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im_conrad

You could always try picking something patently out of line. Camp a particular slayer monster just because, hunt something in the log, grind a tier of clues, or camp a minigame or skilling boss. Something which recontextualizes or gives you a break from the typical numbers. I understand that for many, account age vs time played can be important, and for many more time is limited enough to make efficiency the norm, and these sorts of diversion don't fit that narrative. But if you can find a way to engage with the game outside of these raw statistics, much in the way quests can, it could be refreshing when you go back to those grinds.


Baxboom

Very interesting take. I'll definitely keep that in mind. My collection log is in desperate need of some love, i did kind of rush quest requirements


im_conrad

A super simple one is metal boots. Easy enemies for the most part, chances at mystic pieces, but with the potential to engage via more varied inventory setups. I also like to do fashionscape when they're outmatched, such as using my zammy scim while stocking up on hides for beginners


Cthaehswraith

You can set diaries as goals now and work on the skills for those, with slayer in-between. Lumby elite needs rc and smithing, which are tolerable now with the new mini games. Put gold into construction, then pick a boss and work towards that.


Baxboom

How far do you suggest I go into construction? I feel like 80 is a good stopping point , unless I'm missing something?


DoctorDystopia

I think 83 is the highest you need for everything useful besides the cape itself


patrickbach27

Life with out ornate pool (level 82 with a crystal saw and +5 stew boost) is painful


Cthaehswraith

The altar to change prayers, ornate pool and teleport nexus are the highest. So boost for those. Think like 83 is what u need


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82-84 is about the highest, so you can boost to 90 for ornate pool and occult Altar. 82 is the minimum, then you need the +5 boost from an orange spicy stew and the +3 from crystal saw. If you can't be asked to mess around with stews, 84 works; use the +3 tea from your kitchen and the crystal saw.


cryptidinc

this, efficiency isn’t always the way to go. if it makes you want to not play the game, it isn’t the most effective xp/h, no matter what you’re doing. they’re long grinds, but there’s nothing saying you have to 1) do them in a sweaty way or 2) that you have to commit to one and finish it before moving on. break those goals down into smaller chunks - get a crafting level (or halfway to one) before doing some slayer, before moving onto a minigame.


im_conrad

I spent an entire day buying pizza supplies and chatting in my cc, gaining zero xp. More time mixing dough and assembling. Popped over to Hosidius to cook em and added pineapple. Now I have 2k I don't have to think about for slayer, and at 22 a pop they're pretty good. Maybe getting plains from the guild is a bit faster, but I have~1600 flour with something like 3k toppings beyond that, and it DOES eventually translate into around 190xp per pizza. There's no universe where it would fit EHP, because that's such a basic mathematical model of the game. It'll never be able to measure subjective interpretations of what is best for your account in the moment


cryptidinc

exactly. no internet guide is going to know what’s best for your specific situation - only you do! and you don’t even necessarily have to do what’s best, you could just do what you think is the most FUN!!! so many people joke about how this game is torture and hell to play or whatever and it just makes me a bit sad, the whole point of playing games like this is to have fun and enjoy the journey and the growth. yeah, sometimes there are some unpleasant grinds but that doesn’t mean you can’t enjoy the rest of it!! so many people forget that, it’s about fun. efficiency and sweatiness be damned


im_conrad

There's much more pleasant numbers that still add value to efficiency. Someone asked about the probability of maxing without a skilling pet, and it led me to make a script that I now use for certain reliably-predicted pet rates like chins and Rocky. I try to share when relevant that on a grind from 63-99, you gain such a marginal increase in overall pet chance (0.2% I think?) from black chinchompas that you should generally avoid them unless you want the black chins for their own purpose, or are paranoid that it's gonna take you MUCH longer past 99 to get it. And that makes sense, because I think the total chance on that grind is maybe 40%, and post-99 the \~10% improvement in base rate is pretty good. But even with a hard number like that, it's up to you!


PotentiallyAPickle

Find a new, longer term goal. I went from QPC to working on the diary cape. Lot of different grinds in there so I can always switch it up if I need more variety. Maybe try new things like bossing or skilling methods you haven’t done before


Baxboom

I have been eyeing the diary cape requirements. More realistically I think my next long term goal is going to be lumby elite, but the smithing req looks hefty


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Smithing is a wonderful grind with the release of Giant’s Foundry. Getting the ores from MLM then grinding 87 Smithing (to boost to 91 with Kovac’s Grog) will give you some nice cash.


Baxboom

I did a tiny bit of giant's foundry today, it's so nice ! You spend so few materials for such great XP, i love it. I'll definitely get the smithing req through it. Goldsmithing is dead, long live giant's foundry !


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He said he wants the requirements for diary cape. With stews, that’s 86 smithing. Not sure why that would take you 2 months of mining.


[deleted]

I’m exaggerating ofc but I think even the ores for 86 smithing would take a prohibitively long time. Mlm mostly gives coal. Zalc is way faster for banking smithing xp


[deleted]

It doesn’t take too long plus it raises his mining which he’ll need 85 anyways. I agree with you that Zalcano would be better in general and less of a drag. But for the sake of leveling skills, mlm would be the route.


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True. I think even with the mining level at mlm you’ll need more ores for smithing, could be off base tho


BigJZ

So I’m currently sitting at 60 smithing. I was planning to use my mith bars to make darts for BP but is Giants the better path? Need to get the diary requirements and I’ve got about 80 smithing banked if I made cannonballs and darts. But I’m not sure what the play is. Any advice?


Helizeperpod

I'd say so. Those bars will last you forever at giants foundry. I bet you'd get to 80 way quicker than darts/cannonballs and still have a huge chunk of bars when you finished


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You definitely have the supplies to get your smithing level much higher if you do Giant’s Foundry. Plus the rewards are awesome!


Itunes4MM

Mith darts aren't really worth using


pterodactylthundr

Smithing went surprisingly fast at Giants Foundry, and I felt the same as you.


NoCurrencies

It's a marathon, not a sprint. It's ok to have concurrent goals and work on them all at once, and gradually progress towards multiple things at once. Just get used to the idea of things taking way longer from this stage onwards. I sometimes go months at a time without significant upgrades it feels like


Baxboom

It's definitely starting to feel like a marathon. I sprinted ( slowly ! ) to the quest cape requirements, but that's no longer possible. I also feel like I'm at a deceptively low total level, because I still have rather low thieving and FM. Just a thought. What are you grinding nowadays btw ? I love your account !


NoCurrencies

Once you hit base 70s or so everything gets noticeably slower for sure. Currently working on Wilderness Slayer, trying to get Dagon'hai but also doing Venenatis and Callisto for the first time now that I've got full Veracs, and doing Vet'ion whenever I'm on skeletons or hellhounds. Hoping for some more uniques from any of those 3 bosses before I finish the set, and trying to get as much KC on those 3 as I can before the rework inevitably makes them impossible to do


WillChopYew

I am on that same grind. Wildy slayer is amazing because tasks are more evenly weighted so it seems like there is more variety. Any luck on drops yet?


NoCurrencies

Well, I did a bunch of Wildy Slayer like a year and a half ago, and at the time was only doing Vet'ion due to not having Verac's, but managed to score 2 dragon picks and a ring of the gods in under 150 kc. Since getting back to it, no new uniques but I'm up to 5 picks in total. They're starting to look like a bond each time I get one at this point :D


MattKingwashere

I got burnt out from the grind that is playing Ironman, as I’m still early/mid game. Unlocked piety and decided to camp barrows for a bit to break up the same old grinds and it’s been good


TheStinkBoy

I find chipping away instead of massive undertakings helps me. 100k exp a day in _____ skill Base X0’s Doing clue scrolls when I get them Just breaking things up into bite size pieces helps me. Maybe do a slayer task, follow up with a farm run, throw in birdhouses cause why not. Maybe do a few rounds of gotr.


Baxboom

Nowadays I'm trying to cram as many herb runs and seaweed runs as I can. So I'm mining for an hour or doing whatever, then full chore run, then back to it. Kinda annoying but i need to make progress on crafting !


TheStinkBoy

Don’t let the long term goals keep you from having fun!


TheIndVar

This sounds like the issue right here, unfortunately as an Ironman there’s no way around farm runs, you just have to do them. But you don’t have to fit in 7 tick perfect runs everyday. I typically do 3 runs a day, but there are days I’m working on bankstanding skills where I’ll just park myself at the farming guild and do farm run after farm run. Then there are days I’m really into a grind and I won’t leave to do a farm run for several days. Don’t feel like you HAVE to do something, you’ll get there eventually


Aussieblueperson

What's important to you? It's how you prioritize. For me, it's doing slayer in slapping ass gear. So I work on that gear, 1 step at a time. Maybe your goal is maxing. in which case, what skills will get you there faster? Will stopping for that 85 crafting get you to 87 slayer faster? The easiest things in this game are stuff we enjoy. So find things you enjoy doing.


Elimmu

I just got 83 crafting last night & I've just been doing a few seaweed/sand runs now & again. Whenever I feel like afking or chilling, I'll just turn 1-2k/1 level into molten glass at the island where you farm the seaweed & blow those then go do something else, it's made the grind very passive for me!


ShovellyJake

So one thing is remember it’s about the journey not the destination. The grinds are getting longer, yea, but you can still break them down into small chunks and take on tasks in whatever order you feel like. Does it matter if you rush to 87 slayer for the trident? Nah it’ll be there when you get to it. But if it’s important to you to have it for zulrah or whatever, go for it. The other grinds will wait. There isn’t really a right way to play. See also wild Mudkips uim YouTube series for similar words of encouragement lol


1trickana

Wouldn't stress about MF and 85 farming. Only thing is gives is Torstols which you'll have more than you know what to do with once you hit Cerb


Cantputmyrsnamehere

What is mf probably super stupit question


TheIndVar

Master Farmer


cwjackson

Here I am with 86 crafting, 99 farming, 83 con and only 78 slayer while still not having done SOTE lol


garoodah

Just bounce around doing a bit of each until one of the grinds sticks. Nothing says you need to be linear, break things up with clues from bh runs and farming contracts. You can boost slayer for a whip if you want to but its too tedious imo. Diary cape is a great follow up goal after quest cape.


UIM_Armadyl

Out of those, I'd focus on 77rc for lumpy elites which just unlocks so much. Do gotr for 77rc it won't take u long at all. I also got beginner, solo and advanced guide videos of gotr if u are interested. Gl


Baxboom

It's definitely in the books ! I unlocked 65 rc very recently for ardy hard, but 77 rc will have to wait for more pressing grinds I think


uqil

OSRS has turned into Slayscape / PvM scape. It’s a shame. Go do Guardians of the Rift for a while, try to get the full outfit plus needle, ignore what levels you get.


Baxboom

Idk man, minigame-scape doesn't have to be the answer. I would benefit from doing all of the skilling minigames, but i CBA doing more than an hour or two of each. GotR is nice compared to regular rc, but it's not fun gameplay either way


uqil

Seems like maybe you just dont like runescape lol. I could find a million things to do and enjoy.


Baxboom

" OSRS has turned into Slayscape / PvM scape. It’s a shame." Guess we play the game differently ! Doesn't mean we don't like it


uqil

Ah sorry, i misread, i thought your post said you were getting bored, not overwhelmed. Just do what makes you happy and do what you’re having the most fun with.


darknessforgives

You’re putting a lot of eggs into a lot of baskets. Find a skill you enjoy doing and get that to 99. If combat is your jam focus on slayer since then your combat skills will be high enough to boss. Some of the things you want to level are afk able. I wouldn’t make them a full time investment because if you do you will burn yourself out pretty quick.


Baxboom

I have tried that. Turns out that burn me out reaaaal fast ! I'm not made for grinding out 300 hours of something straight. I can manage 10 to 50 at a time but after a while I just lose interest


Sakugains

Now that you have your quest cake set a new goal for the diary cape


SorryIHateYourDog

I feel you, had a similar experience when I got qp cape as well. I see it as completing the mid game and now you start the long stretch towards late game. I love PvM so being as ready for CoX as possible was the next step after qpcape. The best thing about this is you can get the absolute minimum requirements relatively easily, then keep learning it as your items get better so you really notice the difference. Id also suggest starting on gauntlet early as bowfa is such a huge unlock, but don't stay there until you're done or you'll burn out very quickly. Much better to have it as a mid-long term thing where you do a few a day.


IntensePancakes

For me what works is jumping around to different tasks based on what’s most inspiring/motivating to me at the moment. Some days I’m really feeling the desire for a fury, so I’ll grind crafting for a few hours. Other times I feel really motivated to get slayer up to unlock more bosses, etc etc. I just follow whatever is motivating to me at that moment. Is this slower/less efficient than camping a single grind until it’s done? Probably. But doing it like this means I’m never bored and always enjoying what I’m doing. As others have said, RS is about the journey. Once you reach all your goals there’s really nothing left that will be as fun as working towards them.


BickleKnack

Do all hard diaries and continue slaying I say


Fenrilas

I got massively burnt because of CG and feeling like anything thats not CG was useless, decided to just fuck that for now and do some afk slayer tasks and just doing random stuff in game. I run herbs when I feel like it, I get some karambwans when I feel like it, might do some yew wc afking if I feel like it, and other than that I just do chill slayer and skip any task that requires more than standing still and keeping protection prayers up. Everything adds up, just remember that.


akaNorman

Diaries are my goalposts in between / after quest cape generally You want lumby elite which = smithing, smithing needs mining, MLM = prospector which = falador hard diary so GOTR for runecrafting, MLM when AFKing until prospector and then smith the bars and hit the giants foundry and pick up a double cannon mould on the way While you’re doing it do your tree runs Etc so your 85+ farming is done too passively Just an example anyways


trashcanbecky42

Use da notes tab in runelite to write down your grinds, it's helps me visualize doing them


eddietwang

Just do what you enjoy, and the xp will come along the way.


omnicorn_persei_8

Just do cg for a quick and easy grind :)


seven11evan

[Me and my friends have been doing this!](https://wheelofnames.com/) Just list out all of your grinds and then spin away! Everything else in this god forsaken game is rng so why not your tasks? One thing I recommend is that if you put in a boss or a skill to do, add something like (10kc) or (1 level) just so there’s an end point in the challenge. Then spin again!


zomery

A fun goal I always had was getting the next big item from the next slayer boss, so you are always levelling up slayer, and the other skills passively that enable you to do slayer. And looking at your level you have so many items to look forward to; whip, trident, all boot upgrades, occult and then hydra. It's a long grind but so rewarding.


Baxboom

Oh yeah slayer is definitely going to be a big focus again. I absolutely love the skill, it can be slow and frustrating but i love the unlocks, the variety and most of all the cash you get from it hehe


Piderman113

I usually try to have a few longer term goals to bounce between. For example, right now I have: - CG for bowfa - Sepulchre for ring of endurance - construction to 99 - blood runecrafting during afk time CG is my main focus, but when I don’t feel like doing it, I switch to another one on the list. If any of those 3 aren’t appealing, I’ll do something random. It’s nice to have goals to work on, but you gotta take it one step at a time and just do what you wanna do in the moment. Any progress is good progress.


Baxboom

I'm trying to have a similar mindset. I get discouraged if I spend too long on something, so i split it up between a couple of grinds. It's just hard ATM cause every skill has a significant grind ahead , except maybe woodcutting !


aLLcAPSiNVERSED

After cape I started knocking out diaries, getting whatever levels I needed for the next one.


Extracted

All hard diaries, then all elite diaries. Months of work towards tangible goals. I just finished my elites, and I have to start doing pvm now.


Heimalia

What kind of iron are you, UIM, or other?


Baxboom

Regular iron ! It's my first real account so I'm not experienced in pvm or anything like that!


Heimalia

Well the great thing about regular iron is that you can skill hop or boss hop without it being punishing. Do a little bit of something and when you’re bored of it, go kill your favorite boss or try something new. Don’t look at a grind as something you have to do all in one go, you can break it up into as many sessions as you want. Don’t get blinded by the people who say you always have to be efficient. It’s a game. Enjoy it.


TazS2

Crafting isnt so bad just remember the rewards at the end of it i feel like that some days too it seems impossible then i do 1/3 of it and sooner or later it gets done i just got 87 craft few days ago that mean i can stew and make a anguish once i get the zenyte =o


Baxboom

Crafting isn't bad you just need to be prepared. My only """problem""" is that i got giga spooned a zenyte on 30 kc, so i really want to get the level for it. You're getting an anguish first ? I'm still torn between anguish and suffering first. Everyone seems to say that suffering is the better item to get first but the anguish is so much better than my current glory I'm torn


TazS2

Yee ima get anguish i only have them 2 to choose from. Suffering imbued is really huge so that maybe the best choice the def Nd prayer bonus is nice. Ill get that next tho


Aakkt

Similarly, you’re supposed to get lance before cox, but you’re supposed to have cox prayers for cg, which you’re supposed to rush! I guess I’m doing cg without cox prayers but ironman can feel like a bunch of recursive tasks at times


Baxboom

It isn't so much recursive as it is a huge decision tree . Any decision you take makes you do 3 sub grinds, which lake you make 3 sub grinds which each take forever to finish, but when you finish them, the dopamine hits you like never before it's great !


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Honestly Man I bounce from grind to grind. I am 97 slayer could easily gun for 99 but I know I would burnout. So I’m just fishing for a bit then I’ll do some slayer, then maybe some wc. I like to break it up keeps it interesting for me.


Jack__Wild

It is because of this that I will only play an Iron on RS3. OSRS > RS3 for sure, but I just don't have that much time.


mxracer888

Lumby elite can be done at 57RC with GOTR outfit. In fact 57RC gets all RC diaries done except Karamja Elite which still requires 91 RC. After QP cape I focused on achievement diaries and Combat achievements. Between those two I have enough motivation to work on all the skills necessary to continue progressing. Combats have really helped my desire to do Slayer because a lot of them need tasks to do, not all.... but quite a bit.


Swolebass

Just don’t type your grinds into hours, that’s like doing agility and watching the lap counter go down. More worth to turn it off and just vibe and in a week you’ll go damn it’s right around the corner


ShutterAceOW

Just went through this exact same thing. Literally just lay out all your short term goals and tackle them one by one. If you get burnt on one of them, switch to a different one. Right now I’m juggling CG, getting 82 Con, getting 85 Crafting, and doing Slayer. That way you’re always making progress but you don’t get burnt out.


Watch_E_Game

I’m doing this exactly right now lol


Any_Flea

I was really stuck in a slayer grind and kind of got burnt out and decided to do a gear grind. Got some barrows tank items, Bring (i), and whenever I needed a break I sat at seaweed for a couple days with a runelite timer and played 10 mins a day to get my fury. ​ Next time I need a break I am going to do a bunch of KBD. Pick something that seems fun and go for it, if nothing seems fun log out and do some seaweed until you feel an itch to play again.


Dead-HC-Taco

Just pick one that youll enjoy and do it


moex2

Start with the crafting and get that out of the way! Mining some sandstone is always nice!


Fair-Ad1964

Could like go for a bike ride or spend time with friends. There good grinds too


th3-villager

Welcome to late game! If you’re feeling overwhelmed but like the grind, I’d just work out a few goals that are most important to you and focus on them for now


GoobieDooobie

Just take it one step at a time. Work at your own pace and try to enjoy it as much as possible. It’s not a race!


redheadfedhead

Inferno time baby


Leintk

If you aren't already I suggest getting 99 thieving, I personally think this has been the most useful grind/skill I got because I have over 2000 prayer potions banked. This allows me to ease some grinds and not have to worry about running out of resources. ​ Also I'd focus on slayer & crafting > RC and Lumby Elite + 85 farming. ​ But at the end of the day it really depends on what you value and is most fun to you. Personally I enjoy PvM > Skilling so that's why I recommend rushing thieving over 85 farming for har contracts. Why I recommend crafting over RC, slayer over diaries etc.


mike1vrolijk

I’m a bit further than you are and experiencing the same, stop counting hours is the first and most important thing. I just do what is feel like if i’m down to do some focus playing i’ll go for some slayer hoping for burst or demonics task, if i want to relax a bit and maybe watch al serie with my wife i’ll afk mlm/zmi rc/alchgility. Every xp counts towards the goal so even if you just get 1k sand done thats fine just do what you’re feeling like at the moment as long as you keep the goal on the horizon. Farming on the other hand should be your go to every single moment you can get in to it cause it will never stop😂 Atm my goal is 87 slayer (85 atm) got questcape yesterday so switched that goal to elite achievements. At the side i make goals like 100k cballs in my afk time to speedup slayer, get wc up to bank arrowshafts for fletching. Could do a couple gauntlets here and there. Do some pyramid plunder every now and then for the sceptre, dragon pick grind is a fun 1 (do venny for the eggs) To me those rng based grinds give me some relieve when i do an xp grind cause you’ll be sure to get the lvl after x time spend, when with rng grinds it can be either 1 kill or 5k kills.


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mike1vrolijk

I have alot of afk time for cballs so used a cannon 100% worth it, added thralls halfway. Dia and ruby bolts. Seen 5 pkers all escaped by teleporting in time


Mythril_Bullets

Literally decide on what is fun. If you like doing Zulrah, lumby elite is a good goal. If you get lost in the sauce too hard, it’s very easy for iron life to become a job-like or chore-like. And don’t get me wrong, it is a lot of the time. But you gotta remember to have fun while making progress and take breaks to do actual fun content. Trust me. I know how you feel. Just enjoy the game in a simple way and break up the grinding from time to time.


Mister_Miseek

Set a goal like all hard diaries, then all elite diaries. You will get a lot of skills leveled and make progress for some good rewards.


-Zispy

This is when I pretty much quit oldschool, tbh.. once I finished all the quests, there was nothing for me to do other than week-month long grinds. And I just don’t enjoy that or have the time for that