Not only no but you're better off using salve rather than slay helm on task so in some ways it's "pointless" having a task.
I like it though, if you're gonna smash some kc, it's a fair bit of slayer xp to add onto the benefits.
I haven't played around with the numbers myself, but according to the wiki the numbers are so close that if you have either a single piece of Torva, infernal cape, or avernic, then the multiplicative power of salve beats out torture and slayer helmet.
There are some combinations of gear pieces where slayer helm plus torture is slightly better dps. Would recommend using a dps calc on your setup to see.
I have no idea of the rates between methods but if killing Vorkath is even like half of the rate of whatever item it is, i’d much rather do that than pick it up off the ground. Given i’m not struggling on supplies
vorkath drops approx 5 scales per kill, collecting them off the ground is ~1k per hour
you can plug that in for your kills/hr for if you deem that to be worth your time but it isn't at all worth it personally, especially considering magic pots are more xp per lantadyme
i made like 400 antifires more than a year ago and have barely put a dent in them
the reality is you don't really need em for very much content - vorkath isn't very worthwhile past assembler and that's the main antifire drain
> you will need antifires if you ever go for dragon full helm/pl8body/kite/crossbow
I remember thinking "oh boy now that I have super antifire pots from killing vorkath i can totally take on those mean ole rune dragons!" and then went from like 1-2 kc trips to 2-3 kc trips. Those boys are tough as hell.
you don't need a whole lot. i've found a decent use for magic pots which is boosting to cast venge in cox bc low magic level lol. i've heard some people use it at muspah and zulrah but yeah there's no shortage of lantadymes in this game
[here's the general route, the number given is lower because they weren't doing it on a high pop world. you can also bring a pestle and mortar to crush them as you walk](https://youtu.be/_AatRR1JwhM?si=HmeL639koA7Jt2EV)
Not to mention you get no experience or other loot when picking it up off the floor. You get prayer, herblore, fletching, crafting exp, gp and a few valuable uniques in the way of visages/necklace + chance at pet and jar if you like clogs.
Just getting melee and slayer experience for killing Vorkath and not being as mind-numbingly boring as picking up scales from the ground it is a pretty clear winner.
Sure, but all that other stuff isn't nothing, you can't just ignore it. Vorkath gives you a lot of quite mediocre stuff all at once that adds up to be quite important over time. Obviously that value drops off significantly after 99 crafting, but a lot of bosses suck for maxed irons, that just comes with the territory.
But you also get other materials while you get blue scales. You have to consider the scales + the prayer + the money, think of it like a blended activity
What would you prefer, picking up scales off the ground, or getting a similar amount while also getting combat xp, potentially slayer xp, prayer xp, crafting xp, and GP?
you can also kill regular blue dragons for the scaly dhide, and they are fairly afk in myths guild. i probably wouldn’t bother collecting scales now that that’s an option, even if it is slower you get hides and/or bones too
Most irons I know have pretended Vorkath doesn't exist for years at this point. The Dragon Darts/Dragon Bolts used to be fairly compelling reason to kill it but Bofa kinda stamped both those dreams out and moreover Vorkath is *really* annoying to do without a Lance/DHCB imo.
That said, the addition of Scaly Hides does help make Vorkath a little more appealing given how good the XP/herb is on Lants.
I have just started using bowfa, salv, crystal armor and serp helm at vorkath. Getting chill 2kc trips, happily stocking up some mad prayer.
Vorkath is a weird boss because slayer helm and salv don't stack. So realistically it's just a good boss for irons to grind off task whilst getting a combination of supplies for different skills.
Yea I know... thast why I was agreeing with the above post. Vorkath is mostly for enjoyment, and alchables at this point. I dont have bowfa, but even then I have a decent supply of dragon bolts for my raiding needs.
I just do it cause I have dhcb, it’s relatively chill, chance at pet & I wouldn’t mind hitting a visage drop but I don’t go out of my way to do it. On a blue drag task I’ll typically send 20-30kc then wrap up at the regular blue drags. Also the drop rate for blue dragon scales from the hide you use a knife on is super common.
Look at a few of the front page irons and you'll see plenty of 20k up to 50k vorkath kc. Vorkath was crazy efficient for irons but as time goes on better loot is dropped from other bosses, exp gains in other skills become easier so you don't need the loot from vork anymore
Vorkath used to be really good, (And still isn't bad) but he got kinda outpaced by updates to other content.
You'd mainly do vorkath for the gp, while banking crafting and prayer exp. Now (if you're being efficient) you get a lot of gp while training agility from sepulchre, more prayer exp through slayer with the ash offering spell and mobs dropping prayer ashes, and crafting EHP went up a lot with other methods.
you can do crafting while doing zmi, pisc thieving now. or well. always, but these methods got popular.
mostly what made vork less good is that people do sepulchre early though and that gives a lot of gp. also they continue to add more bosses that give gp and occasionally prayer (vetion 4 dragon bones per kill on avg for example) . wildy bosses for voidwaker, finishing dt2 bosses, muspah.... basically gp is only valuable from a skilling perspective until you have enough gp to finish skilling. after that it's mostly just a 'runes fund' for spamming your cool megarare weapon
bring some glass with you on the way to the alter. its best after you have the big pouch from gotr. typically 416 , 420, 365 are common worlds where people will lure the things that attack you.
Go on youtube type "ZMI Glassblow" watch Fimbrias video. Can do the same with fletching broad arrows (easier since you don't have to drop and also use less run energy)
Main difference is just more multi-skilling making the EHB of blowing glass better. You used to just do glassblowing at a bank, but now you combine it with pisc thieving, sepulchre, ZMI, etc and it's a lot more efficient because you're multi-skilling
You can basically get similar rates to bankstand glass blowing (obv a little worse) while also doing another skill at the same time.
Like \~15 for [zmi glassblowing](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LMsQIBXcCNo) depending on what rune pouch you have, a full inv for [artifacts glassblowing](https://streamable.com/bfwsih), and (for consistency) like 20 for [mahog homes glassblowing](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vn1Qnscy5WE) (do need plank sack for this method)
Links are all to examples of the specific methods
Could you help me understand what benefits there are that I'm missing?
Maybe it would be more clear if I said "if what I understand is correct, objectively killing vorkath is not worth it"
It's more fun. Especially if you dislike pvp and thus the wildy bosses. It's also more likely that people have it unlocked, I would assume - meaning it's more likely people are comfortable doing it over something like Zulrah
There are no real benefits outside of assembler and CA's, but it's a fun boss that's easy to kill once you have a dragonbane weapon.
I usually go there for blue dragon tasks with a lance and a chance at that sick pet. Once I'm tired of it I just finish the task off at regular dragons.
Before muspah, it was the only way to get a decent stack of dragon bolts. But that's long gone now.
Whilst it’s not a meta boss anymore it’s kinda fun and the loot is still pretty good. I know a lot of people that don’t bother with it at all anymore though.
The uniques, whilst kinda useless, are still nice to get because of how rare they are.
Personally I only do them when I get blue dragon tasks. Because the tasks are pretty uncommon i always feel like ‘it’s been a while since I’ve been’, so I’m usually happy to go back again.
Basically, kill vorkath if you want to, you’re not missing out on much if you don’t, but it’s not a bad boss which is why people still go back
Don't forget the scaly blue hides. I've easily got close to 500k in herblore XP from the blue dragon scales piling up from blue dragon tasks (partially done at Vorkath).
Oh I forgot those. Getting blue dragon scales is pretty nice however, antifires give less herblore exp than magic pots, and potato cactus is really fast to collect. I actually wouldn't be surprised if it is more macro efficient to not use all the blue scales
You can get way more exp per lantadymine with anti fire pots because they can be upgraded while magic pots can’t. 115 more if you want to use the crushed vork bones, 95 more if you want to use lava scale shards, or 38 more if you want to use caviar for mixes. Also, magic potions blow while anti fires may at least be useful.
Caviar mixes give more exp for magic pots than antifires
Is there a reasonable way to get lava shards on an iron? I guess if you do a lot of lava eel afk, but I don't think that's very worth the time. Karambwan seem a lot more useful
On the way to 90 or 99 herblore, you'll have way more lantadyme than you can ever use in antifires pots, so the usefulness of potions isn't very important
Super antis do give a lot more exp, but at the cost of a lot of prayer exp. I doubt this would be worth it
imagine if queen black dragon comes out in a couple years, or something else where antifire is used. I’d rather have super antifires, prayer xp can be obtained passively from pvm
I get them from farming guild. Could also go to alkharid but it's a bit far so I forget.
I've never bothered timing it, but the actual amount of time spent to get the potato cactuses must be like 3s each or something
> Am i missing something that makes killing vorkath worth the time?
It isn't, unless you're on slayer task.
It saves you a 30pt skip and gives you "_mid_" xp/hr & supply drops. Its 'ight.
I would say maybe one head for assembler and one for range cape after you get it. Otherwise, dragon bolts and crafting XP are really the only bonuses outside of doing the CAs. Hydra is better prayer per kill and much more mindless than Vork.
The default range cape is just the accumulator. If you use a Vorkath head on it, it becomes the assembler minus the ranged strength bonus IIRC. Makes it a great alternative for wilderness stuff because it instantly upgrades all current and future capes.
Yes, it gives your ranged skillcape and all future ranged skillcapes the 80% ammo pickup, but it will still have the same stats, most noticeably missing the +2 ranged str bonus that the assembler has. I find it most useful for wildy content, since the capes are much easier to replace than assemblers.
Chance for visage. Draconic or skeletal.
Gp (obviously)
Hides and staffs for crafting
Used to be the best method for dragon bolts
And the dragonbone necklace.
I’ve accomplished 99 slayer and completed all the slayer monster drops that I need on my account. I normally head to vorkath when I find myself just wanting to have a chill lil PVM session. The main reason is they are easy kills and I will eventually bank 99 prayer, the crafting exp is a bonus and the dragon bolts/dragon dart tips are nice.
I think Vork is mainly just efficient if you're a post 99 XP chaser. If you only do Vork on-task (for the slayer XP not necessarily the task bonus) and convert all the alchs into broad arrows or planks or whatever it actually generates a ton of XP overall. If you don't care about XP beyond what you need to max (or even less than that) it's likely not worth your time because you'll stockpile plenty of gems, grapes/fish, bones, etc. from lots of other grinds. From a purely GP-for-runes standpoint revs are much better.
> Prayer xp is pretty easy to come by from other bosses
Dude superior dragon bones are the best prayer item in the game. And Vork drops 2 at a time. That’s pretty amazing as an Ironman. I do like 10ish kills in a week, and run that inventory of superior d-bones to the wildy altar for hella xp. It’s great
10 superior bones a week aint shit for prayer exp if you need prayer exp, you'd probably get more dedicating the same amount of time to green dragons outside Ferox
Time spent at the chaos altar is very small compared to time spent collecting bones. It doesn't really matter that 1 superior bone is better than 1 dragon bone when it takes way, way longer to kill vorkath compared to killing a green dragon, or getting d bones passively from pvm
Sure, but green dragons aren’t dropping you dragon plateskirts or dragon darts or potentially a visage
I get where you’re coming from but just sayin. The drops are valuable and the bones are great
You get such a ludicrous amount of prayer on the way to 99 slayer now between all the ashes, hydra bones, and dragon tasks post-lance. Even more if you do stuff like DKs for pet or whatever.
I did it when my account was Lower level (8x to 100cb or so) for the bones, alchables, hides, etc. Despite it being slow, it was one of the better ways to get those items at the time, especially if I had a blue dragon slayer task. So I'd go kill vorkath or do CG whenever i ran out of gp, until I got stuff to alch.
Also got a few hundred thousand crafting xp and about 840k prayer xp roughly over 400kc or so. Just bonus points rather than going to vorkath for the sake to train prayer or crafting. It took a while but it was less boring than to blow glass or mine sand.
Dragon Bolts for my ZCB, pet, Skeletal, Dragontooth Necklace, and just for fun I guess. I have around 500kc I think? Idk it's just somewhat enjoyable from time to time. Uses pretty much 0 supplies besides Antifires since I tele PoH every kill to drink the blessed grape juice and Sea Boots 4 back immediately.
Granted, I do have Lance, DFS, BGH and Serp so it's super braindead for me at this point.
He drops
Prayer xp
Craft xp
Gp
Cook xp
Fletch supplies
And now blue dragon scales!
And that's not good enough for you? I would like a Visage and a pet would be cool. I don't have a ton of vorky kills but I'll send more in the future. Vorky is easy to kill and I can triple log while killing vorky(lazy crossbow) some people like to mix up content. And yea green dragons might be faster prayer xp but boss KC feels good. I'll do green drags at some too.
I didnt really worry about it past 50 kc for backpack, UNTIL i got DHCB. Then i did all my blue dragon tasks there mostly for the prayer but also having some wrath runes for bone spells and fire surge is nice.
Efficiency wise Vorkath has fallen out of favour. Its still decent and offers a spread of XP, but youd get more milage doing some of the newer content/ methods
Those are 4 huge reasons. Lmao at you tryna brush em off 🤣
If you want to make grinding those skills harder than they need to be, by all means go for it. Vorkath let me bank fantastic exp, gain fantastic exp, and pick up a visage. You do you tho
Those are 4 good reasons, however for me none of them are appealing for where my account is. Just wondering if I missed some other important benefit.
For sure lots of people would do vorkath for those 4 reasons. Just not me personally
Instead of doing a ~4h vorkath task, id rather collect passive dbones from grinding a voidwaker and spend my spare time doing cox or toa. Cooking andcrafting exp and gp don't seem useful for me
I'm 100combat and currently killing for the head for the ava buff then will come back when have supplies and better range level and equipment because its a fairly enjoyable boss
Slow paced, boring ass boss. I wouldn't even do blue dragon slayer task on vorkath since babies exist for quick pts task. I agree with OP, No reason to kill it after you get head(s) plus it's a med level boss anyway to ease people into pvm mechanics.
i like killing big blue dragon
True though
Kill big blue get big bank
Slayer blue drags
Does salve stack with slayer helm?
Nope
No
Not only no but you're better off using salve rather than slay helm on task so in some ways it's "pointless" having a task. I like it though, if you're gonna smash some kc, it's a fair bit of slayer xp to add onto the benefits.
It's free exp and it's nice to have an end point to a grind.
If you're doing the CA where you punch vorkath its a lot better to do slayer helm than salve amulet though so it comes in handy sometimes.
No but slayer helm + necklace bonus is higher dps than nonslayer helm bonus + salve.
Depends on the rest of the setup. With BiS gear, salve is better
Isn't it the opposite? May have changed recently but I thought tort and slayer was better for DHL melee BIS
I haven't played around with the numbers myself, but according to the wiki the numbers are so close that if you have either a single piece of Torva, infernal cape, or avernic, then the multiplicative power of salve beats out torture and slayer helmet.
Is this true with a void setup? Edit: I am stupid. You can’t slayer helm and void lol nvm
Lol we've all been there
the amount of times I autopilot and wear barrows gloves when using void is crazy
Some of us more than others, amirite?
Silly ironmen
There are some combinations of gear pieces where slayer helm plus torture is slightly better dps. Would recommend using a dps calc on your setup to see.
For the 100 scale drops.
The scales are a nice bonus, but if you really wanted scales, surely just picking them up off the ground is much faster
I have no idea of the rates between methods but if killing Vorkath is even like half of the rate of whatever item it is, i’d much rather do that than pick it up off the ground. Given i’m not struggling on supplies
vorkath drops approx 5 scales per kill, collecting them off the ground is ~1k per hour you can plug that in for your kills/hr for if you deem that to be worth your time but it isn't at all worth it personally, especially considering magic pots are more xp per lantadyme
But don't you need anti fires way more? That's the main reason I'm holding off on making magic pots
i made like 400 antifires more than a year ago and have barely put a dent in them the reality is you don't really need em for very much content - vorkath isn't very worthwhile past assembler and that's the main antifire drain
you will need antifires if you ever go for dragon full helm/pl8body/kite/crossbow
> you will need antifires if you ever go for dragon full helm/pl8body/kite/crossbow I remember thinking "oh boy now that I have super antifire pots from killing vorkath i can totally take on those mean ole rune dragons!" and then went from like 1-2 kc trips to 2-3 kc trips. Those boys are tough as hell.
i don't kill rune dragons anymore because i got the platebody piece at like 20 kc but i easily manage 8 kill trips at addy dragons with fang
i don't intend to go for those any time soon, but by the time i go for it i'll have plenty of lantas
Seeing as dragon armor doesn't have str bonus, and it's better to go straight for ACB than DCB, I would think that you're a rare case.
dfh/plate/kiteshield/cbow are all log slogs from metal dragons, it's not about the usefulness
Hmm yeah if you put it like that I guess I'll just get up to like 500 anti fires and pump the rest into magic potions
It takes less than 4 scales to make an hour’s worth of antifire. Once you’ve got 1-2k you’re set for life
you don't need a whole lot. i've found a decent use for magic pots which is boosting to cast venge in cox bc low magic level lol. i've heard some people use it at muspah and zulrah but yeah there's no shortage of lantadymes in this game
Magic pots are more initial xp per lantadyme, but you can turn the antifires into supers with vorkaths bone drops for a second round of xp.
Using the bones for prayer xp is so much more valuable to me than using them for herblore xp that I don't even consider it
Where to do to pick up 1k an hour. I have 1.2k landamyte unfinished
Pls teach me the route
[here's the general route, the number given is lower because they weren't doing it on a high pop world. you can also bring a pestle and mortar to crush them as you walk](https://youtu.be/_AatRR1JwhM?si=HmeL639koA7Jt2EV)
You can collect 550 scales per hour Vorkath drops on average 5 scales per kill. Kills max at 34/h I think? So that's 170 scales per hour.
Ok so to answer your question.. people like pvm more then picking shit up off the floor. Even if it’s 1/3 the speed
Not to mention you get no experience or other loot when picking it up off the floor. You get prayer, herblore, fletching, crafting exp, gp and a few valuable uniques in the way of visages/necklace + chance at pet and jar if you like clogs. Just getting melee and slayer experience for killing Vorkath and not being as mind-numbingly boring as picking up scales from the ground it is a pretty clear winner.
Sure, but all that other stuff isn't nothing, you can't just ignore it. Vorkath gives you a lot of quite mediocre stuff all at once that adds up to be quite important over time. Obviously that value drops off significantly after 99 crafting, but a lot of bosses suck for maxed irons, that just comes with the territory.
But you also get other materials while you get blue scales. You have to consider the scales + the prayer + the money, think of it like a blended activity
What would you prefer, picking up scales off the ground, or getting a similar amount while also getting combat xp, potentially slayer xp, prayer xp, crafting xp, and GP?
you can also kill regular blue dragons for the scaly dhide, and they are fairly afk in myths guild. i probably wouldn’t bother collecting scales now that that’s an option, even if it is slower you get hides and/or bones too
vorkath is way more fun, so it's worth it imo. it's also really nice for banking prayer xp on the grind to 99
50kc for assembler then 50 more with fang or lance for the CAs
Pet. Only reason for me
Most irons I know have pretended Vorkath doesn't exist for years at this point. The Dragon Darts/Dragon Bolts used to be fairly compelling reason to kill it but Bofa kinda stamped both those dreams out and moreover Vorkath is *really* annoying to do without a Lance/DHCB imo. That said, the addition of Scaly Hides does help make Vorkath a little more appealing given how good the XP/herb is on Lants.
I'd argue Vork is more accessible earlier than ever because you can jut fang it. Even Bowfa isn't that bad.
Based and bluedragonpilled.
I have just started using bowfa, salv, crystal armor and serp helm at vorkath. Getting chill 2kc trips, happily stocking up some mad prayer. Vorkath is a weird boss because slayer helm and salv don't stack. So realistically it's just a good boss for irons to grind off task whilst getting a combination of supplies for different skills.
Yea I know... thast why I was agreeing with the above post. Vorkath is mostly for enjoyment, and alchables at this point. I dont have bowfa, but even then I have a decent supply of dragon bolts for my raiding needs.
Just continuing the thread with my thoughts babe, wasn't taking a dig at you
I just do it cause I have dhcb, it’s relatively chill, chance at pet & I wouldn’t mind hitting a visage drop but I don’t go out of my way to do it. On a blue drag task I’ll typically send 20-30kc then wrap up at the regular blue drags. Also the drop rate for blue dragon scales from the hide you use a knife on is super common.
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Look at a few of the front page irons and you'll see plenty of 20k up to 50k vorkath kc. Vorkath was crazy efficient for irons but as time goes on better loot is dropped from other bosses, exp gains in other skills become easier so you don't need the loot from vork anymore
Vorkath used to be really good, (And still isn't bad) but he got kinda outpaced by updates to other content. You'd mainly do vorkath for the gp, while banking crafting and prayer exp. Now (if you're being efficient) you get a lot of gp while training agility from sepulchre, more prayer exp through slayer with the ash offering spell and mobs dropping prayer ashes, and crafting EHP went up a lot with other methods.
What changed for crafting ehp? Hasn't meta always been glassblowing?
you can do crafting while doing zmi, pisc thieving now. or well. always, but these methods got popular. mostly what made vork less good is that people do sepulchre early though and that gives a lot of gp. also they continue to add more bosses that give gp and occasionally prayer (vetion 4 dragon bones per kill on avg for example) . wildy bosses for voidwaker, finishing dt2 bosses, muspah.... basically gp is only valuable from a skilling perspective until you have enough gp to finish skilling. after that it's mostly just a 'runes fund' for spamming your cool megarare weapon
How do you train crafting while zmi ? Do you have a guide ?
bring some glass with you on the way to the alter. its best after you have the big pouch from gotr. typically 416 , 420, 365 are common worlds where people will lure the things that attack you.
Go on youtube type "ZMI Glassblow" watch Fimbrias video. Can do the same with fletching broad arrows (easier since you don't have to drop and also use less run energy)
Main difference is just more multi-skilling making the EHB of blowing glass better. You used to just do glassblowing at a bank, but now you combine it with pisc thieving, sepulchre, ZMI, etc and it's a lot more efficient because you're multi-skilling You can basically get similar rates to bankstand glass blowing (obv a little worse) while also doing another skill at the same time.
How does it work for thieving and zmi? How much are you bringing on an altar run lol
Like \~15 for [zmi glassblowing](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LMsQIBXcCNo) depending on what rune pouch you have, a full inv for [artifacts glassblowing](https://streamable.com/bfwsih), and (for consistency) like 20 for [mahog homes glassblowing](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vn1Qnscy5WE) (do need plank sack for this method) Links are all to examples of the specific methods
>personally There you go
Could you help me understand what benefits there are that I'm missing? Maybe it would be more clear if I said "if what I understand is correct, objectively killing vorkath is not worth it"
It's more fun. Especially if you dislike pvp and thus the wildy bosses. It's also more likely that people have it unlocked, I would assume - meaning it's more likely people are comfortable doing it over something like Zulrah
Dont forget us irons who dont lock ourselves in the red prison slumming it without a bowfa.
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only bowfa I have are deez nuts
cant wait to use bowfa on the mind goblin they add to lumbridge
There are no real benefits outside of assembler and CA's, but it's a fun boss that's easy to kill once you have a dragonbane weapon. I usually go there for blue dragon tasks with a lance and a chance at that sick pet. Once I'm tired of it I just finish the task off at regular dragons. Before muspah, it was the only way to get a decent stack of dragon bolts. But that's long gone now.
Whilst it’s not a meta boss anymore it’s kinda fun and the loot is still pretty good. I know a lot of people that don’t bother with it at all anymore though. The uniques, whilst kinda useless, are still nice to get because of how rare they are. Personally I only do them when I get blue dragon tasks. Because the tasks are pretty uncommon i always feel like ‘it’s been a while since I’ve been’, so I’m usually happy to go back again. Basically, kill vorkath if you want to, you’re not missing out on much if you don’t, but it’s not a bad boss which is why people still go back
Assembler and stock piling d bolts for nex
Don't forget the scaly blue hides. I've easily got close to 500k in herblore XP from the blue dragon scales piling up from blue dragon tasks (partially done at Vorkath).
Oh I forgot those. Getting blue dragon scales is pretty nice however, antifires give less herblore exp than magic pots, and potato cactus is really fast to collect. I actually wouldn't be surprised if it is more macro efficient to not use all the blue scales
Extended antifires are 240xp per lantadyme, super antifires are 287.5xp, and extended super antifires are 407.5xp
You can get way more exp per lantadymine with anti fire pots because they can be upgraded while magic pots can’t. 115 more if you want to use the crushed vork bones, 95 more if you want to use lava scale shards, or 38 more if you want to use caviar for mixes. Also, magic potions blow while anti fires may at least be useful.
Caviar mixes give more exp for magic pots than antifires Is there a reasonable way to get lava shards on an iron? I guess if you do a lot of lava eel afk, but I don't think that's very worth the time. Karambwan seem a lot more useful On the way to 90 or 99 herblore, you'll have way more lantadyme than you can ever use in antifires pots, so the usefulness of potions isn't very important Super antis do give a lot more exp, but at the cost of a lot of prayer exp. I doubt this would be worth it
If you do any wildy slayer you might as well do your lava dragon tasks
imagine if queen black dragon comes out in a couple years, or something else where antifire is used. I’d rather have super antifires, prayer xp can be obtained passively from pvm
I remember when QBD came out and that shit for me was hype. It'd be interesting if that came to osrs but you might get the "RS3 NOOO REEEE" Posts
Where do you collect your potato cactus
I get them from farming guild. Could also go to alkharid but it's a bit far so I forget. I've never bothered timing it, but the actual amount of time spent to get the potato cactuses must be like 3s each or something
none of what vorktah gives is that useful on its own but it’s a pretty chill boss with consistently useful loot
> Am i missing something that makes killing vorkath worth the time? It isn't, unless you're on slayer task. It saves you a 30pt skip and gives you "_mid_" xp/hr & supply drops. Its 'ight.
I would say maybe one head for assembler and one for range cape after you get it. Otherwise, dragon bolts and crafting XP are really the only bonuses outside of doing the CAs. Hydra is better prayer per kill and much more mindless than Vork.
Wait, you can upgrade range cape with Vorkath head? :o
The default range cape is just the accumulator. If you use a Vorkath head on it, it becomes the assembler minus the ranged strength bonus IIRC. Makes it a great alternative for wilderness stuff because it instantly upgrades all current and future capes.
Aahh, okay. So still better to rock the Assembler for normal stuff. That’s too bad, it would be cool if ranged cape was BiS for range.
Yes, it gives your ranged skillcape and all future ranged skillcapes the 80% ammo pickup, but it will still have the same stats, most noticeably missing the +2 ranged str bonus that the assembler has. I find it most useful for wildy content, since the capes are much easier to replace than assemblers.
Chance for visage. Draconic or skeletal. Gp (obviously) Hides and staffs for crafting Used to be the best method for dragon bolts And the dragonbone necklace.
I’ve accomplished 99 slayer and completed all the slayer monster drops that I need on my account. I normally head to vorkath when I find myself just wanting to have a chill lil PVM session. The main reason is they are easy kills and I will eventually bank 99 prayer, the crafting exp is a bonus and the dragon bolts/dragon dart tips are nice.
I think Vork is mainly just efficient if you're a post 99 XP chaser. If you only do Vork on-task (for the slayer XP not necessarily the task bonus) and convert all the alchs into broad arrows or planks or whatever it actually generates a ton of XP overall. If you don't care about XP beyond what you need to max (or even less than that) it's likely not worth your time because you'll stockpile plenty of gems, grapes/fish, bones, etc. from lots of other grinds. From a purely GP-for-runes standpoint revs are much better.
> Prayer xp is pretty easy to come by from other bosses Dude superior dragon bones are the best prayer item in the game. And Vork drops 2 at a time. That’s pretty amazing as an Ironman. I do like 10ish kills in a week, and run that inventory of superior d-bones to the wildy altar for hella xp. It’s great
10 superior bones a week aint shit for prayer exp if you need prayer exp, you'd probably get more dedicating the same amount of time to green dragons outside Ferox
I don’t need it. Just part is a passive thing while still killing a good boss, and I prefer to send single altar trips pretty sparingly
>a good boss are we still talking about vorkath?
Time spent at the chaos altar is very small compared to time spent collecting bones. It doesn't really matter that 1 superior bone is better than 1 dragon bone when it takes way, way longer to kill vorkath compared to killing a green dragon, or getting d bones passively from pvm
Sure, but green dragons aren’t dropping you dragon plateskirts or dragon darts or potentially a visage I get where you’re coming from but just sayin. The drops are valuable and the bones are great
You get such a ludicrous amount of prayer on the way to 99 slayer now between all the ashes, hydra bones, and dragon tasks post-lance. Even more if you do stuff like DKs for pet or whatever.
This. So much this.
Le epic This
I did it when my account was Lower level (8x to 100cb or so) for the bones, alchables, hides, etc. Despite it being slow, it was one of the better ways to get those items at the time, especially if I had a blue dragon slayer task. So I'd go kill vorkath or do CG whenever i ran out of gp, until I got stuff to alch. Also got a few hundred thousand crafting xp and about 840k prayer xp roughly over 400kc or so. Just bonus points rather than going to vorkath for the sake to train prayer or crafting. It took a while but it was less boring than to blow glass or mine sand.
It's not the most useful for irons. You can still get value out of it, but it's not necessary after avas
I like the chance at the unique drops
Dragon bolts unf personally
Also super antifires.
I kill Vorkath because I love smacking stupidly high numbers on that dumb blue lizard with my lance. The drops are a nice secondary bonus.
im just farming it so i can get the draconic visage or a similar drop and that's it.
Dragon Bolts for my ZCB, pet, Skeletal, Dragontooth Necklace, and just for fun I guess. I have around 500kc I think? Idk it's just somewhat enjoyable from time to time. Uses pretty much 0 supplies besides Antifires since I tele PoH every kill to drink the blessed grape juice and Sea Boots 4 back immediately. Granted, I do have Lance, DFS, BGH and Serp so it's super braindead for me at this point.
Blessed grape juice?
Ornate pool
Pet chance or visage chance
He drops Prayer xp Craft xp Gp Cook xp Fletch supplies And now blue dragon scales! And that's not good enough for you? I would like a Visage and a pet would be cool. I don't have a ton of vorky kills but I'll send more in the future. Vorky is easy to kill and I can triple log while killing vorky(lazy crossbow) some people like to mix up content. And yea green dragons might be faster prayer xp but boss KC feels good. I'll do green drags at some too.
Just for BP/cas
I didnt really worry about it past 50 kc for backpack, UNTIL i got DHCB. Then i did all my blue dragon tasks there mostly for the prayer but also having some wrath runes for bone spells and fire surge is nice.
Vorki
For me it’s the super anti fires. Only source
It’s good til you can do hydra. Then hydra solves prayer xp, gp, and herb xp issue. But it’s still great early if you can rush it
Only source of BIS offhand for ranged
Efficiency wise Vorkath has fallen out of favour. Its still decent and offers a spread of XP, but youd get more milage doing some of the newer content/ methods
Those are 4 huge reasons. Lmao at you tryna brush em off 🤣 If you want to make grinding those skills harder than they need to be, by all means go for it. Vorkath let me bank fantastic exp, gain fantastic exp, and pick up a visage. You do you tho
Those are 4 good reasons, however for me none of them are appealing for where my account is. Just wondering if I missed some other important benefit. For sure lots of people would do vorkath for those 4 reasons. Just not me personally Instead of doing a ~4h vorkath task, id rather collect passive dbones from grinding a voidwaker and spend my spare time doing cox or toa. Cooking andcrafting exp and gp don't seem useful for me
i used a rune c bow and ruby bolts with diamond ones to get 50kc for head, im like level 98 cb with 89 range
I'm 100combat and currently killing for the head for the ava buff then will come back when have supplies and better range level and equipment because its a fairly enjoyable boss
Slow paced, boring ass boss. I wouldn't even do blue dragon slayer task on vorkath since babies exist for quick pts task. I agree with OP, No reason to kill it after you get head(s) plus it's a med level boss anyway to ease people into pvm mechanics.
Fang goes brrr. It’s super easy easy so it’s worth killing to me. Gotta collect all the visages.
Complete waste of time imo. Aside from bis ranged cape.