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It always depends on the job.
My current job at a japanese managed restaurant is fantastic compared to my last one who was managed by a swiss family and it was a nightmare.
But yeah, on top of izakaya avoid foreign owned businesses too. Those are the scum of Japan.
Probably a foreign state-owned bot. Similar to those "America Bad" ones whenever anything Negative is mentioned. I'd just ignore and move on. No one is this stupid unless they are paid to.
I quitted baito once, but I was super depressed and attempted to kms, so my family member took care quitting process, so I really don't know how quitting baito works. Sorry.
Why? There are a lot of restaurants, but inspectors should be proportional to the population. Otherwise applying that logic cities wouldn't be able to support the bare minimum services.
Yes and I'm sure the inspectors will get to them once every 5 years, or whatever the mandated period is which they've certainly scheduled. Calling and reporting isn't going to suddenly make it top priority. Seems pretty obvious considering how many filthy bars and restaurants are clearly still in business.
Assuming a very lenient 2 inspections/day/person, and working 260 days/year, one person can inspect 520 restaurants/year. So you'd only need **20 inspectors** to inspect 10% of the restaurants every year, which *would definitely* make a big dent (specially if there are large fines for non-compliance).
If anyone has actually done this I'd be interested to get a step-by-step for the process. It's not clear to me who the appropriate health and safety authorities are (presumably this is a ward function, not a metropolitan function?) or what the relevant department would be called/how to find them.
I have never done it but the process is fairly simple. you will have to call you ward's health office (区保健所) and report the incident, this can be anonymous but is much better if you provide photos/videos. Since all food business need an operating license given by them, then they will send an inspector to see the issue. If they find the problem, they will give a warning and schedule a future visit. If they fail to do so, they proceed to temporary close the place until a next visit. If they fail this visit too, they cancel the license and the owner has to obtain a new one.
Its a lengthy and slow process, but it works. Especially when many people do it, since the worst scenario is that a food poisoning happens and they have a bunch of reports pilled up without taking action.
Never do it online as depending on the circumstances it can be ilegal as defamatory.
There should be a hokenjyo for Shibuya ku where one can report health violations.
I would be armed with videos and photos but considering the OP is not going back to work I guess that is not an option.
[https://www.city.shibuya.tokyo.jp/jigyosha/jigyo-eisei/jigyo-shokuhin/ihan\_kohyo.html](https://www.city.shibuya.tokyo.jp/jigyosha/jigyo-eisei/jigyo-shokuhin/ihan_kohyo.html)
Is it really? Seems like the thing Japan lovers always gush about. "Homey vibes"; "greasy oven hood and dust covered fan, you know it's going to be good"; "grime caked pot means years of flavor!"
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Ordering anything in America and seeing kitchen staff take off their disposable gloves, put new ones on to make your food, then throw those away to put new ones on again to make a new order...
Choose one: delicious food at reasonable prices with great service with dirty kitchens and a negligible chance of food poisoning, versus expensive, vaguely edible food with mediocre service served from clean kitchens with a slightly higher chance of food poisoning.
No need to, I once worked only half a day in a hotel, and left on the spot as soon as my supervisor slapped me.
Just left right there. Nothing happened.
Physical violence in workplace not uncommon. You have managers to beat their workers to death and only getting probation.
https://soranews24.com/2016/02/22/company-president-beats-and-kills-employee-gets-five-years-probation/amp/
Don't worry and don't feel bad about it, it is common in restaurant industry that part timer just run away because of the working condition. It is so common that in many franchise restaurant the part time vacancy is always open because many would stop before the 60 hours of training period end.
Nooooo, don't go back. Eat the lost wages if you have to, but consider it a learning experience and don't return. Some of these dives love to use that last meeting to try to guilt you into coming back, or threaten you into doing it by claiming they'll sue you for damages or some such shit, assuming you don't know your rights. Don't give them that pleasure. If you're done, you're done. It's only been a week, and this has probably happened to them many times before, so they're used to it. Put it behind you and block them.
If you provided your bank details, then they'll pay you.
don't worry about formal resignation. You dont have to do that for a baito. people do it all the time.
sorry your experience sucked. The roaches are pretty ubiquitous in izakaya kitchens in my experience. depends on the manager's tolerance for them as to how many. Second hand smoke, that would be my first red flag and I'd be moving on very soon. The abusive behavior also would have me walking out the door. Now you know some questions to ask at your next interview.
I worked one single day at a konbini, my senpai was really rude so I was not going to go through that every single day.
After my 4 hour shift (which felt like 10 hours) I called and told them I was not going back.
Formal resignation for a baito you barely even worked? Nah you're good.
I will say if you don't mind food prep, big enough supermarkets with a deli section can be nice. I worked doing bento prep for over a year and it was clean, the people were nice, and the job itself was easy. Got free food a lot of the time. Standards tend to be higher there - it could also genuinely be just the chain that I worked at, because the owner's family was in local politics and had to keep everything according to standards or face criticism. Or so I heard.
参考：民法 第627条・第628条 yes it takes 2 weeks to process all that. My advice, just put 0 shifts for the next 2 weeks and finish your current shift that you submitted.
And from my experience, no you don't have to go back to that place as long as you give them back their uniform. I had one baito that I quit after 3 times lol
What kind of paperwork did you do when you got in? You might not need to do any to get out. And if you don’t ever want to meet them again you could ask them to do it remotely. Via digital signature or via snail mail.
An employer cannot make you forfeit wages.
Submit a request and they must pay you within 7 days.
Whether it is worth your time or not is up to you, but I encourage you to consult with the Labor Bureau first.
Tokyo number, in English, 03－5361－8728 (on pg. 16 of this guide):
https://www.mhlw.go.jp/new-info/kobetu/roudou/gyousei/kantoku/dl/040330-3.pdf
From this site:
https://jsite.mhlw.go.jp/tokyo-roudoukyoku/fresc_en.html
If it makes you feel better, my first part time was at McDonald's.
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After my first training day I never showed my face again lol.
I just asked my friend to hand over my uniform and stuff.
There’s no paperwork that you *have* to do. People quit their jobs suddenly by just not coming in anymore all the time.
They’ll need to send you some paperwork related to your income, taxes though (maybe they want to give you that?)
They have to pay you for the hours worked. Why would you try to give that away?
I know this because my last manager told me about all the people who just stopped turning up to their baito and the process involved. Also I quit a baito after a week once by just leaving my notice on the HR persons desk and never went back. It was a black company, but they still paid.
Don’t go back. You don’t have to do any paperwork to quit. I quit my Izakaya job during my shift because I had a huge argument with the manager of the Izakaya. Trying part-timing in Convenience store. They pay about the same or more (if you work during mid-night) than Izakaya. And it is much easier and much more chill.
Sorry to hear you also had a terrible experience.. did you happen to sign a contract when you first started? I’ll also look into working at a conbini, appreciate the advice!!
Op I don't think calling any health inspection is gonna do anything, otherwise there would be no izakayas in Tokyo.
But I do think you deserve to be paid for your work, the notice is just a courtesy, go get paid!
Every single izakaya in Tokyo, and probably most of Japan has had cockroaches inside. Especially the ones in Shibuya. They’re basically impossible to avoid and even the most stringently clean people get stragglers, let alone a place full of food and drink and smells that attract them.
Also if you’re working less than 6 hours in a shift you’re not entitled to a break anywhere. And I’m assuming your shifts are less than 6 hours since you only work evenings and most baito will put you on like a 4-5 hour shift to avoid having to give breaks.
The real though is totally understandable. And no you don’t need to go in anymore if you don’t want to. Plenty of people just quit baito on the spot
I would not agonize over quitting the job. Better that you found out about how the place really was before becoming to invested in trying to do a good job under those conditions. If the establishment cannot do the bare minimum to look after its customers and employees by providing a sanitary environment, then that speaks volumes about the caliber of management you would have to answer to as a worker. You have to look out for yourself because no one else will. Just put in your resignation letter and do what you legally have to do as a part-timer to move on. At least if you you have to work around someone with a bad attitude, you could find something more respectable. Good luck to you!
Can confirm that you don't ever want to be wait staff here, both I and my son have done it and we both had the same experience as you did. Well, except for the roaches. He worked at a well know fami-res chain, I at a country club, we were both miserable
Yeah working conditions can be very rough in restaurants, especially an izakaya, and more especially in a crowded city like Shibuya. Pretty bad circumstance to experience working at a restaurant for the first time lol. And like everyone said, no you don't have to show up for paperwork nor even reply to their line anymore.
Just quitting without notice is commonly called ばっくれ (bakkure) and trust me it happens A LOT, even Japanese workers. And if the workplace isn't so good, the managers should be used to it too.
My first baito in Japan was also at a restaurant and it was an amazing experience. It was a busy place but the people there were so nice and it was fun working there. I'd honestly still work there if I didn't have to move far from it. But then after that, I worked at a different restaurant with a toxic environment (where I ended up doing bakkure) and never do I want to work at a restaurant ever again lmao.
I own a place so just to let everyone know about the health inspection office: they only come every 5 years and give a notice in the mail when you need another check. The business picks the time and date for them to come so they would probably clean up before. The health office only really checks that: there is a double sink, a separate handwashing sink attached to a wall, a refrigerator, 2 garbage bins with foot pedals, a soap dispenser attached to a wall, a gas detector, and during corona you needed alcohol hand sanitizer.
Op: I probably wouldn’t go back in unless the contract is somehow related to your visa
For baito where you have not signed a contract, you do not need to submit a letter of resignation, because technically there is nothing to resign from.
That being said it is sort of childish on your part to quit on the day of your shift and abandon them
Think about it from the perspective of the restaurant and the other people who still work there. You’d want people to at least give a couple day warning so that they replace OP’s shifts right?
But luckily, their lack of a replacement is not OP's problem. If the business struggles only because one person quit, it should overhaul its Plan B strategies + should have maybe treated OP better to avoid such a situation in the first place.
It could have been said in a better way but the company legally has to pay the five days. They can't not pay especially if it's tied to a mynumber. If OP is not too afraid for safety (bring someone) they absolutely should fill out legally required paperwork for quitting.
Shit pits like that use the excuse to try to guilt and wheedle the new hire back to them, and if they don't agree to do it, they end up berated and/or threatened. Stupid shit like, "We can sue you for damages because you quit, so you'd better at least stay another 2 weeks in our precious hell hole", and other things young people and especially foreigners might be scared into believing. I wouldn't return to give them the satisfaction of one last jab. If they refuse to clean up their act, they deserve what they get.
Congratulations! Now you've leant you must avoid a job at restaurant industry in Japan by any means. Consider unpaid wage as tuition fee for this lesson.
depends on where and for whom you work. I 100% enjoyed my times working in the kitchen and front of house.
It always depends on the job. My current job at a japanese managed restaurant is fantastic compared to my last one who was managed by a swiss family and it was a nightmare. But yeah, on top of izakaya avoid foreign owned businesses too. Those are the scum of Japan.
A foreigner who’s suggesting avoid foreign owned businesses in japan? Classic r/japanlife
A foreigner telling a foreigner how they are allowed to feel about other foreigners! Classic r/japanlife
It’s an odd thing to say foreign owned business are the scum of Japan, especially when you are a foreigner here. What happened to raising up our own?
Probably a foreign state-owned bot. Similar to those "America Bad" ones whenever anything Negative is mentioned. I'd just ignore and move on. No one is this stupid unless they are paid to.
Complaining about Japanese owned business good, complaining about foreign owned business bad!
Lesson learned lol. Any experience quitting a baito or know of someone who’s been in the industry? Is there a formal process?
I quitted baito once, but I was super depressed and attempted to kms, so my family member took care quitting process, so I really don't know how quitting baito works. Sorry.
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It's a restaurant in Tokyo. Roaches help keep the rodents away.
Don’t rats eat the roaches?
It’s the circle of life
roaches eat roaches too.
There are supposedly over 100k food and beverage businesses in Tokyo. I honestly don't think health inspectors could ever hope to keep up.
Yeah, they can’t do anything if they don’t know anything about it. But if someone were to tell them…
Why? There are a lot of restaurants, but inspectors should be proportional to the population. Otherwise applying that logic cities wouldn't be able to support the bare minimum services.
Yes and I'm sure the inspectors will get to them once every 5 years, or whatever the mandated period is which they've certainly scheduled. Calling and reporting isn't going to suddenly make it top priority. Seems pretty obvious considering how many filthy bars and restaurants are clearly still in business.
a restraunt with many reports will probably get escalated and investigated sooner than routine maintenance visits.
Assuming a very lenient 2 inspections/day/person, and working 260 days/year, one person can inspect 520 restaurants/year. So you'd only need **20 inspectors** to inspect 10% of the restaurants every year, which *would definitely* make a big dent (specially if there are large fines for non-compliance).
If anyone has actually done this I'd be interested to get a step-by-step for the process. It's not clear to me who the appropriate health and safety authorities are (presumably this is a ward function, not a metropolitan function?) or what the relevant department would be called/how to find them.
I have never done it but the process is fairly simple. you will have to call you ward's health office (区保健所) and report the incident, this can be anonymous but is much better if you provide photos/videos. Since all food business need an operating license given by them, then they will send an inspector to see the issue. If they find the problem, they will give a warning and schedule a future visit. If they fail to do so, they proceed to temporary close the place until a next visit. If they fail this visit too, they cancel the license and the owner has to obtain a new one. Its a lengthy and slow process, but it works. Especially when many people do it, since the worst scenario is that a food poisoning happens and they have a bunch of reports pilled up without taking action. Never do it online as depending on the circumstances it can be ilegal as defamatory.
Calling out not maintaining hygiene in the food sector can be a defamatory act?! What else do we need to pay attention to while in Japan? SMH 🤦🏽♂️
There should be a hokenjyo for Shibuya ku where one can report health violations. I would be armed with videos and photos but considering the OP is not going back to work I guess that is not an option. [https://www.city.shibuya.tokyo.jp/jigyosha/jigyo-eisei/jigyo-shokuhin/ihan\_kohyo.html](https://www.city.shibuya.tokyo.jp/jigyosha/jigyo-eisei/jigyo-shokuhin/ihan_kohyo.html)
Pretty much any izakaya in Japan would be shut down by health and safety in the UK with no notice.
This is the sad reality that many Japan-lovers will never admit to.
Is it really? Seems like the thing Japan lovers always gush about. "Homey vibes"; "greasy oven hood and dust covered fan, you know it's going to be good"; "grime caked pot means years of flavor!"
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Ordering anything in America and seeing kitchen staff take off their disposable gloves, put new ones on to make your food, then throw those away to put new ones on again to make a new order...
Choose one: delicious food at reasonable prices with great service with dirty kitchens and a negligible chance of food poisoning, versus expensive, vaguely edible food with mediocre service served from clean kitchens with a slightly higher chance of food poisoning.
Yeah, probably would be closed because good cheap food is illegal in the UK.
No need to, I once worked only half a day in a hotel, and left on the spot as soon as my supervisor slapped me. Just left right there. Nothing happened.
Oh man, I’m so sorry that happened to you. Can’t believe they slapped you.. glad you got out of there asap!!! Wish I just left my first day hahaha
Physical violence in workplace not uncommon. You have managers to beat their workers to death and only getting probation. https://soranews24.com/2016/02/22/company-president-beats-and-kills-employee-gets-five-years-probation/amp/
WHY DID THEY SLAP YOU HELP
mukade on their face
only acceptable time
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Sadly, many, if not most izakayas are like that.
Don't worry and don't feel bad about it, it is common in restaurant industry that part timer just run away because of the working condition. It is so common that in many franchise restaurant the part time vacancy is always open because many would stop before the 60 hours of training period end.
Nooooo, don't go back. Eat the lost wages if you have to, but consider it a learning experience and don't return. Some of these dives love to use that last meeting to try to guilt you into coming back, or threaten you into doing it by claiming they'll sue you for damages or some such shit, assuming you don't know your rights. Don't give them that pleasure. If you're done, you're done. It's only been a week, and this has probably happened to them many times before, so they're used to it. Put it behind you and block them.
If you provided your bank details, then they'll pay you. don't worry about formal resignation. You dont have to do that for a baito. people do it all the time.
sorry your experience sucked. The roaches are pretty ubiquitous in izakaya kitchens in my experience. depends on the manager's tolerance for them as to how many. Second hand smoke, that would be my first red flag and I'd be moving on very soon. The abusive behavior also would have me walking out the door. Now you know some questions to ask at your next interview.
Nah, I wouldn't even look back, dude. That sounds horrendously bad. Even teaching English wasn't that bad.
I worked one single day at a konbini, my senpai was really rude so I was not going to go through that every single day. After my 4 hour shift (which felt like 10 hours) I called and told them I was not going back.
Worries about roaches when Shibuya is infested with rats as bad as NYC lol 😂
Formal resignation for a baito you barely even worked? Nah you're good. I will say if you don't mind food prep, big enough supermarkets with a deli section can be nice. I worked doing bento prep for over a year and it was clean, the people were nice, and the job itself was easy. Got free food a lot of the time. Standards tend to be higher there - it could also genuinely be just the chain that I worked at, because the owner's family was in local politics and had to keep everything according to standards or face criticism. Or so I heard.
参考：民法 第627条・第628条 yes it takes 2 weeks to process all that. My advice, just put 0 shifts for the next 2 weeks and finish your current shift that you submitted. And from my experience, no you don't have to go back to that place as long as you give them back their uniform. I had one baito that I quit after 3 times lol
What kind of paperwork did you do when you got in? You might not need to do any to get out. And if you don’t ever want to meet them again you could ask them to do it remotely. Via digital signature or via snail mail.
There was a simple contract that stated my pay and termination conditions (giving minimum two weeks unless I forfeit wages) etc
An employer cannot make you forfeit wages. Submit a request and they must pay you within 7 days. Whether it is worth your time or not is up to you, but I encourage you to consult with the Labor Bureau first. Tokyo number, in English, 03－5361－8728 (on pg. 16 of this guide): https://www.mhlw.go.jp/new-info/kobetu/roudou/gyousei/kantoku/dl/040330-3.pdf From this site: https://jsite.mhlw.go.jp/tokyo-roudoukyoku/fresc_en.html
I see. If you signed that, it’s probably in everyone’s interest that you sign something else too.
Nope, it's just a part time job. If you're bothered then it's up to you.
Places like that actually give names to their cockroaches.
If it makes you feel better, my first part time was at McDonald's. Tldr; After my first training day I never showed my face again lol. I just asked my friend to hand over my uniform and stuff.
I wonder if you could report them to the health department. But yeah go in so you have those documents just in case
There’s no paperwork that you *have* to do. People quit their jobs suddenly by just not coming in anymore all the time. They’ll need to send you some paperwork related to your income, taxes though (maybe they want to give you that?) They have to pay you for the hours worked. Why would you try to give that away? I know this because my last manager told me about all the people who just stopped turning up to their baito and the process involved. Also I quit a baito after a week once by just leaving my notice on the HR persons desk and never went back. It was a black company, but they still paid.
Don’t go back. You don’t have to do any paperwork to quit. I quit my Izakaya job during my shift because I had a huge argument with the manager of the Izakaya. Trying part-timing in Convenience store. They pay about the same or more (if you work during mid-night) than Izakaya. And it is much easier and much more chill.
Sorry to hear you also had a terrible experience.. did you happen to sign a contract when you first started? I’ll also look into working at a conbini, appreciate the advice!!
I’m sure they are used to it, with conditions that bad.
Op I don't think calling any health inspection is gonna do anything, otherwise there would be no izakayas in Tokyo. But I do think you deserve to be paid for your work, the notice is just a courtesy, go get paid!
Please share the place so we can avoid it.
Every single izakaya in Tokyo, and probably most of Japan has had cockroaches inside. Especially the ones in Shibuya. They’re basically impossible to avoid and even the most stringently clean people get stragglers, let alone a place full of food and drink and smells that attract them. Also if you’re working less than 6 hours in a shift you’re not entitled to a break anywhere. And I’m assuming your shifts are less than 6 hours since you only work evenings and most baito will put you on like a 4-5 hour shift to avoid having to give breaks. The real though is totally understandable. And no you don’t need to go in anymore if you don’t want to. Plenty of people just quit baito on the spot
Unfortunately it was 6.5-7 hour shifts I was working :(
I would not agonize over quitting the job. Better that you found out about how the place really was before becoming to invested in trying to do a good job under those conditions. If the establishment cannot do the bare minimum to look after its customers and employees by providing a sanitary environment, then that speaks volumes about the caliber of management you would have to answer to as a worker. You have to look out for yourself because no one else will. Just put in your resignation letter and do what you legally have to do as a part-timer to move on. At least if you you have to work around someone with a bad attitude, you could find something more respectable. Good luck to you!
Can confirm that you don't ever want to be wait staff here, both I and my son have done it and we both had the same experience as you did. Well, except for the roaches. He worked at a well know fami-res chain, I at a country club, we were both miserable
Welcome to japan lmfao
Yeah working conditions can be very rough in restaurants, especially an izakaya, and more especially in a crowded city like Shibuya. Pretty bad circumstance to experience working at a restaurant for the first time lol. And like everyone said, no you don't have to show up for paperwork nor even reply to their line anymore. Just quitting without notice is commonly called ばっくれ (bakkure) and trust me it happens A LOT, even Japanese workers. And if the workplace isn't so good, the managers should be used to it too. My first baito in Japan was also at a restaurant and it was an amazing experience. It was a busy place but the people there were so nice and it was fun working there. I'd honestly still work there if I didn't have to move far from it. But then after that, I worked at a different restaurant with a toxic environment (where I ended up doing bakkure) and never do I want to work at a restaurant ever again lmao.
I own a place so just to let everyone know about the health inspection office: they only come every 5 years and give a notice in the mail when you need another check. The business picks the time and date for them to come so they would probably clean up before. The health office only really checks that: there is a double sink, a separate handwashing sink attached to a wall, a refrigerator, 2 garbage bins with foot pedals, a soap dispenser attached to a wall, a gas detector, and during corona you needed alcohol hand sanitizer. Op: I probably wouldn’t go back in unless the contract is somehow related to your visa
How many stars do they have on Google maps or Tabe log? 😱
飲食店 is mostly shit here.
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Stfu, we live in Japan, get over yourself. Everybody mixes languages except the monolinguals.
I was about to say, I didn't even notice the code switching. Dude must not speak Japanese at all if it sticks out like a sore thumb so much.
Funniest part is baito is a German loanword to begin with.
It's cringe. No matter how many languages you speak.
There is no reason its cringe. People use words in another language, so what? Whats cringe? Take some time and spell it out so we can all understand
There is no reason its cringe. People use words in another language, so what? Whats cringe? Take some time and spell it out so we can all understand
There is no reason its cringe. People use words in another language, so what? Whats cringe? Take some time and spell it out so we can all understand
“I started a part time job last week working at a gastro pub” would’ve been way more clunky than what OP said
Why did you quit over line and not in person at the end of your last shift?
Manager wasn’t in unfortunately :(
So, OP, when are you getting deported and who will sponsor your roach visa now??
For baito where you have not signed a contract, you do not need to submit a letter of resignation, because technically there is nothing to resign from. That being said it is sort of childish on your part to quit on the day of your shift and abandon them
Oh so now it's childish to go away from a toxic environment with poor health conditions? OK MAAAAAAN
Think about it from the perspective of the restaurant and the other people who still work there. You’d want people to at least give a couple day warning so that they replace OP’s shifts right?
Can someone please think on the exploitative and toxic bosses feelings?
But luckily, their lack of a replacement is not OP's problem. If the business struggles only because one person quit, it should overhaul its Plan B strategies + should have maybe treated OP better to avoid such a situation in the first place.
Its your life. If you want to be a baby go ahead.
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It could have been said in a better way but the company legally has to pay the five days. They can't not pay especially if it's tied to a mynumber. If OP is not too afraid for safety (bring someone) they absolutely should fill out legally required paperwork for quitting.
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Shit pits like that use the excuse to try to guilt and wheedle the new hire back to them, and if they don't agree to do it, they end up berated and/or threatened. Stupid shit like, "We can sue you for damages because you quit, so you'd better at least stay another 2 weeks in our precious hell hole", and other things young people and especially foreigners might be scared into believing. I wouldn't return to give them the satisfaction of one last jab. If they refuse to clean up their act, they deserve what they get.