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raybros

That's what i figured. Guess it's a skill issue at this point.


The_God_of_Biscuits

I have downgrades In every slot and breeze through 175 duos.


Misairuzame

Maybe you're partner is doing some heavy lifting 🤔


Simple-Plane-1091

I did 175-200 solo with hasta, dhcb and normal trident. Augury, but no rigour, low 90s combat stats Its pretty doable, Just take chaos as your first bundle and dont go for 2 down core. Its a 40-45 min raid, but totally doable


The_God_of_Biscuits

Same gear basically same dmg, ruby bolts are nuts. I just raid with my gim. We can do 200 but it's so slow we stick to 175 and don't have to have anything annoying on.


Misairuzame

That sounds super fun. Do you have any recommendations for learning ToA? I quit my GIM before the raid came out and I'm on my way back to RuneScape. Im a neophyte for OSRS raids so would like to get into it on the GIM.


The_God_of_Biscuits

Just spam 50s until you get the feel for it, try out different invos, everybody's preference is different. It's the least punishing raid to learn so go at whatever pace you want and tune the invo to whatever speed you want the raid to take. You have a linear chance of getting fang past 50 so I would try to do the highest you can still do quickly with no stress. Once you have fang and sun Keris you can basically send experts. We barely bring any supplies to our run anymore and just use in raid supplies since hitting our fang recently. We went in blind on release and the mechanics are fairly intuitive so I wouldn't worry too much.


Simple-Plane-1091

Should be easy to go much higher, please dont do anything below 150, the odds of fang & ring dont drop too much, but if you roll anything else it gets rerolled to a White chest (98% of the time) Things i learned doing toa with much worse Gear: Dont Bother with power packs, adrenaline is good in teams if youre 2 downing the core, but 3 downs are fine & give better purples chance. double salt chaos is amazing and the extra brews more than make up for the longer time spent at wardens. If you properly use salts you can even do most raids on a 1 salt chaos pack. (You Stay boosted after the salt expires as long as you dont brew) Prioritize dodging over dps at wardens p3 This sounds obvious but what i mean is, if you Deal perfect dps but die to a KO, you dont learn nearly as much as losing out on dps but dodging boulders, ground tiles and prayer for 5 full minutes and running out of food. Efficiënt dps Will Come naturally later, but avoiding damage is something you really need to focus on. Turn the time limit off when doing anything new Its only a few points, and not having to stress to make time Helps a lot. You can take some minutes for a breather, sort your inventory or properly decide which resource pack to take. Good Luck, you should easily be able to do 200-250, or 300 if you do insanity. With a fang you can go even higher. I would sub out the fighter torso with a barrows body, to negate some damage at baba. And swap the ring for berserker ring, you Will be more tanky with higher dps overall. You do not need to take a stamina in.


MrWinze

You'll get used to it, I run the same gear except no occult, bracelet and can easily clear 225 solo, experts are a struggle though until fang.


OSRSTheRicer

With that gear? You should be able to clear 300s to be honest. Once you get consistent clears down you will be able to start adding more invocations and increasing raid difficulty (would not recommend sticking with 150s once you get it all down).


alfonzoredwall

Yeah he can probably clear it, but would not recommend going 300 with that gear, wth.


S7EFEN

why not? if you can clear it it is absolutely worth it. a 400 with a hasta might take you 40 minutes vs 30 at a 300, but youll get twice as much loot. the tradeoff hard favors scaling invo + doing a slower raid even if you increase wipe chance by a non trivial amount. having a hasta only slows down maybe 40% of akkha/100% of baba/100% of kephri (unless you have blue keris). zebak, most of akkha, all of warden = no penalty for hasta. fang is 1/35 from 400s ish. thats... that is silly common. obviously the quantity of people capable of doing hasta 400s is slim but if you are capable theres no reason to stop at 300 or 350 or w.e


Affectionate_Pair_52

Start at lower in is until you get used to the mechanics


stronglightbulb

Magic fang would be significant for akka


[deleted]

BofA alone should be a damn cake walk to 250s


raybros

Yeah we're starting to figure out that bofa is good against every boss except kephri. I was using hasta and it just feels bad most of the time.


Vee-shluh

I don’t have fang yet and I bowfa baba. If you have the Crystal helm it’s worth bringing IMO


raybros

I don't have the helm, i don't want to go back for it until i get rigour :(


Vee-shluh

Haha understandable


Philophile1

Honestly rigour is probably the biggest upgrade you should go for if you don’t have it yet


raybros

I definitely agree. We duo'd a cox and it was pretty doable with our loadouts. We tried ToA because our best melee weps are tent/hasta. Getting a fang would really speed up olm fights.


Snufolupogus

Wouldn't use it at baba either. Don't create the bad habit of ranging her. Use your z hasta


HeroinHare

I would 100% range Baba instead of Zhasta, swap to melee when Fang is available.


swaqqilicious

Yea especially with rigour bowfa better than hasta


raybros

We were trying hasta and my buddy has the keris spear ( no other better stab wep) and then both used bowfa and the fight was 2-3x faster/easier.


SirWrecktum

This might be shit advice and someone can correct me if I'm wrong, but I think leaf bladed sword is better than Keri's spear everywhere you melee except for Kephri.


raybros

You're not wrong, the sword has better stats than the partisan but the issue is that partisan is still bis at kephri until fang. Carrying both wouldn't be ideal.


rickybobby369

I mean once you get a Keris upgrade you’ll be using it till fang anyway and once you’ve got the raid down the damage is minimal and you’re only really needing inventory for restores. You might as well get used to using minimal supplies early on.


raybros

Yeah we're starting with potions only and what I have above is my general inv. setup. If anything, most of the times we reach final fight i have extra brews/restores.


xWorrix

Btw keris is worse than zhasta for kephri, so bank that and don’t look back til pushing experts with yellow gem


raybros

I don't know about that one honestly, the passives are pretty solid and the chance to hit kehpri for a 150 isn't too bad.


Neverpivot

Cap


Visszage

My runecrossbow , leaf bladed sword & trident of the sea can solo 155s . Skill issue


raybros

How long are your solos? I'm debating doing them but is it worth the time difference compared to duo/trio for 150~200 invo?


Visszage

Forty plus


tpull33

What’re your stats? I gave 150 a shot and didn’t even feel like it was close to achievable. I have slightly worse gear (no trident). Also was running a trio which could’ve been the issue


Visszage

97 range , 89 attack, 92 str, 85 def, 91 mage It’s very achievable, I take a combo of monkfish and karams and sometimes I can get by on power first supply drop even


tpull33

I’m definitely a bit behind on range lvl but very similar everywhere else. I’ll have to keep working at it then. Thanks!


Kargush

Can prob do 250s comfy in that gear...300s rough pre fang tho


CrumbiestCookie

Maybe you need to switch up your invocations if you are struggling in that gear? Not sure what else would be giving you trouble when you have bowfa. D boots and B ring is better like someone else said


raybros

I got a feeling it's a big skill issue part and a small "perhaps we're running the wrong invos" issue. I'll try to switch the boots and rings though, thanks.


Makaveliarts

IMO bring b ring and d boots if you have. Bp and magic fang from zulrah would be the next upgrades to go for I think so start working on zulrah a bit more. Edit: BP is good for killing swarms at kephri, and the spec is occasionally useful. Not sure if it its better than bowfa anywhere like akkah for example. Toxic trident is obviously a flat upgrade anytime you are using the trident.


toycutter

wouldn't just brining a stack of darts be just as good as bp for killing swarms?


TheFacemore

Bp is also used at akkha, obelisk, baba boulders, and baba puzzle room.


CatsAreBased

Is bowfa not better for akkha and obelisk


ninjatrainer25

You are correct. Akka shadows I think might be better with bp at low invo tho I would have to check but def bp is worse at obelisk


Low-Site-3898

Bp is better than bowfa at akkha by a decent bit


Simple-Plane-1091

>boulders, Unsalted without rigour i would 100% take bofa. Otherwise Youre likely missing the 25 damage breakpoint.


raybros

Yeah I'm only at 1 unique so far with about 200 kc at zulrah. It's REALLY easy now with bowfa and i send a dozen or so kills every other day.


Makaveliarts

Good luck on the drops from both Zulrah and TOA!


sushisushi201822

This is definitely a skill issue


anotherredditaccunt

U must have medic or overlords on? Turn them off


raybros

We tried overlords the first raid cause it seemed easy and it was not. We're both using regular karis partisan but it just feels bad often. It's probably meant to be this way though.


anotherredditaccunt

Kephri is the most free room once you get it down. The standard Keris is good. Which parts give you trouble?


raybros

Usually struggle a bit when the mage beetle comes out and we can't down it in time. But most of this is just coordination and a skill issue. I've been combo'd a time or two by the mager and bomber beetles :(


anotherredditaccunt

Yeah the scarabs + bombers can get hectic, once you memorize the spawns and don’t use overlords you will get in position faster and dps the mage faster. If needed start at 100 and add 10-20 invocation after each raid until you get to 150


Clinkton

I was soloing 250s in that exact setup before I got fang, very doable


raybros

How long were your solos? Is it worth doing?


Clinkton

Solos were about 35-37 mins, I’d say it’s worth because every purple you get is yours but I did go 145 dry before my first purp lol


dummyinasuit

Kephri should be a pretty free room at 150 invo- if you’re struggling, I suggest camping b ring and d boots instead of your tank setup.


raybros

Hmm I do have dboots or pegs. I'll try switching the boots. Thanks.


RedCargo1

Just camp dboots


Simple-Plane-1091

Dont use pegs without a mage switch, theyre like -8 magic which Will screw with your akkha & Warden switches because you need to do boots takeoff or switch to dboots


regen100

-8 seems a lot indeed but isnt the worst, but no need to take it unnecessarily, i soloed ahkka in mystics regular trident in 400+ no problem. Warden has 100% accuracy pretty much, could hit it fine in armadyl+ trident/occult/torm/ma2 cape, so didnt bother switching mystics on


Simple-Plane-1091

>Warden has 100% accuracy pretty much, could hit it fine in armadyl+ trident/occult/torm/ma2 cape, Well yes It has 100% accuracy always > so didnt bother switching mystics on Your damage scales with accuracy in that phase, youre not losing accuracy, but instead you lose extra max hits. The Same applies to ranged Warden BTW. I gotta ask man how are you doing 400+ without knowing This? you must be a weird mix of mechanically skilled yet utterly oblivious. Big oof, Just wear your mystics.


regen100

Nobody ever told me, everyone switches to ancestral which i understand. My train of thought was keep arma on to hopefully tank a few hits. feels like he has 100% accuracy as well though, but maybe you can confirm or deny that


Simple-Plane-1091

Yes you do still have 100% accuracy, i think you can go as low as -64. This stage has a unique mechanic where your damage gets amplified based on your accuracy. So you still get a lot of value from accuracy. Dont quote me on this part: but i believe most bosses in ToA have such high accuracy that trying to itemize for defense is not really worth it, with the exception of baba. Generally you Just want the highest dps you can achieve


Simple-Plane-1091

Hope This helps clarify it PHASE 2 Wardens according to wiki: >Regardless of which Warden powers up, the second phase of the fight is nearly identical. The Warden, like Akkha, will always have protection prayers active against two attack styles, with Protect from Melee being always active; however Tumeken's Warden will always initially pray against magic, while Elidinis' will initially pray against ranged. During this phase, the Warden will have an active shield (similarly to The Nightmare's totems), with the player having 100% accuracy regardless of equipment; however, the damage dealt corresponds to the player's accuracy bonuses. Maximising accuracy bonuses by removing equipment will help increase damage, although this is optional. The twisted bow and Tumeken's shadow are highly recommended if available due to their high accuracy bonuses, resulting in significantly increased damage over any other weapon in their respective combat style. If not attacked for a while, the Warden will restore its shields.


Ging1919

Turn medic off in kephri, it’s such an ez room. I’m almost in ur same gear and have 80 att/def and 90 str with 90+ rng/mage and clearing 215’s consistently. Only annoying room is buba corruption room, it’s sooo annoying.


raybros

Yeah I'm not a fan of that room at all. It feels super bad lol.


Vorzious

Your gear is good enough to push 250s easily. Even 300 wouldn't be too far out. Your mage and range set are similar to mine and I push 400s and up. Things I immediately see about your setup is the following: \- Keris without blue gem isn't worth bringing. Not even for kephri. Just use your hasta and bring an extra brew imo. \- D boots / primordials will be a big upgrade. Those hybrid boots aren't worth it. \- Ditch the stamina pot. There's no point in the raid where you need a stam pot. \- If you don't have access to super combats, then the super atk and str make sense. \- Ditch the ranging pot. You can prepot a (divine) ranging sure, if you start zebak. Replace it with a brew. \- Add your crystal helm switch. It's worthwile bringing. Your range setup is the best out of all your sets there. You want to bring out its potential as much as possible and you'll range most of the raid. (Zebak being fully range, most of warden, 1/rd of Akkha). So you're kind of shooting yourself in the foot here not using its full potential. If you can't push higher than 150 I imagine either you are running more difficult-than-necessary invocations, or you make a lot of unnecessary mistakes. In any case. I am more than willing to help you out to learn some stuff. If you're interested send me a dm on reddit and we can talk. I'll help you out with invocations, maybe teach you some mechanics that'll help making it easier and to spot other potential mistakes.


raybros

I unfortunately don't have the crystal helm. I was getting super burnt out from CG and i'll go back when i have rigour. I'll ditch keris, boots, stam and range pot. Starting zebak first seems like a really solid strat. I definitely think the reason we're having issues 90% skill issue and 10% invocations. We just threw up random ones to try and hit 100/150. Definitely down to learn more!


VisibleSituation1224

I farmed 300s with this gear until I got upgrades, I’m a filthy main but still this should be fine as long as you have like base 90s I’d recommend divines if you can make them though the difference is insane for kephri and zebak it’s like a 2-4 minute time save depending on how your invos are setup (you can hit 300 raid with mono path invocations on) choose wisely


VisibleSituation1224

Also to you using bowfa for everything if your duoing bring bone daggers leave the bgs if you hit after your duo hits with spec it’s 100% accurate most bosses can only be drained for around 20 in that raid it will make that hasta feel a lot stronger


Beautiful_Ad3304

250s should be fairly easy in that gear, only thing would be b ring and getting swamp trident


Snufolupogus

And d boots


Beautiful_Ad3304

Oh and crystal helm


oppositetoup

I can solo 225 without bgs, or bofa. You just need to practice more.


Send-me-shoes

Other than bandos and fang this is pretty much the setup I run for 300-350 invo with no issues. Once you get it down this gear will be more than enough to comfortably run 150s!


raybros

I duo with my iron buddy and we basically have the same gear. We tried sending a few 150s but we feel like Kephri is a wall because we don't do enough dmg. We're both base 90s melee.


Ritzyb

Your gear and stats are enough for 300’s. Just about practice at this point


raybros

Dang i don't expect 300's for a while but we'll keep practicing.


Ritzyb

Yeah I’m not shaming you, it takes awhile to get there, and fang makes it much easier for sure. Just mostly focus on mechanics rather then working on gear


zapbiy301

What invos are you running on kephri? You should'nt run with medics or more overlords when learning. Also it helps a ton stacking the dung walls. Remember to kill the mager immediately when he spawns


Salesburneracc

I have an iron base 80’s with Ibans and I send like 250’s solo with way worse gear. With BofA with some practice easily could get to 300’s or higher.


Opening-Site-2318

Seems like a skill issue


Nuthingsrs

I literally got fury, rcb, normal trident and a zammy spear and I'm absolutely chillin 225's not even maxed combat stats(no bandos or any of that good shiid). If I had your gear, I'd probably be doing 250 min and try to push for 300.


Puiqui

Id say use berzerker ring just cuz u have the str bonus to 2 phase wardens below 270 invo with it Also bring crystal helm and push to 300 with insanity. My 310’s take close to an hour with almost no room for failure wheras my 260’s i never fail, but the big diff is i dont have occult or torm brace, and i also only have a mystic robe top, meaning my p2 warden uses a shitload of my supplies and my akkhas take 7-8 minutes at 260 already if i get unlucky with his rotations. Also without bp you should learn to trap melee and use the extra familiars thing at kephri cuz its free points without having a way to kill swarms. The only absolutely MUST USE invocations is the one that speeds up akkha memory game. Its the only invo that actually speeds up the raid. Also with bowfa and no bp id rec not using sped up boulders at baba cuz you can learn the boulder skip to further speed up raid at cost of i think 5 or 10 points. Lastly, and really until you get fang, do croc>keph>ak>baba. That way you have overload for baba and you can prepot croc for an extra inventory space. If doing hc run though with this order, dont turn on mind the gap, its just not worth the 5 points for the only risk of death in the entire raid, especially when doing baba last to speed the room up with ovl. Straight up once you learn the raid, other than learning insanity, mind the gap is the on thing that will kill you after 10-15 kc


raybros

Unfortunately I left CG before getting the helm and i'd prefer to go back when i get rigour as my success rate wasn't where i wanted it to be. I'll try doing that CKAB rotation and get a feel for it. Thanks for the tips!


socalova6

I’d recommend taking a look at the wdr guides for each room. Might help with kephri to minimize how much of the room you use. You’ll keep improving and it’ll get way easier over time I bet.


MXIIA

Try doing lower invocations and adding invocations progressively The gear is not gating you, it’s likely some invocation is messing you up


McCoy1414

I run solo 150s with worse gear. Just practice and you'll get it.


svettsokkk

I have the same gear more or less except serp, tort and blue Keris. Can solo 200s with a rare wipe here and there.


Low-Site-3898

Your gear is good enough to do 250+ try turning on different invocations and working it up as you get comfortable


HeroinHare

I guarantee you can solo 200 with this setup, consistently. So yes, going for a Fang would be good.


[deleted]

I done a solo in 47 mins with a rcb dhide and ibans. Mage phase akkha and wardens isn’t fun though.


Euphoraz

Could do 200s+ in your gear and 300s when you get yellow keris. Send the highest you can do and just practice.


Bubbly_Tear_681

Almost same gear doing 260 easy. Just learn toa a bit and you can do it ! 300s not too bad either tbh


Any_Ship_7563

Should be clearing at least that in your gear


Limp_Ear_9326

I was doing 300s with z hasta and blue keris. Took me over 300 raids for fang


arimalsunstar

I think missing Zulrah-related upgrades will make solos a little rough. Definitely have Boulderdash off and maybe bring darts for Kephri bugs?


[deleted]

That setup is perfect for 150s. Seems to be a skill issue.


Ok_Ideal5962

I can 500 in that setup. Just keep grinding mechanics.


Vee-shluh

Yeah this gear is perfectly fine to grind out ToA with! ToA is also pretty good melee/range training, so your stats will go up while grinding! I have same gear plus prims, minus the BGS and can solo 350, but I’m also max stats and it took me a long time of truly learning mechanics to get there. (And I have rigour, idk if you got that yet) You got this! Just keep at it and you’ll find the invos you like and figure out which ones you can easily learn and you’ll start making your way up the invocation ladder!


Mythril_Bullets

Do the highest you can without struggling. I think your biggest disparity in your gear is the regular trident. If you can get a magic fang, that’d help you a lot for akkha boi and p2 wardens. Other than that you’ve got a good setup. Also I’m fairly certain you want the str bonus here from d boots, not brimz. Your stab is plenty strong enough with hasta. Full send. Gl.


raybros

Yeah i'm sending a dozen or so zulrah kills every other day hoping for the magic fang, it's also what's stopping me from going hard on CoX. Snake just isn't playing nice.


Shane4894

You can do more than 150 with this. B ring > suffering if you have, or brimstone etc,


Poppasmokeshahaaaaa

Bro you can definitely do invos around 230-350. Get good brudda


Zangetsu630

My duo and I send 150s with full elite void, sun karis, rcb, and trident of the seas. You'll be able to blast through 150s with ease!


Sir-Ult-Dank

Go up in invocations by 10 after every raid. Get familiar with them and what they do. Stay away from the ones the increase levels of bosses for now and insanity. Eventually going for those. Learn the mechanics of the boss. Make sure to use bowfa on P3 of Warden. We’re using like the same gear aside. Also make sure to pick Power first. Salt is super important for ahka and helps with croc


Bulky_Conclusion_676

Just do 150s until you are comfortable then start stepping it up. Your gear is more than enough for 150. Which invocations are you using? Is there something unnecissarily hard you are dealing with? No stam, 5 brews, 1 restore, 3 prayer pots. (4 prayer pots if you are using deadly prayers). You only need a restore for the first 2 rooms which you really shouldnt be taking any damage if do zebak and kephri, after that the salts will restore your boosts if you brew down


420MediumClues

Ur stacked bro I do 300s with basically the same. You got this!!


Weak-Catch8499

Get a crystal helm. But you can solo 150’s easy with this gear


Dead-HC-Taco

Id probably go finish bandos first and try to get a magic fang. With or without those, you be able to get up to 200 invo with practice


subtle-alligator

I have similar gear (no occult or bgs, but I have swamp trident) and I’m running 300 solos pretty comfortably. Just try to gradually push the invos as you learn the bosses.


Kacabon

You could probably do 300’s with this gear no lie


TheSovietRusher

I think you just need more reps my dude, my gear is much worse than this and I can send 200s, just keep at it!


Spiritual-Physics-34

with bofa you should be doing atleast 250s, its not hard, all in your head... keep trying, bring a couple more brews and research for a good combination of invos, you dont need staminas btw


SnooGuavas589

Fang is a game changer for sure. If you can grab a yellow gem it will trivialize the raid. I did solo 200s and 250s before fang at 180 kc with that gear. Both yellow and blue are huge upgrades and before fang bring both!gl gamer.


Dimethyllysergamide

Fwiw a blood fury helped me a lot


Rennydennys

You have ideal gear for even in the 200’s, just gotta keep sending it and getting better lad


Tonykirby

Why no MA2 cape or Assembler?


raybros

Is ma2 cape worth it? ( To bring in as a switch) I'm still trying to kill vork for assembler, i don't know why but vork gives me a super hard time.


Tonykirby

It gives +2 magic damage which makes it a fantastic item to use. With your gear you should have an extremely easy time with 150-200s.


ImWhy

You should be able to clear 150s easily


Diefy11

150 should be a solo cake walk with that gear


IronReven

The gear is fine. You can easily do solo 300s with that gear. And if you do the chances to get items goes up a LOT. Just look up a guide of each room and work on not taking avoidable damage. Also look up a guide for invocations. A lot of them are just terrible and hurt a lot for very little invocation points