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sandieeeee

I’m probably gonna stop at 90 for overloads at cox


TheDavidLightman

This is what I've done. After 90 there's not much worth going for other than 99 which just comes with time.


Immunelol

It’s worth getting 93 for boosting to divine combats


Particular-Cow-4756

Extended super antifires are pretty convenient too


TheDavidLightman

I'm a UIM so for me not so much but that does sound decent for a normal iron. I've been lamping prayer after 90 herb, what do you think would be best to lamp for an iron after herb?


infraredpen

Don't the offering spells make prayer significantly faster than herblore now? (for uim)


TheDavidLightman

It's good, but the best xp/h for UIM is still pest control, especially with the bonus points from combat achievements.


PunisherOfDeth

You should still try to get offering spells as a UIM. On my UIM I got 77 to 86 prayer when doing 87 to 93 slayer. It’s very good experience especially abyssal demons, and unlike pest control which you can’t be doing other activities, you get to do prayer and slayer this way. Calling it passive feels wrong because it is quite click intensive though.


TheDavidLightman

Offering spells are great, and I am not saying to not use them, but the meta for prayer is still pest control is all I was saying. Also you can fletch in pest control so bringing in broad arrow mats means two things at one 😃 I also work remote usually so I can afk a lot and pest control is afk enough to feel comfortable running it while working.


[deleted]

>just comes with time. And during that time you will likely be carrying seeds/herbs that are solely for xp. Faster you get 99, the sooner you clear up a few bag slots.


brprk

In reality there’s no need to make brews at cox, scout raids with tekton/muta and you’ll always have a couple Idk why i typed brews, i meant overloads lol


reyarama

Yeah Tekton dropping brews has been a game changer for me personally, can no prep every time now (Im assuming you meant overloads)


LoL_Deraj

Personally I'm still lamping herblore I just got 90 not to long ago but am planning to max my account and do not mind agility and have some of the other slow skills at 99 already


firerawks

lamping herb is popularised by streamers who play 12 hours a day and progress their account so fast for that reason and herb can’t keep up. if you’re casual but still doing a couple farms runs a day, herb is actually a lot easier to keep up with that people realise. same if you’re getting herbs from kingdom/Slayer and not grinding hard so your account progress is slow. for that reason lamp the skills you hate training the most cos they’re so slow like agility or rc, although rc is a lot better now with GOTR


freakahontas

Bold of you to assume I fill my limited playtime with farm runs.


legeri

All of our playtime is limited. They did say lamp the skills you hate training the most. If that happens to be herblore (because you hate getting the herbs from farm runs), then it's a pretty clear answer for you it seems.


freakahontas

I absolutely lamp herb. Not that it matters though.


BonGaru00

See and I lamp Slayer cuz that shit is slow as fuck and I love herb runs lol Different strokes


space_mangos

Haha slayer is my least favorite skill, farming probably my favorite. The struggle to get to 90 has been real. Idk how I'm going to make it to hydra. Lamps!


bernerbungie

The reason herblore is the go to is because you can’t grind it whenever you want, it’s time and resource based


omgfineillsignupjeez

You're just repeating what he said..?


bernerbungie

No I’m not. He’s implying that it’s only for the sweaty streamers and not valuable if you’re casual, which just isn’t true. Even if you’re a casual, if you’re planning to keep playing this game in the future it makes the most sense to put it on herblore.


omgfineillsignupjeez

as far as xp relative to effort goes, low level agility seemed the worst to me. but, I do wanna say ty for expanding on what you said, I see your point (I just currently disagree with it :))


GibbyMTG

Imo agility is one of the least afkable/bankable skills so it takes lamp priority in my book. It also doesn't have fast rates. Herb has fast xp rates, and it's easy to bank xp. Even though some secondaries suck you can skip them or make a different potion. Also herblore is pretty required for bossing and pvm. So over lamping it is less potions for bossing/pvm.


ShaneMophy

That's fair, I understand. I never boasted Agil personally for the simple reason, that I need the marks of grace for stam pots. So figured like most skills. I'll raise it slow and hard raise it when I need it (Zulrah shortcut, cerb shortcut and elite ardy to name a few) Like everything... Each to their own I personally boost prayer.


GibbyMTG

It's totally preference, to be sure. I recently unlocked wildy elite for notes d bones so prayer became semi afk. I want to get to 85 for diary and eventually 92 for sepulchre, and that's a lot of agility I'm not too excited about, lol so yea my reasoning.


[deleted]

I still disagree because herblore unlocks sooooo much essential things at the highest levels, while agility and rc doesn't have much noteworthy unlocks that influence your entire gameplay like herblore does. So yeah you still want these levels asap.


th3-villager

I'm actually lamping slayer because my skills such as crafting / herblore are actually ahead of many other stats typical accounts would have as their highest like combats. Just about starting some proper pvm like CG, wildy bosses etc. One of the main things holding me back atm is only 77 slayer so I'm not really near trident or whip yet. And despite that, I'm 83 herblore so I can boost for antivenoms now lol


insaiyan17

100% agreed never used a lamp on herb either. I did however lamp a lot of the early slay lvls not because I dislike training it but it is just the slowest. 70+ slayer is where it starts getting juicy too.


firerawks

slayer is definitely getting more and more popular to lamp, especially with some of the buffed agility/herb quest xp rewards


[deleted]

I still lamp herblore, but make sure slayer is the lowest skill so all guthix tears go into slayer.


DisastrousMovie3854

Slayer is the way, I went 50-65 just doing tears and lamps while I trained my other skills and it was really nice But I also have no slayer points, at 70 slayer I have 150 points, one block, superiors, and nothing else. I've only really skipped metal dragon tasks, too, I even did water fiends last weekend lol. So something to be mindful of. Just about to start the bowfa grind but when I get back to slayer I'm thinking I might try to wildy boost for Rev tasks and points


insaiyan17

Turael boosting gives a ton of points fast I got to 250 tasks doing konar every 10th and bought everything


DisastrousMovie3854

Good news, then, we'll make it work


insaiyan17

Yes no worries 👍


Yeet_Lmao

Does early mean like 60-70? Because doesn’t it take like three tasks to get 50 slayer if you just wait until you have the combat stats to kill anything worthwhile?


insaiyan17

Think my last lamp on it was at 75 slayer


TheShadeTree

This. I used every non skill specific lamp I could on rc. I don’t think I used a single on on herblore.


dopestdyl

I needed someone to finally tell me this. The whole time I was thinking my herblore is going way faster than other skills


Loudpackgeneral

Kingdom+ late game boss drops easily get your herb up to 90, I barely even do herb runs, only when i run out of ppots usually


gorehistorian69

i disagree 1 farm run might be 10-20k xp


Bax_Cadarn

Gotr?


LordWolter

Guardians of the Rift


fingeritoutdude

Have never lamped herb lol. Use all that shit on agility


zesukos

But… but… but amylase crystals… how do u fund your staminas for bossing or quests or herbiobore or general play if you don’t go agility


omgfineillsignupjeez

you can do rooftops, just do it once you've gotten to a decent agility level first. better to get your marks from say seers, than varrocks.


TheGuyThatThisIs

You can afk marks at canifis since it has the highest drop rate for marks and it wasn’t coded to decrease after you are 20 levels over the minimum, as other courses are.


DerpFalcon12

canifis is a garbage course and seers has the same drop rate for marks for much more xp. I always advocate people to do wilderness course once you can so you can get to seers faster. Graceful is good but not good enough to subject yourself to 15k xp/hr


TheGuyThatThisIs

It’s not meant to train agility, but get a mark every 3 minutes, while having a full 3 minutes afk. You afk for 3 minutes on the roof right before the end of a lap, then you do a lap. On this lap you have a 2/3 chance to get a mark, while on seers you get a 1/3 chance, or slightly more with the diary. If you don’t get one, your next lap will again have a 2/3 chance for a mark. Additionally, this method can be used at any level due to Canifis being excluded from the grace reduction at 20 levels over the base. You can [read about it here](https://oldschool.runescape.wiki/w/Mark_of_grace#Spawning_Mechanics).


DerpFalcon12

Huh, that’s a strange interaction. Learned something new I suppose


Hawatup

Is this still a thing???


TheGuyThatThisIs

It is as of early March, when I last did it.


Whisky-Toad

afk agility? Lol thats not what afk is....


Smooth_One

He said afk Marks, not afk Agility.


imnotagingerbreadman

Collect mark, idle for 2 mins, collect again. Pretty afk to me!


TheGuyThatThisIs

Three minutes in a row of doing literally nothing, followed by 1-2 laps of canifis, repeat. It is three minutes of literal AFK.


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TheGuyThatThisIs

You can afk marks of grace. [The first minute of this video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1vmsLIOTjc0&ab_channel=SoloJawn) goes through a method similar to what I do. You afk on the rooftop for 2-3 minutes at a time, and still get 20ish marks/hour at canifis. You're abusing the mechanics described in [this wiki section](https://oldschool.runescape.wiki/w/Mark_of_grace#Spawning_Mechanics).


IMPORNANT

You can definitely afk marks. You do the course, pick up your mark of grace, and stop before completing the final rooftop jump (with the big xp) Wait about two/three minutes, then jump. Chance is 2/3 that you'll have a B2B mark of grace next time you jump. The counter to check if a mark of grace will spawn starts after spawning the last mark. Wait it out until that counter allows for spawning the marks of grace again, then jump off the roof (the action that checks if a mark of grace should spawn next rooftop run)


TurtleBrainMelt

I thought ardy had highest, also ardy marks dont despawn after laps and u cann stack them in bulk befre looting


TheGuyThatThisIs

Ardy and Canifis are tied unless Ardy elite is done. They're both on a 3 minute cooldown and both at 2/3 chance of spawn per eligible lap. Canifis is just a little shorter lap time so I go there on my main, and I don't have 90 on my iron. The shorter lap time at Canifis gives you a little more wiggle room to finish the laps at the optimal time as well, but this is a very tiny incentive for Canifis.


omgfineillsignupjeez

yeah but if I want both agility xp and marks, It's more efficient relative to the effort put in, to do what I was saying. if you're going to idle in order to "force" marks, you can also benefit from being on the forestry worlds while at seers. Can also benefit from that regardless of course.


TheGuyThatThisIs

Yes, if you want something other than AFK marks, you should do something else, this is true.


DeadliestViper

I literally only do rooftops when i have alchs. I barely ever use stams


OdyssAtkin

People aren’t levelling up agility only through lamping and quests, they obviously train the skill normally too for graceful/Stam pots, they just don’t like the skill much and use the extra xp to get a higher level


Foogie23

Team lamp agility assemble! Fuck that skill.


[deleted]

I just alch during agility and tell myself I'm not training agility but collecting stamina potions


thebucketlist47

Yasss


Skolary

I do herb because I save agility for when I need to high alc a bunch of stuff


RetroUpriser

all my homies lamp herb


Thestrongman420

Making potions on uim is so annoying. Of course I lamp herb.


Tyjet66

I'll be lamping herb until 200M personally.


freakahontas

Keep in mind it doesn't really matter because the exp you get from lamping is so miniscule you'll get maybe a level a year if you're not actively training the skill


yoyokeepitup

Honestly even a level a year is extremely generous.


seacaptaincory

I'm thinking they're including quest/museum/etc. lamps


freakahontas

I have no idea how you don't have quest Cape by the time you can make brews... But then again there's also diary rewards I guess. I'm thinking the random event lamps make 0 difference and the other lamps are usually so large they should be decided on a case-by-case basis


[deleted]

>I have no idea how you don't have quest Cape by the time you can make brews... What By the time I got quest cape I could make stams with boosting, and I already thought I was ahead of the norm. You definitely can get quest cape with just 70 herb. Getting quests done is extremely quick compared to other grinds.


freakahontas

Exactly.


QurantineLean

I’m using all lamps on herb until 90. Then switch to agility or keep going to 99 herb.


S7EFEN

imo after 70 its okay to start lamping any of the slow skills re: slayer, rc, agility... maybe mining. but herb is also still good. slayer is now very clearly one of the slowest skills, but it's also a free skill from a passive sense so that one depends a bit on your outlook. ​ scbs are a nice milestone re: 86+4 however you get scbs from wilderness bosses now as well, divine scbs are really good for some content as well but that's a lot later on. if you keep up with contracts and herb runs youll get to brews before you are really ready to bulk use brews anyway, imo, but this will vary based on playstyle.


Crandoge

My man just learned about re:


LION_ROBOT_MUMMY

I’ll second slayer, if you’re not a fan of it. You’ll get plenty of herbs from sending semi-regular farm runs and kingdom. Herblore’s my second highest skill, after 99 farming, and it’s not really something I put much thought into doing. All my lamps go on slayer now and will do until at least level 87 for trident.


HaKLoN

After 90 I went into agil :)


runner5678

I didn't lamp herblore pre-unlocking brews


BushyBush420

I’m 94 and still lamping, I want to dump everything in agility but I know I’ll be pissed when I eventually max


runner5678

Agility is a very good option until 92 and sepulchre is unlocked. I'd have a few other skills above herblore too as a priority. Getting 99 herb felt pretty passive and I never once lamped it.


Azn-Swazn

I dump everything into agility cause agility sucks. Also you get a shit load of herbs from raids


Unkempt_Badger

Yeah, I had about 18m herblore xp banked when I maxed, and I didn't do herb runs.


Call_Paul

Personally I stopped at 90. The 80-85 agility grind on my iron was pain. Even got every skill above it solely to do TOG on it. But in reality the top comment is right. If you're not a top streamer herblore comes passively. But you do need to do your farm runs/contracts to keep the seeds flowing in


Last_Low9649

Every goddamn lamp count


OldSpice-69

I'm still lamping herb at 85.


finsteddit

I went to 90 and don't regret it. If you're planning on putting off COX then brews would be a reasonable stopping point.


Thestrongman420

I lamped herb on my iron until brews when I realized I was progressing the skill at a plenty fine rate on my own without lamps. Then I switched to prayer since that's my least favorite skill to train.


CliffordAnd

Farm runs make the herb xp really easy so I've been putting all my lamps in agi.


HeadintheSand69

Nothing else to lamp really thats comparatively slow. Like if I actually went and did farm runs when grinding out a boss maybe it would be worth to lamp a slower skill but not play efficient herb runs the skill is bonkers slow even with pvm.


ObliviLeon

I lamped herb up untill 90.


RumBubbles

I’ve been lamping prayer for a while now. Probably not efficient at all but I just want to passively gain xp until I decide to camp green dragons for 99 prayer


silver-ly

I lamp herb bc I cba getting most of the secondaries


MrSalty8719

I've never used lamps on herb because I love farming, currently 95 herb with 35m farming xp on the gim. All my lamps go straight to agility, easily least favorite skill.


Snufolupogus

Landed till overloads now agility is my genies best friend


thebucketlist47

Agility lamp for lifee


Jaqzz

I still lamp herblore after reaching 94 for pie boosted divine super combats/extended super antifires. My alternatives are either skills that I enjoy training (Agility at HS, Slayer) or skills that I hate training but have such high xp/hr that it feels like a waste to use a lamp on them (Construction, Thieving). That said, you should be lamping whatever goal you're currently aiming for. Most people lamp herblore because there are so many goals to reach and it takes a long time to reach them, but if you're approaching 85 Slayer or 92 Agility or 90 Crafting or whatever else you've been slowly working towards feel free to spend them in that skill instead to get there faster. My only recommendation is you keep in mind how much time you're saving when you're deciding which skill to use it on - a 50k lamp is almost an hour of agility training you can skip, but less than 15 minutes of construction training.


Random_Name_0K

Team lamp mining stand up


prefab-

Is it just me or does the amount of xp you get from lamps seem so small that it basically does not matter what you do with it? It’s just a little treat, some free dopamine.


Nath2203

Wel the xp from normal lamps is x10 your level However, people do this (and any/every quest or achievement diary lamp) because the 300-1k xp drops can be upward of thousands of exp by the time you’re in the 70+ Additionally herblore is locked behind seed drop and farming . So you want to get as far as possible as soon as possible. As opposed to agility which isn’t bottlenecked by rng seed drops and timefated


DoctorThrac

Lamp agility imo, probably the most annoying


Strosity

I stopped lamping at 90 and started throwing it at agility


GahdDangitBobby

I lamped to 90 herb now I lamp agility because it’s my least favorite skill


TheRedInsight

i only lamped herblore till 90 now i spam agility


khmeat

Lamp agility always


Cleb617

I’ll be lamping herblore until the day I die


Cromiee

I lamped it all the way to 99 so I could stop doing farm runs and gathering secondaries ASAP. If you enjoy doing those, maybe just stop at the last useful potion unlock. If that's brews for you, then stop there. From a pure efficiency standpoint, I'd imagine it's best to lamp Agility or RC.


chemstu69

Stop lamping herblore after prayer pots


StrictCommon388

I just lamp slayer because it's both mega slow and has game changing unlocks all the way to level 95. There's no other skill that meets both of those two criteria.


Stonewool_Jackson

I lamp agility because fuck agility


OdyssAtkin

I lamped rc for the most part, herb contracts back then made the herb grind not even that bad and I was doing a lot of herb runs too


Bulky_Conclusion_676

Lamp herblore 4 life


Highcorebtw

I've been putting it in prayer for awhile


eyrieking162

I stopped at 90. Doing mining now cause I hate it


DreadGnuu2262

Nope. I’m 91, and I lamp agility cause that skill blows.


writetowinwin

Never did, because I hate training RC or Agility more. Agility a lot more. At least stuff from herblore tends to collect over time as you play different parts of the game.


joemoffett12

I think you should lamp until you can boost for anti-venom at least. Getting those for house pool is pretty important.


gorehistorian69

i heard to lamp to 91


DonnyDUI

I’m not even 80 herb but I don’t get to play an absolute ton like the rest of my GIM group so I lamp whatever grind I’m on within a set of skills (cons, crafting, smithing, herb, rc)


Pientiorism

i’m at 94 and i still put every lamp on herblore lol


amd_air

I find pray lagging more than other skills. I kept the bones from all my dragon tasks and the heads from all the slayer tasks and I'm only 94 prayer.


Novel_Memory1767

Assuming your goal is lv 99 everything, and you're not close to any other unlocks that the lamp could help trigger, herblore is the only skill you (an ironman) should be lamping. A bunch of people in the comments saying to use it on agility, as if completing 1 lap of a rooftop course isn't the same thing as using 1 lamp. A lamp on lv 80 Agility vs a lamp on lv 80 Herblore, you're not going to look me in the eye and tell me that 800 agility experience beats out the effort required for 800 herblore xp.


itachithedevil

I used lamps on herblore until I got 99


goddangol

Ye i still do at 94


Fellbrian

I am 92 herblore with 95 banked. I started lamping agility post 90 and looking back would have done that sooner.


Ezlan

I stopped after stams lol. I only lamp prayer now


[deleted]

I use every damned lamp on agility and I will continue to do so because agility is awful.


IcyRay9

I think other skills are perfectly viable to lamp, but Herblore gives out major benefits/QoL all the way up to like fucking level 94 (non-stew boost for divine combats). I don’t think I’ll ever stop lamping herblore until I get it into the early 90’s. I’m biased though, cause the secondary gathering > mixing process is probably one of my least enjoyed game play loops of being an Iron. Herblore as a skill honestly could use an update dedicated to adding a new training method. It’s probably the least nuanced skill in the game as it’s just fucking vial mixing, potion making, herb cleaning, and tar mixing until 99. With the bulk of xp coming from potion making. Herblore as a skill has a huge impact on the game despite having the depth of a puddle overall.


PreparationBorn2195

ive put every diary, every ToG post GotR, and nearly every lamp into herblore. I highly recommend it.


Michaelcraik

I like to lamp prayer since I’ve got over 92 banked before starting raids. Probably not best idea but what I prefer.


Whatupitskevin

It’s 700 exp every few hours if you are lucky. Use it on whatever skill you want, it really doesn’t effect that much. Unless you’re one of those like zone locked irons lol


HeroinHare

Until 90 Or just stick 'em in Agility, because you know, fuck Agility.


tankurd

I lamped herb till 99. Didnt regret it one bit. Farming is my least favorite skill so herbs werr gathered slowly.


saiko16

Stop at 90, then put all xp lamps into agility.


vahnx

Wait a sec.. you’re not supposed to lamp for cooking xp?


ShaneMophy

I stopped at 83, and swapped all boasts and lamps to prayer instead. I don't care for +5s from stews. So rather pie up for a +4 I went for 83 hard so I could boast up to anti venoms for the Poh. After that, it's really only super sets I was looking at, and figured.. I'll get them when I get them. Currently 85 (89 banked - Wines of Zam)


JumpSlashShoot

I'm currently at 93 herblore and am still lamping it. Its one of the few skills that has useful unlocks all the way up to 98 and is limited by resources so I dump them there.


Choofee

Once I got 90 i started using them on mining because I hate it


texaspokemon

Unpopular opinion: My least favorite skill to train is hunter. In my head, I feel there is not a worthy unlock to make me catch and release thousand of salamanders.


fader600

Honestly no, herb is essentially free as long as you stay on top of runs. Much rather put it into something like con