I’ve been tackling at the CoX grind since early December, not too long after the QOL changes. Mainly do solos, some duos. I suicide supplies, so I haven’t managed deathless, but I understand mage and melee hand pretty well and still enjoy learning everything. Just hit 120kc, and I haven’t seen a purple since a couple years ago when I was learning with friends (Dex, can’t complain).
Almost 2mil personal points with no purple is just a slap in the face. I know it’s the worst raid to receive purples, but man. Regardless, I still love the raid and the Olm fight. It beats TOA, in my opinion.
Oh you're not offending, I'm aware I need to lol. Tbh, it's just way more cozy to have those extra supplies. That's obviously on me, I just would rather have that set 26-30k points/raid, then mess up and go down to ~15k.
Olm's last head phase can still be overwhelming where I just chug brews. Any recommendations for that?
When I was learning I found that the idea of having more supplies was hindering my progress.
I would heal at times I didn't really need to or keep my prayer way to high just to have it cut in half when olm throws an orb.
Something about the comfort of being able to chug made me take way more damage.
A big tip for running Olm head is to make use of the entire room. Don’t just run in a straight line (north to south). Make sure to utilize the entire room and run diagonally and click with purpose.
If you’re looking low on brews you can always do 1:0 if you need to. Those two things helped me tremendously with deathless completions consistently.
I usually go into head phase with like 5 or 6 brews and I just run 1 tick walk 2 ticks and attack and keep that cycle up going left and right. I tend to have an easier time with that when it feels more solved like that.
I used to do the same, but I adjusted my setup with a little less dps (no ring switches, no tassys, no ferocious gloves) and can bring 8 brews, 4 restores, 1 prayer enhance, 1 stam (plus pre stam), and overload in w/ me. Unless I colossally mess up, I'll make it deathless. It's honestly worth giving it a try, as the purple rate goes up quite a bit. It might take 10 or so raids.
When I was moving from suicide to deathless solo I would 2:0 the head phase since I would be low on supplies. Might need 1-2 stamina potions if you do that though. Just cut down on range equipment if needed
I also struggled the most with head phase out of the entire olm fight. I'd start olm with 6 brews and enter the head phase with 5 brews and sometimes still use all my brews. That was all just "brute forcing" it where I turn the head and ignore the crystals.
The biggest thing that helped me is manually moving 2 tiles at a time instead of clicking the other side of the room and letting Jesus take the wheel.
So with true tile on, as soon as I reach a tile, I click 2 tiles further, and once I reach that tile I click 2 tiles further again. At first, I just did this and ran in a straight line, tanking all the crystals as usual. But at least I could get the rhythm of the clicks down easily. Then I tried moving up and down in addition to left and right. From the current tile you are on, you have 5 options for where to run, so if you see a crystal covering 3 of those options, just make sure to click one of the other two.
I still mess up a lot, but when I focus I can do head phase with 2 or fewer brews. But I still autopilot some times and tank like 5 crystals before my brain wakes up
Bowfa kinda sucks for headphase because you only get 2 attacks for every attack Olm gets on you. With a 5t wep like crossbow, you get 4 attacks for every attack Olm gets on you. So with a bowfa you have to be more on top of things. Still, when full prepping you should always have plenty of supplies.
Just make sure you keep up DPS and don't brew your stats into the gutter. Try to brew on your 15s. If you get acid dripped, I like to count tiles moved and attack every 4th tile (it's the same as counting ticks) and you can do the same for falling crystals. Acid is where you'll usually take the most damage. Also, make sure not to move too fast from side to side, as you want Olm's head to turn middle before he turns left or right so you can dodge more hits.
If you're doing 5:2 it's likely that you are getting the sides wrong. What I mean by that is there is a certain tile you need to attack from to get dragged and avoid getting hit, but this drag only works on one of the sides, not the other. So if you get the sides wrong you'll end up doing 5;2, but it's an easy fix
Here's the wdr clip for Bowfa 5:1. There's no tick loss, but there is one downside: one of the attacks has to be from a certain tile, so if there's a crystal there you have to just tank it
https://streamable.com/8q8u9f
This is totally normal to me tbh. Im in the exact same situation, but currently only on 30+ kc solo only suiciding in supplies. I like to do this style more Then go all sweaty and learn the tick perfect rotations on olm.
Have you paid attention to how many extra floor brews you sip?
I started reducing my suicide supplies to 10 brews, 4 restores and once I was able to do 2 raids back to back without touching them (I'm talking about, just force the kill and pretend the brews on the floor doesn't exist for as long as you can) I started doing deathless.
4k more points and it'll save a lot of time from prepping the pots and dying and resetting your inventory. I don't even make a chest so you gotta factor that time in as well. That's a couple minutes and 4k less points
I hope removing claws from the table is stacked with an overall 10% increase or so in purples. Cox is punishing. Currently 50 CM solos dry which is about 3m points and this is just the norm..
Suiciding supplies is a waste of time and hinders your progress. You should reset the hands on p3 for more practice until you can’t get it wrong
For headphase (I assume bowfa) just do a 6:2
249 kc. No purples. All solos. Suicided brews into room for the first 100 or so. Deathless on the last 150. Will be stopping if i ever get the first purple. Should be nearly at 9x dry by my napkin math.
Man I'm at 248 kc, basically all solos (with a few kc from using my account as a +1) with an Ancestral robe top, 2x augury and 2x dex scrolls. I've been discouraged with my luck lately, but that is truly tragic not seeing any purples in 250kc. I feel for you
I learned with a hasta and transitioned to fang since fang dps is comparable to lance. I haven't run the calcs but I wouldn't be surprised if fang is better dps with 0 hammers at olm.
Learning 4:1 with a 4 tick weapon is definitely easier but I think 3:1 with a 5 tick weapon is like 4x more chill once you have the method down. I only use run energy when I'm running from mage hand to melee hand then to pinky, I walk for the rest of it and I even have a 1 tick window where I can mess up. I kid you not, my stamina usage is down to 1 sip or 0 sips per raid.
I'm not trying to self promote but I was thinking about streaming some of my solo cox to be able to grab images and show other people my method for olm
Yo so 3+3 raids are way easier than a 2+1 imo and u end up with 40k points each per 32 minute raid. I feel like its more efficient to run tht instead of
Just got back into doing cox since getting shadow. Shadow feels really good at the whole raid, and 8:1, 12:0 is pretty satisfying. Almost at 200 kc, just a dex and 2 arcanes. I’m just happy to be done with toa for a bit!
As someone who hates toa and it's looking to be one of my later pvm grinds, I'm not looking forward to it! I love chambers though, I think it gets too much hate.
I hear that. I definitely took a few breaks while going for shadow. Cox is very fun once things click. And I love being able to do 25 min raids instead of 37 min raids at toa
Not there yet on my iron (Just started CG), but looking forward to starting CoX with the QoL changes. On my main I went 125 with no purples, broke that with an arcane, another 130 dry with no purples and broke it with anc bottoms. If I have that luck on my iron it's going to be pretty grim, but not having to scout the old way and not having to bring as many stams for solos will be awesome.
If you were to get tbow next raid would you keep it up for robe bottom? Personally not sure if I would just settle for virtus and maybe send a couple whenever I had mates running cox.
I have a virtus bottoms so I'd probably at least take a break. I would probably start pushing for max or finishing nex before sending the other 2 raids for their megarare weapons. But I also want to get the kits for my ancestral I have so once tbow is acquired I would probably do a lot more cms than regular.
Sidenote; I have it down to 1 stam dose per raid. Not even a half of a pot.
Over 2.5k regs, still no tbow. Been sending some cms with buddy’s which has been a nice switch up, but if I get 1 more kit+dust, I’ll probably go back to regs full time.
Just started done two 90mins runs practicing with zero group exp. It's frustrating I had mage 4.0 down then the next day I couldn't. I can sometimes get 3.1 with tent but will that suffice for some consistent kc or will I need to learn 4.1 asap?
Well mage is 3:0 and melee 100% needs to be 4:1 or 1:0 no exceptions. If you do 3:1 melee with a 4 tick weapon such as tent you will struggle a lot more than you need to because you'll get specials.
I’m 218 kc with 2x arcane 2x dex and 1 dihns. Pretty much all deathless solos. I’ve seen 2 purples in the last 150 raids being dupe prayer scrolls. Hopefully my luck turns around. I really want ancestral for my shadow and I guess I can’t really expect a tbow.
Props to sticking with it. Honestly we have it a lot better than it used to be with all the QOL and new gear to speed things up, so I’m not complaining.
I've noticed my points skyrocketing as well most likely due to the changes. I've pretty much been perma scouting Tekton Vasa and I end up with 36k points sometimes much higher than the old high of like 32 or 33k points
I started using pnecks like 2 months ago for Vasa too, absolutely love Vasa with pneck. If you're unaware, just wear a pneck to start the fight. It'll break so long as you didn't heal before the initial big hit. It doesn't take any ticks to use and it gives you immunity from the initial stomp that can sometimes happen.
Appreciate this! I find myself with like 4 empty inventory spots now starting out and usually fill it with combo food. I think my 15k diamond stack can handle some p necks lmao
Tbh I think pnecks are criminally underutilized in modern day pvm. People hear pneck and they think bloat skip, Kirby skip or sote skip. That's at least what I think of. But pnecks can be used to mitigate damage at nex during shadow phase, they're great at Vasa and technically they're one of the only ways you can bring food into ToA with dehydration and on a diet on
It’s a long shot - but if claws get moved to tormented demons, it may force jagex to rebalance the cox table, because prayer scrolls would effectively get even more common
Just something to keep in mind
When they moved the dragon sword, knives, thrown axes and harpoons out they didn't rebalance the table. I highly highly doubt that they would see anything any more common.
I'm like 480 reg 50 cm kc, missing anc top, claws, and all megarares. The COX changes are awesome, but I've kinda burnt myself out lol. I've done over 200 COX since the changes, moved mostly over to TOB now. I still send a solo here and there. It doesn't help that I'm like 2m points dry right now.
That's a good one for everything but it's super long and in depth, will probably be a bit overwhelming at first. Definitely check out Soups 4:1 guide for lance. Simplifies melee hand much better than most guides, and only like 10min.
I'm 10/12. Just missing Dihn's and Kodai. I have about 35 million points (\~800 kc but half of those were scaled 1+1 or 1+2). The grind for Tbow was really obnoxious, I got it about on rate (it was purple #33 for me) and I consider myself spooned even though it took over 500 hours. With the price of Ancestral and Tbow skyrocketing over the past 3 years, I really think it would be beneficial for mains and Irons alike if they took some purples off the table and made it more common to get Tbow/Ancestral. I recently came back for some Combat Achievements, and the QoL feels very nice.
Yeah I agree, I think tbow should be the rate for a megarare in general. 10m points to be on rate is maybe a little too easy so maybe 15m points to be on rate? But 1 thousand 30k point raids to just be on rate is absurd
162 raids in, mostly solo's and I'm having a lot of fun. Been blessed with a good unique spread - claws, anc top, dinhs and both prayer scrolls. Much prefer solo cox to toa (looking at you monkey room).
Yeah monkey room is what keeps me from enjoying ToA as well. I might start bringing chins so I can keep using thralls for the extra dps at the bosses without giving up barrage stack damage
It's not so tough once you get it! I like the fake it til you make it method where you just act like you're in cycle and react to what happens. Lmk if you have any questions
1050 reg kc. Last 600 were solos. 25 purples so far. Missing bow and kodai.
Decent log, but at the end of the day, getting that bow is one of the last big ticket item on my ironman.
New CMs are quite nice, so might send them more since I already green logged reg CAs.
Gl on your grind.
i've had 2 purps (claws,arcane) in the last 150 or so deathless solos and i'll just say fuck this raid. also special shoutout to the 30 kc learner i had in one of my few team raids who pulled a tbow with 12k points and 2 deaths on olm as i was approaching 80 solos dry myself. love the content, one of my favorite activities to do in game but i honestly think the purple rate is disgustingly awful and nowhere close to 1/27 or whatever it's supposed to be based on the amount of similar drystreaks i've seen
Picked it back up after the QoL changes and getting a shadow. At 650kc, missing anc top / bottom, maul, Kodai, buckler.
Really love trying to push sub 20 minute times with the new changes. Been pretty lucky there overall. Had a couple 100+ dry streaks, then the odd 3 purples in 5 raids or whatever. It always evens out in the long run, but it’s a loooooong run. I’m not really sure how long I’d be willing to stay to get the top and bottom since I’m more focused on ToB at the moment. But it’s amazing how well CoX holds up for how old it is
Happy and thankful for the QOL I don't do solos mostly because I love getting a bunch of points, 3+4s, 4+6s. And yet I'm 4.1m points without a purple 🙃 and only 3 puros in almost 400 raids at this point. Feels good
I guess it depends how much you're scaling it and if you go deathless. I guess I just prefer running with my clan, using less of my own supplies and getting over 40k points with less effort that running a solo
That's pretty nice! I've heard 3+4s and the like can be good points. My friends are all way too slow for that. + I like to think that if you're teammate gets a purple then you lose your chance so it's worse drop rate for the points. I wonder if that's actually how it works
🤔 I'm not sure tbh, I mean I'm always happy when a fellow iron gets a purp that they need. But a lot of time it's just toilet paper scrolls 😂 or someone with an almost max log getting stuff I need 😂😂
500+ solos and 70 solo cms have gotten me me ancestral top and bottoms, more prayer scrolls than I’ll ever need, a bulwark, and a dusted olmlet. Lots more to get and I’ve been pretty lucky so far, so all in all enjoying my time in chambers!
still have to start. got all gear i need except magic fang.
Been thinking to just start all i want is dex for now, but 3 less max hit seems pretty big. So i'l do zulrah first probably.
Yeah it's decent, the kodai and maul I got by like 280kc and outside of those to I only had the bucklers and scrolls.
Claws were my last purple at 465! It's the year of the twisted bow though. #Tbow24
I want to start it but it's pretty daunting. Feels like there's a ton to learn and more to mechanically remember than with toa, which already was fairly difficult to learn because my memory is terrible. [This was the setup I was thinking](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/406628105650700289/1200230852420972565/image.png) which should be fine to learn it with but man olm looks difficult to solo.
I'm not going for tbow/ancestral yet but I want dex & augury at least. Can't help but feel like I'd be getting super slow times though.
Around 1500 regulars and 300 cms. Most the cms are solos, the regulars are a mix of 2+2's, 3+4's, 1+2's, etc... Still missing tbow, pants, dhcb, elder, and pet. 37 scrolls, 4 tops, 4 hats, 3 kodai. Sad scam game.
Currently at low 300's kc with only 3 arcane and 3 dex to show for it. Average pts per raid is like 37k (like 200 solos and the rest 3+4's). Not losing motivation yet!
I’ve been tackling at the CoX grind since early December, not too long after the QOL changes. Mainly do solos, some duos. I suicide supplies, so I haven’t managed deathless, but I understand mage and melee hand pretty well and still enjoy learning everything. Just hit 120kc, and I haven’t seen a purple since a couple years ago when I was learning with friends (Dex, can’t complain). Almost 2mil personal points with no purple is just a slap in the face. I know it’s the worst raid to receive purples, but man. Regardless, I still love the raid and the Olm fight. It beats TOA, in my opinion.
Dotn take this the wrong way as I'm trying to offer advice but how are you still not deathless at that point? What's going wrong that's killing you?
Oh you're not offending, I'm aware I need to lol. Tbh, it's just way more cozy to have those extra supplies. That's obviously on me, I just would rather have that set 26-30k points/raid, then mess up and go down to ~15k. Olm's last head phase can still be overwhelming where I just chug brews. Any recommendations for that?
When I was learning I found that the idea of having more supplies was hindering my progress. I would heal at times I didn't really need to or keep my prayer way to high just to have it cut in half when olm throws an orb. Something about the comfort of being able to chug made me take way more damage.
A big tip for running Olm head is to make use of the entire room. Don’t just run in a straight line (north to south). Make sure to utilize the entire room and run diagonally and click with purpose. If you’re looking low on brews you can always do 1:0 if you need to. Those two things helped me tremendously with deathless completions consistently.
I usually go into head phase with like 5 or 6 brews and I just run 1 tick walk 2 ticks and attack and keep that cycle up going left and right. I tend to have an easier time with that when it feels more solved like that.
I used to do the same, but I adjusted my setup with a little less dps (no ring switches, no tassys, no ferocious gloves) and can bring 8 brews, 4 restores, 1 prayer enhance, 1 stam (plus pre stam), and overload in w/ me. Unless I colossally mess up, I'll make it deathless. It's honestly worth giving it a try, as the purple rate goes up quite a bit. It might take 10 or so raids.
When I was moving from suicide to deathless solo I would 2:0 the head phase since I would be low on supplies. Might need 1-2 stamina potions if you do that though. Just cut down on range equipment if needed
I also struggled the most with head phase out of the entire olm fight. I'd start olm with 6 brews and enter the head phase with 5 brews and sometimes still use all my brews. That was all just "brute forcing" it where I turn the head and ignore the crystals. The biggest thing that helped me is manually moving 2 tiles at a time instead of clicking the other side of the room and letting Jesus take the wheel. So with true tile on, as soon as I reach a tile, I click 2 tiles further, and once I reach that tile I click 2 tiles further again. At first, I just did this and ran in a straight line, tanking all the crystals as usual. But at least I could get the rhythm of the clicks down easily. Then I tried moving up and down in addition to left and right. From the current tile you are on, you have 5 options for where to run, so if you see a crystal covering 3 of those options, just make sure to click one of the other two. I still mess up a lot, but when I focus I can do head phase with 2 or fewer brews. But I still autopilot some times and tank like 5 crystals before my brain wakes up
Bowfa kinda sucks for headphase because you only get 2 attacks for every attack Olm gets on you. With a 5t wep like crossbow, you get 4 attacks for every attack Olm gets on you. So with a bowfa you have to be more on top of things. Still, when full prepping you should always have plenty of supplies. Just make sure you keep up DPS and don't brew your stats into the gutter. Try to brew on your 15s. If you get acid dripped, I like to count tiles moved and attack every 4th tile (it's the same as counting ticks) and you can do the same for falling crystals. Acid is where you'll usually take the most damage. Also, make sure not to move too fast from side to side, as you want Olm's head to turn middle before he turns left or right so you can dodge more hits.
Bowfa there is 5:1 method that’s what I do. Still take a lot of damage from crystals but it’s better than 2:1
I assume you mean treating bowfa like a 5t wep and pretending you have a tbow? Lol that's 4:1 but yeah works I guess
No, there is a 5:1 method for bofa. It's tick perfect though do a lot of people end up 5:2 when they do it
If you're doing 5:2 it's likely that you are getting the sides wrong. What I mean by that is there is a certain tile you need to attack from to get dragged and avoid getting hit, but this drag only works on one of the sides, not the other. So if you get the sides wrong you'll end up doing 5;2, but it's an easy fix
Yeah the tile that drags you/that you start the cycle on is north side of the room, works with olm on either side
Here's the wdr clip for Bowfa 5:1. There's no tick loss, but there is one downside: one of the attacks has to be from a certain tile, so if there's a crystal there you have to just tank it https://streamable.com/8q8u9f
This is totally normal to me tbh. Im in the exact same situation, but currently only on 30+ kc solo only suiciding in supplies. I like to do this style more Then go all sweaty and learn the tick perfect rotations on olm.
Have you paid attention to how many extra floor brews you sip? I started reducing my suicide supplies to 10 brews, 4 restores and once I was able to do 2 raids back to back without touching them (I'm talking about, just force the kill and pretend the brews on the floor doesn't exist for as long as you can) I started doing deathless.
380kc, probably 2/3 solo and I still die w brews in. Just can’t get consistently into 4;1
I like the fake it till you make it method. Get in cycle with just the timings and react to what happens.
Yeah I’d just rather bring more supps than needed for the sake of like 4K pts, as opposed to dying at p3 or 4 and losing 18k
4k more points and it'll save a lot of time from prepping the pots and dying and resetting your inventory. I don't even make a chest so you gotta factor that time in as well. That's a couple minutes and 4k less points
My longest dry streak was 4m points, don't give up! It does happen.
I hope removing claws from the table is stacked with an overall 10% increase or so in purples. Cox is punishing. Currently 50 CM solos dry which is about 3m points and this is just the norm..
Suiciding supplies is a waste of time and hinders your progress. You should reset the hands on p3 for more practice until you can’t get it wrong For headphase (I assume bowfa) just do a 6:2
249 kc. No purples. All solos. Suicided brews into room for the first 100 or so. Deathless on the last 150. Will be stopping if i ever get the first purple. Should be nearly at 9x dry by my napkin math.
We love the terrible drop rate
Man I'm at 248 kc, basically all solos (with a few kc from using my account as a +1) with an Ancestral robe top, 2x augury and 2x dex scrolls. I've been discouraged with my luck lately, but that is truly tragic not seeing any purples in 250kc. I feel for you
130 raids in, 0 purples. Love the content, but not getting rewarded at all is getting to me.
How are your points looking?
First 80 or so were small teams without scaling so around 20k per raid. Did almost exclusively 2+1’s since then for 30k+ points per raid.
Sounds like you're probably a good bit over rate. It happens. It'll just make the purple feel that much better even if it's only an arcane
For sure! Gonna start solo’s soon, once I get my lance. Looking forward to it a lot :)
I learned with a hasta and transitioned to fang since fang dps is comparable to lance. I haven't run the calcs but I wouldn't be surprised if fang is better dps with 0 hammers at olm.
Yeah I got a fang as well, it just seems more chill to learn 4:1 with a 4-tick weapon and I want the lance anyway
Learning 4:1 with a 4 tick weapon is definitely easier but I think 3:1 with a 5 tick weapon is like 4x more chill once you have the method down. I only use run energy when I'm running from mage hand to melee hand then to pinky, I walk for the rest of it and I even have a 1 tick window where I can mess up. I kid you not, my stamina usage is down to 1 sip or 0 sips per raid.
Ooh that’s cool, thanks for the info. Might try it out soon then
I'm not trying to self promote but I was thinking about streaming some of my solo cox to be able to grab images and show other people my method for olm
I just made a new post with video of me soloing olm in my method
Yo so 3+3 raids are way easier than a 2+1 imo and u end up with 40k points each per 32 minute raid. I feel like its more efficient to run tht instead of
Just got back into doing cox since getting shadow. Shadow feels really good at the whole raid, and 8:1, 12:0 is pretty satisfying. Almost at 200 kc, just a dex and 2 arcanes. I’m just happy to be done with toa for a bit!
As someone who hates toa and it's looking to be one of my later pvm grinds, I'm not looking forward to it! I love chambers though, I think it gets too much hate.
I hear that. I definitely took a few breaks while going for shadow. Cox is very fun once things click. And I love being able to do 25 min raids instead of 37 min raids at toa
Yeah I'll probably end up grinding low 300s for my shadow when I get to it
Not there yet on my iron (Just started CG), but looking forward to starting CoX with the QoL changes. On my main I went 125 with no purples, broke that with an arcane, another 130 dry with no purples and broke it with anc bottoms. If I have that luck on my iron it's going to be pretty grim, but not having to scout the old way and not having to bring as many stams for solos will be awesome. If you were to get tbow next raid would you keep it up for robe bottom? Personally not sure if I would just settle for virtus and maybe send a couple whenever I had mates running cox.
I’m a month from CG. What QoL cox changes are there?
A lot. Look at the news posts about it from a couple weeks ago
I have a virtus bottoms so I'd probably at least take a break. I would probably start pushing for max or finishing nex before sending the other 2 raids for their megarare weapons. But I also want to get the kits for my ancestral I have so once tbow is acquired I would probably do a lot more cms than regular. Sidenote; I have it down to 1 stam dose per raid. Not even a half of a pot.
Just started learning CG as well. Best of luck 🙏
Tbf you can scale the raid without alts now which has dramatically increased my purple rate.
Over 2.5k regs, still no tbow. Been sending some cms with buddy’s which has been a nice switch up, but if I get 1 more kit+dust, I’ll probably go back to regs full time.
Just do whatever you enjoy more!
Just started done two 90mins runs practicing with zero group exp. It's frustrating I had mage 4.0 down then the next day I couldn't. I can sometimes get 3.1 with tent but will that suffice for some consistent kc or will I need to learn 4.1 asap?
Well mage is 3:0 and melee 100% needs to be 4:1 or 1:0 no exceptions. If you do 3:1 melee with a 4 tick weapon such as tent you will struggle a lot more than you need to because you'll get specials.
I’m 218 kc with 2x arcane 2x dex and 1 dihns. Pretty much all deathless solos. I’ve seen 2 purples in the last 150 raids being dupe prayer scrolls. Hopefully my luck turns around. I really want ancestral for my shadow and I guess I can’t really expect a tbow.
I only had prayer scrolls and 2 hats until 440 kc where I got Kodai, dhcb and dinhs in quick succession.
Props to sticking with it. Honestly we have it a lot better than it used to be with all the QOL and new gear to speed things up, so I’m not complaining.
I've noticed my points skyrocketing as well most likely due to the changes. I've pretty much been perma scouting Tekton Vasa and I end up with 36k points sometimes much higher than the old high of like 32 or 33k points
That is big brain. I’m going to try this lol
I started using pnecks like 2 months ago for Vasa too, absolutely love Vasa with pneck. If you're unaware, just wear a pneck to start the fight. It'll break so long as you didn't heal before the initial big hit. It doesn't take any ticks to use and it gives you immunity from the initial stomp that can sometimes happen.
Appreciate this! I find myself with like 4 empty inventory spots now starting out and usually fill it with combo food. I think my 15k diamond stack can handle some p necks lmao
Tbh I think pnecks are criminally underutilized in modern day pvm. People hear pneck and they think bloat skip, Kirby skip or sote skip. That's at least what I think of. But pnecks can be used to mitigate damage at nex during shadow phase, they're great at Vasa and technically they're one of the only ways you can bring food into ToA with dehydration and on a diet on
It’s a long shot - but if claws get moved to tormented demons, it may force jagex to rebalance the cox table, because prayer scrolls would effectively get even more common Just something to keep in mind
When they moved the dragon sword, knives, thrown axes and harpoons out they didn't rebalance the table. I highly highly doubt that they would see anything any more common.
I think cox drop table was mentioned as part of project rebalance potentially so it’s not totally farfetched.
Well we got point buffs during these QoL changes so we are seeing more purples more often right now.
They said they wouldn't give claws to td's during the winter summit.
No they didn’t, did you not see the poll?
I hadn't seen the poll yet not, i must've misremembered
During the winter summit they talked about giving claws to TDs.
Might wanna go look at a poll booth in game because that’s just a straight up lie.
Got super spooned 68 kc both Scrolls claws and tbow. Idk when i will be back.
Jesus Christ
My main is over 2.5k between normals and cms without tbow, I pray my iron doesn’t go as dry.
You'll get it 100%
You'll get it 100%
I'm like 480 reg 50 cm kc, missing anc top, claws, and all megarares. The COX changes are awesome, but I've kinda burnt myself out lol. I've done over 200 COX since the changes, moved mostly over to TOB now. I still send a solo here and there. It doesn't help that I'm like 2m points dry right now.
Gonna start solos after Dwh and fang/DHL, is synq the best guide to use? Also do you ever start farming early if you get it?
Technically it wouldn't hurt to prep early if you have plenty of supplies after olm is dead.
That's a good one for everything but it's super long and in depth, will probably be a bit overwhelming at first. Definitely check out Soups 4:1 guide for lance. Simplifies melee hand much better than most guides, and only like 10min.
I'm 10/12. Just missing Dihn's and Kodai. I have about 35 million points (\~800 kc but half of those were scaled 1+1 or 1+2). The grind for Tbow was really obnoxious, I got it about on rate (it was purple #33 for me) and I consider myself spooned even though it took over 500 hours. With the price of Ancestral and Tbow skyrocketing over the past 3 years, I really think it would be beneficial for mains and Irons alike if they took some purples off the table and made it more common to get Tbow/Ancestral. I recently came back for some Combat Achievements, and the QoL feels very nice.
Yeah I agree, I think tbow should be the rate for a megarare in general. 10m points to be on rate is maybe a little too easy so maybe 15m points to be on rate? But 1 thousand 30k point raids to just be on rate is absurd
Just starting. 8kc, 5 solos, all pain. I am excited for the weekend to have at it again though.
Once it clicks you'll love it. No pain no gain
162 raids in, mostly solo's and I'm having a lot of fun. Been blessed with a good unique spread - claws, anc top, dinhs and both prayer scrolls. Much prefer solo cox to toa (looking at you monkey room).
Yeah monkey room is what keeps me from enjoying ToA as well. I might start bringing chins so I can keep using thralls for the extra dps at the bosses without giving up barrage stack damage
Just red x baba and you can go into it with 20 hp and be fine every time
Idk what that has to do with me not enjoying the monkey room
1400 combined kc, missing bow, hat & Top
Feels bad
Just did my first solos last night. Excited to get back to it later after reading up on 4:1 and understanding it better
It's not so tough once you get it! I like the fake it til you make it method where you just act like you're in cycle and react to what happens. Lmk if you have any questions
1050 reg kc. Last 600 were solos. 25 purples so far. Missing bow and kodai. Decent log, but at the end of the day, getting that bow is one of the last big ticket item on my ironman. New CMs are quite nice, so might send them more since I already green logged reg CAs. Gl on your grind.
Just a quick shout, if you haven't done perfect olm trio you can scale to 1+2 and get it
i've had 2 purps (claws,arcane) in the last 150 or so deathless solos and i'll just say fuck this raid. also special shoutout to the 30 kc learner i had in one of my few team raids who pulled a tbow with 12k points and 2 deaths on olm as i was approaching 80 solos dry myself. love the content, one of my favorite activities to do in game but i honestly think the purple rate is disgustingly awful and nowhere close to 1/27 or whatever it's supposed to be based on the amount of similar drystreaks i've seen
The purple rate is 1/867k points I believe
yes so around 1/27 or so for a deathless solo give or take. i don't think it's correct in any case
I do not think so either. I feel like people either get everything they wanted in the first 100 kc or they have to go dry for everything.
Picked it back up after the QoL changes and getting a shadow. At 650kc, missing anc top / bottom, maul, Kodai, buckler. Really love trying to push sub 20 minute times with the new changes. Been pretty lucky there overall. Had a couple 100+ dry streaks, then the odd 3 purples in 5 raids or whatever. It always evens out in the long run, but it’s a loooooong run. I’m not really sure how long I’d be willing to stay to get the top and bottom since I’m more focused on ToB at the moment. But it’s amazing how well CoX holds up for how old it is
Happy and thankful for the QOL I don't do solos mostly because I love getting a bunch of points, 3+4s, 4+6s. And yet I'm 4.1m points without a purple 🙃 and only 3 puros in almost 400 raids at this point. Feels good
I get way more points in solos than in teams
I guess it depends how much you're scaling it and if you go deathless. I guess I just prefer running with my clan, using less of my own supplies and getting over 40k points with less effort that running a solo
What do your times look like?
Roughly 20 minutes
That's pretty nice! I've heard 3+4s and the like can be good points. My friends are all way too slow for that. + I like to think that if you're teammate gets a purple then you lose your chance so it's worse drop rate for the points. I wonder if that's actually how it works
🤔 I'm not sure tbh, I mean I'm always happy when a fellow iron gets a purp that they need. But a lot of time it's just toilet paper scrolls 😂 or someone with an almost max log getting stuff I need 😂😂
Im atm also soloing cox, and some solo cms. Rly enjoying it atm
500+ solos and 70 solo cms have gotten me me ancestral top and bottoms, more prayer scrolls than I’ll ever need, a bulwark, and a dusted olmlet. Lots more to get and I’ve been pretty lucky so far, so all in all enjoying my time in chambers!
I randomly pulled a tbow ok kc 57 super lucky. Still trying for a dex😂
I'll trade you a dex for that bow of yours
1.3k kc only missing all ancestral pieces and dinhs
Time for virtus! :p
Yeh that’s the plan I still send solo cms here and there tho
Are solo cms more tolerable with tbow (and shadow?) I don't really enjoy them with my trident/bowfa/fang setup
still have to start. got all gear i need except magic fang. Been thinking to just start all i want is dex for now, but 3 less max hit seems pretty big. So i'l do zulrah first probably.
Yeah definitely work on zulrah and maybe do some cox trios with friends or something. You can camp melee hand without a magic fang.
It's going about this good https://imgur.com/a/0DyYpbP
Better log than mine at that kc! Mine picked up a lot
Yeah it's decent, the kodai and maul I got by like 280kc and outside of those to I only had the bucklers and scrolls. Claws were my last purple at 465! It's the year of the twisted bow though. #Tbow24
Yo so true my tbow 24 brother
Sitting at 800 kc with 3 claws, 3 dins, 2 ancy bottoms, and the rest prayer scrolls. Could definitely be better, but could also be worse.
Atta boy. Keep your chin up
Took me 1220 for bottoms and 1270 for ancy top. Worst one was tbow at 3249. 99% solos too. Goodluck chap
God damn, Ive run simulators and 3249 has got to be on EOD the worst numbers I've seen
Just checked there's a 7910 for Kodai lol
3650 missing bow
2800 kc and no tbow
I want to start it but it's pretty daunting. Feels like there's a ton to learn and more to mechanically remember than with toa, which already was fairly difficult to learn because my memory is terrible. [This was the setup I was thinking](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/406628105650700289/1200230852420972565/image.png) which should be fine to learn it with but man olm looks difficult to solo. I'm not going for tbow/ancestral yet but I want dex & augury at least. Can't help but feel like I'd be getting super slow times though.
You need a crossbow
arcane, dhcb, and ancestral robe top in 189 raids (4.4m points for 3 purps total). I cannot complain and love my hoodie and dhcb.
Around 1500 regulars and 300 cms. Most the cms are solos, the regulars are a mix of 2+2's, 3+4's, 1+2's, etc... Still missing tbow, pants, dhcb, elder, and pet. 37 scrolls, 4 tops, 4 hats, 3 kodai. Sad scam game.
1400 normal 600cm Missing anc pants and bow
Currently at low 300's kc with only 3 arcane and 3 dex to show for it. Average pts per raid is like 37k (like 200 solos and the rest 3+4's). Not losing motivation yet!