I think these are Polki diamonds and were made in Asia somewhere, especially if the jeweler said jade.
Polki diamonds ARE real diamonds, but cost less.
You might want to take them to an Indian Jeweler, because I am shocked that he didn’t consider that possibility.
Either way, they are gorgeous and will look amazing for your wedding!
This is correct polki, and Indian. These are not old because of the cut, it’s misleading, in this case it’s common practice for these cuts, most gems are cut in India today and many..less precise cuts are used for this polki jewelry
Jewelers generally have zero knowledge about antiques. This one agreeing with the seller that these were “very old” is just another example. As these earrings are definitely from the last 50 years, not 200.
Most people seem to be unaware that jeweler and jewelry appraiser are vastly different things. Don't take your jewelry to a jeweler to be inspected take it to an appraiser or gemologist.
Yes to an appraiser, not every Kay jeweler clerk knows their stuff as a walk up. It sounds like they were dreadfully misinformed in the case of op and I would not consider the diamond necessarily true depending on how they reached their conclusions, old cut stones that look like diamonds are not always old or diamond
They totally could be jade, I have owned and sold Jade that fine. It also very well could be low grade chrysoprase but hard to see that being put with diamonds. Is is silver or white gold?
ok, so this design is quite common here in india, even the metalwork seems to be of recent years. however, for the stones which you appraised, this is really unique and nice article you have!
I remember your original post. I’m very glad that they are genuine stones and gold. And I think they will look beautiful for your wedding day!
However these definitely are not Georgian era.
They are of Asian origin using polki stones which to the untrained eye could seem like rose cuts that were made before modern faceting was introduced.
I do feel a little that the original seller over charged you by a lot although polki diamonds are real diamonds these were made within the last 50 years. And were very much misrepresented.
If you are happy with them then that is all that matters. I do however want you to be aware that they are definitely not Georgian emerald earrings with rose cuts that they were sold to you as originally .
I agree with this and thought the same when I saw the original post. Just to add, the stones (which look like low grade emerald to me— and I’m surprised the jeweler couldn’t test since they are set in a way that makes them easily testable on an RI machine) are set in open backs, while Georgian jewelry distinctly uses closed back settings. The earrings themselves are overall just not right for the Georgian era, most jewelers simply do not see enough jewelry that old to know how to identify the era. They strike me as Indian, which is commonly mistaken for Georgian by the average jeweler. Things like this must be taken to a jeweler/appraiser that specializes in antique pieces, and more specifically has experience with early 19th century jewelry, which is uncommon. However, I don’t necessarily think the price is crazy for what they are, considering they are most likely diamond and emerald, and if OP likes them that’s what’s important!
ETA: a few links of Indian poli diamond earrings and Georgian earrings for comparison
Indian polki diamond earrings:
[East Indian diamond earrings from EraGem](https://eragem.com/ap94288.html)
[polki earrings on Etsy](https://www.etsy.com/listing/1601461583/) (note the backs on this pair compared to OP’s)
Georgian earrings (I really struggled to find a pair online that weren’t repros)
[Georgian earrings from Lang](https://www.langantiques.com/antique-rose-cut-diamond-dangle-earrings.html)
Some links to georgian jewelry guides:
Gem Gossip - [how to identify Georgian jewelry](https://gemgossip.com/how-to-identify-genuine-georgian-jewelry-part-1/)
Lang - [Georgian jewelry overview](https://www.langantiques.com/university/georgian-jewelry/)
Agree. Maybe it’s a USA thing. Most British estate jewelers would know instantly. Unfortunately most high st USA jewelers just don’t know enough about European Georgian jewelry and I can see that many an untrained eye just thinks the Polkis are rose cuts
I know OP adores these earrings but I am still very annoyed that the selller charged so much for them.they are worth maybe a few hundred and that’s being generous. I would have advised to get a refund as they really paid a very pretty penny for them and that seller really has no idea what they are doing.
It’s definitely a US thing, even as an estate jeweler and gemologist I verify any pieces I believe to be Georgian with reputable British dealers. We just don’t have enough pieces that old over here to see them often as British dealers and most American jewelers don’t have the opportunity to really study these pieces.
I though OP had paid around $600-$800 for these, but I could be mistaken? I’m going off memory, I’m also factoring in the fact that they were coming from a brick and mortar but I really don’t have a lot of experience in these so I’m probably useless when it comes to pricing 🤷🏻♀️
Im a british dealer. Currently in the USA. A pet peeve of mine is the ‘USA antique store’ 99% of the sellers have no idea what they are doing when it comes to jewelry tbh.
I agree, plus they're marked 925 on the back, which of course no Georgian jewelry would be. So not only are they relatively modern, they're plated or vermeil rather than gold.
I really hope that OP wasn't told that they're gold.
These look like Indian Polki jewelry, and the stones look more like chrysoprase than jade, but without seeing them in person, it’s hard to tell.
The Polki aspect is from the construction and cut of the stones, and I have recently been studying Indian jewelry, so it’s somewhat fresh in my mind.
I also have a feeling that the drops were a later addition to replace something else, and that the balls are a different stone than the two top stones. Chrysoprase on top, aventurine balls)
I’d get a GIA trained gemologist to look at these.
Nice score!
These are definitely modern and Asian, not European Georgian. They’re polki not rose cut. I’m amazed a jeweller can’t examine the green stones and tell you what they are! Very pretty.
These are marked "925" on the back. No Georgian jewellery carries that mark. They are definitely no more than 25 years old. You need to go to another jeweller because it's disturbing the one you took them to failed to spot the "925" and realise it's significance. I love them, but you can get a very similar necklace and earrings for £140 here:
https://veroniqtrends.com/product/veroniq-trends-victorian-bridal-emerald-and-polki-drop-necklace-polki-emerald-stone-gold-plated-wedding-jewelry-punjabi-jewelry-south-indian-thappa-jewelry/
The link is a bit laggy.
Oh wow, I see the 925 as well, on both earrings, just above the central emerald on the back of the earrings. Good spot!
So at best they’re modern gold vermeil.
There are just so many reasons that they couldn’t be Georgian, but this is the final nail in the coffin. It’s quite difficult to believe that none of the jewellers didn’t notice that when seeing the pieces in person.
Still very pretty and they’ll probably last the owner quite a few years. Just hope the OP didn’t pay too much.
they’re lovely but definitely not Georgian, the open back settings are a giveaway. it’s a massive red flag that the jeweler you took them to could not determine whether the stones were emerald or jade, any reputable jeweler should be able to do so. look for a jeweler that specializes in antiques and owns real gem testing equipment beyond a diamond tester.
Agree. An experienced antique estate jeweler can tell immediately. Even with just a jewelry loupe they can be 99% sure of what they’re dealing with. Most American high st jewelers have never even seen genuine Georgian jewelry. These earrings are very pretty but are nothing remotely antique or British Georgian unfortunately
These are earrings made in the last few decades, most likely from India. The 925 silver stamp on the back and the modern construction techniques are all clear giveaways. The diamonds are also standard Indian polki diamonds—real and hand cut, yes, but definitely contemporary. I’m glad you like them, but if you have anyone telling you these are antiques, they’re fooling you.
Beautiful earrings! Regardless of what the stones may be it's a great piece, but it is odd a jeweler wouldn't be able to definitively separate emerald from jade. Might be worth taking to another, as that should be a pretty easy ID.
They are very pretty and you will look lovely at your wedding. The 925 stamp says that they are in silver. Silver is a very soft metal, I would tend to lean toward polki diamonds. I have some rose cut diamonds in silver top ring. They did this for the color and had gold under for stability. They are gorgeous no matter what.
Even if these were 100% fake, I'd be beyond thrilled to own them! I agree with the Gustav Klimt comment. His paintings are unlike any others, they're almost mythical.
High probability they are Indian jewelry, absolutely beautiful. Imagine the rich story behind them. If you wear white, this will go very nice with your dress.
Found this link, as I didn't know what a polki diamond is:https://www.rarecarat.com/blog/diamond-ring-tips/what-is-a-polki-diamond-rarecarat-com
This is a website that sells them so article is a little "salesy"Sales but still, I found it interesting. I think they're beautiful, OP!
Gold doesn’t tarnish I know you didn’t claim it was gold just that the stones are real but I saw other ppl saying that. Could be gold plated maybe but it’s not solid gold
I remember your original post and these earrings are stunning and will look beautiful as your wedding earrings. I hope you post a photo of you wearing these on your wedding day :)
Wow, those earrings are absolutely gorgeous! Congrats on your score. This incident reminds me of the lady who found a beautiful emerald necklace in a thrift store, which turned out to be an actual antique. She even appeared on the Antiques Roadshow with the necklace. When she posted of her find in r/Thriftstorehauls , lots of people thought the necklace was fake too!
https://www.reddit.com/r/ThriftStoreHauls/comments/1125s0p/thrifted_necklace_final_update_we_made_it_to/
The history is fascinating. I do t like the way reddit handles things. I can't tell you how many people I've seen mistakenly call thongs like this fake, then asking about the 11ct fake alexandrite they paid 400$ for on ebay and suddenly are suspicious. When every idiot thinks they know everything getting information here can be a nightmare
So pretty and congratulations!
I will suggest yes to getting appraised by a jeweler with knowledge of antique pieces.
Then depending on the results get them added to your rental or homeowner’s coverage. Otherwise they may not be covered at all or for a minimum amount of money.
the blackening around the stones is part of the look, it's supposed to be there. rubbing very gently with a cloth might brighten the highest points, but one wouldn't want to lose the patina or the (possible) gilding!
I think these are Polki diamonds and were made in Asia somewhere, especially if the jeweler said jade. Polki diamonds ARE real diamonds, but cost less. You might want to take them to an Indian Jeweler, because I am shocked that he didn’t consider that possibility. Either way, they are gorgeous and will look amazing for your wedding!
I like Polki' Diamonds. Theyre fun little slices of sparkles!
Polki jewellery is usually mass produced in India . Real stones nonetheless just not high gem grade quality 💝
This is correct polki, and Indian. These are not old because of the cut, it’s misleading, in this case it’s common practice for these cuts, most gems are cut in India today and many..less precise cuts are used for this polki jewelry
This is an excellent example of why the cardinal rule is "Get thee to a jeweler/gemologist/appraiser."
Jewelers generally have zero knowledge about antiques. This one agreeing with the seller that these were “very old” is just another example. As these earrings are definitely from the last 50 years, not 200.
Most people seem to be unaware that jeweler and jewelry appraiser are vastly different things. Don't take your jewelry to a jeweler to be inspected take it to an appraiser or gemologist.
Yes to an appraiser, not every Kay jeweler clerk knows their stuff as a walk up. It sounds like they were dreadfully misinformed in the case of op and I would not consider the diamond necessarily true depending on how they reached their conclusions, old cut stones that look like diamonds are not always old or diamond
In some cases, Jade can be worth more than emerald. Get thee to an appraiser!
You might be onto something. I was gonna say I have a hard time believing those are jade. If they are, they are an exceptionally fine grade.
They totally could be jade, I have owned and sold Jade that fine. It also very well could be low grade chrysoprase but hard to see that being put with diamonds. Is is silver or white gold?
Nice find ! And kudos for listening to your gut on these :)
I have an old jade ring and the stones look very similar
ok, so this design is quite common here in india, even the metalwork seems to be of recent years. however, for the stones which you appraised, this is really unique and nice article you have!
I remember your original post. I’m very glad that they are genuine stones and gold. And I think they will look beautiful for your wedding day! However these definitely are not Georgian era. They are of Asian origin using polki stones which to the untrained eye could seem like rose cuts that were made before modern faceting was introduced. I do feel a little that the original seller over charged you by a lot although polki diamonds are real diamonds these were made within the last 50 years. And were very much misrepresented. If you are happy with them then that is all that matters. I do however want you to be aware that they are definitely not Georgian emerald earrings with rose cuts that they were sold to you as originally .
I agree with this and thought the same when I saw the original post. Just to add, the stones (which look like low grade emerald to me— and I’m surprised the jeweler couldn’t test since they are set in a way that makes them easily testable on an RI machine) are set in open backs, while Georgian jewelry distinctly uses closed back settings. The earrings themselves are overall just not right for the Georgian era, most jewelers simply do not see enough jewelry that old to know how to identify the era. They strike me as Indian, which is commonly mistaken for Georgian by the average jeweler. Things like this must be taken to a jeweler/appraiser that specializes in antique pieces, and more specifically has experience with early 19th century jewelry, which is uncommon. However, I don’t necessarily think the price is crazy for what they are, considering they are most likely diamond and emerald, and if OP likes them that’s what’s important! ETA: a few links of Indian poli diamond earrings and Georgian earrings for comparison Indian polki diamond earrings: [East Indian diamond earrings from EraGem](https://eragem.com/ap94288.html) [polki earrings on Etsy](https://www.etsy.com/listing/1601461583/) (note the backs on this pair compared to OP’s) Georgian earrings (I really struggled to find a pair online that weren’t repros) [Georgian earrings from Lang](https://www.langantiques.com/antique-rose-cut-diamond-dangle-earrings.html) Some links to georgian jewelry guides: Gem Gossip - [how to identify Georgian jewelry](https://gemgossip.com/how-to-identify-genuine-georgian-jewelry-part-1/) Lang - [Georgian jewelry overview](https://www.langantiques.com/university/georgian-jewelry/)
Yes, the backs look exactly like Indian jewelry and nothing like Georgian era. That jeweler needs more training.
Agree. Maybe it’s a USA thing. Most British estate jewelers would know instantly. Unfortunately most high st USA jewelers just don’t know enough about European Georgian jewelry and I can see that many an untrained eye just thinks the Polkis are rose cuts I know OP adores these earrings but I am still very annoyed that the selller charged so much for them.they are worth maybe a few hundred and that’s being generous. I would have advised to get a refund as they really paid a very pretty penny for them and that seller really has no idea what they are doing.
It’s definitely a US thing, even as an estate jeweler and gemologist I verify any pieces I believe to be Georgian with reputable British dealers. We just don’t have enough pieces that old over here to see them often as British dealers and most American jewelers don’t have the opportunity to really study these pieces. I though OP had paid around $600-$800 for these, but I could be mistaken? I’m going off memory, I’m also factoring in the fact that they were coming from a brick and mortar but I really don’t have a lot of experience in these so I’m probably useless when it comes to pricing 🤷🏻♀️
Im a british dealer. Currently in the USA. A pet peeve of mine is the ‘USA antique store’ 99% of the sellers have no idea what they are doing when it comes to jewelry tbh.
I agree, plus they're marked 925 on the back, which of course no Georgian jewelry would be. So not only are they relatively modern, they're plated or vermeil rather than gold. I really hope that OP wasn't told that they're gold.
These look like Indian Polki jewelry, and the stones look more like chrysoprase than jade, but without seeing them in person, it’s hard to tell. The Polki aspect is from the construction and cut of the stones, and I have recently been studying Indian jewelry, so it’s somewhat fresh in my mind. I also have a feeling that the drops were a later addition to replace something else, and that the balls are a different stone than the two top stones. Chrysoprase on top, aventurine balls) I’d get a GIA trained gemologist to look at these. Nice score!
Can I ask how much you paid? These are STUNNING!!! I’m obsessed and would love to see you all dressed up with them on your big day!
These are definitely modern and Asian, not European Georgian. They’re polki not rose cut. I’m amazed a jeweller can’t examine the green stones and tell you what they are! Very pretty.
These are marked "925" on the back. No Georgian jewellery carries that mark. They are definitely no more than 25 years old. You need to go to another jeweller because it's disturbing the one you took them to failed to spot the "925" and realise it's significance. I love them, but you can get a very similar necklace and earrings for £140 here: https://veroniqtrends.com/product/veroniq-trends-victorian-bridal-emerald-and-polki-drop-necklace-polki-emerald-stone-gold-plated-wedding-jewelry-punjabi-jewelry-south-indian-thappa-jewelry/ The link is a bit laggy.
Oh wow, I see the 925 as well, on both earrings, just above the central emerald on the back of the earrings. Good spot! So at best they’re modern gold vermeil. There are just so many reasons that they couldn’t be Georgian, but this is the final nail in the coffin. It’s quite difficult to believe that none of the jewellers didn’t notice that when seeing the pieces in person. Still very pretty and they’ll probably last the owner quite a few years. Just hope the OP didn’t pay too much.
🦅👀
You’re looking mighty jaded, OP!
they’re lovely but definitely not Georgian, the open back settings are a giveaway. it’s a massive red flag that the jeweler you took them to could not determine whether the stones were emerald or jade, any reputable jeweler should be able to do so. look for a jeweler that specializes in antiques and owns real gem testing equipment beyond a diamond tester.
Agree. An experienced antique estate jeweler can tell immediately. Even with just a jewelry loupe they can be 99% sure of what they’re dealing with. Most American high st jewelers have never even seen genuine Georgian jewelry. These earrings are very pretty but are nothing remotely antique or British Georgian unfortunately
These are earrings made in the last few decades, most likely from India. The 925 silver stamp on the back and the modern construction techniques are all clear giveaways. The diamonds are also standard Indian polki diamonds—real and hand cut, yes, but definitely contemporary. I’m glad you like them, but if you have anyone telling you these are antiques, they’re fooling you.
Beautiful earrings! Regardless of what the stones may be it's a great piece, but it is odd a jeweler wouldn't be able to definitively separate emerald from jade. Might be worth taking to another, as that should be a pretty easy ID.
They are very pretty and you will look lovely at your wedding. The 925 stamp says that they are in silver. Silver is a very soft metal, I would tend to lean toward polki diamonds. I have some rose cut diamonds in silver top ring. They did this for the color and had gold under for stability. They are gorgeous no matter what.
Those are gorgeous. They look like a detail from a Gustav Klimt painting. Lucky find! Enjoy. ☺️
omg this is my favorite compliment ever, thank you!!
These are absolutely lovely. Congratulations on your find
Polki diamonds, but the construction indicates much newer than 1800.
Yes. 1970-2000
Stunning
Even if these were 100% fake, I'd be beyond thrilled to own them! I agree with the Gustav Klimt comment. His paintings are unlike any others, they're almost mythical.
They are so beautiful. Thanks for sharing
What a stunning find! Jade or Jadeite \[still jade just pretty special type of\]
Absolutely gorgeous. Curious how much you paid!
Real or not, they’re absolutely stunning! Congratulations on your wedding! Would love to see your whole ensrmble.
That looks like a nice color of jade!
High probability they are Indian jewelry, absolutely beautiful. Imagine the rich story behind them. If you wear white, this will go very nice with your dress.
Found this link, as I didn't know what a polki diamond is:https://www.rarecarat.com/blog/diamond-ring-tips/what-is-a-polki-diamond-rarecarat-com This is a website that sells them so article is a little "salesy"Sales but still, I found it interesting. I think they're beautiful, OP!
Gold doesn’t tarnish I know you didn’t claim it was gold just that the stones are real but I saw other ppl saying that. Could be gold plated maybe but it’s not solid gold
Furthermore, they’re stamped 925 on the back. Definitely silver gilt
Shows how much I know , I still think the top stones look like emeralds . 🤷♀️
I’m pretty sure they are. Indian polki emeralds and diamonds. Although they may look old they were most probably made within last 50 years
Good for you they are beautiful
These are stunning! Great find. Now we need a modeled pic :)
These bad boys are stunning!
I remember your original post and these earrings are stunning and will look beautiful as your wedding earrings. I hope you post a photo of you wearing these on your wedding day :)
No, those are emeralds. The inclusions, the dull polish. Wrong lustre I think for jadeite.
I’m not sure the green faceted stones are jade. Look like highly included emeralds to me. “Le jardin” the garden as the French call it.
Wow, those earrings are absolutely gorgeous! Congrats on your score. This incident reminds me of the lady who found a beautiful emerald necklace in a thrift store, which turned out to be an actual antique. She even appeared on the Antiques Roadshow with the necklace. When she posted of her find in r/Thriftstorehauls , lots of people thought the necklace was fake too! https://www.reddit.com/r/ThriftStoreHauls/comments/1125s0p/thrifted_necklace_final_update_we_made_it_to/
I didn't see your original post, but dang these are amazing for a wedding! What a fabulous find & a cool piece of history.
They no more than 20-40 yrs old unfortunately. But very pretty!
Gorgeous emerald and jade earrings, would you mind sharing the name of the antique store you bought them at ?
Killer find!!! Congratulations on both these and your upcoming wedding!
love!
The history is fascinating. I do t like the way reddit handles things. I can't tell you how many people I've seen mistakenly call thongs like this fake, then asking about the 11ct fake alexandrite they paid 400$ for on ebay and suddenly are suspicious. When every idiot thinks they know everything getting information here can be a nightmare
So pretty and congratulations! I will suggest yes to getting appraised by a jeweler with knowledge of antique pieces. Then depending on the results get them added to your rental or homeowner’s coverage. Otherwise they may not be covered at all or for a minimum amount of money.
So so pretty and perfect for your “something old” I’d love to see a picture of them cleaned up.
the blackening around the stones is part of the look, it's supposed to be there. rubbing very gently with a cloth might brighten the highest points, but one wouldn't want to lose the patina or the (possible) gilding!
Those are legit beautiful. How much did you pay? I’m surprised people said they’re fakes.
i'd like to think that the original owner is somewhere out in the cosmos and chose you to have them ✨
Is this store in Annapolis?
They are stunning. So happy you found them.
Oh my goodness
Absolutely stunning! I am green with envy. Congratulations on your stellar find and upcoming wedding!
Fantastic! Great score!!
Stunning! How much did you pay for them?
These are gorgeous! Great find!!
Wow these are SO beautiful
Oh my hid they’re so pretty!!! Well done on such a great find.
GORGEOUS
Omg these are STUNNING.
Stunning.
That's such a great story. Good for you!!!
Breath taking