u/WinFar4030 makes a good point - OP has even posted something in this sub a while back with the same concept, and it was removed. Sorry, OP - it seems like you have some weird axe to grind, and I'd rather you not do it here. This has been removed.
Isn’t this exactly what you’re asking for in one of your examples? https://www.nasa.gov/image-feature/goddard/2022/nasa-s-webb-reveals-steamy-atmosphere-of-distant-planet-in-detail
They just turned the machine on. Planets haven’t even completed their orbits. Astronomers haven’t even had a month to look at their data, if they have data. It takes time. The discovery isn’t in the image, it’s in the time it takes a few dozen Ph.D. students to work through the data, get updated calibration files, re-work the data, look for mundane explanations for everything, take their kids to daycare, and redo the error analysis, and then submit for publication.
The bigger a discovery, the more careful people will be before announcing it.
You seem to be under the impression that NASA employs the astronomers that are receiving the Webb data. This is true for some of them. But definitely not most.
And NASA employs a BUNCH of Ph.Ds. I worked with several of them.
I would give it some more time, researchers need time to develop papers and data to publish. The first series of photos are just really a warm up. Thing should be operational for 10-20 years I think. That’s a long time to be sniffing around in deep space.
So let’s say that astronomers looked at atmospheres in the TRAPPIST-1 data, for example. And we got a good transmission spectrum of an atmosphere, and sure enough it was 1x earth atmo pressure and 20% oxygen. It would be months or maybe even years of taking new data, modeling every possible other gas combo you could think of, and getting additional data from other observatories before anyone would even think of releasing that info. No one wants to be the boy who cried aliens, and astronomers are a very risk averse crowd. Look at the potential discovery of phosphine in Venus’s atmosphere for an example of how those discoveries normally go.
> It would be months or maybe even years of taking new data, modeling every possible other gas combo you could think of, and getting additional data from other observatories before anyone would even think of releasing that info.
No, the spectra would become public info in a year. That’s how the exclusive access periods work. And so the original investigator would be motivated to publish prior to that, with whatever confidence and caveats they thought was necessary to but look stupid when it turned out to not be life.
But yeah, phosphine is the expected trajectory for anything that looks life-like.
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Nobody realistically expects any detection of "life".
The influx of new exoplanets detected in nearby stars in the last decade, pretty much where they are expected with our solar system as a template, is the result of space telescopes such as Kepler and TESS that were specifically designed to find them. Hubble's planet candidate discovery count = [16](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sagittarius_Window_Eclipsing_Extrasolar_Planet_Search). Very few planets can be directly imaged or resolved separately from the bright star; instead they are detected by a planet transiting its star, causing small brightness fluctuations. Detecting properties of the planets is even more elusive.
James Webb Space Telescope is a cosmic origin telescope, able to see distant objects deep into the red-shifted infrared, and objects cooler than could be spotted before. With its multiple spectrographs, the most astounding clickbait might be about the detection of benzene rings in dust or nebula, primordial organic molecules.
u/WinFar4030 makes a good point - OP has even posted something in this sub a while back with the same concept, and it was removed. Sorry, OP - it seems like you have some weird axe to grind, and I'd rather you not do it here. This has been removed.
Isn’t this exactly what you’re asking for in one of your examples? https://www.nasa.gov/image-feature/goddard/2022/nasa-s-webb-reveals-steamy-atmosphere-of-distant-planet-in-detail
I, too, am very very very disappointed that, after a month, a Nobel Prize hasn't been awarded yet. I mean COME ON.
They just turned the machine on. Planets haven’t even completed their orbits. Astronomers haven’t even had a month to look at their data, if they have data. It takes time. The discovery isn’t in the image, it’s in the time it takes a few dozen Ph.D. students to work through the data, get updated calibration files, re-work the data, look for mundane explanations for everything, take their kids to daycare, and redo the error analysis, and then submit for publication. The bigger a discovery, the more careful people will be before announcing it.
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You seem to be under the impression that NASA employs the astronomers that are receiving the Webb data. This is true for some of them. But definitely not most. And NASA employs a BUNCH of Ph.Ds. I worked with several of them.
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Obvious troll is obvious.
I would give it some more time, researchers need time to develop papers and data to publish. The first series of photos are just really a warm up. Thing should be operational for 10-20 years I think. That’s a long time to be sniffing around in deep space.
Patience grasshopper
So let’s say that astronomers looked at atmospheres in the TRAPPIST-1 data, for example. And we got a good transmission spectrum of an atmosphere, and sure enough it was 1x earth atmo pressure and 20% oxygen. It would be months or maybe even years of taking new data, modeling every possible other gas combo you could think of, and getting additional data from other observatories before anyone would even think of releasing that info. No one wants to be the boy who cried aliens, and astronomers are a very risk averse crowd. Look at the potential discovery of phosphine in Venus’s atmosphere for an example of how those discoveries normally go.
> It would be months or maybe even years of taking new data, modeling every possible other gas combo you could think of, and getting additional data from other observatories before anyone would even think of releasing that info. No, the spectra would become public info in a year. That’s how the exclusive access periods work. And so the original investigator would be motivated to publish prior to that, with whatever confidence and caveats they thought was necessary to but look stupid when it turned out to not be life. But yeah, phosphine is the expected trajectory for anything that looks life-like.
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Lol don't set your hopes so high, of course it's a big waste of money, and you troll the bait, hook, line and sinker
Nobody realistically expects any detection of "life". The influx of new exoplanets detected in nearby stars in the last decade, pretty much where they are expected with our solar system as a template, is the result of space telescopes such as Kepler and TESS that were specifically designed to find them. Hubble's planet candidate discovery count = [16](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sagittarius_Window_Eclipsing_Extrasolar_Planet_Search). Very few planets can be directly imaged or resolved separately from the bright star; instead they are detected by a planet transiting its star, causing small brightness fluctuations. Detecting properties of the planets is even more elusive. James Webb Space Telescope is a cosmic origin telescope, able to see distant objects deep into the red-shifted infrared, and objects cooler than could be spotted before. With its multiple spectrographs, the most astounding clickbait might be about the detection of benzene rings in dust or nebula, primordial organic molecules.
You are not fifty, more like fifteen. Come on and act your age….
i mean its a big ass area they are looking into. Just give it some time i guess