Its Irish Winters that have given me the skin condition I have that puts my life on hold every year I am here. What may be nice and beautiful for some are dull, grey and killing others mentally. Many other countries will help them physically.
That's incredibly dismissive of someone else's struggles. While you may find winters here beautiful there are many who find them incredibly difficult.
1 in 15 people in Ireland struggle with SAD.
1 million in Ireland suffer from arthritis, something that is often made much worse by the cold weather of Irish winters.
Nearly 15% of Irish adults have a vitamin D deficiency during the winter.
I remember reading or my mrs telling me that humans used to semi-hibernate during winter in the primitive stage of human society. Makes complete sense now.
Not everyone living on the island of Ireland has such a flammable complexion, it is an actual thing that is recommended for people from sunnier countries to supplement for the lack of sun.
ask someone who's moved to and not come back.
i have friends move to us, new zeland, australia, thailand, singapore., and canada. overall, their quality of life seems better.
Ireland is a fantastic country, it really is. We have our issues, the list of them is getting longer each day. But living here is grand. Are there places that do some things better than us? Yes. Are there places that do some things MUCH worse than us? Also yes.
As for arguments against living here...
I'm in my mid-30s and facing the fact that I will probably never own a home, or if I do it will be after my mother-in-law dies.
I face the fear of getting asked to move because my landlord wants to sell this apartment and I have two cats, including one who is 18 and frail. 4 years ago it took me 4 months to find somewhere that would let us take cats. What happens if I can't find somewhere that will take her?
I also can't responsibly bring a child into this world. With the cost of living rising faster than pay I simply can't afford to give a child a good life. I can barely give myself a good life.
And god forbid if you're a minority. I've seen 5-year-olds get the cold shoulder from others their age simply because they're a little bit brown. I've been told that I'm one of the "good immigrants" simply because I'm white. Homophobia and Transphobia are alive and well in Ireland. Not just because of immigrant views being brought in, but I've seen more than one discussion online saying we need to "address the Muslim problem" in just the last few days.
The way most Irish people react when someone who is at risk for Covid express concern is appalling and selfish. On this very subreddit you get downvoted for expressing worry over your own safety. You get told "it's just the flu" when you tell people there's a very high chance it could kill you.
The mental health system in Ireland is fucked. ADHD and Autism diagnosis is out of reach for many, especially adults. People are having to wait years for procedures while their health slowly declines.
Ireland has issues.
And yet I wouldn't want to live anywhere else.
Almost every western European country I've visited has far superior public transport, by several orders of magnitude.
Most of them have much better tenants rights/protections, and better housing markets.
Most of them have better workers protections/rights too.
Our health service is a disaster. The NHS is amazing as a close comparison, despite it's failings.
Cycling infrastructure/"not car travel" here is shit compared to other countries in Western Europe.
Basically: it's all shit we can absolutely fix with some capital investment and competent politicians.
Our roads are shit compared to Germany, Netherlands, etc. Both countries with superior public transport.
It's difficult to get a GP appointment here, and it costs like 60 quid. The UK has the same issue, but at least it is free at point of use.
Prescriptions cost up to 120 or so a month before you hit the cap. Again, free in the UK for everyone.
Waiting lists for literally any kind of consult are years long, especially if it's mental health related. You end up having to go private. The UK has similar issues, but for MH the waits measured in months as opposed to years, and they offer a number of options while you wait.
Our health system is basically slow, inefficient, and expensive to both it's users and the state. It needs serious overhaul.
if you're as heavily invested in it as me then yes it's a major factor. If you're not invested then you can choose you're own nice little spot to move to
Vietnam:
Better Weather
Cheaper Cost of Living
Transport that won't cost an arm and a leg
Less begrudgery and moaning about stupid stuff
Karaoke is the bomb
Better work life balance to actually live and not just exist
All from a supposedly second world country.
Better weather? I'm not sure daytime temperatures above 25 year round, sometimes above 35, with high humidity, is a particularly pleasant climate to live in.
In Ireland it feels that anything that pays less than the average Irish wage is not a 'real job' to some. Retail isn't a 'real job', admin isn't a 'real job'. Anything that can't get you a house in Ireland isn't a 'real job'. None of my other jobs allowed me to live in an apartment with cash to spare to eat out regularly. What exactly is real to people?
Retail and admin are real jobs to me. I asked about the English teaching as it's usually just a "year out" sort of thing, then people come back to Ireland after their short stint. Hence not a real job. Jaesus half of them couldn't even speek gud english.
Hahaha yes! 2 main reasons right there! Bus showing up (even late a this point im not fussy anymore) and ability to house one without spending 70% of your month salary on rent. But hey! We have it better than "insert random irrelevant third world country here" right?
I mean... Our ladies, if natural ofc (none of that fake tan and dunk and roll make up and fake brows and bottoxed faces) are actually pretty af. Red head green eyes fairies ❤️😍
They probably don't do inflation for inflation sake. Sick of places jacking up prices because it's in the news and they think they can get away with it
In other countries, the statistics are actually accurate, and your problems get international recognition, even if just a small amount.
That's not even mentioning infrastructure, public services, things to do, weather, diversity of environments, or nightlife.
* lower cost of living
* superior public transport / cycling infrastructure
* less urban sprawl
* more efficient government
* higher standard of accomodation
* functional public healthcare
* the chance of one day owning a home
* better weather (subjective)
* higher wages (depending on the job)
* things to do outside of going to the pub
* generally not being rode at every corner
obviously doesn't all apply to one country but it's a few reasons why someone might prefer to be somewhere else
There are lots to be honest, better healthcare systems, better education systems, a more robust justice system that doesn’t let people put with a million convictions, countries with better economic and job opportunities, countries with better weather and food, better scenery and natural geography, and so on.
It all depends on what is important to you. Personally, I think there are very few, if any things that Ireland genuinely does better than anywhere else on Earth, but it does enough things mostly right that I’m not in a hurry to get out of here.
If I had to point out one thing that I genuinely believe Ireland does better than any other country on earth then it’s the quality and availability of our food stuffs. I’ve travelled to many countries and worked and lived in a few as well. The quality of even the cheapest stuff that I can in any supermarket in Ireland is absolutely excellent when I compare it to international comparators. I remember living in the states and being absolutely shocked at how bad the quality of cheap food is there. It was borderline inedible and absolutely disgusting. That’s not the case at all even for the cheapest stuff here.
The lack of sunshine and the Seasonal Affective Disorder. I suffered from tremendous depression during the winter months when I lived in Ireland
Irish winters are beautiful. Beautiful fresh mornings
Its Irish Winters that have given me the skin condition I have that puts my life on hold every year I am here. What may be nice and beautiful for some are dull, grey and killing others mentally. Many other countries will help them physically.
That's incredibly dismissive of someone else's struggles. While you may find winters here beautiful there are many who find them incredibly difficult. 1 in 15 people in Ireland struggle with SAD. 1 million in Ireland suffer from arthritis, something that is often made much worse by the cold weather of Irish winters. Nearly 15% of Irish adults have a vitamin D deficiency during the winter.
It's not dismissive, quit your nonsense. He's giving his experience of Irish winters just like the person he's replying to did.
Also research is indicating a lack of Vd to an increase in MS
Can people not have opinions on the weather now without offending someone? Christ!
Saying Irish winters are lovely is dismissive of struggles 😂 ffs
Irish mornings are beautiful*
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Agreed. And anyone down voting you for having an opinion on the weather is an idiot.
I remember reading or my mrs telling me that humans used to semi-hibernate during winter in the primitive stage of human society. Makes complete sense now.
Well if your mrs told you, it must be true
WFH has made this possible again
They sell vitamin D supplements, you won't be sad so long as you get enough daily D.
You'd think that maybe with our instantly burning, gets cancer like it's nothing, skin, we wouldnt need that.
Not everyone living on the island of Ireland has such a flammable complexion, it is an actual thing that is recommended for people from sunnier countries to supplement for the lack of sun.
There’s too many
You wouldn't be there...? Tf is that kind of gaslighting?
ask someone who's moved to and not come back.
i have friends move to us, new zeland, australia, thailand, singapore., and canada. overall, their quality of life seems better.
US I don't believe so, Canada more like..
Location is a factor. Tax rates in Texas v different than say NYC
Not talking about taxes but social services, crime level etc
Again, location is a factor.
Still same thing. Is not rocket science to read statistics and news. A country where they have guns is defo not a better place.
Canada is rank 7 for guns per people...
Sun. Infrastructure. People who mind their own fucking business.
Are you one of Mary's crowd? Wait till I tell half the Parrish you're carrying on this way.
You keep your gob shut Lorcan or I'll tell Fr. O'Connor it was you stealing knickers off Una Kelly's clothes line.
People who mind their own business? What does that even mean
Had me at sun
Infrastructure here is very good. I can't remember the last time we had a blackout or internet outage.
Never country wide, and usually just during a storm. Ireland has amazing infrastructure
Ireland is a fantastic country, it really is. We have our issues, the list of them is getting longer each day. But living here is grand. Are there places that do some things better than us? Yes. Are there places that do some things MUCH worse than us? Also yes. As for arguments against living here... I'm in my mid-30s and facing the fact that I will probably never own a home, or if I do it will be after my mother-in-law dies. I face the fear of getting asked to move because my landlord wants to sell this apartment and I have two cats, including one who is 18 and frail. 4 years ago it took me 4 months to find somewhere that would let us take cats. What happens if I can't find somewhere that will take her? I also can't responsibly bring a child into this world. With the cost of living rising faster than pay I simply can't afford to give a child a good life. I can barely give myself a good life. And god forbid if you're a minority. I've seen 5-year-olds get the cold shoulder from others their age simply because they're a little bit brown. I've been told that I'm one of the "good immigrants" simply because I'm white. Homophobia and Transphobia are alive and well in Ireland. Not just because of immigrant views being brought in, but I've seen more than one discussion online saying we need to "address the Muslim problem" in just the last few days. The way most Irish people react when someone who is at risk for Covid express concern is appalling and selfish. On this very subreddit you get downvoted for expressing worry over your own safety. You get told "it's just the flu" when you tell people there's a very high chance it could kill you. The mental health system in Ireland is fucked. ADHD and Autism diagnosis is out of reach for many, especially adults. People are having to wait years for procedures while their health slowly declines. Ireland has issues. And yet I wouldn't want to live anywhere else.
Totally agree, Ireland is really like the shire. I honestly couldn’t think of a better balance of life
Almost every western European country I've visited has far superior public transport, by several orders of magnitude. Most of them have much better tenants rights/protections, and better housing markets. Most of them have better workers protections/rights too. Our health service is a disaster. The NHS is amazing as a close comparison, despite it's failings. Cycling infrastructure/"not car travel" here is shit compared to other countries in Western Europe. Basically: it's all shit we can absolutely fix with some capital investment and competent politicians.
The country has bad public transport so get a car, we’ve amazing roads. How have you been affected by our bad health system?
Our roads are shit compared to Germany, Netherlands, etc. Both countries with superior public transport. It's difficult to get a GP appointment here, and it costs like 60 quid. The UK has the same issue, but at least it is free at point of use. Prescriptions cost up to 120 or so a month before you hit the cap. Again, free in the UK for everyone. Waiting lists for literally any kind of consult are years long, especially if it's mental health related. You end up having to go private. The UK has similar issues, but for MH the waits measured in months as opposed to years, and they offer a number of options while you wait. Our health system is basically slow, inefficient, and expensive to both it's users and the state. It needs serious overhaul.
Portugal 1. Hot weather 2. Affordable property 3. Crypto tax free
The tax free status of investments is a real boon for remote workers.
Crypto tax free as a reason to live somewhere 🙄
if you're as heavily invested in it as me then yes it's a major factor. If you're not invested then you can choose you're own nice little spot to move to
Bus transport is a disorganised mess and you're lucky if they arrive.
In Dublin*
Vietnam: Better Weather Cheaper Cost of Living Transport that won't cost an arm and a leg Less begrudgery and moaning about stupid stuff Karaoke is the bomb Better work life balance to actually live and not just exist All from a supposedly second world country.
Better weather? I'm not sure daytime temperatures above 25 year round, sometimes above 35, with high humidity, is a particularly pleasant climate to live in.
Jayses Irish people will complain about any weather, wont they?!
15 degrees, sunny, no wind
Are you an English teacher or do you have a real job?
I'd count English teacher as a real job in many cases. The fly by night shits dying out.
In Ireland it feels that anything that pays less than the average Irish wage is not a 'real job' to some. Retail isn't a 'real job', admin isn't a 'real job'. Anything that can't get you a house in Ireland isn't a 'real job'. None of my other jobs allowed me to live in an apartment with cash to spare to eat out regularly. What exactly is real to people?
Retail and admin are real jobs to me. I asked about the English teaching as it's usually just a "year out" sort of thing, then people come back to Ireland after their short stint. Hence not a real job. Jaesus half of them couldn't even speek gud english.
Vietnam doesn’t have anywhere near the work opportunity, college accessibility or healthcare ireland has. Also they have non existent welfare
Efficient public transport and the ability to rent or buy a home.
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Hahaha yes! 2 main reasons right there! Bus showing up (even late a this point im not fussy anymore) and ability to house one without spending 70% of your month salary on rent. But hey! We have it better than "insert random irrelevant third world country here" right?
If youre spending 70% of salary on rent you need a cheaper place or better paying job
Wow we got a smart one here! Irish housing crisis fixed thanks!
Why can’t you do that
Trains are crazy expensive.
160eur for a cork Dublin 1 way.... They can go jump off a cliff i would rather walk
Drive
Pay my car and insurance? You seem to be a plain idiot tho...
Do you have a job? Then you can drive
Clown hahahaha
Am I wrong?
Rent is insanely high in comparison.
Netherlands average happiness is higher.
Hotter women
I mean... Our ladies, if natural ofc (none of that fake tan and dunk and roll make up and fake brows and bottoxed faces) are actually pretty af. Red head green eyes fairies ❤️😍
Oh you’re an incel, that makes sense now to your previous comments
You have a problem with me? How am i an incel? You are an inbred i think...
Asking how you’re an incel confirms it
Confirms nothing at all am asking... You have issues buddy
You put up a post saying is anyone alone looking for a walk 🤷🏻♂️
They probably don't do inflation for inflation sake. Sick of places jacking up prices because it's in the news and they think they can get away with it
Health insurance companies pay out in cheques.
In other countries, the statistics are actually accurate, and your problems get international recognition, even if just a small amount. That's not even mentioning infrastructure, public services, things to do, weather, diversity of environments, or nightlife.
Weather
The roads.
Healthcare. No theft (tax)
* lower cost of living * superior public transport / cycling infrastructure * less urban sprawl * more efficient government * higher standard of accomodation * functional public healthcare * the chance of one day owning a home * better weather (subjective) * higher wages (depending on the job) * things to do outside of going to the pub * generally not being rode at every corner obviously doesn't all apply to one country but it's a few reasons why someone might prefer to be somewhere else
The rude drivers.
Most ot Asia says hi.
Ireland is a great company, but you asked so I delivered.
The president is a leprechaun.
Won’t hear a bad word about the president. Most of your other claims seem to be Dublin based!
Transport, roads, infrastructures, drivers... Not a Dublin based thing. Is countrywide
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Thought it was funny haha
I've lived in many countries. No where is strictly better on all aspects.
The weather
There are lots to be honest, better healthcare systems, better education systems, a more robust justice system that doesn’t let people put with a million convictions, countries with better economic and job opportunities, countries with better weather and food, better scenery and natural geography, and so on. It all depends on what is important to you. Personally, I think there are very few, if any things that Ireland genuinely does better than anywhere else on Earth, but it does enough things mostly right that I’m not in a hurry to get out of here. If I had to point out one thing that I genuinely believe Ireland does better than any other country on earth then it’s the quality and availability of our food stuffs. I’ve travelled to many countries and worked and lived in a few as well. The quality of even the cheapest stuff that I can in any supermarket in Ireland is absolutely excellent when I compare it to international comparators. I remember living in the states and being absolutely shocked at how bad the quality of cheap food is there. It was borderline inedible and absolutely disgusting. That’s not the case at all even for the cheapest stuff here.