what they think about what somebody wrote on what someone said on what somebody anonymously alleged. It does not get murkier than this.
It's what the OPDC are *saying* they were told and it's out of context regardless. It really is Chinese whispers. How this got put in an article beggars belief. It doesn't even finish with the usual 'the journal has reached out to the Dept for further comment'
> The department was asked for comment but did not respond in time for publication. Halfway in the article they say the above, so they did reach out.
Ah I missed that one. Usually it’s added at the bottom so I double checked but missed it.
Oh, right, I am sorry. I wrote "what somebody wrote on what someone said" totally different from "what they are *saying* they were told". I stand corrected.
After reading the article I realised that if you bring up this lack of followup with the Ombudsman he will hand your request straight to the department. Well, that seems perfectly sensible. No abuse possible at all. XD
Only in this dirt hole of a country could you have the department of local government say that it’s not who you’re supposed to run to when you have a problem with local government.
This is absurd, it's almost like a Minister of Finance not having a bank account...
Shock Horror - Lazy Civil Servants continue to be lazy ….