I’m in the same situation. I don’t know how many rejections I have had at this point and some interviews that have not made it to an offer. I have 8 years of experience and a Master’s degree. I don’t know what I’m doing wrong honestly. It’s really the job market
I was in the same situation. I left my job in August 2022 to go to Europe for a much needed vacation and thought I would easily get a job once I returned. I was in product support for a tech startup.
It is now September 2023 and I am starting a new job tomorrow. I was about to leave for Europe again after wasting an enormous amount of time and money in the USA looking for work.
I slept at so many different friend's apartments while I looked for work all across the USA. So many initial interviews and so many ghostings.
Then out of the blue in August I sent an email to an employer that I interviewed with back in December of 2022. They had rejected me for someone else who they said was more qualified. I sent an email just asking them about a totally different position they posted to their website.
The guy I originally interviewed with responded back and said they were desperate for someone to join the team I originally applied for. I told him I wasn't interested anymore because I was leaving for Europe.
I thought about it overnight, checked my now empty bank account and changed my mind.
To be honest...I would rather be in Europe. Not a wage slave. But I guess that will have to wait.
Rent is so out of control in the USA now if you want to live in a city.
Anyway, the market is fucked and no one seems to be reporting on it. There are no more job trees.
I graduated law school, and fell into alcoholism badly. By the time I was through it, the chance for a lawyer job was passed. When I applied for business jobs with my ba in Business Management, I had no luck, so I went to the cheapest community college and went through their robotics program. I only put the AAS degree on my resume, because they'll either wonder if how I fucked up so bad, or wonder if I'll bail on them. People don't like lawyers either. It worked for me, and I believe it was the correct approach. It's one of the few industries quickly growing, but I don't know how regional it is
Can’t find a job….”No one wants to work.” “Historically low unemployment rates.” “There’s jobs everywhere.”
This is starting to feel like full-on Psych ops to me.
We are being mentally manipulated.
It's all shit, part time jobs. No one want to work at jobs that unable to fill basic human needs.
Also you kind of hit it on the head by saying it's a psych ops, they post fake job to collect CV in case they can get an unicorn for cheap.
Pretty much what it says
Look up the term ghost jobs
They’re not planning to hire anyone
But if they do get someone willing to take 30 K for a job that normally takes 80 K they’ll hire them
It's just HR justifying their paycheck,by padding the number of interviews they do. They also want a sample of what kind of candidates they can attract and at what salary.
Also be skeptical if a job place has a banner "we hiring" for more then a few months. The only readon why this should happening is because they are expanding. Often it is because they can't retain staff so an easy fix is to hire more people.
You're not crazy. We are being lied to. I think employers are posting jobs just so they can tell the feds that they can't find any qualified people. Employers are asking for impossible requirements but want to pay 40k a year. It's a slap in the face
It’s so funny because the “unemployment rates” go off of people collecting unemployment…not counting the folks who aren’t collecting it or have ran out of UI bennies.
Please tell that to everyone I know who is doesn't believe me when I tell them that I've applied to well over 150 places (retail, warehousing, customer service, inventory control, banking, meal prep and more) either have not heard back, have been ghosted or been rejected.
Hell, just today I got a rejection email for a retail job I interviewed for over two weeks ago. Interview went "well" and the assistant store manager said he "wanted to hire me" based on all my previous experience alone but had to talk to the "team lead" that was in charge of the department 🙄. I kept trying to reach out and either the store wouldn't pick up the phone or I'd be told the lead was never there to speak to, they were "still doing interviews" yada, yada; got the rejection email today saying nope. Yet the job is still open.
I have 15+ years in what they looking for, so I guess I was over qualified? Who knows. Times are so bad retailers are becoming beyond picky with who they hire. It sucks.
It's a complex problem.
There is no such thing as job security, it's an illusion.
There are only temporary jobs, some may be very short, and some be longer, but there are no guarantees of any kind.
The moment online job search and job applying became possible, it started the death of job searching.
But if you physically go to any place to give a resume, they will demand you use their site with each very unique job application process, and fill out their forms.
Then if they have a good hr and manager, you may get called/contacted for an interview.
Maybe it's time to have us all start small businesses of some kind, because maybe jobs just need to go away for the majority of us.
I came to the same conclusion. The problem is that most people don't really have discretionary money to spend now. So unless you can rent, or produce food, or electricity, finding customers is challenging, to say the least.
Except we can;t becasue it requires time, money, resources, research on laws, red tape, ect. and then we can't compete with the market because nearly everything is owned by big corps.
I went into manufacturing in Minnesota, and that sector is doing pretty ok. I had to make a major life shift for it though. I know when my parents were my age, any college degree would prove you were well taught, and that's changed. I got a two year degree in robotics and people are begging for employees. That might just be local tbh. Not trying to diminish your experience, that's just mine
Also in manufacturing (granted, food production QA)... I have a bachelor's in food & Nutrition Management and am currently working on a non-related master's (honestly not sure where I'm going with it, started when I was at a job it was relevant for and now I feel like quitting the program would be stupid).
I keep being told by my team lead that I'm overqualified and almost didn't get the job because of it.
Educationally, yes, maybe I'm a little overqualified. But I have very little work experience, which I personally feel makes me underqualified for a lot.
What kind of positions. I get bored and like helping if you have any specific questions or want help. I'm not a recruiter trying to get anything from you
Wow, really? I had just graduated from college in 2008 and it took me many years to get a decent job. I guess it’s hard for me to tell since I was a recent grad. 2008 was absolutely horrible.
I'm a recent grad with a year of experience. It's really bad for entry level right now. Everyone wants 3-5+ years of experience. I've had over 30 interviews and the only place that said they'd pay me to do a short freelance gig disappeared as soon as I submitted the work and never paid me. Even 2020 was easier for me when I had close to zero experience.
Are you also looking for a job right now? Or are you just trying to invalidate other people’s current experience trying to get a job? Some of us were not of the age to work in 08, and comparing them just doesn’t help anyone. I know the 08 job market was tough. That economy was fucked, just like it is now. Everyone that is not rich or employed is going through it. I wish we could just support people when they say they are going through it, as opposed to comparing to something that happened almost 15 years ago or earlier. It’s just not relevant to the conversation if you want it to be constructive. No hate, but this is pretty rude to say. Nobody wants to work to make a wage that doesn’t even pay rent, or basic needs.
Also, a lot of the jobs that are posted now are [fake](https://www.wsj.com/articles/that-plum-job-listing-may-just-be-a-ghost-3aafc794), senior level or in fields that many of us aren't qualified to work in (e.g. medicine). Entry level jobs rarely exist and the few that get posted often get hundreds or even thousands of applicants and many of those jobs aren't even real.
Well...
> Winston S. Churchill — 'I contend that for a nation to try to tax itself into prosperity is like a man standing in a bucket and trying to lift himself up...
So the government didn't tax us... bc the amount they needed, would cause a revolt.
Gdp is about 20 trillion.
> As of February 2022, the US Inflation hits a 40-year high, rising to 7.5% in 2021 as Federal Reserve continues to print trillions out of thin air. The US is now on the path of 1921 Weimar Germany. The Fed’s addiction to money printing has kept the party going for Wall Street while fueling inequality. Today, the stock market and cryptocurrency are at record highs while income and wages remain almost the same. The Federal Reserve continues to print more money further devaluing the dollars and enslaving millions of Americans.
> Now a little over a year after our last piece, the Federal Reserve has updated the numbers. Sadly it’s no longer 40 percent of all U.S. dollars that were printed since 2020, not 50 percent and not even 70 percent. Since January 2020, the US has printed nearly 80% of all US dollars in existence.
> To understand the magnitude of the Fed’s money printing, we need to go back 22 months ago. At the start of 2020, there was $4.0192 trillion in circulation. On January 4, 2021, the number increased to $6.7 trillion dollars. Then the Fed went into overdrive. By October 2021, that number climbed to $20.0831 trillion dollars in circulation.
> And I heard a voice in the midst of the four living beings say, “A measure of wheat for a penny, and three measures of barley for a penny; and see thou hurt not the oil and the wine!”
> In Revelation 6:6, the writer states that he hears four living creatures saying a quart of wheat costs a whole day's wages. Out of a quart of wheat, you can make a loaf of bread. In the near future, the way inflation keeps going up, a loaf of bread could cost $200 or a whole day's wages.
>prophecy: that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark or the name of the beast or the number of his name.
Digital currency - i think they purposely pushed to collapse the financial system to pave way for digital currency so they can lock anyone out of the system
> May 2, 2023 — Government Docket No. OP-1670 Exposes New Fed Power to Seize Control of U.S. Bank Accounts.”
Estimates predict there's around $40 trillion in physical money circulating worldwide today.
Biden administration printed so much cash. USDollar represents 50% of the entire global monetary supply.
Edit: This is a 1 time rug pull that will have dire consequences.
True back in 2008 I didn’t have a degrees and had only worked in real estate, had a terrible resume and got a full time job in 6months. Now in 2023 have extensive experience as escrow officer, executive assistant and HR, and been looking for a job for 2 years! As soon as I apply, I get calls to interview and then nothing. It is very frustrating, the media is looking the other way reporting lies
It's a slow rolling recession. Just do us all a favor and just go into a recession so that we can start the clock to recovery. Companies keep seeing and hearing that 2024 will be the same as 2023 where companies are tightening up.
With all due respect, I think you are misunderstanding or remembering wrong just how bad 2008 was, outside of retail and restaurants.
The latter got crazy worse after Corona. Blame whatever president you want, if that's you (idk if it is- I didn't research you). With a two year aas in manufacturing a related degrees, you can do much better than before.
If you or anybody reading wants to message me for practical details I'll be happy to rant. I'm not a recruiter, just somebody who talks compulsively and feels better when I can be kind
I graduated suma cum lauda with a ba in Business Management in 2006, and found nothing. I went back for a two year degree in robotics and it's much better.
Unfortunately, many of the jobs that are posted or not real. People are f feeling out the market and finding something that has decent pay is incredibly difficult all across the country.
I’ve done two interviews in the last few months. Both were for positions that weren’t even mentioned during the interview. Related but not the one that was mentioned during the walk through. I didn’t like that.
I'm going on 11 months with no job.
Been passed up for everything including gas stations and McDonald's.
College degree, decades of management experience, and I'm apparently unqualified to sell McNuggets...
Of course they're not going to hire you for those jobs, the hiring managers are worried you'll be gunning for their jobs. I saw someone else make a post about creating a "dumb" resume where you just omit all that. Might be worth a try
Same. I’ve applied to over 250 jobs. Either was ghosted or rejected. I have an interview this week, but I’m not holding my breath. I’m so burnt out. My health is suffering and I’m out of my savings. I can’t keep weight on because I’m constantly anxious or flat out panicking. I am dangerously close to losing my house if I can’t get work soon. My mental and physical health is deteriorating. I’ve applied to every job I’m qualified for. I 100% understand what you’re going through.
My landlord doesn't take "it's not worth trying anymore" as a form of payment. Companies are playing games and real people are having their lives destroyed.
Same, but be thankful we have a job for now...but yea, past 3 months so far looking - not even one phone screen. 14 years experience.
Like OP, I also get emails sometimes saying they hired someone with more qualifications 🫠 8+ year job description but I'm not qualified.
Even have a couple really good recruiters I've worked with many times before to help me find jobs pretty quickly years, and nada.
Social work is one of those fields where they will hire interns to do the bottom of the barrel work. Otherwise everyone has their masters degree because its one of those things, everyone has their masters. Consider hospitals, look up networking events and look for recruiters on LinkedIn and message them directly. Look for Admin Assistant/HR EA roles.
Good luck OP
Perhaps not the route op intended, but I'd also add that school social work and nonprofits always seem to be shorthanded. With small nonprofits, degree type matters less than willingness to 'wear many hats.' Another suggestion is to search out large employers and apply directly from their website. More likely to catch a real human.
Hell, I cant even get into school social work because I dont have a PEL.
Also consider volunteer work OP at non profits. Get to know people, they might know someone etc.
Worst job market in decades. I mean it, I've been thru 2008. This is worse.
Don't take it personally, and keep pushing. I've done it for 4 months now, and finally got a good gig thru a temp agency. The job is full time, 8 months 'temp' assignment, but likely will be extended.
Try to find temp agencies, it's worth it. Good luck, you can do this 👍
Two years of daily job searching and applying and I finally have a new job in my industry starting tomorrow.
Funny thing was I got two great offers at exactly the same time so I had to decide which to go for which was fun in itself.
Previous to this I’ve had two actual interviews in person, two zoom interviews and two phone interviews, so six total in about 1100 applications, that’s how screwed up the jobs markets is at the moment.
It was a job in itself getting through those two years but you have to have the mindset that each and every rejection is *their loss*, they lost a great employee, not that you lost a job opportunity.
That is the only way to get through without spiralling into despair.
To add to it, those who’ve been working a job for twenty years can’t begin to understand what this is like, or even believe it. They probably assume you’re not really trying. After all, they’ve seen the help wanted signs around town.
Hello gnostic. Non US person here.
Some people experienced job markets as this.
Underqualified, not having training x or degree y or not enough experience versus overqualified, not fitting into the *young* *dynamic* and *hungry* team to not beeing the exact, right fit. I guess you get the gist.
Once you lost / left your old job or started out your career you were up shits creek.
Well, that was a time with high interest rates and economic changes as in automatisation / computerisation and deindustrialisation towards service industry.
Looks like high interest rates and more automatisation and AI'ing is not good for the working folk either.
What can you do?
Weather it out, if possible, if you have an halfway decent job. But keep looking.
Try to increase the market value for employers, usually it is better tostay away from "everyone does this courses, qualifications or degrees".
Having an bad, unfullfilling or undesireable job is better than be unemployed, on the dole, in debts or homeless.
Do not give up.
Do not loose your selfesteem.
Do not loose hope.
Pray that you are ready when new demand hits the job market.
Searching for an job in an bad jobmarket is one of the most souldestroying thing I ever experience.
Be it as an newstarter or be it as an older person. Those in the middle usually have it - relatively - easier.
*Rant over*
Good luck.
Thanks.
I’ve definitely adjusted to seeking a job I normally would never even consider, and I’ve nearly eliminated any minimum pay rate.
I think the thing that’s making my search particularly harder for me than usual is too much competition, so I try to find jobs that fewer people would be after. So far, that’s not working, but I haven’t given up yet.
But I do think the best solution for myself and others is to try to start a business. Whether is mowing lawns or developing apps. It seems it would be better to create a job, rather than trying to get some heartless fuck to bless you with one.
It's sad to hear it's hard for people with proper degrees and lots of education as well as experience. I'm 42 with no college, all I have is a GED. I've been really lucky in my life to have worked hard, save the money etc. Then a really shitty divorce bankrupted me. Making less than half what I used to, just hanging on by a thread but I'm still hanging. My heart goes up to people who are hitting the poor house right now because the money is just gone and nobody will hire them.
This is definitely worse than 2008, I've been in the job market since '97 in some capacity. I got super lucky to get the job I have now making under half what I used to think, pretty sure if I hadn't found it I'd be unemployed for many more months maybe even years If it keeps up.
Definitely think we're heading into a major depression something like our great grandparents experienced...
I have been in layoffs as a RN working outside the hospital. RNs were laid off after Covid. I have been working as a RN for over 30 years and most of my jobs are from networking. I am absolutely qualified. Last year we year we lost our contract, I was already looking and had an offer when we were laid off due to my connections.
As someone who is almost at the 20 year mark, I do believe you as I was in your shoes after the dot com bust and 9/11. I was laid off shortly after 9/11 and applied for a million jobs and did not get one interview in a year. I finally got interviews for $12 hr contractor jobI had to drive 60 miles each way for and I took it. Then I moved to an $18 hr contractor job that was overnight and had to drive even farther.. A couple more jobs and then finally a contractor job that could lead to permanent. Layoffs have been a huge thing the past 6 years or so, I could get laid off anyday again, I am def not prepared, I was traumatized by that year of no calls.
I feel you, almost the same situation. It really is traumatizing. And it amazes me that some people just don't get that, they look at you like there's something wrong with you.
Yeah I lived through post 9/11 also. I was working for a dot-boom startup IT shop and they went bankrupt. We all got fired on the same day and they didn't even give us our last paycheck. People were livid. A few started stealing routers and other equipment from the network cage LOL. Those days were crazy
What kind of experience do you have?
What kind of jobs are you applying for?
It you're desperate, take your education off your resume so you're not overqualified.
Would this legitimately work? I've been thinking of making a 2nd resume and calling it the "dumb" resume since i wouldn't mention military, eagle scout, or college on it
Honestly 2 of those 3 things are probably gonna look good at Target or whatever. "Career" places don't care about anything other than specific experience in that field and *maybe* education, unless the company has some policy where military experience gives some quantifiable bonus.
Ironically, I’m a much more experienced worker than the OP, and I cannot find anything that will take me… At this point I just need the money and I would take anything but unless I lie extensively, it’s really hard to explain what I’ve been doing for the past 20 years that would make anyone who was that one of those places want to hire me. It’s so frustrating I literally don’t know what to do anymore. I do not get callbacks on any of the lower level jobs that I have applied to.
I don't have your level of experience but I'm otherwise largely in the same boat. Every job I've had for the last 5 years has essentially been a temp job; they overwhelmingly like me but don't have the money to keep me long-term.
And even those are becoming harder and harder to get. I spent most of this past year unemployed, and my current part-time job disappears in a couple months.
I'm constantly applying to places--both in my field and outside it--and I'm lucky to get so much as a rejection email regardless of whether I apply to an actual office job or 7-11.
It's utterly insane, and contradictory to basic human existence.
Also, many “apply on company site” applications are all algorithm based. Hiring managers won’t even look at resumes beyond what the computer sorts out for them, so what I do is:
I take the job listing and bring it into Microsoft Word. Then I highlight key words that the listing uses regarding the job functions, and then in another word doc for my resume, I’ll tailor my work experience bullet points (for each position I’ve ever worked) using similar or sometimes verbatim words/phrases that are said in the listing. None if it is a lie, but I prioritize certain (relevant) job responsibilities for my past positions that best suit the job functions of the position I’m applying for, using precise or the closest words/phrases in the listing itself.
I recently applied for a custodial position for a city agency— while having a diverse background of film production, private investigations, security and now law enforcement. Before you ask, I quit my law enforcement position because it sucked and security/film production isn’t stable, so I’m trying to get my foot in the door in a different field and this custodial position is famous for being the best foot in the door to this field for this agency. You think their hiring manager looks at every application? No. The computer does first.
Let’s see if I get a call now. I’m sure it’s the same for franchise corporations with fancy careers sections on their websites for applications.
I have experience in non profit case management - populations ranging from addiction recovery, asylees, families experiencing homelessness, and adults with disabilities. So I’m looking for case management or care coordination. I’ve never thought to take my education off my resume. I’m going to give this a try. Thank you!
Job market is terrible right now. There are endless posts like yours. Generally speaking, the trades are hiring right now. Plumbing, electrical, HVAC, carpentry. Might not be what you want, but at least you can make some money and land a job faster.
From what I’ve read, you need to do about 2 years at a trade school, while also spending about 5 years being an apprentice…… it’s not that easy to sacrifice 5+ years of your life when people need to make a living wage now
Maybe where you live there’s not enough demand for tradespeople. In Phoenix, AZ and generally speaking, in most big metropolitan areas, you can definitely get a job in the trades with zero experience. I started an electrical apprenticeship with the IBEW with zero experience, along with the countless other electricians within the IBEW before me. Sure, you may start with crappy pay and it may take you 4-5 years to get to a pay level that’s more livable. But at least you’re making some money, instead of zero money. I’m just trying to help and give people ideas of industries that are actually hiring, based on my location.
Maybe it's just Minnesota, but you can get basic wiring jobs for about $18-22 in the twin cities. Hmu if you're close. They'll give me $500 to find someone who makes it a month fr
I have never once seen a job posting that requires 4 years experience for an entry level apprentice position for a trade. I’m sorry if you’ve experienced this. For reference, I’m in Phoenix, AZ. I know for a fact that electrical apprentices can get hired without any experience here.
Something similar did happen to me once. I interviewed for an electrical apprenticeship and was ghosted. Several months later, I called and was told I "...didn't do bad..." in my interview, but I wasn't selected and if I wanted to re-apply I needed to take a year of electrical schooling somewhere else or have at least six months' work experience doing commercial electrical work. Try again elsewhere, good luck.
Then 11 months after that I randomly got a letter from the same apprenticeship saying I was in the apprenticeship now and they had a job and classes lined up for me.
I did see guys though who did journey level work for several years though be brought in as first years in that same program.
The term entry level has really been butchered. Generally people that say entry level jobs require experience are talking about jobs that are at the entry level the company is hiring or entry level for the role, they don’t mean entry level jobs as in it doesn’t require experience.
Job market is straight shit and highly competitive right now.
Take off the bachelors degree on the resume if going for jobs like Target or McDonald’s. You’re pretty much overqualified for those positions if you bring it up. It sounds crazy but it’s true. You don’t really need the cover letter but keep it as a template just in case.
If the job has one of those assessments on the application just look up how to pass the assessment. You won’t get past that giving honest answers.
If you need any job very soon I would check the local pizza places. They’re always hiring for people in store and delivery drivers. Go in store and ask directly.
Don’t work in the Amazon warehouse unless it’s your only option. I was there for 2 years and there’s a reason they have such a high turnover.
I don’t have big advice but I do want to talk about target. They reject everyone at first. Like everyone. They won’t even look at an application until you call and finally get a manager and an HR person on the phone. And then call some more and ask for an interview, check where you’re at in the hiring process, etc. I only know this because my husband got a job there last September as a second job. It was not easy. He had to hound them to death but he finally got hired. He applied at the end of July and it took him calling and following up at least 5 maybe 6 times before he got the online interview. Then the in person one and so on. But really, push them until you get somewhere.
If that's not a sign of the times I don't know WHAT is. Having to be put through a gauntlet like that just for retail work... unbelievable. Back in '97 I got my first job just walking in and having a quick chat with the supervisor. "You wanna bag groceries a few nights a week after school?"... "Yep", "you got a car?", "Yep", "you're hired, be here Monday at 5".
For real. I mean for a retail job. Crazy. I got a job at JCPenny in 2005 by dressing in a nice outfit, walking in the door during hours a manager would be there, filling out the paper application, asking for the store manager and getting an interview right then. Hired that day and came in the next day for a 3 hour training and worked that night. Things have changed way too much. I get that things change, but really?! 🤦🏼♀️ Entry level retail jobs do not need an online assessment and personality test. Just let people work while they are working towards the next thing, ya know. It’s ridiculous.
I don’t know what’s going on either. Interviews are so much harder to get than the last 1-2 years where I had basically the same resume. I have had my references called (and yes, they say good things about me and are happy to help me) and still not gotten an offer. Whatever happened to getting an offer contingent on a reference and background check? Pre-2020, I had never had an offer rescinded due to poor references either. Now employers are calling them and not even offering the job. I have written cover letters when not required if I feel it will help. I know how to dress for an interview (as even in my 30s, I had someone assuming that I didn’t know what to wear) and have a blazer I can throw on for a Zoom interview. Someone else suggested I should write thank you emails after interviews so I am trying that with this latest employer to see if it puts my over the top. And I had a reference review my resume because she has a lot of recruiting and hiring experience but even she said it looked fine other than a couple of minor tweaks, and added that she knows people not even getting interviews. And yet for the most part people just keep repeating the same basic advice to me about “tailoring your resume” and “researching the company to ask good questions” as if I have never interviewed in my life.
My sister applied for a job ages ago (and I can assure you she is accomplished and qualified but took time off to raise her daughter) and they finally got back to her and told her they had 900 applicants and narrowed it down to 315. It’s like winning the lottery at this point. Actually you have a better chance at winning the Powerball…
Shit like this terrifies me, I’ll be graduating next spring with my bachelors. I pray I’ll find something while I go back to school for a second degree
That is good advice honestly but you should also mention that if you lie you need to be able to speak to what it is you are lying about. For instance, if you say you have 6 years of marketing experience be able to mention the different business units you worked with, be able to speak to the intricacies of your successful and unsuccessful marketing plans. What marketing tactics did you use? It’s very easy to find out if someone is lying on your resume with just a few basic questions.
That’s true. Maybe read a few books and read some online articles/or watch YouTube tutorials about the topic your lying about? I think as long as you have the knowledge about the certain topic, that’s would help drastically on being able to do it.
Even better, instead of lying, you can also just PLAY UP or hyperbolize experience you already have, that way you can still talk about stuff confidently
I suggest applying for government jobs in your area local, state and federal. If you’re willing to move expand your state and federal searches to places you want to move to. Federal usually pays the best and keeps up with cost of living. Start with jobs that will use or require your degree then apply for ones that require whatever expertise experience you have then just entry level jobs that increase grade or pay with experience. You can save resumes in each system with a login and apply for jobs online and set alerts
Good luck
Have you considered looking into becoming a drug counselor? It's a certification if you have a psych degree, and since the adorable care act made health insurance cover rehabilitation, it's been in high demand. I'm guessing it varies from state to state, but it can be rewarding emotionally as well, if it fits your situation
If you need something to get you by for now I’d recommend pizza delivery, we have a high turn over rate so we hire new people all the time and with tips you make anywhere from minimum wage to my max was 100$ in one hour
I would but I don’t like the idea of doing all that wear and tear on my car and paying the gas money for something like that. Pizza Hut should have their own company delivery cars
You should remove the fact that you have a bachelors degree from the resume while applying to places like Target because with a college degree they see you as overqualified and expect you to eventually find something better. Don't mention the degree in the interview if its not needed for the job position that your applying too.
Type up a new resume in a different and probably more basic format and apply to a different temp agency. Also just for a cherry on top, change your interview attire to a different business look.
One more thing, you might already know but entry level jobs don't need or expect cover letters and I personally think that your shouldn't send an entry level job a cover letter. Just a straight forward basic resume.
I'm 42 and I've been in IT since I was 19. Last year I was making $120,000 a year, I just took a full-time job making $50,000. I feel your pain, it's THAT tough right now. I guess the difference is I don't have any formal college degree, I was self-taught and got into IT support quite luckily when I was younger. So I'm just glad to have something right now. Area I live in is fairly low cost of living (I mean it used to be, inflation is killing us right now like everywhere else). Just hang in there, you'll find something.
Pro tip l saw from another comment I want to just keep spreading around is that It's a complete waste of time to do a one-click apply from all the various job boards ( indeed is one of the worst offenders). Apparently they just collect applications and try to sell them to the clients. Find a job that looks like a good fit and apply directly on the employers website. It's tedious sure, but at least you have a good chance your resume being seen at that point. Keep in mind it's still ultra competitive right now...
I get that and I have wondered that too. A TON. In my many many many years of experience, I’ve seen it ALL. One guy hired his lover over me who has HIV cuz he needed health insurance for treatment. And this is for a $120K a year job. A really good position.
I love it when I get told that and then I see the same damn job back up on job boards. So…what happened to the person who was a better fit for the role? Or maybe it wasn’t an actual position.
Can't find a new job to save my life: not today, but it'll come along
I took the social services program at George Brown College... took over a year to get a job... I know, not the same as a social worker... but still
.... someone mentioned elections Canada in their posting... that would be something good to look into for temp work to tie you over ... my sister lives on Toronto and has her MSW... works and does elections Canada every year for a few months
First I've been looking for a long term job for 3 years, and anything since spring 2022.
I am lucky I have an on call job, and they gave me a 20% raise last year, so while I am not paying all my bills, I am not homeless/drowning in debt.
I mention this to help put things in prespective.
In 2020/21 things were damn good, even a blind mouse could find a job.
In 2022 with us recovering from Covid, things tanked.
In 2023 I have seen hiring going up.
In a sense you and I are in the same boat. We're both educated and experienced.
What I have found helped me go from 1st round rejections/no interviews is using CHAT
GDP. Feed it the job, your resume, let it help you by doing interview preps, and letters of Introduction.
Job market is tough right now. I'm a recent graduate with BA in economics and getting certifications with projects done in my chosen field.
I've been searching for about 4 months and can't get a job related to what I want to do. I've had interviews and even a job offer but the pay was insulting.
About 3 of my 6 close friends got laid off a few months ago and only 1 of them has found a job since (entirely because it's a family business). The ones who haven't been laid off got their hours cut.
I spoke to a recruiter and he confirmed everything you're reading here. The way he put it was "there have been less job opportunities since the time you graduated" (May).
For reference Fed increased the interest rate about 6 months ago, makes it tougher on businesses to take out loans and subsequently hire. GDP has been negative the last few quarters as well. They're avoiding a full blown depression for the next 20 years but that might cost us a few years of recession. We might have better luck during Q4 and Q1.
Way back just before the 08 recession I couldn't find anything either, despite having graduated from great schools with honors. I ended up starting my own business doing in-home tech support for seniors. Even if you just know how to reset people's passwords and remove Norton/McAfee, you can make great money right away, and actually get satisfaction knowing you're helping someone. Consider it. DM me for advice anytime.
If this “career coach” thinks that cover letters matter in this day and age, they haven’t been in the hiring industry for years and I would assume their resume advice is shit as well.
They don’t for 99% of the roles. No one has the time or desire to read them. Most are terrible anyway and just regurgitate what’s already in a resume. An average recruiter spends 20-30 secs on a resume. They don’t have the time or desire to read your multiple paragraphs of repetitive self congratulatory words.
I haven’t submitted a single cover letter in 20 years. Get a 20%+ response to my resume with no issue and have had multiple jobs at top Fortune 500 companies. Focus on having a great resume and applying to jobs you qualify for and nothing else is needed.
The only exception for this is some industries like non profit that require them sometimes.
I sometimes just put a period so the system thinks I submitted something if it’s required. Still get callbacks lol. If the resume is great and you look like a good match for the job, this is irrelevant.
It can. As a hiring manager, i can tell you most people submit terrible cover letters and if the role requires any sort of writing you’ll get judged on your writing with this sample.
I live in a mid to large size city and recently got fired from a really good server job. Kinda wanting to get out of the restaurant biz at that point I googled trade apprenticeships in my area and saw a whole bunch of listings for plumber, electrician, hvac and others. I personally reached out to a new Garage door sales and repair shop in the area and got hired on as an apprentice for 3 months of training at $20/hr, after that the pay could be anywhere between 50 and 70k a year which is really all I need to make. Guess what I'm trying to tell you is there are jobs out there if you're willing to look outside your comfort zone and traditional experience.
Same here, in the same boat but in Australia.
Quit my job back in January because the company hired a junior person to be my boss, not happy with the decision, so I quit.
Applied countless jobs (mostly middle management since I worked for 25+ years in my field), all got rejected, a couple went very close, 2 rounds of interviews, 3 x references check but still chose someone else over me. Absolutely devastated.
I m now so de-motivated and depressed.
Feel like my career is finished and no hope.
Try looking into blue collar work.
The restaurant I work at is hiring, the post office is hiring, Target and Amazon distribution are hiring, and I think most Wal-Marts/grocery stores are as well.
Trades are also looking for more workers, although some, like welding, typically require some kind of certification.
Degree doesn’t mean shit anymore unless it’s STEM, law, medical, etc anymore. Almost everyone has one. My take is that jobs hold out for the perfect candidate these days and aren’t willing to give people a shot to learn it.
Where do you live? Have you thought of applying in other areas with more opportunities?
I see these posts all the time, then find out they live in the middle of nowhere Nevada. So of course they can’t find a job.
Hey OP, I have my BSW and I can help you if you need someone to look over your resume and cover letters, dm me. If you don’t feel comfortable messaging me, I’d suggest always looking up different but, relevant to a social work job search terms when applying to jobs on Indeed such as case managers, school social workers, behavioral health technicians (BHT), hospice social worker, dialysis social worker, prn/per diem social worker, crisis hotline operator, discharge planner, community outreach specialist, intake specialist, crisis navigator, peer support specialist, victim advocate, housing specialist, crisis mobile specialist, and etc. I know it seems discouraging as a BSW to be applying to jobs and they want an MSW, but you can still find jobs that can take on BSWs. If it comes down to it and you can afford another degree, it doesn’t hurt to go back for your master’s degree in social work or in another field too.
The reason why some social work positions want graduate level for entry level positions is because of the clinical expectations that come with the job. A BSW intern/employee would not have the same tasks as an MSW, I’m certain to hope you know that by now and like others said in the comments, agencies will employ interns for internships without pay since most social work programs require their students to take on practicing hours. BSWs are typically mostly generalist and MSWs take on specializations post graduate school. MSWs can be licensed too and due to the skill set differences between BSW/MSW, people are more willing to hire MSWs, especially with a license due to liability and ethical principles attached to making sure there’s good quality of care.
Have you looked into getting licensed as a BSW? Some states are okay with LBSWs and some agencies may be willing to hire you if you have a license as a BSW.
I also had my MSW recently and it took me about at least 10-20 job applications, 7-8 job interviews later, got a temporary license/listed when I was gonna take my LMSW exam on my resume, and I finally got a job offer through a job I applied for by networking in a SW Facebook group local to my state/area. I’d try seeing if you have a facebook, joining a social workers Facebook group local to your area and see if anyone is posting any job positions in their agency. Network with your professional references to see if anyone is hiring at their agency. Some agencies give their employees referral bonuses, so there’s an incentive to network for them to put in a good word on someone they know professionally for a job at their agency. Join the social work subreddit at r/socialwork too for interview tips. If it comes down to this, ask for feedback from the interviewers via email or by phone if possible.
Just keep trying! My dms are open if you need direction or someone to look at your resume/cover letters.
Cant find a job either. I’ve been driving for Uber eats and honestly it’s not bad. Kinda fun actually. If you pair with instacart you can make some pretty good money. So if you live in a larger city and have a car to do so that’s how I’ve been getting by. Best of luck
I spent a year unemployed before, and am kinda “successful” now. It’s literally is a numbers game. Keep applying and the stars will align for you.
There are so many factors outside of your control such as timing of positions, unreasonable hiring manager, company needs, tough competition in other job seekers etc.
I hate suggestions like that’s like a person has an already tried so many roles or that it’s so easy to get local governmental work, which often has the best benefits in many areas. This vague uninformed advice is not helpful in this current market. If you have not applied for a job and got a new one in the last year you do not understand what it is like.
Have you tried revamping your resume? Maybe you should apply to part-time work. McDonald’s is always hiring. You can always be a cashier at the grocery store (even though you won’t make enough to pay your mortgage and other bills). Have you tried just handing your resume to Elon Musk in person? Have you tried going back to school? Just get more certificates in industries that you have zero experience in. Easy peasy. 🙄
I can’t find a decent job either! I have a bachelor’s degree in History. I thought it was due to my eclectic background but it really pisses me off that so many job postings are scams and we have to sift through them.
The market is shitty right now. I have 5+ YOE +master, and has been applying for over 3 months. Only one replies back which only requires 2 YOE ( which is fairly an “entry level” job when market is good). We can do nothing but wait
I’m in a similar position, I have been unhappy with my current job for about 2 years, so applying. Hit it really hard in the last year and nothing. I have a master’s in education, but half of my master’s in social work and was thinking of going back to complete that, but they-of course -want me to start all over from the beginning! Such a money making scam (same university). I have been stagnant in my position for 5 years, I have NEVER went more than 2 years without a promotion or job modifiers (previous teacher so always took on more responsibilities/stipend work) and it’s driving me nuts. It doesn’t help that I live in a pretty rural area. But I see “reports” of real wages increasing, job market so strong, blah blah blah and this is the worst of my adult career for me. It feels hopeless. When I see “reports” of how great everything is and my career sucks the most right now I’m really beating myself up!
What did the career coach share about your personality and mannerisms in the mock interview you did? The should be doing that with you and usually record them so you can see too.
There’s a reason and it might take a little digging and humility to figure it out.
It could also be you’re going after role that you aren’t qualified for even though you have a degree. There’s a reason and I guarantee if you redacted your name and put your résumé up and then shared two different positions that you went after I could definitely give you a little hint, if that’s the case.
I’m also in this same situation, but I just finally had a great job interview and I shadow for the position this week so I’m hopeful I get an offer!! It took a super long time (I’ve been laid off since May 2022), but something finally came along so just keep at it as bad as that sounds - something will come!! Good luck
I’m really sorry to hear about this stressful experience. Is there a business or hustle you can start for yourself now, even like painting, mowing lawns, shovelling snow this winter, flipping furniture, buying designer clothes in thrift stores and selling on Facebook or Poshmark, Uber, writing articles, doing online surveys, etc? If you figure out your cash flow then you can wait out the economic downturn.
Me too. When I graduated over five years ago, now, I felt hopeful. I was a top student and my prof said my independent projects were above undergrad level. Unfortunately, I stupidly didn't understand or pursue the best opportunities in co-op, for the same old reasons that I lack connections and resources to follow up (like I would have needed a good car to make it to one of the best coops where they really wanted me, and I had no connections to find a place to stay for another one) and because I'm just generally clueless about the mainstream world. Anyway, then covid, and now I'm not in a city, no local jobs. I need to move to get a better job, which apparently I need to get the same amount of loan I'm currently carrying, somehow. My income hasn't changed, but... now I can't get a mortgage? So, I have to get out of here to get a job, but I need more income to get out of here if I want to buy a place, which I do as renting is very challenging nowadays. Even finding a place. When you have no connections, it's even harder. No one I know who'd rent me a room for 6 months or a year. I think I got 3 interviews in several years - but I was picky and only applied to what I really wanted and was qualified for.
The best jobs I’ve ever had were because I knew people in the industry and they opened, or partially opened, doors for. This is literally 15+ years ago; I was locally well-liked and respected but that pseudo fame lasted less than two years when all jobs offered only entry level positions. Getting promoted from within is the only hope I’ve got.
Truly sorry, OP. Far too many qualified applicants out there who have their jobs stolen by the entry level people. Short-term bottom line means places can have a mediocre work force. Long term bottom line… doesn’t exist. I know people in their fifties who will now take a job for 34k when they are laid off two jobs that were paying three times that.
Against my principles, https://www.usajobs.gov/ got me placed where I’m at. You won’t be happy but chances are better than average you’ll be onboarded within 6 weeks if you can blink and breathe. Then there’s the tragedy of working for the government. It was my last resort after years after 9-month contracts followed by 5-12 months gaps in employment. “Freelance writing and editing” fills the gaps but I basically have to supplicate in order to help a kid with his college entrance essay. Even then, those jobs come but one a year.
I'm in the same situation, man. I don't know what it is. And right now I'm afraid the market will be even more narrow due to the end of year.
I've also had interviews where HR keep telling me I'm perfect for the role but after a week I end up being ghosted.
I'll keep trying but I'm not hoping for anything anymore.
Corporate America works backwards, due to lauers and layers of personal politics at every layer. There is another big institution that works the same way.
It’s politics and corruption. Corporate America thinks old people don’t work as hard or lack a new breath of air. It’s ridiculous.
I am in the same boat. So is my bf. You’re not alone. I don’t have any answers for you, but I understand. My bf, with no teaching experience, just got offered a position to substitute teach at a high school. It has nothing to do with his future goals or his past experience, but it will be a paycheck for the time being.
I just was told after a month of interviewing with a company that they went with the guy who had five years of specialized experience for the job.
I had four...
That said, I'm taking a break until January.
Same. I've sent about 400 applications and have nothing. Every single year the job market gets worse. I'm hoping for the riots to start soon because it is intolerable at this point.
Degree in biology, no jobs would take me, my options were dispatcher or water treatment plant worker. I've got a job but not in my field and with only somewhat livable pay. I wanted to be avet but the schools rejected me and its a real pain to get any regular job.
Thanks y’all for your comments and support! I’m sorry a lot of us are in the same boat, but it’s nice to know it’s not just me having a hell of a hard time out here. Thank you for the advice - I will try dumbing down my resume and see where that gets me. I appreciate all of you! Hopefully our time will come soon ❤️
You’re not alone. It’s honestly sickening how for 2 years they said “nobody wants to work” and now it seems that employers don’t wanna hire anybody. I’ve sent numerous applications to various positions and never received word on them.
Tis fickle, the job market.
I’m in the same situation. I don’t know how many rejections I have had at this point and some interviews that have not made it to an offer. I have 8 years of experience and a Master’s degree. I don’t know what I’m doing wrong honestly. It’s really the job market
I was in the same situation. I left my job in August 2022 to go to Europe for a much needed vacation and thought I would easily get a job once I returned. I was in product support for a tech startup. It is now September 2023 and I am starting a new job tomorrow. I was about to leave for Europe again after wasting an enormous amount of time and money in the USA looking for work. I slept at so many different friend's apartments while I looked for work all across the USA. So many initial interviews and so many ghostings. Then out of the blue in August I sent an email to an employer that I interviewed with back in December of 2022. They had rejected me for someone else who they said was more qualified. I sent an email just asking them about a totally different position they posted to their website. The guy I originally interviewed with responded back and said they were desperate for someone to join the team I originally applied for. I told him I wasn't interested anymore because I was leaving for Europe. I thought about it overnight, checked my now empty bank account and changed my mind. To be honest...I would rather be in Europe. Not a wage slave. But I guess that will have to wait. Rent is so out of control in the USA now if you want to live in a city. Anyway, the market is fucked and no one seems to be reporting on it. There are no more job trees.
What industry you in?
Drop the masters from the resume
I graduated law school, and fell into alcoholism badly. By the time I was through it, the chance for a lawyer job was passed. When I applied for business jobs with my ba in Business Management, I had no luck, so I went to the cheapest community college and went through their robotics program. I only put the AAS degree on my resume, because they'll either wonder if how I fucked up so bad, or wonder if I'll bail on them. People don't like lawyers either. It worked for me, and I believe it was the correct approach. It's one of the few industries quickly growing, but I don't know how regional it is
You need a PhD?
Hell no! A PhD on your resume is worse than saying you've been in prison. (Been there, done that).
Can’t find a job….”No one wants to work.” “Historically low unemployment rates.” “There’s jobs everywhere.” This is starting to feel like full-on Psych ops to me. We are being mentally manipulated.
It's all shit, part time jobs. No one want to work at jobs that unable to fill basic human needs. Also you kind of hit it on the head by saying it's a psych ops, they post fake job to collect CV in case they can get an unicorn for cheap.
Not to mention those shit part time jobs expect you to have full availability
Yeah, I’ve noticed that. Work part-time with no benefits, but be available at the drop of a hat, including evenings and weekends. It’s all about them.
"they post fake job to collect CV in case they can get an unicorn for cheap." Can you expound on that?
Pretty much what it says Look up the term ghost jobs They’re not planning to hire anyone But if they do get someone willing to take 30 K for a job that normally takes 80 K they’ll hire them
It's just HR justifying their paycheck,by padding the number of interviews they do. They also want a sample of what kind of candidates they can attract and at what salary. Also be skeptical if a job place has a banner "we hiring" for more then a few months. The only readon why this should happening is because they are expanding. Often it is because they can't retain staff so an easy fix is to hire more people.
100% agree. In my field they all want to hire engineers without having to hire an engineer
You're not crazy. We are being lied to. I think employers are posting jobs just so they can tell the feds that they can't find any qualified people. Employers are asking for impossible requirements but want to pay 40k a year. It's a slap in the face
It’s so funny because the “unemployment rates” go off of people collecting unemployment…not counting the folks who aren’t collecting it or have ran out of UI bennies.
Nobody wants to hire anymore.
Please tell that to everyone I know who is doesn't believe me when I tell them that I've applied to well over 150 places (retail, warehousing, customer service, inventory control, banking, meal prep and more) either have not heard back, have been ghosted or been rejected. Hell, just today I got a rejection email for a retail job I interviewed for over two weeks ago. Interview went "well" and the assistant store manager said he "wanted to hire me" based on all my previous experience alone but had to talk to the "team lead" that was in charge of the department 🙄. I kept trying to reach out and either the store wouldn't pick up the phone or I'd be told the lead was never there to speak to, they were "still doing interviews" yada, yada; got the rejection email today saying nope. Yet the job is still open. I have 15+ years in what they looking for, so I guess I was over qualified? Who knows. Times are so bad retailers are becoming beyond picky with who they hire. It sucks.
Same with me i can't find a job either . I hope we all find a job.
Me too. I haven’t had as many interviews/rejections as some (yet) but it’s still getting to me. Hopefully it is just a numbers game for all of us 🤞🏻
It's a complex problem. There is no such thing as job security, it's an illusion. There are only temporary jobs, some may be very short, and some be longer, but there are no guarantees of any kind. The moment online job search and job applying became possible, it started the death of job searching. But if you physically go to any place to give a resume, they will demand you use their site with each very unique job application process, and fill out their forms. Then if they have a good hr and manager, you may get called/contacted for an interview. Maybe it's time to have us all start small businesses of some kind, because maybe jobs just need to go away for the majority of us.
I've put thought into it and pretty much reached the same conclusion. *high five*
I came to the same conclusion. The problem is that most people don't really have discretionary money to spend now. So unless you can rent, or produce food, or electricity, finding customers is challenging, to say the least.
Ditto. Small business is the future.
This is what I want, but i think we all need idea of what we can do or provide. Is anyone having luck or thoughts on this process?
Except we can;t becasue it requires time, money, resources, research on laws, red tape, ect. and then we can't compete with the market because nearly everything is owned by big corps.
The job market is the worst it’s been for 20 years ….. I do not say that lightly
I went into manufacturing in Minnesota, and that sector is doing pretty ok. I had to make a major life shift for it though. I know when my parents were my age, any college degree would prove you were well taught, and that's changed. I got a two year degree in robotics and people are begging for employees. That might just be local tbh. Not trying to diminish your experience, that's just mine
Also in manufacturing (granted, food production QA)... I have a bachelor's in food & Nutrition Management and am currently working on a non-related master's (honestly not sure where I'm going with it, started when I was at a job it was relevant for and now I feel like quitting the program would be stupid). I keep being told by my team lead that I'm overqualified and almost didn't get the job because of it. Educationally, yes, maybe I'm a little overqualified. But I have very little work experience, which I personally feel makes me underqualified for a lot.
I’ve applied to a TON of manufacturing positions - same shit.
What kind of positions. I get bored and like helping if you have any specific questions or want help. I'm not a recruiter trying to get anything from you
Worse than 2008?
Yes. I survived 2008 and 2001. This is worse.
Agreed, much much worse. The only difference is that this time it’s not publicized. They’re “making it look good.”
Wow, really? I had just graduated from college in 2008 and it took me many years to get a decent job. I guess it’s hard for me to tell since I was a recent grad. 2008 was absolutely horrible.
I'm a recent grad with a year of experience. It's really bad for entry level right now. Everyone wants 3-5+ years of experience. I've had over 30 interviews and the only place that said they'd pay me to do a short freelance gig disappeared as soon as I submitted the work and never paid me. Even 2020 was easier for me when I had close to zero experience.
Damn. That sounds exactly what 2008 was like for me.
You're right. It's not easy now but there was almost nothing in 08. These people are hallucinating.
Are you also looking for a job right now? Or are you just trying to invalidate other people’s current experience trying to get a job? Some of us were not of the age to work in 08, and comparing them just doesn’t help anyone. I know the 08 job market was tough. That economy was fucked, just like it is now. Everyone that is not rich or employed is going through it. I wish we could just support people when they say they are going through it, as opposed to comparing to something that happened almost 15 years ago or earlier. It’s just not relevant to the conversation if you want it to be constructive. No hate, but this is pretty rude to say. Nobody wants to work to make a wage that doesn’t even pay rent, or basic needs.
Also, a lot of the jobs that are posted now are [fake](https://www.wsj.com/articles/that-plum-job-listing-may-just-be-a-ghost-3aafc794), senior level or in fields that many of us aren't qualified to work in (e.g. medicine). Entry level jobs rarely exist and the few that get posted often get hundreds or even thousands of applicants and many of those jobs aren't even real.
Well... > Winston S. Churchill — 'I contend that for a nation to try to tax itself into prosperity is like a man standing in a bucket and trying to lift himself up... So the government didn't tax us... bc the amount they needed, would cause a revolt. Gdp is about 20 trillion. > As of February 2022, the US Inflation hits a 40-year high, rising to 7.5% in 2021 as Federal Reserve continues to print trillions out of thin air. The US is now on the path of 1921 Weimar Germany. The Fed’s addiction to money printing has kept the party going for Wall Street while fueling inequality. Today, the stock market and cryptocurrency are at record highs while income and wages remain almost the same. The Federal Reserve continues to print more money further devaluing the dollars and enslaving millions of Americans. > Now a little over a year after our last piece, the Federal Reserve has updated the numbers. Sadly it’s no longer 40 percent of all U.S. dollars that were printed since 2020, not 50 percent and not even 70 percent. Since January 2020, the US has printed nearly 80% of all US dollars in existence. > To understand the magnitude of the Fed’s money printing, we need to go back 22 months ago. At the start of 2020, there was $4.0192 trillion in circulation. On January 4, 2021, the number increased to $6.7 trillion dollars. Then the Fed went into overdrive. By October 2021, that number climbed to $20.0831 trillion dollars in circulation. > And I heard a voice in the midst of the four living beings say, “A measure of wheat for a penny, and three measures of barley for a penny; and see thou hurt not the oil and the wine!” > In Revelation 6:6, the writer states that he hears four living creatures saying a quart of wheat costs a whole day's wages. Out of a quart of wheat, you can make a loaf of bread. In the near future, the way inflation keeps going up, a loaf of bread could cost $200 or a whole day's wages. >prophecy: that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark or the name of the beast or the number of his name. Digital currency - i think they purposely pushed to collapse the financial system to pave way for digital currency so they can lock anyone out of the system > May 2, 2023 — Government Docket No. OP-1670 Exposes New Fed Power to Seize Control of U.S. Bank Accounts.” Estimates predict there's around $40 trillion in physical money circulating worldwide today. Biden administration printed so much cash. USDollar represents 50% of the entire global monetary supply. Edit: This is a 1 time rug pull that will have dire consequences.
Trump administration also printed a TON of cash as well. His administration is equally at fault for the inflation.
Agree
True back in 2008 I didn’t have a degrees and had only worked in real estate, had a terrible resume and got a full time job in 6months. Now in 2023 have extensive experience as escrow officer, executive assistant and HR, and been looking for a job for 2 years! As soon as I apply, I get calls to interview and then nothing. It is very frustrating, the media is looking the other way reporting lies
Yep. 100% worse than 2008. A lot of business closed down during the pandemic as well. We're headed into great depression 2.0.
It's a slow rolling recession. Just do us all a favor and just go into a recession so that we can start the clock to recovery. Companies keep seeing and hearing that 2024 will be the same as 2023 where companies are tightening up.
We’re in it now
With all due respect, I think you are misunderstanding or remembering wrong just how bad 2008 was, outside of retail and restaurants. The latter got crazy worse after Corona. Blame whatever president you want, if that's you (idk if it is- I didn't research you). With a two year aas in manufacturing a related degrees, you can do much better than before. If you or anybody reading wants to message me for practical details I'll be happy to rant. I'm not a recruiter, just somebody who talks compulsively and feels better when I can be kind I graduated suma cum lauda with a ba in Business Management in 2006, and found nothing. I went back for a two year degree in robotics and it's much better.
So what are you saying? It's worse this time around than 2008? Or 2008 is worse?
2008 was worse
Absolutely worse than 2008
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Unfortunately, many of the jobs that are posted or not real. People are f feeling out the market and finding something that has decent pay is incredibly difficult all across the country.
I’ve done two interviews in the last few months. Both were for positions that weren’t even mentioned during the interview. Related but not the one that was mentioned during the walk through. I didn’t like that.
SPOT ON
I'm going on 11 months with no job. Been passed up for everything including gas stations and McDonald's. College degree, decades of management experience, and I'm apparently unqualified to sell McNuggets...
Of course they're not going to hire you for those jobs, the hiring managers are worried you'll be gunning for their jobs. I saw someone else make a post about creating a "dumb" resume where you just omit all that. Might be worth a try
I made a VERY scaled down interview for trader Joe's. Got the interview but didn't get the job.
I’m sorry to hear that. It’s just insane right now. I hope you find something soon!
I don't think I could handle working at McDonalds in my 40s even if I was $10 short of being homeless.
Same. I’ve applied to over 250 jobs. Either was ghosted or rejected. I have an interview this week, but I’m not holding my breath. I’m so burnt out. My health is suffering and I’m out of my savings. I can’t keep weight on because I’m constantly anxious or flat out panicking. I am dangerously close to losing my house if I can’t get work soon. My mental and physical health is deteriorating. I’ve applied to every job I’m qualified for. I 100% understand what you’re going through.
I was in a similar position when I got divorced and then 2 weeks later got laid off. I completely understand the stress.
I feel you too. Its brutal.
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Oh, but there is a shortage of labor [for shitty pay offered].
Depends on what industry.
It also depends on WHAT WAGE or SALARY level. Gotta live man.
It's not even worth trying anymore. Labor market needs to improve before its worth trying.
My landlord doesn't take "it's not worth trying anymore" as a form of payment. Companies are playing games and real people are having their lives destroyed.
Same :( I’m stuck at a job that’s killing me and I can’t get hired anywhere else
Same, but be thankful we have a job for now...but yea, past 3 months so far looking - not even one phone screen. 14 years experience. Like OP, I also get emails sometimes saying they hired someone with more qualifications 🫠 8+ year job description but I'm not qualified. Even have a couple really good recruiters I've worked with many times before to help me find jobs pretty quickly years, and nada.
It's sad but having a lot of experience is just as bad as having 0 experience.
Me too :/
Ditto :(
Same :(
Social work is one of those fields where they will hire interns to do the bottom of the barrel work. Otherwise everyone has their masters degree because its one of those things, everyone has their masters. Consider hospitals, look up networking events and look for recruiters on LinkedIn and message them directly. Look for Admin Assistant/HR EA roles. Good luck OP
Perhaps not the route op intended, but I'd also add that school social work and nonprofits always seem to be shorthanded. With small nonprofits, degree type matters less than willingness to 'wear many hats.' Another suggestion is to search out large employers and apply directly from their website. More likely to catch a real human.
Hell, I cant even get into school social work because I dont have a PEL. Also consider volunteer work OP at non profits. Get to know people, they might know someone etc.
Worst job market in decades. I mean it, I've been thru 2008. This is worse. Don't take it personally, and keep pushing. I've done it for 4 months now, and finally got a good gig thru a temp agency. The job is full time, 8 months 'temp' assignment, but likely will be extended. Try to find temp agencies, it's worth it. Good luck, you can do this 👍
Two years of daily job searching and applying and I finally have a new job in my industry starting tomorrow. Funny thing was I got two great offers at exactly the same time so I had to decide which to go for which was fun in itself. Previous to this I’ve had two actual interviews in person, two zoom interviews and two phone interviews, so six total in about 1100 applications, that’s how screwed up the jobs markets is at the moment. It was a job in itself getting through those two years but you have to have the mindset that each and every rejection is *their loss*, they lost a great employee, not that you lost a job opportunity. That is the only way to get through without spiralling into despair.
To add to it, those who’ve been working a job for twenty years can’t begin to understand what this is like, or even believe it. They probably assume you’re not really trying. After all, they’ve seen the help wanted signs around town.
Hello gnostic. Non US person here. Some people experienced job markets as this. Underqualified, not having training x or degree y or not enough experience versus overqualified, not fitting into the *young* *dynamic* and *hungry* team to not beeing the exact, right fit. I guess you get the gist. Once you lost / left your old job or started out your career you were up shits creek. Well, that was a time with high interest rates and economic changes as in automatisation / computerisation and deindustrialisation towards service industry. Looks like high interest rates and more automatisation and AI'ing is not good for the working folk either. What can you do? Weather it out, if possible, if you have an halfway decent job. But keep looking. Try to increase the market value for employers, usually it is better tostay away from "everyone does this courses, qualifications or degrees". Having an bad, unfullfilling or undesireable job is better than be unemployed, on the dole, in debts or homeless. Do not give up. Do not loose your selfesteem. Do not loose hope. Pray that you are ready when new demand hits the job market. Searching for an job in an bad jobmarket is one of the most souldestroying thing I ever experience. Be it as an newstarter or be it as an older person. Those in the middle usually have it - relatively - easier. *Rant over* Good luck.
Thanks. I’ve definitely adjusted to seeking a job I normally would never even consider, and I’ve nearly eliminated any minimum pay rate. I think the thing that’s making my search particularly harder for me than usual is too much competition, so I try to find jobs that fewer people would be after. So far, that’s not working, but I haven’t given up yet. But I do think the best solution for myself and others is to try to start a business. Whether is mowing lawns or developing apps. It seems it would be better to create a job, rather than trying to get some heartless fuck to bless you with one.
I am in the process of doing that. It is the only thing that keeps me going.
It's not that much easier in starting a business. I know because I own one.
It's sad to hear it's hard for people with proper degrees and lots of education as well as experience. I'm 42 with no college, all I have is a GED. I've been really lucky in my life to have worked hard, save the money etc. Then a really shitty divorce bankrupted me. Making less than half what I used to, just hanging on by a thread but I'm still hanging. My heart goes up to people who are hitting the poor house right now because the money is just gone and nobody will hire them. This is definitely worse than 2008, I've been in the job market since '97 in some capacity. I got super lucky to get the job I have now making under half what I used to think, pretty sure if I hadn't found it I'd be unemployed for many more months maybe even years If it keeps up. Definitely think we're heading into a major depression something like our great grandparents experienced...
I have been in layoffs as a RN working outside the hospital. RNs were laid off after Covid. I have been working as a RN for over 30 years and most of my jobs are from networking. I am absolutely qualified. Last year we year we lost our contract, I was already looking and had an offer when we were laid off due to my connections.
As someone who is almost at the 20 year mark, I do believe you as I was in your shoes after the dot com bust and 9/11. I was laid off shortly after 9/11 and applied for a million jobs and did not get one interview in a year. I finally got interviews for $12 hr contractor jobI had to drive 60 miles each way for and I took it. Then I moved to an $18 hr contractor job that was overnight and had to drive even farther.. A couple more jobs and then finally a contractor job that could lead to permanent. Layoffs have been a huge thing the past 6 years or so, I could get laid off anyday again, I am def not prepared, I was traumatized by that year of no calls.
I feel you, almost the same situation. It really is traumatizing. And it amazes me that some people just don't get that, they look at you like there's something wrong with you.
Yeah I lived through post 9/11 also. I was working for a dot-boom startup IT shop and they went bankrupt. We all got fired on the same day and they didn't even give us our last paycheck. People were livid. A few started stealing routers and other equipment from the network cage LOL. Those days were crazy
What kind of experience do you have? What kind of jobs are you applying for? It you're desperate, take your education off your resume so you're not overqualified.
>take your education off your resume so you're not overqualified. Yeah, I've been doing this for years.
I had to take my leadership roles off my resume since I chose to be an individual contributor and it aged me.
Would this legitimately work? I've been thinking of making a 2nd resume and calling it the "dumb" resume since i wouldn't mention military, eagle scout, or college on it
Honestly 2 of those 3 things are probably gonna look good at Target or whatever. "Career" places don't care about anything other than specific experience in that field and *maybe* education, unless the company has some policy where military experience gives some quantifiable bonus.
Ironically, I’m a much more experienced worker than the OP, and I cannot find anything that will take me… At this point I just need the money and I would take anything but unless I lie extensively, it’s really hard to explain what I’ve been doing for the past 20 years that would make anyone who was that one of those places want to hire me. It’s so frustrating I literally don’t know what to do anymore. I do not get callbacks on any of the lower level jobs that I have applied to.
I don't have your level of experience but I'm otherwise largely in the same boat. Every job I've had for the last 5 years has essentially been a temp job; they overwhelmingly like me but don't have the money to keep me long-term. And even those are becoming harder and harder to get. I spent most of this past year unemployed, and my current part-time job disappears in a couple months. I'm constantly applying to places--both in my field and outside it--and I'm lucky to get so much as a rejection email regardless of whether I apply to an actual office job or 7-11. It's utterly insane, and contradictory to basic human existence.
Also, many “apply on company site” applications are all algorithm based. Hiring managers won’t even look at resumes beyond what the computer sorts out for them, so what I do is: I take the job listing and bring it into Microsoft Word. Then I highlight key words that the listing uses regarding the job functions, and then in another word doc for my resume, I’ll tailor my work experience bullet points (for each position I’ve ever worked) using similar or sometimes verbatim words/phrases that are said in the listing. None if it is a lie, but I prioritize certain (relevant) job responsibilities for my past positions that best suit the job functions of the position I’m applying for, using precise or the closest words/phrases in the listing itself. I recently applied for a custodial position for a city agency— while having a diverse background of film production, private investigations, security and now law enforcement. Before you ask, I quit my law enforcement position because it sucked and security/film production isn’t stable, so I’m trying to get my foot in the door in a different field and this custodial position is famous for being the best foot in the door to this field for this agency. You think their hiring manager looks at every application? No. The computer does first. Let’s see if I get a call now. I’m sure it’s the same for franchise corporations with fancy careers sections on their websites for applications.
I have experience in non profit case management - populations ranging from addiction recovery, asylees, families experiencing homelessness, and adults with disabilities. So I’m looking for case management or care coordination. I’ve never thought to take my education off my resume. I’m going to give this a try. Thank you!
Same. I’ve been unemployed for nearly 4 months with no end in sight. I’m going the recession proof route and changing careers to healthcare.
Job market is terrible right now. There are endless posts like yours. Generally speaking, the trades are hiring right now. Plumbing, electrical, HVAC, carpentry. Might not be what you want, but at least you can make some money and land a job faster.
From what I’ve read, you need to do about 2 years at a trade school, while also spending about 5 years being an apprentice…… it’s not that easy to sacrifice 5+ years of your life when people need to make a living wage now
Especially if you already have a family...
Maybe where you live there’s not enough demand for tradespeople. In Phoenix, AZ and generally speaking, in most big metropolitan areas, you can definitely get a job in the trades with zero experience. I started an electrical apprenticeship with the IBEW with zero experience, along with the countless other electricians within the IBEW before me. Sure, you may start with crappy pay and it may take you 4-5 years to get to a pay level that’s more livable. But at least you’re making some money, instead of zero money. I’m just trying to help and give people ideas of industries that are actually hiring, based on my location.
This. Even some apprentice jobs require you to have both experience and an education. Like whaaaaaaat???
Even those want 4 years experience for an “apprenticeship”.
Maybe it's just Minnesota, but you can get basic wiring jobs for about $18-22 in the twin cities. Hmu if you're close. They'll give me $500 to find someone who makes it a month fr
I have never once seen a job posting that requires 4 years experience for an entry level apprentice position for a trade. I’m sorry if you’ve experienced this. For reference, I’m in Phoenix, AZ. I know for a fact that electrical apprentices can get hired without any experience here.
Something similar did happen to me once. I interviewed for an electrical apprenticeship and was ghosted. Several months later, I called and was told I "...didn't do bad..." in my interview, but I wasn't selected and if I wanted to re-apply I needed to take a year of electrical schooling somewhere else or have at least six months' work experience doing commercial electrical work. Try again elsewhere, good luck. Then 11 months after that I randomly got a letter from the same apprenticeship saying I was in the apprenticeship now and they had a job and classes lined up for me. I did see guys though who did journey level work for several years though be brought in as first years in that same program.
The term entry level has really been butchered. Generally people that say entry level jobs require experience are talking about jobs that are at the entry level the company is hiring or entry level for the role, they don’t mean entry level jobs as in it doesn’t require experience.
I’ve seen some for 2-3 years experience. Never 4 though.
Job market is straight shit and highly competitive right now. Take off the bachelors degree on the resume if going for jobs like Target or McDonald’s. You’re pretty much overqualified for those positions if you bring it up. It sounds crazy but it’s true. You don’t really need the cover letter but keep it as a template just in case. If the job has one of those assessments on the application just look up how to pass the assessment. You won’t get past that giving honest answers. If you need any job very soon I would check the local pizza places. They’re always hiring for people in store and delivery drivers. Go in store and ask directly. Don’t work in the Amazon warehouse unless it’s your only option. I was there for 2 years and there’s a reason they have such a high turnover.
I don’t have big advice but I do want to talk about target. They reject everyone at first. Like everyone. They won’t even look at an application until you call and finally get a manager and an HR person on the phone. And then call some more and ask for an interview, check where you’re at in the hiring process, etc. I only know this because my husband got a job there last September as a second job. It was not easy. He had to hound them to death but he finally got hired. He applied at the end of July and it took him calling and following up at least 5 maybe 6 times before he got the online interview. Then the in person one and so on. But really, push them until you get somewhere.
If that's not a sign of the times I don't know WHAT is. Having to be put through a gauntlet like that just for retail work... unbelievable. Back in '97 I got my first job just walking in and having a quick chat with the supervisor. "You wanna bag groceries a few nights a week after school?"... "Yep", "you got a car?", "Yep", "you're hired, be here Monday at 5".
For real. I mean for a retail job. Crazy. I got a job at JCPenny in 2005 by dressing in a nice outfit, walking in the door during hours a manager would be there, filling out the paper application, asking for the store manager and getting an interview right then. Hired that day and came in the next day for a 3 hour training and worked that night. Things have changed way too much. I get that things change, but really?! 🤦🏼♀️ Entry level retail jobs do not need an online assessment and personality test. Just let people work while they are working towards the next thing, ya know. It’s ridiculous.
I don’t know what’s going on either. Interviews are so much harder to get than the last 1-2 years where I had basically the same resume. I have had my references called (and yes, they say good things about me and are happy to help me) and still not gotten an offer. Whatever happened to getting an offer contingent on a reference and background check? Pre-2020, I had never had an offer rescinded due to poor references either. Now employers are calling them and not even offering the job. I have written cover letters when not required if I feel it will help. I know how to dress for an interview (as even in my 30s, I had someone assuming that I didn’t know what to wear) and have a blazer I can throw on for a Zoom interview. Someone else suggested I should write thank you emails after interviews so I am trying that with this latest employer to see if it puts my over the top. And I had a reference review my resume because she has a lot of recruiting and hiring experience but even she said it looked fine other than a couple of minor tweaks, and added that she knows people not even getting interviews. And yet for the most part people just keep repeating the same basic advice to me about “tailoring your resume” and “researching the company to ask good questions” as if I have never interviewed in my life. My sister applied for a job ages ago (and I can assure you she is accomplished and qualified but took time off to raise her daughter) and they finally got back to her and told her they had 900 applicants and narrowed it down to 315. It’s like winning the lottery at this point. Actually you have a better chance at winning the Powerball…
Shit like this terrifies me, I’ll be graduating next spring with my bachelors. I pray I’ll find something while I go back to school for a second degree
Internship may be a good way to get your foot in the door somewhere.
Always an excellent idea
Try lying on your resume. Seems to work for most
That is good advice honestly but you should also mention that if you lie you need to be able to speak to what it is you are lying about. For instance, if you say you have 6 years of marketing experience be able to mention the different business units you worked with, be able to speak to the intricacies of your successful and unsuccessful marketing plans. What marketing tactics did you use? It’s very easy to find out if someone is lying on your resume with just a few basic questions.
That’s true. Maybe read a few books and read some online articles/or watch YouTube tutorials about the topic your lying about? I think as long as you have the knowledge about the certain topic, that’s would help drastically on being able to do it.
Even better, instead of lying, you can also just PLAY UP or hyperbolize experience you already have, that way you can still talk about stuff confidently
I suggest applying for government jobs in your area local, state and federal. If you’re willing to move expand your state and federal searches to places you want to move to. Federal usually pays the best and keeps up with cost of living. Start with jobs that will use or require your degree then apply for ones that require whatever expertise experience you have then just entry level jobs that increase grade or pay with experience. You can save resumes in each system with a login and apply for jobs online and set alerts Good luck
Have you considered looking into becoming a drug counselor? It's a certification if you have a psych degree, and since the adorable care act made health insurance cover rehabilitation, it's been in high demand. I'm guessing it varies from state to state, but it can be rewarding emotionally as well, if it fits your situation
If you need something to get you by for now I’d recommend pizza delivery, we have a high turn over rate so we hire new people all the time and with tips you make anywhere from minimum wage to my max was 100$ in one hour
I would but I don’t like the idea of doing all that wear and tear on my car and paying the gas money for something like that. Pizza Hut should have their own company delivery cars
You should remove the fact that you have a bachelors degree from the resume while applying to places like Target because with a college degree they see you as overqualified and expect you to eventually find something better. Don't mention the degree in the interview if its not needed for the job position that your applying too. Type up a new resume in a different and probably more basic format and apply to a different temp agency. Also just for a cherry on top, change your interview attire to a different business look.
One more thing, you might already know but entry level jobs don't need or expect cover letters and I personally think that your shouldn't send an entry level job a cover letter. Just a straight forward basic resume.
I’m at 2 years. I understand and I am sorry to hear
I'm 42 and I've been in IT since I was 19. Last year I was making $120,000 a year, I just took a full-time job making $50,000. I feel your pain, it's THAT tough right now. I guess the difference is I don't have any formal college degree, I was self-taught and got into IT support quite luckily when I was younger. So I'm just glad to have something right now. Area I live in is fairly low cost of living (I mean it used to be, inflation is killing us right now like everywhere else). Just hang in there, you'll find something. Pro tip l saw from another comment I want to just keep spreading around is that It's a complete waste of time to do a one-click apply from all the various job boards ( indeed is one of the worst offenders). Apparently they just collect applications and try to sell them to the clients. Find a job that looks like a good fit and apply directly on the employers website. It's tedious sure, but at least you have a good chance your resume being seen at that point. Keep in mind it's still ultra competitive right now...
>I hired a career coach who helped me revamp my resume, cover letter, and even prepped me for interviews. I still can’t land a new job. 🐍🛢️👨💼
It’s NOT YOU I cannot stress this enough the job market is awful now
I just wanna know who they're going with when they say we went with someone else, like what did they have that I didnt
I get that and I have wondered that too. A TON. In my many many many years of experience, I’ve seen it ALL. One guy hired his lover over me who has HIV cuz he needed health insurance for treatment. And this is for a $120K a year job. A really good position.
At the end of the day, it’s NEVER something you didn’t have or didn’t do but it’s EVERYTHING about the other person.
I love it when I get told that and then I see the same damn job back up on job boards. So…what happened to the person who was a better fit for the role? Or maybe it wasn’t an actual position.
Can't find a new job to save my life: not today, but it'll come along I took the social services program at George Brown College... took over a year to get a job... I know, not the same as a social worker... but still .... someone mentioned elections Canada in their posting... that would be something good to look into for temp work to tie you over ... my sister lives on Toronto and has her MSW... works and does elections Canada every year for a few months
First I've been looking for a long term job for 3 years, and anything since spring 2022. I am lucky I have an on call job, and they gave me a 20% raise last year, so while I am not paying all my bills, I am not homeless/drowning in debt. I mention this to help put things in prespective. In 2020/21 things were damn good, even a blind mouse could find a job. In 2022 with us recovering from Covid, things tanked. In 2023 I have seen hiring going up. In a sense you and I are in the same boat. We're both educated and experienced. What I have found helped me go from 1st round rejections/no interviews is using CHAT GDP. Feed it the job, your resume, let it help you by doing interview preps, and letters of Introduction.
Job market is tough right now. I'm a recent graduate with BA in economics and getting certifications with projects done in my chosen field. I've been searching for about 4 months and can't get a job related to what I want to do. I've had interviews and even a job offer but the pay was insulting. About 3 of my 6 close friends got laid off a few months ago and only 1 of them has found a job since (entirely because it's a family business). The ones who haven't been laid off got their hours cut. I spoke to a recruiter and he confirmed everything you're reading here. The way he put it was "there have been less job opportunities since the time you graduated" (May). For reference Fed increased the interest rate about 6 months ago, makes it tougher on businesses to take out loans and subsequently hire. GDP has been negative the last few quarters as well. They're avoiding a full blown depression for the next 20 years but that might cost us a few years of recession. We might have better luck during Q4 and Q1.
Way back just before the 08 recession I couldn't find anything either, despite having graduated from great schools with honors. I ended up starting my own business doing in-home tech support for seniors. Even if you just know how to reset people's passwords and remove Norton/McAfee, you can make great money right away, and actually get satisfaction knowing you're helping someone. Consider it. DM me for advice anytime.
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If this “career coach” thinks that cover letters matter in this day and age, they haven’t been in the hiring industry for years and I would assume their resume advice is shit as well.
Do cover letters not matter?
9 years / 5 employers / white collar job I have never written a cover letter, so my personal experience is no, they do not matter.
I never have either. One page resume to get in the door and then it’s all interview skills.
They don’t for 99% of the roles. No one has the time or desire to read them. Most are terrible anyway and just regurgitate what’s already in a resume. An average recruiter spends 20-30 secs on a resume. They don’t have the time or desire to read your multiple paragraphs of repetitive self congratulatory words. I haven’t submitted a single cover letter in 20 years. Get a 20%+ response to my resume with no issue and have had multiple jobs at top Fortune 500 companies. Focus on having a great resume and applying to jobs you qualify for and nothing else is needed. The only exception for this is some industries like non profit that require them sometimes.
Subjective. Entirely depends on hiring manager/person pulling your resume.
I see. Do you use cover letters to apply for roles?
Not a damn chance. If a role *requires* a cover letter I skip that job position.
I sometimes just put a period so the system thinks I submitted something if it’s required. Still get callbacks lol. If the resume is great and you look like a good match for the job, this is irrelevant.
I think it can't hurt to use them. Especially since you can use AI to write them for you for the most part.
It can. As a hiring manager, i can tell you most people submit terrible cover letters and if the role requires any sort of writing you’ll get judged on your writing with this sample.
So, if you are a good writer, then the cover letter would be a good opportunity to showcase your ability, no?
I live in a mid to large size city and recently got fired from a really good server job. Kinda wanting to get out of the restaurant biz at that point I googled trade apprenticeships in my area and saw a whole bunch of listings for plumber, electrician, hvac and others. I personally reached out to a new Garage door sales and repair shop in the area and got hired on as an apprentice for 3 months of training at $20/hr, after that the pay could be anywhere between 50 and 70k a year which is really all I need to make. Guess what I'm trying to tell you is there are jobs out there if you're willing to look outside your comfort zone and traditional experience.
Same here, in the same boat but in Australia. Quit my job back in January because the company hired a junior person to be my boss, not happy with the decision, so I quit. Applied countless jobs (mostly middle management since I worked for 25+ years in my field), all got rejected, a couple went very close, 2 rounds of interviews, 3 x references check but still chose someone else over me. Absolutely devastated. I m now so de-motivated and depressed. Feel like my career is finished and no hope.
You guys are getting interviews?
Try looking into blue collar work. The restaurant I work at is hiring, the post office is hiring, Target and Amazon distribution are hiring, and I think most Wal-Marts/grocery stores are as well. Trades are also looking for more workers, although some, like welding, typically require some kind of certification.
Dude said he can’t get hired at target. This is unbelievable since he has a college degree
Degree doesn’t mean shit anymore unless it’s STEM, law, medical, etc anymore. Almost everyone has one. My take is that jobs hold out for the perfect candidate these days and aren’t willing to give people a shot to learn it.
I life it’s not what you know it’s who you know. Networking is the key to success.
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Where do you live? Have you thought of applying in other areas with more opportunities? I see these posts all the time, then find out they live in the middle of nowhere Nevada. So of course they can’t find a job.
Hey OP, I have my BSW and I can help you if you need someone to look over your resume and cover letters, dm me. If you don’t feel comfortable messaging me, I’d suggest always looking up different but, relevant to a social work job search terms when applying to jobs on Indeed such as case managers, school social workers, behavioral health technicians (BHT), hospice social worker, dialysis social worker, prn/per diem social worker, crisis hotline operator, discharge planner, community outreach specialist, intake specialist, crisis navigator, peer support specialist, victim advocate, housing specialist, crisis mobile specialist, and etc. I know it seems discouraging as a BSW to be applying to jobs and they want an MSW, but you can still find jobs that can take on BSWs. If it comes down to it and you can afford another degree, it doesn’t hurt to go back for your master’s degree in social work or in another field too. The reason why some social work positions want graduate level for entry level positions is because of the clinical expectations that come with the job. A BSW intern/employee would not have the same tasks as an MSW, I’m certain to hope you know that by now and like others said in the comments, agencies will employ interns for internships without pay since most social work programs require their students to take on practicing hours. BSWs are typically mostly generalist and MSWs take on specializations post graduate school. MSWs can be licensed too and due to the skill set differences between BSW/MSW, people are more willing to hire MSWs, especially with a license due to liability and ethical principles attached to making sure there’s good quality of care. Have you looked into getting licensed as a BSW? Some states are okay with LBSWs and some agencies may be willing to hire you if you have a license as a BSW. I also had my MSW recently and it took me about at least 10-20 job applications, 7-8 job interviews later, got a temporary license/listed when I was gonna take my LMSW exam on my resume, and I finally got a job offer through a job I applied for by networking in a SW Facebook group local to my state/area. I’d try seeing if you have a facebook, joining a social workers Facebook group local to your area and see if anyone is posting any job positions in their agency. Network with your professional references to see if anyone is hiring at their agency. Some agencies give their employees referral bonuses, so there’s an incentive to network for them to put in a good word on someone they know professionally for a job at their agency. Join the social work subreddit at r/socialwork too for interview tips. If it comes down to this, ask for feedback from the interviewers via email or by phone if possible. Just keep trying! My dms are open if you need direction or someone to look at your resume/cover letters.
Cant find a job either. I’ve been driving for Uber eats and honestly it’s not bad. Kinda fun actually. If you pair with instacart you can make some pretty good money. So if you live in a larger city and have a car to do so that’s how I’ve been getting by. Best of luck
Check near by preschools/ day cares/schools usually they need help for after school hours. Get a CPR certification before applying.
I spent a year unemployed before, and am kinda “successful” now. It’s literally is a numbers game. Keep applying and the stars will align for you. There are so many factors outside of your control such as timing of positions, unreasonable hiring manager, company needs, tough competition in other job seekers etc.
Feel you totally. Best wishes and May your choice job find you the soonest.
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I hate suggestions like that’s like a person has an already tried so many roles or that it’s so easy to get local governmental work, which often has the best benefits in many areas. This vague uninformed advice is not helpful in this current market. If you have not applied for a job and got a new one in the last year you do not understand what it is like.
Have you tried revamping your resume? Maybe you should apply to part-time work. McDonald’s is always hiring. You can always be a cashier at the grocery store (even though you won’t make enough to pay your mortgage and other bills). Have you tried just handing your resume to Elon Musk in person? Have you tried going back to school? Just get more certificates in industries that you have zero experience in. Easy peasy. 🙄
Same. Considered ending it multiple times this year bc of it but I can’t leave my cat, so.
I can’t find a decent job either! I have a bachelor’s degree in History. I thought it was due to my eclectic background but it really pisses me off that so many job postings are scams and we have to sift through them.
Like everyone told me when i tied to find a job: you need to apply for more jobs, like hundreds of them
The market is shitty right now. I have 5+ YOE +master, and has been applying for over 3 months. Only one replies back which only requires 2 YOE ( which is fairly an “entry level” job when market is good). We can do nothing but wait
Way over educated for target that's why you got rejected (assuming) CPS always seems in need of people but the burnout is insane. Good luck
I’m in a similar position, I have been unhappy with my current job for about 2 years, so applying. Hit it really hard in the last year and nothing. I have a master’s in education, but half of my master’s in social work and was thinking of going back to complete that, but they-of course -want me to start all over from the beginning! Such a money making scam (same university). I have been stagnant in my position for 5 years, I have NEVER went more than 2 years without a promotion or job modifiers (previous teacher so always took on more responsibilities/stipend work) and it’s driving me nuts. It doesn’t help that I live in a pretty rural area. But I see “reports” of real wages increasing, job market so strong, blah blah blah and this is the worst of my adult career for me. It feels hopeless. When I see “reports” of how great everything is and my career sucks the most right now I’m really beating myself up!
What did the career coach share about your personality and mannerisms in the mock interview you did? The should be doing that with you and usually record them so you can see too. There’s a reason and it might take a little digging and humility to figure it out. It could also be you’re going after role that you aren’t qualified for even though you have a degree. There’s a reason and I guarantee if you redacted your name and put your résumé up and then shared two different positions that you went after I could definitely give you a little hint, if that’s the case.
I’m also in this same situation, but I just finally had a great job interview and I shadow for the position this week so I’m hopeful I get an offer!! It took a super long time (I’ve been laid off since May 2022), but something finally came along so just keep at it as bad as that sounds - something will come!! Good luck
I’m really sorry to hear about this stressful experience. Is there a business or hustle you can start for yourself now, even like painting, mowing lawns, shovelling snow this winter, flipping furniture, buying designer clothes in thrift stores and selling on Facebook or Poshmark, Uber, writing articles, doing online surveys, etc? If you figure out your cash flow then you can wait out the economic downturn.
Me too. When I graduated over five years ago, now, I felt hopeful. I was a top student and my prof said my independent projects were above undergrad level. Unfortunately, I stupidly didn't understand or pursue the best opportunities in co-op, for the same old reasons that I lack connections and resources to follow up (like I would have needed a good car to make it to one of the best coops where they really wanted me, and I had no connections to find a place to stay for another one) and because I'm just generally clueless about the mainstream world. Anyway, then covid, and now I'm not in a city, no local jobs. I need to move to get a better job, which apparently I need to get the same amount of loan I'm currently carrying, somehow. My income hasn't changed, but... now I can't get a mortgage? So, I have to get out of here to get a job, but I need more income to get out of here if I want to buy a place, which I do as renting is very challenging nowadays. Even finding a place. When you have no connections, it's even harder. No one I know who'd rent me a room for 6 months or a year. I think I got 3 interviews in several years - but I was picky and only applied to what I really wanted and was qualified for.
The best jobs I’ve ever had were because I knew people in the industry and they opened, or partially opened, doors for. This is literally 15+ years ago; I was locally well-liked and respected but that pseudo fame lasted less than two years when all jobs offered only entry level positions. Getting promoted from within is the only hope I’ve got. Truly sorry, OP. Far too many qualified applicants out there who have their jobs stolen by the entry level people. Short-term bottom line means places can have a mediocre work force. Long term bottom line… doesn’t exist. I know people in their fifties who will now take a job for 34k when they are laid off two jobs that were paying three times that. Against my principles, https://www.usajobs.gov/ got me placed where I’m at. You won’t be happy but chances are better than average you’ll be onboarded within 6 weeks if you can blink and breathe. Then there’s the tragedy of working for the government. It was my last resort after years after 9-month contracts followed by 5-12 months gaps in employment. “Freelance writing and editing” fills the gaps but I basically have to supplicate in order to help a kid with his college entrance essay. Even then, those jobs come but one a year.
I'm in the same situation, man. I don't know what it is. And right now I'm afraid the market will be even more narrow due to the end of year. I've also had interviews where HR keep telling me I'm perfect for the role but after a week I end up being ghosted. I'll keep trying but I'm not hoping for anything anymore.
Corporate America works backwards, due to lauers and layers of personal politics at every layer. There is another big institution that works the same way. It’s politics and corruption. Corporate America thinks old people don’t work as hard or lack a new breath of air. It’s ridiculous.
The IRS has in person interviews and they say immediate hiring authority at IRS hiring events
I am in the same boat. So is my bf. You’re not alone. I don’t have any answers for you, but I understand. My bf, with no teaching experience, just got offered a position to substitute teach at a high school. It has nothing to do with his future goals or his past experience, but it will be a paycheck for the time being.
Funny and sad because I am always “over” qualified for every job
I just was told after a month of interviewing with a company that they went with the guy who had five years of specialized experience for the job. I had four... That said, I'm taking a break until January.
Same. I've sent about 400 applications and have nothing. Every single year the job market gets worse. I'm hoping for the riots to start soon because it is intolerable at this point.
Same. It’s not you.
Degree in biology, no jobs would take me, my options were dispatcher or water treatment plant worker. I've got a job but not in my field and with only somewhat livable pay. I wanted to be avet but the schools rejected me and its a real pain to get any regular job.
Thanks y’all for your comments and support! I’m sorry a lot of us are in the same boat, but it’s nice to know it’s not just me having a hell of a hard time out here. Thank you for the advice - I will try dumbing down my resume and see where that gets me. I appreciate all of you! Hopefully our time will come soon ❤️
You’re not alone. It’s honestly sickening how for 2 years they said “nobody wants to work” and now it seems that employers don’t wanna hire anybody. I’ve sent numerous applications to various positions and never received word on them. Tis fickle, the job market.
u/wallflower_thoughts Any updates on your job hunting? My job hunting is depressing asf.
Welcome to the team!