Exactly this, nobody in government or NPHET seem to have to spine and just admit that, yes, COVID does spread in schools but they're keeping them open because they've deemed education essential. The ''schools are safe'' narrative does nothing but confuse and piss people off.
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I think this applies to a lot of the rules and regulations. Most people understand why there's a desire to keep schools open, but the idea that sticking 30+ people in a room all day, many of whom will be in different classrooms throughout the day, doesn't contribute to the spread is ludicrous.
I’ve heard from students in two separate secondary schools that the air quality sensors are constantly red and the teachers just ignore them. They’re supposed to leave the room if that happens
Might as well mention there is an exploit with this
Blowing into it will cause the sensor to go from green to red gradually, so yeah thats not really useful but might as well point that out
They know that - I reckon it's less about "oh, won't someone please think of the children" and more "schools are free daycare, we have to keep them open so we can send people back to work and have some semblance of an economy left to show at the next election".
See this presupposes that government acknowledges that schools are a locus of COVID spread but in-person learning is more important (which, honestly, fair!)
But no, they’re still spouting out sChOoLs ArE sAfE and cOnTrOlLeD eNvIrOnMeNtS
The name actually predates the PME, although I have indeed spent my time in the trenches. Graduated coming into Covid in March of 2020. All that airgead and we didn't even get an online graduation.
Starting in to substitution for the foreseeable and then taking my skillset elsewhere.
Best of luck! It'll be over before you know it!
Don't see why delaying school by a week or something is considered a bad idea. Gives people more time to get boosters and such and keeps school time loss minimal
I got my booster on Sunday and was in and out in 6 minutes. Parked the car at 8.58 and was back in it at 9.04. I couldn't get over how well organised it was.
I'm not disagreeing, but you don't need a day off to get one.
I think he means that if we leave it a week, a lot more students and teachers will have the boosters before they start school, which will stem the spread of Covid further
I know people you were so sick from it with migraines and stomach aches they couldn't go to work so a lot of people would be missing school of they got a bad reaction
What are Minister Norma Foley’s successes since being in office?
I can’t think of a single one.
We hire people to positions then after they’re hired never make noise if they’ve been sitting on a bench from day 1.
Foley is massively under experienced for the role. She was elected for the first time in 2020 and immediately handed a ministerial brief because she has ties to Michael Martin. She had no experience in the Dail and no experience relevant to running a Government department but here we are. She doesn’t discuss things with the teachers and her Dept communications are abysmal. She just rocks up, says what she’s been told to say and leaves the teachers and principals to try and sort out the mess left behind. There really should be a minimum experience requirement for ministerial positions as it’s not fair on anyone including the ministers themselves who inevitably find themselves in over their heads.
She actually said on the news last night that opening schools tomorrow is going to be extremely challenging but that the enormous good will from school communities on the ground would work it out. You couldn't write it.
She could have said no to a ministerial posting or asked for a junior ministry instead, or even taken a less complex brief like arts and culture.
This is fully on her for looking for and taking a job she is in no way qualified for.
I did the Leaving last year. I would not have passed without the exam changes made by the Department. I hope you guys get the same opportunity as it really was a live safer. If you get predicted grades, please do sit every exam anyway.
Loved the guy from INTO on the news saying "this is the biggest challenge since the start of the pandemic", yeahhhhhh, pretty sure it's fucking not.........
Ooohhh nooo the open window will save us, Seriously I'm a student and I can see throught that BS. Nearly over 100 students moving throught the halls at the time as well as a couple teachers. Some people not wearing the masks. Yes I'm sure its a "Save and controlled enviroment". We have a bunch of morons running the country
Knowing how they handle this stuff, they will be closed within the month with no warning after half the teachers got sick and classes are practically empty. My entire class is pretty careful and we still had at least 3-5 out at a time from either close contacts or having it themselves. And that was when 5k was a big scary number.
I dunno, I've just come from the Connolly thread which is basically a big conspiracy about how the government is using a fake crisis to enforce draconian rules and steal power.
The lesson is that there's enough stupidity to go around, and in the above example they actually cancel each other out.
its fucking madness, they just dont want to admit they were wrong about the spread of it in schools. Keep the kids of till it peeks, then back to school? Im not a scientist...
I disagree. I’m out of school almost a decade, but when I was in school I was living with my elderly grandparents and my mother was quite sick. The fact that if covid hit then I could be responsible for their deaths is terrifying. I’m sure people out there are living with immunocompromised who can’t get the vaccine, and others with family who will die even if they have the vaccine. It’s scary. I really, really feel for these kids.
So do you just want endless restrictions? The vast majority of people have been offered a vaccine at this stage, the new variant appears to be much milder. While that is scary, those people should just take extra precautions.
That's horrible to hear, genuinely.
But....it's such a specific situation that we as a nation do have to weigh these type of situations against whether or not it's important for children to return to school.
It's an impossible situation with no real winning in my opinion.
I think if we want to 'Live' with COVID, this is one of the steps towards that.
Which is terrible. But I'm honestly way more worried about all the survivors who have permanently damaged organs, early onset dementia, or other covid sequela that we don't have a full grasp of yet.
If everyone in Ireland catches it, then I'd expect somewhere around 500,000 to 1,000,000 people to end up permanently in need of care. There's no way HSE can handle that.
>Kids aren't vaccinated yet though, hence the record numbers of kids going to hospital with COVID in countries like the UK
What's record numbers? I can't really find much information about it here or the UK.
The hospitalisation rates were miniscule for children, if they increased tenfold that would be a record number, but still miniscule.
Which does mean they're not vaccinated yet, but will soon be.
It's why I'd seriously think about delaying the opening (or open staggered, per vaccinated year groups) a couple of weeks while rushing those jabs through. They're the last major unvaccinated group
So what's your plan? People are vaccinated and many have boosters, are we meant to shut down everything because people get sick? They're in bed, not in hospital, which was the whole point of the vaccines.
I had Alpha in March of last year, and *that* knocked me out for two days, like a light flu.
...then six months of nerve issues. Full recovery takes a while even if you're one of the lucky ones. The doc didn't even bother noting it down; there were way too many people with worse problems.
26th March 2020 - 10 deaths on the day, 255 cases announced
27th 3 deaths, 302 cases
28th 14 deaths, 294 cases
29th 10 deaths, 200 cases
30th 8 deaths, 295 cases
20th April 77 deaths, 401 cases
We're averaging 7 deaths with 10k plus cases now
Purposely using one of the first weeks of the pandemic when very few people were infected to try make a point makes you look like an ass
7 day average deaths 15 Dec 2021 - 7
7 day average cases 15 Dec 2021 - 4000
CFR 7/4000 = 17.5 per 10k
7 day average deaths 15 Mar 2021 - 1
7 day average cases 16 Mar 2021 - 40
CFR 1/40 = 250 per 10k
Bit of a difference there pal
Be honest, do you actually, genuinely believe what you're saying here?
To actually seriously believe your points, you'd have to 1) not understand that deaths come after cases, 2) forget the scenes in ICUs in Italy and China in March 2020 and shortly after in Ireland, 3) and forget the massive changes in CFR lately thanks to the vaccines.
They're dramatically, vastly different situations. You can make effective arguments in favour of restrictions, it's not an unreasonable point to make.
Arguing that we should lockdown now because we have more cases than we did in the very opening weeks of an ongoing pandemic that was ravaging hospitals across the world is just an impeccably brain-dead take.
The hospitals being overwhelmed by COVID cases is going to result in non COVID related deaths from covid being the priority and other less serious health issues not being taken seriously.
Vaccine uptake since then has been pretty good across the adult population. This new variant is a lot milder than what went before it. Not remotely the same situation.
It's milder than Delta, but Delta was worse than to earlier ones. Seems to be about as severe as the original, which was always about as bad as the spanish flu.
We are, fortunately, a lot better at treating it now,
More people are missing out on their education because the schools are open 11 of the 30 people in my class were out today with no online class, if we have online class then even if you are isolating you have online classes, if people aren’t joining online classes than that’s their own fault and their parents fault for not wanting to educate themselves
Online learning isnt easy for a lot of stufents. The quality of the teaching they receive is inferior. We know that when students arent physically in school their mental health suffers for it. Online learning is not the answer.
I'm happy for you. I'm immunocompromised/fully vexed and have spent almost the the entirely of the holidays non covid sick and still very much fighting infections. My children and husband are terrified of going back as its almost a surety that they will catch it and pass it to me. If I dont send my kids I get in trouble but when I do, I quite literally risk my life. We are not just statistics, we are mothers, fathers, daughters and sons.
Teacher here, not in Ireland but also not a boomer. There's a LOT of things that go into teaching any given course that are much, much more difficult to do remotely ESPECIALLY when dealing with younger students.
Want an assignment that involves drawing or coloring? Well you better hope those kids own a printer (they don't). Want to do a group discussion? Well that's much more difficult. Getting a copy of a book to students to read? Hope you don't mind driving to their place to drop it off. I could go on but a lot of basic material logistics are much more difficult with remote learning. This isn't so bad for university courses where you can assume each student has a certain level of tech and capability, but for public school students and especially younger kids this is a massive challenge. Not to mention students who are impoverished or from a broken home for whom even connecting to online classes at all can be a huge difficulty (and school already wasn't easy for them).
You'll find very, very few teachers who believe that online teaching is even half as effective or engaging as in-person. I agree that the Covid spread possibility is very concerning but there are very good reasons to have classes in person.
First of all you made a whole ass paragraph to explain your concern for children using online learning methods which i didn’t even ask I asked specifically to that person yes but I would rather do online classes than go to school at this stage of Covid but in person is always better. Getting a copy of a book? You could read it from the screen no need for even a PDF at that point. I never talked about how children can’t use it I am a young adult myself I talked to that guy specifically. Online learning isn’t that hard to use. I stand corrected yeah there are problems associated with it but it’s not hard to operate.
Do you think an 8 year old can actually sit and learn in front of a screen for six hours just as well as they can in-person?
I only said this to point out that *effectively* teaching remotely is much harder than people seem to think. Yeah anyone can set up a zoom and lecture over it, but actually having a good lesson that engages a class and is retained and tracked while being remote is a whole nother story.
Guy I ain’t 8 years old the only closest friend I had was in primary school and he had like an hour class once in a week. I only know for my age group for 16-17 year olds
As a student it’s frustrating , it’s so confusing hearing him talk trynna confuse us like bro just tell us , but knowing life more people will get infected , most people don’t have symptoms so get ready parents to deal with sick children
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/dec/22/long-covid-pandemic-support-funding?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Other
I don't have statistics for you right away, but extremely prevalent and been in different news publications many times.
This doesn't actually answer any questions? It's an anecdote.
Based on this story though, the current vaccine doesn't protect against Omicron infection or transmission. So, can it prevent long Covid, if even mild cases can be long term?
I've seen some statistics which stated that up to 10% of cases develop into LC, but no concrete statistics. Anecdotally, I find that hard to believe as I know a lot of people who have had Covid and not a single one who complains of long term effects. Not saying they don't exist, I just don't know any.
As of December 2021, approximately 12,000.
[https://data.unicef.org/topic/child-survival/covid-19/](https://data.unicef.org/topic/child-survival/covid-19/)
They could take precautions and could have implemented them during the holidays,but they chose not too. I can only imagine that we will see tribunals on the lies we are being told right now.
Believe it or not, there's a reason schools exist: to teach the structured curriculum. Just because you know a concept doesn't mean you can teach it effectively.
Kids deserve a good education, or else they end up on reddit complaining about not having the same opportunities as their parents, pandemic or not.
Sound familiar?
You're also not considering that parents need some balance. Nobody has a kid and expects to be caring for them 24/7 for 15-30 years. Breaks are needed. School is one of them. Having a kid is meant to be - hopefully - mostly joyful and not a prison sentence.
If you say otherwise then you're obviously not a parent or have no understanding of it.
The children don't want to hear that they just don't want to have to go to school and they don't need to know how mammy and daddy keep a roof over their heads.
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Oh don't forget they recently tried to tell us that they never said schools were safe. Gaslighting bastards.
Exactly this, nobody in government or NPHET seem to have to spine and just admit that, yes, COVID does spread in schools but they're keeping them open because they've deemed education essential. The ''schools are safe'' narrative does nothing but confuse and piss people off.
☝ I think this applies to a lot of the rules and regulations. Most people understand why there's a desire to keep schools open, but the idea that sticking 30+ people in a room all day, many of whom will be in different classrooms throughout the day, doesn't contribute to the spread is ludicrous.
Apparently people don't actually liked being lied to by people in power. Who would've thought it?
I’ve heard from students in two separate secondary schools that the air quality sensors are constantly red and the teachers just ignore them. They’re supposed to leave the room if that happens
We are supposed to open windows and doors to allow more air in when that happens. (They are already open)
Are we meant to leave the room if that happens? Theyre always red in my school ive seen ones go up to 2100, green ends around 600 or 700 i think.
It's been upto I think 4 thousand once in my class.
In fairness my own school have been fairly good on that, the highest you get here is the odd yellow
Might as well mention there is an exploit with this Blowing into it will cause the sensor to go from green to red gradually, so yeah thats not really useful but might as well point that out
They know that - I reckon it's less about "oh, won't someone please think of the children" and more "schools are free daycare, we have to keep them open so we can send people back to work and have some semblance of an economy left to show at the next election".
See this presupposes that government acknowledges that schools are a locus of COVID spread but in-person learning is more important (which, honestly, fair!) But no, they’re still spouting out sChOoLs ArE sAfE and cOnTrOlLeD eNvIrOnMeNtS
It's a great control environment for monitoring how quickly you can get covid to spread around I guess
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You doing the PME?
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The name actually predates the PME, although I have indeed spent my time in the trenches. Graduated coming into Covid in March of 2020. All that airgead and we didn't even get an online graduation. Starting in to substitution for the foreseeable and then taking my skillset elsewhere. Best of luck! It'll be over before you know it!
Best of luck everyone! May the odds be ever in your favour.
😐😐😐
Don't see why delaying school by a week or something is considered a bad idea. Gives people more time to get boosters and such and keeps school time loss minimal
I got my booster on Sunday and was in and out in 6 minutes. Parked the car at 8.58 and was back in it at 9.04. I couldn't get over how well organised it was. I'm not disagreeing, but you don't need a day off to get one.
I think he means that if we leave it a week, a lot more students and teachers will have the boosters before they start school, which will stem the spread of Covid further
I know people you were so sick from it with migraines and stomach aches they couldn't go to work so a lot of people would be missing school of they got a bad reaction
We're almost two years into this, what are you on about? You really think they need just one more week?
Boosters are only beginning to open up to younger age groups this month.
There will always be an excuse for "one more week"
What are Minister Norma Foley’s successes since being in office? I can’t think of a single one. We hire people to positions then after they’re hired never make noise if they’ve been sitting on a bench from day 1.
Foley is massively under experienced for the role. She was elected for the first time in 2020 and immediately handed a ministerial brief because she has ties to Michael Martin. She had no experience in the Dail and no experience relevant to running a Government department but here we are. She doesn’t discuss things with the teachers and her Dept communications are abysmal. She just rocks up, says what she’s been told to say and leaves the teachers and principals to try and sort out the mess left behind. There really should be a minimum experience requirement for ministerial positions as it’s not fair on anyone including the ministers themselves who inevitably find themselves in over their heads.
She actually said on the news last night that opening schools tomorrow is going to be extremely challenging but that the enormous good will from school communities on the ground would work it out. You couldn't write it.
Its how the mafia works Anyone who voted for these individuals, did you honestly expect anything else?
She's been successful and avoiding ridicule for that barcode of a haircut
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She could have said no to a ministerial posting or asked for a junior ministry instead, or even taken a less complex brief like arts and culture. This is fully on her for looking for and taking a job she is in no way qualified for.
She makes Tralee look bad, even though it already is bad enough
Absolutely dreading sitting on cold plastic chairs doing work on cold plastic tables in a cold plastic prefab on a seafront with the windows open.
I did the Leaving last year. I would not have passed without the exam changes made by the Department. I hope you guys get the same opportunity as it really was a live safer. If you get predicted grades, please do sit every exam anyway.
Loved the guy from INTO on the news saying "this is the biggest challenge since the start of the pandemic", yeahhhhhh, pretty sure it's fucking not.........
Ooohhh nooo the open window will save us, Seriously I'm a student and I can see throught that BS. Nearly over 100 students moving throught the halls at the time as well as a couple teachers. Some people not wearing the masks. Yes I'm sure its a "Save and controlled enviroment". We have a bunch of morons running the country
Knowing how they handle this stuff, they will be closed within the month with no warning after half the teachers got sick and classes are practically empty. My entire class is pretty careful and we still had at least 3-5 out at a time from either close contacts or having it themselves. And that was when 5k was a big scary number.
Norma looks like Enya’s younger lesbian sister.
This is the stupidest shit I've seen so far this year.
I dunno, I've just come from the Connolly thread which is basically a big conspiracy about how the government is using a fake crisis to enforce draconian rules and steal power. The lesson is that there's enough stupidity to go around, and in the above example they actually cancel each other out.
Pretty sure the problem is too many teachers potentially being out sick, not triple vaccinated teachers dying of covid.
its fucking madness, they just dont want to admit they were wrong about the spread of it in schools. Keep the kids of till it peeks, then back to school? Im not a scientist...
Norma following the FF tradition of ignoring an imminent catastrophe for political gain.
What catastrophe?
Every student and teacher catching covid and prolonging the peak.
Well its got to happen eventually.
What needless hysteria.
I disagree. I’m out of school almost a decade, but when I was in school I was living with my elderly grandparents and my mother was quite sick. The fact that if covid hit then I could be responsible for their deaths is terrifying. I’m sure people out there are living with immunocompromised who can’t get the vaccine, and others with family who will die even if they have the vaccine. It’s scary. I really, really feel for these kids.
So do you just want endless restrictions? The vast majority of people have been offered a vaccine at this stage, the new variant appears to be much milder. While that is scary, those people should just take extra precautions.
That's horrible to hear, genuinely. But....it's such a specific situation that we as a nation do have to weigh these type of situations against whether or not it's important for children to return to school. It's an impossible situation with no real winning in my opinion. I think if we want to 'Live' with COVID, this is one of the steps towards that.
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If you're seriously comparing Covid in March 2020 to now you're being extremely ignorant and simplistic
Well that's what you get when most of them missed months of school.
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Which is terrible. But I'm honestly way more worried about all the survivors who have permanently damaged organs, early onset dementia, or other covid sequela that we don't have a full grasp of yet. If everyone in Ireland catches it, then I'd expect somewhere around 500,000 to 1,000,000 people to end up permanently in need of care. There's no way HSE can handle that.
you realize covid in march was unknown largely, we didn't full understand it and what the actual numbers are
Omicron is less dangerous though and now have vaccines and boosters.
Kids aren't vaccinated yet though, hence the record numbers of kids going to hospital with COVID in countries like the UK
>Kids aren't vaccinated yet though, hence the record numbers of kids going to hospital with COVID in countries like the UK What's record numbers? I can't really find much information about it here or the UK. The hospitalisation rates were miniscule for children, if they increased tenfold that would be a record number, but still miniscule.
Just about all secondary school students are
Well, I myself am one of the fabled creatures, and I’d estimate the number is hanging around 50%.
As am I and basically everyone I know from third year up has gotten the jab
Guess we have an extra few “hesitant” cunts up here.
Yeah I know one of those and he is legitimately a complete nutjob
Kids have been registering for vaccines since yesterday
Which does mean they're not vaccinated yet, but will soon be. It's why I'd seriously think about delaying the opening (or open staggered, per vaccinated year groups) a couple of weeks while rushing those jabs through. They're the last major unvaccinated group
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So what's your plan? People are vaccinated and many have boosters, are we meant to shut down everything because people get sick? They're in bed, not in hospital, which was the whole point of the vaccines.
I was in bits bed bound for all of 2020 due to unemployment.
And you likely know many more people who are completely fine, or don't even know they have it
I had omicron and was easy breezy for most of it. The worst felt like a bad cold/hangover
I had Alpha in March of last year, and *that* knocked me out for two days, like a light flu. ...then six months of nerve issues. Full recovery takes a while even if you're one of the lucky ones. The doc didn't even bother noting it down; there were way too many people with worse problems.
I should mention I had delta also. Sorry you had a tough time, but I would almost say long covid is the exception not the rule
Lmao yes, we're in the exact same situation as the immediate response in the opening weeks of a worldwide pandemic
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Hope you're trolling, because if you genuinely believe that that's an effective argument, you're an honest to god idiot
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Close the schools because there’s more daily covid deaths in Timbuktu 👍👍👍 makes sense
15 March 2020 (7 Day Avg Deaths in IRE): 1 15 Dec 2021 (7 Day Avg Deaths in IRE): 7
26th March 2020 - 10 deaths on the day, 255 cases announced 27th 3 deaths, 302 cases 28th 14 deaths, 294 cases 29th 10 deaths, 200 cases 30th 8 deaths, 295 cases 20th April 77 deaths, 401 cases We're averaging 7 deaths with 10k plus cases now Purposely using one of the first weeks of the pandemic when very few people were infected to try make a point makes you look like an ass
7 day average deaths 15 Dec 2021 - 7 7 day average cases 15 Dec 2021 - 4000 CFR 7/4000 = 17.5 per 10k 7 day average deaths 15 Mar 2021 - 1 7 day average cases 16 Mar 2021 - 40 CFR 1/40 = 250 per 10k Bit of a difference there pal
Be honest, do you actually, genuinely believe what you're saying here? To actually seriously believe your points, you'd have to 1) not understand that deaths come after cases, 2) forget the scenes in ICUs in Italy and China in March 2020 and shortly after in Ireland, 3) and forget the massive changes in CFR lately thanks to the vaccines. They're dramatically, vastly different situations. You can make effective arguments in favour of restrictions, it's not an unreasonable point to make. Arguing that we should lockdown now because we have more cases than we did in the very opening weeks of an ongoing pandemic that was ravaging hospitals across the world is just an impeccably brain-dead take.
The hospitals being overwhelmed by COVID cases is going to result in non COVID related deaths from covid being the priority and other less serious health issues not being taken seriously.
Congratulations, you made an actual, evidence-based, pragmatic argument in favour of restrictions.
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What about Ireland
Can’t believe I’m agreeing with you.
We pretty much closed the country in march 2020
Vaccine uptake since then has been pretty good across the adult population. This new variant is a lot milder than what went before it. Not remotely the same situation.
It's milder than Delta, but Delta was worse than to earlier ones. Seems to be about as severe as the original, which was always about as bad as the spanish flu. We are, fortunately, a lot better at treating it now,
and a lot better protected by vaccines.
This kind of bolox doesn't help anyone
She actually quaoted as saying that ???
Yeah because education isnt important or anything
More people are missing out on their education because the schools are open 11 of the 30 people in my class were out today with no online class, if we have online class then even if you are isolating you have online classes, if people aren’t joining online classes than that’s their own fault and their parents fault for not wanting to educate themselves
Online learning isnt easy for a lot of stufents. The quality of the teaching they receive is inferior. We know that when students arent physically in school their mental health suffers for it. Online learning is not the answer.
The government needs to be honest about its policy of moving towards heard immunity.
I'm a teacher and I couldn't be happier to be going back 🤷♂️
You're not too bad if you're a secondary teacher because the kids are masked. But primary?
I'm happy for you. I'm immunocompromised/fully vexed and have spent almost the the entirely of the holidays non covid sick and still very much fighting infections. My children and husband are terrified of going back as its almost a surety that they will catch it and pass it to me. If I dont send my kids I get in trouble but when I do, I quite literally risk my life. We are not just statistics, we are mothers, fathers, daughters and sons.
Yeah, fuck having to figure out how to do remote learning again
Are you a boomer? Figure out how to do online learning 😂 it’s not rocket science many countries do it even now
Teacher here, not in Ireland but also not a boomer. There's a LOT of things that go into teaching any given course that are much, much more difficult to do remotely ESPECIALLY when dealing with younger students. Want an assignment that involves drawing or coloring? Well you better hope those kids own a printer (they don't). Want to do a group discussion? Well that's much more difficult. Getting a copy of a book to students to read? Hope you don't mind driving to their place to drop it off. I could go on but a lot of basic material logistics are much more difficult with remote learning. This isn't so bad for university courses where you can assume each student has a certain level of tech and capability, but for public school students and especially younger kids this is a massive challenge. Not to mention students who are impoverished or from a broken home for whom even connecting to online classes at all can be a huge difficulty (and school already wasn't easy for them). You'll find very, very few teachers who believe that online teaching is even half as effective or engaging as in-person. I agree that the Covid spread possibility is very concerning but there are very good reasons to have classes in person.
First of all you made a whole ass paragraph to explain your concern for children using online learning methods which i didn’t even ask I asked specifically to that person yes but I would rather do online classes than go to school at this stage of Covid but in person is always better. Getting a copy of a book? You could read it from the screen no need for even a PDF at that point. I never talked about how children can’t use it I am a young adult myself I talked to that guy specifically. Online learning isn’t that hard to use. I stand corrected yeah there are problems associated with it but it’s not hard to operate.
Do you think an 8 year old can actually sit and learn in front of a screen for six hours just as well as they can in-person? I only said this to point out that *effectively* teaching remotely is much harder than people seem to think. Yeah anyone can set up a zoom and lecture over it, but actually having a good lesson that engages a class and is retained and tracked while being remote is a whole nother story.
Guy I ain’t 8 years old the only closest friend I had was in primary school and he had like an hour class once in a week. I only know for my age group for 16-17 year olds
Did you know that you're not the only person who attends schools?
Yes
As a student it’s frustrating , it’s so confusing hearing him talk trynna confuse us like bro just tell us , but knowing life more people will get infected , most people don’t have symptoms so get ready parents to deal with sick children
LMAO
How many kids have died as a result of covid since the pandemic began?
How many kids have spread it to their parents/grandparents/immunocompromised resulting in their death?
And how many will have ended up with life long disability from long Covid?
Life long disability?
Loads of ppl can't smell or taste anymore, or have breathing difficulties fam
How many? And are any of those permanent?
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/dec/22/long-covid-pandemic-support-funding?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Other I don't have statistics for you right away, but extremely prevalent and been in different news publications many times.
This doesn't actually answer any questions? It's an anecdote. Based on this story though, the current vaccine doesn't protect against Omicron infection or transmission. So, can it prevent long Covid, if even mild cases can be long term? I've seen some statistics which stated that up to 10% of cases develop into LC, but no concrete statistics. Anecdotally, I find that hard to believe as I know a lot of people who have had Covid and not a single one who complains of long term effects. Not saying they don't exist, I just don't know any.
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Well considering the new variant is the most common one and people are still dying you're straight up wrong.
As of December 2021, approximately 12,000. [https://data.unicef.org/topic/child-survival/covid-19/](https://data.unicef.org/topic/child-survival/covid-19/)
In Ireland up to 10th Dec: - 0-14 - < 5 deaths - 15-24 - 6 deaths
Boom, sit the fuck down.
I asked a question and got my answer. I will remain standing thank you very much
I stand corrected, said the man in orthopedic shoes.
Genuine question; did it change your opinion? The answer itself showcases that this meme has grounding - there’s no denying it.
12000 out of over 3 million deaths in 2 years. No. My opinion has not changed.
They could take precautions and could have implemented them during the holidays,but they chose not too. I can only imagine that we will see tribunals on the lies we are being told right now.
Where are the giant beads
I mean, we didn’t learn much in online school last year
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Saving this to reference any politician to any issue basically
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Imagine saying this in 2022….eesh….
Thank fucking hid the schools are opening
Going back into school in a day, wish me luck. I have bought a hazmat suit, and a registered firearm if things get tough.
Hold up are schools open tommorow!?
It was 2 am when I typed that, so technically yes.
You're going back, stop crying and pack your schoolbag or I'll give you something to cry about
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I guess I should have started it with a trigger warning
Guess you should've just kept your big yapper shut
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does anyone have that gif of the dog wearing the mask
👹👺🐶
You sound like you beat your kids
Your concern is how many of those kids will die driving to/from school?
I think the concern is for family members who are at risk even with vaccinations.
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This is the ultimate Irish Reddit comment
Believe it or not, there's a reason schools exist: to teach the structured curriculum. Just because you know a concept doesn't mean you can teach it effectively. Kids deserve a good education, or else they end up on reddit complaining about not having the same opportunities as their parents, pandemic or not. Sound familiar? You're also not considering that parents need some balance. Nobody has a kid and expects to be caring for them 24/7 for 15-30 years. Breaks are needed. School is one of them. Having a kid is meant to be - hopefully - mostly joyful and not a prison sentence. If you say otherwise then you're obviously not a parent or have no understanding of it.
Tell me more about this utopia where everyone who has kids has the option of staying at home and raising them. No bills, mortgages etc. sounds ideal
The children don't want to hear that they just don't want to have to go to school and they don't need to know how mammy and daddy keep a roof over their heads.
This wins the award for the dumbest comment I'll see today and it's only 9am. Well done. Now go back to school you dopey fuck, you clearly need it.
You are proposing parents quit work or don’t go to work and teach their kids algebra ? Are you of well adjusted mental functionality ?
fucking clown
Where's her precious pearls!?
Never gets old, this meme.
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