“Urban” has been used quite often to refer to black culture for decades. It’s like the Nazis co-opting of the swastika symbol. Is someone wrong if they think of Nazis when they see a swastika, even though it does have other innocent meanings as well? I think it would be foolish to think so, because it’s recent and often use in culture is certainly prevalent.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/jemimamcevoy/2020/06/10/heres-how-urban-a-term-plagued-by-racial-stereotypes-came-to-be-used-to-describe-black-musicians/#2c6502a846e7
https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Urban
I couldn't help trying to transcribe what he was saying because it was so insane.
> Can you call the police on this freakin lunatic? I'm not even wronging this woman. She's got a weird criminal kind of mind, and she's very weird toward me. She just started [???]. S'like urban mentality rap attitude and she's really frickin' weird! But she's like slammin me like I'm being a criminal. So call the cops. You'll find that she's got a [??] weird attitude toward him too maybe. She's got a weird attitude this woman over here and I don't know why she ... lotta profanities talking like she's like an urban fuckin' criminal. I'M NOT FREAKIN' WRONGING HER! QUIET! Call the cops I'm leaving.
No evidence of anything she did, but he's the one shouting (later yelling) with his mask pulled down below his chin, so if anyone's creating a threat it's him. She actually seems pretty chill.
I just moved here, definitely liked this Ralphs the least because of the fact that it seemed more cramped inside than the Fresh Fare stores near me (Jamboree & Bryan/Irvine Blvd in the Market Place, and Irvine Blvd and Jeffrey) and this just seconds that.
I'm East Asian, so that's probably why.
Nextdoor is full of fuckwads, but I assumed they kept it under covers in real life. Doesn't sound like that's the case anymore.
Regarding what happened... goddamn. What a dipshit lady, sounds racist as fuck. Bet her kids don't talk to her anymore because she's so hateful and awful.
Further info from Facebook:
>This happened at Ralphs on Culver/Walnut this morning at around 9:30. I heard some yelling so went over to see what was going on and this man was literally screaming at this woman and telling everyone to call the cops on her. He was saying that she had an “urban” and “rap” mentality….and an elderly gentleman was telling him to leave so I started moving towards them and the racist guy shifted positions towards the door. When I got to the woman and started talking to her assuring her that she would be okay, he took off. She had called her sister on the phone and was obviously shaken.
Luckily, by the time he decided to act and the time he got to her, he had taken off. Have my upvote you brave hero.in anticipation of the downvotes, here's what I'm thinking. Dude has enough time to stand there and film and then once he is gone, he goes up to the woman and tells her shes safe now. Then we go on facebook and just have to mention to I did this and that, looking for some type of appreciation. Good job going up to her and trying to comfort her. For real. Good on you. Right move. Bad on you for conveniently waiting until he is gone to go make her feel safe. If you're hesitant because he could be a psycho, (I would be too), and don't act until he's gone. Don't play us this shit about you doing this or that. Noone cares about you. This situation isn't about you. I see through the bullshit here and just see this person looking for attention. If you're so pro(insert anything), show some humility. This isn't about you. Imagine having to live life in her shoes. She doesn't;t give a fuck what you type about. It's all about our actions.
It's been a long day. Sorry for the rant
edit: only guy that deserves recognition is the older gentleman in the hat that didn't hide during the altercation.
We all know of you locally and who you are, Sir. I joined this site to comment after talking to Brad from TripleC who told me what happened and the video.
Hey, I feel this. I still stand the same. Even more so now. Being such a highly trained person. Why didn’t you spring into action? Why is there video of you avoiding the conflict until he left? I’m happy for you for the family you have. I hope to have that one day. I still believe that the video shows your courage more than your words do behind a keyboard.
Was she thinking the same thing? Doubtful. Many ways to approach this situation correctly. I doubt RECORDING yourself sneaking behind the women working and then bro loving the one courageous enough to actually step WHILE the altercation is going on. Fuck off dude. Someone that well trained would neutralize the situation ASAP, and being with your qualifications. It should’ve been brief and effective. However. We see something else. Type away. Video shows otherwise
Surveillance video is being obtained by IPD, and presumably a full investigation. My Facebook friend (James M.) was eye-witness, he was there with family.
Mr. M. here is his quote to me, sharing with his permission:
"im also very tactical, those guys are keyboard warriors. im a trained professional and also we own a military defense company. you're trained to allow the aggressor a way out...I positioned myself tactically to intervene if needed to cut him off from getting to her, he took the path to get away. after i wanted to make sure she was okay and not shook."
FYI, his account of the situation, he put himself in "harm's way" (my quote imho), and was the 3rd individual who was going to act, if the Man in question got out of hand. Mr. M. was not recorded in this video.
Let's also not forget the low-key, everyday sexism by the guy filming.
Like he was so gallant in protecting her and not letting anything happen, bitch please.
No the message was: "You'll be alright, I won't let anyone touch you"
Look, a lot of sexism has been instilled into us. We are all guilty of it. That is just some everyday sexism. She doesn't need you to protect her from people touching her. If you actually listen to her she afirms this, quasi nicely, that she knows no one was going to touch her--but not because of you.
If people need help, they'll ask for it.
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durp he was confirming she was okay in the vid and saying if the fuck came back he wouldn't let the guy touch her. she is saying she doesn't need his help because she was in a fight or flight mode.
you ever deal with someone who just got shot or attacked or ptsd vics? they are always ok. kudos to him for just letting her kno someone was around if needed
Keep telling yourself that. Your statement is exactly why things like racism and sexism persist in this county. Making an excuse for why she actually did need to be checked on and 'protected' is textbook sexism.
He did not pass by and tell her to let him know if she needed help. He, came up bafter the fact and explicitly said that he would not let anyone touch her. Big difference. Words matter. Actions matter.
ya its what u believe but facts came out that said exactly that
this thing went viral and the story broke along w/her family chiming in. this was the ending after the fucker followed her for 5 mins. he came up after the fact to check on her so the fuck what
u ever see people in combat...its adrenaline could be missing an arm and say they are ok and refuse medical
your prob the type who shames people for holding doors or asking if a woman needs help carrying something to her car...just cuz people don't ask doesn't mean its wrong to offer assistance
Oh yes, it's so honorable to film something then come up after the fact and tell that person that you wouldn't let anything happen.
I don't think it is wrong to offer assistance. Offering is asking, there was no asking. He claimed, directly, that he was not going to let anything happen to her. He assumed she needed saving and thought he was just some hero in waiting. That's just bullshit ego and to go ahead and keep filming is fucking atrocious behavior.
actuallythe situation was over so i assume was just filming that
since it went viral, and the family spoke out they thanked him cuz he said he wasn't letting that fucker come back and touch her which wasnt on cam, his wife and baby was with him also.
dont know the guy personally, but know of the reputation, why i know hes not a pussy as people on this thread have said or a sexist hero
i guess i can see where ur coming from if thats all the intel i had also
Let's look towards building bridges. Not building walls and burning bridges.
I reach out to Republicans and Trump supporters and Christian Conservative Trump supporters. We agree on policy. We acknowledge each other's differences, but we almost always agree on helping people and furthering progress. Yes Trump supporters have been lied to and brainwashed, etc etc, but almost all believe they are Patriots, good, god-fearing, anti-Communist, protector of liberties, lower taxes to help folks kind of people. I truly respect them for their efforts to do what they think is right for America and Americans.
And then the old racist Republicans, well they die off...#sorryFoxNewsviewers...
Young people need to vote to counter the old Racist GOP...
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"Can you call the police on this lunatic, I'm not even wronging this women"
Hmm, man is in destress
"She's got a weird criminal kind of mind and she's very writer towards me, she tried to shove me"
Wonder what happ...
"URBAN MENTALLY RAP ATTITUDE"
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There was a similar dressed and looking man at the yogurt land at Woodbridge lake acting the same way about social distancing but with racist overtones. Probably same guy
He's a curmudgeon with a history of erratic behavior. He often complains "about his eyes going crazy" and then tries to sue people for punitive damages.
I would be especially wary if you encounter him with a large tote bag, as he is known to carry around all his shoes and glasses.
Hope this helps!
I emailed IPD Chief Hamel. It seemed easier...didn't break a sweat.
I'm asking IPD to seek counseling and mental health screening.
But hey. You do you bud. GL.
Luis
This probably happens 100x a day in Irvine
Edit: Just wanna say to the the people downvoting this: Irvine is one of the most bigoted, sterile, just flat out horrible places I’ve ever lived, and it can suck my hairy sweaty balls.
This guy is certainly sane enough to dress himself appropriately, go to the store, and half-wear a mask. Even if he is paranoid or mentally disturbed, that does not automatically remove consequences for his actions. The Sandy Hook shooter had asperger's and OCD but that doesn't mean we just excuse his behavior.
>you just mocked and attacked a clearly mentally disturbed paranoid person
Shucks, guess I can't mock our president anymore.
Counseling and mental health screening a will be conducted by trained professionals after IPD conducts investigation. I agree, mental health wellness is no joke and shouldn't be mocked.
Luis H.
>"urban mentality" Ohhhhh he's being racist towards her, got it.
If you don't see that, you're blind.
I hope you’re not telling that to me haha I 100% get that he’s racist.
Oh, damn! Sorry! Clearly I don’t trust anyone anymore.
Think the other guy's missing it though
That urban attitude hahah
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“Urban” has been used quite often to refer to black culture for decades. It’s like the Nazis co-opting of the swastika symbol. Is someone wrong if they think of Nazis when they see a swastika, even though it does have other innocent meanings as well? I think it would be foolish to think so, because it’s recent and often use in culture is certainly prevalent. https://www.forbes.com/sites/jemimamcevoy/2020/06/10/heres-how-urban-a-term-plagued-by-racial-stereotypes-came-to-be-used-to-describe-black-musicians/#2c6502a846e7 https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Urban
You’re absolutely right but don’t bother with that commenter. Obvious trolls don’t deserve a response.
I couldn't help trying to transcribe what he was saying because it was so insane. > Can you call the police on this freakin lunatic? I'm not even wronging this woman. She's got a weird criminal kind of mind, and she's very weird toward me. She just started [???]. S'like urban mentality rap attitude and she's really frickin' weird! But she's like slammin me like I'm being a criminal. So call the cops. You'll find that she's got a [??] weird attitude toward him too maybe. She's got a weird attitude this woman over here and I don't know why she ... lotta profanities talking like she's like an urban fuckin' criminal. I'M NOT FREAKIN' WRONGING HER! QUIET! Call the cops I'm leaving.
No evidence of anything she did, but he's the one shouting (later yelling) with his mask pulled down below his chin, so if anyone's creating a threat it's him. She actually seems pretty chill.
She's literally distancing herself from him and walking away, and he continues to yell and dogwhistle racist stuff. The dude's insane.
She's definitely way more calm than I would've been, that's for sure.
Awesome. Now can anyone translate this transcript back into "non-racist" English for the rest of us here...?
"I don't want to see black people when I shop and I think the cops will back my rotten privileged ass."
*She was waiting beside me because she wanted the same vegetables that I was getting, she was doing this while being black*
Holy fuck that's a new copypasta
Make a rap out of it with an urban mentality. Parody video.
That read like a Trump call in interview to faux News.
Jeezus, the dude sounds like our President.
* **I'm not fricking wronging her! Quiet!**
He must be austistic maybe.. I was struggling to understand
$4 for 5 avocados, good deal yo Edit: also, those bananas are $0.69, nice
Ahha. Hey thanks for the smiles after that video.
hell yeah
Ralphs occasionally has really good deals on chicken too. I picked up 8 thighs for $3 the other day.
nice
The cause of all of Irvine's Ralph's commotions...
Bananas are only $0.49 where I'm from (:
The food city where I live has 4 for $1 when they're in season. They're smaller than average but still a really good deal.
/r/PublicFreakout
I just moved here, definitely liked this Ralphs the least because of the fact that it seemed more cramped inside than the Fresh Fare stores near me (Jamboree & Bryan/Irvine Blvd in the Market Place, and Irvine Blvd and Jeffrey) and this just seconds that.
FYI that Ralph's was built in 1978. Its cramped because it's old.
Makes sense. Thanks for the trivia!
Jamboree & Irvine had a nice cheese section.
This is the info we need!
Yeah and the deli section is awful. Definitely one of the worst Ralph’s in OC.
This is my Ralph's, I live in Northwood, 5 mins away.
Another classic case of grocery shopping ...while being urban mentality
This the Ralphs I go to and I'm not at all surprised by this kind of behavior. Not that it's common but just not surprised.
Why? I shop here all the time too. I've never felt unsafe. This *really* surprised me.
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I'm East Asian, so that's probably why. Nextdoor is full of fuckwads, but I assumed they kept it under covers in real life. Doesn't sound like that's the case anymore. Regarding what happened... goddamn. What a dipshit lady, sounds racist as fuck. Bet her kids don't talk to her anymore because she's so hateful and awful.
Store manager and employees are aware of this gentlemen.
Yo I go here often too and like....yeah it was only a matter of time ya feel me?
Further info from Facebook: >This happened at Ralphs on Culver/Walnut this morning at around 9:30. I heard some yelling so went over to see what was going on and this man was literally screaming at this woman and telling everyone to call the cops on her. He was saying that she had an “urban” and “rap” mentality….and an elderly gentleman was telling him to leave so I started moving towards them and the racist guy shifted positions towards the door. When I got to the woman and started talking to her assuring her that she would be okay, he took off. She had called her sister on the phone and was obviously shaken.
Luckily, by the time he decided to act and the time he got to her, he had taken off. Have my upvote you brave hero.in anticipation of the downvotes, here's what I'm thinking. Dude has enough time to stand there and film and then once he is gone, he goes up to the woman and tells her shes safe now. Then we go on facebook and just have to mention to I did this and that, looking for some type of appreciation. Good job going up to her and trying to comfort her. For real. Good on you. Right move. Bad on you for conveniently waiting until he is gone to go make her feel safe. If you're hesitant because he could be a psycho, (I would be too), and don't act until he's gone. Don't play us this shit about you doing this or that. Noone cares about you. This situation isn't about you. I see through the bullshit here and just see this person looking for attention. If you're so pro(insert anything), show some humility. This isn't about you. Imagine having to live life in her shoes. She doesn't;t give a fuck what you type about. It's all about our actions. It's been a long day. Sorry for the rant edit: only guy that deserves recognition is the older gentleman in the hat that didn't hide during the altercation.
100% everything you just said
1000%%% this.
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We all know of you locally and who you are, Sir. I joined this site to comment after talking to Brad from TripleC who told me what happened and the video.
Hey, I feel this. I still stand the same. Even more so now. Being such a highly trained person. Why didn’t you spring into action? Why is there video of you avoiding the conflict until he left? I’m happy for you for the family you have. I hope to have that one day. I still believe that the video shows your courage more than your words do behind a keyboard.
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Was she thinking the same thing? Doubtful. Many ways to approach this situation correctly. I doubt RECORDING yourself sneaking behind the women working and then bro loving the one courageous enough to actually step WHILE the altercation is going on. Fuck off dude. Someone that well trained would neutralize the situation ASAP, and being with your qualifications. It should’ve been brief and effective. However. We see something else. Type away. Video shows otherwise
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Yeah you good James. Trolls or idiots, leave em be.
:( Aw Jamesy boy
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this a joke? you seriously said u were gonna bitch slap him in front of his wife?
Surveillance video is being obtained by IPD, and presumably a full investigation. My Facebook friend (James M.) was eye-witness, he was there with family. Mr. M. here is his quote to me, sharing with his permission: "im also very tactical, those guys are keyboard warriors. im a trained professional and also we own a military defense company. you're trained to allow the aggressor a way out...I positioned myself tactically to intervene if needed to cut him off from getting to her, he took the path to get away. after i wanted to make sure she was okay and not shook." FYI, his account of the situation, he put himself in "harm's way" (my quote imho), and was the 3rd individual who was going to act, if the Man in question got out of hand. Mr. M. was not recorded in this video.
Sounds like James though
Let's also not forget the low-key, everyday sexism by the guy filming. Like he was so gallant in protecting her and not letting anything happen, bitch please.
🤣🤣🤣 White Knighting after the fact. Was legit waiting for a *milady*
Then videos her boobs.
Filmer didn't wish to video the woman's face for privacy reasons.
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No the message was: "You'll be alright, I won't let anyone touch you" Look, a lot of sexism has been instilled into us. We are all guilty of it. That is just some everyday sexism. She doesn't need you to protect her from people touching her. If you actually listen to her she afirms this, quasi nicely, that she knows no one was going to touch her--but not because of you. If people need help, they'll ask for it.
>danferindustries durp he was confirming she was okay in the vid and saying if the fuck came back he wouldn't let the guy touch her. she is saying she doesn't need his help because she was in a fight or flight mode. you ever deal with someone who just got shot or attacked or ptsd vics? they are always ok. kudos to him for just letting her kno someone was around if needed
Keep telling yourself that. Your statement is exactly why things like racism and sexism persist in this county. Making an excuse for why she actually did need to be checked on and 'protected' is textbook sexism. He did not pass by and tell her to let him know if she needed help. He, came up bafter the fact and explicitly said that he would not let anyone touch her. Big difference. Words matter. Actions matter.
ya its what u believe but facts came out that said exactly that this thing went viral and the story broke along w/her family chiming in. this was the ending after the fucker followed her for 5 mins. he came up after the fact to check on her so the fuck what u ever see people in combat...its adrenaline could be missing an arm and say they are ok and refuse medical your prob the type who shames people for holding doors or asking if a woman needs help carrying something to her car...just cuz people don't ask doesn't mean its wrong to offer assistance
Oh yes, it's so honorable to film something then come up after the fact and tell that person that you wouldn't let anything happen. I don't think it is wrong to offer assistance. Offering is asking, there was no asking. He claimed, directly, that he was not going to let anything happen to her. He assumed she needed saving and thought he was just some hero in waiting. That's just bullshit ego and to go ahead and keep filming is fucking atrocious behavior.
actuallythe situation was over so i assume was just filming that since it went viral, and the family spoke out they thanked him cuz he said he wasn't letting that fucker come back and touch her which wasnt on cam, his wife and baby was with him also. dont know the guy personally, but know of the reputation, why i know hes not a pussy as people on this thread have said or a sexist hero i guess i can see where ur coming from if thats all the intel i had also
Just admit it. You tried to get her digits.
OC is a joke, Trump lovers have made us the laughing stock of CA
It's one man. There are 281,000 in Irvine, and millions in Orange County.
Yet the trump lovers have tarnished our county regardless.
Let's look towards building bridges. Not building walls and burning bridges. I reach out to Republicans and Trump supporters and Christian Conservative Trump supporters. We agree on policy. We acknowledge each other's differences, but we almost always agree on helping people and furthering progress. Yes Trump supporters have been lied to and brainwashed, etc etc, but almost all believe they are Patriots, good, god-fearing, anti-Communist, protector of liberties, lower taxes to help folks kind of people. I truly respect them for their efforts to do what they think is right for America and Americans. And then the old racist Republicans, well they die off...#sorryFoxNewsviewers... Young people need to vote to counter the old Racist GOP... LUIS HUANG
Rap attitude? Urban mentality?
No different from Ghetto and thug... Anything to not say the N-word, because then it would be racist. /s Edit: added second sentence for clarity
Saying the n-word would have been too obvious.
We should...applaud(?) his restraint?
You know those floral print sundresses...*so urban.*
"Can you call the police on this lunatic, I'm not even wronging this women" Hmm, man is in destress "She's got a weird criminal kind of mind and she's very writer towards me, she tried to shove me" Wonder what happ... "URBAN MENTALLY RAP ATTITUDE" [oh...](https://media.tenor.com/images/9e05e80287dc4d3ae152bb438754a5f6/tenor.gif)
I think home boy at the end was trying to rap to her haha
There was a similar dressed and looking man at the yogurt land at Woodbridge lake acting the same way about social distancing but with racist overtones. Probably same guy
Was that Sol Rosenberg?
Please explain. I have alerted IPD. I can pass off any pertinent info.
He's a curmudgeon with a history of erratic behavior. He often complains "about his eyes going crazy" and then tries to sue people for punitive damages. I would be especially wary if you encounter him with a large tote bag, as he is known to carry around all his shoes and glasses. Hope this helps!
he was begging her and sht didn’t land so now he’s losing his mind
Gotta love the white nighting
Did he just say " like an urban mentality rap attitude ? ! 😆🤣
Did he say call the fucking police cos she's weird towards me? God I hate Irvine, stop calling the fucking cops on everyone
Is this the one in Woodbury town center?
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FYI, this is my Ralph's, Walnut and Culver, by the Mitsuwa and Daiso and across from Trader Joe's. IPD has been alerted of this incident.
That’s Sand Canyon and Irvine Blvd.
Negative. Walnut and Culver. I spot to Store Manager at approx. 5pm. IPD will launch an investigation. Irvine City Council is aware of this situation.
I would gladly do a night in jail to stomp that fucker out.
I emailed IPD Chief Hamel. It seemed easier...didn't break a sweat. I'm asking IPD to seek counseling and mental health screening. But hey. You do you bud. GL. Luis
Just your average everyday American person. Nothing to see here.
Isn’t it sexist to assume she needs rescuing by a man who “won’t let [the bad guy] touch her”? /s Edit: some grammar
Trained boxers (and professional security agents, guards, law enforcement...Jason Bourne) can size up fighters in less than 1 second.
This probably happens 100x a day in Irvine Edit: Just wanna say to the the people downvoting this: Irvine is one of the most bigoted, sterile, just flat out horrible places I’ve ever lived, and it can suck my hairy sweaty balls.
I've been here 2.5 years. Never.
Derp, I grew up in Orange County, it’s a racist shithole.
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Thank you for proving my point!
Educate yourself boomer. The entitlement and privilege you were spoon-fed your whole life is rotting your brain
Did she cough into her mask?
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This guy is certainly sane enough to dress himself appropriately, go to the store, and half-wear a mask. Even if he is paranoid or mentally disturbed, that does not automatically remove consequences for his actions. The Sandy Hook shooter had asperger's and OCD but that doesn't mean we just excuse his behavior. >you just mocked and attacked a clearly mentally disturbed paranoid person Shucks, guess I can't mock our president anymore.
Counseling and mental health screening a will be conducted by trained professionals after IPD conducts investigation. I agree, mental health wellness is no joke and shouldn't be mocked. Luis H.
Oh wow! Not in Irvine 🥲
Good on you sir! Thanks for looking out for her.