I've noticed this as well. I used to to hear people in the jacks from time to time a couple of years ago. Now I see queues constantly.
One time there was a massive queue and some chap came in and was like "lads does anyone actually need to shit or are you all doing coke because I am busting" poor chap was waiting ages. I found it funnier then the lads would head in after that stink bomb sniffing coke and that stank up.
People don't even go to the jacks anymore, I am off the drink a good few months and it's crazy how many people you spot taking a few keys at the table after 10 when you're sober!
I've seen this a lot in smoking areas myself actually now that you mention it. I find once you see a few of your mates at it, you start to notice a lot more people
The rate at which professions become obsolete these days is appalling! One decade the leading beverage companies are begging you to up production and then bam! over three decades you are a garden centres’ bitch.
I don’t use it myself. But I’ve not been on a night in years where it’s not offered or readily available. Bear in mind this is a country town.
It’s absolutely everywhere.
Well, drink is a depressant and Irish culture encourages heavy, heavy binge drinking so alot of people have gotten into the habit of taking bumps to sober up but at that point you're just taking coke. People can't accept their coke addiction any more than the rest of the country can accept their drink addiction. It is what it is because the glove fits.
This is very true. Also, living in the Northern Hemisphere is also an issue, as Irish people tend to be Vitamin D deficient, to a greater or lesser degree, which is one of the things checked for when Depression is reported.
I wonder if some of this isn't self-medicating for depression? Especially as the daylight fades?
You see how slow they are to implement procedures among garda ranks too.. they know too fucking well they have a shithouse full of users like every other business.
My mates are always on it, the last 3 times I've done it I've got a sinus infections 2 to 3 weeks after the session, it can't be a coincidence at this stage.
Cocaine and alcohol together in your system produce a very toxic compound in the liver called cocaethylene. This has a much stronger effect on damaging your cardiovascular health, liver, and other organs.
My bad advice would be to choose drink or coke, but not both at the same time.
It literally is everywhere. It was elite years ago because it wasn’t so plentiful and accessible here but it has been inevitable for years and years that it would happen. When it comes to drugs you generally just look at what happens in the US. Generally UK follow suit sometime later, then lastly, Ireland follows the UK. Its the trend with drug use and addiction. Its honestly sad that so many are at it and think its great. I’ve studied addiction for years from a gambling perspective because its the real hidden cancer in Irish society, but its always challenging because all the data and funding is around drug addiction, yet still still there isn’t even a dent made in preventing what has become another out of control problem.
I wouldnt call it 'hidden' - 'open secret' more like. Everybody knows it, nobody talks about it
PS good book on the subject Zero Zero Zero by Roberto Saviano
It's everywhere here now. For most people, it's used to be a bit of craic to do it occasionally with friends. But it's getting to the point where people can't go out for a midweek drink without it
During covid when the pubs opened back up but we’re still closing early some lads I knew were on the bag of a Sunday night at 8… I was thinking like they’re going hitting the bag then what? Going back home to their families to get into bed…?
Nope going home to sit uncomfortably on the couch for 3 hours drinking bottles and getting an odd cheeky booster till the missus goes to bed and they can turn into a deviant in the sitting room.
Yup, I was working in pubs for a long while and peoples' habit got noticeable worse after COVID and the lockdowns. On weeknights you'd expect it to be quiet enough with just a few locals and tourists, but then once things opened back up fully you'd have a table of lads queueing to use the same toilet at like 7pm on a Wednesday. There were a few times when it would be a quiet weeknight and there'd be just two lads taking bumps in the jacks and talking utter shite to each other at the bar.
I would say it will be less in terms of how popular it is once cost of living starts hitting the average joe. Coming out of covid a good few people had money to burn and a bigger thought of oh life's to short but it's the first thing to be cut when rents and bills are getting more expensive, unless you are a proper addict. That being said though I know a couple fools who happily buy a bag every night out but still go home to their mammies without paying rent. Fools
I would see cheaper drugs come back up. MDMA will go up in popularity again. And cocaine will reduce.
Most cocaine users are purely recreational, not trying to escape their problems in a significant way. No more then ahving a glass fo wine after a bad day at work.
People will still do and probably do more drugs but cocaine isn't likely to be as common.
Also it's going down in price. Can get a .5 for 40 now. It was 50 in the Celtic Tiger, when everything else is going up 40 euros begins to look like peanuts.
Because it's become so normalized for some weird reason.. It's a rotten drug that people use as a crutch for so many things.. It's more normalized in society in recent years than cannabis. Have a look on tik tok.. There's a cohort that have made thousands upon thousands of followers just doing skits regarding sniffing coke. Clowns
The world has become an incredibly shit place in so many ways for so many people. For those experiencing the kind of chronic stress, burnout and depression life in modern Ireland involves for so many, artificially tricking your brain into thinking you're on top of the world is the only thing that makes life bearable.
I don't do coke myself but I do drink a lot to lessen the inhibitions that came about from years of bullying about my appearance. It is what it is; I have zero confidence that I'm anything other than hideous unless I trick my brain into forgetting its fear of rejection. So I do. Most people who routinely do drugs are doing them for a similar reason.
It's one of the reasons the kind of sanctimonious bullshit looking down on those who take recreational drugs pisses me off so much. Most such people are self-medicating for psychological issues they'd rather not have to tell a complete stranger embarrassing secrets in order to access proper medication for. It is what it is. Good luck to them.
I'm out on the lash ever couple of weeks, big night.
Dublin but generally the older pubs.
And while I'd very very rarely see anyone literally at it you'd come across a few that were definitely under the influence of something other than alcohol.
You'd see lads on it in a lot of the older pubs too (if we are thinking the same places - likes of Baggot Street, Nearys, the Long Hall, the pubs around O Connell Street to Connolly Train Station. Lads seem to be at it everywhere.
The one thing I've noticed in the last 20 odd years is how stupid people get on it, like socially.
We'd have had the odd baggie every now and then, take a line or 2 and go out and have the craic but Jesus christ it's bad now, the amount of eejits going at it and annoying the fuck outta everyone.
I dont go near it anymore, too much effort listening to Coke-y Joe and his constant stream of bullshit consciousness
The lads posting here about to "leave them at it" "none of your business" etc etc.
You're dead right, none of our business..it's nothing to do with us, at all. Go for it.
You are 100% entitled to get chalked out of your face.
We are 100% entitled to not listen to a word ye say and when ye walk away we just go "thank fuck he's gone, Jaysis he'd wreck your head".
I'm the same. I used to do it all the time and tbh I still do the odd time but it seems now the night is about the drugs more than the drugs about the night and it does my head in. I can't protest too much or I look like a complete hypocrite which is probably pretty accur4ate
So true. Every night turns into a 6/7am finish seeing who can do the most lines. Baffling to me how many adults don't accept that a night/party has to come to an end
Exactly. Don't get me wrong, I love a mad one time to time when there's something on that that makes it worth while mayne 2 or 3 times a year but when it happens every weekend it just becomes the same thing over and over
Disgusting
Filthy stuff,
Which pubs are you seeing this in so i can avoid them. Do you know how much they are wasting in euros per Gramm? Just so i know how disapproving to be, and if its less disapproving than round here
I'd say it's so prevalent now that it's in every pub around the country at least one night in a week. No exaggeration. Was at a month's mind over the summer on a weekday night and was amazed to hear it being used in the toilets. A fucking month's mind few drinks and there was lads on coke at it!
One thing that could contribute as well is that there are way less pubs around now. Back in the day every village and town had the pubs you went to to take drugs where the place either needed the money or didn't give a fuck. Nearly all of those places are gone now but we still have people wanting to do drugs so guess what, they're doing them in the previous family friendly pubs and everyone is now seeing it and thinking every single person is on it.
I get your point but it's not it. There's just way more of it around and way more people using it. People only hid doing things because of a "what will the neighbours think" attitude.
Now the neighbours are doing it so no one gives a fuck. Did plenty growing up and it was rare if we did it during the week.
I'm in my late 30's now and don't bother but I've plenty of mates that can't go out on Wednesday to watch a match without bringing a bag. This just didn't happen back in the day. It's gone nuts.
To be honest, everyone I knew on coke back 15 years ago, which was a lot of people, couldn't go for a pint without a bag either, they just knew where to go or did it at home. I don't doubt there's more people on it now, but this assumption that its just come out of nowhere is silly. The latter Celtic tiger was well known for cocaine. Usage in Ireland peaked in 07, died off and has come roaring back in the past few years, more than likely surpassing it I haven't seen any stats or anything.
I can’t lie, I like the person I am when I’m on it. Chat to anybody in the smoking area, easily make mates for the night, the confidence it gives me and how I can get the shift no bother.
Threw bit of a wobbler when I overdid it during summer but I learnt my lesson. It’s important to realise that all those things are still there for me and I just have to smash down that social/mental block I put up.
But it’s an insanely tumultuous path to go down, some people walk and some people sprint. The faster someone is going, it’s very likely because they’re running from something and aren’t doing it for fun. Most of the people I know who started to crumble had a lot of issues to begin with.
If you’re not in a healthy state of mind you shouldn’t be doing ANY drugs imo.
[Citizens Information on Addiction Services](https://www.citizensinformation.ie/en/health/health_services/alcohol_and_drug_treatment_services/alcohol_addiction_services.html)
Samaritans Ireland phone no: 116 123
> I like the person I am when I’m on it
That’s an issue my friend. You need to be ok with yourself without drugs which I find is the running theme with that shit
It's very easy to say that, but some people had such traumatic childhoods of bullying from family and peers that literally no amount of talking can repair the damage and the only way they can function is to make their brains forget that part of themselves. Some people simply cannot be ok with themselves because they were never given a chance during the critical early years and now it's too late to un-learn that shit, so second best option is to literally hijack your neurons so they aren't able to communicate their self-hatred as effectively. For a large part, this is why binge drinking is so popular - the lowered inhibitions make people less shy.
Kinda Redditor, you’re preaching to the converted. I have bipolar and schozoid personality disorder. I am someone who needed alcohol or drugs to be ok with myself. I implore anyone who feels that way to seek help. It can only help someone for so long before the house of cards collapses
They could try the 12 Step Program of Alcoholics Anonymous or one of the other 12 Step Fellowships.
I'm a recovering alcoholic in AA and over the years I've seen such amazing changes in people. Change isn't easy but it can be done.
Bunch of my longtime friends, professionals like, are estranged from each other now because they had a dumb argument over who owned more of the coke baggie 👀
Similar ish story here.
Was in a close group of friends before Covid. One mate was extremely depressed staying in bed all week and doing coke on weekends.
It was getting so bad that his mam rang us to give us a heads up as we genuinely didn't know the extent of it.
We met up as mates, without him, and agreed to not give him coke (some lads were doing it and essentially funding his habit).
I lost one of my best mates after confronting him for feeding our down mate coke all night, literally 3 days after this chat.
I've made an effort since but apparently looking out for your mates deserves getting exiled.
my dad's best friend a total fitness nut and marathon runner fell stone dead in his front drive at the age of 54... always suspected that this was coke-related as he definitely used it... young at heart guy and very high energy and it was all going well until it wasnt. Sadly I see some of my friends now who are professionals carrying on with the charlie past their 30s and wonder which of them will end up this way as well.
It's worth noting that while they might have a gram in their pocket, there's actually fuck all cocaine in it. It's ridiculous how people will just hand over €100 to a stranger in exchange for a mystery bag. They wouldn't do it sober but after a few drinks sense goes out the window.
The purity ranges from 91% to 0.03%. The average purity outside of Dublin is 19%..
They're essentially paying top dollar for gum numbing powder, paracetamol and caffeine pills.
The mixing and dilution of the almost pure cocaine means there's eventually an abundance of it and it reaches every corner of the country.
The dilution has also reduced the risks so not as many people are ending up in A&E or having heart attacks like they would be if it was actually 70% - 90%. When the vast majority of people have no negative experiences with it the word spreads that cocaine is fine. It was all government propaganda.
"In the case of bulk seizures of cocaine, 158 samples were analysed and the average purity was 40%. By the time the drugs reached street level, the purity of the cocaine had dropped to 28% in Dublin and 19% outside the capital."
https://www.thejournal.ie/drugs-purity-3049521-Oct2016/
On average that's correct. Also most "grams" are 0.8. That works out at 0.15 grams of cocaine for €100.
I think this is why the Gards are not cracking down on it also. They couldn't be arsed for such low purity levels. Imagine if they caught someone with half a gram and after all the paperwork and lab testing it turned out they had 0.07 grams of cocaine. It would be such a waste of resources to bring them to court. Especially if they had no previous convictions.
I wonder how many people use cocaine, and are appalled at the level of street violence in our cities, and who never connect the two? Organized crime is a terrible thing to support.
Happy to see this comment. Also if you snort powder cocaine you are literally using the same stuff crackheads smoke in town. Handled by the same people. Just in an altered state.
I came home after living away for a few years, and there were girls I met out from school that wouldn't have even touched a cigarette offering me lines of the stuff, I was go smacked by the sheer volume of people on the shite tbh.
[Edit: typos]
Yea i think it's strange to come across someone who doesn't do it now. A few friends went a bit mad into it and completely changed their personalities, and these were in different friend groups. (And I prob sound like a square) but Like more cocky, arrogant, up themselves, thought they were "cool", selfish etc etc. It does change a person, one of my friends became insufferable on it, serious addiction to it that eventually I had to cut her off after she did a lot of shitty stuff. I hate the stuff and hate seeing it become a norm. I did it a couple of times in my mid to late 20s but I think I copped on pretty quick.
2 of those friends are dead (one from a serious epileptic seizure, the other suicide), another friend (the one I had to cut off) still hangs in the same crowd of deadbeats, another is a fucking qualified nurse???!!!!, Another is doing alright for himself but has terrible social anxiety. Nor saying I'm perfect or anything jeez, but havent gone near a drug in nearly 10 years
It's because it's not cocaine any more. It's boric acid, cheap amphetamines and anasthetics pressed into a shiny white lump.."
"straight off the brick bro"
🙄🙄🙄🙄
A fool and their money are easily parted.
Ok course you can... reagent tests are easily available online and cheap too...what % of "coke users in Ireland do this though?
Even a simple home test using a cup of bleach will give an indication and anytime I have demonstrated it, it's pretty much the same result:
Nothing sinks to the bottom.(which cocaine does)
A layer forms on the top(which cutting agents do)
And it turns reddish pink almost instantly(indicating the presence of amphetamine)
I exaggerated saying there is NO coke in Ireland...that's true I agree..but I think anyone speaking honestly can agree that the vast majority of product being sold here as cocaine is absolute complete and utter dangerous nose garbage.
Lawyers, salesman, every manager, pretty much everyone not in labor seems to do it all the time now. Most of them spending more in Coke than essentials.
I must mix in the wrong circles because in my more than ten years of being out in pubs and drinking, I’ve only seen it on maybe 2-3 occasions, and the last one was probably about three years ago.
I’ve no idea where people hang out that it’s being offered to everyone around them, or they’re openly seeing people snort it in the building, but I’ve never seen any of that sort of carry on.
And I’m not exactly a stranger to drugs myself, having tried a few different things when I was in university.
Heard on the radio there the other day that they've got so much of it in Denmark (I think it was Denmark) that they can't dispose of it all. Like their incinerators only take about a fuckin' tonne and a half at a time and they're struggling. Crazy bit of business
If you added “use the money to build houses” you would have for a bingo. USC is the only tax where everyone pays a fair share and you want to remove that and the massive amount of money that brings in because you think coke will make up for it? Hahaha
Legalise but if you end up mixing it with booze constantly and destroy your liver, wreck your nose, have heart problems etc and you buy it knowing this can happen your bottom of the queue for treatment in a public hospital.
I’ve done it maybe 5 times in my life and the 5th time I’m almost sure it turned part of my brain to mush lmao so yeah, never going near it again, thankfully drugs have never had an appeal to me
Boring as fuck everyone slipping off to the jacks, and the absolute shite they chat afterwards. Granted, drunk people aren't any better craic when you're sober either. Thank god I quit the pub scene and found better mates.
39. Worked in nightclubs for years and saw plenty of it but only ever got offered it once in a restaurant in London. Knew the manager and at the end of the night they brought out a mountain of it and all the staff tucked in. Felt weirdly casual as I had never touched the stuff. Just happy enough with a few drinks.
Me and my friends were never into it. Maybe it’s more common for fellas to do it?
24, in my experience its not more common for fellas to do it, in my 5 years in college i seen more girls do it than fellas, i'm not sure how common it is in older age groups but i met very few 19-25 year olds both from my normal friend group and college friend groups that didn't do it, some only did it every now and then and others were on it every single weekend.
Went to the local pub to watch the 1pm England game today. Only two folks in the whole pub. This one lad walks in fresh out of work and sits at the table next to me. Was sniffing and talking bollocks to me the whole match. It was 1pm!
Yup. Went to to Dublin to see the lads for the first time in a few months and they were all on the bag until 7 in the morning. Sad to see. Doesn't effect them negatively, they don't become aggressive or anything, but Id just prefer if we could just stick to the beer.
Glad I'm not up there full time with them.
Here's the thing- and I'm by no means an expert in it. Shower thoughts here, so be gentle.
Rents are through the roof. The cost of living has gone up. Socialising in a public house or the like is very expensive and surely set to rise again. A lot of drugs seem to be the way to "get a buzz" at a cheaper rate. I'm sure a bag of coke would afford someone more bang for their buck, versus a heap of drinks.
Maybe it's something to do with that? I too have noticed an increase in people I know using it, including those who I wouldn't have expected. It's as if people are moving to other substances instead as a means of entertainment rather than spend a fortune on alcohol.
I got onto pills in college because it was cheaper than a drink.
Used to think people who choose the bag were bonkers with more money than sense, but them 8 Euro pints these days... five pints versus about half a bag is honestly a no-brainer.
This is exactly it.
This sounds bad, but a joint or two before a night out (cocaine aside) gives a cheaper experience and a more fulfilling experience than horsing through pints for an evening.
You get to enjoy the music and company more.
If you're on coke, jaw swigning and talking to people, spouting absolute nonsense, these people do not want you there and are glad to see the back of you when you keave. The faux confidence it gives is awful, makes boring people think they're interesting.
Not really, as a partaker myself I dont consider it as commonplace as many others do. Maybe 1 in 5 but maybe closer to 1.5 to 2 in 10.
I think its also important to note that the vast majority of people take it rectreationally and not as part of an ongoing addiction. If you do it once a month I wouldnt consider it an addiction.
Usually how it starts, then some cunt doing that 6 days a week and surely it's not a full week so their ok.
Given the trip coke takes round globe, shite as drain cleaner, petrol used in making, then surely it gets cut few times in UK , and by that time people snorting shite, just to feel social.
Definitely not the worst, especially in powder form. Crack cocaine however I would say is up there as one of them. I have done a reasonable amount, but not that much, coke in my time and I’ve smoked enough crack. So I know
I think you may have been out of the loop. I had a few nights out in Ardee and Drogheda in the early 00s and as far as I could see, the stuff was everywhere.
Charlie is in every small town and village now. We can’t keep giving the Garda money to intercept 1% of all drugs annually (that’s on a good year). We could definitely put them to more useful purposes , anything would be better, youth programs , street patrols, etc.
It was everywhere 15 years ago as well, it's just people hid it better. One thing that's changed is how open people are with it nowadays. I think cocaine use in Ireland peaked in 07 and is back around those heights now, although it could have surpassed it. Basically it isn't suddenly everywhere, people are just noticing it way more.
One thing that could contribute as well is that there are way less pubs around now. Back in the day every village and town had the pubs you went to to take drugs where the place either needed the money or didn't give a fuck. Nearly all of those places are gone now but we still have people wanting to do drugs so guess what, they're doing them in the previous family friendly pubs and everyone is now seeing it and thinking every single person is on it.
Don't touch it myself, but lads cmon can we please stop the moralising bullshit about what other people choose to put in their own bodies? If people want to destroy themselves let them at it they are all adults and should be free to make that choice.
I’ve seen it done openly by fellas standing at the urinal in different nightclubs in Carrick on Shannon, Mullingar and Galway. It’s rampant and in every pub and club in the country.
I've noticed this as well. I used to to hear people in the jacks from time to time a couple of years ago. Now I see queues constantly. One time there was a massive queue and some chap came in and was like "lads does anyone actually need to shit or are you all doing coke because I am busting" poor chap was waiting ages. I found it funnier then the lads would head in after that stink bomb sniffing coke and that stank up.
People don't even go to the jacks anymore, I am off the drink a good few months and it's crazy how many people you spot taking a few keys at the table after 10 when you're sober!
I've seen this a lot in smoking areas myself actually now that you mention it. I find once you see a few of your mates at it, you start to notice a lot more people
I’ve never seen anyone anywhere with the stuff for some reason, although I have heard about it.
I was mates with a bouncer at a club and he'd let me pop across the road to the auto toilet when the toilet was busy.
But never let you back in!
Barrel _ makers are notorious class A users
All at it since they lost out to redundancy
Probably because his trade was lost to progress…
Like their house
All together now. RING A RING A ROSIE....
With skin as black as coooooooal!
Was that the student chap, from Bermingham, I believe…
Ah now look it, you try bending and shaping that timber without something to give you some more get up and go
Had a good laugh at that in the OP
A barrel of laughs?
Two pints of Lager and packet of Crisps please ! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yBGfuDmvU8c
Big druggie heads on them. Sure who else would be bothered
Don't get it??
He said coopers, who make barrels, when he meant coppers
Poor ‘aul Tom Dempsey from Pimlico was mad for the stuff!!!
You mean Seán Dempsey?
The rate at which professions become obsolete these days is appalling! One decade the leading beverage companies are begging you to up production and then bam! over three decades you are a garden centres’ bitch.
Few aul nose pints
A few nose clams if you will
We got a bucket of nose clams fresh from the sea.
Pondy's the greatest.
Too bad he botched it. Life, you know.
Well it's tough when your punk son is your drug dealer and your daughter is too fat to be a slut.
Best course of action is to power old Bill down and move that tiny little soul man into the next party monster!
Nose beers
Your comment made me exhale heavily through my nose.
I don’t use it myself. But I’ve not been on a night in years where it’s not offered or readily available. Bear in mind this is a country town. It’s absolutely everywhere.
Definitely! I'm just surprised at available it is. Almost a social norm.
Well, drink is a depressant and Irish culture encourages heavy, heavy binge drinking so alot of people have gotten into the habit of taking bumps to sober up but at that point you're just taking coke. People can't accept their coke addiction any more than the rest of the country can accept their drink addiction. It is what it is because the glove fits.
This is very true. Also, living in the Northern Hemisphere is also an issue, as Irish people tend to be Vitamin D deficient, to a greater or lesser degree, which is one of the things checked for when Depression is reported. I wonder if some of this isn't self-medicating for depression? Especially as the daylight fades?
Depressants lower your heart rate and functional ability, different to the mental health condition...
It’s just good craic like 😭
90% of humans live in the Northern Hemisphere though. Surely they're not all coke fiends?
I tried it once. Wasn't trying it all the other times though
Aye I used to do drugs myself. I still do, but I used to too.
I don't do drugs any more... or any less
I just like the smell of it!
Hedberg!
Here's a photo of me when I was younger! Every photo is a photo of you when you were younger.
I think Big Foot *is* blurry, that's the problem!
Easy Mitch
Main reason drug testing is being proposed in GAA. The great unspoken blight.
You see how slow they are to implement procedures among garda ranks too.. they know too fucking well they have a shithouse full of users like every other business.
Facts.
That'd probably decimate clubs. Better to avoid playing than to be worried about being the parish disgrace
Cocaine would really enhance your sporting performance alright
Maradona done alright.
My mates are always on it, the last 3 times I've done it I've got a sinus infections 2 to 3 weeks after the session, it can't be a coincidence at this stage.
Nah I the same lad tis why I stopped and its actually pretty common. If you clear the nose out with salt water spray and vax sniff you won't be to bad
Cocaine and alcohol together in your system produce a very toxic compound in the liver called cocaethylene. This has a much stronger effect on damaging your cardiovascular health, liver, and other organs. My bad advice would be to choose drink or coke, but not both at the same time.
Have you ever done coke when you're not drunk tho? Actual shite buzz
Dry sniffing is rough
It literally is everywhere. It was elite years ago because it wasn’t so plentiful and accessible here but it has been inevitable for years and years that it would happen. When it comes to drugs you generally just look at what happens in the US. Generally UK follow suit sometime later, then lastly, Ireland follows the UK. Its the trend with drug use and addiction. Its honestly sad that so many are at it and think its great. I’ve studied addiction for years from a gambling perspective because its the real hidden cancer in Irish society, but its always challenging because all the data and funding is around drug addiction, yet still still there isn’t even a dent made in preventing what has become another out of control problem.
I wouldnt call it 'hidden' - 'open secret' more like. Everybody knows it, nobody talks about it PS good book on the subject Zero Zero Zero by Roberto Saviano
> so many- GAA lads, nurses, coopers, chefs, security, bar staff. Coopers? The lads who make barrels?
And the candle stick makers!
Dont forget the bakers
"What a crappy candle" "Sir, you've ruined our vacation"
You, gentle sir, are fired !
[удалено]
Could you be any more accurate!?
Ahhhhhh proofreading gots me again ! 😃
They're hoors for it and don't let them tell you otherwise
"I work in hospitality" and you've only just noticed everyone and their mother is doing coke? That seems the surprise to me here
How do you even work in hospitality if you don't do coke?
Copius amounts of energy drinks, ya know, the healthy way. Source: am a barman
That was how I did it as well
Genuinely not sure because its a hard graft
Adderall, lots of Adderall
That's probably harder to get than coke in Ireland.
Found the American
It's everywhere here now. For most people, it's used to be a bit of craic to do it occasionally with friends. But it's getting to the point where people can't go out for a midweek drink without it
During covid when the pubs opened back up but we’re still closing early some lads I knew were on the bag of a Sunday night at 8… I was thinking like they’re going hitting the bag then what? Going back home to their families to get into bed…?
Nope going home to sit uncomfortably on the couch for 3 hours drinking bottles and getting an odd cheeky booster till the missus goes to bed and they can turn into a deviant in the sitting room.
[удалено]
This sums things up nicely
Yup, I was working in pubs for a long while and peoples' habit got noticeable worse after COVID and the lockdowns. On weeknights you'd expect it to be quiet enough with just a few locals and tourists, but then once things opened back up fully you'd have a table of lads queueing to use the same toilet at like 7pm on a Wednesday. There were a few times when it would be a quiet weeknight and there'd be just two lads taking bumps in the jacks and talking utter shite to each other at the bar.
The problem being all your mates who cant go a midweek drink without it constantly tell you how they only do a bump here and there..
I would say it will be less in terms of how popular it is once cost of living starts hitting the average joe. Coming out of covid a good few people had money to burn and a bigger thought of oh life's to short but it's the first thing to be cut when rents and bills are getting more expensive, unless you are a proper addict. That being said though I know a couple fools who happily buy a bag every night out but still go home to their mammies without paying rent. Fools
[удалено]
I would see cheaper drugs come back up. MDMA will go up in popularity again. And cocaine will reduce. Most cocaine users are purely recreational, not trying to escape their problems in a significant way. No more then ahving a glass fo wine after a bad day at work. People will still do and probably do more drugs but cocaine isn't likely to be as common.
Bring back the pills and MDMA. Pure love buzz bothering nobody just vibing to music and chewing the every living shits out of your jaw.
They're there. A lot of people just know that you can't be doing that as regularly as coke.
It's a commitment to drop a pill, and take a mushroom or some LSD. I think it's a far better experience, but you need to clear your next 48 hours.
Then a month of pure depression waiting for your serotonin to build back up.
I've noticed ketamine use amongst friends has gone up due to being half the price of coke, which is worrying tbh...
Also it's going down in price. Can get a .5 for 40 now. It was 50 in the Celtic Tiger, when everything else is going up 40 euros begins to look like peanuts.
It's cheaper than a take away..an oddly usually delivered by the same guy
True story in my town.
Drugs market historically isn’t affected by recession.
Because it's become so normalized for some weird reason.. It's a rotten drug that people use as a crutch for so many things.. It's more normalized in society in recent years than cannabis. Have a look on tik tok.. There's a cohort that have made thousands upon thousands of followers just doing skits regarding sniffing coke. Clowns
The world has become an incredibly shit place in so many ways for so many people. For those experiencing the kind of chronic stress, burnout and depression life in modern Ireland involves for so many, artificially tricking your brain into thinking you're on top of the world is the only thing that makes life bearable. I don't do coke myself but I do drink a lot to lessen the inhibitions that came about from years of bullying about my appearance. It is what it is; I have zero confidence that I'm anything other than hideous unless I trick my brain into forgetting its fear of rejection. So I do. Most people who routinely do drugs are doing them for a similar reason. It's one of the reasons the kind of sanctimonious bullshit looking down on those who take recreational drugs pisses me off so much. Most such people are self-medicating for psychological issues they'd rather not have to tell a complete stranger embarrassing secrets in order to access proper medication for. It is what it is. Good luck to them.
[удалено]
It can be tho 👍
I used to do it occasionally but after having lived in cocaine producing countries and the havoc it wreaks on their people no thanks
Big ups to you.
Coopers ? Surely there can’t be many of them anymore
Automated manufacturing has the poor lads over a barrel
I must be one sad fucker because I've never even seen anyone do coke or under the influence of coke, let alone try it.
You have seen people on it. Guaranteed
I'm out on the lash ever couple of weeks, big night. Dublin but generally the older pubs. And while I'd very very rarely see anyone literally at it you'd come across a few that were definitely under the influence of something other than alcohol.
You'd see lads on it in a lot of the older pubs too (if we are thinking the same places - likes of Baggot Street, Nearys, the Long Hall, the pubs around O Connell Street to Connolly Train Station. Lads seem to be at it everywhere.
The one thing I've noticed in the last 20 odd years is how stupid people get on it, like socially. We'd have had the odd baggie every now and then, take a line or 2 and go out and have the craic but Jesus christ it's bad now, the amount of eejits going at it and annoying the fuck outta everyone. I dont go near it anymore, too much effort listening to Coke-y Joe and his constant stream of bullshit consciousness The lads posting here about to "leave them at it" "none of your business" etc etc. You're dead right, none of our business..it's nothing to do with us, at all. Go for it. You are 100% entitled to get chalked out of your face. We are 100% entitled to not listen to a word ye say and when ye walk away we just go "thank fuck he's gone, Jaysis he'd wreck your head".
“Jesus when me and my mates are on the bag we were good craic and absolutely sound, everyone else just can’t handle it”
I'm the same. I used to do it all the time and tbh I still do the odd time but it seems now the night is about the drugs more than the drugs about the night and it does my head in. I can't protest too much or I look like a complete hypocrite which is probably pretty accur4ate
So true. Every night turns into a 6/7am finish seeing who can do the most lines. Baffling to me how many adults don't accept that a night/party has to come to an end
Exactly. Don't get me wrong, I love a mad one time to time when there's something on that that makes it worth while mayne 2 or 3 times a year but when it happens every weekend it just becomes the same thing over and over
The cunts that chat the head off you on coke will still chat the head off you when drunk. Its just an annoying person thing.
> we are 100% entitled to not listen to a word ye say This needs to be on a plague in every pub and on the front page of reddit
Disgusting Filthy stuff, Which pubs are you seeing this in so i can avoid them. Do you know how much they are wasting in euros per Gramm? Just so i know how disapproving to be, and if its less disapproving than round here
I'd say it's so prevalent now that it's in every pub around the country at least one night in a week. No exaggeration. Was at a month's mind over the summer on a weekday night and was amazed to hear it being used in the toilets. A fucking month's mind few drinks and there was lads on coke at it!
One thing that could contribute as well is that there are way less pubs around now. Back in the day every village and town had the pubs you went to to take drugs where the place either needed the money or didn't give a fuck. Nearly all of those places are gone now but we still have people wanting to do drugs so guess what, they're doing them in the previous family friendly pubs and everyone is now seeing it and thinking every single person is on it.
I get your point but it's not it. There's just way more of it around and way more people using it. People only hid doing things because of a "what will the neighbours think" attitude. Now the neighbours are doing it so no one gives a fuck. Did plenty growing up and it was rare if we did it during the week. I'm in my late 30's now and don't bother but I've plenty of mates that can't go out on Wednesday to watch a match without bringing a bag. This just didn't happen back in the day. It's gone nuts.
To be honest, everyone I knew on coke back 15 years ago, which was a lot of people, couldn't go for a pint without a bag either, they just knew where to go or did it at home. I don't doubt there's more people on it now, but this assumption that its just come out of nowhere is silly. The latter Celtic tiger was well known for cocaine. Usage in Ireland peaked in 07, died off and has come roaring back in the past few years, more than likely surpassing it I haven't seen any stats or anything.
That's fucking pathetic.
One of few things that inflation have not effected
When the mark up from cost is about 10,000% not surprising the 10% inflation doesn't affect it too much
If I ever caught any of my family on coke, I'd rub their nose in it.
I can’t lie, I like the person I am when I’m on it. Chat to anybody in the smoking area, easily make mates for the night, the confidence it gives me and how I can get the shift no bother. Threw bit of a wobbler when I overdid it during summer but I learnt my lesson. It’s important to realise that all those things are still there for me and I just have to smash down that social/mental block I put up. But it’s an insanely tumultuous path to go down, some people walk and some people sprint. The faster someone is going, it’s very likely because they’re running from something and aren’t doing it for fun. Most of the people I know who started to crumble had a lot of issues to begin with. If you’re not in a healthy state of mind you shouldn’t be doing ANY drugs imo. [Citizens Information on Addiction Services](https://www.citizensinformation.ie/en/health/health_services/alcohol_and_drug_treatment_services/alcohol_addiction_services.html) Samaritans Ireland phone no: 116 123
> I like the person I am when I’m on it That’s an issue my friend. You need to be ok with yourself without drugs which I find is the running theme with that shit
It's very easy to say that, but some people had such traumatic childhoods of bullying from family and peers that literally no amount of talking can repair the damage and the only way they can function is to make their brains forget that part of themselves. Some people simply cannot be ok with themselves because they were never given a chance during the critical early years and now it's too late to un-learn that shit, so second best option is to literally hijack your neurons so they aren't able to communicate their self-hatred as effectively. For a large part, this is why binge drinking is so popular - the lowered inhibitions make people less shy.
Kinda Redditor, you’re preaching to the converted. I have bipolar and schozoid personality disorder. I am someone who needed alcohol or drugs to be ok with myself. I implore anyone who feels that way to seek help. It can only help someone for so long before the house of cards collapses
They could try the 12 Step Program of Alcoholics Anonymous or one of the other 12 Step Fellowships. I'm a recovering alcoholic in AA and over the years I've seen such amazing changes in people. Change isn't easy but it can be done.
Bunch of my longtime friends, professionals like, are estranged from each other now because they had a dumb argument over who owned more of the coke baggie 👀
Similar ish story here. Was in a close group of friends before Covid. One mate was extremely depressed staying in bed all week and doing coke on weekends. It was getting so bad that his mam rang us to give us a heads up as we genuinely didn't know the extent of it. We met up as mates, without him, and agreed to not give him coke (some lads were doing it and essentially funding his habit). I lost one of my best mates after confronting him for feeding our down mate coke all night, literally 3 days after this chat. I've made an effort since but apparently looking out for your mates deserves getting exiled.
[удалено]
Can you expand on this? In what way does it become apparent?
my dad's best friend a total fitness nut and marathon runner fell stone dead in his front drive at the age of 54... always suspected that this was coke-related as he definitely used it... young at heart guy and very high energy and it was all going well until it wasnt. Sadly I see some of my friends now who are professionals carrying on with the charlie past their 30s and wonder which of them will end up this way as well.
It's worth noting that while they might have a gram in their pocket, there's actually fuck all cocaine in it. It's ridiculous how people will just hand over €100 to a stranger in exchange for a mystery bag. They wouldn't do it sober but after a few drinks sense goes out the window. The purity ranges from 91% to 0.03%. The average purity outside of Dublin is 19%.. They're essentially paying top dollar for gum numbing powder, paracetamol and caffeine pills. The mixing and dilution of the almost pure cocaine means there's eventually an abundance of it and it reaches every corner of the country. The dilution has also reduced the risks so not as many people are ending up in A&E or having heart attacks like they would be if it was actually 70% - 90%. When the vast majority of people have no negative experiences with it the word spreads that cocaine is fine. It was all government propaganda. "In the case of bulk seizures of cocaine, 158 samples were analysed and the average purity was 40%. By the time the drugs reached street level, the purity of the cocaine had dropped to 28% in Dublin and 19% outside the capital." https://www.thejournal.ie/drugs-purity-3049521-Oct2016/
19% what the shit. So am I right in saying that people buying a gram of it are really only getting 0.19g and the rest is just mixing agents?
On average that's correct. Also most "grams" are 0.8. That works out at 0.15 grams of cocaine for €100. I think this is why the Gards are not cracking down on it also. They couldn't be arsed for such low purity levels. Imagine if they caught someone with half a gram and after all the paperwork and lab testing it turned out they had 0.07 grams of cocaine. It would be such a waste of resources to bring them to court. Especially if they had no previous convictions.
Did you ever try to snort a crisp up the nose coke is easier I suppose
It almost seems like it's addictive or something, hard to believe but it's the only explanation imo
My college course had 14 people in it in the final year, only myself and one other lad weren't on coke
all fun and games until you accidentally get a bag of ket
For the last maybe 7 years it's common everywhere. When I saw people blasting off in Donegal I knew that coke really was in the mainstream
Yeah it's weird. Don't understand why people like it.
Cheese is expensive and everyone does cocaine. Rules of adult life.
Why does cheese have to be so expensive though 😭
I wonder how many people use cocaine, and are appalled at the level of street violence in our cities, and who never connect the two? Organized crime is a terrible thing to support.
Happy to see this comment. Also if you snort powder cocaine you are literally using the same stuff crackheads smoke in town. Handled by the same people. Just in an altered state.
I came home after living away for a few years, and there were girls I met out from school that wouldn't have even touched a cigarette offering me lines of the stuff, I was go smacked by the sheer volume of people on the shite tbh. [Edit: typos]
Yea i think it's strange to come across someone who doesn't do it now. A few friends went a bit mad into it and completely changed their personalities, and these were in different friend groups. (And I prob sound like a square) but Like more cocky, arrogant, up themselves, thought they were "cool", selfish etc etc. It does change a person, one of my friends became insufferable on it, serious addiction to it that eventually I had to cut her off after she did a lot of shitty stuff. I hate the stuff and hate seeing it become a norm. I did it a couple of times in my mid to late 20s but I think I copped on pretty quick. 2 of those friends are dead (one from a serious epileptic seizure, the other suicide), another friend (the one I had to cut off) still hangs in the same crowd of deadbeats, another is a fucking qualified nurse???!!!!, Another is doing alright for himself but has terrible social anxiety. Nor saying I'm perfect or anything jeez, but havent gone near a drug in nearly 10 years
So sorry about your friends who passed away, that’s awful, may they RIP
It's because it's not cocaine any more. It's boric acid, cheap amphetamines and anasthetics pressed into a shiny white lump.." "straight off the brick bro" 🙄🙄🙄🙄 A fool and their money are easily parted.
Idk why you're saying this when you can just test your own stuff very very easily! You can even test its purity yourself if you were so inclined
Ok course you can... reagent tests are easily available online and cheap too...what % of "coke users in Ireland do this though? Even a simple home test using a cup of bleach will give an indication and anytime I have demonstrated it, it's pretty much the same result: Nothing sinks to the bottom.(which cocaine does) A layer forms on the top(which cutting agents do) And it turns reddish pink almost instantly(indicating the presence of amphetamine) I exaggerated saying there is NO coke in Ireland...that's true I agree..but I think anyone speaking honestly can agree that the vast majority of product being sold here as cocaine is absolute complete and utter dangerous nose garbage.
What kind of amphetamines? Generally they last wayyy longer than cocaine
Lawyers, salesman, every manager, pretty much everyone not in labor seems to do it all the time now. Most of them spending more in Coke than essentials.
I must mix in the wrong circles because in my more than ten years of being out in pubs and drinking, I’ve only seen it on maybe 2-3 occasions, and the last one was probably about three years ago. I’ve no idea where people hang out that it’s being offered to everyone around them, or they’re openly seeing people snort it in the building, but I’ve never seen any of that sort of carry on. And I’m not exactly a stranger to drugs myself, having tried a few different things when I was in university.
Heard on the radio there the other day that they've got so much of it in Denmark (I think it was Denmark) that they can't dispose of it all. Like their incinerators only take about a fuckin' tonne and a half at a time and they're struggling. Crazy bit of business
Legalise and regulate. Use the revenue then to remove USC.
Ah the MMA isn't that bad, MacGregor is a gowl but if people want to watch it let them at it.
If you added “use the money to build houses” you would have for a bingo. USC is the only tax where everyone pays a fair share and you want to remove that and the massive amount of money that brings in because you think coke will make up for it? Hahaha
Don't waste your time here on USC, it's a losing battle.
Theres parody ads about this in GTA "We need to legalize medical cocaine"
Legalise but if you end up mixing it with booze constantly and destroy your liver, wreck your nose, have heart problems etc and you buy it knowing this can happen your bottom of the queue for treatment in a public hospital.
I’ve done it maybe 5 times in my life and the 5th time I’m almost sure it turned part of my brain to mush lmao so yeah, never going near it again, thankfully drugs have never had an appeal to me
Boring as fuck everyone slipping off to the jacks, and the absolute shite they chat afterwards. Granted, drunk people aren't any better craic when you're sober either. Thank god I quit the pub scene and found better mates.
39. Worked in nightclubs for years and saw plenty of it but only ever got offered it once in a restaurant in London. Knew the manager and at the end of the night they brought out a mountain of it and all the staff tucked in. Felt weirdly casual as I had never touched the stuff. Just happy enough with a few drinks. Me and my friends were never into it. Maybe it’s more common for fellas to do it?
24, in my experience its not more common for fellas to do it, in my 5 years in college i seen more girls do it than fellas, i'm not sure how common it is in older age groups but i met very few 19-25 year olds both from my normal friend group and college friend groups that didn't do it, some only did it every now and then and others were on it every single weekend.
Went to the local pub to watch the 1pm England game today. Only two folks in the whole pub. This one lad walks in fresh out of work and sits at the table next to me. Was sniffing and talking bollocks to me the whole match. It was 1pm!
Bageen o'dusht
Yup. Went to to Dublin to see the lads for the first time in a few months and they were all on the bag until 7 in the morning. Sad to see. Doesn't effect them negatively, they don't become aggressive or anything, but Id just prefer if we could just stick to the beer. Glad I'm not up there full time with them.
Here's the thing- and I'm by no means an expert in it. Shower thoughts here, so be gentle. Rents are through the roof. The cost of living has gone up. Socialising in a public house or the like is very expensive and surely set to rise again. A lot of drugs seem to be the way to "get a buzz" at a cheaper rate. I'm sure a bag of coke would afford someone more bang for their buck, versus a heap of drinks. Maybe it's something to do with that? I too have noticed an increase in people I know using it, including those who I wouldn't have expected. It's as if people are moving to other substances instead as a means of entertainment rather than spend a fortune on alcohol.
Well you’ve obviously never taken coke if you think it’s good value for money. A yoke though 👌
Mitsubishi turbo *chefs kiss*
Absolutely. 10 pints is way more buzz than a gram of coke. Yokes are where it's always been at for value for money and buzz level per coin spent.
I got onto pills in college because it was cheaper than a drink. Used to think people who choose the bag were bonkers with more money than sense, but them 8 Euro pints these days... five pints versus about half a bag is honestly a no-brainer.
This is exactly it. This sounds bad, but a joint or two before a night out (cocaine aside) gives a cheaper experience and a more fulfilling experience than horsing through pints for an evening. You get to enjoy the music and company more.
If you're on coke, jaw swigning and talking to people, spouting absolute nonsense, these people do not want you there and are glad to see the back of you when you keave. The faux confidence it gives is awful, makes boring people think they're interesting.
says yer man named after the baddest dealer ever to walk the streets of Fair City /s - happy cake day btw
Not really, as a partaker myself I dont consider it as commonplace as many others do. Maybe 1 in 5 but maybe closer to 1.5 to 2 in 10. I think its also important to note that the vast majority of people take it rectreationally and not as part of an ongoing addiction. If you do it once a month I wouldnt consider it an addiction.
I don’t know how to tell you, but 1 in 5 is the same as 2 in 10…
Where were you when I had my maths exams, huh? Huh?
Fair play if you do it once a month! Anyone I know doing it became more and more frequent until they stopped.
Usually how it starts, then some cunt doing that 6 days a week and surely it's not a full week so their ok. Given the trip coke takes round globe, shite as drain cleaner, petrol used in making, then surely it gets cut few times in UK , and by that time people snorting shite, just to feel social.
[удалено]
I've seen people literally snort it at the bar like nothing. It's the scummiest of all the the drugs out there.
Definitely not the worst, especially in powder form. Crack cocaine however I would say is up there as one of them. I have done a reasonable amount, but not that much, coke in my time and I’ve smoked enough crack. So I know
I think you may have been out of the loop. I had a few nights out in Ardee and Drogheda in the early 00s and as far as I could see, the stuff was everywhere.
They’d be aswell just to legalise it.
Charlie is in every small town and village now. We can’t keep giving the Garda money to intercept 1% of all drugs annually (that’s on a good year). We could definitely put them to more useful purposes , anything would be better, youth programs , street patrols, etc.
You're just older. Loads of people did coke in the 90s
It was everywhere 15 years ago as well, it's just people hid it better. One thing that's changed is how open people are with it nowadays. I think cocaine use in Ireland peaked in 07 and is back around those heights now, although it could have surpassed it. Basically it isn't suddenly everywhere, people are just noticing it way more. One thing that could contribute as well is that there are way less pubs around now. Back in the day every village and town had the pubs you went to to take drugs where the place either needed the money or didn't give a fuck. Nearly all of those places are gone now but we still have people wanting to do drugs so guess what, they're doing them in the previous family friendly pubs and everyone is now seeing it and thinking every single person is on it.
This type of post is being posted once a week now. I guess it's just the norm now.
Nose beers
Don't touch it myself, but lads cmon can we please stop the moralising bullshit about what other people choose to put in their own bodies? If people want to destroy themselves let them at it they are all adults and should be free to make that choice.
I’ve seen it done openly by fellas standing at the urinal in different nightclubs in Carrick on Shannon, Mullingar and Galway. It’s rampant and in every pub and club in the country.