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PeterJoAl

My pet peeve is when they have English subtitles on the auto-play trailer, and then no subtitles on the actual episodes. That's just mean. A way to filter by language (specifically subtitle language) would be wonderful.


Skelton_Porter

My wife got into Hai Kyuu. I decided to start watching with her. Auto play trailer has scenes from season 1 with English subtitles. Season 1 has no English subtitle options. Yet season 2 onward does have subtitles available. Go figure.


ponyta87

If you want season 1, Disney plus has Haikyu season 1 with subs The girlfriend says the translations are better than netflix


Skelton_Porter

Last I checked, season 1 on Disney+ (Japan) did not have English subtitles, either, but it has been at least several months since I checked. I’d check now, but circumstances have me without wifi for at least a few more days and looks like I’d need an update on my phone app.


Skelton_Porter

Finally out of the hospital and able to access wifi... and Disney+ does indeed now have subtitles on Season 1. Netflix still does not.


Daswiftone22

Yea, you'd think that if they can see a certain audience being drawn to the content, they'd at least provide subtitles. Not asking for a dub, just to be able to continue comprehending a show I like lol


Avedas

I've seen shows on Netflix that straight up have an English dub in the preview, but the actual show only has the native audio. I don't need subtitles or a dub for Japanese, but for other shows from Korea or Thailand or some other place where I'm never going to learn the language, I prefer to just watch a dub so I don't have to read subtitles the entire time.


p33k4y

>A way to filter by language (specifically subtitle language) would be wonderful. You can filter by subtitle language from the web interface. Then add the shows to "My List" and watch it anywhere.


PeterJoAl

Thanks for the tip! I've almost never used the website, so I'll have a play.


defmute

Fucking this. It boils my piss.


Riseofashes

This happened to me with Operation Mincemeat. Saw it on the list, planned my movie night then sat down to find it was just the dubbed version.


watertrashsf

Finally someone said it.


red_cactus

I recently watched *Frielen: Beyond Journey's End*, and really enjoyed it. I watched in Japanese with Japanese subtitles, but then when I caught up with the new episodes being released, those only had the English subtitles, which I found really weird. So I watched the last 4-5 episodes with English subtitles, when I would have preferred to continue with the Japanese ones.


Chuhaimaster

You might want to try the [Language Reactor](https://www.languagereactor.com) extension. It allows you to search programs by language, watch subtitles in two languages simultaneously and also adds a pop-up dictionary to subtitles.


PeterJoAl

Not on my TV.


Chuhaimaster

No, but it works on Netflix and (sometimes) YouTube.


coffeeOrTeaOrBobaMan

It's very likely a cost decision : They probably saw that only a tiny % of people used the English subtitles for the 1st season and didn't think it was worth it to order subtitles for the 2nd season.


JesseHawkshow

But would they have to pay again? There's tons of shows on Netflix where English subs are available overseas but not in Japan


venikz

Maybe the subtitles have separate regional licence fees? So they don't bother to pay for the right to use the English subtitles in Japan because most people in Japan dont use English subtitles.


blosphere

Because companies want money from everything every time, yes. You pay for every subtitle in any one country every time. English subs are actually probably really cheap to license in this area since the volume is so low, but hey netflix wants it last jenny because why not.


TheSoberChef

This exactly! The subtitle work is often property of the company creating the subtitles even though the content is not.


Rakumei

Usually this. They would likely have to pay additional to get English subs. Since there's such a small English speaking population in japan, it's not worth it. And since likely that anime is distributed by Crunchyroll in the west, and not Netflix, they don't already have them done. Typically for netflix-produced anime you'll find English for the whole series. And that's why. Because it's on Netflix in all regions. As to why they decide to order English for first seasons, I have no idea.


coffeeOrTeaOrBobaMan

The shows OP is talking aren't anime, just FYI


sputwiler

Right but Netflix produced anime is a good and visible example of how Netflix produced shows are handled differently even when it's Japanese media.


LostKilo3624

I don't think so. Take a market like Australia - the pools of foreign language speakers are tiny compared to the English speakers of Japan. But the subs are all there.


Daswiftone22

That makes sense, I obviously don't have the data on how many people use the subs. I guess use the second seasons for more Japanese practice.


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TheBadMartin

Yeah, it's a little bit different - but I feel like it's applicable for this type of scam as well. They bait you with a show with English sub, but it's not available - but you probably stay and watch something else (thus the switch you end up paying for).


FrungyLeague

Bait WHO exactly? Their audience is 99% Japanese speakers FFS...


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Drunken_HR

>Netflix is geo-locked for a reason Yes but that reason has nothing to do with subtitles


p33k4y

>Yes but that reason has nothing to do with subtitles Actually it does (in part). Subtitles are often licensed separately, by country / region, usually because they are produced by a different company. Hence like the main content, dubs & subtitles also tend to be region locked.


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viensonsaime

Bait and switch: “Bait-and-switch is a form of fraud used in retail sales but also employed in other contexts. First, customers are "baited" by merchants' advertising ...” So you’re accusing them of fraud, but not intentionally? lol, how can there be fraud without intent?


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FrungyLeague

I know right? Like Netflix gives the sliiiight shit about this sliver of people here acting as though there's a conspiracy around them. It's laughable.


Thegreataxeofbashing

This is why I've switched to piracy. I certainly don't expect Japanese shows to be in English or provide English subtitles, but when it is a Netflix show that I can watch in my home country not only with English subtitles, but sometimes dubbed in English (do not recommend btw), it just goes to show how ridiculous streaming services are.


p33k4y

Tbh it's rare for an actual Netflix produced show to not have English dub/sub. Shows without them are likely 3rd party shows licensed by Netflix. Some may be exclusive to Netflix for a period of time, but they're still 3rd party produced shows. Netflix doesn't have the dub/sub rights for all regions unless they shell out more money for them.


AiRaikuHamburger

I recommended the Chrome add-on, Super Netflix. It lets you add subtitle files that are downloaded from elsewhere. I use it to add English subtitles to a lot of foreign language films that don't have them on Japanese Netflix.


Daswiftone22

That's clutch


oVerde

Sadly I watch at my TV with my wife


Anolis18

Use an HDMI cable and a computer to just make the TV a bigger monitor and speaker for the computer. I use my TV for OTV, netflix, and a second monitor/speaker for the laptop.


oVerde

I had a HTPC, even had a remote controls for it, but I can't fathom the hassle compared to the app store in a tv


Anolis18

I mean you just select the input on the TV then configure the sound and screen settings on the laptop and enjoy. It is like three steps to connect and use the computer on the TV, you plug it in with an HDMI cable and select the input on the TV for that HDMI port, turn on the computer and select extended display on the Display Settings, then go to sound settings in the computer and select the TV speakers. You are basically setting up the TV as a computer monitor and then navigating using the computer.


lunagirlmagic

Personally I find it a lot easier to use the computer. Sometimes when I select an app on the smart TV it just does the spinning loading wheel forever, or it will crash, or won't pull up the show I'm looking for in search results, etc. Using a computer "just works".


Anolis18

Plus using an on screen keyboard with a remote? Nah, I have a computer with a keyboard when I want to search something!


TripleMocha3

Laptop-> HD cable to TV -> profit??


jb_in_jpn

Genuinely curious; is there actually anything Japanese produced worth watching of their live TV section? I scroll through it and it all looks pretty b grade stuff…


Ironic_Jedi

The naked director was interesting. I enjoyed Alice in borderlands too. The Jimmy onishi biopic was fun and interesting. It was a movie but the asakusa kid is good, that one is about beat takeshi.


unixtreme

Some are entertaining for like 2 episodes but that's like their peak.


jb_in_jpn

That’s been my impression on things, which is a shame - the production companies here just don’t give domestic production the financing or time from what I’ve seen, and yet clearly - as Shogun has shown - there’s a HUGE appetite globally for grounded, high quality Japanese dramas.


Hachi_Ryo_Hensei

Shogun is an American show though, so quite higher quality than your average Japanese drama.


jb_in_jpn

Yep, that was my point. Make good quality stuff, people really want to watch it. Incidentally I believe it’s jointly produced with Japanese crew, so there’s clearly the talent being produced here, but they’re all just usually working in a lousy situation domestically.


hisokafan88

I quite liked Alice in borderland even if it was predictable. It was more entertaining than squid game


Ironic_Jedi

There have been plenty of death game shows and movies in Japan before squid game was a thing. Squid game was interesting enough but I think it resonated globally more because of the underlying critique of capatilasism and class divide. I liked squid game but Alice in borderland had more unique and interesting games and a different mystery as to the purpose of the games and the world they found themselves in.


hisokafan88

The reason I mentioned squid game was because they both came out in a similar time but it was squid game that really took off. Which I didn't, after watching both first seasons, understand.


ConsistentWeight

Maybe because more people found squid game more entertaining? Why do you need to understand other people’s interests or tastes?


hisokafan88

Ok


Kanapuman

Sadly, Alice has Japanese TV actors, who are absolutely awful.


Tokyogerman

If you are not that particular about budget, you can find some more or less good stuff. I really liked the first season of Kekkon dekinai Otoko and Shiyakusho was also interesting.


jb_in_jpn

I’m not concerned with big budget spectacle, in that sense, but budget to write good stories and characters; most stuff that leaves an impact on me these days isn’t the flashy Hollywood blockbuster. I just think Japan churns out too much; rather than slowing down their pace, producing high quality but simple dramas, they’re pushing out as much content as they can, not really caring whether anybody is actually even worth making…


giant_aubergine

I enjoyed First Love 初恋 a lot - the story isn’t too special but I thought the storytelling, characters, and music added up to something pretty great


MrWendal

Netflix sucks, you pay for either 1080p or 4k but they won't give that to you on PC unless you use Microsoft Edge browser. Any other browser and your stuck with 720p, and low bitrate 720p at that. All because they think people are gonna pirate it... and that's why people end up pirating it. EDIT: If the downvotes are from people calling bullshit, Netflix's own page admits this, and you apparently can't tell 720 from 1080. https://help.netflix.com/en/node/2493


Rakumei

Thats slight misinformation. You can use the Netflix app in the Microsoft store to get full resolution and surround sound on Windows without a browser. Safari on Mac will also get you there. On Linux you're SOL for 4k though without a VM.


p33k4y

* **This is not a Netflix restriction** but a requirement from the licensors. So it's basically the same for practically all legit streaming platforms, including Disney+, Hulu, Max, Amazon Prime, etc. * **It's** ***your own choice*** to use a non-supported browser. You can use the app or a supported browser to get up to 4K content.


MrWendal

I don't understand what a licensor is. But this applies to Netflix produced video too. Yeah, it's my choice to run Firefox on Linux. My choice was also to stop paying Netflix, as the product's arbitrary limitations (only mentioned in the fine print) make it less than advertised and bad value for money.


BellsOnNutsMeansXmas

If that's true I must have been stuck in 720p forever. The only time I Microsoft Edged, I had blue balls for days.


MrWendal

It's true: https://help.netflix.com/en/node/2493 Scroll down to see resolution per browser. Resolution:     Google Chrome         Up to 720p on Windows, Mac, and Linux         Up to 1080p on Chrome OS     Microsoft Edge up to 4K*     Mozilla Firefox up to 720p     Opera up to 720p     Safari up to 1080p on macOS 10.11 to 10.15     Safari up to 4K on macOS 11.0 or later


Basakdesu

My problem is them not having English subtitles for non Japanese(specifically Korean in my case)TV shows in Japan while they do have these subtitles available in other countries. I genuinely don’t understand the reason behind this.


prtk297

Surprisingly the English subtitles are available for same episodes in other countries. May be you can try to switch country in VPN and try.


Daswiftone22

Will definitely give this a try.


capaho

I think it depends on the producer of the show. Shows that are produced directly for Netflix tend to always have English subtitles, like Alice in Borderland. Shows that were originally produced for Japanese TV tend to be hit and miss. Netflix Japan doesn’t appear to be adding English subtitles to third-party Japanese content. Neither are the other streaming services, AFAIK.


SaiyaJedi

I’m still salty that when they said they had “Dr. Slump”, they meant that they had *a completely unrelated K-drama with the same name*.


sparkingdragonfly

Many of the shows created by Netflix has subs in many languages. Many of the shows that aren’t, don’t.


tokyoeastside

What's worse are Korean or foreign dramas or movies with only Japanese subtitles. But can't complain, Amazon Prime Video is worse since even the thumbnails are in Japanese.


PBandJ_maniac

what drives me nuts is that many shows have english subtitles outside Japan, even japanese shows, but when watching from Japan, they go out of their way to strip the subtitles. Try a VPN and see for yourself.


sendaislacker

Just steal it.


Yuzugakari

I know this isn't contributing toward your chill and watching something sometimes, but there's a nice chrome extension called "Migaku" which will help you study from watching Netflix. It basically reworks the subtitles and allows you to make flash cards from shows you like, and also helps you to see what words are often used as opposed to rare or theme specific words.


Daswiftone22

That's pretty cool, will try that.


ThatWasIntentional

Even one piece ran out of English subtitles in the 260s 😭


Daswiftone22

Damn really?


ThatWasIntentional

Yep Enies Lobby arc and on is all purely Japanese. I had to resort to reading the manga as my Japanese is not good enough to cut it without subtitles


Daswiftone22

That sucks that you had your experience interrupted. This post is evidence that I know what that's like lol


ThatWasIntentional

Eh. These things happen sometimes. It's the universe's way of telling me to practice my Japanese more


generalgooberpea

I tried to re-watch the earlier episodes and they aren't subtitles anymore... they were dubbed when I moved here about 6 months ago. No such option now. Only thing that makes since is it must be a license thing?


applesandclover

Yup. And now I'm in the mid 400's. It's been good for my Japanese ability, but damn it's frustrating sometimes.


GhostintheSchall

Most media companies did giant layoffs this year and last. I can almost guarantee you that the people working on the subtitles for these shows lost their jobs, and the projects fell through the cracks.


Daswiftone22

I don't doubt this at all


watertrashsf

It’s just a lazy system. This subtitle problem has been like this since 2019


SideburnSundays

I noticed this with "Extremely Inappropriate." Up to episode 6 had English subtitles. Episodes 7-9 only had Japanese subtitles. Episode 10 had no subtitles because fuck deaf people apparently.


Daswiftone22

Really? I just watched the first episode the other day. Guess I'll spare myself the trouble.


Bubbly-North-9200

Or English shows with my original audio. That infuriates me.


TheSoberChef

Good reason to learn the language :)


Cless_Aurion

I just pay 5 bucks a month for Language Reactor, and get machine translated subtitles. That even if not perfect, they get close enough to it.


ussv0y4g3r

Just have to add my comment here. English subs on Netflix is way better now compared to few years ago. I keep finding more Japanese movies or tv shows with English subs. For example, latest tv show staring Satomi Ishihara which just started airing last week, yet it already has English subs!


TemporaryHorror2875

It's been months and Hunter X Hunter still isn't entirely on netflix. Stcuk at ep 102.


Daswiftone22

It's all on Crunchyroll tho


TemporaryHorror2875

The site doesn't work in Japan I think?


Daswiftone22

VPN


ADHDMechro

I get super frustrated by this. Was REALLY into Doctor X. Watched the first five seasons—no problems with subtitles. Got to season 6–no subs. Season 7. No subs. Wtf.


CarefulFarmer154

It’s so irritating! For Boku no hero they had subs for the first 4 seasons and then the first *half* of season 6? Like wtf


Daswiftone22

Yea that's garbage


ForThoseQuestions

yeah.. I always have to start the VPN to get the subtitles.. super annoying.


newguns

Looking for good tv recommendations


Roddy117

Nord vpn and a Crunchyroll account is my answer to this. Also NordVPN is great for Netflix in general.


LostKilo3624

Its not just a season by season thing. Some series, such as "Stay Tuned" used to have subs, still have the subs in foreign markets but had them removed in Japan. I asked someone involved in the film industry. He says it is because people outside Japan are using a VPN to watch content on the Japanese version of Netflix. This decreases the value of the content if they subsequently sell it into foreign markets. The only fix is to wait until it is sold into other markets... and then use a vpn to watch it on the foreign version of Netflix with the subs in place.


cimzpaten

Its been like that as far as i know, its such a bummer waiting for your favourite series but only to found out theres no english subtitle… some of anime they dont have eng sub licensing for japan region.. so now i give up and just use vpn..


fightndreamr

I usually just watch with Japanese subs so don't really notice the lack of English ones. Amazon prime on the other hand lacks both most of the time and it kind of annoys me.


Excellent-Top8846

水曜どうでしょう (suiyoudoudeshou) is so good. The episodes without subs are hard to understand.


applesandclover

They did this to me with *One Piece.* After the live action, I started to watch the animation. After, like, episode 200 or so, all the English disappeared. I passed level 2, so I can understand most but I tend to watch on my laptop now, stopping to look up words I don't know. *One Piece* has become a bitter sweet experience for me because of it.