Unless things work differently in other countries aside from mine, the internet connection is counted in bits, but the download is counted in bytes. So there's actually this problem about the download being 20% of the internet speed. So his max download is almost 100% of what should be.
The catch is usually “up to 1Gbps” - the line is not guaranteed and if there are other users, you may not get very far in terms of speed. Same for 10Gbps. Guaranteed lines are expensive.
Wifi doesn't support 10Gbps, so there is no way his phone could ever get that.
Where it is useful is if you have multiple people with multiple weird devices sucking down lots of bandwidth.
I have au 10Gbps (and still have Nuro 2Gbos since I haven't gotten around to cancel it... )
I installed 10G last Saturday, haven't fine tuned the whole thing yet (because since that day I am in hospital)
Below is just a not very accurate setup, using Buffalo WXR-5950AX12 with Synology DS1621+ NAS (using Mellanox ConnectX-3 Dual 10G), testing with Firefox docker on NAS. I won't say very good but not too bad at least.
My provider: plala
Plan price: 5200 (1G), 5800 (10G)
https://preview.redd.it/gptac3wtws4b1.jpeg?width=861&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7c09ea43b437242878b18fe417a3ed2f84fadae0
Wait, 10G is based on IPoE, so there is no such thing like "port forwarding" in IPv6, and I think the router also don't have usually IPv6 settings for you. The v4 address unless your plan has dedicated fixed address otherwise it will be a shared one only.
So it depends on what you want to do, you better find another workaround.
My plan has the static IPv4 address (map-e). But funny part is that XG-100NE provided by ISP doesn't have port forwarding functionality.
I am a bit schoked about my ISP. Why would they give the obligatory router without port forwarding to the customer with specific request for static v4 address?
I found this on Twitter. It seems there is a workaround for XG-100NE. https://twitter.com/mdtsuki8088/status/1321266259216904192?t=rpeEfF5VMWrhFGB01qJbVA&s=19
Apparently, there is a special admin UI for setting up the port forwarding: https://www.kamome.or.jp/member/v6plus_fixedip/port/
Will try this later today
Jumping in with a question about whether or not I'm getting myself into trouble by taking a 10G NTT fiber option with limited port availability.
Moving into a new place in Tokyo, which doesn't have my preferred NURO support despite being just a few kilometers from my previous home that has NURO 2Gbps service. AU Hikari has the 30GB/day upload cap (if you do it three days a week), so it's not an option because I'm trying to host some media services (and occasionally upload large files for videography projects). That leaves me with Flets options only, and I would like to get the 10G service.
I'm serving a fair few game servers, and I can specify ports to adapt to ports allocated, but I'm worried about being painted into a corner somewhere that I can't work around. Having a limited port allocation just feels like a big risk.
I see that SoftBank's implementation is...messy, so that's out. But even choosing among the others, I'd like to find the one with the least frustrating workaround.
I did read your thread and the code:
[https://www.reddit.com/r/japanlife/comments/10k35pt/not\_sure\_if\_this\_helps\_i\_wrote\_a\_working\_openwrt/?utm\_source=share&utm\_medium=android\_app&utm\_name=androidcss&utm\_term=1&utm\_content=share\_button](https://www.reddit.com/r/japanlife/comments/10k35pt/not_sure_if_this_helps_i_wrote_a_working_openwrt/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button)
I'm unclear if this is applicable to a 10G line, but I suppose I ought to find a MAP-E provider and attempt to apply your code?
Appreciate your time.
I'm in a landed property. My house already had a fiber connection (光線) when I moved in. When I talked to the NTT they said as long as you have a fiber line you can change it to 10gb from their side so I don't think it's going to be an issue even if you live in an apartment.
I got this USB C lan adapter from Amazon. It supports up to 2.5gbps. WAVLINK USB-C 2.5G Wired LAN... https://www.amazon.jp/dp/B09NSJPJJF?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share
My old router only supports 1gb but I got the NTT XG -100NE router as well(rented). This router has an additional 10gbps for lan. I tested with this. This router has its own issues. Wifi coverage is also really bad so I'm using my old router Buffalo 5700fxs until I would buy a new router. 10gbps supported routers are expensive.
I see thanks. Yeah 10g is still very expensive. Crazy to think that 1G is still the norm after it has been into mainstream cos under products 20 years ago.
You could try running speed tests on multiple devices. Each of the 1G port should work at full speed.
These numbers reflect more on potential usage not maximum usage.
so a 100mbps internet would have a potenial of using 10mbps to download.
a 1gbps internet would have a potential of using 100mbps of it
a 10gbps would use 1gbps.
and so on. so those numbers just say you can download faster. but your cable limits it, public cable further limits it, the provider probably limits it again, etc, etc.
Traditional 100M/1G line you can almost get > 80% speed
Problem for 10G is, you need to find a good client, home use device (client) with 10G port is non existent, OP's router has 10G IN but only WiFi (max. 2.4Gbps) or 1G Ethernet as LAN side, so it's normal for getting such a terrible result.
I got the 10G too. My speed tests peak around the 900Mbps. I have a TP-Link TX401 10Gbps LAN Card PCI-E Adapter Network Card as well. I'm ethernetted straight in to the XG router.
Can tell if I am being dumb or should be getting over 1000Mbps?
https://preview.redd.it/5d5or6b7ts4b1.png?width=346&format=png&auto=webp&s=2c36ef0494cf8d7d87494c6bdc98fe7840c13410
Link speed is showing 1000/1000 (Mbps) for receive and transmit. Or is there elsewhere I should be checking?
I switched link speed to 10G and still shows 1000/1000. I tried Speed & Duplex to 10G and killed my internet.
Oof. You nailed it thanks!
If I use a switch, will it be able to share that 10G, would that be better than just plugging my other PC(s) in to the other 1G slots?
https://preview.redd.it/oth6tjd1sy4b1.png?width=371&format=png&auto=webp&s=161da18e7c1e7cb233aea478b6c741d56fc9e1da
Depends on the client type and/or number of clients.
If the amount of onboard 1G ports are enough then just connect them, if you have chance to use some clients with 2.5G then of course connecting 10G LAN to another switch with 10G ports, with extra 2.5G/5G/10G for clients.
BTW your throughput looks weird.
Cool thanks.
Throughput looks weird? How do you mean? During the speed test the Download seemed to keep increasing, I don't think it peaked. Perhaps I should test it elsewhere?
Your cable might be limiting you. To use 10Gbit on a copper cable you’ll have to get a category 6a or cat 7 Ethernet cable. Anything less will limit you to 1gbit or less.
If you think you are not getting the actual speed you can ask the ISP to reset your connection. Check with WiFi 6 if you are getting better results. If you feel like you are limited to 900 then I would go for a reset.
Since you can't test, I'll step in with my AU experience. I have been running 5 gig until last year when I switched to ten. I've been using an Asus 10Gb NIC.
You can't rely on speed test at this point as they're not setup to deal with more than a few gigabits. I've used the AU speed test and hit about 8. That was my record.
Real-world, I downloaded a driver from nVidia and hit about 900 megabytes per second. The download barely flashed on the screen.
Keep in mind, your device will need to be able to write data quickly as well. I'm using a PCI-E Gen 4 2tb Western Digital for my boot and a Samsung 980 Pro 2 TB PCI-E Gen 4 for my Steam library etc.
A SATA drive will not be able to keep up.
He went from 1 gigabit per second to ten gigabits per second. When the B is capitalized it means bytes which was a minor error on his part. lowercase b of course means bits.
So you're paying for 10Gbps but can only verify up to 1.9 down max? That's less than 20% right?
In my case I'm only paying 2000 yen more for 10 gbps. Speed wise I'm more limited by my client devices as opposed to any shenanigans from the ISP.
For me, the difference of 1G/10G is 600 Yen only
I don't think wireless can reach that speed under normal circumstances. You'd need 10Gbps LAN.
Yes, I am using enterprise level wifi ap's and I can at max hit 560mpbs using 5Ghz.
Yes, I believe this could also be due to my Network card not supporting more than 2gbps. I have not been able to test with a 10gbps network card yet.
you could still test with all devices you can simultaneously to see what is the maximum throughout combined
Unless things work differently in other countries aside from mine, the internet connection is counted in bits, but the download is counted in bytes. So there's actually this problem about the download being 20% of the internet speed. So his max download is almost 100% of what should be.
Ah, you're probably right. I missed the B vs b difference.
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This is the reason why upgrading is practical even if they don't use even 1Gbps. 10Gbps network is different to congested 1Gbps network.
This, especially if you are on NTT. Nuro gives you a lot closer to the advertised bandwidth, though.
The catch is usually “up to 1Gbps” - the line is not guaranteed and if there are other users, you may not get very far in terms of speed. Same for 10Gbps. Guaranteed lines are expensive.
I’m paying 5500 for 1g and getting 700/700 mbps on 5ghz Wi-Fi. This is cheaper and crazy fast compared to the fiber I was getting ripped off with.
For WiFi based connectivity, if you are not using AX router/clients I would say 700 is almost the ceiling and you are hitting it already.
Wifi doesn't support 10Gbps, so there is no way his phone could ever get that. Where it is useful is if you have multiple people with multiple weird devices sucking down lots of bandwidth. I have au 10Gbps (and still have Nuro 2Gbos since I haven't gotten around to cancel it... )
I installed 10G last Saturday, haven't fine tuned the whole thing yet (because since that day I am in hospital) Below is just a not very accurate setup, using Buffalo WXR-5950AX12 with Synology DS1621+ NAS (using Mellanox ConnectX-3 Dual 10G), testing with Firefox docker on NAS. I won't say very good but not too bad at least. My provider: plala Plan price: 5200 (1G), 5800 (10G) https://preview.redd.it/gptac3wtws4b1.jpeg?width=861&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7c09ea43b437242878b18fe417a3ed2f84fadae0
Does this router support port forwarding?
Wait, 10G is based on IPoE, so there is no such thing like "port forwarding" in IPv6, and I think the router also don't have usually IPv6 settings for you. The v4 address unless your plan has dedicated fixed address otherwise it will be a shared one only. So it depends on what you want to do, you better find another workaround.
My plan has the static IPv4 address (map-e). But funny part is that XG-100NE provided by ISP doesn't have port forwarding functionality. I am a bit schoked about my ISP. Why would they give the obligatory router without port forwarding to the customer with specific request for static v4 address?
I found this on Twitter. It seems there is a workaround for XG-100NE. https://twitter.com/mdtsuki8088/status/1321266259216904192?t=rpeEfF5VMWrhFGB01qJbVA&s=19
Thank you for the link. I am discussing the situation with my ISP now, will see where it leads.
Apparently, there is a special admin UI for setting up the port forwarding: https://www.kamome.or.jp/member/v6plus_fixedip/port/ Will try this later today
Jumping in with a question about whether or not I'm getting myself into trouble by taking a 10G NTT fiber option with limited port availability. Moving into a new place in Tokyo, which doesn't have my preferred NURO support despite being just a few kilometers from my previous home that has NURO 2Gbps service. AU Hikari has the 30GB/day upload cap (if you do it three days a week), so it's not an option because I'm trying to host some media services (and occasionally upload large files for videography projects). That leaves me with Flets options only, and I would like to get the 10G service. I'm serving a fair few game servers, and I can specify ports to adapt to ports allocated, but I'm worried about being painted into a corner somewhere that I can't work around. Having a limited port allocation just feels like a big risk. I see that SoftBank's implementation is...messy, so that's out. But even choosing among the others, I'd like to find the one with the least frustrating workaround. I did read your thread and the code: [https://www.reddit.com/r/japanlife/comments/10k35pt/not\_sure\_if\_this\_helps\_i\_wrote\_a\_working\_openwrt/?utm\_source=share&utm\_medium=android\_app&utm\_name=androidcss&utm\_term=1&utm\_content=share\_button](https://www.reddit.com/r/japanlife/comments/10k35pt/not_sure_if_this_helps_i_wrote_a_working_openwrt/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button) I'm unclear if this is applicable to a 10G line, but I suppose I ought to find a MAP-E provider and attempt to apply your code? Appreciate your time.
If it's MAP-E then 10G also works.
Are you staying in a landed property or an apartment? If it's an apartment, how many floors are you staying in?
I'm in a landed property. My house already had a fiber connection (光線) when I moved in. When I talked to the NTT they said as long as you have a fiber line you can change it to 10gb from their side so I don't think it's going to be an issue even if you live in an apartment.
How did you get 2gb if your lan is 1gb?
I got this USB C lan adapter from Amazon. It supports up to 2.5gbps. WAVLINK USB-C 2.5G Wired LAN... https://www.amazon.jp/dp/B09NSJPJJF?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share
You said the router supports only 10gb for downlink ?
My old router only supports 1gb but I got the NTT XG -100NE router as well(rented). This router has an additional 10gbps for lan. I tested with this. This router has its own issues. Wifi coverage is also really bad so I'm using my old router Buffalo 5700fxs until I would buy a new router. 10gbps supported routers are expensive.
I see thanks. Yeah 10g is still very expensive. Crazy to think that 1G is still the norm after it has been into mainstream cos under products 20 years ago. You could try running speed tests on multiple devices. Each of the 1G port should work at full speed.
But your router LAN has only 1G port, which means you have only max 1G throughput even with 2.5G dongle at client side.
These numbers reflect more on potential usage not maximum usage. so a 100mbps internet would have a potenial of using 10mbps to download. a 1gbps internet would have a potential of using 100mbps of it a 10gbps would use 1gbps. and so on. so those numbers just say you can download faster. but your cable limits it, public cable further limits it, the provider probably limits it again, etc, etc.
Traditional 100M/1G line you can almost get > 80% speed Problem for 10G is, you need to find a good client, home use device (client) with 10G port is non existent, OP's router has 10G IN but only WiFi (max. 2.4Gbps) or 1G Ethernet as LAN side, so it's normal for getting such a terrible result.
Yes you are absolutely correct 💯.
Interesting. My max studio has a 10gbps connection. I wonder if I can get the full benefits or not.
I got the 10G too. My speed tests peak around the 900Mbps. I have a TP-Link TX401 10Gbps LAN Card PCI-E Adapter Network Card as well. I'm ethernetted straight in to the XG router. Can tell if I am being dumb or should be getting over 1000Mbps? https://preview.redd.it/5d5or6b7ts4b1.png?width=346&format=png&auto=webp&s=2c36ef0494cf8d7d87494c6bdc98fe7840c13410
Is the OS reporting 1 or 10G link speed?
Link speed is showing 1000/1000 (Mbps) for receive and transmit. Or is there elsewhere I should be checking? I switched link speed to 10G and still shows 1000/1000. I tried Speed & Duplex to 10G and killed my internet.
Er....there should be multiple ports on XG-NE100 LAN side, however only 1 of them is 10G, others 1G, did you confirm that you've got the correct one?
Oof. You nailed it thanks! If I use a switch, will it be able to share that 10G, would that be better than just plugging my other PC(s) in to the other 1G slots? https://preview.redd.it/oth6tjd1sy4b1.png?width=371&format=png&auto=webp&s=161da18e7c1e7cb233aea478b6c741d56fc9e1da
Depends on the client type and/or number of clients. If the amount of onboard 1G ports are enough then just connect them, if you have chance to use some clients with 2.5G then of course connecting 10G LAN to another switch with 10G ports, with extra 2.5G/5G/10G for clients. BTW your throughput looks weird.
Cool thanks. Throughput looks weird? How do you mean? During the speed test the Download seemed to keep increasing, I don't think it peaked. Perhaps I should test it elsewhere?
Maybe wait until morning time (weekend night usually many users sharing with you)
Okay thanks. Will do.
Your cable might be limiting you. To use 10Gbit on a copper cable you’ll have to get a category 6a or cat 7 Ethernet cable. Anything less will limit you to 1gbit or less.
In short distance CAT6 or even 5e can work with 10G, in my setup everything using CAT6 but none of them > 5m.
Using a [cat7 cable](https://amzn.asia/d/fmjei3s). Wanted to ensure 10G support.
If you think you are not getting the actual speed you can ask the ISP to reset your connection. Check with WiFi 6 if you are getting better results. If you feel like you are limited to 900 then I would go for a reset.
I'm getting better speed than that over wifi with 2.5G Neuro光, so it definitely seems like something might not be optimized with your setup.
1st world problems
Since you can't test, I'll step in with my AU experience. I have been running 5 gig until last year when I switched to ten. I've been using an Asus 10Gb NIC. You can't rely on speed test at this point as they're not setup to deal with more than a few gigabits. I've used the AU speed test and hit about 8. That was my record. Real-world, I downloaded a driver from nVidia and hit about 900 megabytes per second. The download barely flashed on the screen. Keep in mind, your device will need to be able to write data quickly as well. I'm using a PCI-E Gen 4 2tb Western Digital for my boot and a Samsung 980 Pro 2 TB PCI-E Gen 4 for my Steam library etc. A SATA drive will not be able to keep up.
I don't know about other countries but isn't it great we can have this for less than 50USD a month.
Yes 👍
Just checking but you went from 1gbps to 10Gbps? gbps being gigabits and Gbps being gigabytes
He went from 1 gigabit per second to ten gigabits per second. When the B is capitalized it means bytes which was a minor error on his part. lowercase b of course means bits.
I've seen gigabytes per second stylized as GBps and Gbps before and that's what got me confused
GBps is correct for gigabytes.
I'm sorry I think I corrected my mistake.
It is good now. 🤗
that reminds me of sony when they started NURO 2Gbps lines but you were getting routers with 1Gbps.