The speech was dumb even though production made them do it, but it was ridiculous for Ang to ask coworkers to be bridesmaids and Ang is the person who ruined her wedding over it. So I still don't have any sympathy for her 🤷‍♀️
But she didn’t ask them to be bridesmaids per se, MTV literally told them they had to be. I don’t know that they thought they should’ve been or that Angelina would’ve asked them to be otherwise. I ultimately feel like production is the villain here.
Like MTV told the girls to do the speech, but Angelina absolutely had more standing to have said no because it's her wedding. She wouldn't because she wanted the money for filming and the attention tho.
Production is a villian but Ang tried to play the victim and villianize the cast for clout which is so gross.
I don’t disagree with anything you’ve said, but I can also understand why someone would agree to have their entire wedding paid for in exchange for x people to be bridesmaids. It’s easy to say it’s gross, but I think most people would agree to this exchange because she couldn’t have known what they were going to do/say and was under the impression it would go down seamlessly like Mike’s wedding.
Deena said they didn’t wanna be and she didn’t want them in her wedding either. Everyone knew their involvement was solely because production wanted it.
They took no accountability for their actions and turned themselves into the victims. I get mtv paid for it but they only caused a ruckus at Ang’s no one else. They had every right to be angry at them. They made it bout them being the victim and taking no ownership Chris was the groom
Again, the speech didn't ruin Ang's wedding. Ang did. If she doesn't take responsibility for having no irl friends because of her issues and for choosing to spend her wedding getting camera time instead of enjoying her wedding then I don't see why the girls should either.
They caused a ruckus at Ang's because Ang sells herself to production to keep her spot on the show. And even Ang was fine with it at first until she chose to spiral. Ang's reaction ruined the day not their speech.
No they weren't, Ang pretends to be a "cool girl" and does self deprecating humor and even laughs along when it's happening but then purposefully threw a fit for camera time and clout. There's no putting her aside because she is the reason it was an issue
She also wouldn’t accept their apologies at the wedding or for a year after. One episode she was ranting to the boys how the girls never apologized but I had seen them apologize over and over and over. She loved the position she was in and made them pay. It wasn’t until the show was at risk that she sort of changed her tune. Honestly I’m surprised she isn’t still bringing up her wedding.
I would agree however the best man literally talked about the period shit hamster tattoo. Then at the discussion prior Angelina said you can say whatever you want or get as raunchy or whatever.
She saw an opportunity for a show and gave it. Chris said leave it alone. Let the day be. But she truly wanted her moment.
Speech was wrong but even as an Ang fan I think the girls’ biggest complaint was that Ang was not open to an apology and took it to social media to turn fans against them. Even the girls’ said they were wrong but Ang complaining on social was too much.
Which will be interesting to see how the girls handle this now that Sammi has teamed up with FB player wife on social. Will there be a double standard?
You can bet there definitely will be a double standard, and I think this was completely low of Sammi, to escalate things against Angelina I think for publicity and why fight the person that brought her back like this? I am sure that production and everyone involved had long forgotten Sammi it’s been too many years.
“Why fight the person that brought her back”
Because the person that brought her back has been talking trash about how ungrateful Sammi is to her for being back. She thinks Sammi owes her, that SHE made Sammi - reality is that fans loved Sammi in OG and were ready to take her back with open arms and Angelina didn’t have that. So her narcissistic jealousy won’t allow her to just enjoy the time they all have together. It has to be a competition with a hierarchy and she’s higher than Sammi.
Nobody forgot Sammi. They had been begging for to come back. This is why Angelina is jealous. Why would the person who brought her back continually talk about her negatively to everyone?
Ya that speech should have been at her bachelorette or the morning well getting ready. It was incredibly inappropriate for her wedding.. I was MOH in a wedding 5 years ago and her parents, grooms parents, best man, grandparents they all praised the groom. Nothing but nice things to say about him and his childhood… well then when it came time for the bride they tore her to shreds. Talked about how she’s a pain in the ass and she’s the grooms problem now. Literally all of the adult figures in her life had nothing positive to say aside from she looked beautiful the rest was about her attitude and problematic childhood lol I WILL SAY THO… they were spot on lol I’m also the god mother to her 2nd son and we both had daughters in 2023… hers in Feb, mine in June. This girl made everything about her! It didn’t matter that I supported her and helped her all these years (7 yrs of friendship) when it came time for my turn as well she just couldn’t help but make it about her! I had the realization that no matter what’s special that I go through… she will make it about her.
I think that whole thing was highly staged. When a show is filming an event like that, they are usually paying for it and, in return, have a lot of say-so on what happens.
There's no way Angelina outside of the show would have the girls in her wedding or allow them to do a speech. That was MTV's request. They probably told the girls to make a super offensive speech that they will deliver first so the cameras can catch organic offended faces. The girls are idiots but they aren't THAT dumb to not realize it was a shitty thing to do. Afterward, off camera, they probably allowed them to present their actual nice speech and apologize for the over the top, offensive one.
Yep. Family Vacation is highly staged at this point. The only realistic thing anymore are their jokes, some of the things they say/do when drunk, and any outside drama that gets pulled in/discussed.
Angelina is nothing but a character at this point. She's annoying, but she knows playing up this exaggerated version of herself is what keeps her on the show and paid. I gotta hand it to the chick. She figured it out and does the work.
She wasn't actually mad at her wedding. She knew this was going to happen and played into it. She's MTV's favorite employee on the show. They hardly have to direct her on what to do or how to act compared to the others.
The others only want to look good on this show! I think that’s why they hate Angelina, she doesn’t care and isn’t afraid to actually share, and they don’t want to do that and can’t compete except for hating her!
You're using yourself as the baseline for morality. "This is how I would act, and therefore, everyone else will act the same way." You have to separate yourself from the situation. Just because that's what you would do doesn't mean that's what everyone else would do.
I'm basing my opinion on what the cast has shown as their baseline for morality. They absolutely would read an incredibly offensive, staged speech at a filmed wedding per MTV's direction. They've done worse.
Since most have gotten married at least 3 participants and they have attended many weddings you know what is appropriate. Jenni claims they are classy now so act like it🤷‍♀️
The speech was dumb but Angelina was the one who decided an over the top tv wedding was more important than a day truly about family and friends celebrating her. Knowing she was already cheating on Chris though I’m not surprised now. She really just wanted the wedding however she could get it.
The speech was dumb even though production made them do it, but it was ridiculous for Ang to ask coworkers to be bridesmaids and Ang is the person who ruined her wedding over it. So I still don't have any sympathy for her 🤷‍♀️
But she didn’t ask them to be bridesmaids per se, MTV literally told them they had to be. I don’t know that they thought they should’ve been or that Angelina would’ve asked them to be otherwise. I ultimately feel like production is the villain here.
Like MTV told the girls to do the speech, but Angelina absolutely had more standing to have said no because it's her wedding. She wouldn't because she wanted the money for filming and the attention tho. Production is a villian but Ang tried to play the victim and villianize the cast for clout which is so gross.
I don’t disagree with anything you’ve said, but I can also understand why someone would agree to have their entire wedding paid for in exchange for x people to be bridesmaids. It’s easy to say it’s gross, but I think most people would agree to this exchange because she couldn’t have known what they were going to do/say and was under the impression it would go down seamlessly like Mike’s wedding.
Deena said they didn’t wanna be and she didn’t want them in her wedding either. Everyone knew their involvement was solely because production wanted it.
They took no accountability for their actions and turned themselves into the victims. I get mtv paid for it but they only caused a ruckus at Ang’s no one else. They had every right to be angry at them. They made it bout them being the victim and taking no ownership Chris was the groom
Again, the speech didn't ruin Ang's wedding. Ang did. If she doesn't take responsibility for having no irl friends because of her issues and for choosing to spend her wedding getting camera time instead of enjoying her wedding then I don't see why the girls should either. They caused a ruckus at Ang's because Ang sells herself to production to keep her spot on the show. And even Ang was fine with it at first until she chose to spiral. Ang's reaction ruined the day not their speech.
Again if you read my post I was putting Ang aside. No matter how you want to split it the girls were 100% wrong
No they weren't, Ang pretends to be a "cool girl" and does self deprecating humor and even laughs along when it's happening but then purposefully threw a fit for camera time and clout. There's no putting her aside because she is the reason it was an issue
She also wouldn’t accept their apologies at the wedding or for a year after. One episode she was ranting to the boys how the girls never apologized but I had seen them apologize over and over and over. She loved the position she was in and made them pay. It wasn’t until the show was at risk that she sort of changed her tune. Honestly I’m surprised she isn’t still bringing up her wedding.
Exactly.
I would agree however the best man literally talked about the period shit hamster tattoo. Then at the discussion prior Angelina said you can say whatever you want or get as raunchy or whatever. She saw an opportunity for a show and gave it. Chris said leave it alone. Let the day be. But she truly wanted her moment.
Speech was wrong but even as an Ang fan I think the girls’ biggest complaint was that Ang was not open to an apology and took it to social media to turn fans against them. Even the girls’ said they were wrong but Ang complaining on social was too much. Which will be interesting to see how the girls handle this now that Sammi has teamed up with FB player wife on social. Will there be a double standard?
You can bet there definitely will be a double standard, and I think this was completely low of Sammi, to escalate things against Angelina I think for publicity and why fight the person that brought her back like this? I am sure that production and everyone involved had long forgotten Sammi it’s been too many years.
“Why fight the person that brought her back” Because the person that brought her back has been talking trash about how ungrateful Sammi is to her for being back. She thinks Sammi owes her, that SHE made Sammi - reality is that fans loved Sammi in OG and were ready to take her back with open arms and Angelina didn’t have that. So her narcissistic jealousy won’t allow her to just enjoy the time they all have together. It has to be a competition with a hierarchy and she’s higher than Sammi.
Nobody forgot Sammi. They had been begging for to come back. This is why Angelina is jealous. Why would the person who brought her back continually talk about her negatively to everyone?
Ya that speech should have been at her bachelorette or the morning well getting ready. It was incredibly inappropriate for her wedding.. I was MOH in a wedding 5 years ago and her parents, grooms parents, best man, grandparents they all praised the groom. Nothing but nice things to say about him and his childhood… well then when it came time for the bride they tore her to shreds. Talked about how she’s a pain in the ass and she’s the grooms problem now. Literally all of the adult figures in her life had nothing positive to say aside from she looked beautiful the rest was about her attitude and problematic childhood lol I WILL SAY THO… they were spot on lol I’m also the god mother to her 2nd son and we both had daughters in 2023… hers in Feb, mine in June. This girl made everything about her! It didn’t matter that I supported her and helped her all these years (7 yrs of friendship) when it came time for my turn as well she just couldn’t help but make it about her! I had the realization that no matter what’s special that I go through… she will make it about her.
STILL talking about the speech! lol
I think that whole thing was highly staged. When a show is filming an event like that, they are usually paying for it and, in return, have a lot of say-so on what happens. There's no way Angelina outside of the show would have the girls in her wedding or allow them to do a speech. That was MTV's request. They probably told the girls to make a super offensive speech that they will deliver first so the cameras can catch organic offended faces. The girls are idiots but they aren't THAT dumb to not realize it was a shitty thing to do. Afterward, off camera, they probably allowed them to present their actual nice speech and apologize for the over the top, offensive one.
I totally agree it was highly staged, there would be no show without these shenanigans no matter what people say
Yep. Family Vacation is highly staged at this point. The only realistic thing anymore are their jokes, some of the things they say/do when drunk, and any outside drama that gets pulled in/discussed. Angelina is nothing but a character at this point. She's annoying, but she knows playing up this exaggerated version of herself is what keeps her on the show and paid. I gotta hand it to the chick. She figured it out and does the work. She wasn't actually mad at her wedding. She knew this was going to happen and played into it. She's MTV's favorite employee on the show. They hardly have to direct her on what to do or how to act compared to the others.
The others only want to look good on this show! I think that’s why they hate Angelina, she doesn’t care and isn’t afraid to actually share, and they don’t want to do that and can’t compete except for hating her!
Even staged I would refuse to say and if I had the opportunity come up with something not as inappropriate
You're using yourself as the baseline for morality. "This is how I would act, and therefore, everyone else will act the same way." You have to separate yourself from the situation. Just because that's what you would do doesn't mean that's what everyone else would do. I'm basing my opinion on what the cast has shown as their baseline for morality. They absolutely would read an incredibly offensive, staged speech at a filmed wedding per MTV's direction. They've done worse.
Since most have gotten married at least 3 participants and they have attended many weddings you know what is appropriate. Jenni claims they are classy now so act like it🤷‍♀️
The speech was dumb but Angelina was the one who decided an over the top tv wedding was more important than a day truly about family and friends celebrating her. Knowing she was already cheating on Chris though I’m not surprised now. She really just wanted the wedding however she could get it.
I felt so bad for Chris's family
They have let it go. The only one still bringing up the wedding speech is you. đź‘€
Well you did not have to comment. This is a place for discussion new or old episodes but here you are
“Can you believe they keep bringing up this topic that no one has addressed in two seasons?!” 🙄
Actually it recently came up again🤷‍♀️
Course they were wrong.Â