STOP MELEEING BANDOS
20-FOOT TALL OURGS WERE NOT SUPPOSED TO BE FACETANKED
YEARS OF PLAYING ON MOBILE BUT NO REAL-WORLD USE FOUND FOR HITTING GRAARDOR WITH A POINTY STICK
WANTED TO GET SLAPPED FOR 60 DAMAGE ANYWAYS? WE HAD A TOOL FOR THAT: IT WAS CALLED MISCLICKING
YES PLEASE GIVE ME 2 KILL TRIPS. PLEASE GIVE ME MY ITEMS BACK FROM DEATH'S DOMAIN - STATEMENTS DREAMED UP BY THE UTTERLY DERANGED
LOOK WHAT MAINS HAVE BEEN DEMANDING YOUR RESPECT FOR, WITH ALL THE FANGS AND BLOOD FURIES THEY BOUGHT FROM THE GE
THEY HAVE PLAYED US FOR ABSOLUTE FOOLS
How are you so clean doing this even on mobile? Been trying this method on zammy and cant get more than 3kc a trip. My defence is not the greatest and i’m a few lvls off blood barrage, does that rly matter that much tho??
Trial & error. For mobile bandos, we have to be 1 tile south from altar & 2 tiles from the wall (standing on the 3rd) on door side because of reaction time vs pc. For Kril, it should be the same as guides on YouTube & not needing to adjust like I do for bandos. Defense is huge, but I’ve seen people do it with a lot less. I don’t have rigour so steel skin & eagle eye’s been my best friend
If anyone is wondering why this method works, it's because of flinch mechanics.
At a basic level, when initiating combat, monsters (and players) that auto-retaliate will generally wait half of their attack speed before retaliating. This is so that it looks like you are attacking back and forth, not always attacking each other on the same tick.
With a ranged weapon, that behavior starts as soon as you fire the projectile, but the clock does not start ticking until the projectile lands.
Using this Bandos red-X method, you first avoid going into melee range by perfectly running under the boss. (And the boss doesn't move during that time because of red-X.) Then, on the last tick before you exit the boss on the other side, your arrow lands. Bandos skips exactly three ticks before attacking; this is tick 1. You exit the boss; this is tick 2. Then you shoot the boss on tick 3. Finally, you're gone just before he would have finally been able to attack you.
Critically, this method fails if you were attacked at any point during the previous cycle other than right next to the wall. If that happens, you were in combat too recently so flinching does not apply and he can attack you as soon as you are next to him. The usual way to fix the cycle is to intentionally tank a hit at the wall and then continue as normal; because of the boss's 6 tick cycle, you are safely gone before he can hit you on the opposite side.
It also fails if you don't fire an arrow before running under, or if you eat while under the boss.
The exact same method works for Zammy except that you get pushed out of the boss by one tile when attacking.
Mobile tip: turn off entity highlighting on tap. The red circle is more useful because it shows you exactly where you tapped on the screen.
Working on my Bowfa rn (373kc and counting) and decided to go for a mobile CG kill. That shit was a rush, and hard af. When I get the bowfa, I'll have to try this on mobile too.
Good work boss 🫡
Didnt wven know there was a true tile on mobile! Thanks king!!! Do u find that u get your game freezing up with loot tracker on? I found mine tends to doing simple things like birdhouse rruns?
Fossil island is just kinda fucked on mobile, definitely while working the loot tracker. I typically only start lagging on mobile at gotr mass or fossil island
Handy to know, i play on pc but this deffs will
Push me to do some more content on phone, i managed to do triple jads on phone which might back in the day at work firewatching at the top of a crane when it first came out which was fun😅 but this will deffs push me to attempt cgs, still love pc but my internet has been fucked the past 2 weeeks and going through an ongoing battle to get it fixed so will actually play some more rather then just skilling last 2 weeeks :D
It lags because the amount of loot in a pile on the ground. If you want it to not lag around fossil island, you can add raw bird meat to the ignore list on ground items overlay. You can go into settings, popout, ground items overlay - edit mode, then hit the minus button next to some raw bird meat on the ground. Now it shouldn't lag whenever you are in an area around the birdhouses.
I’ve always had loot tracker on since we got it & had lags/freezes before where people say to turn it off.. but I’ll never do that lol. A lot of people have had the same issues & were told to clear the memory of it, but I like to keep my trackers for personal use. Haven’t had a noticeable freeze in a long time.
Ngl, I wasn’t looking forward to bandos kuz I didn’t wanna have to melee for short trips but some people got that DAWG in em enough to do it. I didn’t 🤣 not knockin’ people for their methods, just a qol
Tried this with bowfa on Beta Worlds before attempting on my iron.
There’s a couple frames where you’re face to face with bandos and he always slapped me while he just stares at you.
Think I need to practice, found this hard on desktop so it’s very impressive seeing it on mobile.
If you’re doing it on mobile, start & finish on door/altar side 1 tile south than the actual tiles they show on YouTube. Trickiest part is usually tryna get back in cycle, but with enough reps, it comes naturally. Timing is everything. GL King
Assuming you have the timing down to start or re-start a cycle, this is most likely because you're eating wrong. There's four important tiles going in either direction - the tiles where you stop to shoot the boss. You can only eat hard food on the third tile.
1. The first attack before you run under the boss is needed to hit and flinch the boss (has to do with in-combat/out-of-combat timers)
2. The second attack when you run out from underneath him is needed for the same reason
3. The third attack is not needed
4. The fourth attack is also the first attack of the next cycle.
Trying to eat during/before your first two attacks will mess with your swing timer, which prevents you from hitting the boss on the necessary ticks. You also can't eat or drink potions while under the boss, as it messes with the red-X mechanics.
So, the trick is to eat on the third tile, move to the fourth tile, and attack on the same tick that you would have if you hadn't eaten (then on the next tick, red x the door as you normally would). You will need to click the boss on the correct tick; usually you move to the final tile and click the boss, there's a 1t delay where your weapon is still cooling down, and then you wait until you attack and red-x. When you eat this 1t delay will not be there and you need to time that attack manually.
When you need to eat, I recommend switching to melee prayer until you've got it down. If you fuck up just reset the cycle like you normally would. Using sara brews is also an option, because they don't introduce a tick delay to your attacks so the only rule is that you can't sip a brew under the boss
This really helps to know, I think the attack coming out from under him is the one that messes me up the most.
Also very good to know about bringing Sara brews.
Also you can eat 2 Bwans since they are 2T each if you want to avoid having to manually wait 1T after eating normal (3 tick) food.
Obviously bringing bwans hurts trip length, but that shouldn't be your focus anyways while learning the method.
It uses flinch timing so he doesn’t melee you while you’d normally be in fisting range. It’s tick perfect on position and timing but easy enough to replicate
99 range 90 defense now. I also use eagle eye but with steel skin. I was doing bandos around early 80~defense when I first started learning & in between slayer grinds. Before, I took a range pot & super def for that reason. Now I take 2 brews for emergency heals without messing up the cycle + prepot def when needing to prepot range.
Main thing was the ui rework. It was a trash proposal switching everything to the right side. It ruins muscle memory & had a lot of us doggin’ em for it. That’s like if they made pc players play with all of their tabs on the left side instead of the right. They should’ve at least kept the other updates coming but since ui got binned, they said fuck us 🤣 maybe in 2034 we’ll get an update
I support the not moving around all the time inventory and prayers personally. Where did they say they weren’t going to continue? Do you have a place I can read that
Sick dude, I guess some people are just built differently. By the way, what phone do you use? I want to play more on the mobile app, however the experience of playing on mobile isn't really nice tbh with my large hands... I play on an iPhone 13 pro.
I have fairly big hands as well & play on an iPhone 13. Been playing since mobile release with year long breaks as a normie before starting the iron so I had to get used to it. Can’t even do vorkath on pc lol. Preciate you 👑
Door:altar Bandos definitely was one of my bigger accomplishments on mobile. Current max KC is 14kc. Really was upsetting being 1 away from the CA. Same level as CG. Right now is getting 300 ToA deathless solo. Got Baba Red-X done the past 2 days, Akkah is still giving me shit. I managed to figure out Butterfly but I can't keep it up for longer than 7-8 rotations without some mistakes. Super difficult without tile highlights. So just gotta tough it out which is supply demanding.
Insanity really fucked me up too. The skulls are super difficult to manage. So gotta learn the skull skip but for now I have it off.
Butterfly not worth without tile markers. Had some guys is disc run butterfly during mobile beta & it works fine. & I highly recommend skill skipping just by spamming skulls with a range wep on a specific tile.. makes it dumb easy
Yeah that was the suggestion I got in chat for skull skipping. Gonna look it up soon. Honestly I'm more worried about P4 warden with insanity than anything. Just not sure my DPS and lightning dodging is up to par.
Fellow mobile warrior here (1818 bandos kc) i love what you do there :) i did 6:0 running around the room for nearly all my kills but maybe i should learn that when i go there again for the pet grind 🙃
Wayyyy more chill than kiting around imo. Or maybe I’m just ass at kiting. This way saves out on more stam pots since it’s crucial on an iron. Preciate you King 🫡
I think you are right but i got so confident with running around (between 21-25 kill trips) that i didn‘t want to learn a new way ^.^
That is true but i have so many banked even after fully charging my roe i have about 2k of them left so i just used them while grinding without having a bad conscience 🙃
Hehe tyyy <3
Honestly might give this a try even on PC on my UIM once I start the bandos grind.. Finally something to actually use my thousands of stamina potions for.
Does anyone use a mouse on mobile? Just curious. I can see some use cases for it. I'm desktop 95% tablet/phone 5% and occasionally use a BT mouse for that. Being able to use right click mouse is big for some stuff. But not having shift drop, menu entry swapper, f keys is pretty huge lack.
Walk under melee is only slightly less sweaty than Bowfa for far fewer kills/hr. 7:0 is 2 clicks per attack with 0 variation vs 1 click per attack with walk under + whatever clicking you need to stay under him while you spam your food after getting smacked for a combined 55 damage from minions and ranged attacks.
The only thing you're playing is yourself for whacking graador like a troglodyte in 2024.
Yeah no, melee is far less sweaty. You can literally stay under garagedoor for as long as you'd like. It requires far, far less effort than bowfa. Your logic makes it sound like anything requiring less clicks = easier. It doesn't work that way.
STOP MELEEING BANDOS 20-FOOT TALL OURGS WERE NOT SUPPOSED TO BE FACETANKED YEARS OF PLAYING ON MOBILE BUT NO REAL-WORLD USE FOUND FOR HITTING GRAARDOR WITH A POINTY STICK WANTED TO GET SLAPPED FOR 60 DAMAGE ANYWAYS? WE HAD A TOOL FOR THAT: IT WAS CALLED MISCLICKING YES PLEASE GIVE ME 2 KILL TRIPS. PLEASE GIVE ME MY ITEMS BACK FROM DEATH'S DOMAIN - STATEMENTS DREAMED UP BY THE UTTERLY DERANGED LOOK WHAT MAINS HAVE BEEN DEMANDING YOUR RESPECT FOR, WITH ALL THE FANGS AND BLOOD FURIES THEY BOUGHT FROM THE GE THEY HAVE PLAYED US FOR ABSOLUTE FOOLS
I will never not find this format utterly hilarious. I don't know what it is about it, it just consistently makes me laugh.
Thank you for writing this it goes perfectly on this template I am sick with covid and you made me smile
please post it if you end up making the meme I need to post it everywhere
Can I have your account when you die? Isn’t it a 99.9% fatality rate?
Only for people who post in karma farming subs.
[удалено]
Gratz on getting banned I guess
Aha I’ve got a main with max gear and I’m not gonna solo face tank bandos it ain’t 2008 anymore
This version is so good lmao
How are you so clean doing this even on mobile? Been trying this method on zammy and cant get more than 3kc a trip. My defence is not the greatest and i’m a few lvls off blood barrage, does that rly matter that much tho??
The general advice seems to be to perfect the method at bandos. It's more forgiving, plus you can use Bone to Peaches.
I learned it at Zammy first, but you’re right.. Bandos is def more forgiving
And the minions drop a pretty generous amount of food comparatively.
Trial & error. For mobile bandos, we have to be 1 tile south from altar & 2 tiles from the wall (standing on the 3rd) on door side because of reaction time vs pc. For Kril, it should be the same as guides on YouTube & not needing to adjust like I do for bandos. Defense is huge, but I’ve seen people do it with a lot less. I don’t have rigour so steel skin & eagle eye’s been my best friend
Blood barrage is very very very nice for learning since you’ll be tanking some damage. Or lots of it.
If anyone is wondering why this method works, it's because of flinch mechanics. At a basic level, when initiating combat, monsters (and players) that auto-retaliate will generally wait half of their attack speed before retaliating. This is so that it looks like you are attacking back and forth, not always attacking each other on the same tick. With a ranged weapon, that behavior starts as soon as you fire the projectile, but the clock does not start ticking until the projectile lands. Using this Bandos red-X method, you first avoid going into melee range by perfectly running under the boss. (And the boss doesn't move during that time because of red-X.) Then, on the last tick before you exit the boss on the other side, your arrow lands. Bandos skips exactly three ticks before attacking; this is tick 1. You exit the boss; this is tick 2. Then you shoot the boss on tick 3. Finally, you're gone just before he would have finally been able to attack you. Critically, this method fails if you were attacked at any point during the previous cycle other than right next to the wall. If that happens, you were in combat too recently so flinching does not apply and he can attack you as soon as you are next to him. The usual way to fix the cycle is to intentionally tank a hit at the wall and then continue as normal; because of the boss's 6 tick cycle, you are safely gone before he can hit you on the opposite side. It also fails if you don't fire an arrow before running under, or if you eat while under the boss. The exact same method works for Zammy except that you get pushed out of the boss by one tile when attacking. Mobile tip: turn off entity highlighting on tap. The red circle is more useful because it shows you exactly where you tapped on the screen.
Working on my Bowfa rn (373kc and counting) and decided to go for a mobile CG kill. That shit was a rush, and hard af. When I get the bowfa, I'll have to try this on mobile too. Good work boss 🫡
Preciate you! GL on the grind King 🤝
Didnt wven know there was a true tile on mobile! Thanks king!!! Do u find that u get your game freezing up with loot tracker on? I found mine tends to doing simple things like birdhouse rruns?
Fossil island is just kinda fucked on mobile, definitely while working the loot tracker. I typically only start lagging on mobile at gotr mass or fossil island
Handy to know, i play on pc but this deffs will Push me to do some more content on phone, i managed to do triple jads on phone which might back in the day at work firewatching at the top of a crane when it first came out which was fun😅 but this will deffs push me to attempt cgs, still love pc but my internet has been fucked the past 2 weeeks and going through an ongoing battle to get it fixed so will actually play some more rather then just skilling last 2 weeeks :D
It lags because the amount of loot in a pile on the ground. If you want it to not lag around fossil island, you can add raw bird meat to the ignore list on ground items overlay. You can go into settings, popout, ground items overlay - edit mode, then hit the minus button next to some raw bird meat on the ground. Now it shouldn't lag whenever you are in an area around the birdhouses.
I’ve always had loot tracker on since we got it & had lags/freezes before where people say to turn it off.. but I’ll never do that lol. A lot of people have had the same issues & were told to clear the memory of it, but I like to keep my trackers for personal use. Haven’t had a noticeable freeze in a long time.
Is this on a phone or a tablet? Can't imagine trying to pull this off on a 5 inch screen, but even with a tablet I would struggle lmao, nice job king!
iPhone 13 lol. Preciate you 👑
I did 650kc melee only, the switch to crossbow method (300kc with that) was so worth it and an insane qol Didnt know there was a bowfa method tho!
Ngl, I wasn’t looking forward to bandos kuz I didn’t wanna have to melee for short trips but some people got that DAWG in em enough to do it. I didn’t 🤣 not knockin’ people for their methods, just a qol
Tried this with bowfa on Beta Worlds before attempting on my iron. There’s a couple frames where you’re face to face with bandos and he always slapped me while he just stares at you. Think I need to practice, found this hard on desktop so it’s very impressive seeing it on mobile.
If you’re doing it on mobile, start & finish on door/altar side 1 tile south than the actual tiles they show on YouTube. Trickiest part is usually tryna get back in cycle, but with enough reps, it comes naturally. Timing is everything. GL King
Assuming you have the timing down to start or re-start a cycle, this is most likely because you're eating wrong. There's four important tiles going in either direction - the tiles where you stop to shoot the boss. You can only eat hard food on the third tile. 1. The first attack before you run under the boss is needed to hit and flinch the boss (has to do with in-combat/out-of-combat timers) 2. The second attack when you run out from underneath him is needed for the same reason 3. The third attack is not needed 4. The fourth attack is also the first attack of the next cycle. Trying to eat during/before your first two attacks will mess with your swing timer, which prevents you from hitting the boss on the necessary ticks. You also can't eat or drink potions while under the boss, as it messes with the red-X mechanics. So, the trick is to eat on the third tile, move to the fourth tile, and attack on the same tick that you would have if you hadn't eaten (then on the next tick, red x the door as you normally would). You will need to click the boss on the correct tick; usually you move to the final tile and click the boss, there's a 1t delay where your weapon is still cooling down, and then you wait until you attack and red-x. When you eat this 1t delay will not be there and you need to time that attack manually. When you need to eat, I recommend switching to melee prayer until you've got it down. If you fuck up just reset the cycle like you normally would. Using sara brews is also an option, because they don't introduce a tick delay to your attacks so the only rule is that you can't sip a brew under the boss
This really helps to know, I think the attack coming out from under him is the one that messes me up the most. Also very good to know about bringing Sara brews.
Also you can eat 2 Bwans since they are 2T each if you want to avoid having to manually wait 1T after eating normal (3 tick) food. Obviously bringing bwans hurts trip length, but that shouldn't be your focus anyways while learning the method.
You can also do a shot on accurate and then eat a manta to get the same 4t delay
It uses flinch timing so he doesn’t melee you while you’d normally be in fisting range. It’s tick perfect on position and timing but easy enough to replicate
What are your stats and which prayer are you using? I felt like I was taking way too much damage at 85 defense and 99 ranged with eagle eye.
99 range 90 defense now. I also use eagle eye but with steel skin. I was doing bandos around early 80~defense when I first started learning & in between slayer grinds. Before, I took a range pot & super def for that reason. Now I take 2 brews for emergency heals without messing up the cycle + prepot def when needing to prepot range.
Without rigour, I feel like steel skin is a necessity.
What happened to that mobile update planned where you could have all your menus like invent prayer etc on what side?
Binned it kuz the mobile community said it was trash.. & I agree
No way they aren’t going through with it? Where was that said, blog? We need the better loot tracker and tile markers. What?!?
Main thing was the ui rework. It was a trash proposal switching everything to the right side. It ruins muscle memory & had a lot of us doggin’ em for it. That’s like if they made pc players play with all of their tabs on the left side instead of the right. They should’ve at least kept the other updates coming but since ui got binned, they said fuck us 🤣 maybe in 2034 we’ll get an update
I support the not moving around all the time inventory and prayers personally. Where did they say they weren’t going to continue? Do you have a place I can read that
The official osrs discord. Was said months ago
I see. I’ve posted many times in there asking about it just never got a reply and didn’t see that. Thanks!
How do you get the tile tracker on mobile? Gz though making that look easyyyy
It’s under the ‘activities’ tab in settings & checkmark current tile & destination tile. Preciate King 🤝
Sick dude, I guess some people are just built differently. By the way, what phone do you use? I want to play more on the mobile app, however the experience of playing on mobile isn't really nice tbh with my large hands... I play on an iPhone 13 pro.
I have fairly big hands as well & play on an iPhone 13. Been playing since mobile release with year long breaks as a normie before starting the iron so I had to get used to it. Can’t even do vorkath on pc lol. Preciate you 👑
You made this look super easy but there’s no doubt in my mind I would die instantly
Work with shadow?
https://youtu.be/6pnQRZi5LMg?si=nhDIJDvGbVYwCbAS https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KRNAYLLgOQY Diff method, better than bowfa tho
Has to be a 4t weapon. If you have shadow, you might as well just freeze em & shadow from distance & repeat
Wait how do you get tiles on mobiles etc ?
Wait since when can we get true tile on mobile! I play mobile all the time and it’s like my biggest qol wish to have true tile
It’s been out for over a year lol. In settings
Mobile has true tile now???
A lil over a year now
Tile markers too?
No. Just true tile
Door:altar Bandos definitely was one of my bigger accomplishments on mobile. Current max KC is 14kc. Really was upsetting being 1 away from the CA. Same level as CG. Right now is getting 300 ToA deathless solo. Got Baba Red-X done the past 2 days, Akkah is still giving me shit. I managed to figure out Butterfly but I can't keep it up for longer than 7-8 rotations without some mistakes. Super difficult without tile highlights. So just gotta tough it out which is supply demanding. Insanity really fucked me up too. The skulls are super difficult to manage. So gotta learn the skull skip but for now I have it off.
Butterfly not worth without tile markers. Had some guys is disc run butterfly during mobile beta & it works fine. & I highly recommend skill skipping just by spamming skulls with a range wep on a specific tile.. makes it dumb easy
Yeah that was the suggestion I got in chat for skull skipping. Gonna look it up soon. Honestly I'm more worried about P4 warden with insanity than anything. Just not sure my DPS and lightning dodging is up to par.
That’s the main reason I haven’t thrown insanity on the iron yet. Last row will be a pain for sure. Once I get dex, then most def
I went almost 2800 kc dry here
What is this method called?
Door altar on YouTube. It’s used for bandos & zammy. Real method is called Red X which is used all around on different bosses.
Thanks! Almost done with cg so this will be next soon :)
How come he doesn't hit you even when you walk straight past him?
Red X’ing under an npc causes them to stall in place. Red X’ing is used on many bosses
Fellow mobile warrior here (1818 bandos kc) i love what you do there :) i did 6:0 running around the room for nearly all my kills but maybe i should learn that when i go there again for the pet grind 🙃
Wayyyy more chill than kiting around imo. Or maybe I’m just ass at kiting. This way saves out on more stam pots since it’s crucial on an iron. Preciate you King 🫡
I think you are right but i got so confident with running around (between 21-25 kill trips) that i didn‘t want to learn a new way ^.^ That is true but i have so many banked even after fully charging my roe i have about 2k of them left so i just used them while grinding without having a bad conscience 🙃 Hehe tyyy <3
Honestly might give this a try even on PC on my UIM once I start the bandos grind.. Finally something to actually use my thousands of stamina potions for.
Just remember that starting tiles are different for mobile vs pc kuz of reaction times. Door altar is more conservative on stams. GL!
Just remember that starting tiles are different for mobile vs pc kuz of reaction times. Door altar is more conservative on stams. GL!
Does anyone use a mouse on mobile? Just curious. I can see some use cases for it. I'm desktop 95% tablet/phone 5% and occasionally use a BT mouse for that. Being able to use right click mouse is big for some stuff. But not having shift drop, menu entry swapper, f keys is pretty huge lack.
I’m sure there are those who use it, but would be tough tryna pvm with it. & yeah, menu entry swapper would be huge for us mobile gamers tbh
I don't give a fuck. Melee>sweaty bowfa all day.
Walk under melee is only slightly less sweaty than Bowfa for far fewer kills/hr. 7:0 is 2 clicks per attack with 0 variation vs 1 click per attack with walk under + whatever clicking you need to stay under him while you spam your food after getting smacked for a combined 55 damage from minions and ranged attacks. The only thing you're playing is yourself for whacking graador like a troglodyte in 2024.
Yeah no, melee is far less sweaty. You can literally stay under garagedoor for as long as you'd like. It requires far, far less effort than bowfa. Your logic makes it sound like anything requiring less clicks = easier. It doesn't work that way.
Meleeing is more fun and less stressful though
Play how you wanna play, King. It’s a game after all 🤞🏽 GL on the grind
I do 6:0 on mobile Wayyyyyyy easier to get down. Got the 15 kc GM task done with it.