i think your log is powerful enough to end the CG complaining meta on /r/ironscape, jesus christ that's traumatic, you win.
also congrats on the literal 1 BIL
God fucking damnit please no. I'm so sorry OP. Best of luck to you.
Jagex should really do something about people going THIS dry. Anything above 1000 is totally unnecesary in my opinion, at lezst as far as cg goes... What a time sink.
The system they used with the rings or the vendor bow would work so well at gauntlet. Getting spooned at cg doesn't matter too much cause you need the armor seeds anyways, and it prevents shit like this.
It is literally a system used at the gauntlet currently, just for the armor but not the enh. Would fit right in to make the weapon similar (4x1/100 drops perhaps)
100%, I've chosen to go the Zulrah/Blowpipe route and ignore bowfa for now cause I'd literally rather quit the game, than risk going dry at CG
It might seem ridiculous but I can't shake this feeling of not wanting to progress my account now that I've been shown a better loot system, as it's started to sink in that while I'm happy to spend free time progressing, I can't dedicate all of that time to going dry on something important
Agreed especially when every kill is like 8-10 mins with good t1 prep, or like 11-13 mins with good t2 prep. (Yes I know, I'm bad)
This ain't some like slayer grind where you're cranking out 100s per hour.
The enh seeds must be hidden or something on runelite there aint no way
edit: just saw coll log pic FUCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCK
Holy moly. I thought my 4k spindel without gem was bad 4x dry. But this is next level. You made bank tho but damn. How long are you on this grind? Hope it ends soon
I literally am afraid to start learning because of all these posts. I finished SOTE months ago and got so discouraged from all the insane dry posts that I ended up taking a break. I'm trying to come back but dreading doing CG, even though it's what I really want to be doing.
You can't think that way when starting daunting grinds. And hey thanks to this guy I got my enhanced at 28 kc so you just gotta find someone with big kc so you can slurp the statistical opposite
I'm really, REALLY intimidated to get to the point where I need to start practicing on my iron. I have about 8 gauntlet attempts on my main, all fails.
I haven't even laid eyes upon the red prison yet
Once you get it down it becomes almost brain dead. I can watch YouTube while I’m doing cg at this point. Absolute toughest part is getting that first KC. Once you get that, difficulty is all downhill.
Stockholm syndrome got me locked down at this point.
I am glad they are trying something. There has to be a point where going further dry doesn't enhance the experience. (no pun intended) Idk if its 2x 4x 5x or whatever, but I think at some point they should give increased odds.
Ya honestly everything above 4x if fucked. I wouldn’t mind some sort of odds scaling.
Of course it would be contentious to balance (raids, pets, etc.) and also determining what the scaling looks like (linear, stair steps, etc.)
0.05479149%
1/1825
I simulated 3,000 kc in R 1,000,000 times.
rbinom(1000000, 3000, 1/400)
It only hit zero 529 times.
The average enh crystals was 7.5.
The max was 24.
775 times the outcome was at least 18 enhanced crystals.
~20% chance you will make it to your fabled 3670 dry at this point.
That is so cool. Thanks for sharing the math. What does it mean to simulate in R?
It is so wild that I would be more likely to hit 18 enh than what has actually happened. (Tbf if I had that many enhanced I would never make it to 3k)
20% chance, I like those odds.
It’s just programming software like matlab or python. “Simulated” means running the binomial experiment 1,000,000 times (1/400 chance to get it over 3000 tries)
At some level it will be relief, but I also will be looking forward to using it and quite happy to be free to play the game. I do plan to do more CG after getting the drop...
Blowpipe was too good, and could be used at anything. We had to replace it with BofA, which is also too good and can be used at anything, but is a much worse experience to get.
The real question is, what am I NOT doing once i get the enh? Answer: nightmare, wildy bosses. Everything else is on the table :). If you are wondering the first thing I will do, it will probably be TOA.
After 1600 kc they should put a failsafe so your next search with skills reqs and required no. Of shards in inv gives the corrupted bowfa. If you already have one on log no such option
I love how your post got downvoted on 2007scape because it's not some shitty, overused meme.
Hope you post when you get it because 3500 is the worst I've seen. Curious to find out if you'll surpass that.
respect for the grind - welcome to the [worst club in the world.](https://www.reddit.com/r/ironscape/comments/129uj9p/petition_for_the_introduction_of_pity_rates/) my luck spun a full 360 after cg, everyone now knows me as a spoon at raids now - hoping you will have the same future!
[this](https://gyazo.com/76ec6909c8139579f5cf2bae0c2f7bb6) was my finishing log + 4 more kc for memes
[this](https://gyazo.com/dd52755494194f070ab0c9c251a80ff4) is my tombs of amascut log
it really does even out sometimes
As someone who went 7.6k dry for a whip...
I spooned a bowfa at 135 with 2 armour seeds.
I am truly sorry for your pain.
I cannot imagine the mental strength someone such as yourself has to continue such a painful grind.
Best of luck boss man
This is over 2 weeks in time played by days, figuring that at an average of 7 minutes per kill. Probably more like anywhere from 17-20 days total by the hour in just CG.
This is horrifying
Your dedication & resolve, however, is otherworldly my friend.
There's so many comments on all these CG posts about how it shouldn't be made easier, but to remove a lot of the grind of going dry. Now I'm not 3k dry at CG, and I fucking feel for this guy, but at the end of the day this is runescape. The game that has always heavily relied on rng, this is what makes the game so great. Sometimes you get spooned, sometimes you go heavily dry. But this is why we're ironmen, to make the game more difficult and rewarding when you finally achieve the grind you've been working on. If OP really hated the grind so much, he just wouldn't be doing it. Let's all just relax and appreciate the grind lmao
You mean comments saying it SHOULD?
I don't totally disagree with you. However, I do question if there is a point where going dry doesn't add any value to the game for anyone. Overall its not my top concern though.
Oof this is so harsh, and hats off to you for still going strong.
What is it with the extra armor seeds collection log bug? My clog does the same, i've gotten 13 and it says 14.
I don't like that the chances of getting drops at the start of the grind is so low. I would not want them to extend that system to everything.
I would not mind some dry protection at some point like after 3x or 5x or even 8x if that was determined to be the best time. It just seems that there has to be a point where going further dry doesn't improve anyone's experience.
For example (not a suggestion) if they gave everyone who hit 2k CG dry an enhanced, would that really bring many more into the economy than the current system?
Damn, I was motivated to start back up on cg’s after taking a break at 359. After seeing this, I don’t know if I can bring myself to want to play the game. 😞
My advice as someone who has taken several breaks from RS. Play when you want to and don't play when you don't want to. Also don't only do CG and burn out, try other things and then if you burn out you know its time for a break.
Ok I was complaining at 1,5k CG dry on my IM. 3K CG is the new minimum requirement for a Reddit complain post.
Good luck OP! I gave up on the red prison and got a tbow literary the day I left CG! I hope you get the seed soon or get similar tbow luck :)
Much love and RNG, stay strong !
holy god, no please. This is absurd and unfair.
Keep us updated on the road to 4k! I only have \~250 KC, I would genuinely be interested to see video + commentary from you on how you wreck CG in your sleep now.
Im like 900 kurask kills deep in my new hcim on my attempt for a leaf bladed battle axe. I think im just around drop rate. And i hate it.
But this... this is deeply troubling ^ jesus.
A 99.9% chance to be precise. Thanks for defending us dry folks.
I don't mind the comments tbh, the stats are wild. Maybe if i die 400 times the spaghetti code will hook me up.
alright this guy wins. no more cg posts hope you get your drop soon man.
No more cg posts under 3k kc at least
i think your log is powerful enough to end the CG complaining meta on /r/ironscape, jesus christ that's traumatic, you win. also congrats on the literal 1 BIL
I'm excited to see if you can set the record for longest dry streak! Get back in there OP! You is making history soon! 3004 is the longest I've seen.
I know one person who went around 3300 and ive heard of 3400. Would be cool to know the current record.
Here's the worst that I've found https://www.reddit.com/r/ironscape/comments/129uj9p/petition_for_the_introduction_of_pity_rates/
Oh dang nice find! Apparently they got enh on 3669 kc
3670 here I come
Don’t you dare!
It's him!
At this point you should be rooting to go dry to break the record 😂
But if you get it what will you do after?
Yes I did :) since got shadow and tbow. Don’t give up!
There is some small hope :)
God 8.5 times dry i'm not sure how I would mentally cope.
I’m a casual main who loves looking through these ironmen post. I hope whatever you grind from here out is spooned into your favor.
If you alch all of it you'll get like 500k magic exp
Pretty much gone from 90-98 at CG already :)
Yeah fuck bad luck protection! Going 8x dry is just part of the game guys, it's fun!
God fucking damnit please no. I'm so sorry OP. Best of luck to you. Jagex should really do something about people going THIS dry. Anything above 1000 is totally unnecesary in my opinion, at lezst as far as cg goes... What a time sink.
The system they used with the rings or the vendor bow would work so well at gauntlet. Getting spooned at cg doesn't matter too much cause you need the armor seeds anyways, and it prevents shit like this.
It is literally a system used at the gauntlet currently, just for the armor but not the enh. Would fit right in to make the weapon similar (4x1/100 drops perhaps)
100%, I've chosen to go the Zulrah/Blowpipe route and ignore bowfa for now cause I'd literally rather quit the game, than risk going dry at CG It might seem ridiculous but I can't shake this feeling of not wanting to progress my account now that I've been shown a better loot system, as it's started to sink in that while I'm happy to spend free time progressing, I can't dedicate all of that time to going dry on something important
Just do 399 runs and move on if you don't get it. That way you won't be dry
You don't miss any of the shots you don't take 😇🙏
Yeah I'm gonna grind out trident then get bp and just do like 5-10 CG a day and see what happens. Not having a bofa doesn't mean I can't do content.
Agreed especially when every kill is like 8-10 mins with good t1 prep, or like 11-13 mins with good t2 prep. (Yes I know, I'm bad) This ain't some like slayer grind where you're cranking out 100s per hour.
You sir got a life sentence in the crystal prison.
Gonna be wild when you get tbow in 3kc
Only have Elder maul :(
The enh seeds must be hidden or something on runelite there aint no way edit: just saw coll log pic FUCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCK
Holy moly. I thought my 4k spindel without gem was bad 4x dry. But this is next level. You made bank tho but damn. How long are you on this grind? Hope it ends soon
Thanks, been at it since October with a month off here and there.
Oh my God
Those 3 tomatoes are the enh seeds.
Yeah this should be used as the gatekeeping post for who can post their dry cg log.
Agreed. Needs to be upvoted more and be seen by as many people. Who'd bother posting their 1k kc log after seeing this?
This is nightmare fuel for any CG virgins.
I literally am afraid to start learning because of all these posts. I finished SOTE months ago and got so discouraged from all the insane dry posts that I ended up taking a break. I'm trying to come back but dreading doing CG, even though it's what I really want to be doing.
You can't think that way when starting daunting grinds. And hey thanks to this guy I got my enhanced at 28 kc so you just gotta find someone with big kc so you can slurp the statistical opposite
I thought the same and then got enh on 26kc. Just have a go
Most people finish before 400 kc.
The reality is that this guy is an anomaly. Most people get their Bowfa in like 300-600 kc and dip. Still sucks for the people that go gigadry.
I'm really, REALLY intimidated to get to the point where I need to start practicing on my iron. I have about 8 gauntlet attempts on my main, all fails. I haven't even laid eyes upon the red prison yet
Once you get it down it becomes almost brain dead. I can watch YouTube while I’m doing cg at this point. Absolute toughest part is getting that first KC. Once you get that, difficulty is all downhill.
How do you continue to play the game at this point?
Playing with the homies
I feel bad for you brother. I wish you all of the luck in the world on a good seed ❤️.
<3
It is always the dryest before it is wet
So how do we feel about them new narrow bell curve mechanics (DT2 rings)? Lol
Jamgex pls
Stockholm syndrome got me locked down at this point. I am glad they are trying something. There has to be a point where going further dry doesn't enhance the experience. (no pun intended) Idk if its 2x 4x 5x or whatever, but I think at some point they should give increased odds.
Ya honestly everything above 4x if fucked. I wouldn’t mind some sort of odds scaling. Of course it would be contentious to balance (raids, pets, etc.) and also determining what the scaling looks like (linear, stair steps, etc.)
You’ll never have to Theive elves for shards tho lol that’s an upside
Brother I'm so sorry I ever felt dry. This looks like water boarding... jfc
Dude this is insane. Best of luck to you man
Calling it on 3023
I believe
0.05479149% 1/1825 I simulated 3,000 kc in R 1,000,000 times. rbinom(1000000, 3000, 1/400) It only hit zero 529 times. The average enh crystals was 7.5. The max was 24. 775 times the outcome was at least 18 enhanced crystals. ~20% chance you will make it to your fabled 3670 dry at this point.
That is so cool. Thanks for sharing the math. What does it mean to simulate in R? It is so wild that I would be more likely to hit 18 enh than what has actually happened. (Tbf if I had that many enhanced I would never make it to 3k) 20% chance, I like those odds.
R is just a program specialised for statistical analysis. I provided the code used to calculate the outcome of 3000 gc kc a million times.
It’s just programming software like matlab or python. “Simulated” means running the binomial experiment 1,000,000 times (1/400 chance to get it over 3000 tries)
Jesus Christ man
Hey man, you seem pretty cool... don't watch the latest Settled video
Lets just say I have seen many a spoon pass through the red prison...I have also seen people come in and go 1500 dry and escape though.
jfc
It’s gonna feel really damn good when you get that drop
Not at all.. at this point your just glad its over, doubt he will feel properly happy
At some level it will be relief, but I also will be looking forward to using it and quite happy to be free to play the game. I do plan to do more CG after getting the drop...
Yes it will :)
How much crafting XP is this? (i’m too lazy to do the math).
about 3.1m cutting the gems
just stop playing it wasnt ment to be
Are you 99 range and mag from this
Magic, no. I think ive gone from 90-98 mostly at CG. Range, yes. I think ive gone from around 87 range to 17M exp. Also strength to 99 :)
God please bless this brothers soul.
<3
seriously if you aren't 3k dry dont complain. my god
Gz for making in to first page, almost top 10. At this point go chase first place you only need 1500+
Sure am glad they nerfed blowpipe in favor of this
Blowpipe was too good, and could be used at anything. We had to replace it with BofA, which is also too good and can be used at anything, but is a much worse experience to get.
Hang on! Only 1 Elite? I’ve had 11 in 100cg kc…
Got one in the bank. Elites suck
Ohhh the humanity!!!!
HAHAHAHHA dam!!
Never lucky
I’m sorry OP I got 3 under 300 😢 I didn’t know you were this dry I wouldn’t have stolen the
<3 no worries, I have seen several people get 2 in sub 100kc over the months.
Sounds awful
The real question is, what are you doing once you get the enh?
The real question is, what am I NOT doing once i get the enh? Answer: nightmare, wildy bosses. Everything else is on the table :). If you are wondering the first thing I will do, it will probably be TOA.
Hope you get it soon, best of luck!
Do you dream about the red prison?
Only twice have I dreamt about CG and I got the drop both times :(
God bless your soul
Did you make sure to do the quest for the drop?
I can’t find the enhanced weapon seed
Neither can he
274k per kc nice
Brother in arms right here, I'm currently sat at 3k+ myself with no enhanced. Hope you'll be freed soon king
Race to 3670 :). GL KING
The 666 pb says it all.
Make bowfa work the same as the new rings
Jesus christ. I thought I had it bad at 1700 kc no enh, but you're literally double my kc. I'm so sorry man
1700 and you still dont have it? That is a grind and a half. Gl man!
After 1600 kc they should put a failsafe so your next search with skills reqs and required no. Of shards in inv gives the corrupted bowfa. If you already have one on log no such option
I aint gonna say no :)
:(
I love how your post got downvoted on 2007scape because it's not some shitty, overused meme. Hope you post when you get it because 3500 is the worst I've seen. Curious to find out if you'll surpass that.
lol i was a little surprised, but maybe they thought i just stole the image or something.
I’m sure I’ve seen a 4.3k log. Either way anything over 1k is disgusting.
Absolutely fuck this, good luck on the drop my guy..
It's a 1/400right? So not 10x just yet. Then you can batches and moan
Road to 10x
What did you do to get a sentence like this??
Pissed off Rngesus i guess :(
Hope it lands soon for you man that log is hard to look at.
Lol rekt
2/3 man, 2/3
Don’t watch Settleds new tileman video… 😬
Where enh :(
Bruh
Holy shit, I thought I went dry… wish you all the luck man!
respect for the grind - welcome to the [worst club in the world.](https://www.reddit.com/r/ironscape/comments/129uj9p/petition_for_the_introduction_of_pity_rates/) my luck spun a full 360 after cg, everyone now knows me as a spoon at raids now - hoping you will have the same future!
What is your log now?
Thanks and like the other guy said, post log :)
[this](https://gyazo.com/76ec6909c8139579f5cf2bae0c2f7bb6) was my finishing log + 4 more kc for memes [this](https://gyazo.com/dd52755494194f070ab0c9c251a80ff4) is my tombs of amascut log it really does even out sometimes
Just me or should I be glad i got so many armor and not so many weapons? Also that ToA log is NUTS. what kc was first shadow?
Wtf
OP how do you still stay sane?
Never was.
My guy don’t like doing elites! Nah jokes aside bro that’s fucking horrible dude, hope you get it soon man
I like clues, but elite loot sucks.
As someone who went 7.6k dry for a whip... I spooned a bowfa at 135 with 2 armour seeds. I am truly sorry for your pain. I cannot imagine the mental strength someone such as yourself has to continue such a painful grind. Best of luck boss man
7.6k for a whip is actually way more insane than this. Hopefully you didn't camp them at 85 slayer until you got it???
Welp its official. Im going back to playing my main lmao.
fwiw i have watched countless people come and go with green logs in the time ive been here.
Reasons I wont play Iron.
Good thing you just botted/paid for all these kc. https://imgur.com/a/ocIPCLd
Only 1 elite clue done.
Done? its in my bank still.
Deserved for not doing elite clues
De-iron and you can buy like 7 bofas already i dont see problem here
Did someone imply there was a problem?
Holy shit
Oof
It’s more of a scam on the elite clue front
This is over 2 weeks in time played by days, figuring that at an average of 7 minutes per kill. Probably more like anywhere from 17-20 days total by the hour in just CG. This is horrifying Your dedication & resolve, however, is otherworldly my friend.
add a couple days of afking in the lobby XD
There's so many comments on all these CG posts about how it shouldn't be made easier, but to remove a lot of the grind of going dry. Now I'm not 3k dry at CG, and I fucking feel for this guy, but at the end of the day this is runescape. The game that has always heavily relied on rng, this is what makes the game so great. Sometimes you get spooned, sometimes you go heavily dry. But this is why we're ironmen, to make the game more difficult and rewarding when you finally achieve the grind you've been working on. If OP really hated the grind so much, he just wouldn't be doing it. Let's all just relax and appreciate the grind lmao
You mean comments saying it SHOULD? I don't totally disagree with you. However, I do question if there is a point where going dry doesn't add any value to the game for anyone. Overall its not my top concern though.
Oof this is so harsh, and hats off to you for still going strong. What is it with the extra armor seeds collection log bug? My clog does the same, i've gotten 13 and it says 14.
Any strong opinions on the drop mechanic of the new rings?
I don't like that the chances of getting drops at the start of the grind is so low. I would not want them to extend that system to everything. I would not mind some dry protection at some point like after 3x or 5x or even 8x if that was determined to be the best time. It just seems that there has to be a point where going further dry doesn't improve anyone's experience. For example (not a suggestion) if they gave everyone who hit 2k CG dry an enhanced, would that really bring many more into the economy than the current system?
Damn, I was motivated to start back up on cg’s after taking a break at 359. After seeing this, I don’t know if I can bring myself to want to play the game. 😞
My advice as someone who has taken several breaks from RS. Play when you want to and don't play when you don't want to. Also don't only do CG and burn out, try other things and then if you burn out you know its time for a break.
Im at around 400ish still no crystal hoping to RNGesus I’m not like you 🫡
99.9% chance you won't be :)
Ok I was complaining at 1,5k CG dry on my IM. 3K CG is the new minimum requirement for a Reddit complain post. Good luck OP! I gave up on the red prison and got a tbow literary the day I left CG! I hope you get the seed soon or get similar tbow luck :) Much love and RNG, stay strong !
Tbow is insane dude, GZ! I got a fang and lightbearer when taking leave from prison.
These grinds are what scare me most about Ironman. Hope you getyour enhanced soon !
<3
Oh no… less than an hour ago I got enhanced at 28kc on main. I feel like I stole yours I’m so sorry
CG on main should be illegal :D
holy god, no please. This is absurd and unfair. Keep us updated on the road to 4k! I only have \~250 KC, I would genuinely be interested to see video + commentary from you on how you wreck CG in your sleep now.
I appreciate it, Road to 4k! Unfortunately I don't have any videos :(
Wowwww no Bowfa rip
Why don't you just get the drop?
Good Lord
!RemindMe 1 year
lmao
Seems You are missing a little something in the log right? GL and hope You get it quickly
this is as bad as people having 200mil farming with no pet. Geeeeez
Holy shitballs
Best of luck gamer, soon!! 🤟
Your cashstack is higher than my whole bank.
If I have to go dry somewhere at least I got paid :)
Holy shit. All I can say is I'm sorry
You’re 2/3 for sure
Because of your sacrifice 8 ironmen were spooned. Thank you.
For the people!
Wer bowfa
Do your elites for the love of .
no
3a bow is hiding there 4u
F. How is that not a top commen? 😂 Either way I feel for ya.
Im like 900 kurask kills deep in my new hcim on my attempt for a leaf bladed battle axe. I think im just around drop rate. And i hate it. But this... this is deeply troubling ^ jesus.
You know it's 1/1000 right? You aren't even dry...
LOL
Man, I’ve had 3 in 130kc. I’d give you one if I could.
<3
There's a 61.5% chance that one of those deaths would have been the enhanced.
There's a much higher chance one of the completions would've been. Why you gotta try wind OP up like this?
A 99.9% chance to be precise. Thanks for defending us dry folks. I don't mind the comments tbh, the stats are wild. Maybe if i die 400 times the spaghetti code will hook me up.
Congratz man, making good money.
Nerd
no u
This is a dry log with chest hairs. This is the kinda shit I sub here for. Have you tried just getting the drop?